One thing I've noticed about Hitchens: though he does repeat some points or themes from his book and from one presentation to another, he never does it as a rehearsed speech. The words are different every time and conversational. This is one highly evolved mammal!
This is the go-to guy when you think you've run out of arguments against religion! I have waited for so long for someone to take a stab at mother theresa, and Hitchens pulls it off so beautifully!
holy fuck he tears the idea of why religious people are charitable. only to spread their poisonous pathetic faith. like isLame. where they go around on dawah tours giving food to the poor and encouraging them that islame is the truthful religion.
To quote Nathanjameslewis (because I cant promote his post with the thumbs up): "Would love to watch this but I can't as the production is retarded and created by a fool who doesn't take this man seriously".
Hate to disagree with Mr.Hitchens but it was Czarist Russia,believe it or not,that helped the Colonialists the most because of the anger they had for the British Empire. And other countries as well when they saw the colonialists standing up to UK hegemony.
3 but I can not forgive any German that voted for Hitler and would still say that he also did good things like the conctruction of roads or the Volkswagen which means People'scar. So any religious believer is like a German that knows what horrible acts were carried out but still, keeps supporting that dictatorship..
.2 I can forgive the German population that voted for Hitler in the 1930's because they didn't think for themselfs and were not completly informed and used by someone, that might really have belieft that he was doing god's work,
Religion poisons everything because it does not let you think for your self and that can lead to a very narrow and dangerous perspective. Just go back 70 years and look at Germany
Wonderful speaker Mr.Hitchens is but ask him if he ever heard of the Trilateral Commission,the CFR or the Federal Reserve board and he would say "Who are they? Never heard of them ole chap."
I wouldn't say hitchens didn't know about the CFR and federal reserve but it pains me that someone with his knowledge doesn't know about the New World Order... :/
@kashif9595 New world order is somehow worse than (The old world order) .what difference does it make specifically to you ?
Do you think ,Order is preferable to chaos ?
I already know your answer to that ( so long as it is our order ) so all you need is for someone to explain ,inform the populous what to think ( Use the emotion state of the public to insight ) old story ! and fear is a powerful persuader .I can think this ,Ponders the question "Has someone else mastered it" ?
How does one get to this level of intelligence? Other than being born that way, you have to have practice. I will do my best, and with some luck, I hope to be as brilliant as he is, when I'm his age.
I cannot help you, for the journey is a lonely one. Only you can go on your journey. Only you can seek your Truth. So you see, none may help you, for it is not help that you need. It is acceptance. Accept the loneliness, and search the only place left: within. That is where the journey leads you. That is where to find your Truth. Accept that, and stop listening to me, for I cannot help you. None can
God is real. I am God. God wrote this. I am you. You are God. You wrote this. It is forever being written and read right NOW. The words are eternal and not subject to entropy. I use the Word of God (which is the word of Me/You) to express infinity through a finite vessel (which is my physical body). Your interpretation of these words eternal may infinitely vary, but the meaning is never truer than right NOW. "I am HERE and you are THERE", who else but you (God) could right that? awaken
@KarinMikazuki The vessel is "individual", but the being that is "wearing" it is "universal". You are wearing your own vessel, which you have used to write that comment, and ARE using to read this comment now.
@9innail I predict that, within the next 20 years, you will find yourself in prison for sexual harrassment, sexual coercion and rape. And since you will have done all this under the disguise of a cult leader, possibly minors will be involved.
I know all this because I am scandinavian and we're intuned with the cosmos, heaven, hell, nature and that god damned radiostation from Estonia somehow..
And since you and God and Me are the same, this is pretty much your own confession.
Religion will die soon, whereas christians, muslims and jewish will still stick to their beliefs the truth is that the lack of attachment to the core spirit that formed them is too far away. All christians, muslims and jewish sin and they keep believing that at some point their god will forgive them. Only religious people are capable of atrocities in the name of ther stupid beliefs. Their time is coming.
the religious wont stop until everyone who disagrees with them is dead. which is scary when you think how many religions there are.. religion is cultural, science is universal. science learns for the benefit of the human race, religion ignores for the sake of its believers
This is what I've been tlaking about, and have been getting little backing.
A person I know is becoming a priest, and her reason was that she wants to help people, she is a kind person and wants to help. Why does she need an exuse for her willingness to help people? She will go through 7 years of religious education to get a job with which she can help people. I would rather become a lawyer to help people, or a doctor. Priests give little true comfort to people, and a lot of false comfort.
Atheism may be a form of Aspergers Syndrome- an inability to comprehend complex ideas such as God. Atheism is a lie, atheism is the belief in...nothing. Something coming from nothing is delusional, illogical, irrational and impossible. Atheism is a lie.
Just watched this series again after first seeing it the first time 2 years ago. This clip, to me, really gets to the core of the issue and is simply Hitchens at his best. I cannot see how a theist can refute anything he has stated in this clip... it's pure rational and reasonable ownage.
It's going to be ultimately imossible for religion to stop it's effect on humans. Hitchens makes a point on this in some other bit of work when he says that in the end humans are imperfect and still evolving; we can't eliminate a need for religious needs. we can only hope to spread knowledge and peace by enlightening others as much as possible. let's hope for the best
Atheism may be a form of aspergers syndrome, an inability to comprehend complex ideas, like God. Atheism is a lie, atheism is the belief in...nothing. Something coming from nothing is illogical, irrational and impossible. Atheism is a delusional lie
God is the simple explanation for complex ideas which science has always eventually been able to explain. Atheism is the REFUSAL to believe in nothing, or that which has not material form - GOD. Religion often answers complex theological paradoxes (such as why does God allow children to die in pain) with the glib, thoughtless response: "God, works in mysterious ways". It seems that you are unable to comprehend complex issues that pertain to your very own religion.
@keereekee "The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing - is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice."
Richard Dawkins
Atheism is the belief in nothing, something coming from nothing is a scientific impossibility.
"When you eliminate the impossible, what remains is not only possible, but probable"- Michio Kaku
@lmhjs1000 - Oh come on, how could you think it will take that long for religion to die. Religion is losing at every single premise of the spectrum. They have basically already lost, and it is basically already over for them. Atheism is continuing to rise and science is finally beginning to replace pseudoscience. Reason is finally beginning to replace religion.
@MarvelsofaLifetime I hope your right, but unfortunately children cant help being born into religions. The birth rate amongst islam is higher than ever, this means millions more of brainwashed people. I think it should be illegal to label a religion on children until a certain age where they can understand and choose for themselves. Its abuse of the mind, and it cages there freedom...sick!
@lmhjs1000 But I find living in the UK, many muslim youths are becoming westernised and are extremelly moderate. I dont think this is a big problem and is largely exagerated by the right wing press. I accept we have some extremists, and 7/7 proved that, but dont forget this was just 4 stupid men of a country with around 2millioon muslims or there about.
Islam in Europe is not a concern for me. Any religious moderate living here is not a problem. Extremists of any Abrahamic faith are the issue
@markgg1 People forget how extreme the church was a few centuries prior so christians really need to chek their history before judging Islam.
Both of these faiths have the potential to do great wrong, and great good. Its about the country at large. A secular modern liberal democracy will breed people with intrinsic ideas of human rights, compassion, rationality - and moderate religion kept in che under these ideas is not a concern. The extremists come out of the woodwork when nations break down
@markgg1 on the other hand ... just remember that islam is on the same timeline as christianity. It's 1400 years old as christianity is really 1900 years old. There's a 500 year gap and in that time you'll see islam become either what christianity is today or 100 times more vicious. Religions, especially the monotheistic ones all seem to evolve similarly along that same timeline. Wish I could be here in 500 years just to find out
@sum1otosh1 good point, but I still think religion is not a problem, until it becomes too dogmatic and irrational. Ok ideally an atheist world would be beneficial in the world, but history shows religion may be part of our nature so must be tolerated and kept under a leash via seperation of church state, liberal values in a state, etc etc..
@markgg1 Oh don't get me wrong. I understand the natural evolution of the human mind and social order .... but once the social and psychological evolution of the primate known as homo-sapien has reached the level that it has .... then fillinf the gap with supersticion is really detrimental to our wellbeing
@sum1otosh1 Agreed. Frankly I dont know if religion will ever disapear. Obviously I hope it does but im convinced that it must have some biological explanation because every culture in history, even ones that never crossed paths believed in magic. Perhaps if we ever understand every aspect of nature and the universe people wont need magical explanations as they understand the processes. Maybe religion is simply filling holes in knowledge with a simplistic magical explanation?
@markgg1 Sadly the human mind's survival instinct is one of storyboarding that we get from being primates, it does have the negative side affect of superstition.
2 apes drinking by the river. Ape one disappears from sight. All that's left is a long fat grrove in the mud. Storyboarding tells ape 2 that ape 1 was drinking by the river, something jumped out of the river and dragged it in. Don't go by the river again. Story told to other apes. "What was it?" they ask. ....
@markgg1 then they fill in the blanks. For apes that have never seen a crocodile they fill the blanks with the scariest thing they can think of. Maybe a giant ape that lives under the water waiting to drag in and kill the other apes. "Why did it happen?" apes don't know why so they come up with ideas. Ape 1 was drinking heavily, ape 1 was being greedy. Underwater ape took ape1 and not ape 2 because ape 1 was greedy.
It grows and becomes religion. It evolves ... ironically
@sum1otosh1 good explanation. Ive also heard that we see purpose in everything. Psychologists find that if they ask children why rocks are sharp, they will answer with soething like 'so animals can scratch their backs on them'... Religion could be the result of us humans seeing a 'purpose' in things where there is none, for example a 'purpose' to existance, or life, or a purpose to events that are relevant to them. In a way its such arrogance as people think the universe has a plan for them.
@markgg1 of course. That's also part of the 'why' question that the apes asked. Why did ape 1 get grabbed by the big underwater ape? It's a way of preventing themselves from doing the same thing. It's not something we can switch off though. We always ask why and, most of the time, fill in the blanks relating to what we need. Whether we want to be afraid of something or attracted to something. It's just a pity we find it so difficult to switch off.
@sum1otosh1 I don't think you're right. Islam was the scientific powerhouse of the medieval ages despite its later creation to christianity. When Christian Europe was bogged down in superstition and backward nonsense the Muslim world was the cultural and scientific centre of the world. Sadly over the ages the wrong people came into power and the religion regressed into a wholly dogmatic and superstitious ideology.
@guild1981 "Islam was the scientific powerhouse of the medieval ages"
No it wasn't. It was PEOPLE who happened to be muslims. The scientific progress that happened there was not because of religion but despite it, because at that specific time the religion didn't try to control every part of life, politics etc. We don't speak about the ancient Greeks in religious context when talking about their achievements. No one says the work of Newton was a christian contribution to science.
@byteresistor. I said the Muslim world as in geographical location and culture. Islam did tell people what to do back then as it does now but it had a doctrinal policy to acquire knowledge. Rich merchants often paid huge sums of money for ancient greek texts from travelling sailors to major ports in the middle east. When I say muslim world I mean geographically as it is the easiest way to describe the area, but the religion ALLOWED scientific advancement when christianty at the time did not.
@byteresistor and we don't speak about the Greeks in a religious context, we speak of it culturally. their paganism did not tell people what to do so much as Islam, but culture and religion are very much tied, especially back then, not so much in our secular world.Newton by the way was a christian but I never say any scientific achievement is because of a religion, but society at the time rejects or accepts scientific progress depending on its own dogmas and principles. you've gone way overboard
did he just refer to us (brits) as his "former countrymen"???
lol, good point though about the revolutionary war and how britain still beat every country (including the USA in the war of 1812) despite being drunkards and ill disciplined compared to other armies (but then again they were the best trained, still one of the best trained)
people that stand against religious nonsence put a smile on my face it is truly a great cause i hope that one day hopefully in some of our own lifes for a world without religion and devoid of the evil that comes with it
(Cont'd) We must assume that if God wasn't watching over them they'd have no regard for their fellow man. So their good works are only because they are cooerced into doing them for spiritual reward. Just because they are so direlect that they need god to keep them on the straight and narrow doesn't mean the rest of us do.
It never fails when Hitchens or Dawkins are debating that the religious get into morals and claim that atheism is synonymous with nihilism and amoralism. Its very specious reasoning and I'm happy Hitchens explained that you don't need religion to do good work. And glad that he goes the extra mile to explain that it's a reflection on religious people's character that they claim they'd be horrible people committing egregious acts if they didn't believe in God. Show's their immorality.
Which of us is the real christian? "..If you need a christian or religious reason to do what you ought to be doing anyway for your fellow creature.. it seems to me at best superfluous and at worst perhaps slightly.. suspect; why would you need an extra reason?"
Exactly. Why would you need any other reason for morality; for altruism other than common compassion and a will to survive? God has been disproved, the bible has been disproved which is the entire basis of god.
Atheism may be a form of Aspergers syndrome-Signs and symptoms include:
Engaging in one-sided, long-winded conversations, without noticing if the listener is listening or trying to change the subject. Displaying unusual nonverbal communication, such as lack of eye contact, few facial expressions, or awkward body postures and gestures
Showing an intense obsession with one or two specific, narrow subjects.
Appearing not to understand, empathize with or be sensitive to others' feelings
You know what? I wanna say 'where's the other guy's voice' and 'this is biased', but based on previous experience, I can kinda guess what the other guy's gonna say. Sadly (truly), the voice that speaks for religion is hardly ever a very intellectual one - even when being voiced by otherwise intelligent people (this maybe sounds like a form of dark humor but I'm being serious)
I've watched the whole thing and you aren't missing much. Pretty much all the usual canards are thrown at Hitchens and he simply sloughs them off as if they were spitballs, and shrugs.
But perhaps the worst moment Olasky has is when he claims that when he (supposedly) was an atheist, his first marriage fell apart because he wasn't as good a person then as he is now as a Christian. It was a really stupid equivocation fallacy, and the fact that he felt fine making such a dumb argument is weird.
@GenericUser19xx: Agree, I watched the whole debate as well, and Olasky's arguments are weak and old. He even repeats the old "the probablity of a protein just spontaneously forming is one in 10^260" (therefore god exists). (I almost expected the "tornado ripping through a junk yard and creating a boing 747", which basically is exactly the same). Obviously, he doesn't understand science just as he is ignorant about secular morality and history.
One of the major problems with the Christian religion is that the followers seem to think the world will end once Christianity ends. They do not take history into account, that Gods have come and gone in the past, that mankind continued to exist even after those Gods became myths. Instead they prefer to think with mob mentality, that it's okay to be wasteful while here on earth because one day Jesus will come for them.
Maybe this is why people pollute and pillage the land so much. "oh yeah, the world's gonna end in a few years, so why leave anything behind for our grandkids?"
Fun fact: Jesus actually preached about how the world would end within a few years.
Eventually, there will be no religion, and in schools people will be laughing that humans used to believe this religion and god, just like christians laugh that people used to believe in thor, I think it's hilarious how ignorant religious people are, they are part of history repeating itself, a retarded belief existing because of stupidity and laughed at in the near future.
A clarification. People won't laugh at religion as such. The will laugh about religion at this day and time. No one think it's funny that the Greeks had religion, it made perfect sense. Today, in the
"western" world... that's kind of funny. But more scary than funny if you ask me.
We got $30 worth of supplies and some crayons and such for african children, and put in a show box size container that the church gave out, though we are an atheist family we just wanna help. Then we found out that when the children recieve the box they are tought that God gave it to them and God alone is is the reason they have it. Not Canadians. My family was very very hurt. We took the time and the money, and the desire to help the children... then they say it is God... Bastards.
This is one of the things I hated being raised by heavily religious mother. If I ever helped her, she praised God. If someone gave her something, she said "Jehovah provides!" What bullshit.
@Dacijo No offense Dacijo, But not our side. I think we do an injustice to such great minds as Hitchens by acknowledging that there are 2 sides. When it has been irrefutably proven to be one sided. The fact that the debates are still going on is appaling.
This is my favorite segment of this series, and it's a great and resounding rebuttal even if you take CH's critique of religion out and just listen to the historical corrections. CH shows how unbelievably rosy-eyed the Christian Right's historical revisionists are when he inciseively demonstrates the paucity of logic behind Olasky's version of events. CH always has a global perspective and it never fails to vanquish his opposition quickly. His points have likely escaped a lot of scholars even.
I really do hope he has converted any religious people at all. It boggles my mind that people will actually take the myths and stories which aren't based on evidence...so seriously.
Hitchens is intelligent, however, there are other intelligent individuals who claim to have proven using mathematics and logic the existence of God: google or youtube Christopher Langan and his CTMU.
The flag's stars represent Horus the sun god. Obama is today's messiah helping Jews make slaves globally. Ancient Egyptian leaders, who Jews claim to hate for being slave owners, have installed Obama to be a slave maker. They use lies to achieve their goals, the way Obama tries to block 9/11 truth with letters to the high court, aiding terrorist insiders/traitors.
The flag's stripes represent the sun's rays, the way Egyptian art used the sun's rays.
If someone promises to bump the needle or clean the CD, can we get it to move along and say something else, perhaps just as absurd and contrary to the evidence?
The flag is a Freemason symbol with it's symbolism taken from ancient Egypt. It represents a time when the masses were threatened with nature by their leaders who extorted taxes out of them through terrorism. This is like Schwarteneger feigning a water shortage in order to extort a hidden tax from Californians who are being robbed the state with lies about nature.
I'm not sure, but that pin on Hitchen's lapel is the Freemason symbol of slavery. By design the stars were originally the one eye of Horus, an Egyptian god.
Freemasons follow the Egyptian political structure of fooling the masses with religion & organized ignorance. Leaders pretend to be messiahs like Horus was the sun god. A messiahs claims he's the son of the sun. The stripes represent the sun's rays, as with Egyptian art.
The flag symbolizes slavery. Masons appoint American leaders.
The sun was an eye of horus and the moon was. It has nothing to do with stars, you sir are an idiot. Please get your facts straight you ignorant fool.
The fireman saying "Holy shit" prophesied Obama's messianic rise as a Bilderberg's tool of genocide.
Supposedly that flag pin on Hitchens' lapel is a symbol of the Bilderbergs & CFR groups who are committing global genocide as part of their Globalism Mission to fulfill biblical prophecy & move all control over money, resources & human labor into the hands of Jerusalem's Jews.
Hitchens does seem to be conning the secular world while fascist takeover.
martian luv is a great example of someone with selective hearing and/ or down syndrome. Christopher Hitchens is far from responsible for the death of anyone, and to claim he has made it "impossible" for there to be "peace in Gaza" is beyond absurd, and a completely baseless argument. Please keep your outrageous accusations to yourself.
But Hitchens is more than a prick, he is a war propagandist. He's become his own MiniTrue of the worst Orwellian type, complete with his own comrad Ogelvy in the person of Mark Daily. He asks us to ignore the fact that we were lied to for this war, claiming that it "needed" to happen, and any ruse was permissible to achieve that. So if he is asking people to walk by faith, not sight, with respect to violent aggression, is he much different from Falwell?
Honestly, I think Hitchens is hardly a good spokesperson for secular humanism (which I value & prioritize). At least with Iraq, he has shown himself to be far from humanist, & only selectively secular. This is a hypocrisy, and a blood-lust, too reminiscent of the angry man behind the pulpit. All Hitch has done is make holy war palletable to athiests, delude soldiers into fighting for something even they dont understand, & slander Cindy Sheehan for opposing the war. He has blood on his hands.
Hitch is not wrong about religion, but he DOES embody the same vices and social ills that religion creates. He just does the same thing without god. As Hitch said, Falwell made it impossible (through his rhetoric and activist work) for there to be peace in Gaza. That is very true. In the same way, Hitch has made it impossible for there to be peace in the Persian Gulf. He knows he has blood on his hands, & is defensive about just that (hence the prickishness).
YAHWEY BECAME LUCIFER! the bringer of light. som ort et Be. sil vous plait extrange.
thestarsgoblue 7 months ago
One thing I've noticed about Hitchens: though he does repeat some points or themes from his book and from one presentation to another, he never does it as a rehearsed speech. The words are different every time and conversational. This is one highly evolved mammal!
MrBeethovenfan 7 months ago
"can I have a minute?" "ok can I have two?" hahaha wonderful man
STEPASAUR 8 months ago
@STEPASAUR he said hes got a minute left. not asking if he could have one.
saiyaniam 4 months ago
one of the best rebuttals I've ever heard.
amatuerarabist 9 months ago
This is the go-to guy when you think you've run out of arguments against religion! I have waited for so long for someone to take a stab at mother theresa, and Hitchens pulls it off so beautifully!
slothmag 9 months ago
@slothmag Check out Penn and Teller.
johneamer 9 months ago
holy fuck he tears the idea of why religious people are charitable. only to spread their poisonous pathetic faith. like isLame. where they go around on dawah tours giving food to the poor and encouraging them that islame is the truthful religion.
halflifeproductionz 9 months ago
Philanthropy and Charity are poison and a scam for the rich to hide their extreme wealth
TheDano1947 9 months ago
I love the soundtrack from "The God that wasn't there" playing in the background. Well done.
TIKOMIX 10 months ago
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robertsigsworth 10 months ago
Brilliant bastard ;)
nathanmarto 11 months ago
Jefferson and Hitchens share a birthday, among other things.. Makes me wonder
shortfuse41 11 months ago
awww-oooh, 11 religious ppl detected :D
Or3st1s 11 months ago
Greatest atheist in HISTORY!!!!
jrev37 11 months ago
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To quote Nathanjameslewis (because I cant promote his post with the thumbs up): "Would love to watch this but I can't as the production is retarded and created by a fool who doesn't take this man seriously".
Rhoky 11 months ago
Is there a link to this video without this crop and edits? Also the aspect ratios of your video is skewed!
The48thRonin 1 year ago
Hate to disagree with Mr.Hitchens but it was Czarist Russia,believe it or not,that helped the Colonialists the most because of the anger they had for the British Empire. And other countries as well when they saw the colonialists standing up to UK hegemony.
tjrxk7 1 year ago
what's the film or the name of that boy called?
PrincessGarnet85 1 year ago
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tjrxk7 1 year ago
Would love to watch this but I can't as the production is retarded and created by a fool who doesn't take this man seriously
nathanjameslewis 1 year ago
great video, whats up with the stupid fuckin music
jason423234 1 year ago
communism is a religion?
MamaMario13 1 year ago
@MamaMario13
Communist leaders usually act as godheads of the state.
achooothanks 1 year ago
3 but I can not forgive any German that voted for Hitler and would still say that he also did good things like the conctruction of roads or the Volkswagen which means People'scar. So any religious believer is like a German that knows what horrible acts were carried out but still, keeps supporting that dictatorship..
Jerrez 1 year ago
@Jerrez
You're so right! Anyone who praises VW should be shot imho! The bloody junker has been nothing but headache for me!
kirkey99 1 year ago
.2 I can forgive the German population that voted for Hitler in the 1930's because they didn't think for themselfs and were not completly informed and used by someone, that might really have belieft that he was doing god's work,
Jerrez 1 year ago
Religion poisons everything because it does not let you think for your self and that can lead to a very narrow and dangerous perspective. Just go back 70 years and look at Germany
Jerrez 1 year ago
Hitchens makes me realize there is a god , his name is Hitchens .
Earrot 1 year ago
OY VAY....He's right on the money with the fabricated story of Exodus and most likely everything else in that 'book'! Here Here Mr.Hitchens!!!
tjrxk7 1 year ago
Wonderful speaker Mr.Hitchens is but ask him if he ever heard of the Trilateral Commission,the CFR or the Federal Reserve board and he would say "Who are they? Never heard of them ole chap."
tjrxk7 1 year ago
@tjrxk7
I wouldn't say hitchens didn't know about the CFR and federal reserve but it pains me that someone with his knowledge doesn't know about the New World Order... :/
good comment tho :)
keep it up
never surrender to tyranny!
kashif9595 1 year ago
@kashif9595 New world order is somehow worse than (The old world order) .what difference does it make specifically to you ?
Do you think ,Order is preferable to chaos ?
I already know your answer to that ( so long as it is our order ) so all you need is for someone to explain ,inform the populous what to think ( Use the emotion state of the public to insight ) old story ! and fear is a powerful persuader .I can think this ,Ponders the question "Has someone else mastered it" ?
Radicalindifference 1 year ago
How does one get to this level of intelligence? Other than being born that way, you have to have practice. I will do my best, and with some luck, I hope to be as brilliant as he is, when I'm his age.
Tharrel 1 year ago
hahahahhahaah i love how the link to this video says "total annihilation"!!!! too funny.
pureperil 1 year ago
@pureperil i saw that and started laughing also ...heheheheh
too funny Hitchens Rocks !
robotsrocks2 1 year ago
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I cannot help you, for the journey is a lonely one. Only you can go on your journey. Only you can seek your Truth. So you see, none may help you, for it is not help that you need. It is acceptance. Accept the loneliness, and search the only place left: within. That is where the journey leads you. That is where to find your Truth. Accept that, and stop listening to me, for I cannot help you. None can
9innail 1 year ago
God is real. I am God. God wrote this. I am you. You are God. You wrote this. It is forever being written and read right NOW. The words are eternal and not subject to entropy. I use the Word of God (which is the word of Me/You) to express infinity through a finite vessel (which is my physical body). Your interpretation of these words eternal may infinitely vary, but the meaning is never truer than right NOW. "I am HERE and you are THERE", who else but you (God) could right that? awaken
9innail 1 year ago
@9innail
Does that mean I have access to that fine finite vessel?
KarinMikazuki 1 year ago
@KarinMikazuki The vessel is "individual", but the being that is "wearing" it is "universal". You are wearing your own vessel, which you have used to write that comment, and ARE using to read this comment now.
9innail 1 year ago
@9innail I predict that, within the next 20 years, you will find yourself in prison for sexual harrassment, sexual coercion and rape. And since you will have done all this under the disguise of a cult leader, possibly minors will be involved.
I know all this because I am scandinavian and we're intuned with the cosmos, heaven, hell, nature and that god damned radiostation from Estonia somehow..
And since you and God and Me are the same, this is pretty much your own confession.
S-C-H-O-O-L! GO!
820423 1 year ago
This is another great talk by Hitchens. You don't need to provide commentary, xJediHowieX. His words speak for themselves
PapaWilk 1 year ago
he truly earns his Mark Twain-esque wardrobe
planetdarwin 1 year ago
xJediHowieX - are you near Toronto so I can slap you in the mouth for the music?
testiclesDOTca 1 year ago
@testiclesDOTca Perhaps just asking him not to put music in next time he uploads would be sufficient.
Seanze329 1 year ago
People who like to watch this man are not interested in your internet gimmicks. Just give us the video. He's the star here, not you.
Murphy1844 1 year ago
@Murphy1844 love to hear from fools ..... u r a good one..ha ha h a ha ha
15Thetiger 1 year ago
@Murphy1844 Agreed.
Seanze329 1 year ago
Religion will die soon, whereas christians, muslims and jewish will still stick to their beliefs the truth is that the lack of attachment to the core spirit that formed them is too far away. All christians, muslims and jewish sin and they keep believing that at some point their god will forgive them. Only religious people are capable of atrocities in the name of ther stupid beliefs. Their time is coming.
alobo2000 1 year ago
@alobo2000 You should watch the Zeitgeist movie and Zeitgeist Addendum, I feel that you would be interested in it.
Seanze329 1 year ago
the religious wont stop until everyone who disagrees with them is dead. which is scary when you think how many religions there are.. religion is cultural, science is universal. science learns for the benefit of the human race, religion ignores for the sake of its believers
YourJustHuman 1 year ago
@YourJustHuman very well said, that's a fair outlook of the religious situation.
stukadiving 1 year ago
This is what I've been tlaking about, and have been getting little backing.
A person I know is becoming a priest, and her reason was that she wants to help people, she is a kind person and wants to help. Why does she need an exuse for her willingness to help people? She will go through 7 years of religious education to get a job with which she can help people. I would rather become a lawyer to help people, or a doctor. Priests give little true comfort to people, and a lot of false comfort.
Kan2209 1 year ago
Does anyone know the name of the film he starts talking about at 5:18?
JoolsCaesar 1 year ago
@JoolsCaesar Pretty sure it's "The Story of Marjoe". It's really good, too. I saw it with our campus secular society.
pyroclasm32 1 year ago
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TheFictionGuy 1 year ago
I am quite saddened by Hitchen's illness. I hope he recovers.
chip8989 1 year ago
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Atheism may be a form of Aspergers Syndrome- an inability to comprehend complex ideas such as God. Atheism is a lie, atheism is the belief in...nothing. Something coming from nothing is delusional, illogical, irrational and impossible. Atheism is a lie.
moonlightbateman 1 year ago
As The Rock once said 'Layeth the Smacketh Down'!
jjwalker31 1 year ago
Can you say OWNAGE!!!!
chrismx24 1 year ago
@chrismx24
OWNAGE!!!!
drche420 1 year ago
brilliant and refreshing
sageejumanjee 1 year ago
Just watched this series again after first seeing it the first time 2 years ago. This clip, to me, really gets to the core of the issue and is simply Hitchens at his best. I cannot see how a theist can refute anything he has stated in this clip... it's pure rational and reasonable ownage.
adknerr 1 year ago
It's going to be ultimately imossible for religion to stop it's effect on humans. Hitchens makes a point on this in some other bit of work when he says that in the end humans are imperfect and still evolving; we can't eliminate a need for religious needs. we can only hope to spread knowledge and peace by enlightening others as much as possible. let's hope for the best
JordanMedina 1 year ago
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Atheism may be a form of aspergers syndrome, an inability to comprehend complex ideas, like God. Atheism is a lie, atheism is the belief in...nothing. Something coming from nothing is illogical, irrational and impossible. Atheism is a delusional lie
moonlightbateman 1 year ago
@moonlightbateman
God is the simple explanation for complex ideas which science has always eventually been able to explain. Atheism is the REFUSAL to believe in nothing, or that which has not material form - GOD. Religion often answers complex theological paradoxes (such as why does God allow children to die in pain) with the glib, thoughtless response: "God, works in mysterious ways". It seems that you are unable to comprehend complex issues that pertain to your very own religion.
keereekee 1 year ago
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@keereekee "The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing - is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice."
Richard Dawkins
Atheism is the belief in nothing, something coming from nothing is a scientific impossibility.
"When you eliminate the impossible, what remains is not only possible, but probable"- Michio Kaku
moonlightbateman 1 year ago
i'm 23 years old, i hope before my time is up
if humanity still walks the earth, all religion is dead
lmhjs1000 1 year ago
@lmhjs1000
Agreed!
AHagmann 1 year ago
@lmhjs1000
18 here, hoping the exact same thing.
Londron 1 year ago
@lmhjs1000 - Oh come on, how could you think it will take that long for religion to die. Religion is losing at every single premise of the spectrum. They have basically already lost, and it is basically already over for them. Atheism is continuing to rise and science is finally beginning to replace pseudoscience. Reason is finally beginning to replace religion.
MarvelsofaLifetime 1 year ago
@MarvelsofaLifetime I hope your right, but unfortunately children cant help being born into religions. The birth rate amongst islam is higher than ever, this means millions more of brainwashed people. I think it should be illegal to label a religion on children until a certain age where they can understand and choose for themselves. Its abuse of the mind, and it cages there freedom...sick!
lmhjs1000 1 year ago
@lmhjs1000 But I find living in the UK, many muslim youths are becoming westernised and are extremelly moderate. I dont think this is a big problem and is largely exagerated by the right wing press. I accept we have some extremists, and 7/7 proved that, but dont forget this was just 4 stupid men of a country with around 2millioon muslims or there about.
Islam in Europe is not a concern for me. Any religious moderate living here is not a problem. Extremists of any Abrahamic faith are the issue
markgg1 1 year ago
@markgg1 People forget how extreme the church was a few centuries prior so christians really need to chek their history before judging Islam.
Both of these faiths have the potential to do great wrong, and great good. Its about the country at large. A secular modern liberal democracy will breed people with intrinsic ideas of human rights, compassion, rationality - and moderate religion kept in che under these ideas is not a concern. The extremists come out of the woodwork when nations break down
markgg1 1 year ago
@markgg1 on the other hand ... just remember that islam is on the same timeline as christianity. It's 1400 years old as christianity is really 1900 years old. There's a 500 year gap and in that time you'll see islam become either what christianity is today or 100 times more vicious. Religions, especially the monotheistic ones all seem to evolve similarly along that same timeline. Wish I could be here in 500 years just to find out
sum1otosh1 1 year ago
@sum1otosh1 good point, but I still think religion is not a problem, until it becomes too dogmatic and irrational. Ok ideally an atheist world would be beneficial in the world, but history shows religion may be part of our nature so must be tolerated and kept under a leash via seperation of church state, liberal values in a state, etc etc..
markgg1 1 year ago
@markgg1 Oh don't get me wrong. I understand the natural evolution of the human mind and social order .... but once the social and psychological evolution of the primate known as homo-sapien has reached the level that it has .... then fillinf the gap with supersticion is really detrimental to our wellbeing
sum1otosh1 1 year ago
@sum1otosh1 Agreed. Frankly I dont know if religion will ever disapear. Obviously I hope it does but im convinced that it must have some biological explanation because every culture in history, even ones that never crossed paths believed in magic. Perhaps if we ever understand every aspect of nature and the universe people wont need magical explanations as they understand the processes. Maybe religion is simply filling holes in knowledge with a simplistic magical explanation?
markgg1 1 year ago
@markgg1 Sadly the human mind's survival instinct is one of storyboarding that we get from being primates, it does have the negative side affect of superstition.
2 apes drinking by the river. Ape one disappears from sight. All that's left is a long fat grrove in the mud. Storyboarding tells ape 2 that ape 1 was drinking by the river, something jumped out of the river and dragged it in. Don't go by the river again. Story told to other apes. "What was it?" they ask. ....
sum1otosh1 1 year ago
@markgg1 then they fill in the blanks. For apes that have never seen a crocodile they fill the blanks with the scariest thing they can think of. Maybe a giant ape that lives under the water waiting to drag in and kill the other apes. "Why did it happen?" apes don't know why so they come up with ideas. Ape 1 was drinking heavily, ape 1 was being greedy. Underwater ape took ape1 and not ape 2 because ape 1 was greedy.
It grows and becomes religion. It evolves ... ironically
sum1otosh1 1 year ago
@sum1otosh1 good explanation. Ive also heard that we see purpose in everything. Psychologists find that if they ask children why rocks are sharp, they will answer with soething like 'so animals can scratch their backs on them'... Religion could be the result of us humans seeing a 'purpose' in things where there is none, for example a 'purpose' to existance, or life, or a purpose to events that are relevant to them. In a way its such arrogance as people think the universe has a plan for them.
markgg1 1 year ago
@markgg1 of course. That's also part of the 'why' question that the apes asked. Why did ape 1 get grabbed by the big underwater ape? It's a way of preventing themselves from doing the same thing. It's not something we can switch off though. We always ask why and, most of the time, fill in the blanks relating to what we need. Whether we want to be afraid of something or attracted to something. It's just a pity we find it so difficult to switch off.
sum1otosh1 1 year ago
@sum1otosh1 I don't think you're right. Islam was the scientific powerhouse of the medieval ages despite its later creation to christianity. When Christian Europe was bogged down in superstition and backward nonsense the Muslim world was the cultural and scientific centre of the world. Sadly over the ages the wrong people came into power and the religion regressed into a wholly dogmatic and superstitious ideology.
guild1981 1 year ago
@guild1981 "Islam was the scientific powerhouse of the medieval ages"
No it wasn't. It was PEOPLE who happened to be muslims. The scientific progress that happened there was not because of religion but despite it, because at that specific time the religion didn't try to control every part of life, politics etc. We don't speak about the ancient Greeks in religious context when talking about their achievements. No one says the work of Newton was a christian contribution to science.
byteresistor 1 year ago
@byteresistor. I said the Muslim world as in geographical location and culture. Islam did tell people what to do back then as it does now but it had a doctrinal policy to acquire knowledge. Rich merchants often paid huge sums of money for ancient greek texts from travelling sailors to major ports in the middle east. When I say muslim world I mean geographically as it is the easiest way to describe the area, but the religion ALLOWED scientific advancement when christianty at the time did not.
guild1981 1 year ago
@byteresistor and we don't speak about the Greeks in a religious context, we speak of it culturally. their paganism did not tell people what to do so much as Islam, but culture and religion are very much tied, especially back then, not so much in our secular world.Newton by the way was a christian but I never say any scientific achievement is because of a religion, but society at the time rejects or accepts scientific progress depending on its own dogmas and principles. you've gone way overboard
guild1981 1 year ago
did he just refer to us (brits) as his "former countrymen"???
lol, good point though about the revolutionary war and how britain still beat every country (including the USA in the war of 1812) despite being drunkards and ill disciplined compared to other armies (but then again they were the best trained, still one of the best trained)
lawebber 1 year ago
people that stand against religious nonsence put a smile on my face it is truly a great cause i hope that one day hopefully in some of our own lifes for a world without religion and devoid of the evil that comes with it
patrickledford420 1 year ago
he touched religion the way a preist touches a small boy
MrDasmaster 1 year ago
I almost feel sorry for religion.. ALMOST..
americasace2002 1 year ago
PWND
GBart 2 years ago
(Cont'd) We must assume that if God wasn't watching over them they'd have no regard for their fellow man. So their good works are only because they are cooerced into doing them for spiritual reward. Just because they are so direlect that they need god to keep them on the straight and narrow doesn't mean the rest of us do.
jseiter2 2 years ago
It never fails when Hitchens or Dawkins are debating that the religious get into morals and claim that atheism is synonymous with nihilism and amoralism. Its very specious reasoning and I'm happy Hitchens explained that you don't need religion to do good work. And glad that he goes the extra mile to explain that it's a reflection on religious people's character that they claim they'd be horrible people committing egregious acts if they didn't believe in God. Show's their immorality.
jseiter2 2 years ago
What is this fucking "music" on the background?
bary1234 2 years ago
hey. darn right. what the heck is that stuff
pikiwiki 2 years ago
I recognize it from "The God Who Wasn't There", and I think Brian Fleming actually wrote it.
GBart 2 years ago
I want to hear Olasky, Where to find the uncut version?
goldragon988 2 years ago
@goldragon988 he literally says nothing of value. same old overused apologetics.
JordanKimball 2 years ago
Check out user MathYou86's 8-part series of this talk. You can see a few of them in the related videos box at the top-right.
GenericUser19xx 2 years ago
Which of us is the real christian? "..If you need a christian or religious reason to do what you ought to be doing anyway for your fellow creature.. it seems to me at best superfluous and at worst perhaps slightly.. suspect; why would you need an extra reason?"
Exactly. Why would you need any other reason for morality; for altruism other than common compassion and a will to survive? God has been disproved, the bible has been disproved which is the entire basis of god.
renxxa3 2 years ago
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Atheism may be a form of Aspergers syndrome-Signs and symptoms include:
Engaging in one-sided, long-winded conversations, without noticing if the listener is listening or trying to change the subject. Displaying unusual nonverbal communication, such as lack of eye contact, few facial expressions, or awkward body postures and gestures
Showing an intense obsession with one or two specific, narrow subjects.
Appearing not to understand, empathize with or be sensitive to others' feelings
moonlightbateman 2 years ago
@moonlightbateman
Yet there is still no proof for god, and that is what's important. That is the issue.
giggletronics 2 years ago
@moonlightbateman YES!! fantastic, fantastic... well said, nailed it... sounds like Obama as well
uswestons 1 year ago
You know what? I wanna say 'where's the other guy's voice' and 'this is biased', but based on previous experience, I can kinda guess what the other guy's gonna say. Sadly (truly), the voice that speaks for religion is hardly ever a very intellectual one - even when being voiced by otherwise intelligent people (this maybe sounds like a form of dark humor but I'm being serious)
ErSchTsp 2 years ago
I've watched the whole thing and you aren't missing much. Pretty much all the usual canards are thrown at Hitchens and he simply sloughs them off as if they were spitballs, and shrugs.
But perhaps the worst moment Olasky has is when he claims that when he (supposedly) was an atheist, his first marriage fell apart because he wasn't as good a person then as he is now as a Christian. It was a really stupid equivocation fallacy, and the fact that he felt fine making such a dumb argument is weird.
GenericUser19xx 2 years ago
@GenericUser19xx: Agree, I watched the whole debate as well, and Olasky's arguments are weak and old. He even repeats the old "the probablity of a protein just spontaneously forming is one in 10^260" (therefore god exists). (I almost expected the "tornado ripping through a junk yard and creating a boing 747", which basically is exactly the same). Obviously, he doesn't understand science just as he is ignorant about secular morality and history.
Mattnesss 1 year ago
haha "total annihilation" fucking rofl'd great set of vids.
OrGaZmO666 2 years ago
i'd like to hear the other guys rambling rebuttal.. and whats with the light techno music in the background?
shadyreefer69 2 years ago
haha yeah its like elevator techno
bryansteeksma 2 years ago
One of the major problems with the Christian religion is that the followers seem to think the world will end once Christianity ends. They do not take history into account, that Gods have come and gone in the past, that mankind continued to exist even after those Gods became myths. Instead they prefer to think with mob mentality, that it's okay to be wasteful while here on earth because one day Jesus will come for them.
TitaniumSkeleton 2 years ago
scientologyst are worst, but i think all religions are a cancer
karmaloko 2 years ago
true
ollybreh 2 years ago
Maybe this is why people pollute and pillage the land so much. "oh yeah, the world's gonna end in a few years, so why leave anything behind for our grandkids?"
Fun fact: Jesus actually preached about how the world would end within a few years.
Ebrainiac1 2 years ago
Eventually, there will be no religion, and in schools people will be laughing that humans used to believe this religion and god, just like christians laugh that people used to believe in thor, I think it's hilarious how ignorant religious people are, they are part of history repeating itself, a retarded belief existing because of stupidity and laughed at in the near future.
robbaress 2 years ago
A clarification. People won't laugh at religion as such. The will laugh about religion at this day and time. No one think it's funny that the Greeks had religion, it made perfect sense. Today, in the
"western" world... that's kind of funny. But more scary than funny if you ask me.
TumshieX 2 years ago
oh this is great. does the other side get to speak?
peacewalker7 2 years ago
Hopefully not. They've had 2,000 years to speak. Our turn
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
so you believe, but in fact they have not had 2k years to speak. It has been tweedledumb and now it shall be tweedledee! What a joke!
peacewalker7 2 years ago
LOL
robbaress 2 years ago
yeah...kinda boring after a while =\
SevenRiderAirForce 2 years ago
We got $30 worth of supplies and some crayons and such for african children, and put in a show box size container that the church gave out, though we are an atheist family we just wanna help. Then we found out that when the children recieve the box they are tought that God gave it to them and God alone is is the reason they have it. Not Canadians. My family was very very hurt. We took the time and the money, and the desire to help the children... then they say it is God... Bastards.
aryonas 2 years ago
This is one of the things I hated being raised by heavily religious mother. If I ever helped her, she praised God. If someone gave her something, she said "Jehovah provides!" What bullshit.
zeldagoblin 2 years ago
glad hes on our side
Dacijo 2 years ago
@Dacijo No offense Dacijo, But not our side. I think we do an injustice to such great minds as Hitchens by acknowledging that there are 2 sides. When it has been irrefutably proven to be one sided. The fact that the debates are still going on is appaling.
weekes3660 1 year ago
megakill
ultrakill
ThomasCBrannan 2 years ago
This is my favorite segment of this series, and it's a great and resounding rebuttal even if you take CH's critique of religion out and just listen to the historical corrections. CH shows how unbelievably rosy-eyed the Christian Right's historical revisionists are when he inciseively demonstrates the paucity of logic behind Olasky's version of events. CH always has a global perspective and it never fails to vanquish his opposition quickly. His points have likely escaped a lot of scholars even.
SurelyYewJest 2 years ago
i profer that men is diablc not religion
simbiosis999 2 years ago
He's cool. To reel that speech off, that eloquently and coherently..
fuckin A
nigispangy 2 years ago
and he is usually just right hammered :) "off his tits" i believe they say in england :P very brilliant man :)
Neeboopsh 2 years ago
Have you looked into "Authors@google" available on YouTube?.........!!!
ductapeunion 2 years ago
I really do hope he has converted any religious people at all. It boggles my mind that people will actually take the myths and stories which aren't based on evidence...so seriously.
It's a wonderment.
cornwallace 2 years ago
they're fear based.
TwistedOrgasmicRage 2 years ago
Hitchens IS GOD! What a fucking genius! The depth of his intellect is just immeasurable! He expresses all that I can't yet put into words and more!
nattt23 2 years ago
While I agree with this post's spirit, I wonder what Hitchens himself would think of your first sentence.
adamtequalsgreat 2 years ago
....is god? Ironic!!!!! lol!!
I agree with your sentiments surely!!!
gregonamus 2 years ago
Hitchens is intelligent, however, there are other intelligent individuals who claim to have proven using mathematics and logic the existence of God: google or youtube Christopher Langan and his CTMU.
adamgue125 2 years ago
Claiming and have are two very different things
mgore90 2 years ago
You cant prove god, they claim to have proven, but so do priest with "faith".
friskbank 2 years ago
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I was just about to say that :)
9Rayvik9 2 years ago
What an unbiased editing of the debate....
:)
ltbelial 2 years ago
AHAHAH 0:35
BIGGERLebowski 2 years ago
The last few seconds were pure ownage.
greylikethis0112358 2 years ago
Great choise of song!
Is this the real thing? From the film "The god who wasn't there"
TheeGrandmaster 2 years ago
"The flag's stars represent Horus the sun god. Obama is today's messiah helping Jews make slaves globally."...
Two word response - LITHIUM NEEDED
FloydsterUtube 2 years ago
The flag's stars represent Horus the sun god. Obama is today's messiah helping Jews make slaves globally. Ancient Egyptian leaders, who Jews claim to hate for being slave owners, have installed Obama to be a slave maker. They use lies to achieve their goals, the way Obama tries to block 9/11 truth with letters to the high court, aiding terrorist insiders/traitors.
The flag's stripes represent the sun's rays, the way Egyptian art used the sun's rays.
The Statue of Liberty is a slave symbol.
ExoticGawdess 2 years ago
If someone promises to bump the needle or clean the CD, can we get it to move along and say something else, perhaps just as absurd and contrary to the evidence?
Beastt17 2 years ago
....hahahahahahaha
floydster qft
ootrustoo 2 years ago
The flag is a Freemason symbol with it's symbolism taken from ancient Egypt. It represents a time when the masses were threatened with nature by their leaders who extorted taxes out of them through terrorism. This is like Schwarteneger feigning a water shortage in order to extort a hidden tax from Californians who are being robbed the state with lies about nature.
Same shit, new day.
ExoticGawdess 2 years ago
I'm not sure, but that pin on Hitchen's lapel is the Freemason symbol of slavery. By design the stars were originally the one eye of Horus, an Egyptian god.
Freemasons follow the Egyptian political structure of fooling the masses with religion & organized ignorance. Leaders pretend to be messiahs like Horus was the sun god. A messiahs claims he's the son of the sun. The stripes represent the sun's rays, as with Egyptian art.
The flag symbolizes slavery. Masons appoint American leaders.
ExoticGawdess 2 years ago
The sun was an eye of horus and the moon was. It has nothing to do with stars, you sir are an idiot. Please get your facts straight you ignorant fool.
Ocelot88 2 years ago
I have to correct that:
The fireman saying "Holy shit" prophesied Obama's messianic rise as a Bilderberg's tool of genocide.
Supposedly that flag pin on Hitchens' lapel is a symbol of the Bilderbergs & CFR groups who are committing global genocide as part of their Globalism Mission to fulfill biblical prophecy & move all control over money, resources & human labor into the hands of Jerusalem's Jews.
Hitchens does seem to be conning the secular world while fascist takeover.
ExoticGawdess 2 years ago
Doesn't Hitchens wear the Kurdish flag as a pin? He supports the creation of a Kurdish state.
mymentor 2 years ago
The fireman who said "Holy" shit was describing Obama. It was pure prophecy.
ExoticGawdess 2 years ago
I like the music,, it doesn't distract me at all.
jakethegent 2 years ago
martian luv is a great example of someone with selective hearing and/ or down syndrome. Christopher Hitchens is far from responsible for the death of anyone, and to claim he has made it "impossible" for there to be "peace in Gaza" is beyond absurd, and a completely baseless argument. Please keep your outrageous accusations to yourself.
hellprized 2 years ago
"Oral Roberts....even their names give them away"
Brilliant.
CHF2 2 years ago
Who the fuck had the bucktooth idea of putting retarded music over the eloquent words of Hitchens??? Moron.
rommheim 2 years ago
I know! It's killing me... so annoying.
24LakerGirl 2 years ago
But Hitchens is more than a prick, he is a war propagandist. He's become his own MiniTrue of the worst Orwellian type, complete with his own comrad Ogelvy in the person of Mark Daily. He asks us to ignore the fact that we were lied to for this war, claiming that it "needed" to happen, and any ruse was permissible to achieve that. So if he is asking people to walk by faith, not sight, with respect to violent aggression, is he much different from Falwell?
martianluv 2 years ago
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Dvalinor 2 years ago
Honestly, I think Hitchens is hardly a good spokesperson for secular humanism (which I value & prioritize). At least with Iraq, he has shown himself to be far from humanist, & only selectively secular. This is a hypocrisy, and a blood-lust, too reminiscent of the angry man behind the pulpit. All Hitch has done is make holy war palletable to athiests, delude soldiers into fighting for something even they dont understand, & slander Cindy Sheehan for opposing the war. He has blood on his hands.
martianluv 2 years ago
Hitch is not wrong about religion, but he DOES embody the same vices and social ills that religion creates. He just does the same thing without god. As Hitch said, Falwell made it impossible (through his rhetoric and activist work) for there to be peace in Gaza. That is very true. In the same way, Hitch has made it impossible for there to be peace in the Persian Gulf. He knows he has blood on his hands, & is defensive about just that (hence the prickishness).
martianluv 2 years ago
Anyone know where I can find the full video of the other gentelmen's rebuttle? I enjoy watching theists make complete fools of themselves >:)
Erhoben 2 years ago
".."Holy Shit!" and that was exactly the correct description of what was going on"
Haha! Awesome.
incrediblemulk42 2 years ago
I think the music is supposed to be kinda.... ironic...
It is sorta funny...
amanuscarr 2 years ago
Hahaha, I honestly can't make up my mind whether the music is totally cheesy or totally cool.
zendakk 2 years ago
could this please be reposted without the annoying music?!!?!?!?? wtf!!!
mapmanic 2 years ago
Yes Please!!!!!
okiwatashi 2 years ago
I agree. It is distracting.
dafyddoe 2 years ago