I get upset sometimes when i see his highlights, After 25yrs I still can't believe what happened! 1986 was the worst NBA Draft EVER! Dennis Rodman Hall Of Famer? Wow! At that time, who would have ever thought! lol. RIP Len & Red.
len bias is basketballs biggest what if...he coulda been bigger then jordan dont believe check the stats out in the ncaa better scorer better rebounder better athlete
@84ratpoison think how amazing American Caucasians would be if they were not on meth, cocaine, heroin, crack and healthyn doses of stupidity, arrogance, they didn't have flat asses, weren't the number group where serial killers are born, liars, thieves, murderers (of native americans, blacks, muslim, etc, etc, etc...) and if most american caucasians weren't such fuckin hillBILLIES...can you hear me HELLO? Buon...
Stay away from drugs. I know ya'll hear it and joke about it but one hit can kill you and sorry to say this is what happened to this young man. R.I.P. Len
Celtic fans are funny. Let's assume that Bias doesn't OD that night, that he simply goes on a cocaine binge and that's all. Are you really banking on greatness from someone who is doing cocaine just days after being drafted?
I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Jordan tried coke before. Now what do you have to say. Do you understand the time that they lived in. It wasn't a lot of education about it and it was a status symbol.
@HeadlessEye Jordan was a compulsive gambler. Did he achieve greatness?? Lawrence Taylor was a massive cokehead and he is considered the greatest linebacker to ever play the game, and i'm not saying Bias was a cokehead. Bias partied to hard on a drug that no one really knew was dangerous at that point in time.
whats crazy is, when len bias died, the celtics died. the celtic rings stopped in 1986. lenny really altered history in a major way. lakers bulls wouldve never happened
@ENAIZHA Len wouldn't have got minutes. he would have been second fiddle to Larry. I think he would have been a good player but not future altering. People get so high in emotions and don't know when to shut up and get back to reality. The guy was good but there was better talent.
They probably weren't as high as Wayne Embry and the Cavaliers were on Danny Ferry in 1989, trading an all-star Rob Harper up for the 2nd pick.
It seems like the #2 picks in draft are busts (Bias wasn't a bust but I'm just saying). Besides Ferry, Ryan Leaf, Shawn Bradley, Darko Milicic, Wayman Tisdale, Stromile Swift, Jason Williams
@Grapes428 Kevin Durant, Bob McAdoo, Isiah Thomas, Gary Payton, Alonzo Mourning, Jason Kidd, LeMarcus Aldridge, Evgeni Malkin, Marshall Faulk, Tony Boseilli, Donovan McNabb, Julius Peppers, Calvin Johnson, Jordan Staal, Eric Staal, Dany Heatley, Daniel Sedin, Chris Pronger, Brendan Shanahan, Justin Verlander all disagree
@halokid26 Bill Russell, Joe Carter, Will Clark, Reggie Jackson, Tony Dorsett, Lawrence Taylor, Eric Dickerson, Randy White, Trevor Linden, Alexei Yashin.
@Grapes428 Jason Williams wasn't a bust either. He got injured. Lots of point guards struggle during their rookie year. Especially cause Bill Cartwright tried to put the triangle offense in....Other #2 busts: Johnny Lam Jones (over Anthony Munoz), Tony Mandarich (over Barry Sanders), Mark Merchant, Tyler Houston, Rick Mirer, Sam Bowie (over MJ).
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Ye must be born again. Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
If Bias would have lived, I think that the 1987 Celtics would have been the first team to win 70+ games, and been considered the best ever. They would have repeated as champs over LA.
However, even with Bias, the Celtics still would have had their hands full with the Lakers, Pistons, Bulls, and Blazers in the coming years.
that is an absolutely fucking ridiculous statement. len bias was not going to be an impact player as a rookie. he was going to be on the BENCH. he was not going to start over bird, mchale or parish. no player contributes 10 wins to a team coming off the bench. geez.
@idster7 I don't think that Bias would have sat on the bench as much as the year went on. That team was close to 70 wins the year before, and Bias's presence would have meant that Bird and McHale don't play too much and develop back and foot injuries. So, knowing that, 70 wins would have been very possible.
you need to consider his indirect impact, noone is saying he'd start but having a quality player like that on the bench would have meant that bird and mchale would have more oppurtunities to rest, theyd have less injury problems that year and theyd have been available when the celts needed them
bias wasnt a bust you fool. a bust is someone who doesnt deliver on their hype because of dissapointing play, NOT because of an unplanned death, he died accidently, its a tragedy not a bust
"He would have become a great player in the NBA...so sad he passed away "
It's possible, but not a guarantee. A lot of great college players have turned out to be disappointments once they entered the NBA. Not saying Len would have been a bust like Kwame Brown or anything like that, but other things could have gone wrong if he hadn't overdosed, such as injury, team chemistry, etc.
This was just a shame, the guy couldn't stay away from drugs and ruined his career. Very sad, I wish he could play and we could see what potential he had because he surely had so much.
Bias' death is the reason why the celtics where not a compeditor in the 90s...they had a great team in the 80s with bird, parrish, mchale and johnson, but they got old and bias should have been the first piece of a new generation to win titles in the 90s as well.
He would have become a great player in the NBA...so sad he passed away
I doubt it was his first time. Let's be real here. Crack sucks. Whitney said it best crack is whack. For real. I think what killed Len was mixing high quality and alcohol. Crack itself is horrible but it becomes twice as deadly when you drink heavily.
Could you imagine... McHale pulling down the rebound, throwing the outlet to Dennis Johnson, passing to Bird on the wing, who then feeds Bias filling the lane for a monster jam.
So sad. Bias was a 6'8" Jordan with a better jump shot at that time.
To answer ryanjg34's question the Celtics obtained the second pick because they traded Gerald Henderson to the Seattle Supersonics in 1984 in exchange for their first round pick in the 86Draft. The Sonics posted one of the worst records in the 1985 season which elavated the Celtics pick to number 2 overall. Another Red Auerbach masterstroke, sadly it never paid off.
0:27 says it all, he was the best pure athlete in the draft. Faster than Daughtery, deadlier than Chuck Person....Celtics lost out on at least 3 more titles when he died.
That's just so weird to hear, everyone seemed to be so high on him yet he turned out to be one of the biggest tragedies in sports history. From what I've heard he was by far the best player at Maryland and one of the best ever in the ACC. Who knows what the Celtics would have been if he had been alive!
len bias was great, but he was not fucking as good as michael jordan. i can guarantee you that they would never talk about michael jordan coming off the bench. those '86 celtics that bias was going to come off the bench for? jordan put 49 and 63 on them in the playoffs.
the same way these people think they can say he would've been as good as michael jordan, even though he never got to play an NBA game. read what i said. i was only contending with the assertion that len bias was going to be as great as michael jordan, which is ludacris. len bias was great. no question about it. best player in the draft, no question. but to say he was going to be as great as michael jordan? no way.
For those of you who get NBATV, they are replaying the 1986 draft on Wednesday at 1pm eastern. It's good to see drafts when they actually happen because there is no 20/20 hindsight. This will the only time you will see Chris Washburn discussed in a positive way.
..and Jordan & Magic & a lot of other legends. Food for thought: If Bias lived & the Celtic machine would've kept going, do you think Jordan would've only been known as a glorified ball-hog & dunk-a-holic who only cared about avg 30-40+ ppg instead of the greatest player ever w/ six rings? MJ would've been hard-pressed to win 1 title let alone 6.
The thing is you can never tell how a player is really gonna turn out.. he could've been like Michael Jordan, or he could've been like Darius Miles... with his abuse of drugs it most likely would've been the latter... Darius Miles was also regarded as one of the best forwards to come out of college btw...
Yeah, those god-damned drugs what they can do to you. Guys like Roy Tarpley had potential but he got suspended for drugs 7-10 times & now he's banned forever from the NBA. It's possible the same thing could've happened to Bias if he survived the overdose & continued to take drugs. Shawn Kemp's another that let cocaine use ruin his career. Did Miles use drugs? Or did he just suck?
Miles was a good forward out of HIGH SCHOOL not college.Bias was a million times more prepared/talented than Miles.Bias would have to had injuries to end w/o a good career and with the Celtics it was a near perfect team to go to.Unlike the Clippers/Cavs/JailBlazers to start off with.
1) you are wrong when you say you can never tell how a player is going to turn out. the people who say that are just covering up for the fact that they don't know what they were talking about. he was not going to be as great as jordan or as bad as miles. and darius miles didn't even go to college.
After watching some vids of Bias in college, he had the potential to be the greatest player in NBA history, much better than Jordan. He would've won multiple titles & Bird could've passed the torch to him & built a new dynasty but a few stupid snorts of cocaine right after the draft changed history forever & cursed the Celtics for 22 years until the 2008 title they just won.
Had Bias lived, Bird was going to put him under his tutelage & groom him and give him the keys to the franchise after he, McHale & Parish retired. You're not going to become a complete player coming out of college, Jordan, Magic, Bird weren't. But he had amazing God-given talent that we'll never know what could've been. Is it safe to say that the real reason why Michael Jordan is the greatest player in history is b/c of the Bias tragedy?
no, it's not safe to say that. len bias was extremely talented. but michael jordan was a quantum leap above any other player in the world. you cannot project that a guy is going to be as good as michael jordan. he would've had to have jordan's work ethic, competitive drive, poise under pressure & comfort in the spotlight. and he didn't.
scoobdoggydogg, do you have the rest of the 1986 draft on tape? NBATV or ESPN Classic needs to show the 1986 draft again(and include Dennis Rodman being selected). NBATV showed this draft last year at 3 or 4 in the morning. I tried to tape it but NBATV didn't air it at the time they listed and they never replayed it.
I forgot to add Chuck Person to the list of excellent players in the 1986 draft, he was the 1986-1987 Rookie of the Year and had an outstanding NBA career.
note: Walton retired in 1987 and became who of the worst announcers in NBA's history while Robert Parish played another 10 years in the league. Robert Parish final season with the Chicago Bulls and got a ring. Roy Tarpley was a good player but he was lazy, fat and drug addict. William Bedford was a bust but he was a journeymen for 10 years. Dennis Rodman is the greatest rebounder and defender ever and a well known celebrity. Brad Daugherty had a nice career with the Cavs and is a NASCAR anaylst.
The 1986 NBA Draft ended up being one of the most TRAGIC events in the history of sports and it started with Len Bias being picked. Some guys taken in the 1986 draft whose NBA careers/lives ended in chaos include Chris Washburn, William Bedford, Roy Tarpley, Pearl Washington, Walter Berry, and Baskerville Holmes.
The 1986 draft even gets bizzare because 2nd round pick DENNIS RODMAN ended up being the best NBA player in this draft. Mark Price, Ron Harper, and Brad Daugherty tie for 2nd.
Este jugador debuto en la NBA SI O NO ?
yoryi1509 13 hours ago
did they spell Parish wrong? 1:53
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such a shame we never got to see this potential amazing career unfold. It would have been Air Bias, not Air Jordan. Such a shame....
chrishardyhp 2 months ago
I get upset sometimes when i see his highlights, After 25yrs I still can't believe what happened! 1986 was the worst NBA Draft EVER! Dennis Rodman Hall Of Famer? Wow! At that time, who would have ever thought! lol. RIP Len & Red.
bb8876 2 months ago
len bias is capable of playing michael jordan toe-to-toe but jordan's ultra-competitive fire will prevent bias from winning.
bonzie1645 6 months ago
listen to those loud cheers :)
bonzie1645 6 months ago
he should have done weed instead
amanitoomer2 7 months ago
len bias is basketballs biggest what if...he coulda been bigger then jordan dont believe check the stats out in the ncaa better scorer better rebounder better athlete
newjack187 7 months ago in playlist NBA Draft
would the celtics have had better success if he actually played for em?
im talkin bout bias being there in the 90's
would it have made a difference to the celtics fortunes in that decade?
ghi34 8 months ago
I did blow like crazy years ago. I should of died instead of this guy
tittyj2020 10 months ago
think how amazing black players would be if they were not on crack.
84ratpoison 10 months ago
@84ratpoison think how amazing American Caucasians would be if they were not on meth, cocaine, heroin, crack and healthyn doses of stupidity, arrogance, they didn't have flat asses, weren't the number group where serial killers are born, liars, thieves, murderers (of native americans, blacks, muslim, etc, etc, etc...) and if most american caucasians weren't such fuckin hillBILLIES...can you hear me HELLO? Buon...
Karma2Die4 9 months ago 2
@Karma2Die4 "flat asses" lmfao. minority priorities
weweresafe 7 months ago
@weweresafe Baby gotta have that booty :)
Karma2Die4 7 months ago
@84ratpoison im.....about to cut you.
youtobe12127 9 months ago
Stay away from drugs. I know ya'll hear it and joke about it but one hit can kill you and sorry to say this is what happened to this young man. R.I.P. Len
igfromthe323 1 year ago
love you bias, you would have been one of the best players in the league, RIP.
lovi23 1 year ago
LOL
cuntwhore100 1 year ago
Listen to Len Bias' clearheadedness. How strong his mentality. No way would he have done cocaine. Damn Illuminati.
emembrace 1 year ago
poor guy.
partied a bit too soon.
sniffed too much cocaine and died 2 days later.
julianoa4l 1 year ago
Celtic fans are funny. Let's assume that Bias doesn't OD that night, that he simply goes on a cocaine binge and that's all. Are you really banking on greatness from someone who is doing cocaine just days after being drafted?
HeadlessEye 1 year ago
@HeadlessEye good point...
wizfan92301 1 year ago
@HeadlessEye
I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Jordan tried coke before. Now what do you have to say. Do you understand the time that they lived in. It wasn't a lot of education about it and it was a status symbol.
kdj997 11 months ago
@HeadlessEye Jordan was a compulsive gambler. Did he achieve greatness?? Lawrence Taylor was a massive cokehead and he is considered the greatest linebacker to ever play the game, and i'm not saying Bias was a cokehead. Bias partied to hard on a drug that no one really knew was dangerous at that point in time.
bull864 10 months ago
I'm watching the 1986 Draft on NBA TV right now and this portion was cut out.
MikeForbess 1 year ago
The story of Len Bias is very sad. I always think about what he could have became. I believe he could have been a hall of famer.
TheMrplayaplaya 1 year ago
I cry when I watch this............ he could have done so much for the Celtics.
Flipper79able 1 year ago
@Flipper79able a 22 year old man dies, and you cry because a sports team endures misfortune because of it?
idster7 1 year ago
@idster7 Your obviously very quick to think of everything so literally. I don't actually cry, retard..... I just wish Len had not died.
Flipper79able 1 year ago
whats crazy is, when len bias died, the celtics died. the celtic rings stopped in 1986. lenny really altered history in a major way. lakers bulls wouldve never happened
ENAIZHA 1 year ago
@ENAIZHA Len wouldn't have got minutes. he would have been second fiddle to Larry. I think he would have been a good player but not future altering. People get so high in emotions and don't know when to shut up and get back to reality. The guy was good but there was better talent.
NBAGOATS 1 year ago
how the hell did the celtics get bias for the 2nd pick.
bigeights 1 year ago
@bigeights We had to trade Gerald Henderson a guy who helped win the 84 finals.
Flipper79able 1 year ago
They probably weren't as high as Wayne Embry and the Cavaliers were on Danny Ferry in 1989, trading an all-star Rob Harper up for the 2nd pick.
It seems like the #2 picks in draft are busts (Bias wasn't a bust but I'm just saying). Besides Ferry, Ryan Leaf, Shawn Bradley, Darko Milicic, Wayman Tisdale, Stromile Swift, Jason Williams
Grapes428 1 year ago
@Grapes428 Kevin Durant, Bob McAdoo, Isiah Thomas, Gary Payton, Alonzo Mourning, Jason Kidd, LeMarcus Aldridge, Evgeni Malkin, Marshall Faulk, Tony Boseilli, Donovan McNabb, Julius Peppers, Calvin Johnson, Jordan Staal, Eric Staal, Dany Heatley, Daniel Sedin, Chris Pronger, Brendan Shanahan, Justin Verlander all disagree
halokid26 1 year ago 2
@halokid26 Bill Russell, Joe Carter, Will Clark, Reggie Jackson, Tony Dorsett, Lawrence Taylor, Eric Dickerson, Randy White, Trevor Linden, Alexei Yashin.
idster7 1 year ago
@Grapes428 Jason Williams wasn't a bust either. He got injured. Lots of point guards struggle during their rookie year. Especially cause Bill Cartwright tried to put the triangle offense in....Other #2 busts: Johnny Lam Jones (over Anthony Munoz), Tony Mandarich (over Barry Sanders), Mark Merchant, Tyler Houston, Rick Mirer, Sam Bowie (over MJ).
idster7 1 year ago
So sad...
vaporize0033 2 years ago
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Ye must be born again. Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
dunhova 2 years ago
He would've learned so much from Larry Bird :(
Bias vs. Jordan in the early 1990s would've made basketball so much fun to watch. We would've had a run of EPIC Boston vs. Chicago playoff showdowns.
RySenkari 2 years ago 3
did larry bird end up going to rookie camp?
thegov08 2 years ago
and he was dead less than 2 days later, so sad
MrPresident2032 2 years ago
If Bias would have lived, I think that the 1987 Celtics would have been the first team to win 70+ games, and been considered the best ever. They would have repeated as champs over LA.
However, even with Bias, the Celtics still would have had their hands full with the Lakers, Pistons, Bulls, and Blazers in the coming years.
a7b7c78 2 years ago
that is an absolutely fucking ridiculous statement. len bias was not going to be an impact player as a rookie. he was going to be on the BENCH. he was not going to start over bird, mchale or parish. no player contributes 10 wins to a team coming off the bench. geez.
idster7 2 years ago
@idster7 I don't think that Bias would have sat on the bench as much as the year went on. That team was close to 70 wins the year before, and Bias's presence would have meant that Bird and McHale don't play too much and develop back and foot injuries. So, knowing that, 70 wins would have been very possible.
a7b7c78 2 years ago
you need to consider his indirect impact, noone is saying he'd start but having a quality player like that on the bench would have meant that bird and mchale would have more oppurtunities to rest, theyd have less injury problems that year and theyd have been available when the celts needed them
MrPresident2032 2 years ago
They were very HIGH on him, how strange were those comments from Aurbauch.
JeffTheFutureJaros 2 years ago
I still think jamarcus russel is a bigger bust
smoose8 2 years ago
i wouldn't call len bias a bust.
he never had a chance. and he would have been great to start with larry bird still on the team
slohurdler22 2 years ago
bias wasnt a bust you fool. a bust is someone who doesnt deliver on their hype because of dissapointing play, NOT because of an unplanned death, he died accidently, its a tragedy not a bust
MrPresident2032 2 years ago 25
...your dumb
smoose8 2 years ago
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botman4y2k 2 years ago
"He would have become a great player in the NBA...so sad he passed away "
It's possible, but not a guarantee. A lot of great college players have turned out to be disappointments once they entered the NBA. Not saying Len would have been a bust like Kwame Brown or anything like that, but other things could have gone wrong if he hadn't overdosed, such as injury, team chemistry, etc.
Droog13 2 years ago 2
Or he could've been one of the greatest of all-time.
JeffTheFutureJaros 2 years ago
Possibly, but then a lot of people said the same thing about Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway at one point. The world will never truly know.
Droog13 2 years ago
Damn...
xmuscularghandix 2 years ago
Len Bias had so much potential to be one of the greats in the NBA, since he overdosed he set the celtics back a whole decade
jgrimmel2006 2 years ago
This was just a shame, the guy couldn't stay away from drugs and ruined his career. Very sad, I wish he could play and we could see what potential he had because he surely had so much.
vidEvWill 2 years ago
but that night was his first time using drugs wasnt it?
pearlfection08 2 years ago
I wonder if the Celtics would have picked him if they knew he would overdose?
tigerwoods232000 2 years ago
Bias' death is the reason why the celtics where not a compeditor in the 90s...they had a great team in the 80s with bird, parrish, mchale and johnson, but they got old and bias should have been the first piece of a new generation to win titles in the 90s as well.
He would have become a great player in the NBA...so sad he passed away
bticket 2 years ago
The first time you mess with drugs could be your last. It was for Len Bias
Thule000 2 years ago 13
@Thule000
I doubt it was his first time. Let's be real here. Crack sucks. Whitney said it best crack is whack. For real. I think what killed Len was mixing high quality and alcohol. Crack itself is horrible but it becomes twice as deadly when you drink heavily.
kdj997 11 months ago
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Biggest bust of all time.
TehSamurai 2 years ago
Kid's, don't do drugs. Not even a taste...
DLeeTrois 2 years ago 3
Could you imagine... McHale pulling down the rebound, throwing the outlet to Dennis Johnson, passing to Bird on the wing, who then feeds Bias filling the lane for a monster jam.
So sad. Bias was a 6'8" Jordan with a better jump shot at that time.
TJagwar 2 years ago
i once heard dick vitale say that the closest thing he ever saw to jordan was len bias.
azbaldy5 2 years ago 2
coach k said the same thing.
idster7 2 years ago
as a celtics fan...you wonder what could have been. RIP Len Bias.
bayernmuenchen49 2 years ago 4
Bias was the best college player i have ever seen. watching this some 23 years later still tears me up.
bull864 2 years ago 3
R.I.P. Fritz Massmann
dddiop 2 years ago
To answer ryanjg34's question the Celtics obtained the second pick because they traded Gerald Henderson to the Seattle Supersonics in 1984 in exchange for their first round pick in the 86Draft. The Sonics posted one of the worst records in the 1985 season which elavated the Celtics pick to number 2 overall. Another Red Auerbach masterstroke, sadly it never paid off.
DKJSNA 2 years ago
why did you do coke len! why? it fucking killed you! man what a waste of talent and a waste of life
Gambino199 3 years ago
why did the Celtics have the #2 pick that year?
ryanjg34 3 years ago
The Celtics got the #2 pick following a trade w/ Seattle involving Gerald Henderson and cash two years prior.
TMC1982Part2 2 years ago
0:27 says it all, he was the best pure athlete in the draft. Faster than Daughtery, deadlier than Chuck Person....Celtics lost out on at least 3 more titles when he died.
KHayes666 3 years ago
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biggest bust of all time
elgrandecaudillo 3 years ago
bust? who the fuck are you talking about?
JLE102191 2 years ago
Len Bias
elgrandecaudillo 2 years ago
that is so sad, hearing how Red Auerbach praises Len Bias. I can't imagine how he felt after hearing about Len's death.
Frasure3000 3 years ago
Len Bias... Larry Bird... same time.
Wow, what a great moment that never was.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 3 years ago
That's just so weird to hear, everyone seemed to be so high on him yet he turned out to be one of the biggest tragedies in sports history. From what I've heard he was by far the best player at Maryland and one of the best ever in the ACC. Who knows what the Celtics would have been if he had been alive!
FSM2786 3 years ago
When I lived in DC I heard all sorts of rumors about Rayful Edmonds, the crack king of DC, being behind the Bias death. Just saying.
silverscreenname 3 years ago
Bias: "Need to work on my (8) ball handling"
Auerbach: "A lot of guys are high on him"
Eerie...
pearlmax 3 years ago
Len Bias was just as good as Michael Jordan.
RockyFC2008 3 years ago
yes he was people like the duke coach mike said tht he could of been better than jordan
bladingpro 3 years ago
better
tonyt55 3 years ago
len bias was great, but he was not fucking as good as michael jordan. i can guarantee you that they would never talk about michael jordan coming off the bench. those '86 celtics that bias was going to come off the bench for? jordan put 49 and 63 on them in the playoffs.
idster7 2 years ago
How can you even say that, when he never got to play an NBA game?
JeffTheFutureJaros 2 years ago
the same way these people think they can say he would've been as good as michael jordan, even though he never got to play an NBA game. read what i said. i was only contending with the assertion that len bias was going to be as great as michael jordan, which is ludacris. len bias was great. no question about it. best player in the draft, no question. but to say he was going to be as great as michael jordan? no way.
idster7 2 years ago
Well, in my opinion, we'll never know. & that's what's sad about the whole thing.
JeffTheFutureJaros 2 years ago
they won the championship the year before and they got the 2nd overal pick
henrymercy08 3 years ago
They won it that Year in 86'
ChadRB88 3 years ago
yea from the clippers
edge418 3 years ago
i mean sonics
edge418 3 years ago
this is so sad
wayne2166 3 years ago 2
Len Bias would have been a NBA SUPERSTAR!
1topdogg 3 years ago
Bias was a dunking version of Dale Ellis
scoobdoggydogg 3 years ago
@scoobdoggydogg I saw Dale Ellis play, and I saw Len Bias. I see absolutely no resemblance between the two.
idster7 1 year ago
Mann that suckss so badddd u diee 2 days after u get draftedd 2 nd overall by the celticss fuck we would have like 20 titlesss
KobeBrian3 3 years ago
Is your keyboard broken?
discolando 3 years ago
he did die 2 days after the draft. he had a cocane overdose
bladingpro 3 years ago
i same night he was drafted i think
tonyt55 3 years ago
For those of you who get NBATV, they are replaying the 1986 draft on Wednesday at 1pm eastern. It's good to see drafts when they actually happen because there is no 20/20 hindsight. This will the only time you will see Chris Washburn discussed in a positive way.
seeehorn 3 years ago
drugs
jmalone37 3 years ago
how did he die
brandondtheman 3 years ago
If he would have lived, I have no doubt he would surpassed Larry Bird
gobotzoo 3 years ago
..and Jordan & Magic & a lot of other legends. Food for thought: If Bias lived & the Celtic machine would've kept going, do you think Jordan would've only been known as a glorified ball-hog & dunk-a-holic who only cared about avg 30-40+ ppg instead of the greatest player ever w/ six rings? MJ would've been hard-pressed to win 1 title let alone 6.
powertrainz 3 years ago
The thing is you can never tell how a player is really gonna turn out.. he could've been like Michael Jordan, or he could've been like Darius Miles... with his abuse of drugs it most likely would've been the latter... Darius Miles was also regarded as one of the best forwards to come out of college btw...
nothing128 3 years ago
Yeah, those god-damned drugs what they can do to you. Guys like Roy Tarpley had potential but he got suspended for drugs 7-10 times & now he's banned forever from the NBA. It's possible the same thing could've happened to Bias if he survived the overdose & continued to take drugs. Shawn Kemp's another that let cocaine use ruin his career. Did Miles use drugs? Or did he just suck?
powertrainz 3 years ago
well knee surgery ended his career but he was looking like a bust anyway with only a few solid games under his belt...
nothing128 3 years ago
At least Shawn Kemp was an elite NBA player for several years. Weight problems also destroyed S.Kemp's career, in addition to the substance abuse.
Darius Miles sucked for a while, became a decent player in Portland, had a bad attitude, and now has a career-threatening injury!!
seeehorn 3 years ago
Miles was a good forward out of HIGH SCHOOL not college.Bias was a million times more prepared/talented than Miles.Bias would have to had injuries to end w/o a good career and with the Celtics it was a near perfect team to go to.Unlike the Clippers/Cavs/JailBlazers to start off with.
enwll3427 3 years ago
How dare you mention the Blazers along with the Cavs and Clippers.
pearlmax 3 years ago
shows how much you know..He came straight out of high school
xnorex111 2 years ago
1) you are wrong when you say you can never tell how a player is going to turn out. the people who say that are just covering up for the fact that they don't know what they were talking about. he was not going to be as great as jordan or as bad as miles. and darius miles didn't even go to college.
idster7 2 years ago
After watching some vids of Bias in college, he had the potential to be the greatest player in NBA history, much better than Jordan. He would've won multiple titles & Bird could've passed the torch to him & built a new dynasty but a few stupid snorts of cocaine right after the draft changed history forever & cursed the Celtics for 22 years until the 2008 title they just won.
powertrainz 3 years ago
lmao from watching videos in COLLEGE you could tell that somehow he would develope to be better then larry bird and michael jordan?? get real lol
nothing128 3 years ago 3
Had Bias lived, Bird was going to put him under his tutelage & groom him and give him the keys to the franchise after he, McHale & Parish retired. You're not going to become a complete player coming out of college, Jordan, Magic, Bird weren't. But he had amazing God-given talent that we'll never know what could've been. Is it safe to say that the real reason why Michael Jordan is the greatest player in history is b/c of the Bias tragedy?
powertrainz 3 years ago
no, it's not safe to say that. len bias was extremely talented. but michael jordan was a quantum leap above any other player in the world. you cannot project that a guy is going to be as good as michael jordan. he would've had to have jordan's work ethic, competitive drive, poise under pressure & comfort in the spotlight. and he didn't.
idster7 2 years ago
True...
cortezforever 2 years ago
Larry Bird was high on Len Bias. Funny becasue Lien Bias was high.
alblmfld 3 years ago
scoobdoggydogg, do you have the rest of the 1986 draft on tape? NBATV or ESPN Classic needs to show the 1986 draft again(and include Dennis Rodman being selected). NBATV showed this draft last year at 3 or 4 in the morning. I tried to tape it but NBATV didn't air it at the time they listed and they never replayed it.
I forgot to add Chuck Person to the list of excellent players in the 1986 draft, he was the 1986-1987 Rookie of the Year and had an outstanding NBA career.
seeehorn 3 years ago
note: Walton retired in 1987 and became who of the worst announcers in NBA's history while Robert Parish played another 10 years in the league. Robert Parish final season with the Chicago Bulls and got a ring. Roy Tarpley was a good player but he was lazy, fat and drug addict. William Bedford was a bust but he was a journeymen for 10 years. Dennis Rodman is the greatest rebounder and defender ever and a well known celebrity. Brad Daugherty had a nice career with the Cavs and is a NASCAR anaylst.
rays130226 3 years ago
Yes, either way the Celtics were doomed because William Bedford was their next choice.
scoobdoggydogg 3 years ago
The 1986 NBA Draft ended up being one of the most TRAGIC events in the history of sports and it started with Len Bias being picked. Some guys taken in the 1986 draft whose NBA careers/lives ended in chaos include Chris Washburn, William Bedford, Roy Tarpley, Pearl Washington, Walter Berry, and Baskerville Holmes.
The 1986 draft even gets bizzare because 2nd round pick DENNIS RODMAN ended up being the best NBA player in this draft. Mark Price, Ron Harper, and Brad Daugherty tie for 2nd.
seeehorn 3 years ago 2
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Wipe that grin off your face Red, Lakers are going to kick your ass in the finals so you can turn over in your grave..
Manglers27 3 years ago
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He looks like he may need some coke.
duke1rulez 3 years ago
dookie, you my friend, are a piece of shit.
Lydian13 3 years ago 7
so sad....
t33l0 3 years ago 2