You know? My High School doesn't even HAVE a Home Ec course! I REALLY wanted to take that course! I wish schools were still like this today! Nice and organized.
I'm so glad I took sewing in high school (graduated 1988), because my daughter can't find a modest homecoming dress. We are making one together from a vintage pattern. We made one last year which was absolutely gorgeous. She was the most beautiful girl next to all those girls wearing street walker dresses that showed TONS of cleavage and were cut up to mid thigh. Thank goodness my daughter has more taste and class than that!
@exavern1 You know what, they sound like they have Utah accents. The 1950's accent was more audibly different than today's, but the Utah accent is even more unusual. It has something to do with so many foreigners moving to SLC and blending accents. There is still a very distinct Utah accent. I wouldn't be surprised if this was filmed at BYU or someplace like that.
@randomransom4u Says the woman who is useless and can't do anything (like run an efficient household). Some countries offer master degrees in Family/Home Management. The U.N. just expanded it's world wide Home Economics program, stating that it is vital to developing nations. Yet in developed nations, women no longer have the basic skills of their mothers and grandmothers (and most women are still homemakers). What could be more important than raising your children? Money? Materialism? Suckers.
I'm really sorry they don't focus on this much anymore. I went to highschool in the seventies. Now that I've raised my family, I can think of a number of things that would be dynamite to teach related to home economics..like investing; balancing a career with a family; many things. Either way..above all--I think I'd emphasize most of all--please..don't get married until you either have a college degree, or a career in place. It'll pay you back many times over in the future.
This video is hilarious because when I was in Junior high and High school (late 80's early 90's) Even the most MASCULINE boys couldn't wait to take home ec! It was considered one of the most fun classes in my school! Why not? for 50 minutes we got to escape actual subjects with boring WORK like Math and History and instead sit in a kitchen making cakes and cookies while socializing and having fun the whole time! It was like like an escape from all the other boring classes!
I really hope home ec teaches Carol how to LOOK like a woman. In any event, I wish classes like this were compulsory for all students. Nobody doesn't need to know this stuff.
There's the bottom line. We all {both guys and girls} need to know how to clean, cook, sew {if only to mend and keep our clothes usable} and a lot of other things. And there's nothing wrong in wanting to learn how best to do these daily activities.
@gatsbysdead The internet? What's the internet got to do with teaching kids to keep house? That's why these kids today can't do anything today. To much damn computer and not enough practical learning. Time to start teaching them real life skills. Makes the 1950's look pretty good!
@Buffalobigboy69 They could read up on keeping house (or maybe watch these 50's movies on youtube to learn), and then practice what they've learned. There's not only one way to learn things, and us more tech savvy generations have no trouble whatsoever getting "real" life skills.
@widdlepuddyfat Your right, but i never said there isn't more then one way to learn stills. If you want to watch YouTube to learn to vacuum and dust. Go for it. My point was/is that home ec was a good thing to teach to middle and high school students. It teaches kids skills that are practical and that they will use everyday of there lives. And that's what schools need to do! I'm tired of people commenting that home ec was a joke or a waste of time. It wasn't. Taking trigonometry sure was!
"You need to realize that your first home may be a trailer"... yeah, and you need to realize that your last home may too... that may be as good as it gets!
Look, here was the reason to take "Home Economics" in the 70's. First the class was FULL of girls, second it was an EASY 'A'... Learning to cook very basic menus was sophomoric (yet some had no clue), sew a button- no problem. When I went to college in the 80's my University still had 'Home Economics" as a major, and a class called "Pots and Pans"- the school newspaper did an article of the 10 strangest classes... this one came near the top. Most of the girls were small town, and there to wed
And here's the deal about that - yes, Home Ec was derided even during my high school years in the '70s, but it teaches vital life skills. How many kids today can actually buy groceries? Pick out clothing that will last? Use products that really work (and learn to spot the ones that don't)? And, more to the point, learn to live within a budget? Or are they all bedazzled by packaging and drawn in by advertising catch phrases? My daughter is 26, and I wish she had taken Home Ec in school.
@dan1701a Are you kidding me? How many "kids" have do you actually know? My mom taught me most of how to socialize, cook, sew and clean. My father helped me learn to manage a budget and work hard. If your daughter can't do those things, chances are you were'nt doing your job as a parent and teaching essential skills.
I have been a homemaker for 28 years and love it. It has been very rewarding. Homemaking has more to it than what most people think. My husband and I have been married almost 30 years and have five grown children. I have people make fun of me, but that is alright. I'm happy. Thank you for sharing. :) (p.s. I wear kitchen aprons too. :)
OK ALL YOU BROADS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? YOU NEED TO BE IN THE KITCHEN MAKING A MEAL FOR YOU MAN BEFORE HE GETS HOME IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU. NOW LOG OFF THE COMPUTER NOW AND GET BUSY!
@canixican actually, im a man. and i find cooking fun and usefull. you will need to learn how to live on your own. Judging by the way you treat women you will be alone and living on crackhead noodles. Fuck off
This is a tragedy. These girls were part of the first wave of single moms. The ensuing generations, for the most part, were forced to work outside of the home for economic reasons. This is lack of choice at it's worst. Beyond that it is a form of brainwashing young women to think that was the only choice they had. I was fortunate to be born in a time where I assumed I would get a job and support myself.
Apart from all the sexist comments . . . the class does seem quite useful. I would take it. You could use it as an opportunity to teach feminism too and make sure its open to men and women.
I never did took H & E, but many of the work I assisted in High School did manage to help me be more self sufficient (I'm a guy). Its funny that my ex gf can't even cook or clean I had to do everything, all she did was just sit on the couch watching tv or the internet, no job and always complained about everything ( fixed that problem). Most people male/ female can't even pull any of this with out having someone else do it for them or buy premade. Our obese population is showing us that.
However good or poor this video is, the value of Home Economics, not just the teaching of the course, should be given due respect & recognition.
It seems that the attitude towards Home economics stems more from experiencing the subject with a good/bad teacher, the projects that were required or taught/not taught, and its apparent value more for women rather than for men.
To appreciate something, you need to fully understand that 'something' first; otherwise your just making empty assessment.
"You may not get married...not right away, at least. But you will get married. So help me god, I'll make sure you get married. I'll auction you off, if I have to. NONE OF MY STUDENTS WILL BE AN OLD MAID."
My grandmother took home economics in college, and when she graduated, she realized that she wasted 4 years of her life because she went on into business
I had to take something similar (though less informative) to this crap in high school (class of 08')...it was such a waste of time...esp. cooking. If you have a recipe book, you're set (only a moron can't follow a recipe) For everything else (*cough* internet *cough*)...Either way...I don't think I'll ever be a homemaker...lol
I wish I'd been taught some of the basics of cookery and knitting/sewing, instead of...and I kid you not...how to make nutritionally balanced flapjacks.
I may be living on my own, but I know I'll never starve on oat and raisin flapjacks! ....j/k...Thank god I learnt how to bake with my family and cook and sew by teaching myself. Food Technology is a total joke.
understood. I will never take home ec, so i wont get married. Oh well, hello my childre, to the world of a single parent. And lots of nieces and uncles and aunts and grandmas and...
At first this seems silly. If you pay attention though, this should be required in high school, far and above ridiculously useless things like "multicultural studies."
Brilliant. Unfortunately, Home Ec is a dying art--most people don't learn how to cook or manage money, which has caused many of today's problems. In my school (early '70s) both boys and girls learned how to cook and use a sewing machine--and both took shop classes as well.
Classes should show how important it is to have one parent working while the other parent stays home. Day care centers CANNOT replace or come close to the love of a parent and why should grandparents raise their grandchildren?
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What, What?!! Are you some kind of crazy wacked- out communist or something?! Women can't be so oppressed...we're a progressive society; women were meant to have a high-paying salary and a sleek Mercedes and a credit card to break the intolerable shackels of repressive submission to a man and her children!! Long live microwave dinners, daycare centers, and the perfected public school system! You Communist!!
Why are you so hostile?How you equate communism with one parent staying at home raising their children & not shoving the responsibility onto someone else is unclear.Once someone has a child, their WANTS become 2nd to the NEEDS of that child.You are a self absorbed career woman who believes a "day care center is just as good as being at home." But, in your case, your kids (if you have any & I pray you don't) might be better off in an understaffed, overworked daycare center than with you all day.
Well put! Feminism is so mainstream that "modern" women see me as foolish that I threw my career away & volunteered to be a "doormat". Don't I understand that it's degrading, I'm a throwback? It's sad because that debate is considered over in a lot of minds, it's stamped SOLD. I'm thought of as backwards, an embarrassment in the minds of most typical everyday women. But the fact is everyday women these days are an embarrassment to me. I have to look to women of the past for my role models.
You can ALWAYS get another job & go back to work, but you can NEVER get back that time lost while your child sat in an understaffed day care center crying for you! I commend you for choosing a full time parent w/o a job outside the home & NOT a part time parent w/ a full time job. Someday your children will too!
Right!! My mother used to say, "Don't let your mind become so open that your brains fall out!" Ladies better remember that those influencing them in feminist thinking, whether it's their favorite Hollywood star, an author, or just someone they admire, they're not accountable for how your life turns out, if your home is intact, how well your children are raised, YOU ARE. I used to trust the "wisdom" of their words too...gag. But I learned the truth & turned it around...hopefully in time. :-)
And I'm not saying a woman can't have a career. If she wants one, fine. Maybe the husband could stay home w/ the kids. But if you both want to work, don't have the kids & if you can't afford to both not work, don't have kids or make sacrifices so that one of you CAN stay home. Its really quite simple.
I agree, partly. Moms & Dads are equally important but not equal. We're made differently, we contribute differently in the raising of kids. Not to spark a debate but I believe God did not make us the least bit interchangeable. Switching roles in an emergency is fine but long term reversing roles? Smacks of a social experiment, new age stuff, and why mess with your child's normal development? And parents miss out on things that are uniquely suited to fulfill them and make them whole too.
What I'm saying is that one parent staying at home is better than 2 working w/ a child in a day care or being shoved off onto gramma to raise. A father's roll is just as important as a mom's.
Any person who wants THE BEST for their child will decide that one parent will stay home & one will work. Being raised by a parent who loves the child is BETTER than an overworked, underpaid day care staff member. It is absolutely needed.
so your basically saying that my parents didn't want the best for me? Sometimes it is nessicary for both parents to work. But let me assure you. We had a woman who came in and minded us when we came home from school and during the day when I was a baby. She was the nicest woman ever and we still consider her to be a second mother. We are still in contact with her.
So please don't condem those who didnt want the 'best' for their child. Its not always possible.
I don't care how "nice" someone is, they are not as good as a parent staying home & raising a child. Parents need to make sacrifices so that one can stay home & anyone who wants the best for their child will do that or they will not have children that they can't afford. Pretty simple really.
my parents raised me and my siblings at weekends, before school, from 5 onwards and holidays. If one were sick one would stay home.
The fact is that i am no worse off because one parent did not stay home full time. And i'll have you know, we were darn lucky to get a woman like we did. It is not always an option to have one stay home parent. Parents make sacrifices every day, but by workin you can provide for the family. So if there is no money, there wont be anything to raise the child with.
It is always an option for parents to make the necessary sacrifices to stay home and raise their children. If a man and woman can't afford to have one stay home and raise their children, which is the BEST thing for their children, then they shouldn't have them. I can't believe you think the part time parenting you described is good. I think given the choice between that & being parented full time by your parents, you would have chosen being parented full time by your mom and dad, who wouldn't?
from the age of 4, i went to school from 9 am until 2.10 at the very least, and i was the youngest of 4. Our parents returned home from work at half 4 or 5.
Yes i feel i was so deprived from being with my parents for those few hours...
with both my parents working I was able to get a better life because of their salaries. Its surely not a horrific childhood? And no I loved having my minder there, I was so sad when she stopped minding us.
How sad you feel that money gave you a better life & not time spent bonding w/ your parents. Further it is sad that you mention that you were sad when your minder stopped watching you yet you say nothing about missing your parents when they were gone. Interesting. BTW, I'm not talking about parents working the same hrs. that children are in school. I'm talking about parents working when they should be bonding w/ their children.
oh for crying out loud. why does anyone with kids work at all! sure we can all just live off the dole and bond the whole time.
It is just not practical. What do you mean parents gone? I had barely my dinner eaten before they came home. I think our situation worked extremely well. Would you prefer people did not work?
Had barely eaten your dinner before they came home? So you didn't even eat dinner as a family w/ your parents? That's fantastic. Stop taking what I'm saying out of context. When did I say go on welfare? This is what I'm saying: If you can't afford to have one parent stay home while the other works to support the family, DON'T HAVE KIDS because puting them in day care or some other child care situation is not what's best for them or the parent for that matter. Good bye and good luck to you.
Children are not created to be born & then thrown into understaffed daycare centers or worse, dumped off to be raised by their grandparents. If you can't afford to have one parent stay at home & raise the children, DON'T HAVE THEM, unless of course,you want them to have a 2nd rate childhood. Then by all means, reproduce, work full time & parent part time while someone who can't possibly care about your child like they should raises them for you. Good bye & good luck, "LittlePinky82"!
@justlisten67 Sorry hon that not everybody in this world can live like you can and afford to. Some families have bills to pay and education to pay for. I know plenty of parents who have young children and work and they have a great relationship. Fuck off bitch.
Since your parents never bothered to tell you this, I will, Its not nice to swear like you did in that last post. Try to behave like a polite,mature adult in your posts, ok? I know you have no defense so that is why you are resorting to such behavior. Try something like this: Good bye & good luck.
You don't get it. Its not about being rich. Its about saying, "I can't afford to give a child a stay @ home parent, so I won't have one." That's it. & you're Wrong for assuming I am rich. My husband is 100%disabled & can't work b/c of a nuerological disease so I work full & part time jobs to pay our bills & save for retirement. We have no children b/c it WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO bring a child into a situation like this.
@justlisten67 Hon you don't get it. Not everyone is like you. I have lots of friends who have children and work. You're talking about being polite and shit and then you turn around and are judgmental and pretty much acting like a damn fascists wanting everyone to behave just like you. Sorry hon it's not reality. Get over it. This is the 21st century. I can be a mother and head of the FBI someday if I want to. Fuck you.
Why are you so hostile? There is no need to reduce yourself to cursing even when you have nothing intelligent to say regarding an issue. I'm sure your parents or children would be so proud to see such foul language like that in your messages. People who care about their kids will not have more than they can afford & make sure that one parent can stay home to raise them.
@justlisten67 Oh wah. Get over the language. It's the 21st century. Sorry hon we don't live in the 1950s anymore. My family is proud of me because of my actions and deeds and values. If when I want to have children whomever I'm married to we both want to work then that's what WE decide. Not you holier than thou asshole. As I said if I want to be head of the FBI and a mother I will. Fuck you.
Again, why are you so hostile & clean up your language. I don't care if its the 21st century. Right is right & wrong is wrong~it doesn't matter what the year is. You're missing my point any way. Parents who want the best for their children will have as many as they like & can afford while one stays at home & the other works. Your parents may be proud of your actions & deeds, but probably not your foul language. Good attempt at trying to make a point that wasn't related to what I said. Goodbye.
@justlisten67 Oh get over yourself. You don't know me or any of my friends who are parents and both work. As I've said before fuck you. You're a holier than thou asshole. Get over it.
No, not holier than thou, I just speak up when I need to & I do it with more grace than you. I don't need to know your friends who work. So YOU give it up, get over it & grow up while you're at it. Enough of your pointless, posts. You don't understand what I'm saying so we have nothing further to discuss. Listen carefully here...GOODBYE.
@justlisten67 Hmm if it's so pointless why do you keep posting? Obviously not. And do you know what holier than thou means? It means you think your ways are better than everyone else's which is clearly what you've demonstrated in your postings. You think every woman should behave like you and stay home and cook and clean all day and not have a job of her own. Sorry hon but this is the 21st century and women have that liberation. As I said I can be a mother and head of the FBI if I want to.
I keep posting because I enjoy pointing out that I value children (who can't always speak for themselves) & what is best for them & you DON'T. BTW, I never said a women should stay home, I said one parent should. Go ahead be the head of the FBI & a mother, but your children will suffer for it.
@justlisten67 How the fuck do you know any children I bring into this world would suffer for it? Who the hell are you to say that pathetic shit? I have lots of friends who have both parents work and they turned out to be fine people who I am glad to know. Maybe their parents had dreams and wishes they wanted to go after too. You don't value children at all. That's a lie. You value your fantasy world where every woman is like you. I know I'll make my family proud of whatever I do. Fuck you.
@justlisten67 Do it with more grace? HA now that's hilarious. It's not very graceful to say every woman should be like you. No that's SELFISH and pathetic and far from being graceful. You can have your pretty words all day long but in the end your thoughts are disgusting. I want every woman to make her own decisions what's best for their family while you already have the decision made for some woman you know NOTHING about. That's not graceful at all.
@justlisten67 Oh and there you go again being not graceful. Just because I have a different opinion, which is allowed last time I checked, does not mean I don't understand. It means I think you're wrong. Period. I'm a 27 yr old college educated woman. I know English, Japanese, Korean and Spanish languages. I'm very well educated. So no hon I do understand. You just need to get over the fact that I am the type of woman who wants every woman to make her own decisions. You made yours. Let others.
Grace refers to how people respond in situations not where they stand on issues. I am unimpressed w/the languages you say you know. I imagine you curse in those languages too. You don't understand what I'm saying so stop wasting my time.
@justlisten67 If I'm oh so wasting your time why do you keep replying? I guess not that much time eh? And grace has shit to do with language a lone. Your thoughts are selfish and that is not graceful. You think every woman should make decisions like you. That's pathetic and childish. Every woman and every family can make their OWN decisions. You made yours now learn to live with the fact that other people make their's. Who made you the moral police?
I want what is best for children, you want what self absorbed feminazis want. Throw children aside and forge ahead, sacrificing the basic needs of a child, a loving home w/ a present paren. As I said, I keep posting to show that I care about children and you don't. So say good bye & stop posting. You DON'T UNDERSTAND.
@justlisten67 Ah I see. So me wanting to provide for any children and follow my dreams too is now Nazism? Lol wow what a strect that one is! You're the one who is more like Nazism wanting every woman to just be a baby factory. They actually did that you know. You care about children? How? You want a child to possibly grow up in poverty? Not have health care? Pathetic.
Listen up & maybe you will understand this time. A family should not have more children than they can afford while one parent stays home to raise them. That doesn't mean that the woman is a baby factory & that they grow up in poverty. Quite the opposite. Case closed. If I'm such a boob, stop responding to my posts. GOOD BYE.
@justlisten67 Hahahahahaha! Oh now that's funny. I've known parents who in no way planned their pregnancies. In fact I know two couples in that situation. They both are young and had only been married a few months and the wife got pregnant. So sorry hon but what you're spewing is not realistic. And yes that does mean the woman is a baby factory. And what do you say about single mother's? They don't have the luxury of staying home. I keep responding cause you're hilarious.
@justlisten67 Why do you keep saying good bye if you keep responding? Just you keep going on being a hypocrite. If you truly were saying a good bye you wouldn't have responded now three or four times. GET OVER the fact that not every family is like yours or wants to be. WE can make the decisions. Not you. You have NO authority. Pathetic.
Hi justlisten67, just reading some of this exchange here and have to stand up and applaud you! Of course I believe you're right as rain and your responses are well worded and you kept your dignity, bravo.
Louise35 Thank you so much! It's good to hear from you again! I just got tired of responding to her repetetive, foul mouthed, pointless dribble. She doesn't understand that I "am over" the fact that everyone doesn't live like me but I will never get over the fact that some think an understaffed, underpaid daycare center is just as good as a stay at home parent. Thank you for your kind words! All the best to you & your family!
Her replies were so off balance from yours, nothing you said warranted her hostility which you gotta wonder what the root of her issue really is. It was interesting to watch how your calm well-informed replies sent her clean over the edge like that! Wow.
@louiseb35 What? Really? You have to wonder what the root of her issue is?
Justlisten67, a total stranger who doesn't know the specifics of her life, is telling her that her method of parenting is wrong and selfish, and that her children will be worse off because of it. Even if hostility isn't warranted, can't you at least see how that could be interpreted as an attack?
@Zekkron People like justlisten67 & me believe that ALL children are our most precious of creations. If you don't accept that premise then this post will be pointless. I don't have to know a person or the specifics of their life to see the value of their children. When children are not a parent's priority, it is a wrong against the child. It doesn't make it less of a wrong simply because feminism made boarding our children like dogs appear normal and healthy and popular. It's still wrong.
@justlisten67 Once again you're pathetic in keeping on insulting me saying I don't understand. If I don't understand why don't you explain? Because you know damn well I do understand. You think every family should have the mother stay home and take care of the home. Sorry hon but not every family is like that and can even afford to be like that. Just get over it and get over the fact you are NOT graceful. You're pathetic thinking every woman has to be like you. Grace is more than pretty words.
@justlisten67 Oh and no hon grace is more than just how they respond. It's the bigger picture. Your grace is not there at all. You don't care about the children. You don't care about other women. You care about YOUR fantasy world where every woman is stuck in the 1950s or below. That is not grace. So get off that shit. Oh and as they say in Japanese you're a baka.
@justlisten67 Oh and some women like myself want to have careers and are passionate about our fields not to make money or anything but because we love what we do. I'm a criminal justice major and I love my major and am passionate about it. I deserve to be able to follow ALL of my dreams and how dare someone else insult that like you have. I have not insulted your dreams at all and what you wanted to do. Once again showing how you are NOT graceful.
@justlisten67 Oh and with my field of criminal justice I may save plenty of mothers out there who their children need. I may save a child out there who needs their mother. So sad you have such a pathetic 1950s world view. I'm just glad that no matter what I'm going to keep going after ALL of my dreams and no nobody on the internet will stop that.
@justlisten67 Oh and since you admitted you don't have children why the fuck are you judging people who do and make decisions that's best for THEIR families? *rolls eyes*
Again, YOU don't get it. Adults need to consider what's BEST FOR CHILDREN. Just b/c I don't have kids doesn't mean I shut my eyes to issues about them. I don't have cancer but I still donate to cancer research. I am commenting on this b/c I CARE ABOUT CHILDREN & I want what's best for them. BTW, being polite & pointing out that someone is wrong about something aren't the same things. So AGAIN, I sign off being the bigger person saying, good bye & good luck to you.
@justlisten67 No you aren't the bigger person. You think your life is what everyone else should do. Sorry hon not what happens in the real world of the 21st century. If I want to be head of the FBI and a mother I can. Fuck you.
My philosophy is this: the women's movement gave me the choice to be a homemaker or a working mom or to not marry or have children. I can do whatever I like. I don't HAVE to be a homemaker and I don't HAVE to be a woman with a job. I can be married or single or with a same sex partner. I can choose to have children or not. My choice to be a homemaker is just as big a symbol of Feminism as if I chose to be single and be a big time exec.
Nobody's out to take choices away, pick whatever lifestyle you think is best for you, I would argue though that when kids enter the picture they need their mother, not some daycare. But homemaker symbolic of feminism? My role as housewife is routinely distorted & denigrated. Same goes for traditional fatherhood. Perhaps when you saw the word 'housewife' you were repulsed, feminism imposed that on me. I know they're wrong & mine is the most honorable 'occupation' a woman can possibly have.
I took a home-ec type class when I was in 6th grade. It was called ''Life Skills''. It was actually a requirement for my Middle School at the time to take that course.
@hicktownwoman I didn't say "home ec", I said "a class like this". My home economics class was retarded, and didn't teach half the things this class taught.
This is THE most sexist education video I've seen EVER! And little do they know that a couple decades later will come the second wave of feminism, making it possible to become a doctor, lawyer, graphic designer, screenwriter, etc.
However, being a house husband could have its perks as long as one isn't forced into it now that I think of it. LOL, I'm actually close to one already. I cook for my family, I do some of the chores, I shop for food, it could work.
Well, from reading books, supposedly, guys now take Home Economics, but as it said in the classic book Space Station Seventh Grade, why don't they teach girls how to mend a tire or build a treehouse?
We still had Home Economics when I was in high school (1975-79) and I loved the class. We learned to sew and cook, among other things. I think it is sad that they have been completely removed from high school curriculum
Every middle school I've ever seen has a 9 wk requirement of home ect, for boys and girls. In addition there was a 1 semester optional class for 7th graders and a year long course for 8th graders. My school offers a 3 year cooking academy where students eventually get to be assistant to a chef. Were there any guys in your home ec class?
You know? My High School doesn't even HAVE a Home Ec course! I REALLY wanted to take that course! I wish schools were still like this today! Nice and organized.
thebradybunchlover 3 weeks ago
Back in the wonderful times before Cyriak came to rape the world.
sladikk 2 months ago 3
its no wonder society was so repressed, teaching implies one way for all these things- these things being most of the aspects of daily life
959chris 3 months ago
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959chris 3 months ago
This video makes me proud to be a Family and Consumer Sciences major :)
TheChannelofRassilon 3 months ago
This video has forever been corrupted by Cyriak.
UltimateJasper 3 months ago 6
I'm so glad I took sewing in high school (graduated 1988), because my daughter can't find a modest homecoming dress. We are making one together from a vintage pattern. We made one last year which was absolutely gorgeous. She was the most beautiful girl next to all those girls wearing street walker dresses that showed TONS of cleavage and were cut up to mid thigh. Thank goodness my daughter has more taste and class than that!
jenisacutiepie 3 months ago
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jenisacutiepie 3 months ago
they sound weird
exavern1 4 months ago
@exavern1 You know what, they sound like they have Utah accents. The 1950's accent was more audibly different than today's, but the Utah accent is even more unusual. It has something to do with so many foreigners moving to SLC and blending accents. There is still a very distinct Utah accent. I wouldn't be surprised if this was filmed at BYU or someplace like that.
jenisacutiepie 3 months ago
@jenisacutiepie
like other centron shorts, this was filmed in lawrence kansas, home of the beakers
nomadcowatbk 2 weeks ago
cyriak.
theetruegamer1 4 months ago
cyriak version has best quality
Brunn0121 4 months ago
This is SO SEXIST D:
randomransom4u 5 months ago in playlist 1950's housewife
@randomransom4u Says the woman who is useless and can't do anything (like run an efficient household). Some countries offer master degrees in Family/Home Management. The U.N. just expanded it's world wide Home Economics program, stating that it is vital to developing nations. Yet in developed nations, women no longer have the basic skills of their mothers and grandmothers (and most women are still homemakers). What could be more important than raising your children? Money? Materialism? Suckers.
FazopTheWizard 5 months ago
lol cyriak
cyclejunkie 5 months ago 3
Why aren't they have extensible head? :(
Parkjimin950521 5 months ago
I also had home ec when I was in school back in the 70's. We just basically learned how to cook and sew. (I wasn't good at sewing anyway.)
Although I never got married and had kids, I still had to learn how to cook and sew.
nanlisa 5 months ago
I'm really sorry they don't focus on this much anymore. I went to highschool in the seventies. Now that I've raised my family, I can think of a number of things that would be dynamite to teach related to home economics..like investing; balancing a career with a family; many things. Either way..above all--I think I'd emphasize most of all--please..don't get married until you either have a college degree, or a career in place. It'll pay you back many times over in the future.
Charmg313 6 months ago
Those sure are some boyish looking girls.
LucindaMorde 6 months ago 2
This video is hilarious because when I was in Junior high and High school (late 80's early 90's) Even the most MASCULINE boys couldn't wait to take home ec! It was considered one of the most fun classes in my school! Why not? for 50 minutes we got to escape actual subjects with boring WORK like Math and History and instead sit in a kitchen making cakes and cookies while socializing and having fun the whole time! It was like like an escape from all the other boring classes!
Mysterycat74 6 months ago
Wait, a female teaching college level bacteriology in the 50s? That's quite a stereotype breaker.
corvus13 7 months ago
women were not as unequal as I thought in the 1950's
Miikaika25 7 months ago
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Thumbs up if you came here from Cyriak
TheGordonBrothers 7 months ago
Is Edna A Hill still teaching Home Ec at KU?
nomadcowatbk 7 months ago
wouldn't it be hilarious if carol died in a car crash when janice got home?
she'd be disapointed she coulden't tell her about the world of economics her little 1950s mind would be crushed
Plexuz0 7 months ago
@Plexuz0 Dude, that's sick!
Buffalobigboy69 6 months ago
I really hope home ec teaches Carol how to LOOK like a woman. In any event, I wish classes like this were compulsory for all students. Nobody doesn't need to know this stuff.
RioMadeira 7 months ago
i can't get cyriak's video out of my head while i watched this. too. much. spinning. heads.
deadbutler 8 months ago
There's the bottom line. We all {both guys and girls} need to know how to clean, cook, sew {if only to mend and keep our clothes usable} and a lot of other things. And there's nothing wrong in wanting to learn how best to do these daily activities.
Buffalobigboy69 8 months ago
@Buffalobigboy69 that's why they have the internet.
gatsbysdead 8 months ago
@gatsbysdead The internet? What's the internet got to do with teaching kids to keep house? That's why these kids today can't do anything today. To much damn computer and not enough practical learning. Time to start teaching them real life skills. Makes the 1950's look pretty good!
Buffalobigboy69 7 months ago
@Buffalobigboy69 They could read up on keeping house (or maybe watch these 50's movies on youtube to learn), and then practice what they've learned. There's not only one way to learn things, and us more tech savvy generations have no trouble whatsoever getting "real" life skills.
widdlepuddyfat 6 months ago
@widdlepuddyfat Your right, but i never said there isn't more then one way to learn stills. If you want to watch YouTube to learn to vacuum and dust. Go for it. My point was/is that home ec was a good thing to teach to middle and high school students. It teaches kids skills that are practical and that they will use everyday of there lives. And that's what schools need to do! I'm tired of people commenting that home ec was a joke or a waste of time. It wasn't. Taking trigonometry sure was!
Buffalobigboy69 6 months ago
"You need to realize that your first home may be a trailer"... yeah, and you need to realize that your last home may too... that may be as good as it gets!
angurisloud 9 months ago 2
Look, here was the reason to take "Home Economics" in the 70's. First the class was FULL of girls, second it was an EASY 'A'... Learning to cook very basic menus was sophomoric (yet some had no clue), sew a button- no problem. When I went to college in the 80's my University still had 'Home Economics" as a major, and a class called "Pots and Pans"- the school newspaper did an article of the 10 strangest classes... this one came near the top. Most of the girls were small town, and there to wed
angurisloud 9 months ago
Something ;)
aroston 9 months ago
Cyriak ftw
DotisticKyon 9 months ago
repent to Jesus, Jesus loves you
bass109 11 months ago
And here's the deal about that - yes, Home Ec was derided even during my high school years in the '70s, but it teaches vital life skills. How many kids today can actually buy groceries? Pick out clothing that will last? Use products that really work (and learn to spot the ones that don't)? And, more to the point, learn to live within a budget? Or are they all bedazzled by packaging and drawn in by advertising catch phrases? My daughter is 26, and I wish she had taken Home Ec in school.
dan1701a 11 months ago
@dan1701a Are you kidding me? How many "kids" have do you actually know? My mom taught me most of how to socialize, cook, sew and clean. My father helped me learn to manage a budget and work hard. If your daughter can't do those things, chances are you were'nt doing your job as a parent and teaching essential skills.
widdlepuddyfat 6 months ago
@widdlepuddyfat Some of our parents had to work (ok, not my mum but in her defence she was probably an undiagnosed mentally ill person).
candistyx 3 weeks ago
I have been a homemaker for 28 years and love it. It has been very rewarding. Homemaking has more to it than what most people think. My husband and I have been married almost 30 years and have five grown children. I have people make fun of me, but that is alright. I'm happy. Thank you for sharing. :) (p.s. I wear kitchen aprons too. :)
bgentlekind 11 months ago
Only watched this because of Cyriak
darkinblade 1 year ago
OK ALL YOU BROADS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? YOU NEED TO BE IN THE KITCHEN MAKING A MEAL FOR YOU MAN BEFORE HE GETS HOME IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU. NOW LOG OFF THE COMPUTER NOW AND GET BUSY!
canixican 1 year ago
@canixican actually, im a man. and i find cooking fun and usefull. you will need to learn how to live on your own. Judging by the way you treat women you will be alone and living on crackhead noodles. Fuck off
kaplana1234 1 year ago
Judging from the acting, I think they should plan to take theater courses instead.
6motion6 1 year ago
Cyriak made this look awesome.
PresidentLucario 1 year ago
Thumbs up if cyriak brought you here.
TwosComplement 1 year ago 28
Something.
onlynicc16 1 year ago
@onlynicc16 :D
UmbreonRomReviews 1 year ago
cyriak was here
;)
UmbreonRomReviews 1 year ago 40
@UmbreonRomReviews EXACTLY
Technos72 2 months ago
This is a tragedy. These girls were part of the first wave of single moms. The ensuing generations, for the most part, were forced to work outside of the home for economic reasons. This is lack of choice at it's worst. Beyond that it is a form of brainwashing young women to think that was the only choice they had. I was fortunate to be born in a time where I assumed I would get a job and support myself.
theraviolicat 1 year ago
Apart from all the sexist comments . . . the class does seem quite useful. I would take it. You could use it as an opportunity to teach feminism too and make sure its open to men and women.
WorldComposer 1 year ago
I never did took H & E, but many of the work I assisted in High School did manage to help me be more self sufficient (I'm a guy). Its funny that my ex gf can't even cook or clean I had to do everything, all she did was just sit on the couch watching tv or the internet, no job and always complained about everything ( fixed that problem). Most people male/ female can't even pull any of this with out having someone else do it for them or buy premade. Our obese population is showing us that.
Jayc2400 1 year ago 3
That guy in the striped shirt has a really high voice.
LivingMindfully1975 1 year ago
I suppose I could be wrong, but I have the feeling that all these opportunities for Home Economics college graduates were bullshit.
CharlesSavardDaigle 1 year ago
we called it Independent Living in 1980 and there were more boys in class than girls!
rene1369 1 year ago
lol, the science of fabric
Newlyandjoy 1 year ago
Nutritive!
BaronVonLethal 1 year ago
However good or poor this video is, the value of Home Economics, not just the teaching of the course, should be given due respect & recognition.
It seems that the attitude towards Home economics stems more from experiencing the subject with a good/bad teacher, the projects that were required or taught/not taught, and its apparent value more for women rather than for men.
To appreciate something, you need to fully understand that 'something' first; otherwise your just making empty assessment.
jrbantang 1 year ago
These two aren't very attractive and those accents - yikes!
NoCableForMe 1 year ago
@NoCableForMe I thought they were boys!
qwertasdcfghjklmo24z 1 year ago 4
"You may not get married...not right away, at least. But you will get married. So help me god, I'll make sure you get married. I'll auction you off, if I have to. NONE OF MY STUDENTS WILL BE AN OLD MAID."
electrogeek77 1 year ago 3
In all fairness, there ARE guys in the home ec class!
mf2101 1 year ago
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mf2101 1 year ago
My grandmother took home economics in college, and when she graduated, she realized that she wasted 4 years of her life because she went on into business
IwillKillYourCereal 1 year ago
back when a family didn't need 2 incomes to survive.....wow....
IwillKillYourCereal 1 year ago
I had to take something similar (though less informative) to this crap in high school (class of 08')...it was such a waste of time...esp. cooking. If you have a recipe book, you're set (only a moron can't follow a recipe) For everything else (*cough* internet *cough*)...Either way...I don't think I'll ever be a homemaker...lol
gothbaby6 1 year ago
I wish I'd been taught some of the basics of cookery and knitting/sewing, instead of...and I kid you not...how to make nutritionally balanced flapjacks.
I may be living on my own, but I know I'll never starve on oat and raisin flapjacks! ....j/k...Thank god I learnt how to bake with my family and cook and sew by teaching myself. Food Technology is a total joke.
MilesStauffe 1 year ago
instead of home ect at my school they teach culenary arts. >.>
BenBenBen46 1 year ago
What a wonderful world we used to have, sometimes I wish I had a time machine.
ooonurse33 1 year ago
understood. I will never take home ec, so i wont get married. Oh well, hello my childre, to the world of a single parent. And lots of nieces and uncles and aunts and grandmas and...
knepri 2 years ago
By golly, now I want to study Home Ec!
LazloLozlaenQro 2 years ago
At first this seems silly. If you pay attention though, this should be required in high school, far and above ridiculously useless things like "multicultural studies."
theloniousMac 2 years ago
your first home may be a trailer?
theloniousMac 2 years ago
Miss Jenkins is one annoying, patronizing broad!
somersetdc 2 years ago
Janie looks like a dude in a skirt.
ihatetaft 2 years ago 2
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ihatetaft 2 years ago
MECHANICAL CHUCKLES!!
HandyMandy52 2 years ago
Home Economoics is the worst subject... My opinion... Plus the teachers really suck... and they are unfair..
What happened to me...
ThisIsSmella 2 years ago
wow!! families actually eating together ...miss that:(
scaramoochscaramooch 2 years ago 6
I wish I would have taken home ec, I would have loved it.
Micheller1210 2 years ago 3
Brilliant. Unfortunately, Home Ec is a dying art--most people don't learn how to cook or manage money, which has caused many of today's problems. In my school (early '70s) both boys and girls learned how to cook and use a sewing machine--and both took shop classes as well.
sshare 2 years ago 7
I took Food and Textile classes but they weren't this detailed. Wish they had been.
wishingstar22 2 years ago 4
Classes should show how important it is to have one parent working while the other parent stays home. Day care centers CANNOT replace or come close to the love of a parent and why should grandparents raise their grandchildren?
justlisten67 2 years ago 12
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What, What?!! Are you some kind of crazy wacked- out communist or something?! Women can't be so oppressed...we're a progressive society; women were meant to have a high-paying salary and a sleek Mercedes and a credit card to break the intolerable shackels of repressive submission to a man and her children!! Long live microwave dinners, daycare centers, and the perfected public school system! You Communist!!
rezek71 2 years ago
Why are you so hostile?How you equate communism with one parent staying at home raising their children & not shoving the responsibility onto someone else is unclear.Once someone has a child, their WANTS become 2nd to the NEEDS of that child.You are a self absorbed career woman who believes a "day care center is just as good as being at home." But, in your case, your kids (if you have any & I pray you don't) might be better off in an understaffed, overworked daycare center than with you all day.
justlisten67 2 years ago
Well put! Feminism is so mainstream that "modern" women see me as foolish that I threw my career away & volunteered to be a "doormat". Don't I understand that it's degrading, I'm a throwback? It's sad because that debate is considered over in a lot of minds, it's stamped SOLD. I'm thought of as backwards, an embarrassment in the minds of most typical everyday women. But the fact is everyday women these days are an embarrassment to me. I have to look to women of the past for my role models.
louiseb35 2 years ago 12
You can ALWAYS get another job & go back to work, but you can NEVER get back that time lost while your child sat in an understaffed day care center crying for you! I commend you for choosing a full time parent w/o a job outside the home & NOT a part time parent w/ a full time job. Someday your children will too!
justlisten67 2 years ago
Right!! My mother used to say, "Don't let your mind become so open that your brains fall out!" Ladies better remember that those influencing them in feminist thinking, whether it's their favorite Hollywood star, an author, or just someone they admire, they're not accountable for how your life turns out, if your home is intact, how well your children are raised, YOU ARE. I used to trust the "wisdom" of their words too...gag. But I learned the truth & turned it around...hopefully in time. :-)
louiseb35 2 years ago
And I'm not saying a woman can't have a career. If she wants one, fine. Maybe the husband could stay home w/ the kids. But if you both want to work, don't have the kids & if you can't afford to both not work, don't have kids or make sacrifices so that one of you CAN stay home. Its really quite simple.
justlisten67 2 years ago
I agree, partly. Moms & Dads are equally important but not equal. We're made differently, we contribute differently in the raising of kids. Not to spark a debate but I believe God did not make us the least bit interchangeable. Switching roles in an emergency is fine but long term reversing roles? Smacks of a social experiment, new age stuff, and why mess with your child's normal development? And parents miss out on things that are uniquely suited to fulfill them and make them whole too.
louiseb35 2 years ago
What I'm saying is that one parent staying at home is better than 2 working w/ a child in a day care or being shoved off onto gramma to raise. A father's roll is just as important as a mom's.
justlisten67 2 years ago
but why does it have to be the mother to 'rescue' the child from this hell hole of a day care centre? why not the husband?
Orlabobz 2 years ago
it doesn't have to be the mother. One parent needs to stay home w/ the child & the other one can be the provider.
justlisten67 2 years ago
i dont think thats absolutely needed.
Orlabobz 2 years ago
Any person who wants THE BEST for their child will decide that one parent will stay home & one will work. Being raised by a parent who loves the child is BETTER than an overworked, underpaid day care staff member. It is absolutely needed.
justlisten67 2 years ago
so your basically saying that my parents didn't want the best for me? Sometimes it is nessicary for both parents to work. But let me assure you. We had a woman who came in and minded us when we came home from school and during the day when I was a baby. She was the nicest woman ever and we still consider her to be a second mother. We are still in contact with her.
So please don't condem those who didnt want the 'best' for their child. Its not always possible.
Orlabobz 2 years ago
I don't care how "nice" someone is, they are not as good as a parent staying home & raising a child. Parents need to make sacrifices so that one can stay home & anyone who wants the best for their child will do that or they will not have children that they can't afford. Pretty simple really.
justlisten67 2 years ago
my parents raised me and my siblings at weekends, before school, from 5 onwards and holidays. If one were sick one would stay home.
The fact is that i am no worse off because one parent did not stay home full time. And i'll have you know, we were darn lucky to get a woman like we did. It is not always an option to have one stay home parent. Parents make sacrifices every day, but by workin you can provide for the family. So if there is no money, there wont be anything to raise the child with.
Orlabobz 2 years ago
It is always an option for parents to make the necessary sacrifices to stay home and raise their children. If a man and woman can't afford to have one stay home and raise their children, which is the BEST thing for their children, then they shouldn't have them. I can't believe you think the part time parenting you described is good. I think given the choice between that & being parented full time by your parents, you would have chosen being parented full time by your mom and dad, who wouldn't?
justlisten67 2 years ago
from the age of 4, i went to school from 9 am until 2.10 at the very least, and i was the youngest of 4. Our parents returned home from work at half 4 or 5.
Yes i feel i was so deprived from being with my parents for those few hours...
with both my parents working I was able to get a better life because of their salaries. Its surely not a horrific childhood? And no I loved having my minder there, I was so sad when she stopped minding us.
Orlabobz 2 years ago
How sad you feel that money gave you a better life & not time spent bonding w/ your parents. Further it is sad that you mention that you were sad when your minder stopped watching you yet you say nothing about missing your parents when they were gone. Interesting. BTW, I'm not talking about parents working the same hrs. that children are in school. I'm talking about parents working when they should be bonding w/ their children.
justlisten67 2 years ago
oh for crying out loud. why does anyone with kids work at all! sure we can all just live off the dole and bond the whole time.
It is just not practical. What do you mean parents gone? I had barely my dinner eaten before they came home. I think our situation worked extremely well. Would you prefer people did not work?
Orlabobz 2 years ago
Had barely eaten your dinner before they came home? So you didn't even eat dinner as a family w/ your parents? That's fantastic. Stop taking what I'm saying out of context. When did I say go on welfare? This is what I'm saying: If you can't afford to have one parent stay home while the other works to support the family, DON'T HAVE KIDS because puting them in day care or some other child care situation is not what's best for them or the parent for that matter. Good bye and good luck to you.
justlisten67 2 years ago
@justlisten67 Maybe for you.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
I'm not thinking about me. I'm thinking about what is best for children. And that's what no one seems to do anymore.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 So? What you decide isn't best for someone else's children. Doy.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Children are not created to be born & then thrown into understaffed daycare centers or worse, dumped off to be raised by their grandparents. If you can't afford to have one parent stay at home & raise the children, DON'T HAVE THEM, unless of course,you want them to have a 2nd rate childhood. Then by all means, reproduce, work full time & parent part time while someone who can't possibly care about your child like they should raises them for you. Good bye & good luck, "LittlePinky82"!
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Sorry hon that not everybody in this world can live like you can and afford to. Some families have bills to pay and education to pay for. I know plenty of parents who have young children and work and they have a great relationship. Fuck off bitch.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Since your parents never bothered to tell you this, I will, Its not nice to swear like you did in that last post. Try to behave like a polite,mature adult in your posts, ok? I know you have no defense so that is why you are resorting to such behavior. Try something like this: Good bye & good luck.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh wah. Get over it. You aren't the moral police.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh it must be nice to be rich and afford that.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
You don't get it. Its not about being rich. Its about saying, "I can't afford to give a child a stay @ home parent, so I won't have one." That's it. & you're Wrong for assuming I am rich. My husband is 100%disabled & can't work b/c of a nuerological disease so I work full & part time jobs to pay our bills & save for retirement. We have no children b/c it WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO bring a child into a situation like this.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Hon you don't get it. Not everyone is like you. I have lots of friends who have children and work. You're talking about being polite and shit and then you turn around and are judgmental and pretty much acting like a damn fascists wanting everyone to behave just like you. Sorry hon it's not reality. Get over it. This is the 21st century. I can be a mother and head of the FBI someday if I want to. Fuck you.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Why are you so hostile? There is no need to reduce yourself to cursing even when you have nothing intelligent to say regarding an issue. I'm sure your parents or children would be so proud to see such foul language like that in your messages. People who care about their kids will not have more than they can afford & make sure that one parent can stay home to raise them.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh wah. Get over the language. It's the 21st century. Sorry hon we don't live in the 1950s anymore. My family is proud of me because of my actions and deeds and values. If when I want to have children whomever I'm married to we both want to work then that's what WE decide. Not you holier than thou asshole. As I said if I want to be head of the FBI and a mother I will. Fuck you.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Again, why are you so hostile & clean up your language. I don't care if its the 21st century. Right is right & wrong is wrong~it doesn't matter what the year is. You're missing my point any way. Parents who want the best for their children will have as many as they like & can afford while one stays at home & the other works. Your parents may be proud of your actions & deeds, but probably not your foul language. Good attempt at trying to make a point that wasn't related to what I said. Goodbye.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Not everyone lives like you do. Get over it.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Of course not everyone lives like me. And sadly, not everyone cares about children like me. Goodbye & good luck to you.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh get over yourself. You don't know me or any of my friends who are parents and both work. As I've said before fuck you. You're a holier than thou asshole. Get over it.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
No, not holier than thou, I just speak up when I need to & I do it with more grace than you. I don't need to know your friends who work. So YOU give it up, get over it & grow up while you're at it. Enough of your pointless, posts. You don't understand what I'm saying so we have nothing further to discuss. Listen carefully here...GOODBYE.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Hmm if it's so pointless why do you keep posting? Obviously not. And do you know what holier than thou means? It means you think your ways are better than everyone else's which is clearly what you've demonstrated in your postings. You think every woman should behave like you and stay home and cook and clean all day and not have a job of her own. Sorry hon but this is the 21st century and women have that liberation. As I said I can be a mother and head of the FBI if I want to.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
I keep posting because I enjoy pointing out that I value children (who can't always speak for themselves) & what is best for them & you DON'T. BTW, I never said a women should stay home, I said one parent should. Go ahead be the head of the FBI & a mother, but your children will suffer for it.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 How the fuck do you know any children I bring into this world would suffer for it? Who the hell are you to say that pathetic shit? I have lots of friends who have both parents work and they turned out to be fine people who I am glad to know. Maybe their parents had dreams and wishes they wanted to go after too. You don't value children at all. That's a lie. You value your fantasy world where every woman is like you. I know I'll make my family proud of whatever I do. Fuck you.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Do it with more grace? HA now that's hilarious. It's not very graceful to say every woman should be like you. No that's SELFISH and pathetic and far from being graceful. You can have your pretty words all day long but in the end your thoughts are disgusting. I want every woman to make her own decisions what's best for their family while you already have the decision made for some woman you know NOTHING about. That's not graceful at all.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh and there you go again being not graceful. Just because I have a different opinion, which is allowed last time I checked, does not mean I don't understand. It means I think you're wrong. Period. I'm a 27 yr old college educated woman. I know English, Japanese, Korean and Spanish languages. I'm very well educated. So no hon I do understand. You just need to get over the fact that I am the type of woman who wants every woman to make her own decisions. You made yours. Let others.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Grace refers to how people respond in situations not where they stand on issues. I am unimpressed w/the languages you say you know. I imagine you curse in those languages too. You don't understand what I'm saying so stop wasting my time.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 If I'm oh so wasting your time why do you keep replying? I guess not that much time eh? And grace has shit to do with language a lone. Your thoughts are selfish and that is not graceful. You think every woman should make decisions like you. That's pathetic and childish. Every woman and every family can make their OWN decisions. You made yours now learn to live with the fact that other people make their's. Who made you the moral police?
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
I want what is best for children, you want what self absorbed feminazis want. Throw children aside and forge ahead, sacrificing the basic needs of a child, a loving home w/ a present paren. As I said, I keep posting to show that I care about children and you don't. So say good bye & stop posting. You DON'T UNDERSTAND.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Ah I see. So me wanting to provide for any children and follow my dreams too is now Nazism? Lol wow what a strect that one is! You're the one who is more like Nazism wanting every woman to just be a baby factory. They actually did that you know. You care about children? How? You want a child to possibly grow up in poverty? Not have health care? Pathetic.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh and once again doing something pathetic and selfish telling other people to stop posting. Sorry hon not the rules.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 I know what's best for my family not some boob on the internet. Pathetic.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh and hmm I guess calling other people Nazi's for not doing what you do is now graceful? Lol so much for that bullshit.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Listen up & maybe you will understand this time. A family should not have more children than they can afford while one parent stays home to raise them. That doesn't mean that the woman is a baby factory & that they grow up in poverty. Quite the opposite. Case closed. If I'm such a boob, stop responding to my posts. GOOD BYE.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Hahahahahaha! Oh now that's funny. I've known parents who in no way planned their pregnancies. In fact I know two couples in that situation. They both are young and had only been married a few months and the wife got pregnant. So sorry hon but what you're spewing is not realistic. And yes that does mean the woman is a baby factory. And what do you say about single mother's? They don't have the luxury of staying home. I keep responding cause you're hilarious.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Any parent who wants the best for their children will make sacrifices so that one parent can stay at home & one can work. End of story.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Sorry hon not every family can afford that. It's called reality. Get over it.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Why do you keep saying good bye if you keep responding? Just you keep going on being a hypocrite. If you truly were saying a good bye you wouldn't have responded now three or four times. GET OVER the fact that not every family is like yours or wants to be. WE can make the decisions. Not you. You have NO authority. Pathetic.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Hi justlisten67, just reading some of this exchange here and have to stand up and applaud you! Of course I believe you're right as rain and your responses are well worded and you kept your dignity, bravo.
louiseb35 1 year ago
Louise35 Thank you so much! It's good to hear from you again! I just got tired of responding to her repetetive, foul mouthed, pointless dribble. She doesn't understand that I "am over" the fact that everyone doesn't live like me but I will never get over the fact that some think an understaffed, underpaid daycare center is just as good as a stay at home parent. Thank you for your kind words! All the best to you & your family!
justlisten67 1 year ago
Her replies were so off balance from yours, nothing you said warranted her hostility which you gotta wonder what the root of her issue really is. It was interesting to watch how your calm well-informed replies sent her clean over the edge like that! Wow.
louiseb35 1 year ago
Thank you again! I really feel sorry for that girl and have been praying that she comes to terms w/ her issues. Take care of yourself!
justlisten67 1 year ago
@louiseb35 What? Really? You have to wonder what the root of her issue is?
Justlisten67, a total stranger who doesn't know the specifics of her life, is telling her that her method of parenting is wrong and selfish, and that her children will be worse off because of it. Even if hostility isn't warranted, can't you at least see how that could be interpreted as an attack?
Zekkron 1 year ago
@Zekkron People like justlisten67 & me believe that ALL children are our most precious of creations. If you don't accept that premise then this post will be pointless. I don't have to know a person or the specifics of their life to see the value of their children. When children are not a parent's priority, it is a wrong against the child. It doesn't make it less of a wrong simply because feminism made boarding our children like dogs appear normal and healthy and popular. It's still wrong.
louiseb35 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Once again you're pathetic in keeping on insulting me saying I don't understand. If I don't understand why don't you explain? Because you know damn well I do understand. You think every family should have the mother stay home and take care of the home. Sorry hon but not every family is like that and can even afford to be like that. Just get over it and get over the fact you are NOT graceful. You're pathetic thinking every woman has to be like you. Grace is more than pretty words.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh and no hon grace is more than just how they respond. It's the bigger picture. Your grace is not there at all. You don't care about the children. You don't care about other women. You care about YOUR fantasy world where every woman is stuck in the 1950s or below. That is not grace. So get off that shit. Oh and as they say in Japanese you're a baka.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh and some women like myself want to have careers and are passionate about our fields not to make money or anything but because we love what we do. I'm a criminal justice major and I love my major and am passionate about it. I deserve to be able to follow ALL of my dreams and how dare someone else insult that like you have. I have not insulted your dreams at all and what you wanted to do. Once again showing how you are NOT graceful.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh and with my field of criminal justice I may save plenty of mothers out there who their children need. I may save a child out there who needs their mother. So sad you have such a pathetic 1950s world view. I'm just glad that no matter what I'm going to keep going after ALL of my dreams and no nobody on the internet will stop that.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 Oh and since you admitted you don't have children why the fuck are you judging people who do and make decisions that's best for THEIR families? *rolls eyes*
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@justlisten67 You can only make decisions best for YOUR family. End of story.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
Again, YOU don't get it. Adults need to consider what's BEST FOR CHILDREN. Just b/c I don't have kids doesn't mean I shut my eyes to issues about them. I don't have cancer but I still donate to cancer research. I am commenting on this b/c I CARE ABOUT CHILDREN & I want what's best for them. BTW, being polite & pointing out that someone is wrong about something aren't the same things. So AGAIN, I sign off being the bigger person saying, good bye & good luck to you.
justlisten67 1 year ago
@justlisten67 No you aren't the bigger person. You think your life is what everyone else should do. Sorry hon not what happens in the real world of the 21st century. If I want to be head of the FBI and a mother I can. Fuck you.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
My philosophy is this: the women's movement gave me the choice to be a homemaker or a working mom or to not marry or have children. I can do whatever I like. I don't HAVE to be a homemaker and I don't HAVE to be a woman with a job. I can be married or single or with a same sex partner. I can choose to have children or not. My choice to be a homemaker is just as big a symbol of Feminism as if I chose to be single and be a big time exec.
Pafuts 2 years ago 15
Nobody's out to take choices away, pick whatever lifestyle you think is best for you, I would argue though that when kids enter the picture they need their mother, not some daycare. But homemaker symbolic of feminism? My role as housewife is routinely distorted & denigrated. Same goes for traditional fatherhood. Perhaps when you saw the word 'housewife' you were repulsed, feminism imposed that on me. I know they're wrong & mine is the most honorable 'occupation' a woman can possibly have.
louiseb35 2 years ago
Agree justliste67 totally
magicmaker15 2 years ago 2
Thank you.
justlisten67 2 years ago
@justlisten67 If one parent can't afford to stay home, then it seems reasonable for the grandparents to help.
Zekkron 1 year ago
@justlisten67 let me tell you that in some families it's a blessing for the child to have a care taker!
rosrychaplet 1 year ago
I took a home-ec type class when I was in 6th grade. It was called ''Life Skills''. It was actually a requirement for my Middle School at the time to take that course.
moviefreak91 2 years ago
I'm a homemaker, and I wish like hell there was a class like this available when I was in high school.
nothingisfree 2 years ago 8
@nothingisfree HAHA ... girls were still required to take home ec when I was in jr high.
hicktownwoman 1 year ago
@hicktownwoman I didn't say "home ec", I said "a class like this". My home economics class was retarded, and didn't teach half the things this class taught.
nothingisfree 1 year ago
This is THE most sexist education video I've seen EVER! And little do they know that a couple decades later will come the second wave of feminism, making it possible to become a doctor, lawyer, graphic designer, screenwriter, etc.
However, being a house husband could have its perks as long as one isn't forced into it now that I think of it. LOL, I'm actually close to one already. I cook for my family, I do some of the chores, I shop for food, it could work.
CrazyCheeseMagee 2 years ago
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home economics...
GAY.
mishtacularr 2 years ago
Well, from reading books, supposedly, guys now take Home Economics, but as it said in the classic book Space Station Seventh Grade, why don't they teach girls how to mend a tire or build a treehouse?
CrazyCheeseMagee 2 years ago 2
i can't see how decorating and dressing will help you. it's all personal taste. cooking though.
shlempnar 2 years ago
We still had Home Economics when I was in high school (1975-79) and I loved the class. We learned to sew and cook, among other things. I think it is sad that they have been completely removed from high school curriculum
melaniestevens 2 years ago 2
Every middle school I've ever seen has a 9 wk requirement of home ect, for boys and girls. In addition there was a 1 semester optional class for 7th graders and a year long course for 8th graders. My school offers a 3 year cooking academy where students eventually get to be assistant to a chef. Were there any guys in your home ec class?
whenhen 2 years ago
The classes they have now are bad. In my class all we did as far as cooking was stir some muffin mix.
fashionhistorylover 2 years ago
i was in school and i still had home ec (2001-2005) i almost failed it but it taught me more about being a lady
hezyel 2 years ago 4