Fresno 40 Days for Life 2009 Montage

[itsjessica1984]

better then most anti-choice videos i picture of a live child moves me more then a dead fetus but im still pro choice thats the beauty of life we can choose and why would anyone want to force a child to make decisions later in life no matter how or when it happens.

children should be born out of love not disopline, fear, hate or a war tactic.

[itsjessica1984]

the beauty of life is being able to choose what to do when it effects yourself. We have a choice to say no to what gos in and a choice to when it will come out other at 40 weeks naturaly or at 16 weeks

your last sentence i completely disagree for during pregnancy anyways if laws change and abortions are made illegal what makes you think a women would change her life style possibly being drugs, alcohol, fighting, sleeping around, how about changing jobs to something safer or her passtimes?

[catfish77x]

@itsjessica1984

What about when our choices affect someone else? "40 weeks naturally or at 16 weeks _______". You left off an adverb to describe an intentional abortion. Is that perhaps because it sounds horrible to say unnaturally or violently? If not, then what adverb would you use instead. I am not quite sure what you meant by your last statement. Would you please clarify?

[itsjessica1984]

16 weeks by choice. if choice isnt good enough id say unnaturally then.

my last statement is saying if abortions become illegal and the women dosnt get one anyways, then whats to make her stop making decisions she would of without baby?

when a women becomes pregnant and is happy about it she'll do everything she can to protect it. If a women is forced to remain pregnant what makes you think she would do the same?

[catfish77x]

@itsjessica1984

What is the choice? I know choice sounds like a nice word but you really need to think about what is being chosen. Terminating a pregnancy only occurs after either a live birth or the killing of a living human being. So let me make sure I am hearing you correctly. You believe the beauty of life is being able to legally choose what to do when it affects yourself regardless of how it affects others and having a choice to either let our children be born naturally or kill them?

[itsjessica1984]

k let me put this another way you have a right to vote right? u have a right to choose what u think is right but your not thinking who the other people may choose, / rather in this situation the law you think its wrong and thats fine i disagree, but because u think its wrong u are making other people do ur bidding and thats right? natural / unnatural unborn children die & i would rather choose to end a pregnancy then go through a misscarrage @ least u made the decision then

[itsjessica1984]

can you imagion what laws would change if abortions became illegal?

certain jobs only men would be allowed to do (any heavy lifting, or dealing with the public for 2 ex)

misscarrages would be looked into make sure it wasnt self inflicted.

women that are pregnant could be arrested for being in dangourous places because thier putting thier baby at risk (this might involve walking down thier own block at night)

women between the ages of periods culd be arrested for quading, rock climbing ....

[catfish77x]

@itsjessica1984

I don't see non-abortion related laws changing at all if abortion was outlawed. Are you aware of any laws regarding job choices for women changing after Roe vs Wade, because I am not? Were all miscarriages investigated before abortion on demand was legalized? I just want to make sure I am hearing you correctly. You think abortion should remain legal because you are afraid women might be required to care for the health and safety of their own children.

[catfish77x]

Do you think laws that require parents to care for their children after they are born are wrong? Why or why not? Do you really think women would be arrested for rock climbing while pregnant if abortion on demand was made illegal?

[itsjessica1984]

no, because a born child is alive it never died prematurally (misscarrage/stillborn) the child is fine.

yes i highly doubt the government would say abortions are illegal & then leave so many loopholes. they would have to put laws in place to also protect the child more then just the death of the child. i also think instead of a drinking age or smoking be a gender, same with magor careers (that we already have to little personal filling) be gender not skill

[itsjessica1984]

by law we r to take care of the children out side of our bodies but if we go back to the days were women had no right to themselvs laws would be put in place to protect the unborn child. plus back then they did not have as much information as we do now or as easy means to get the knowledge yes laws would change if abortions become illegal, law to protect the unborn child which means women would get fired or not hired at certain jobs because companies could be putting women at risk rather babies

[catfish77x]

@itsjessica1984 By my last question in my previous post I meant do you think it is more important to be born "out of love" (please clarify, I assume you mean wanted by your parents) than to be alive and born at all? If the answer is yes then should we then go and kill everyone alive that was born unwanted? Should parents have the right to kill their children if they are unwanted after they are born? Why or why not?

[itsjessica1984]

yes i think a child should be brought into this world out of love not fear, or should be aborted.

no

no they can go into foster care or more realistically social services

one is born one is not

im glad my mother had a choice to have me instead of like when my parents were born, i feel like i was actually wanted.

my children where actually wanted, i didnt give birth to them because i was scared.

why should my children be forced into parenthood?

[catfish77x]

@itsjessica1984

Why couldn't a child unwanted by their own parents be put up for adoption or even raised by their own father if he wanted to? Why is "being born" a line of demarcation making it okay to harm or kill your child before but wrong afterwards? Would you be happy if your mother had chosen to abort you? Have you ever met anyone who was glad their mother aborted them?

[itsjessica1984]

thats up to the parents if they are close enough to make the decision. im not against adoption. Im glad many women are still able to carry the child to term and find a home for it

myself id figure its because the child was unplanned, unwanted and would be uncared for while in the womb.

i dont know if i would be happy i would be dead.

i personally have not meet someone that was aborted but thier are videos on youtube about a women that was.... salt abortion? i think is how ..late term

[catfish77x]

@itsjessica1984

Jessica, I am sure you think you are doing the right thing by supporting a legal right to choose abortion, but you really need to educate yourself on the facts. The video on your youtube site is full of factual errors and poor logic. For example, did you know in 1972 (the year before abortion was federally legalized), a total of 24 women died from causes known to be associated with legal abortions, and 39 died as a result of known illegal abortions (CDC).

[itsjessica1984]

u bring up a good point there i know the videos i think bring good points to the cause, (for it) mentioning this ive noticed (not you) other pro lifers change the % from day to day, at one point it was 3% then it hoped up to 12% and then 15% of legal abortions have physical complications.

i know a few women that have went through abortions and the ones i know had no complications except for before they made thier decision but they kept hoping back and force on it.

[catfish77x]

@itsjessica1984

Do you want to know when life begins? Read some embryology textbooks for the scientific answer. Finally, I am glad you chose life for your children. Help other parents make that same choice of love over violence towards defenseless innocent human beings, please.

[itsjessica1984]

i do belief life start at conception, but that being said it started before it takes two to start a baby and why do thier wishs mean nothing if baby is in womb?

Thats the thing i support people making thier own choices other that meaning keeping it, adoption or abortion.

what do you think would change if abortions are made illegal?

hope you dont mind but im sending a friend invite your not one of the ones that jump down the others throat and resort to insults.

[itsjessica1984]

did you know that pro life movements are not only trying to ban legal abortions but abortions that would save the womens life including tubal pregnancy abortions because "some have made it" it does not even give you a percentage that means maybe 1. so teenage girls that become pregnant or rape victums are sol. they mean nothing they can die which in all actuality mean 2 die instead of 1

[LifeReport]

Not trying to butt in, but where did you hear that pro-lifers want to ban abortions for life-threatening situations? I'm in the movement professionally, and I've never heard of ONE group that would want to do that, or even believes abortions in those rare cases are immoral. Is it possible that you're mistaken?

[catfish77x]

Do you think all people born before 1973 don't feel wanted by their parents? Do you think feeling wanted is more important than being alive? Feelings can change over time but death is permanent. Finally are you really being forced into parenthood when you willingly engage in an activity (sex) that can sometimes result in pregnancy (even when using protection or birth control which is not 100% effective)? Why is it wrong to hold people accountable for their actions?

[AlexChaplen]

I love this, you did a great job, Josh. Seeing so many pictures of like-minded people gives me hope...

- Katie