I mean like, seriously, just how many "children's programs" have heavy emotional scenes, occasionally have blood, sexuality is a common theme, there was a gay kiss once, and there are frequence sexual reference?
Bloody hell, get your facts right. It is a family or ANYONE program, not a children's program. On family terms, it has themes no other family show would dare ven explore, let alone a children's show.
It is an... everything programme. The producers even said it has no basic theme - each and every story is different from the previous, because the show explores many different types of stories and different elements.
We have light, dark, action, psychological (i.e. Midnight, creepy (such as Blink), ect..
It makes Doctor Who unique... different themes, and it has no paticular age target.
@XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX they can indulge in that shit behind closed doors, NOT in front of impressionable kids.Whats the matter with people...ITS WRONG ON A KIDS SHOW.
@MrZOMBIFICATION Who gives a damn anymore? It's the one show that's not afraid to let and younger viewers see these things, and quite fraknly, they don't mind. Most of the darker themes got unnoticed by younger viewers.
Plus, it's not even a kid's show. It's a family show with darker themes behind it, sexual references only some would understand, ect.. Plus, the show is critucally acclaimed for its mult-genre nature, and all of what you critisise.
@MrZOMBIFICATION --you are a disgusting homophob and YOU shouldn't be in front of impressionable kids you worthless sack of shit. Wake up and live in the 21st century--and if you ahte the show so much why are you watching it on youtube, you moron??
@MrZOMBIFICATION you are a disgusting homophobic moron. f you ahte the show so much, why are you watching it on you tube?? YOU shouldn't be in front of impressionable kids with all your hate speech...I feel sorry for idiots like you. Wake up and live in the 21st century!
If only it were. I'd like to see the 7th Doctor get in this mess and clean it up. "Excuse me Rassilon, or whoever you are, the Hand of Omega is in my care! You will not exterminate another Time Lord today."
Hate to burst your bubble, but the Hand of Omega may not have been destroyed. After it backfired on Davros' ship and destroyed Skaro, the Doctor said the Hand returned to Gallifrey. However, it's possible that it may have been destroyed when Gallifrey was in the Time War. But what Rassilon was using definately wasn't the Hand of Omega. For one, the Hand wasn't a gauntlet, it was a casket. Plus, whereas the Hand could destroy Planets, Rassilon's gauntlet could only disintegrate one living being.
@Kaagh178 in "trial of a time lord the valleyard was reaeled to be the dr. at the end of his regeneration cycle. does that mean that the dr. after this new dr. becomes the valleyard?
@MrTRENCHMEN No. A Time Lord has thirteen lives. When the Doctor reaches his thirteenth and final life, he MAY (nothing is for definate and the matter was left ambiguous) become the Valeyard. The Doctor is currently on his eleventh life (Matt Smith). He has two more regenerations to go before he becomes the thirteenth Doctor.
@darthkarr No, they said that he has 12 regenerations. Which gives him 13 lives. he can't regenerate after his 13th life. But don't worry. As said in 'The Five Doctors', a Time Lord can be bestowed a completely new life cycle of 13 new lives.
@Kaagh178 i know part..but woudnt that be out the window now with the timelords gone?...as they were the only ones who could..and besides...i doubt the doctor would accpet that offer
@darthkarr Indeed. But the Time Lords have already returned once. Who's to say they won't try to come back again? After all, the Master is trapped with them now, on the last day of the Time War. I reckon he won't stay there for long. ;)
@Kaagh178 actually thats one of the reasons why im not watrching the new series...plus the reuse of the dalkes, vampires, cybermen...to me its just gone too far now, and their jsut abusing the characters...ive ebign a fan for lyears and loved the old series and the new trmendously..but theres a limit...also the doc mothers being in the end of time?...imo the whole genetic looms are a muich better idea than randomly giving him a human mother
@darthkarr The looms were certainly an interesting idea, but Davies has made that non canon, with the implication that Time Lords reproduce sexually. Even though Davies intended Claire Bloom's character to be the Doctor's mother, he leaves it ambiguous.
@darthkarr Besides, no one said his mother was human, except for in the TV Movie. This fact was retconned in the IDW Comic, The Forgotten. The Daleks must always feature, it wouldn't be Doctor Who without them. Same goes for the Cybermen. As for the Vampire fish people, they might not appear again. Personally, I like Series 5 and think that Steven Moffat imbued the Show with new life. I'll stay as a true fan of Doctor Who to the bitter end.
Yer tennant is easily the best but this new guy looks like he has pertential. But what I don't get is how come the profercy seys that he going to die but he just re-generates.
Yes maybe they did. They also sent the doctor to undo what they did or their dirty work on Genisis of the Daleks. They might have also changed Dalek history and made it worse and maybe more than once since they never even travled through time until the chase and maybe never. The history Skaro was different in the first Dalek episode. I was going to say that on about another video.
@britfrenir in genesis of the daleks i don't think history was changed at all. I think that the daleks rulling the world had been a prediction of the time war, and when the timelords saw this they sent the doctor to stop it however bying trying to stop it, it created it if you know what i mean. on the offical dr. who site they say the genesis of the daleks was what caused the time war
I meant it is different than the history in season one an they were able to go out side of their city after that and they were able to travel through time later and even more different by Genisis.
BIG mistake for calling Tim Dalton 'Rassilon' because it is explained in 'The Invasion of Time' AND 'The Five Doctors', in which both episodes contain the Time Lords, that Rassilon died thousands of years before the episode is set. So how possibly could he still be alive in 'The End of Time' which is set during the Time War?
because rassilon in the 5 doctors special wasnt dead he was suspended eternaly in time ..lord president borusa was also suspended in time when he sought immortality..the 1st doctor alluded to that when he quoted rassilons decree that to win immortality was to lose..which is why the doctor didnt take it for himself.its apparent that in desperate times the timelords turned to their civilizations creator rassilon himself for an extreme final solution...
He never really died. Rassilon was immortal. His spirit lived on way past death, as shown in his Tomb in The Five Doctors. Romana, an old companion of the Doctor's was President of Gallifrey before the War. She either died or simply fell from power. The Time Lords then decided to resurrect the founder of Time Lord society, Rassilon to lead them in the Time War.
Romana was stranded in a parallel universe - to get back home and become President would have been impressive! Surely someone that clever would have put up a bit more of a fist fight in the 'Time War'. I feel a plot twist coming on don't you......
@lozman67 There is a series of audio stories called Gallifrey. In that, Romana returns to Gallifrey from E-Space with K-9 MK II. She eventually becomes Lady President. Leela and K-9 MK I are also in the Series. Russell T Davies seems to support this series as canon, as he writes in the 2005 Doctor Who Annual that Romana was President of Gallifrey before the Time War began. Also, in the IDW Comic, 'The Forgotten', the Doctor reminises that things went well for Romana, until the Time War.
All this is over some crazy 30second sence at a bar? how do u find anything in that dirty?
would u find it dirty if he was sitting next to some slutty chick? its not like there was an orgy going on or something if u really cared about kids why not bitch about the fact that chicks shorts are getting smaller and smaller (in aussie at the moment the longest shorts my kid sister can find is the same size as my foot NOW THAT is FUCKED up
i only got that last few commets of that convo i think it was something about gay ppl and all i can say is what are u guys talking about i have not seen anything filthy on doctor who at all all i have seen is a cool tv show that likes to show ppl in love at the end of the day they are not hurting anyone apart from ppl who seem to hate other ppl just coz they like or love someone thats diff to who they are if u could see it from a gay point of view (just love that's all
@MrZOMBIFICATION PRECISELY!! he knows kids are watching so he shows them that not all great relationships on tv have to be straight! GO RTD is what I say! he's only standing up to homophobes like YOU
2) Your insipid little brain needs to accept difference and not feel threatened by it. Tolerance is the way forward, Russell knows this and is trying to pass that message onto all the viewers of Doctor Who, be they adults, children or teenagers like me.
Ah, labelling me eh. I admit watching that stuff turns my stomach, most straight guys feel the same, its hard for us to watch that stuff. You be gay, that is your right, but i dont want my kids watchin that shit on the telly.you may want them to, hoping it generates better tolerence with next generation.If a boy copied something he seen on tv, and was straight, he'd be ridiculed and would struggle to come to terms with that later in life wouldnt he? Leading to drug+drink problems.
Actually, how do u know i wont have kids? can you see into the future? er no, sorry, i must have mistaken you for someone important, and i have a 10 year and a 5 year cousin and they love Jack Harkness, they dont care that he's gay because IT'S JUST A SHOW
I would have never expected the something to be the planet Gallifrey.. nice job RTD and Co. and having Tim Dalton play the Lord President... thumbs up.. I just always assumed that Romana was the Lady President during the Time War.
just stop and think about what your typing for one second!!! has it occurred to you that you are not only offending John B. and Russell D. but you are offending everyone with your hateful comments!! The commenting feature was made so that people could compliment each other and not use it for insulting, because if people just insulted all the time, the whole world would sink into a deep depression....so, please stop it!!
@anisapologist Actually the correct spelling is Jeronimo as people were crying to St. Jeronimo for help when being attacked by a native american. After people yelled Jeronimo! to him so many times the name stuck. The spelling of his name was made Geronimo. As for Matt Smith, I said I had strong reservations, if you know the meaning of that sentence you would know it doesn't mean I am not giving him a chance, it means withholding judgement, concerned etc
@crmfghtr --what the fuck are you on about? I don't know anything about saints because I'm not a religious person, and don't believe in God, but I am an American who specialised in native American studies in college and we were always taught the correct spelling of the Native American hero is Geronimo...don't know what the fuck you are about with saints, but the Native American is spelled that way. Case closed.
The gay propaganda in the show is Russell T Davies way of making sure our children are on his sexual wavelength when they leave school. Keeping his future options open by spreading the word.
@anisapologist BUT I AM ENTIRELY CORECT. DAVIES WANKS HIMSELF INTO A FRENZY THE INSTANT HIS GAY SLAG CHARACTER IS THRUST UPON THE POPULATION. IT IS A GAY CONVERSION METHOD. WAKE UP.
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there are millions of things i could have watched but but i thought i should have a laugh at the most ridiculous show on earth-dr cunt who and his little blue box! as for you sunshine your pathetic for getting so worked up over a crappy tv show. you seriously need to get a hobby SON! fucking retard!
Wow, what a twat. Its great you hate something so much, but cant you crawl into a ditch and die on your own hate or something or do you have to be such a Twat to basically go "Look at me, I'm mature, I say CUNT 5 times in a sentence, I hate everything, EVERYONE LISTEN TO ME!!! PLEASE OTHERWISE THE NIGHTMARE OF MY ANAL RAPE FROM MY PEDO DAD WILL HAUNT ME FOREVER"
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@RYCloud92:WOW what a twat it seems are the only three words that your whore of a mother must have taught you.Like i said dr cunt who fans are a bunch of mongrel inbred retards that need to do the world a favor and shoot themselves. As for you cunt, just because the sheep you used to fuck,with your dad, said you have a needle-dick doesn't mean you have to take your anger out on me (the father who abandoned you).At least you called me sir,the technical term for some1 whos banging your sister!
YOUR THE FUCKING LOSER! watching midless bullshit that is dr who. dr who is a cunt and so is any1 who watches this garbage, including the biggest cunt of all time - YOU!! u little sad man! GROW UP & GROW A PAIR!
LOl! Really?! Your'e response is what I expect from an illiterate deviant that you are. Your birth certificate was an apology to the world. I honestly wish I could take you seriuosly, but COME ON! You spew profanity like an uneducated mongrel. This is the best you can come up with in the amount of time it has been since the last post? Really?! Enjoy the pathetic existence you have.
And you jack off over the tardis you fucking retard piece of shit! you need to grow up HEY ARNOLD!! isnt that another piece of shit show for toddlers? like i said you lot are a bunch of sad motherfuckers!!! OWNED BITCH!!!!
I think the Time Lords will be back. It has never been established how the Doctor knows EVERY Gallifreyan died when the planet burned, which opens up the notion that some clever bad ones (and some good ones, who rebelled against the high council's corruption) may have slipped away.
Yup, especially Romana. Would've been great if the Council scene had mentioned that some 'remnant' (led by Romana) that pined for the old days of the Time Lords was also missing.
Anyone else think that the gauntlet that Rassilon was wearing looking very similar to the Resurrection Gauntlet from Torchwood? Is there a chance that Russel T Davies was trying to leave more than a small connection with the two shows before he left? Beyond the simple references, that is.
I know people are upset that David Tennant is leaving (as am I), but keep in mind that Steven Moffat has taken over as lead writer and executive producer, and his stories have been *by far* the best. Even if Matt Smith is merely competent, we could be in for an *amazing* season of storytelling to come.
Well confirmed is using the term loosely, a bit like in The Last Of The Time Lords commentary where the Face of Boe and Jack were confirmed to be the same also by Julie Gardner...
However on the latter I tend to agree because that's some good sci fi. =D
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kids don't need to see even HINTS of gay action, and stop calling people who don't like it 'closet queers'. Jesus Christ, where's your scientific evidence...your Dad?
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i thought this part2 stunk! A total waste of the fantastic promise of the time lords return (loved timothy in part one) . The whole slow dying journey he went on was a slap in the face to everything that when on before it grrr im too angrey to carry on typing
this also show the Timeloads knew of how they would end and they knew it would be the Doctor and Master..they made them what they are and they made their own end.. Sad...Next Eps is going to be good..New Doctor and more.
@konamaiki1 no that woman who kept appearing was Donna Noble. At the end when doctor was at the wedding, wilf asked who was that woman, then the doctor looked over Wilfs shoulder and the camera zoomed into Donna Noble in the background. Also Donna is part time lord as well so she proberly remembered.
He might just have been caught up in reverie and did not acknowledge Wilf's question. Her identity was probably purposefully left ambiguous, like that of the woman with red nails who picked up the Master's ring in the previous finale, so it could be played with or revealed at a later time. Or we may never know. I personally think that it was a relative of his. Then again, for whatever reason, Rose's theme can be heard around her.
i have to say when i saw matt smith at the end i thought of two people Heath Ledger in the dark knight and Paul McGann who played the 8th doctor it looks clear to me that the 11th doctor is going to be really of his rocker and i cant wait to see GERONIMO
@Chrisindapurplehouse Hey on the forums i said the same and got yelled at and now I got 600 email on How did I know... Gee you want to win a war but have no clue how to fight .. who ya going to bring back ? Rassilon and we know see who made the Master Mad as well.. Great eps
@Devonfield1c sad has teh Master .. remember the TL's can put people from time.. its was idiot move with the power he has but to will a timeware you needed Rassilon .. and where have we seen a
based on this advert I gotta wonder if the Timothy Dalton person is actually a pre-Utopia Master?!? That when his plan fell, he ran (as he does) to stay alive...
Nah Timothy Dalton is The Narrator. During The Last Great Time War, The Narrator and the rest of the Timelords were locked inside a timelock. It is revealed that the drum beats in The Master's head is a signal. Like, echolocation into the future so that they can establish a link to get out of the timelock.
aaw i just watched part 2 this evening and i cried buckets. i didnt want david to go. when he paid his last visits to the people he cared about started me bubbling my eyes out. matt smith the new doctor seems like a younger version of david tennant. same hair but longer lol
I thought it was hilarious that he felt his longer hair and questioned whether he had become a woman. I keep poking fun at my cousin for the same thing, hehe.
just fantastic - what a perfect ending. I'm so glad I had the biggest box of tissues handy at the end! Bernard Cribbin was brilliant, as was John Simm and of course the fantastic David Tennant! Loved it !!!!
David has been the rise of doctor who he is known far and wide because of doctor who if this new doctor makes the show worse, BBC will try bloody hard to get David back, even if the doctor has regenerated, there will be something the BBC can say to bring David back, the timelords were supposed to be dead but they weren't, don't worry guys David might return.
I didn't think I would be this upset but I was unconsoleable(sp?) at the end. I'm not going to put it here for people who haven't seen it yet but David's last line slayed me.
I honestly don't think that 'geronimo' is much worse or better than 'allons-y'. Both were are a little bit off the wall. Besides, it suited the situation at the time.
Some people think she is the Doctor's mother, wife or even Susan, others say Donna or Rose.
I wanted to laugh at Captain Jack and Alonso, but I am still irritated at how Russel T Davies handled Torchwood and Ianto. It would have had to have been a LONG time since that happened for Jack to be up to flirting. Then again, it's Jack!
They did have in cast the doctor who is now on stargate U. which i thought would have been a great new Doctor for the who world.. but, sadly he went with stargate... we can only hope matt can keep up with DT
I assume "The Moment" is a type of weapon.
Melville10 1 year ago
u dont fuck with a time lord
irishdan2007 1 year ago
@irishdan2007
And certainly not with Rassilon.
Tenebrous76 1 year ago
0:08 to 0:25 Why are there never handrails?! Dangerous walking on a narrow passage high above the floor.
JunkyardCrap 1 year ago
@JunkyardCrap was thinking the same thing, waste of a regeneration falling off that thing!!!!!
weejoeham 1 year ago
I love the music for this scene!
Nic01224 1 year ago
SUKRAM go hang around a public toilet you mroonic little pervert.....this about Dr Who you scumlicking dirtbag
baroncool 1 year ago
ooooooooooooooooooooo...
ProudToBeNerdy 1 year ago
I reckon they ought to bring back omega one more time.
matt2house 1 year ago
You never know. Omega may be the main villain of the Series 5 finale.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
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PokemonPinecone 1 year ago
Doesn't Rassilon's gauntlet look like the ones they have on Torchwood?
yoshinibble123 1 year ago
Of course Doctor Who isn't just a children's programme, I know that! D:
Mooshique 1 year ago
You certinaly proved that through your previous comments! D:<
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 1 year ago
Assuming that too is a sarcastic statement, how do you mean? o.o
Mooshique 1 year ago
I don't know anymore, fogive my insanity. >_>
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 1 year ago
When does the full episode come out
matau254 1 year ago
The womengot pwned owned
125pussinboots 1 year ago
aparrently lalla ward was in this ep...who did she play??
kbien42 1 year ago
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why do adults watch this stupid childrens programme? it is amazing. same plot cycle every episode with stupid aliens and robots. grow up people!
almightyjass 1 year ago
@almightyjass
Yes, it's just a stupid children's programme.
-.-
That's why it's been running for decades...
The TARDIS is the ultimate plot generator, anything can happen, anywhere, anywhen. -.o
Mooshique 1 year ago
@Mooshique: are you like insane?
I mean like, seriously, just how many "children's programs" have heavy emotional scenes, occasionally have blood, sexuality is a common theme, there was a gay kiss once, and there are frequence sexual reference?
Bloody hell, get your facts right. It is a family or ANYONE program, not a children's program. On family terms, it has themes no other family show would dare ven explore, let alone a children's show.
Good lord.
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 1 year ago
Sadly, it is anything but a children's programme or family programme any longer. RTD saw to that.
WC3POchannel10A 1 year ago
It is an... everything programme. The producers even said it has no basic theme - each and every story is different from the previous, because the show explores many different types of stories and different elements.
We have light, dark, action, psychological (i.e. Midnight, creepy (such as Blink), ect..
It makes Doctor Who unique... different themes, and it has no paticular age target.
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 1 year ago
Yeah, that's the beauty of Doctor Who. It's diversity in stories and themes is what makes it unique.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
@XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX
I wasn't the one calling it a children's programme, I was repeating what almightyjass said, intended as a sarcastic statement...
I was supporting the show. >.>
Direct your hostilities at almightyjass. O_O
Mooshique 1 year ago
@XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX they can indulge in that shit behind closed doors, NOT in front of impressionable kids.Whats the matter with people...ITS WRONG ON A KIDS SHOW.
MrZOMBIFICATION 1 year ago
@MrZOMBIFICATION Who gives a damn anymore? It's the one show that's not afraid to let and younger viewers see these things, and quite fraknly, they don't mind. Most of the darker themes got unnoticed by younger viewers.
Plus, it's not even a kid's show. It's a family show with darker themes behind it, sexual references only some would understand, ect.. Plus, the show is critucally acclaimed for its mult-genre nature, and all of what you critisise.
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 1 year ago
@XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX Its an agenda by middle aged homosexuals to recruit future partners and turn the world queer...sick bastards.
MrZOMBIFICATION 1 year ago
@MrZOMBIFICATION --you are a disgusting homophob and YOU shouldn't be in front of impressionable kids you worthless sack of shit. Wake up and live in the 21st century--and if you ahte the show so much why are you watching it on youtube, you moron??
anisapologist 1 year ago
@MrZOMBIFICATION you are a disgusting homophobic moron. f you ahte the show so much, why are you watching it on you tube?? YOU shouldn't be in front of impressionable kids with all your hate speech...I feel sorry for idiots like you. Wake up and live in the 21st century!
anisapologist 1 year ago
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"....The TARDIS is the ultimate plot generator, anything can happen, anywhere, anywhen."
You are right about that. That has been part of the magic of the show.
WC3POchannel10A 1 year ago
1:19= is it me, or does that timelord behind the president look like sylvester mcoy?
sonofthedoctor 1 year ago
If only it were. I'd like to see the 7th Doctor get in this mess and clean it up. "Excuse me Rassilon, or whoever you are, the Hand of Omega is in my care! You will not exterminate another Time Lord today."
WC3POchannel10A 1 year ago
@WC3POchannel10A
rassilon: soz, but this aint the hand of omega, considering davros destroyed it (accidentally). this... is da hand of pwnage! >8D
doctor: 0_0
sonofthedoctor 1 year ago
Hate to burst your bubble, but the Hand of Omega may not have been destroyed. After it backfired on Davros' ship and destroyed Skaro, the Doctor said the Hand returned to Gallifrey. However, it's possible that it may have been destroyed when Gallifrey was in the Time War. But what Rassilon was using definately wasn't the Hand of Omega. For one, the Hand wasn't a gauntlet, it was a casket. Plus, whereas the Hand could destroy Planets, Rassilon's gauntlet could only disintegrate one living being.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
@Kaagh178 in "trial of a time lord the valleyard was reaeled to be the dr. at the end of his regeneration cycle. does that mean that the dr. after this new dr. becomes the valleyard?
MrTRENCHMEN 1 year ago
@MrTRENCHMEN No. A Time Lord has thirteen lives. When the Doctor reaches his thirteenth and final life, he MAY (nothing is for definate and the matter was left ambiguous) become the Valeyard. The Doctor is currently on his eleventh life (Matt Smith). He has two more regenerations to go before he becomes the thirteenth Doctor.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
@Kaagh178 didnt they recont it to say he only had 12 lives now?...sometimes the new series goes against whats in the old series
darthkarr 1 year ago
@darthkarr No, they said that he has 12 regenerations. Which gives him 13 lives. he can't regenerate after his 13th life. But don't worry. As said in 'The Five Doctors', a Time Lord can be bestowed a completely new life cycle of 13 new lives.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
@Kaagh178 i know part..but woudnt that be out the window now with the timelords gone?...as they were the only ones who could..and besides...i doubt the doctor would accpet that offer
darthkarr 1 year ago
@darthkarr Indeed. But the Time Lords have already returned once. Who's to say they won't try to come back again? After all, the Master is trapped with them now, on the last day of the Time War. I reckon he won't stay there for long. ;)
Kaagh178 1 year ago
@Kaagh178 actually thats one of the reasons why im not watrching the new series...plus the reuse of the dalkes, vampires, cybermen...to me its just gone too far now, and their jsut abusing the characters...ive ebign a fan for lyears and loved the old series and the new trmendously..but theres a limit...also the doc mothers being in the end of time?...imo the whole genetic looms are a muich better idea than randomly giving him a human mother
darthkarr 1 year ago
@darthkarr The looms were certainly an interesting idea, but Davies has made that non canon, with the implication that Time Lords reproduce sexually. Even though Davies intended Claire Bloom's character to be the Doctor's mother, he leaves it ambiguous.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
@darthkarr Besides, no one said his mother was human, except for in the TV Movie. This fact was retconned in the IDW Comic, The Forgotten. The Daleks must always feature, it wouldn't be Doctor Who without them. Same goes for the Cybermen. As for the Vampire fish people, they might not appear again. Personally, I like Series 5 and think that Steven Moffat imbued the Show with new life. I'll stay as a true fan of Doctor Who to the bitter end.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
Yer tennant is easily the best but this new guy looks like he has pertential. But what I don't get is how come the profercy seys that he going to die but he just re-generates.
JP8940 1 year ago
have to wait til next week now for this ep
FlipsHamilton 1 year ago
teh woman get pwned lol
Predatorbringsdeath 1 year ago
godesse bless holland for having bbc
maiamkaia 1 year ago
i am in australia and i have to wait until valentines day to watch the end of time :(
sholoh99 1 year ago 2
@sholoh99 WOW that sucks so much lol
DyLaaN100 1 year ago
@sholoh99 --are you crazy? it was on a few days after Xmas Day in Australia--I watched it myself. I live in canberra
anisapologist 1 year ago
And not be like those Galaxy Quet and star Trek fans.
britfrenir 2 years ago
Yes maybe they did. They also sent the doctor to undo what they did or their dirty work on Genisis of the Daleks. They might have also changed Dalek history and made it worse and maybe more than once since they never even travled through time until the chase and maybe never. The history Skaro was different in the first Dalek episode. I was going to say that on about another video.
britfrenir 2 years ago
@britfrenir in genesis of the daleks i don't think history was changed at all. I think that the daleks rulling the world had been a prediction of the time war, and when the timelords saw this they sent the doctor to stop it however bying trying to stop it, it created it if you know what i mean. on the offical dr. who site they say the genesis of the daleks was what caused the time war
Freezboob 1 year ago
I meant it is different than the history in season one an they were able to go out side of their city after that and they were able to travel through time later and even more different by Genisis.
britfrenir 1 year ago
The UK is lucky... I have to wait till [Insert deity here or leave blank] knows when my local PBS station will play this!
DiEx80 2 years ago
I want a gauntlet like that!! Do you think they sell them on eBay? And not some replica. I want the real deal lol.
adgp 2 years ago
BIG mistake for calling Tim Dalton 'Rassilon' because it is explained in 'The Invasion of Time' AND 'The Five Doctors', in which both episodes contain the Time Lords, that Rassilon died thousands of years before the episode is set. So how possibly could he still be alive in 'The End of Time' which is set during the Time War?
powerhousechipmunk23 2 years ago
if they could ressurect the master, then why not rassilon?
halfbreed1426 2 years ago
because rassilon in the 5 doctors special wasnt dead he was suspended eternaly in time ..lord president borusa was also suspended in time when he sought immortality..the 1st doctor alluded to that when he quoted rassilons decree that to win immortality was to lose..which is why the doctor didnt take it for himself.its apparent that in desperate times the timelords turned to their civilizations creator rassilon himself for an extreme final solution...
niteowl969 2 years ago
@powerhousechipmunk23: it's probably a common Gallyfreyan name.
greengrendel 2 years ago
He didn't die, he was put in 'eternal sleep'. And it is sci-fi, where there's will, there's a way.
everton14lw 2 years ago
He never really died. Rassilon was immortal. His spirit lived on way past death, as shown in his Tomb in The Five Doctors. Romana, an old companion of the Doctor's was President of Gallifrey before the War. She either died or simply fell from power. The Time Lords then decided to resurrect the founder of Time Lord society, Rassilon to lead them in the Time War.
Kaagh178 1 year ago 7
@Kaagh178
Romana was stranded in a parallel universe - to get back home and become President would have been impressive! Surely someone that clever would have put up a bit more of a fist fight in the 'Time War'. I feel a plot twist coming on don't you......
lozman67 1 year ago
@lozman67 There is a series of audio stories called Gallifrey. In that, Romana returns to Gallifrey from E-Space with K-9 MK II. She eventually becomes Lady President. Leela and K-9 MK I are also in the Series. Russell T Davies seems to support this series as canon, as he writes in the 2005 Doctor Who Annual that Romana was President of Gallifrey before the Time War began. Also, in the IDW Comic, 'The Forgotten', the Doctor reminises that things went well for Romana, until the Time War.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
They tryied, but some people don't get it
Makiruz 2 years ago
Of course I am! That's where the problem lies! With his crazy talk that just doesn't go away
Makiruz 2 years ago
I hadn't watched the episode.
Makiruz 2 years ago
All this is over some crazy 30second sence at a bar? how do u find anything in that dirty?
would u find it dirty if he was sitting next to some slutty chick? its not like there was an orgy going on or something if u really cared about kids why not bitch about the fact that chicks shorts are getting smaller and smaller (in aussie at the moment the longest shorts my kid sister can find is the same size as my foot NOW THAT is FUCKED up
novajhv 2 years ago 4
i only got that last few commets of that convo i think it was something about gay ppl and all i can say is what are u guys talking about i have not seen anything filthy on doctor who at all all i have seen is a cool tv show that likes to show ppl in love at the end of the day they are not hurting anyone apart from ppl who seem to hate other ppl just coz they like or love someone thats diff to who they are if u could see it from a gay point of view (just love that's all
novajhv 2 years ago
This isnt anti-gay, its anti dirty arse Barrowman and Davies. There was no need for thar bar scene, he knows kids are watching.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
@MrZOMBIFICATION PRECISELY!! he knows kids are watching so he shows them that not all great relationships on tv have to be straight! GO RTD is what I say! he's only standing up to homophobes like YOU
horseemad222 1 year ago
@horseemad222 No, hes a sick dirty man...just like you.
MrZOMBIFICATION 1 year ago
@MrZOMBIFICATION Let me point out the flaws in your argument.
1) I am not a man, neither am I sick or dirty
2) Your insipid little brain needs to accept difference and not feel threatened by it. Tolerance is the way forward, Russell knows this and is trying to pass that message onto all the viewers of Doctor Who, be they adults, children or teenagers like me.
horseemad222 1 year ago
@horseemad222 Says you, us parents dont want kids lookin at that shit..fuck tolerence, fuck davies and fuck YOU.
MrZOMBIFICATION 1 year ago
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Im not insulting people, just Davies. Puttin his filthy messages in there for kids to see. I pay fukin TV license for that shit?
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
kids might watch this video and see your filthy language parents pay internet serveses for this shit?
Sukram3rd 2 years ago
Im havin my say, the BBC are takin the piss.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago 2
well you can hardly complane about what children might see then swere where kids might see it you can't have your cake and eat it to
Sukram3rd 2 years ago
Kids hear bad language, they don't need to see 2 fellas ogling each other, unless you're a closet paedophile.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
just cos im gay and support gay rights make me a pedo? if it was a man and a woman doing the same no one would have any problem your just a homophobe
Sukram3rd 2 years ago 4
Ah, labelling me eh. I admit watching that stuff turns my stomach, most straight guys feel the same, its hard for us to watch that stuff. You be gay, that is your right, but i dont want my kids watchin that shit on the telly.you may want them to, hoping it generates better tolerence with next generation.If a boy copied something he seen on tv, and was straight, he'd be ridiculed and would struggle to come to terms with that later in life wouldnt he? Leading to drug+drink problems.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
so are you
icuiun 2 years ago
Because you want kids to learn about gays and gay sex. If you had kids, which you never will, you'd understand.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
Actually, how do u know i wont have kids? can you see into the future? er no, sorry, i must have mistaken you for someone important, and i have a 10 year and a 5 year cousin and they love Jack Harkness, they dont care that he's gay because IT'S JUST A SHOW
icuiun 2 years ago
i bet you bought them the toy.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
no, they like the doctor better, but they still like cptn jack
icuiun 2 years ago
I would have never expected the something to be the planet Gallifrey.. nice job RTD and Co. and having Tim Dalton play the Lord President... thumbs up.. I just always assumed that Romana was the Lady President during the Time War.
mikawhofan 2 years ago
Getting Timothy Dalton to play the Time Lord Emperor, what a masterstroke!
nosperv 2 years ago 8
weel he said he will not die noboaedy Know's when thay going to die
MINNIEBLACK 2 years ago
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I accept it behind closed doors, not on a show that makes its money from kids. If you want kids watching sleaze, you warrant watching.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
just stop and think about what your typing for one second!!! has it occurred to you that you are not only offending John B. and Russell D. but you are offending everyone with your hateful comments!! The commenting feature was made so that people could compliment each other and not use it for insulting, because if people just insulted all the time, the whole world would sink into a deep depression....so, please stop it!!
icuiun 2 years ago
"just stop and think about what your typing for one second!!!" it kinda sounds like what the dr says to the master
Sukram3rd 2 years ago
hehehe, it does lol!! doctor who must be rubbing off on me, hehehe
icuiun 2 years ago
I ONLY WANT HELP YOU ALL.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
I think mattsmith is gonna go fine, itll be a nice teeenager spin on the doctor.
Zombification u shud throw u comp in the bin, nobody wants ur opinions
chelseartb 2 years ago 3
Well this was a fine episode, and a fitting departure for David Tenant. I have strong reservations about the future, "Jeronimo!!!!" WTF??
crmfghtr 2 years ago
@crmfghtr --give poor Matt Smith a chance--and learn to spell "Geronimo"!!
anisapologist 2 years ago
@anisapologist Actually the correct spelling is Jeronimo as people were crying to St. Jeronimo for help when being attacked by a native american. After people yelled Jeronimo! to him so many times the name stuck. The spelling of his name was made Geronimo. As for Matt Smith, I said I had strong reservations, if you know the meaning of that sentence you would know it doesn't mean I am not giving him a chance, it means withholding judgement, concerned etc
crmfghtr 2 years ago 3
@crmfghtr --what the fuck are you on about? I don't know anything about saints because I'm not a religious person, and don't believe in God, but I am an American who specialised in native American studies in college and we were always taught the correct spelling of the Native American hero is Geronimo...don't know what the fuck you are about with saints, but the Native American is spelled that way. Case closed.
anisapologist 1 year ago
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The gay propaganda in the show is Russell T Davies way of making sure our children are on his sexual wavelength when they leave school. Keeping his future options open by spreading the word.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
@MrZOMBIFICATION You are a fuckwit. Shut up!
anisapologist 2 years ago
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@anisapologist BUT I AM ENTIRELY CORECT. DAVIES WANKS HIMSELF INTO A FRENZY THE INSTANT HIS GAY SLAG CHARACTER IS THRUST UPON THE POPULATION. IT IS A GAY CONVERSION METHOD. WAKE UP.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
See, now everything makes sense. James Bond is President of the Time Lords! Now we know why they kick so much ass!
ballantrae101 2 years ago 3
@ballantrae101 LOLOLOLOL!!!! I was thining th esame thing! lol! those eyes could kill!
CrazyGood88 2 years ago
I think that this will allow other time lords to escape destruction, so brace yourselves kiddies more time lords will pop up in the future.
filter021 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHH
AuglereDeRosenkinde 2 years ago
die already you fool.
jaybie2008 2 years ago
kill her off. she cant act for shit.
jaybie2008 2 years ago
yeah a shit actor! woo hooo!!!
jaybie2008 2 years ago
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there are millions of things i could have watched but but i thought i should have a laugh at the most ridiculous show on earth-dr cunt who and his little blue box! as for you sunshine your pathetic for getting so worked up over a crappy tv show. you seriously need to get a hobby SON! fucking retard!
jaybie2008 2 years ago
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Wow, what a twat. Its great you hate something so much, but cant you crawl into a ditch and die on your own hate or something or do you have to be such a Twat to basically go "Look at me, I'm mature, I say CUNT 5 times in a sentence, I hate everything, EVERYONE LISTEN TO ME!!! PLEASE OTHERWISE THE NIGHTMARE OF MY ANAL RAPE FROM MY PEDO DAD WILL HAUNT ME FOREVER"
What a complete and utter Twat you are sir
RYCloud92 2 years ago
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@RYCloud92:WOW what a twat it seems are the only three words that your whore of a mother must have taught you.Like i said dr cunt who fans are a bunch of mongrel inbred retards that need to do the world a favor and shoot themselves. As for you cunt, just because the sheep you used to fuck,with your dad, said you have a needle-dick doesn't mean you have to take your anger out on me (the father who abandoned you).At least you called me sir,the technical term for some1 whos banging your sister!
jaybie2008 2 years ago
I'm sorry for treating you with some slight respect just for being a human being, I guess the term Sir shouldnt be given to children.
Let me speak slow enough and simple enough for you to understand
IF.....YOU.......DONT...LIKE...THE
(are you getting this, or am I going to quick for you)
SHOW...THEN...WHY...NOT...PISS...OFF!!!!
But your too stupid, you'll just reply by saying "Dr Cunt Who HA HA HA FUCK SHIT INBRED HA HA HA"
Why dont you take a knife and kill yourself
RYCloud92 2 years ago 2
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YOUR THE FUCKING LOSER! watching midless bullshit that is dr who. dr who is a cunt and so is any1 who watches this garbage, including the biggest cunt of all time - YOU!! u little sad man! GROW UP & GROW A PAIR!
jaybie2008 2 years ago
LOl! Really?! Your'e response is what I expect from an illiterate deviant that you are. Your birth certificate was an apology to the world. I honestly wish I could take you seriuosly, but COME ON! You spew profanity like an uneducated mongrel. This is the best you can come up with in the amount of time it has been since the last post? Really?! Enjoy the pathetic existence you have.
dormantgene 2 years ago
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icuiun 2 years ago
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And you jack off over the tardis you fucking retard piece of shit! you need to grow up HEY ARNOLD!! isnt that another piece of shit show for toddlers? like i said you lot are a bunch of sad motherfuckers!!! OWNED BITCH!!!!
jaybie2008 2 years ago
I just notieced the music at the start is a war-like version of the Gallifrey theme.
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 2 years ago
I hope they make a specials soundtrack with that on it
sailorcuteness 2 years ago
DR WHO
the MMORPG
with me?/??
murrangurk 2 years ago 2
I think the Time Lords will be back. It has never been established how the Doctor knows EVERY Gallifreyan died when the planet burned, which opens up the notion that some clever bad ones (and some good ones, who rebelled against the high council's corruption) may have slipped away.
unremoved 2 years ago
@unremoved Like Romana?
murrangurk 2 years ago
Yup, especially Romana. Would've been great if the Council scene had mentioned that some 'remnant' (led by Romana) that pined for the old days of the Time Lords was also missing.
unremoved 2 years ago
@unremoved THAT would be BRILLIANT!!!
I hear Lalla married Richard Dawkins!
But anyway, that idea is brilliant!
You should write for the show.
But if they ever made Dr Who, the MMORPG, that'd be awesomest.
murrangurk 2 years ago
Anyone noticed the war like version of the "Gallifrey, Our childhood, our home" at the beginning...
They didn deserve to die... but I think Rassilon will be back.
Lamadredetuamigo 2 years ago
@Lamadredetuamigo they didnt die...
toomuchwhiskey 2 years ago
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no! why cant the tenth doctor stay? the new trailer for the 11th doctor is crap!
kingLego123 2 years ago
Anyone else think that the gauntlet that Rassilon was wearing looking very similar to the Resurrection Gauntlet from Torchwood? Is there a chance that Russel T Davies was trying to leave more than a small connection with the two shows before he left? Beyond the simple references, that is.
melancholymistress89 2 years ago
I know people are upset that David Tennant is leaving (as am I), but keep in mind that Steven Moffat has taken over as lead writer and executive producer, and his stories have been *by far* the best. Even if Matt Smith is merely competent, we could be in for an *amazing* season of storytelling to come.
enrikan 2 years ago
who was the woman in the episode? the Doctor's mum?
doctorwhofan63 2 years ago
Yeah, she was the Doctor's mother. It was confirmed in episode commentery.
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 2 years ago
Well confirmed is using the term loosely, a bit like in The Last Of The Time Lords commentary where the Face of Boe and Jack were confirmed to be the same also by Julie Gardner...
However on the latter I tend to agree because that's some good sci fi. =D
MarkJoseph4 2 years ago
Confirmed by Russell T. Davies and Julie Gardner, and even the manager of the actress who plays 'The Woman'.
:)
XxXLucozadeXLoverXxX 2 years ago
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kids don't need to see even HINTS of gay action, and stop calling people who don't like it 'closet queers'. Jesus Christ, where's your scientific evidence...your Dad?
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
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i thought this part2 stunk! A total waste of the fantastic promise of the time lords return (loved timothy in part one) . The whole slow dying journey he went on was a slap in the face to everything that when on before it grrr im too angrey to carry on typing
chewymatty1 2 years ago
Yup it was his mum, well according to the papers anyway.
RStrangeness 2 years ago
was that the hand of omega wat he killed that woman wiv?
deathangel538 2 years ago
It's the doctors mum
=D
defiancechilde 2 years ago
Who's the old lady?
greeny500000 2 years ago
Which old lady? the Lady in white or the prophet
riguy39 2 years ago
Who was the old lady??? The doctors mum??? Lol can someone tell me who she was.. Who issss shheeeeeee??
greeny500000 2 years ago
@greeny500000
I don't think we will ever know, but it gives a strong approaach towards The Doctor being related to that person.
When Wilfred asks The Doctor who she was, he changes the subject, so obviously it could be his Mother.
He always said he had a family once, but then again he sent the Time Lords back, leaving his Mother trapped there.
But i think we will never know, maybe they want us to keep guessing and questioning.
BlueQBlue 2 years ago
this also show the Timeloads knew of how they would end and they knew it would be the Doctor and Master..they made them what they are and they made their own end.. Sad...Next Eps is going to be good..New Doctor and more.
CCorsair 2 years ago
In the end, if you want to be mathematically picky, he knocked sixteen times.
But who wants that?
Prophetically, not so ominous.
Great finale. =D
MarkJoseph4 2 years ago
RASSILON!!!!!!!
Who07700900461 2 years ago
Rassilon being the greatest of the time lords, they woken him up for lead the war.
The Master ran away when it offered to him...
CoolDojo9000 2 years ago
Killed when expressed your opinion! Looks like a good episode to me!
santanaramostarango 2 years ago
@konamaiki1 no that woman who kept appearing was Donna Noble. At the end when doctor was at the wedding, wilf asked who was that woman, then the doctor looked over Wilfs shoulder and the camera zoomed into Donna Noble in the background. Also Donna is part time lord as well so she proberly remembered.
Chelseafan4life1 2 years ago
He might just have been caught up in reverie and did not acknowledge Wilf's question. Her identity was probably purposefully left ambiguous, like that of the woman with red nails who picked up the Master's ring in the previous finale, so it could be played with or revealed at a later time. Or we may never know. I personally think that it was a relative of his. Then again, for whatever reason, Rose's theme can be heard around her.
melancholymistress89 2 years ago
i have to say when i saw matt smith at the end i thought of two people Heath Ledger in the dark knight and Paul McGann who played the 8th doctor it looks clear to me that the 11th doctor is going to be really of his rocker and i cant wait to see GERONIMO
redrover187 2 years ago
I think someone owes me an apology he was Rassilon
Chrisindapurplehouse 2 years ago 2
@Chrisindapurplehouse Hey on the forums i said the same and got yelled at and now I got 600 email on How did I know... Gee you want to win a war but have no clue how to fight .. who ya going to bring back ? Rassilon and we know see who made the Master Mad as well.. Great eps
CCorsair 2 years ago
Bit of a SPOILER! here.
But how come Rassilon is the President again, surely he is dead? ages ago?
Devonfield1c 2 years ago
Rassilon was trapped in a divergent reality in the Big Finish audios, he wasnt dead. Obviously he was brought back to lead the Time War as President.
heyarnoldsknee 2 years ago
@Devonfield1c sad has teh Master .. remember the TL's can put people from time.. its was idiot move with the power he has but to will a timeware you needed Rassilon .. and where have we seen a
Gantlet like then before?
CCorsair 2 years ago
Holy crap, it just occured to me, Wilf is really the Doctor's old buddy Drax.
filter021 2 years ago 2
RTD had to give the Master powers since the last time we saw him it was the Doctgor who had them....RTD just wanted to balance things out. :-}
brenrose 2 years ago
based on this advert I gotta wonder if the Timothy Dalton person is actually a pre-Utopia Master?!? That when his plan fell, he ran (as he does) to stay alive...
brenrose 2 years ago
Nah Timothy Dalton is The Narrator. During The Last Great Time War, The Narrator and the rest of the Timelords were locked inside a timelock. It is revealed that the drum beats in The Master's head is a signal. Like, echolocation into the future so that they can establish a link to get out of the timelock.
faytliengod004 2 years ago
aaw i just watched part 2 this evening and i cried buckets. i didnt want david to go. when he paid his last visits to the people he cared about started me bubbling my eyes out. matt smith the new doctor seems like a younger version of david tennant. same hair but longer lol
TheSnotrag2009 2 years ago 4
I thought it was hilarious that he felt his longer hair and questioned whether he had become a woman. I keep poking fun at my cousin for the same thing, hehe.
melancholymistress89 2 years ago
just fantastic - what a perfect ending. I'm so glad I had the biggest box of tissues handy at the end! Bernard Cribbin was brilliant, as was John Simm and of course the fantastic David Tennant! Loved it !!!!
SisterSeventies 2 years ago
David has been the rise of doctor who he is known far and wide because of doctor who if this new doctor makes the show worse, BBC will try bloody hard to get David back, even if the doctor has regenerated, there will be something the BBC can say to bring David back, the timelords were supposed to be dead but they weren't, don't worry guys David might return.
asbocat 2 years ago
oh my god...i'm not ready to let the Doctor go :(
imhalfninja 2 years ago
I didn't think I would be this upset but I was unconsoleable(sp?) at the end. I'm not going to put it here for people who haven't seen it yet but David's last line slayed me.
Stump2502 2 years ago
I know! I've been thinking about that last line and well it still gets me I've watched the eps 5 times.
stlouisphile 2 years ago
R.I.P. David's Doctor. :-( will miss him!
I had absolutely made up my mind to hate Matt Smith - but thought he wasn't that bad in his tiny scene! Now I feel unfaithful...
I just hope to God that 'Geronimo!!!' isn't going to be his catchphrase!
I wonder who the mysterious woman who kept contacting Wilf was?
Funniest moment - when the Doctor set Captain Jack up with Alonso!! I laughed for about five minutes!
pianofortekristina 2 years ago
@pianofortekristina Unfortunately " Geronimo" Is his catchphrase...
Like David's was Allony or something.... :S
But I can't wait till Easter Time now!!
Oh yeah and you know that woman everyone is talking about...I think she may be just may be related to The Doctor...
Remember he said he was a Dad once maybe she is his Wife Or Mother maybe Sis I dunno but I think she's Related to His Life Majorly..
timelord373 2 years ago
I honestly don't think that 'geronimo' is much worse or better than 'allons-y'. Both were are a little bit off the wall. Besides, it suited the situation at the time.
Some people think she is the Doctor's mother, wife or even Susan, others say Donna or Rose.
I wanted to laugh at Captain Jack and Alonso, but I am still irritated at how Russel T Davies handled Torchwood and Ianto. It would have had to have been a LONG time since that happened for Jack to be up to flirting. Then again, it's Jack!
melancholymistress89 2 years ago
Why dont they get someone older witha bit of presence, instead of an unworthy cad. I think he'll balls the whole show up.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago
They did have in cast the doctor who is now on stargate U. which i thought would have been a great new Doctor for the who world.. but, sadly he went with stargate... we can only hope matt can keep up with DT
lillytimelord 2 years ago
You haven't even given him a chance yet. You never know what he will be like.
melancholymistress89 2 years ago
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Yeah but captain jacks a slag with it. Knocks me sick.
MrZOMBIFICATION 2 years ago