I took a class with Robert Fritz and he said that stuff happens essentially. So it goes and it is on to the next thing. For creative people, stuff works and sometimes it doesn't. Woot!
So you're saying if (for argument's sake) I came over and raped you, the excuse would have been "if my actions could be different, they would be different, and thus are perfect as they are"... and you'd accept this?
It's a pretty philosophy. But unrealistic (in my opinion of course)
@medlazer - Thinking needs to get more expansive to get this. it's not a matter of logic here - this knowledge is beyond the mind & linear thinking of right/wrong. iI's a cognition of seeing/UNDERSTING from a deeper level that: LIFE IS A HAPPENING-beyond our conceptions of what IT "should" be.
HOWEVER, The act of rape has consequences, right? Because we accept an action as being WHAT IT IS doesn't mean we condone it! True knowledge is beyond the scope of explainable "philosopy"-it's cognized.
@dvorahji The definition of "cognized" is "possess knowledge or information about...". So you are actually contradicting yourself by saying "true knowledge is beyon the scope of" explanation. Don't assume to know the limitations of human thinking
Look, I agree that we are part of a whole. And that our choices are largely governed by many things we can't control. But you'r taking choice out of the equation. The fact that you may not condone some things proves "your life is not perfect as it is.
@medlazer from my perspective - thinking is ALWAYS limited........and choice? well from my perspective....NO CHOICE...only the appearance of choice (choosing eggs instead of pancakes or whatever) SEEMS to be a choice. NO CHOICE only a HAPPENING of What is.
"condoning/perfection all exist in the contradition of life.....My life as your life (let's not use perfect) IS exactly AS IT CAN ONLY BE. AGAIN-the appearance of choice. NO Choice. It is as it is.
Ms. D,in your video, you're suggesting that I am not the doer;then, in the next moment you talk about all the stupid/ridiculous things we do to improve our lives, "you spend money and time, yelling and screaming and making noise about 'how am I going to...'"
Dvorahji,darling, we are not the doers, so when we are spending and screaming and all the rest...It's not Us doing these things. LIFE, in that moment is choosing to spend and scream...
So if I'm not the doer, who is doing these dumb things? Can I send them a letter to stop doing them? I'm still amazed that at the age of 59 I still have the agility to bend over and kick myself in the rear ;')
Reminds me of a popular Southern saying people use when you start whining with the "woulda, coulda, shouldas" - "If the dog hadn't stopped to crap he would have caught the rabbit."
@cybervigilante ..............YOU ARE DOING IT! go ahead and take the credit and the blame......yep it's all your fault! enjoy it......now try kicking yourself in the front...NOW THAT'S A FEAT!!! lol
I took a class with Robert Fritz and he said that stuff happens essentially. So it goes and it is on to the next thing. For creative people, stuff works and sometimes it doesn't. Woot!
eottoe2001 2 months ago
So you're saying if (for argument's sake) I came over and raped you, the excuse would have been "if my actions could be different, they would be different, and thus are perfect as they are"... and you'd accept this?
It's a pretty philosophy. But unrealistic (in my opinion of course)
medlazer 7 months ago
@medlazer - Thinking needs to get more expansive to get this. it's not a matter of logic here - this knowledge is beyond the mind & linear thinking of right/wrong. iI's a cognition of seeing/UNDERSTING from a deeper level that: LIFE IS A HAPPENING-beyond our conceptions of what IT "should" be.
HOWEVER, The act of rape has consequences, right? Because we accept an action as being WHAT IT IS doesn't mean we condone it! True knowledge is beyond the scope of explainable "philosopy"-it's cognized.
dvorahji 7 months ago
@dvorahji The definition of "cognized" is "possess knowledge or information about...". So you are actually contradicting yourself by saying "true knowledge is beyon the scope of" explanation. Don't assume to know the limitations of human thinking
Look, I agree that we are part of a whole. And that our choices are largely governed by many things we can't control. But you'r taking choice out of the equation. The fact that you may not condone some things proves "your life is not perfect as it is.
medlazer 6 months ago
@medlazer from my perspective - thinking is ALWAYS limited........and choice? well from my perspective....NO CHOICE...only the appearance of choice (choosing eggs instead of pancakes or whatever) SEEMS to be a choice. NO CHOICE only a HAPPENING of What is.
"condoning/perfection all exist in the contradition of life.....My life as your life (let's not use perfect) IS exactly AS IT CAN ONLY BE. AGAIN-the appearance of choice. NO Choice. It is as it is.
dvorahji 6 months ago
you missed nothing! Yes, life is doing everything - and I MEAN EVERYTHING!
dvorahji 3 years ago
lol.
I got it
Thank you Dvorahji
GodIsTheOnlyDoer 3 years ago
Ms. D,in your video, you're suggesting that I am not the doer;then, in the next moment you talk about all the stupid/ridiculous things we do to improve our lives, "you spend money and time, yelling and screaming and making noise about 'how am I going to...'"
Dvorahji,darling, we are not the doers, so when we are spending and screaming and all the rest...It's not Us doing these things. LIFE, in that moment is choosing to spend and scream...
or did I miss something?
Please explain.
Thank you!
GodIsTheOnlyDoer 3 years ago
@GodIsTheOnlyDoer no babe, you didn't miss anything.......that's exactly what I'm saying.....so relax and scream your head off! hahahahhaah
dvorahji 6 months ago
So if I'm not the doer, who is doing these dumb things? Can I send them a letter to stop doing them? I'm still amazed that at the age of 59 I still have the agility to bend over and kick myself in the rear ;')
Reminds me of a popular Southern saying people use when you start whining with the "woulda, coulda, shouldas" - "If the dog hadn't stopped to crap he would have caught the rabbit."
cybervigilante 3 years ago
@cybervigilante ..............YOU ARE DOING IT! go ahead and take the credit and the blame......yep it's all your fault! enjoy it......now try kicking yourself in the front...NOW THAT'S A FEAT!!! lol
dvorahji 6 months ago