It makes a refreshing change to hear a Scientologist actually try to argue their case for once. I mean she wasn't very convincing but she seemed alot more human than many others I have seen (no doubt because she was low down on the bridge) and I find it very interesting to hear them try to defend the wacky, embarrassing or sinister aspects of their cult. Anyway, great video as ever AGP, I'm a big fan! Lets hope more speak to you instead of running scared.
@ 1:03 "but your understanding of it is in a very basic black and white way"
oh really ? and how should one color L Ron's scriptures??? hhmmmm??
grey?, green?, yellow or pink?? hmmm? don't get it chicky, i see evrything either one way or another, get it? it is either in or out, up or down, skinny or ...well you get the picture.. of course wiggle room is guaranteed in the area of ARTS AND MUSIC... but "science" fuck no suga-draws black and fucking white!!
You can believe that they will use the informations you gave them against you, specially when you are not any longer conform with the doctrine of the church
I cant belive this person is upset with this , he should read the bible" the foundation of most christian religions " which says homosexuals should be put to death in fact no religion promotes homosexuals . The Satanic bible however will leave a homosexual to his own device ......some people just like this guy like to start trouble . I will just say he has the right to his opinion, thats a right.
Stupid cunt. She states that AGP doesn't know what he's talking about, but she acts like an expert on mental illnesses, chemical imbalances, and psychiatry. I just want to kick her boyfriend in the vagina.
fighting religion is like vietnam for the senses, you are trying to attack faith with knowledge and science has been trying to do that for years...besides go after the roots not the leaves you seem to know more than they do
It's so irritating how when a wog mentions (to a $cientologist) some of the $cientology tech, practises, policies, etc. the $cino has to ask - do you actually know or understand what that means/what that is? as if the wog or SP has simply misinterpreted it - because they are unable to understand the secret complexity of the tech. A mere wog couldn't possibly grasp it in all of it's profundity - only $cientologists can because they've actually studied the tech.
@nowgleaning I agree. And when you say "I read dianetics and it was stupid" they say "But did you really READ it?" Once again, it must be my fault I didn't get it. Sci is all about making people with low esteem think it is their fault.
Gotta love it when you bring up something controversial about someone else's religion, and they try to opt out of the debate with, "Well, I've never heard that." Then guess what? That means I probably know more about your religion than you do.
i disagree with those who claim that two specific people show signs of being brainwashed. .. and nobody tried to insult anybody on either side here. i just don't like it when ppl search for anything. they are creating it in their own minds ahead of time. if you go too extreme, any argument or view loses its power. i'm only referring to some comments here, the video itself is fine. in some other videos, there are most certainly some pretty serious behavioral issues with these people.
Please people cop on to yourself and don't be sucked into this shit. That guy there read books and that british witch carries on talking smack until she realizes she is getting no where and walks off. I notice she dosent mention the cancer people that have dies. For instance one woman dies due to by teh time she left Scientology she had in curable cancer because they told she whilst she was in Scientology she couldnt use the medication etc.
It appears that you cannot converse and point a camera to save your life. Oh well, if only you had stayed in Scientology, you may have been taught the proper way to question people and wring the truth from them pointing your camera up their noses, all at the same time. Guess you got out of that cult before they could make you purrrfect - as in clear. You wouldn't even need to hold the camera if you had made ot8, it would just hover around your target as your subconscious took care of the camera
Remember brainwashing = hypnosis + intimidation + caring. Maybe they even use drugs as a part of the wash, simply to get the wash work on certain difficult steps on the ladder.
the very very sad part is that she will be punished for talking to anonymous. so sad. and she even disscussed OT8. poor girl. damn, where the hell is the goverment! or the FBI or what ever! damn it! poor people.
@TheEndOfScientology Well its not their fault they are brainwashed, and i guess you arent blaming them. There is also a socalled big star who happens to be brainwashed member of scientology, there is in fact several. The sad thing is, some of them will probably stay in the cult for life, but other will succeed to leave. It all depends of how long the brainwashing will work. Brainwashing will work longer on some than other.
The cult doesn't like anyone speaking about them to 'non-believers'. Especially groups they hate like Anonymous. She was more than likely punished for this.
She sounds just like my friend Bryan did... she's a newbie. I guarantee it. But, she'll be tougher to save because her family are Scientologists. One hell of a paranoid cult and the cult members who have family in it are very indoctrinated. Luckily my friend was only in it a year and a half. He got out recently and his parents are VERY happy. He had been disconnected for NO REASON. The Angry Gay Pope played this one very well... excellent video.
Just MENTION OT8 and they run. Because they are brainwashed into believing they will DIE if they hear it prematurely(without paying big bucks for it). I love it!!!! More AGP please.
I just watched this again.I think there would be hope for this lady if all her family weren't inside.She seems more open to discussion than most Scientologists.I think maybe she was extra defensive because the cute guy was possibly not a Scilon or was new to it and she was trying to convert him.
Throughsoul;your judgements about AGP really show the true nature of your so-called 'church'.
Haha -- I like when she says "Do you understand the Tone Scale?"
Is there any special "understanding" needed to figure out that being at 1.1 , or "covert hostility" on the Tone Scale, is bad? Scientologists hide behind the fake technical jargon that Hubbard used to try and make it seem like their critics don't understand Scientology.
I've heard several Scientologists make unflattering remarks about gays, and they were obviously just parroting Hubbard's BS.
Yes on jargon. Renaming things that don't need renamed like "happiness" to be "upstat" makes it sound like they have special scientific insights into the same problems life has always had. That they are special and different. Anonymous, the protest group, does the same thing with their "lulz" and other "secret words."
This fits Lron and his cronies perfectly! So I guess you're in good company then XD
Considering ol' Flubbernutz was an insane deviant, charlatan, conman, delusiional & compulsive liar, that makes his victims/followers, hm, what 'tone' level?
Happy Dead Lron day! If there's afterlife I'm sure he's still wallowing through all the bullshit he created, haunted by his multitude of dead victims in his own hell (that for $ u 2 can share).
AGP - You have a limited understanding of the tone scale. One can be homosexual and still overall higher on the scale. The issue of homosexual or straight IS NOT THE ISSUE. Its only ONE column on the chart which has the purpose to assist people to locate others on the tone scale.
Commonly, 1.1 individuals act perverted. But that does not mean all people with perverted tendency or homosexual or whatever are necessarily 1.1. There are like 40 other columns to locate one on the scale.
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But, lets break it down starting with your name, Angry Gay Pope.
Anger is 1.5 on the scale. Homosexuality is at 1.1. Pope indicates either someone who is exalted and benevolent or one who is assertively preaching. By how you speak in your videos, I would go with the assertive, forceful, antagonistic preaching type. The Reality column shows this again at 1.5. And I also know you are HIV positive, indicating that you are irresponsible and that is a 1.1 characteristic.
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Most importantly, the method by which you attempt to control others is slanted towards invalidating seemingly attempting to catch someone in an error to nullify them or make them wrong. It is at the very least nagging and bluntly critical.
So that is 1.5, 1.1, 1.5, 1.1, and 1.1 to 1.5 that averages to Resentment 1.3. And even though people do rise and fall on the scale moment to moment it does seem that your range is all low points and therefore far more a liability to society.
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So that sums it up for me. Your value to society and your preaching are nearly worthless and any apparent worth is completely outweighed by your vicious intention to destroy. Your almost to the bottom, time is running out, which is probably why youre so hysterical to destroy as much before you die from your irresponsible choices.
WOW and if he didn't die $cientology would "Dispose of him quietly and without sorrow" which is what they plan to do, if they ever came to power, to anyone under 2.0 on the tonescale.
I'm sure the pope would but do you have any idea how MUCH that books weighs? Much like the pope's weiner, it is too large to be just "pulled out" whenever.
The book that goes heavy into this is Science Of Survival where eLron says gays & other "sexual deviants" are, as Pope says, 1.1 on the tone scale, Covert Hostility & eLron also says this tone is THE MOST DANGEROUS on the scale. It's the liar, back- stabber & the criminal: eLron ought to know; he lied about his past & his achievements; let his wife & other high ranking $ciLentologists take the rap & go to jail for him & is a crook & Con-Artist whose $CAM has robbed people of all their money!
Exactly, thanks for reminding me: Murder and induced suicides, as well. As the old sci-fag said "People accuse others of what they're doing themselves." Touche, eLron eLray! ;P
Yes that has been checked out. Francesca Pala, the slapper, looks different and has prominent teeth but they are both gorgeous, have fancy accents, and beautiful male companions.
It makes a refreshing change to hear a Scientologist actually try to argue their case for once. I mean she wasn't very convincing but she seemed alot more human than many others I have seen (no doubt because she was low down on the bridge) and I find it very interesting to hear them try to defend the wacky, embarrassing or sinister aspects of their cult. Anyway, great video as ever AGP, I'm a big fan! Lets hope more speak to you instead of running scared.
Ndugu82 2 months ago
The word Scientology scares me
youdevil6 3 months ago
I'd love to watch the Britchick sweat!!!
sauroid1 3 months ago
@ 1:03 "but your understanding of it is in a very basic black and white way"
oh really ? and how should one color L Ron's scriptures??? hhmmmm??
grey?, green?, yellow or pink?? hmmm? don't get it chicky, i see evrything either one way or another, get it? it is either in or out, up or down, skinny or ...well you get the picture.. of course wiggle room is guaranteed in the area of ARTS AND MUSIC... but "science" fuck no suga-draws black and fucking white!!
AM I RIGHT??
fzappa007 5 months ago
lol love her boyfriends "ohh god she's talking again..." face.
Cinthorc 7 months ago 2
You can believe that they will use the informations you gave them against you, specially when you are not any longer conform with the doctrine of the church
lobboderwolf 7 months ago
I cant belive this person is upset with this , he should read the bible" the foundation of most christian religions " which says homosexuals should be put to death in fact no religion promotes homosexuals . The Satanic bible however will leave a homosexual to his own device ......some people just like this guy like to start trouble . I will just say he has the right to his opinion, thats a right.
electricmusicmagic 7 months ago
@electricmusicmagic Uh-huh.
TheEndOfScientology 7 months ago
Stupid cunt. She states that AGP doesn't know what he's talking about, but she acts like an expert on mental illnesses, chemical imbalances, and psychiatry. I just want to kick her boyfriend in the vagina.
zombyfart 8 months ago
fighting religion is like vietnam for the senses, you are trying to attack faith with knowledge and science has been trying to do that for years...besides go after the roots not the leaves you seem to know more than they do
Jerseyelite89 8 months ago
It's so irritating how when a wog mentions (to a $cientologist) some of the $cientology tech, practises, policies, etc. the $cino has to ask - do you actually know or understand what that means/what that is? as if the wog or SP has simply misinterpreted it - because they are unable to understand the secret complexity of the tech. A mere wog couldn't possibly grasp it in all of it's profundity - only $cientologists can because they've actually studied the tech.
Give me a break!
nowgleaning 9 months ago
@nowgleaning I agree. And when you say "I read dianetics and it was stupid" they say "But did you really READ it?" Once again, it must be my fault I didn't get it. Sci is all about making people with low esteem think it is their fault.
TheEndOfScientology 9 months ago
Wow people are crazy like her
NewEngland33 9 months ago
@NewEngland33 Yes she is and yet she is the sanest Sci I've talked to!
TheEndOfScientology 9 months ago
AGP kicks ass AGAIN.
joeypolanski 11 months ago
Gotta love it when you bring up something controversial about someone else's religion, and they try to opt out of the debate with, "Well, I've never heard that." Then guess what? That means I probably know more about your religion than you do.
blingerninja 11 months ago
She's really cute. Too bad.
TheAdultChild101 1 year ago
@TheAdultChild101 They often are.
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago
@TheEndOfScientology Indeed. All crappy organizations use the cute youngsters for their billboards. (((sigh))).
TheAdultChild101 1 year ago
@TheAdultChild101 Exactly. One time we protested the CCHR anti-psychiatry museum and the women inside looked like a bunch of panicked barbie dolls!
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago
@TheEndOfScientology You big meanie.
TheAdultChild101 1 year ago
The guy beside her is very hypnotizable, watch his eye movements as Pope moves his hand.
randallpalmer1967 1 year ago
@randallpalmer1967 Does he blink?
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago
@TheEndOfScientology His blink rate does slow down, if he was by himself you could have broken him down. BTW, I'm a Big Fan of yours Pope!
randallpalmer1967 1 year ago
That's some nice work there.
MrMonkeyInk 1 year ago
it's not a procedure it's a course of actions you take. LMAO.
snakeandbake 1 year ago
i disagree with those who claim that two specific people show signs of being brainwashed. .. and nobody tried to insult anybody on either side here. i just don't like it when ppl search for anything. they are creating it in their own minds ahead of time. if you go too extreme, any argument or view loses its power. i'm only referring to some comments here, the video itself is fine. in some other videos, there are most certainly some pretty serious behavioral issues with these people.
chrisbx1975x 1 year ago
@chrisbx1975x She is almost the only scientologist who has ever talked to me so she really doesn't know the rules!
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago
@TheEndOfScientology that i agree with.
chrisbx1975x 1 year ago
Please people cop on to yourself and don't be sucked into this shit. That guy there read books and that british witch carries on talking smack until she realizes she is getting no where and walks off. I notice she dosent mention the cancer people that have dies. For instance one woman dies due to by teh time she left Scientology she had in curable cancer because they told she whilst she was in Scientology she couldnt use the medication etc.
ThisBitchBites99 1 year ago 2
How is it a black and white when he says he has read teh bok. Cop on lady.
ThisBitchBites99 1 year ago
ffs, no religion likes homosexuals, if you like being one just be one. You cant make people like it or you.
numinouslayers1 1 year ago
It appears that you cannot converse and point a camera to save your life. Oh well, if only you had stayed in Scientology, you may have been taught the proper way to question people and wring the truth from them pointing your camera up their noses, all at the same time. Guess you got out of that cult before they could make you purrrfect - as in clear. You wouldn't even need to hold the camera if you had made ot8, it would just hover around your target as your subconscious took care of the camera
goofydog2 1 year ago
@goofydog2 I was never a scientologist.
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago
@TheEndOfScientology I was just saying... crazy, stuck cameras, they don't make em like they use to...
goofydog2 1 year ago
Remember brainwashing = hypnosis + intimidation + caring. Maybe they even use drugs as a part of the wash, simply to get the wash work on certain difficult steps on the ladder.
globe255 1 year ago
I will admit, she's cute as fuck
jtkalehua 1 year ago
I like how they try to insult him, but he just goes on telling the truth. It' s so much win.
spermcubearchives 1 year ago
the very very sad part is that she will be punished for talking to anonymous. so sad. and she even disscussed OT8. poor girl. damn, where the hell is the goverment! or the FBI or what ever! damn it! poor people.
AeolianX 1 year ago
Holy shit, just look at them they're fucking robots, you can see the brainwashing in their eyes. It's fucking sad.
jtkalehua 1 year ago 5
@jtkalehua Yeah and she's the one with personality! The others are even more zombified.
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago 2
@TheEndOfScientology Well its not their fault they are brainwashed, and i guess you arent blaming them. There is also a socalled big star who happens to be brainwashed member of scientology, there is in fact several. The sad thing is, some of them will probably stay in the cult for life, but other will succeed to leave. It all depends of how long the brainwashing will work. Brainwashing will work longer on some than other.
globe255 1 year ago
Most english women are better educated than the american aparently.
globe255 1 year ago
$he would be hot if $he wasn't a $cilon.....and if $he was sane.
logansGT 1 year ago
You forgot to spell sane with an $ !
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago
Lol.....au contraire, mon frere.
Typing "sane" was deliberate. When the subject is $cientology, $ has nothing to do with sanity.
logansGT 1 year ago
You speak french but your avatar is an italian? Don't get fancy with me Frenchy!
TheEndOfScientology 1 year ago
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logansGT 1 year ago
I'm having a problem posting. Let's try again:
@TheEndOf$cientology - "Frenchy?" Thanks for a good laugh, Endo.
I'm neither French nor Italian. That was the only French I know, besides kissing :o)
Guess I'm kind of eclectic. I know a little about a lot of things, but not a lot about anything in particular.
My avatar, if you don't know, is Father Guido Sarducci, a character on the original Saturday Night LIve TV show years ago; funny dude.
Gotta go.....ciao!
(See, I speak Italian, too) lol
logansGT 1 year ago
I will inject many things in her.
MindMyFist 2 years ago 2
wish you would get on her face the whole way
Anonymous9104 2 years ago
She is now a PTS. Maybe now she can finally leave this cult and be free.
3030anon 2 years ago
why do you say that? (she's PTS?)
Anonymous9104 2 years ago
The cult doesn't like anyone speaking about them to 'non-believers'. Especially groups they hate like Anonymous. She was more than likely punished for this.
Also, P.T.S. = Potential Trouble Source.
3030anon 2 years ago
i wanna make scientology love with her
zoeylatino 2 years ago
At least this cult member talked. And know we can see that thay believe in quack cures instead of proven medical help!
Falsecults 2 years ago
"We will very much ruin their night..." YES!!!!
magikamerika 2 years ago 2
Thankfully Scientology has no hopes of achieving any significant power as long as it keeps recruiting such stupid people.
Thankfully it takes stupid/weak people to be recruited into Scientology.
Cinthorc 2 years ago 2
for the record that chick needs a cock in her mouf.. LRH style...
thelonius2000 2 years ago
haha jeah she is hot;)
zoeylatino 2 years ago
LOL!!! People actually thumbed that down.. I want to inject this $cislut with Thetans... all over her face kid.
thelonius2000 2 years ago
these 'people' are anti humanity.
stratocaster539 2 years ago 2
Sometimes someone will talk - distracting the camera and then they pull some stupid stunt - like they trip or fall and say that YOU did it.
darthspeaks 2 years ago
Wish he wouldn't leave his camera on the guy. She was the one who was being interviewed!
LRonScarface 2 years ago
and she had some amazing DSLs
unh0lybac0n 2 years ago
She sounds just like my friend Bryan did... she's a newbie. I guarantee it. But, she'll be tougher to save because her family are Scientologists. One hell of a paranoid cult and the cult members who have family in it are very indoctrinated. Luckily my friend was only in it a year and a half. He got out recently and his parents are VERY happy. He had been disconnected for NO REASON. The Angry Gay Pope played this one very well... excellent video.
DeadEnd39 2 years ago 3
Just MENTION OT8 and they run. Because they are brainwashed into believing they will DIE if they hear it prematurely(without paying big bucks for it). I love it!!!! More AGP please.
analyzingfunny 3 years ago 6
@analyzingfunny It's like a Harry Potter fan prematurely finding out Snape kills Dumbledore.
blingerninja 11 months ago
lol good video... protest fair game
frogzzee 3 years ago 3
I just watched this again.I think there would be hope for this lady if all her family weren't inside.She seems more open to discussion than most Scientologists.I think maybe she was extra defensive because the cute guy was possibly not a Scilon or was new to it and she was trying to convert him.
Throughsoul;your judgements about AGP really show the true nature of your so-called 'church'.
wickermanburningowl 3 years ago
LOL "they" automatically tiggers them to thinking youre SP when youre talking about a group of people... I.E. "they".
It's funny, give it some more time and literally "everyone" will know Scientology is a cult.
NotQuiteBoba 3 years ago
Haha -- I like when she says "Do you understand the Tone Scale?"
Is there any special "understanding" needed to figure out that being at 1.1 , or "covert hostility" on the Tone Scale, is bad? Scientologists hide behind the fake technical jargon that Hubbard used to try and make it seem like their critics don't understand Scientology.
I've heard several Scientologists make unflattering remarks about gays, and they were obviously just parroting Hubbard's BS.
NarkAnon 3 years ago 2
Yes on jargon. Renaming things that don't need renamed like "happiness" to be "upstat" makes it sound like they have special scientific insights into the same problems life has always had. That they are special and different. Anonymous, the protest group, does the same thing with their "lulz" and other "secret words."
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
Hmm scientology just another bullshit religion to me!
jamie30701 3 years ago 2
English chicks are so boneable
sixstringpsyco 3 years ago
@throughsoul> "Commonly, 1.1 individuals act perverted."
This fits Lron and his cronies perfectly! So I guess you're in good company then XD
Considering ol' Flubbernutz was an insane deviant, charlatan, conman, delusiional & compulsive liar, that makes his victims/followers, hm, what 'tone' level?
Happy Dead Lron day! If there's afterlife I'm sure he's still wallowing through all the bullshit he created, haunted by his multitude of dead victims in his own hell (that for $ u 2 can share).
Ogsonofgroo 3 years ago
AGP - You have a limited understanding of the tone scale. One can be homosexual and still overall higher on the scale. The issue of homosexual or straight IS NOT THE ISSUE. Its only ONE column on the chart which has the purpose to assist people to locate others on the tone scale.
Commonly, 1.1 individuals act perverted. But that does not mean all people with perverted tendency or homosexual or whatever are necessarily 1.1. There are like 40 other columns to locate one on the scale.
throughsoul 3 years ago
This is not AGP. Do you talk like this all the time? BANNED.
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
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But, lets break it down starting with your name, Angry Gay Pope.
Anger is 1.5 on the scale. Homosexuality is at 1.1. Pope indicates either someone who is exalted and benevolent or one who is assertively preaching. By how you speak in your videos, I would go with the assertive, forceful, antagonistic preaching type. The Reality column shows this again at 1.5. And I also know you are HIV positive, indicating that you are irresponsible and that is a 1.1 characteristic.
throughsoul 3 years ago
I can't believe how much FREE auditing I am getting! I'm feeling more upstat already!
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
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Most importantly, the method by which you attempt to control others is slanted towards invalidating seemingly attempting to catch someone in an error to nullify them or make them wrong. It is at the very least nagging and bluntly critical.
So that is 1.5, 1.1, 1.5, 1.1, and 1.1 to 1.5 that averages to Resentment 1.3. And even though people do rise and fall on the scale moment to moment it does seem that your range is all low points and therefore far more a liability to society.
throughsoul 3 years ago
I detected some rage here throughsoul. Perhaps that is why you only have 1 friend on your youtube channel? The poor pope doesn't deserve this!
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
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So that sums it up for me. Your value to society and your preaching are nearly worthless and any apparent worth is completely outweighed by your vicious intention to destroy. Your almost to the bottom, time is running out, which is probably why youre so hysterical to destroy as much before you die from your irresponsible choices.
throughsoul 3 years ago
Tell me more!
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
WOW and if he didn't die $cientology would "Dispose of him quietly and without sorrow" which is what they plan to do, if they ever came to power, to anyone under 2.0 on the tonescale.
thelonius2000 2 years ago
Nice one Bro!
lord69z 3 years ago
They always preach about not being for chemical intake, yet they drink hard liquor and smoke like a chimney.
Fucking idiots.
SeeYouNextFall 3 years ago 2
AGP, pull out the book.... pull out the goddamn book. Show these faggots that they hate homos. lol.
HoustonMarcab 3 years ago 2
I'm sure the pope would but do you have any idea how MUCH that books weighs? Much like the pope's weiner, it is too large to be just "pulled out" whenever.
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
The book that goes heavy into this is Science Of Survival where eLron says gays & other "sexual deviants" are, as Pope says, 1.1 on the tone scale, Covert Hostility & eLron also says this tone is THE MOST DANGEROUS on the scale. It's the liar, back- stabber & the criminal: eLron ought to know; he lied about his past & his achievements; let his wife & other high ranking $ciLentologists take the rap & go to jail for him & is a crook & Con-Artist whose $CAM has robbed people of all their money!
jdtrickster4 3 years ago
Don't forget the gay son who died under suspicious circumstances.
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
Exactly, thanks for reminding me: Murder and induced suicides, as well. As the old sci-fag said "People accuse others of what they're doing themselves." Touche, eLron eLray! ;P
jdtrickster4 3 years ago
This girl sounds EXACTLY like the girl who slapped the pope's camera before? The one what was on the motocycle? I think you should compare?
This may be the same gal?
At any rate, pity these two are so young and clueless. Maybe they will research and wake up.
dasboatbabe 3 years ago
Yes that has been checked out. Francesca Pala, the slapper, looks different and has prominent teeth but they are both gorgeous, have fancy accents, and beautiful male companions.
TheEndOfScientology 3 years ago
What a stupid bitch.
JohnDoe280 3 years ago