If Adobe were a different sort of a company, they'd have opened up the Shockwave format to the W3C to implement as a standard browser feature, and sell the Flash SDK!!
Mobile Flash is a problem because Adobe's C++ code won't run on ARM based devices, they'd have to do a lot of rewriting and also long-term testing to get it working...
Flash's problem, and performance advantage is C++. Browsers are written in C++, so the thinking is that as more functions appear in the browser, you won't need a plugin. In actual fact, apple's iOS browsers don't support any plugins, it's not just Flash.
Adobe could perfectly feasibly write their own flash enabled iOS browser and release it as an app. They haven't done this. They're lazy, really!!
Sry, Steve Jobs wasnt totally right about Flash. Flash didnt just "died", Steve Jobs "killed" Flash. Besides, Apple uses the image that Steve Jobs has as propaganda, advertising. Specially now that Steve Jobs died, apple is Abusing on the image that Steve Jobs left. Business is Business. Apple is good, Steve Jobs was a great, but that dosnt means Adobe Flash isnt a great Software. Its just that Apple was (and is) getting more money when they limits the hardware usability. This time, they won...
The fact is not weather Flash is good or bad. The fact is that the platform maker (Apple) should let developers (Adobe) buil what they want. Then the marked decides what is good or bad.
In this case we have the platform maker deciding for their own commercial reasons what is good or bad for other developers to build. This is horrible.
Adobe is not discontinuing Flash. They're discontinuing Flash only for smart phones and tablets. Flash will still continue to grow and flourish for desktops - even macs.
FYI - Director isn't even dead (or discontinued), even though I haven't developed with it in years.
Technology doesn't die, but it may eventually stop being used as Mr. Jobs indicated. All people will die though, regardless of the "great" technology that is developed to hopefully increase our lifespan...
@solomonster22 What was Flash before AIR will pick up. Flash Player in its concept is old. It has very poor persitence, system limitations, lack of support for input devices that mobile world is providing now. AIR solves this, it will grow.
Steve Jobs was just lying. Flash is better than Html5 whatever it is allowed to run on. HTML5 is even pathetic on iOS compared to the examples of Flash on jailbroken iOS.
Only Apple biased idiots can believe Apple is doing them a favor by not letting them view 93% of web pages correctly. So stupid! If Apple customers were really smart they would demand that their toys accept the only standardized, rich-content internet technology.
Flash trashes HTML5 & is here to stay, get over it!
@MarkMifsud HTML5 is an attempt to mimic Flex contextual components and implement them in HTML. So instead of HTML4 div class tag we have nav tag. Wow what an improvement since most of the pages we open are dynamically generated one way or another. Flash is a virtual machine which gives developers one promise it will behave same way in any environment. Try that with HTML, any HTML.
@sitelime Keep repeating your challenge... maybe someone will spin the world backwards and Flash can become relevant again. Flash, as predicted by Steve Jobs, was on the decline of their existence. Don't be sad, you'll adapt to HTML5... You sound spunky. The bottom line is, Apple deciding not to use Flash single-handedly killed them. Furthermore, the middle-aged-man comment made me laugh, and I hate you for it.
I would challenge any html 5 programmer to reproduce what I can create in Flash, but that would be like challenging a bicycle with a Ferrari.
He was out to protect App store billions in profits from the free apps which Flash on iOS would have permitted. I know lot's of people who bought iPads completely unaware that there would be no Flash on them, and were severely disappointed. Spoke to yet another one this morning.
@sitelime Where are you finding these morons that don't yet know that iPhone/iPad = no Flash? Anyone that 1) doesn't yet know that, and 2) doesn't do their research before spending $500-$1000 is, quite frankly, an idiot.
No one cares about Flash. It's funny, for a VERY brief period of time, it was, "Man,I can't see this site on my iPhone/iPad, that sucks", but now it's, "This dumb-ass site is in Flash, I'll never go to that site again". Your "Ferrari" is a Pinto, homey.
@Haldered Where is that fact exactly? It discontinued mobile support, not Flash, as haters are hoping.
Smart move I say. HTML5 is great, and I code with it too. Just like I own a bicycle... and also a real car.
You guys have been saying "Flash is Dead" for two years. If you really believe it, then why keep saying it? Or is this some kind of manifestation thing? You keep saying it and it will happen one day...
movie companies run flash on their websites to promote movies! so not all websites running html5 which made products don't equip with flash, inferior!
it's jobs's personal grudge against adobe who betrayed him a decade ago! adobe refused to make apps for mac osx because of minimal users of mac compared to pc users. this pissed steve way off! read the book on steve jobs, it explain there!
The real reason Apple doesn't alow Flash is because Adobe figured out a way to make Flash really fast and efficient by actually using the video accelerators of the video card itself. This began on Flash V 10.1. Apple, with their proprietary attitude, would not alow Adope to have access to it's video hardware. So who suffers because of Apple's obnoxious attitude: why all you Apple users of course.
It's a good thing Apple doesn't produce automobiles. Being the control freaks they are, your radio may only get predetermined stations. Your car would be limited to 65mph, there would be special Apple gas stations which would have the only nozzel that fits the gas tank, and unless you grip the steering wheel in a 1 oclock and 8 oclock position, your car would stop. And only Apple approved garages could change your oil at the double the cost.
@timbalion Makes the wild claim that flash AS OF TODAY will not be available on ANY mobile devices. Gee, Apple Cultist Zoid, many of the ads for really smart phones, other than Iphone of course, play up the flash playing ability of their phones, especially ALL ANDROID phones. One of the ads says "And unlike the Apple products this smart phone plays all Flash videos." This Apple automotron also says he loves that Apple are control freaks and loves being controlled by them. Hmmmm, STRANGE!
In other words, Jobs was a control freak, telling people what they can and cannot do with Apple's extremely expensive products. I don't like someone telling me I can't use this or that software on my computer, thus, I have never and will never own an Apple product.
@antilibercrat the cost of products does not factor into this debate. apple love being control freaks and i love apple for that! i have the best products i could ever own, from apple.
also, apple have never limited Flash on Macs. never.
and btw, as of today, there's no more Flash Player on mobile devices. so looks like you can't do what you "need" to do on your Playbook or Android device! shame.
HTML 5 sucks on my windows xp, but then again, everything sucks on my windows xp... Haha any suggestions as to how I could fix this? Because flash is soooo buggy and annoying and HTML 5 is only a little better...
@timbalion The HTML6 part was a joke -- nice catch! I work with HTML5 for a living so I'd hope I know what it looks like! Although Flash Mobile is 'dead' in the developmental sense (I never liked Flash), it's going to take time until HTML5 takes its place. That's just fact. HTML5 has yet to prove itself with high quality/premium content. There are a number of reasons HTML5 has not yet been adopted by the big services. This is a great day for HTML5 though. It'll make my days that much easier.
@timbalion Yes it is, on HTML5 the video is finished render in an open video format, its a modern and snappy format...it just plays with everything. Flash has to unpack and sometimes render the video with use depending on devices, its troublesome and lacks versatility.
Face it gramps, the new stuff is powering through...enjoy your VHS.
@OleVanDole the quality of the video and audio playback is no different though. the speed it gets to you may be, but quality is no better. but HTML5 is the future.
Without first buying the product and using it, how does one assess if it is good? For instance a movie could do really well at the box office, but that doesn't immediately mean that everyone that bought a ticket liked it. To me sales don't represent quality, but rather they represent marketability.
I have to say, I have an iPad and not having Flash hasn't affected me 1 bit. Tome it makes sense for companies to move on from Flash. Adobe gets paid when a company uses flash on it machines, or develops content via flash. HTML 5 is open for anyone to use and they don't have to pay Adobe 1 cent. It's a good business strategy. Oh and by the way, flash is slow as balls. I don't and won't miss it. Adobe makes some great software (who can touch photoshop - noone). It's just that Flash has it's day.
I have to say, I have an iPad and not having Flash hasn't affected me 1 bit. Tome it makes sense for companies to move on from Flash. Adobe gets paid when a company uses flash on it machines, or develops content via flash. HTML 5 is open for anyone to use and they don't have to pay Adobe 1 cent. It's a good business strategy. Oh and by the way, flash is slow as balls. I don't and won't miss it. Adobe makes some great software (who can touch photoshop - noone). It's just that Flash has it's day.
at the end of the video he starts talking about how abode made the "stink" about not having flash on the iphone and they said get it running fast and bring it back and well check it out... um i doubt what they said to adobe was as simple as "we dont wanna use it" just by listening to the way he talks.
adn ppl dont pay apple to do shit. apple sells products to sheeple.
the reason why flash on ipad should've stayed because youtube runs on flash... most websites have flash... i know its crap compared to htlm5 but until html5 is widely established on all popular websites in full & mobile version then flash should be a choice... right now i'm sick of mobile youtube saying 'cannot be played on mobile' & i miss the full version features of youtube... it just would be nice to run the desktop version of youtube on ipad because the screen is big enough.
@MasterFProductions I have an iPad and I can watch the videos on YouTube website (Desktop version). I haven't done anything or installed anything. I haven't done a jailbreak or anything. It just works for me.
The fact that apple products don't use flash is a personal choice by steve. He knows that flash will only be on the decline if apple doesn't use it. If apple products did use flash, it would be used plenty more over other formats currently compatable with apple products. Thank you Steve Jobs, you son of a bitch...
I don't think Apple really wants to "crush" anybody. Thing is, they knew flash wouldn't work well on the iPad (for now). I would rather my consumer complain about a feature being absent then a feature sucking.
Let's face it, once tablets have good enough hardware, there will be no reason to complain. But I don't think tablets will ever be the most viable way to do serious work.
4:22 and if we dont they wont: when i bought the ipad2 i was under the damn impression i could use every app/ player needed to view movies! To all the people clapping at that moment i say come up with a working flas player instead then instead ofnclapping assholes!
I've said "bye bye" Adobe Flash and and "hello" to Adobe Edge in terms of web development. I used Flash since Macromedia days, but since there's a huge demography in iOS devices and other non-flash supporting products, I want to make my sites available for every platform as possible.
Wallaby is great, but Edge looks way more promising to me at least :P
Funny that i'm watching this video on my galaxy s 2 with the desktop youtube version. And i actually have no trouble at all. Fluid playback, NO LAG and easy webbrowsing. Adobe has potential, on dual core smartphones there is absolutley no problem.
Flash is such an unruly program with so many bugs in it that we're going to run all our devices on HTML5 which no one uses for entertainment and is brand new to the internet. Also when you start experiencing problems with HTML5 we'll be sure to blame Adobe.
Given how easy it is for android to use flash, I'm sure all the iphone based stuff could run it too. Could there be something apple isn't telling us about Flash?
To be honest, apple should stop being stubborn about not supporting flash and just put it in, could it really hurt that much. It seems like Steve is hiding something. Every bad point about the ipad Steve has very suspiciously defended.
Well as far as im concerned if people want their websites to be view on iPads then they need to use HTML5, if not stick to flash, i dont see why this is a huge problem, apple said no and they are still selling like crazy, their is no point to fight over this, its just stupid, if you want flash go stick to another tablet!
Steve Jobs is a maniacal horses ass. He knows that his Mac Fanboys will continue to buy anything the lord god jobs decrees to be the gospel. I am using a Mac right now. I have an old G4 eMac that I purchased new in '05. I do not have an iPhone or an iPad. I will not do so until they quit doing stupid stuff like this. Everybody knows that Steve Jobs is dying. Maybe after his death, apple can quit doing stupid things. I also look forward to a mac laptop with a right-click button. Another fiasco!
they are betting on stuff that will go up in the market but they do not take into consideration the "user" facts...the "user" needs...ipad was a best seller due to the design,i wonder what would apple do without it's lead designers...
Steve Jobs seems to be a man who thinks he would have the power to change the whole computer business if he wants to. But in the next 5 years he won't be able to kick out Flash, because the people don't have any problems with it! It works quickly, in HD quality , so what's his problem with Flash?
i pud shoul be utility tool. like a car. steve, it is like you build a car that can't go on every street. just because u consider some street not god is non a god reason for to make a car limitaded. bacause is this the right word for i pad: limitated!
You are not watching this video on youtube because the flash, as to my limited knowledge flash is only wrapper for video streaming. And come to think of it, I have never been on a flash site that worked 100% properly, it was allways all style, some substance...etc (I am not talking of sites that have so called "flash video")
People mostly buy Apple computers because of the new age ideas, appearance of quality and ingenuity of their products. Sadly Apple does stupid thing's like depriving customers (the people keeping them in business) of using certain applications, and having bullshit restrictions on running certain things. As for battery levels, I honesty believe that people don't particularly care if flash uses more power, this is protecting people from themselves. APPLE NEEDS TO ALLOW FLASH simple as that.
If flash is so bad why do so many websites use it? If flash is not suitable for Apple products what is wrong with Apple? Is flash so bad that people can't be given the liberty of CHOICE what on earth is up with Apple? Flash not a stable program? what program is these days? If flash is so bad why is use of a PC instantly more pleasant by using Flash where with Apple there will always be a issue because flash can't be installed. Apple are stupid for leaving flash out.
You've got too say he actually made a very good point. If you look on android phones which support flash on them, yeah they may hace flasg but the browsing experience is so choppy and laggy compared too the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch which browsing wise is so smooth it's unbelievable. I'd rather have that smooth experience than the choppy one and besides most sites make sure they are iPhone compatible now anyway so there aren't a GREAT deal of sites which have flash and only flash on it
@JumpHD maybe you live in a cave or something. But my 4g dual core android phone has no lag or choppiness while i surf the web. and by the way unlike your crappy phone when i surf the web i get the entire web just as in my computer chop free :) good luck being apples bitch.
What a self absorbed egocentric prick. This is reminiscent of the late 80's when Jobs put Apple back into the dark ages and here goes Apple again failing for lack of hind sight and greed. I feel bad for all the Ipad and Iphone owners who shelled out hard earned money for something that's yesterdays news already.The Iphone is like an 8 track tape in comparison to whats out there now.
@JAG03064 I got iphone 4 as a present in november, (was using nokia n95 8gb) , and after a month of using it , it seemed as I was boosted 5 years into the future, it is so great. I saw newest android phone a week ago, and it is allmost as good , but not quite. Hence the Apple sucess.
@babaroga73 Yeah but that's already old school AT&T has a new one out that makes it look like a Nano. And who the hell wants to pay for apps you can get else where for free.
@lobextomy.. Because its like i said my iphone and my ipad run flawlessly and never seem to crash, apple has the stability i want, android doesnt have that.. And i hate the android interface, and that only leaves one more option, windows mobile. Dont get me started on whats wrong with that
Ye, i hate him, and I hate Apple, but somehow I find myself with an ipod touch...
Youre right, i just hate the way he is so smug and arrogant when hes talking about apple.
A serious point about flash though, the first touch was sold 4.5 years ago, so it was roughly designed 6 years ago. He says that apple did not include flash as it is a dieing technology. Yet 6 years later its still running very strongly.
that duche.... it take you 3 whole seconds to sell an ipad? oh yeah like someone else was doing better, in that day and time. oh i forgot hp unreleased tablet was selling a tablet every 1-1/2 seconds..... fail!!!!!
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Why Steve Jobs doesn't donate to Planned Parenthood? Jobs is adopted - his biological mom didn't want him but abortion was illegal at the time of Job's birth. Gates isn't as nice as you think
Even my Linux on 800MZ CPU can play flash, how can't ipad play.
One thing I have noticed is none of apple's iproducts are well designed in terms of air vent. My macbook can easily get very hot, much hotter than my crappy HP laptop.
Yeah flash isnt a sturdy platform but it would be nice to have it on an iphone update, some people want it and some dont, so give us the option to install flash if we want it
@GhettoDynamiczInc your choice is not to buy apple. Its either you buy apple and live without flash, or buy android and get your flash. Its really that simple. I dont know why people have to be upset that apple doesnt offer flash. Its not the only game in town.
@lobextomy well actually, although you cannot install Flash on iPad or iPhone, the choice is yours on a Apple Mac computer! Personally I have a iMac at home with Flash installed & a MacBook Air which I previously had Flash installed on but removed! The problem is Flash is a real battery killer on laptops, I found I was getting 30-40% less battery power whilst running Flash!
What baffles me is that Adobe doesn't seem to be interested in making even half a decent product out of flash. Having said this, it used to be good years ago but somehow with their more recent versions they managed to suck all the juice even out of high performance machines. Hate to say so but apparently Adobe doesn't give a rat's ass about their customers.
From an average user's point of view it may not seem like Flash is all that bad. But from a developer's stand point Flash is bloated and not only Flash, but just about every last one of Adobe's products are. HTML5 is the future like Steve said, not Flash. It's only a matter of time before the web starts forcing users to upgrade to browsers that support HTML5. Facebook has already begun to phase out support for Internet Explorer 6 this is just the beginning.
Apple was the first company to stop floppy disks, now they are getting rid of cd drives, say you want an app for a pc you don't go to a store and get it you go to google, find it and download it or the Mac app store
lol you know getting my compsci degree from UCI, i've always heard this particular sentence over and over again. "apple is evil" and i guess they are right. but there's something good about being evil. it is the other extreme of the extreme. there are pros and cons.
he still hadn't learnt from his mistake from the past.....close platform will not last long...do not be blinded by the temporary success of embedded&SoC. just look at pocket pc and pda 10 years ago? aint they similar to iphone, ipad today? and where's palm now? also 25 years ago he saw bios cmos wasn't important but modern hardware carry it anyway. his vision isn't always right
@mazdarx7head how ? im on youtube right now and im barely using any of my computers processing power. and whenever i run a lot of flash content i dont have a problem.
Yeah, Apple probably has monetary motives to not put flash in their products. But then again, he's right about one thing. Flash is a piece of garbage, and we need to stop hitting that dead horse and move on.
@lasse1122354 it's just that flash bring video the best way, the most secure way and youtube staff itself says flash rules, at the moment; try this in ie7 w/o flash
@69jizzem youtube came in 2005, apple's thinking about the future. flash is still going strong but he thinks html5 is the way to go. i don't think flash is dead... yet.
@MrShadowz1337 What are you on about? Of course I do, the reason Flash is still around, especially on Youtube is because it can surpasses HTML5 in many different ways. They've already stated that they're simply not using HTML5 as the standard video player as it has many flaws compared to Flash video *at the moment*. Maybe in one or two years time, but at the moment Flash video > HTML video. Please google it before you accuse me of not knowing what html5 is.
@MrShadowz1337 you obviously dont know what HTML5 is. All html 5 is in reality is extra tags. The real magic is done in javascript which does not have an authoring environment near what actionscript 3 has. Also HTML5 video is no where near being a standard ( the video tag ) Find me one website,using the html5 video tag that works on every browser and does NOT have a flash fallback. The reality is HTML5 is a buzzword and for the most part bullshit. However Javascript and the canvas shall grow.
@69jizzem YouTube switched to H.264 for video streaming (in Chrome and Safari, at least - Firefox doesn’t support it).... the lack of Flash in the iPad will be the thing that finally kills Flash itself. Thats why their pissed off!!!
@mbgm8as3 by god I hope you're right. I'm tired of a flash ad taking 20 percent of my computer. that's why I have flash block applications. I'm very sad that the web has become so dependent on code that is so heavy on computers.
Steve Jobs is a very convincing and persuasive speaker, to make this sound as if he is right without a doubt! I don't know much about creating these platforms, but I wonder just how much work it is to make flash work on the iOS so that consumers HAVE THE CHOICE to install it or not!?
I'm not saying Steve is full of it either. What if its true its easy to give consumers the choice, but having Flash support could mean its more work to release and bug fix iOS to work well with it? Very interesting
Again, another disappointing irritation from the Apple Camp. Obviously Flash was excluded from the IPAD because there is a ton of free flash content available & again Apple's reaction is all about profit & control. According to Mr. Jobs what they want to include in their products is technology that they predict has a future. Really? Or is it because people could play free Flash games on the web & not make you buy them at the App store? Steve Jobs & Greed will always keep Apple from being #1.
Also, is it me or does Mr. Jobs look like a hobo? He should shave & dress more appropriately for an interview . Steve, Loose the jeans & the sneakers it's not working... After all, your rich enough now aren't you? To tell you the truth, You look a little anorexic and it looks like you got your haircut at McDonalds... It's time for make over. By the way, redo the IPAD also while your at it... This time add Flash & I'll buy one. I don't even care about the camera...
If Adobe were a different sort of a company, they'd have opened up the Shockwave format to the W3C to implement as a standard browser feature, and sell the Flash SDK!!
bishopdante 1 week ago
Mobile Flash is a problem because Adobe's C++ code won't run on ARM based devices, they'd have to do a lot of rewriting and also long-term testing to get it working...
bishopdante 1 week ago
Flash's problem, and performance advantage is C++. Browsers are written in C++, so the thinking is that as more functions appear in the browser, you won't need a plugin. In actual fact, apple's iOS browsers don't support any plugins, it's not just Flash.
Adobe could perfectly feasibly write their own flash enabled iOS browser and release it as an app. They haven't done this. They're lazy, really!!
bishopdante 1 week ago
So really there just to lazy to put Adobe in
Nubatemykaikx2 2 weeks ago
Sry, Steve Jobs wasnt totally right about Flash. Flash didnt just "died", Steve Jobs "killed" Flash. Besides, Apple uses the image that Steve Jobs has as propaganda, advertising. Specially now that Steve Jobs died, apple is Abusing on the image that Steve Jobs left. Business is Business. Apple is good, Steve Jobs was a great, but that dosnt means Adobe Flash isnt a great Software. Its just that Apple was (and is) getting more money when they limits the hardware usability. This time, they won...
WitnessGraph 1 month ago
The fact is not weather Flash is good or bad. The fact is that the platform maker (Apple) should let developers (Adobe) buil what they want. Then the marked decides what is good or bad.
In this case we have the platform maker deciding for their own commercial reasons what is good or bad for other developers to build. This is horrible.
francescomm 1 month ago
you know what's funny? I'm seeing this video in HTML5....
OverPrice95 3 months ago 8
Adobe is not discontinuing Flash. They're discontinuing Flash only for smart phones and tablets. Flash will still continue to grow and flourish for desktops - even macs.
FYI - Director isn't even dead (or discontinued), even though I haven't developed with it in years.
Technology doesn't die, but it may eventually stop being used as Mr. Jobs indicated. All people will die though, regardless of the "great" technology that is developed to hopefully increase our lifespan...
solomonster22 3 months ago
@solomonster22 What was Flash before AIR will pick up. Flash Player in its concept is old. It has very poor persitence, system limitations, lack of support for input devices that mobile world is providing now. AIR solves this, it will grow.
Skullthehutt 3 months ago
Steve Jobs was just lying. Flash is better than Html5 whatever it is allowed to run on. HTML5 is even pathetic on iOS compared to the examples of Flash on jailbroken iOS.
Only Apple biased idiots can believe Apple is doing them a favor by not letting them view 93% of web pages correctly. So stupid! If Apple customers were really smart they would demand that their toys accept the only standardized, rich-content internet technology.
Flash trashes HTML5 & is here to stay, get over it!
MarkMifsud 3 months ago
@MarkMifsud you are so misinformed.
easypoints 3 months ago 4
@MarkMifsud HTML5 is an attempt to mimic Flex contextual components and implement them in HTML. So instead of HTML4 div class tag we have nav tag. Wow what an improvement since most of the pages we open are dynamically generated one way or another. Flash is a virtual machine which gives developers one promise it will behave same way in any environment. Try that with HTML, any HTML.
Skullthehutt 3 months ago
@sitelime Keep repeating your challenge... maybe someone will spin the world backwards and Flash can become relevant again. Flash, as predicted by Steve Jobs, was on the decline of their existence. Don't be sad, you'll adapt to HTML5... You sound spunky. The bottom line is, Apple deciding not to use Flash single-handedly killed them. Furthermore, the middle-aged-man comment made me laugh, and I hate you for it.
crouvalis 3 months ago
what a load of shit...
mrkc1331 3 months ago
I would challenge any html 5 programmer to reproduce what I can create in Flash, but that would be like challenging a bicycle with a Ferrari.
He was out to protect App store billions in profits from the free apps which Flash on iOS would have permitted. I know lot's of people who bought iPads completely unaware that there would be no Flash on them, and were severely disappointed. Spoke to yet another one this morning.
sitelime 3 months ago
@sitelime Where are you finding these morons that don't yet know that iPhone/iPad = no Flash? Anyone that 1) doesn't yet know that, and 2) doesn't do their research before spending $500-$1000 is, quite frankly, an idiot.
No one cares about Flash. It's funny, for a VERY brief period of time, it was, "Man,I can't see this site on my iPhone/iPad, that sucks", but now it's, "This dumb-ass site is in Flash, I'll never go to that site again". Your "Ferrari" is a Pinto, homey.
crouvalis 3 months ago
@crouvalis If anything is dead in this conversation - it's middle aged white people using the term 'homey"
sitelime 3 months ago
@sitelime The facts are that Adobe is discontinuing Flash. Good luck with programming on a platform that is no longer supported...
Haldered 3 months ago
@Haldered Where is that fact exactly? It discontinued mobile support, not Flash, as haters are hoping.
Smart move I say. HTML5 is great, and I code with it too. Just like I own a bicycle... and also a real car.
You guys have been saying "Flash is Dead" for two years. If you really believe it, then why keep saying it? Or is this some kind of manifestation thing? You keep saying it and it will happen one day...
Good luck with that.
siteditorchannel 3 months ago
I repeat my challenge: My Flash against anyone's HTML5.
I''ll even make it easier for you.
I'll code in AS2 with Flash 8, which was compatble with all browsers six YEARS ago. It will dance circles around HTML5.
siteditorchannel 3 months ago
@Haldered Flash Player on mobile devices. Read it carefully. The reason behind is that AIR will pick up form now on.
Skullthehutt 3 months ago
It took three whole seconds to sell one!?
Matchmyworld 3 months ago
I miss this man. So much.
Hematite1000 3 months ago
movie companies run flash on their websites to promote movies! so not all websites running html5 which made products don't equip with flash, inferior!
kfki 3 months ago
Steve Jobs's prophecy....end of Flash...
delajortiz 4 months ago 11
After a year, Flash has entered it's "graveyard of technology".
kotopro12 4 months ago
@kotopro12
LMAO
angelusp777 3 months ago
it's jobs's personal grudge against adobe who betrayed him a decade ago! adobe refused to make apps for mac osx because of minimal users of mac compared to pc users. this pissed steve way off! read the book on steve jobs, it explain there!
kfki 4 months ago
Flash Dead! Steve Jobs Smiling somewhere!
technob0lt 4 months ago 16
@technob0lt He's smiling in his grave
transformersloverjon 1 month ago
Man, i love steve in this...this is the open and jokey guy...he had to dampen his views on the keynotes.
OleVanDole 4 months ago
A quote from mass murderer Mr. Commie himself Stalin: "I will urinate in their face and they will thank me for the water."
antilibercrat 4 months ago
The real reason Apple doesn't alow Flash is because Adobe figured out a way to make Flash really fast and efficient by actually using the video accelerators of the video card itself. This began on Flash V 10.1. Apple, with their proprietary attitude, would not alow Adope to have access to it's video hardware. So who suffers because of Apple's obnoxious attitude: why all you Apple users of course.
antilibercrat 4 months ago
@antilibercrat the awkward moment when even adobe says HTML 5 is better 0_0
Flubadoodoo 4 months ago
It's a good thing Apple doesn't produce automobiles. Being the control freaks they are, your radio may only get predetermined stations. Your car would be limited to 65mph, there would be special Apple gas stations which would have the only nozzel that fits the gas tank, and unless you grip the steering wheel in a 1 oclock and 8 oclock position, your car would stop. And only Apple approved garages could change your oil at the double the cost.
antilibercrat 4 months ago
@timbalion Makes the wild claim that flash AS OF TODAY will not be available on ANY mobile devices. Gee, Apple Cultist Zoid, many of the ads for really smart phones, other than Iphone of course, play up the flash playing ability of their phones, especially ALL ANDROID phones. One of the ads says "And unlike the Apple products this smart phone plays all Flash videos." This Apple automotron also says he loves that Apple are control freaks and loves being controlled by them. Hmmmm, STRANGE!
antilibercrat 4 months ago
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@antilibercrat WHAT. THE. FUCK. ARE. YOU. EVEN. SAYING? do you speak english?
timbalion 4 months ago
It's DEAD! Flash on mobile devices is DEAD! No more developing it, Adobe know it sucks, Steve just knew years before they did.
crehan89 4 months ago
Apple products don't change to conform to the web, the web conforms to apple products!
gregslife7 4 months ago
In other words, Jobs was a control freak, telling people what they can and cannot do with Apple's extremely expensive products. I don't like someone telling me I can't use this or that software on my computer, thus, I have never and will never own an Apple product.
antilibercrat 4 months ago
@antilibercrat the cost of products does not factor into this debate. apple love being control freaks and i love apple for that! i have the best products i could ever own, from apple.
also, apple have never limited Flash on Macs. never.
and btw, as of today, there's no more Flash Player on mobile devices. so looks like you can't do what you "need" to do on your Playbook or Android device! shame.
timbalion 4 months ago
....... can I uninstall flash and html5 take over??
vtran31 4 months ago
HTML 5 sucks on my windows xp, but then again, everything sucks on my windows xp... Haha any suggestions as to how I could fix this? Because flash is soooo buggy and annoying and HTML 5 is only a little better...
jonbenonly2011 4 months ago
Uh HTML5 does some great stuff, but Flash is still the best experience and will be until what, maybe HTML6?
Xezukaful 4 months ago
@Xezukaful is that a joke? do you know what HTML5 looks like? and btw, Flash Player. gone.
timbalion 4 months ago
@timbalion The HTML6 part was a joke -- nice catch! I work with HTML5 for a living so I'd hope I know what it looks like! Although Flash Mobile is 'dead' in the developmental sense (I never liked Flash), it's going to take time until HTML5 takes its place. That's just fact. HTML5 has yet to prove itself with high quality/premium content. There are a number of reasons HTML5 has not yet been adopted by the big services. This is a great day for HTML5 though. It'll make my days that much easier.
Xezukaful 4 months ago
@Xezukaful dude, i don't know what you think i said. i'm in SUPPORT of HTML5, and the demise of Flash.
timbalion 4 months ago
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@Xezukaful dude, i don't know what you think i said. i'm in SUPPORT of HTML5, and the demise of Flash.
timbalion 4 months ago
html5 video quality sucks compared to flash. reverting back
cybersphere 4 months ago
@cybersphere html5 video quality is no different.
timbalion 4 months ago
@timbalion Yes it is, on HTML5 the video is finished render in an open video format, its a modern and snappy format...it just plays with everything. Flash has to unpack and sometimes render the video with use depending on devices, its troublesome and lacks versatility.
Face it gramps, the new stuff is powering through...enjoy your VHS.
OleVanDole 4 months ago
@OleVanDole huh? i agree HTML5 is the way forward, numb nuts!
timbalion 4 months ago
@OleVanDole the quality of the video and audio playback is no different though. the speed it gets to you may be, but quality is no better. but HTML5 is the future.
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AlMostabed00000 4 months ago
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he died before flash
hilletehnoob 5 months ago
Ganodorf518 you should just shut up...
People like you mess up the world!!
conradi1971 5 months ago
Without first buying the product and using it, how does one assess if it is good? For instance a movie could do really well at the box office, but that doesn't immediately mean that everyone that bought a ticket liked it. To me sales don't represent quality, but rather they represent marketability.
Elephatal 5 months ago
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flash isn't dead, you are.
ganondorf518 5 months ago
R.I.P steve jobs
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thezetser 5 months ago
lol I was about to watch this, and then flash crashed.
jonniekang 5 months ago 4
Steve Jobs is really an ass.
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I have to say, I have an iPad and not having Flash hasn't affected me 1 bit. Tome it makes sense for companies to move on from Flash. Adobe gets paid when a company uses flash on it machines, or develops content via flash. HTML 5 is open for anyone to use and they don't have to pay Adobe 1 cent. It's a good business strategy. Oh and by the way, flash is slow as balls. I don't and won't miss it. Adobe makes some great software (who can touch photoshop - noone). It's just that Flash has it's day.
epd0123 5 months ago
I have to say, I have an iPad and not having Flash hasn't affected me 1 bit. Tome it makes sense for companies to move on from Flash. Adobe gets paid when a company uses flash on it machines, or develops content via flash. HTML 5 is open for anyone to use and they don't have to pay Adobe 1 cent. It's a good business strategy. Oh and by the way, flash is slow as balls. I don't and won't miss it. Adobe makes some great software (who can touch photoshop - noone). It's just that Flash has it's day.
epd0123 5 months ago
at the end of the video he starts talking about how abode made the "stink" about not having flash on the iphone and they said get it running fast and bring it back and well check it out... um i doubt what they said to adobe was as simple as "we dont wanna use it" just by listening to the way he talks.
adn ppl dont pay apple to do shit. apple sells products to sheeple.
HypnotizeCampPosse 6 months ago
I love Steve's sarcastic laugh at the end. It totally said, "ha ha funny you old douchebag."
jigsawnq 6 months ago
I bet steve has flash in his idevice....
ipodphonetuts 6 months ago
the reason why flash on ipad should've stayed because youtube runs on flash... most websites have flash... i know its crap compared to htlm5 but until html5 is widely established on all popular websites in full & mobile version then flash should be a choice... right now i'm sick of mobile youtube saying 'cannot be played on mobile' & i miss the full version features of youtube... it just would be nice to run the desktop version of youtube on ipad because the screen is big enough.
MasterFProductions 6 months ago
@MasterFProductions I have an iPad and I can watch the videos on YouTube website (Desktop version). I haven't done anything or installed anything. I haven't done a jailbreak or anything. It just works for me.
meshal1986 6 months ago
The fact that apple products don't use flash is a personal choice by steve. He knows that flash will only be on the decline if apple doesn't use it. If apple products did use flash, it would be used plenty more over other formats currently compatable with apple products. Thank you Steve Jobs, you son of a bitch...
RampantObesity 6 months ago
I don't think Apple really wants to "crush" anybody. Thing is, they knew flash wouldn't work well on the iPad (for now). I would rather my consumer complain about a feature being absent then a feature sucking.
Let's face it, once tablets have good enough hardware, there will be no reason to complain. But I don't think tablets will ever be the most viable way to do serious work.
rifall 6 months ago
4:22 and if we dont they wont: when i bought the ipad2 i was under the damn impression i could use every app/ player needed to view movies! To all the people clapping at that moment i say come up with a working flas player instead then instead ofnclapping assholes!
Vide0mak3r 6 months ago
"Hypercard was huge in its day..." Must be so huge to be compared with Flash... Let me google it to know what the hell it was... :D
rajkataria17 7 months ago
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maw88ify 7 months ago
I've said "bye bye" Adobe Flash and and "hello" to Adobe Edge in terms of web development. I used Flash since Macromedia days, but since there's a huge demography in iOS devices and other non-flash supporting products, I want to make my sites available for every platform as possible.
Wallaby is great, but Edge looks way more promising to me at least :P
Peace.
asiandawn69 7 months ago
@asiandawn69 Look up this video on youtube >> "See What Flash Can do with the Molehill 3D API "
maw88ify 7 months ago
Funny that i'm watching this video on my galaxy s 2 with the desktop youtube version. And i actually have no trouble at all. Fluid playback, NO LAG and easy webbrowsing. Adobe has potential, on dual core smartphones there is absolutley no problem.
kizanko 7 months ago
this guy tries to hypnotize us.. :| it almost worked.. until my phone ringed (with android on it lol)
Ekmek90 7 months ago
i believe this calls for a boycott...
mrsuperdudly1 8 months ago
Luckily they don't allow Adobe
ioannis21shum 8 months ago
flash is dying not dead
ryananderson280195 8 months ago
Flash is such an unruly program with so many bugs in it that we're going to run all our devices on HTML5 which no one uses for entertainment and is brand new to the internet. Also when you start experiencing problems with HTML5 we'll be sure to blame Adobe.
Shmooore 8 months ago
Given how easy it is for android to use flash, I'm sure all the iphone based stuff could run it too. Could there be something apple isn't telling us about Flash?
To be honest, apple should stop being stubborn about not supporting flash and just put it in, could it really hurt that much. It seems like Steve is hiding something. Every bad point about the ipad Steve has very suspiciously defended.
TVperson1 9 months ago
Well as far as im concerned if people want their websites to be view on iPads then they need to use HTML5, if not stick to flash, i dont see why this is a huge problem, apple said no and they are still selling like crazy, their is no point to fight over this, its just stupid, if you want flash go stick to another tablet!
sinclairalex80 9 months ago
2:58 really, the HTML5 video skips like hell
Primus2X 9 months ago
Steve Jobs is a maniacal horses ass. He knows that his Mac Fanboys will continue to buy anything the lord god jobs decrees to be the gospel. I am using a Mac right now. I have an old G4 eMac that I purchased new in '05. I do not have an iPhone or an iPad. I will not do so until they quit doing stupid stuff like this. Everybody knows that Steve Jobs is dying. Maybe after his death, apple can quit doing stupid things. I also look forward to a mac laptop with a right-click button. Another fiasco!
LarryC213 10 months ago
they are betting on stuff that will go up in the market but they do not take into consideration the "user" facts...the "user" needs...ipad was a best seller due to the design,i wonder what would apple do without it's lead designers...
mrqroro 10 months ago
Steve Jobs seems to be a man who thinks he would have the power to change the whole computer business if he wants to. But in the next 5 years he won't be able to kick out Flash, because the people don't have any problems with it! It works quickly, in HD quality , so what's his problem with Flash?
allogicid 10 months ago
i pud shoul be utility tool. like a car. steve, it is like you build a car that can't go on every street. just because u consider some street not god is non a god reason for to make a car limitaded. bacause is this the right word for i pad: limitated!
marcoilsanto 11 months ago
You are not watching this video on youtube because the flash, as to my limited knowledge flash is only wrapper for video streaming. And come to think of it, I have never been on a flash site that worked 100% properly, it was allways all style, some substance...etc (I am not talking of sites that have so called "flash video")
babaroga73 11 months ago
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babaroga73 11 months ago
People mostly buy Apple computers because of the new age ideas, appearance of quality and ingenuity of their products. Sadly Apple does stupid thing's like depriving customers (the people keeping them in business) of using certain applications, and having bullshit restrictions on running certain things. As for battery levels, I honesty believe that people don't particularly care if flash uses more power, this is protecting people from themselves. APPLE NEEDS TO ALLOW FLASH simple as that.
JeroXR6T 11 months ago
If flash is so bad why do so many websites use it? If flash is not suitable for Apple products what is wrong with Apple? Is flash so bad that people can't be given the liberty of CHOICE what on earth is up with Apple? Flash not a stable program? what program is these days? If flash is so bad why is use of a PC instantly more pleasant by using Flash where with Apple there will always be a issue because flash can't be installed. Apple are stupid for leaving flash out.
JeroXR6T 11 months ago
I don't miss Flash at all really.
charger19691 11 months ago
You've got too say he actually made a very good point. If you look on android phones which support flash on them, yeah they may hace flasg but the browsing experience is so choppy and laggy compared too the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch which browsing wise is so smooth it's unbelievable. I'd rather have that smooth experience than the choppy one and besides most sites make sure they are iPhone compatible now anyway so there aren't a GREAT deal of sites which have flash and only flash on it
JumpHD 11 months ago
@JumpHD maybe you live in a cave or something. But my 4g dual core android phone has no lag or choppiness while i surf the web. and by the way unlike your crappy phone when i surf the web i get the entire web just as in my computer chop free :) good luck being apples bitch.
o0zeroeffect0o 6 months ago
if you work for apple and working on an idea, and said "hey how about we put in flash" your immediately fired
Db3st0794 1 year ago
What a self absorbed egocentric prick. This is reminiscent of the late 80's when Jobs put Apple back into the dark ages and here goes Apple again failing for lack of hind sight and greed. I feel bad for all the Ipad and Iphone owners who shelled out hard earned money for something that's yesterdays news already.The Iphone is like an 8 track tape in comparison to whats out there now.
JAG03064 1 year ago
@JAG03064 I got iphone 4 as a present in november, (was using nokia n95 8gb) , and after a month of using it , it seemed as I was boosted 5 years into the future, it is so great. I saw newest android phone a week ago, and it is allmost as good , but not quite. Hence the Apple sucess.
babaroga73 11 months ago
@babaroga73 Yeah but that's already old school AT&T has a new one out that makes it look like a Nano. And who the hell wants to pay for apps you can get else where for free.
JAG03064 11 months ago
@lobextomy.. Because its like i said my iphone and my ipad run flawlessly and never seem to crash, apple has the stability i want, android doesnt have that.. And i hate the android interface, and that only leaves one more option, windows mobile. Dont get me started on whats wrong with that
GhettoDynamiczInc 1 year ago
Steve jobs is such a twat.
al210993 1 year ago
@al210993 He might be a twat but you have to give him his dues. He's a fucking genius at getting people to buy Apple stuff.
Grymligast 1 year ago
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Ye, i hate him, and I hate Apple, but somehow I find myself with an ipod touch...
Youre right, i just hate the way he is so smug and arrogant when hes talking about apple.
A serious point about flash though, the first touch was sold 4.5 years ago, so it was roughly designed 6 years ago. He says that apple did not include flash as it is a dieing technology. Yet 6 years later its still running very strongly.
al210993 1 year ago
Hey Jobs
Guess what dying technology will still manage to outlive you.
HEH.
JorkellDIY 1 year ago
always fucking dressed like that D:
rodryi2808 1 year ago
that duche.... it take you 3 whole seconds to sell an ipad? oh yeah like someone else was doing better, in that day and time. oh i forgot hp unreleased tablet was selling a tablet every 1-1/2 seconds..... fail!!!!!
Techlaker101 1 year ago
@Techlaker101 it was a joke stupid I guess you cant tell when someomes being sarcastic
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ProLifeHelp 1 year ago
Even my Linux on 800MZ CPU can play flash, how can't ipad play.
One thing I have noticed is none of apple's iproducts are well designed in terms of air vent. My macbook can easily get very hot, much hotter than my crappy HP laptop.
Apple is a cult, definitely.
zhoulingyu 1 year ago
@69jizzem YouTube is looking to get rid of Flash in the near future:
youtube . com/html5
TheLibraBaby 1 year ago
Yeah flash isnt a sturdy platform but it would be nice to have it on an iphone update, some people want it and some dont, so give us the option to install flash if we want it
GhettoDynamiczInc 1 year ago
@GhettoDynamiczInc your choice is not to buy apple. Its either you buy apple and live without flash, or buy android and get your flash. Its really that simple. I dont know why people have to be upset that apple doesnt offer flash. Its not the only game in town.
lobextomy 1 year ago 3
@lobextomy well actually, although you cannot install Flash on iPad or iPhone, the choice is yours on a Apple Mac computer! Personally I have a iMac at home with Flash installed & a MacBook Air which I previously had Flash installed on but removed! The problem is Flash is a real battery killer on laptops, I found I was getting 30-40% less battery power whilst running Flash!
NeilKeo77 11 months ago
Nice one Steve! I certainly don't want Adobe's shitty Flash on my iPad.
5uds1 1 year ago
What baffles me is that Adobe doesn't seem to be interested in making even half a decent product out of flash. Having said this, it used to be good years ago but somehow with their more recent versions they managed to suck all the juice even out of high performance machines. Hate to say so but apparently Adobe doesn't give a rat's ass about their customers.
DG320 1 year ago
From an average user's point of view it may not seem like Flash is all that bad. But from a developer's stand point Flash is bloated and not only Flash, but just about every last one of Adobe's products are. HTML5 is the future like Steve said, not Flash. It's only a matter of time before the web starts forcing users to upgrade to browsers that support HTML5. Facebook has already begun to phase out support for Internet Explorer 6 this is just the beginning.
NikeBoy617 1 year ago
Apple was the first company to stop floppy disks, now they are getting rid of cd drives, say you want an app for a pc you don't go to a store and get it you go to google, find it and download it or the Mac app store
topazexploder 1 year ago
Hey Steve!, you're an idiot!
nhcharmedone 1 year ago
lol you know getting my compsci degree from UCI, i've always heard this particular sentence over and over again. "apple is evil" and i guess they are right. but there's something good about being evil. it is the other extreme of the extreme. there are pros and cons.
Silvoleon 1 year ago
he still hadn't learnt from his mistake from the past.....close platform will not last long...do not be blinded by the temporary success of embedded&SoC. just look at pocket pc and pda 10 years ago? aint they similar to iphone, ipad today? and where's palm now? also 25 years ago he saw bios cmos wasn't important but modern hardware carry it anyway. his vision isn't always right
hanrinch 1 year ago
Jobs is a pimp. And I mean that in the most effusive way possible.
2226416 1 year ago
apple is a cult
jguay64 1 year ago
Hijack it!
jguay64 1 year ago
it would be nice if adobe developers could develope for iphone
theme542 1 year ago
@theme542 at the moment, they can
VRFist 1 year ago
@Arkains10 It slows down loading speeds of some sites if ur runn ing a lot of stuff at once.
mazdarx7head 1 year ago
Flash does tend to slow things down massively
mazdarx7head 1 year ago
@mazdarx7head how ? im on youtube right now and im barely using any of my computers processing power. and whenever i run a lot of flash content i dont have a problem.
Arkains10 1 year ago
@mazdarx7head they made it work good now type in blackberry playbook vs ipad web fidelity
iutuber100 1 year ago
HTML5 isn't even really used now. How would that signify the "Spring" of its existence?
Dracoman090 1 year ago
Flash won't be in the next version of OSX
JFoun321 1 year ago
Yeah, Apple probably has monetary motives to not put flash in their products. But then again, he's right about one thing. Flash is a piece of garbage, and we need to stop hitting that dead horse and move on.
perfectgyroscope 1 year ago
lol flash is "dead" huh lol then why am i watching this vid on youtube????? lol
69jizzem 1 year ago 17
@69jizzem you dont need flash to watch on youtube
lasse1122354 1 year ago
@lasse1122354 it's just that flash bring video the best way, the most secure way and youtube staff itself says flash rules, at the moment; try this in ie7 w/o flash
VRFist 1 year ago
Is flash dead on your planet?
dnd01876 1 year ago
@69jizzem youtube came in 2005, apple's thinking about the future. flash is still going strong but he thinks html5 is the way to go. i don't think flash is dead... yet.
Silvoleon 1 year ago
@69jizzem
YouTube does their videos in webm.....
wvu212 1 year ago
@69jizzem both iPhone & iPad have their own YouTube application!
NeilKeo77 11 months ago
@69jizzem How am I watching this vid on YouTube without flash installed. HTML5 FTW.
crehan89 9 months ago 51
@crehan89 Flash video > HTML video, sorry to break it to you.
Jamaalinnit 8 months ago
@Jamaalinnit u obviously dunno what HTML5 is.
MrShadowz1337 8 months ago
@MrShadowz1337 What are you on about? Of course I do, the reason Flash is still around, especially on Youtube is because it can surpasses HTML5 in many different ways. They've already stated that they're simply not using HTML5 as the standard video player as it has many flaws compared to Flash video *at the moment*. Maybe in one or two years time, but at the moment Flash video > HTML video. Please google it before you accuse me of not knowing what html5 is.
Jamaalinnit 8 months ago
@MrShadowz1337 you obviously dont know what HTML5 is. All html 5 is in reality is extra tags. The real magic is done in javascript which does not have an authoring environment near what actionscript 3 has. Also HTML5 video is no where near being a standard ( the video tag ) Find me one website,using the html5 video tag that works on every browser and does NOT have a flash fallback. The reality is HTML5 is a buzzword and for the most part bullshit. However Javascript and the canvas shall grow.
fresh81steez 5 months ago
@crehan89 Finally someone realises html 5 is better than flash.
iCocobowman3 6 months ago
@69jizzem You tube is starting to ad HTML 5 support flash will be dead within 5 years.
Deal with it.
eitrig 8 months ago
@69jizzem HTML5 :)
MrShadowz1337 8 months ago
@69jizzem YouTube switched to H.264 for video streaming (in Chrome and Safari, at least - Firefox doesn’t support it).... the lack of Flash in the iPad will be the thing that finally kills Flash itself. Thats why their pissed off!!!
mbgm8as3 7 months ago
@mbgm8as3 by god I hope you're right. I'm tired of a flash ad taking 20 percent of my computer. that's why I have flash block applications. I'm very sad that the web has become so dependent on code that is so heavy on computers.
rifall 6 months ago
@69jizzem OH YEAH GOOD POINT!! THAT'S WHY WE HAVE YOUTUBE ON IPADS THAT DON'T HAVE FLASH! Retard.
iCocobowman3 6 months ago
Steve Jobs is a very convincing and persuasive speaker, to make this sound as if he is right without a doubt! I don't know much about creating these platforms, but I wonder just how much work it is to make flash work on the iOS so that consumers HAVE THE CHOICE to install it or not!?
I'm not saying Steve is full of it either. What if its true its easy to give consumers the choice, but having Flash support could mean its more work to release and bug fix iOS to work well with it? Very interesting
gxcad 1 year ago
Steve Jobs was elected to best CEO 2010.
angelusp777 1 year ago
This is why I'm not switching to mac. Because I can't play hannah and the pirate caves.
JellieBeanGurus 1 year ago
What's all the fuss about? Just hack the damn thing and install whatever you want. It's just a computer with a touch screen.
northernstudio 1 year ago
Apple is even worse than Activision in Capitalism.
Radac2008 1 year ago
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I bet flash will be on Nintendo's platform before Apple
rybob7 1 year ago
Ibet flash will be on Nintendo's platform before Apple
rybob7 1 year ago 3
i bet flash will be on Nintendo's platform before Apple
rybob7 1 year ago
if we had flash you could tell your kids you can play club penguin on the iphone or ipod touch or ipad
rybob7 1 year ago
cancer freak
savemyplaylist 1 year ago
Just Jailbreak and get Frash (seriously it works (but you need to add a source and ive forgotten it :L))
29chrispy 1 year ago
Again, another disappointing irritation from the Apple Camp. Obviously Flash was excluded from the IPAD because there is a ton of free flash content available & again Apple's reaction is all about profit & control. According to Mr. Jobs what they want to include in their products is technology that they predict has a future. Really? Or is it because people could play free Flash games on the web & not make you buy them at the App store? Steve Jobs & Greed will always keep Apple from being #1.
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Also, is it me or does Mr. Jobs look like a hobo? He should shave & dress more appropriately for an interview . Steve, Loose the jeans & the sneakers it's not working... After all, your rich enough now aren't you? To tell you the truth, You look a little anorexic and it looks like you got your haircut at McDonalds... It's time for make over. By the way, redo the IPAD also while your at it... This time add Flash & I'll buy one. I don't even care about the camera...
dnd01876 1 year ago
@dnd01876 Cause apple and steve jobs needs money... right i forgot.
ItsjustagameNUB 1 year ago
@dnd01876 What are you talking about? Most of the games on the AppStore are free.
diablospyder 1 year ago