I pack my glider the same way (but I don't allow the leading edge to be folded up in the middle), so the packing result is, if you pay attention, identical to the "right" way of doing it.
When you do it that way, this packing method is fast. I'm most of the time the first done with packing, even compared to the new quick-stuff-bags. I can highly recommend this method.
It begins very nice and you pack very tenderly...but what in all the world are you doing after 3 minutes?? Folding the wing violently from the leading edge so the air cannot get out..so tight folding destroys the mylars and the high air pressure stretches the material!
I agree with your packing method until 3 minutes. All that comes after should not been shown here.
I think nobody can watch this vid without thinking exactly the same thing. It started out quite impressive, but then you have to think he packed a glider for the first time ;)
OK, with a paraglider you make termall flying, XC, soaring, a litle bit of acro maybe, but definitely not origami. Please buy a less expensive piece of fabric to excell in this folding hobby or whatever you may call it. By the way, don't you sell the glider? Pleeeease?
Interesting. Not sure the "Madsen pack" Will work well on my Nova Ra. It has very few lines on an internally cross braced wing but I will have a go sometime.
Search for the "Madsen Pack" on youtube. This method works when its windy and its fast and easy. All the myler are together and you don't have to disconnect your harness.
By folding wing this way you distribute all myler almost into 75% of length of wing cord. Then when you fold the wing in last stage you damage them as they are in line of fold. I would rather to get all mylar in leading edge of wing over each other & keep them all at one segment away from line of folding. Remember undamaged & clean mylar result to less chances of unwanted collapse & faster recovery if it happens, so take care of your wing on the ground she will take care of you up there in Sky.
Not really Nocholas, the Handi-Clamps will still be way much better then folding the wing that way. Also, if the wind is strong you can accordion it straigh from the cauliflower (or mushroom as some call).
concordo com Vizoo em alguns termos! O tempo que ele leva dobrando este parapente é incrivelmente longo. Eu tambem uso os grampos para dobrar sozinha, sobretudo se o vento esta forte. Mas eu dobro também do bordo de ataque pro bordo de fuga, o ar sai sem problemas. Alguns amigos que guardam o parapente ja engatado na selete também dobram do ataque pra fuga. Nao da pra sair enrolando a selete com o parapente...
If this prolongs the life of your wing and resale value because of condition of your mylar partitions- don't knock it. 6 folds left 7 folds right? It might have been easier to fold wing in the final stage from trailing edge to leading edge to get rid of air in cells- other than that I think its a good!
note it is very important to have the nose pointing away from the carrier person as if it is located to the bottom and forward the nose will be subject to alot of deformation during movement as there is no support in the pack on the bottom corner by the packs waste band
having the nose of the glider facing down in the back pack and towards the rear means that it is protected by the seat board of your harness during transportation . and note your carry pack is most square with least tension at the bottom. which leads to what i believe to be the optimum position in the entire pack for the location of the paragliders nose.
then with the glider in the inner bag should be inserted into the carry pack with the nose to the bottom facing away from the carrier .next place your harness face down onto the glider and close the carry pack.logic behind this method is . most paraglider packs are made to fit glider folded only three times with harness.
ideally only three folds should be done with the nose of the canopy inserted into the bottom of the glider inner bag this avoids the draw string on the bag interfering with the nose. ideally leave draw string loose take note the more weight you put on the glider during folding the more damage
the leading edge has stiffeners in it to maintain shape and stability in the canopy i note he believes he is protecting there shape in the initial folding but it is clear to be seen that it is desirable to have all openings at one end so when you fold it into the bag it does not interfer with the nose
Very good and fast way to accordian your wing solo, exept the last step of folding into a bundle. We roll the harness onto the wing "cigar" and it does not fold the accordianed ribs...
I pack my glider the same way (but I don't allow the leading edge to be folded up in the middle), so the packing result is, if you pay attention, identical to the "right" way of doing it.
When you do it that way, this packing method is fast. I'm most of the time the first done with packing, even compared to the new quick-stuff-bags. I can highly recommend this method.
NilsKokemohr 10 months ago
It begins very nice and you pack very tenderly...but what in all the world are you doing after 3 minutes?? Folding the wing violently from the leading edge so the air cannot get out..so tight folding destroys the mylars and the high air pressure stretches the material!
I agree with your packing method until 3 minutes. All that comes after should not been shown here.
Hruodger88 1 year ago
@Hruodger88
I think nobody can watch this vid without thinking exactly the same thing. It started out quite impressive, but then you have to think he packed a glider for the first time ;)
Baerchenization 6 months ago
Why bother? The damn thing will die of tree or bush or fence long before it wears out from folding! (Bitter experience)
weirwolfarroo 1 year ago
its put up
galegregory97comcast 1 year ago
OK, with a paraglider you make termall flying, XC, soaring, a litle bit of acro maybe, but definitely not origami. Please buy a less expensive piece of fabric to excell in this folding hobby or whatever you may call it. By the way, don't you sell the glider? Pleeeease?
catalinsparky 1 year ago
One day I hope to see a draw string through the leading edge.
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Seems with some manufacturers, mylars are already replaced. By carbon fibre stays
m1aws 1 year ago
@m1aws Check out mylar-fix from U-turn, or you can also try "madsen pack".
Search for it, user "erlendmc".
eKalhagen 1 year ago
@eKalhagen
Thank you sir,
Interesting. Not sure the "Madsen pack" Will work well on my Nova Ra. It has very few lines on an internally cross braced wing but I will have a go sometime.
m1aws 1 year ago
total shit wast of time
Calibra280 1 year ago
Mann ist das ne Nuss! Den Schirm von der anderen Seite her aufrollen, damit die Luft entweichen kann, mann!
Flashy1995 1 year ago
Search for the "Madsen Pack" on youtube. This method works when its windy and its fast and easy. All the myler are together and you don't have to disconnect your harness.
erlendmc 1 year ago 2
Why?
TheNovaAxon 2 years ago
So wrong! If you want to pop a seam, then go right ahead and do this! No way to treat your pride and joy. Start again! Sayonara!
00Muttley 2 years ago
wrong way for sure
newstarchild 2 years ago
You forgot to take the air off before bending it...lol, nice stuff but Im not quite sure whtether this is good for the glider...
MICHAELJL1 2 years ago
i´ve tried it this way.. it´s a very good idea! it´s realy effectiv!
Joghurt92 2 years ago
Well, we know where the origami come from, don't we?
lol
dobrydmais 3 years ago
Why would you fold from the leading edge first?
alexsakon 3 years ago
The fold at 3:40 is dumb your glider is all jacked now
lowpullproductions 3 years ago
farflyer is right. This is not a good way of folding your glider. You have probably destroyed most of the mylars by now
bortek666 3 years ago 4
Rube Goldberg and Heath Robinson couldn't have done better. Get a stuff sack.
gizzo70 3 years ago
By folding wing this way you distribute all myler almost into 75% of length of wing cord. Then when you fold the wing in last stage you damage them as they are in line of fold. I would rather to get all mylar in leading edge of wing over each other & keep them all at one segment away from line of folding. Remember undamaged & clean mylar result to less chances of unwanted collapse & faster recovery if it happens, so take care of your wing on the ground she will take care of you up there in Sky.
farflyer 3 years ago 19
Eu compraria um parapente desse cidadão. rsrsrs
joaoguy 3 years ago
...tá, e é assim que se faz! Sério???? kkkk, nem teve graça!
ncaflyer 3 years ago
大変参考になりました。
ありがとうございます。
以前、加賀山さんから見せていただいた記憶が戻りました(笑)。
yokotasaburo 3 years ago
Isnt it too difficult? :-l
ottogiftmacher 3 years ago
Parece um modo bem idiota de dobrar...
1- Estraga o Mylar,
2- Não é mais rápido,
3- Do bordo de ataque para o bordo de fuga??
Eu uso um grampo de marceneiro sempre que tenho de dobrar a vela sozinho.
O melhor é do tipo manual sem mola, como o "Handi-Clamps" no site da IRWIN
VizooYT 4 years ago
Looks pretty stupid to me...
1- Folds the Mylar,
2- It is not much faster then a regular accordion folding,
3- From the leading edge to the trailing edge??
I always carry a small clamp, it makes very easy when you are folding alone.
Look for the "Handi-Clamps" on IRWIN website
VizooYT 4 years ago
But maby effective with strong wind if you are alone?
NocholasP 3 years ago 2
Not really Nocholas, the Handi-Clamps will still be way much better then folding the wing that way. Also, if the wind is strong you can accordion it straigh from the cauliflower (or mushroom as some call).
VizooYT 3 years ago
concordo com Vizoo em alguns termos! O tempo que ele leva dobrando este parapente é incrivelmente longo. Eu tambem uso os grampos para dobrar sozinha, sobretudo se o vento esta forte. Mas eu dobro também do bordo de ataque pro bordo de fuga, o ar sai sem problemas. Alguns amigos que guardam o parapente ja engatado na selete também dobram do ataque pra fuga. Nao da pra sair enrolando a selete com o parapente...
lucianacuisinier 3 years ago
Hmmm im impressed
DIZZYskin 4 years ago
sure......origami!
manolo6061 4 years ago
See the video called 'Paraglider Packing.'
AMAZINGPROSTATE 4 years ago
Muito bom!
netosnaproll 4 years ago
Heel slechte manier om de lucht uit uw scherm te halen.
De lucht moet eruit geduwd worden naar de openingen toe en niet andersom. Levensduur scherm verminderd hierdoor.
RontjeMartje 4 years ago
Very nice, but too slow I think...
librexpresion 4 years ago
i wish you could pack my glider. pretty good video illustration.
jesse2006 4 years ago
If this prolongs the life of your wing and resale value because of condition of your mylar partitions- don't knock it. 6 folds left 7 folds right? It might have been easier to fold wing in the final stage from trailing edge to leading edge to get rid of air in cells- other than that I think its a good!
captainsuperfly 4 years ago
great way to pack you wing along with slugs and bugs. No chance of checking to see whats stuck to it. Pointless
marthewlett 4 years ago
Tremendous wear and tear on the upper surface being dragged along the ground.
Rosevilleair 4 years ago
note it is very important to have the nose pointing away from the carrier person as if it is located to the bottom and forward the nose will be subject to alot of deformation during movement as there is no support in the pack on the bottom corner by the packs waste band
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bevanwasher 4 years ago
having the nose of the glider facing down in the back pack and towards the rear means that it is protected by the seat board of your harness during transportation . and note your carry pack is most square with least tension at the bottom. which leads to what i believe to be the optimum position in the entire pack for the location of the paragliders nose.
bevanwasher 4 years ago
then with the glider in the inner bag should be inserted into the carry pack with the nose to the bottom facing away from the carrier .next place your harness face down onto the glider and close the carry pack.logic behind this method is . most paraglider packs are made to fit glider folded only three times with harness.
bevanwasher 4 years ago
ideally only three folds should be done with the nose of the canopy inserted into the bottom of the glider inner bag this avoids the draw string on the bag interfering with the nose. ideally leave draw string loose take note the more weight you put on the glider during folding the more damage
bevanwasher 4 years ago
i have never seen a wing so murdered before
the leading edge has stiffeners in it to maintain shape and stability in the canopy i note he believes he is protecting there shape in the initial folding but it is clear to be seen that it is desirable to have all openings at one end so when you fold it into the bag it does not interfer with the nose
bevanwasher 4 years ago
It seems he's a skydiver...
evilkidm93b 4 years ago
that way take so so so long i will never try rsrsrsrsrsr
it suck
harlengv 4 years ago
Very good and fast way to accordian your wing solo, exept the last step of folding into a bundle. We roll the harness onto the wing "cigar" and it does not fold the accordianed ribs...
mikefougere 4 years ago
He doesnt kill the cells. You can tell cause there is no wind.
goldenaxe1973 4 years ago
feels like he kills the cells with that way off packing.
dirre04 4 years ago
Very Cool !! I will try...
mahasiah 4 years ago