@famemonster1993 When have I said anything to the contrary? My point is simple: the Parthians were of Scythian descent who claimed Persian ancestry through Artaxerxes II.
@famemonster1993 The Parthians (at least the aristocracy and rulers) descended from the Parni tribe, closely related to the Scythians and originating in the same region in which the Scythians dwelled.
Iran a nation who invented the cataphract..yes meaning Iranians being the first knights of the world..who fought wars strategically and honorable.. you nasty sandniggers killed woman and children were waiting all this time in the sand till finally iranian empire was at its weaks..iranians witheld 4 corners of the world..3 colonies over 2700 years..
@iragiarabian you little slut.. which planet are you from..your ancestors copied more from iran. this is a fundemental fact.. second... culturally we attributed most to the world.. you dare to compare your nasty people to the glory of the Iranians.
the true iranian heritage is that of the shahnameh Epic of kings..kings of kings. iranian aryans are the first who domesticated the horse nisean chargers becoming warrior tribes competing in that region internally and externally for 5000 of years..
fucking video like you , hatra is arabic not fucking persian , you show all these gays and feel proud of them ,can you give me name of one scientst or invention in these periods , all what you can do is just steal civilization of others , all what you have is just copying of semitic civilization , you forgrt where did you come from you fucking hairy asians indians
@IraqiArabian :-D we can't name scientists of that era because you burnt down our libraries and killed our scientists. And now look whose talking! we copied from you? oh...! pour arabs have nothing but lies. funny enough, the most celebrated and renowned muslim scientists were also Persians.
similar? we have savaran origin too:D parthians had hungarian runes :D they were our ancestors! and why have more iranic words in hungarian language too?
fuck the persian hating kurds, always hating on persians and iran and come up with dumb shit claiming kurds were in iran before persians and shit, fuckin morons, kurds are the same as arabs in my opinions, they should be lucky they ever even mentioned in the same sentence as iran, bunch of culture, history stealing low lives good for nothing but being gased to death
Well according to all historical documents written in those days, Parthians are also mentioned as Schytians or Huns, later as Magyars. They were part of the Turanian empire, so all the Turanian nations will find cultural similarities with them, but please, with all due respect towards Iraq, let's not forget that Iraqis descend from the Assyrians, so we can only talk of an inimical relation between the 2 empires in those days.
The Parthian kings, although eventually ruling over Persia and Mesopotamia, came from a specific nomadic tribe called the Parni, which at the time was part of the Dahae Confederacy. This confederacy had been known since Achaemenid times. In terms of culture and ethnicity, the Parni were an Iranian people who spoke an eastern Iranian dialect.
@EricMetalGuitarist I'd be very interested to read more about this subject if you can give a reference. To my knowledge, Parthians descended from the Kush and Kungar dynasties, and that would be more logical, since it's hard to believe that a nomadic tribe got so strong culturally and in regards of their warfare, that they've became the most feared enemies of the Roman empire. Their culture was also identical to old Mesopotamian cultures,
@GuardeAvantgarde of which culture we can only find traces within the Assyrian, the Persian and the Egyptian cultures. I'd agree with the fact that after a while they've lived in a confederation, since those days the sole enemy of the eastern cultures was the Roman empire. As far as the Dahae confederacy is concerned, I know of it as Hun confederacy, of which the Dahae nation was also part of. Let me know if you have politically not revised and authentic references. Thanx...
Hello. I'm User:PericlesofAthens at Wikipedia; I wrote the entire article on the Parthian Empire. If you would like to see specific academic sources on the origins of the Parthian kings, I would refer you to Bivar (1983), Katouzian (2009), Brosius (2006), and Curtis (2007). Bivar perhaps gives the most detailed explanation about the nomadic Parni in the Cambridge History of Iran (pub. Cambridge University Press).
...also, it should be stressed that the Parni abandoned their Iranian dialect and adopted the regional Parthian language (a western Iranian dialect) as their official court language. They also abandoned much of their nomadic traditions, adopting Seleucid-Greek and Achaemenid-Persian notions of kingship and rule. The Parthian Empire was in fact culturally heterogeneous, with many different languages spoken and different religions observed, such as Judaism and Zoroastrianism.
The Iranian family of tribes is actually the closest relative of the original Mediterranean tribes - these are obviously the Hellenics (Greek tribes). Still quite an important % of modern Iranians (not my friend Ahmadinejad though...) could pass unidentified in Greece and that is interesting given that really few Greeks were ever installed in Iran and virtually no Persians were ever installed in Greece (perhaps western Minor Asia? Still very few...).
I do not know, I am Greek so not so knowledgeable on these issues. But I think ancient Kurds were the Kardouhoi mentioned by ancient Greeks. They were supposed to be one of the different Iranian tribes.
Actually I see Iranian people a large group of tribes including brother tribes Medes, Persians, Parthians and then cousin tribes like Kurds, then 2nd cousin tribes like Armenians (not the same nation of course) and from there on northern Caucasians like Scythians, Alans, Sarmatians.
After the fall of sassanids persian fled to china and were accepted by the emperor to restart and build up the iranian culture over their, pirozz the prince and son of the last king of persia before arabs came
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persianiranforever idiot, You think you are old Persians with your Arabic language? with your lost dead culture? Old Persians were KURDS wandered from Kurdistan to South Iran, and PArthian are and WERE KURDS and will BE KURDS. You stupid ignorant retard.
Parthians are Zaza from etnic. I;m a kurd but we must not stole a history.. Not Persians, Not Kurds (medians) But it's from the Zaza people. The Zaza's are living now in Turkey Kurdistan. The name the have it from the sassanid empire.. sasa= zaza. Medians = are Manji (magi) Kur= Son, Manj = Median., Kurmanji = Son of the medians KUR=KURDISTAN .. The zaza and the kurmanji are from Kurdistan region.. they have called both kurds.but they are not the same etnic.
my dear zaza friend, the newst genetical research in max plank institut in germany shows that there are no ethnogenetical difference between zazas and other kurds, geneticaly we have the same relation to parthian. i guess the famili dynasty of sasanids were relatives of parthians. dont forget sasan was not a tribe, it was a family , a dynasty. but in linguistical aspect you are right 100%
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Parthian/Pahlawani is Pahlawani Kurdish! a Parthian text was found in Hawraman region of Kurdistan it was in Hawrami Kurdish which is Pahlawani. Parthianw as a northwestern iranian language not south western as Persian. YES You are so Proud because your DADY was An Elamite Indian.
the persian is a word used by western up to 1940 to describe all iranian and iranian culture,like german for duch which still use in english,so akhamneshid mpire,parthian,sasanid,were iranian empires made from all arian tribes of iran and also non arian ribes like arabs,jews,african.persian as modern iran language is the language originatein khorasan,tajikestan which call dari persian ,by poets like ferdosi toosi,roodaki,rumi.hese empires werent persian or kurdish but mix of all.
very true, medes, parthians etc all were persian tribes with different names and locations in iran, all spoke the same language too, thats why its so funny when kurds claim they are not persians, fuckin assholes
parthia is were called khorasan now.near mashhad in iran and local there speak persian dari.sasanid speak pahlavi persian ,similar to what lur and bahktiyari peak in south iran.
@AryanKnight02 dorood bar garami..there is no need to segment the iranians..that´s a european thing..and some greeks like herodotus.. allthough he wrote that median people anciently always called themselfs Aryan. Persian era was a small fragment of the iranian glory..scythian..sarmatian..parthian..median.. kyanian..alans.. persians..sassanian..were all iranic and aryan..because of the tribal warrior culture and pride they named their empires..like King Ardashir wrote eranshahr or Iranzamin
Theres no mention of kurds in relation with parthians sassanids. in fact according to encyclopedia:
Gershevitch and Fisher consider the independent Kardouchoi or Carduchi as the ancestors of the Kurds, or at least the original nucleus of the Iranian-speaking people in what is now Kurdistan.[28].
So they lived in mountains and somehow they started speaking iranian language.
Kurds are not only Iranian by Language but also by culture and most importantly by DNA they are very close to persians. The Kurds in Iraq might be less close to the mixing with Assyrians. Go to Turkey and look at a Kurds and then go to Iran and look at other Iranians they still look the same. Even the Azeri are Iranian they have just been brainwashed into thinking they are Mongoloid turks.
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PArthian were never these Elamites of Fars who called themselves Persians!. PArthians=KURDS. Ex Parthian:Asn Persian(south western):Ahan! Parthian was a North western Iranian language not South Western(Dravidian-Iranian). Parthian:Grift Persian:Gereft... Kurdish is the same! Parthian(Pahlawani) is KURDI
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Ardasher was a Kurd! his father belonged to Jaff Tribe who was originally from Bakhtaran/Kermanshah and he went to Fars region in south. Laks+Faylis are LURS who call themselves KURDS! while other lurs=persianized because they are surrounded by them. Luri Culture+music=KURDISH never PErsian.
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Bitch! a Text was found in Hawraman Region in Kurdistan it was in Parthian(pahlawani) and it was also Hawrami! all could understand it! During the war the parthians Fled! to Mountain regions of Hawraman! the area is surounded by Sorani speaking Kurds. Hawrami+Gurani in Kermanshah and Ilam+Fayli in PArthia region of South Iraq all are the same and called Pahlawani Kurdish!.The Sasanians brought Zororastrism back the war was because of Religions! Mithrayism+Zoroastrism
If a Person considers him or herself a member of this group, then you can't say anything about it, and they should be accepted in that group. For example like saying if the zazzas (Who don't speak Kurdish) consider theirself Kurdish then they have the right to call theirself Kurdish, the same goes for Lurs. If the Lurs, Mazandaranis, Gilakis etc... consider theirself persian (Which they do) then they should be considered as persians, and should be left the fuck alone since it was their choice.
look the only difference is that zazas are so close to kurdish than no other language and culturel ethnicly they are kurdish.Gilakis mazandranis are even clother to kurdish then persian.and lurs are persifized kurds.but today they are no kurds anymore just the small lors called leks and kelhurs.
so i i don´t give a fuck what big lors gilakis mazandraniscall call their self you can have them as persian.but that don´t make parthians persians :D because historicle persian were it not:D
lool again such a stupid comment man what am i talking about since my two last comments? why did i listet gilakis under parthian tribes if i had not heared about them?lol and gilaki is not the purest dialekt it is zazaki gilaki is fucked up by farsi so what is now tell me what I means in Gilaki if you are a real one.
I meant the Gilaki language, not people. Herodotus claims the Gilaks are "half scythian, half Greek" (obviously bullshit). Gilan was a part of the Dahae Confedaracy, consisting of Sakas. Gilaki dialect is mixed with Parsi, believe me. You do not even speak Gilaki and I highly doubt you speak Parsi you are saying this?
I don't know how to speak Gilaki (I was raised in the West).
i asked you what I means in Gilaki translate the english word I to gilaki man is this so hard?and what are talking again i just confirmed some comments before that gilaki is hard mixed with persian and thats why Gilaki is not purest parthianto hard to understand?
Lol, are you blind? I said I do not know how to speak Gilaki. My parents taught me Parsi, not Gilaki. Only my grandparents know how to speak Gilaki and they are in Iran right now. The Gilaki language is much closer to Kurdish, actually.
so like i told and you want to call yourself gilak?:) you are no gilak any more and yes gilaki is hard related to kurdish. I farsi =man gilaki=Ez mazandrani=Ez kurmanci,zazaki=Ez Parthian=Ez day farsi=roz glaki=roc mazandrani=roc kurmanji,zazaki=roj,roc parthian=roj so tell me who are parthians and who not?
I was born in Gilan. My parents were born in Gilan. Their parents were born in Gilan, Their parents were born in Gilan ect. It's not my fault that I was raised in the West, just as it's not the fault of many Kurds in Turkey who speak Turkish and not Kurdish. :)
The fact still remains. The Parthians were from the tribe of Parni who claimed descent from the eldest son of Darius II, but were really of Saka descent just like any historian will tell you.
you should deal withc your little penis :D haha i have seen many maps man of old areas and your persian cocksucker were the weakest under every iranic nation when the medians conquered hole middle east the scythians hole russia and east europe u persian fucked your own brothers on the persian gulf gaylords haha:D
The Western family includes Parthian (Arsacid Pahlavi) and Middle Persian, while Sogdian, Khwarezmian, Saka, and Old Ossetic (Scytho-Sarmatian) fall under the Eastern category. The two languages of the western group were linguistically very close to each other, but quite distinct from their eastern counterparts. On the other hand, the Eastern group retained some proximity to Avestan. They were inscribed in various Aramaic-derived alphabets, which had evolved from the Achaemenid Imperial Aramaic.
There is not one SINGLE source, let alone a reliable source, that claims the Parthians were of Mede descent. They were born in Northeast Iran, not Northwest Iran. Their influence is still alive in Northeast-west Iran.
A general name used since middle of twentieth century by Iraqi Arabs for the southern dialects of the Kurdish language spoken in Southern Kurdistan and Eastern Kurdistan (i.e. the eastern part of Iraq in the Khanaqin region in the Diyala province near the Iraqi-Iranian border), Ilam province and parts of Kermanshah province in Iran by Feyli Kurds.
lool what a fucking joke you are:) when did parthians used xon? you want to tell me what is linguistic?parthians lost the x in their language they didn´t used to say xon ;) nan was dtravidic persian cames from dravidian nan what means i;) parthians used ez like kurds.the der from brader you fucker is just a suffix ;) and was used by medians and all other northwestiranian tribes too you scam;) 90% of the words u used are bullshit just like your farsi theories haha you dravidian bastard:P
Shut the fuck up and speak english for fuck sakes. Noon/Nan is a Persian word that Indians use, and the reason why Indians have so many persian words in their language is mainly because of the Moghuls who adapted Persian as the official language of the Moghul empire. In fact, Persian was the official language of India til the Brits invaded it, so why don't you read a fucking book and educate yourself instead of fucking your goat :D
P.s, I got my sources from your precious wikipedia, lol.
In other words, These Northwestern dialects or south western dialects aren't close to eachother just because they're from that area. I don't know where you got your mentally retarded sources from, but if I had to guess, I would say it was from your ass.
who told you because they are from that are? man do you realy didn´t have a bit linguistic knowledge? if not why you trying to explain things you persian cocksucker even don´t understand? these languages are distinguished because your persian losers changed your hole arian language even in the old persian period to shit. while scythians(north iranic) tribes and parthians,Medians(northwest iranic) tribes used to speak so how it should be like;)
Dam man, does the truth hurt this much? You know where anger comes from? It's made out of fear, lol............ The Parthians were Persian, everything about them was Persian. Not all sources are correct, some even claim the Parthians were Isrealites. P.s, I got my sorces from and Parthian words your precious wikipedia
you fucking nude pussy? you thing i didn´t know that? and what is so important on that? did it change the fact that parthians used w and not xw(khw) ?? man you are just a stinki idiot wihtout any knowledge about iranic languages and iranic rue history .
You are such a moron. Tat, Tati is a Persian dialect and the people claim ancestry from the Sassanian Persians. The only reason why some iranian languages are refered to as North western or southwestern Iranian is because those DIALECTS were influenced and originated from there, that's all. P.s, Persian is the only languages in the midd-east that sounds anything close to a European (Latin) language, other ones, especially Kurdish, sound Arabic as fvck, hell you people even wear their clothes.
you big persians cocksucker :D this words are standad iranic words you listet in hear and most of them didn´even existed in parthi or midle persian.Xon didn´t existed in midle persian or parthi in parthi it was wen and in persian it was xwen,parthians didn´t used brad thy used brat like todays hewrami kurds and persian cocksuckers use barader. so try to convince some other idiots.you thing you know even better then archeoligs and so on even if archeoligs say parthians NO persians;)
but as i know and learned in school sassanis were CHOOBINs(shoankara) and chobins still same as that time have ships and are traveling among kermanshah nd ilam and still have no a own place
God, you are such a fucking dumbass. Tati is also considered a Northwestern Iranian language, yet it is considered a Persian dialect, and Tats are Persian sub-groups who are decendant of the Sassanians. All this means is that these languages were influenced in the North or the west, it doesn't make them any closer, but just explains where these DIALECTS originated from.
man are you stupid do i have to name every northwestiranic languages and since when did the tati language considered as a persian dialect? haha show me sources;)
so you want kurds from iran who fuck your ass? i will bring them just wait :P ever heared about azad ,xatar dillin hoox were came from iran and hate iran:P
man what are you talking again about:D leks are kurds they speak soutkurdish. i dont speak of ,lore bozorg. their are big lors and the small lor group which are called leks and this ones are kurd;)
Medes and Persians are foundation of Iran. You fake Kurds can run along and scream "separation!" all you'd like, but it will never happen. Have you people ever been to Iran? I have not met one Iranian inside Iran who wants to see Iran separated and I have spoken to Kurds, Azeris, Gilaks, Persians, Baluchis and Mazandaranis. All of you separates were not even born in Iran and work from the outside to brainwash Iranians.
lol thats realy the exact same way how turks speak :) they say the same the mean they have talked to all kurds from turkey and no one of them want to seperate turkey loool if you want to see kurds from irani part who wants a kurdistan look at my site ;) there are many of theM:D
it is a fact that medes and parthians where forfatehrs of todays kurds(zaza kurmanc ,soran, hewram ,lek) mazandrans gilaks and tats.they didn´t are persians :D
i never said sassanids where kurds sassanids were persian yes ashimeds big part but you stupid persians claim that perthians medians loleven skythians were persians? haha
The Parthians were from the Parni tribe and even claimed descent from Artaxerxes II, the eldest son of Darius II, a Persian. However, they were a Central Asian people who migrated South in modern day Khorasan, Mazandaran, Uzbekistan, Turkmanistan ect. They were never Medes. King Arsaces was either a Scythian or Bacterian, not Medish. The Parni tribe were a Scythian people, not Medish.
loool are you kidding me man? you persians used the word iranic likepersian the whol fucking comments are full of shit like parthians are persians.lol and we kurdas are iranic too you stupid fucker so don´t try to steal kurdish northwestiranic history and make them persian BECAUSE IT IS NOT!!. most gilakis and mazandranis are today assimilated and dont speak their mother language so you are persian and have nothing to do with northwest iranic branche anymore
Well the Parthians were sure as hell not a Kurdish people. Propagandists like yourself have fallen right into the hands of the Jews, but I'm sure you're cozy. I'm sure you bend over and take it with a smile on your face.
Gilakis and Mazandaranis openly speak their native tongues. Every Iranian is assimilated...that's why they are called Iranian.
believe it or not we have sources that todays hewram lek and zaza kurds speak an parthian dialect because of the x losing in xw=w thats one point and because zazas use to be called daimlis and in parthia their was an province named dailam! so if you gilaks use to speak your own language so tell me what is I in gilaki?
I'm not sure about that, but let say it was true. That is because people move around. The Parthians not just confined to North Eastern Iran and never allowed to migrate anywhere. They were the rulers of Iran for God's sake. Their tribes moved and migrated freely. There were even Scythian settlements in Northwestern Iran.
Have you ever heard of Gilaki? It's a Northwestern Iranian dialect and probably one of the most pure.
Where is this Kurdistan that everyone is talking about? I see Turkey, Iraq and Iran...no Kurdistan.
You pan-retard Kurds can take a pen and draw your fake nation all you want on that map on yours in your small room, but that does not make it real you pathetic wastes of skin and bones.
You little scum again and again eh im tired. Listen Scum jan, Kurd is not a Kurdish Word! the stupid Assyrians and Babylonians called everyone Kurd from Zagros and mountain Regions! together with the Sumerians! Kurd is not a Kurdish Word at all! We have Gotten this name do u understand? finally by the Seljuqs! 1172! something like that! the name of Kurd is NOT Kurdish. Now Piss off.
Again Fuck you! ow your own Government fucks you! not kurds. Scythians were not Parthians if u have a Donkey's brain just let me now!. You are GAY you Persians have 120 000 Transexual GAYS in IRan!. If we are Mongols You are Dark uglyyyyyy Elamites! go see ur Golf and Fuck off bitch!. OK We are Mongols but You are A Mixture between Mongol-Arab-Dravidian-African tfffffff piss offffff. PArthians are KURDS Everything is KURDISH
u r Khar TFFFFFFFFFFF, i tried to respect stupid people like u but it does not work! Come and lickkkkkk allllllllllllll Kurdish pussies! TF again bisharaf . U stupid little Shitttttttt Persian has no W Fuck off u scum Pahlawan is Kurdish and Persian has been more Turko-Arabian now!.
Kurdistan before was the land of Hurrians! who were a white People! and not indo-europian but Caucasians! when Kurds came they got assimilated! and the nummber of Kurds was much higher than them! I dont beleive that these white Kurds are Real Kurds but they can be Hurrians or Greeks who got Assimilated in Kurdistan! We have even Turkish tribes who got Assimilated! But we are never that mixed as the rest of Iranians!
YES Greeks also built many cities in Kurdistan! and they called it Media! the late Proof: 1 year ago a Helenic Greek mummy was found in Raniye Region of Slemany Province of South Kurdistan!. The Texts of the grave was in Greek and it said she was burried in land of Media. Kurdish Clothes are Symbol of Iranism Aryanism! they are the best and nicest Symbol of the east Indo-Europians! lol and your Shirin Abadi invited kurdish Kamkars to sing and present Iran! lolllll in EU. lolllllllllll
A typical thing for Dravidianism is the Real Real Black hair! afew Persians have a very very black hair and darker skinn as the Baluches. And Again Schytians came from Caucasus to Kurdistan! and tuled Kurdistan more than 28 years! they settled around Urmia! later they became a part of Kurds and called themselves Matienes! in Kurdistan. Today the Shkaki Kurds who speak Kurmanji are the same as these Scythians(matienes) and when Kurds captured Assyria they used the Scythian soldiers.
the Region of Parthia has Kurdish Population NOW! just go and look Khorasani Kurdistan! the Kurds from this Area is Kurmanji Speaking Kurds who were forced to go to this Area from Azerbaijan!. Parthia is Kurdish and Kurdistani! Parthian=Pahlawani in Kurdish, which means language of Heroes! Pahlawan=Parthian=Hero! even Sharafxan Says that!.
again a stupid boy?:) did you read what i öpost?:D i gaved oyour persian brains so much sources that parthians were no Persian!! they hated persians and were mithra people no zoroastrians
Afew Kurds are white! in northern parts of Kurdistan and we Still have afew white kurds too in southern parts of Kurdistan. The Dances and Culture are Indo-Europian and the same as Bulgarian serbian Bosnian Albanian....etc! they are Far far away from arabic even though arabs are Neighours of Kurdistan!. Persian Culture Dances and Clothes are the same As Arabic! Arabic belly dance is ur main dance you dont have any hand-holding Dances! and the Persians of South can be Everything but NOT Arian.
let me Guess! PEople say Persians of Tehran and North Iran are very close to Armenians!(Caucasians)! this is according DNA too! in Northern Iran there were Caucasian peoples! who got Turkified,Persianized...... for example Azeris! who are an Irano-Caucasian nation by blood! and their culture is still Caucasian as Georgian. Middle Persian had W suddenly the W got changed to B or V(Turkish). Khuzi (Elamite) became a Persian Dialect! this and Turkish language destroyed Persian.
Look at these Kurdish idiots calling us darvadians while in reality kurds are the only ones reffered to as degenerate gypsies of the middle-east, and in the apparently in the Iranic family.
you know that a big part of gypsis fled to persia when the mongols attacked india;) and you realy want to tell me kurds look more dravidian then persian?? :D haha you stupid fool 50% of kurds and Medes are hurrian hethithe and greek mixed people;) even a city of kurds is named after a greek comandand from alexandrias time.I talk about bedlis(turkish bitlis)
turkish penis is no kurdish penis i bet the big penises of iran are kurdish ones :D haha even girls here they kurds have the biggest.you want to see kurdish dicks? whatch this ;)
loool again such a stupid comment from a persian dickhead haha:D 60% of turkish words are mongolian and you idiot no one counted the iranic words in turkish as turkish.we talk about 40% real arabic turkic words thats prooven;) kurdish kurmanji is the puurest iranic language today is prooven too it has 85% real iranic words whil sorani has 80% zazaki 75% persian just has 60%:D
jsut another stupid comment from a digless persian come on go one you mongol arabic mixed bastards you look most northindian people no way like scythians:D
We never claim they were Persian, we claim they were all Iranian peoples. It's idiots like you who believe every Iranian is automatically Persian. Suck a cock like you usually do you retarded mule. I am Gilaki and I would rather aid my Persian brothers than you fake Kurds.
We never claim they were Persian, we claim they were all Iranian peoples. It's idiots like you who believe every Iranian is automatically Persian. Suck a cock like you usually do you retarded mule. I am Gilaki and I would rather aid my Persian brothers than you fake Kurds.
man are you just fudcked up? springing from same root dont mean to be the same? are kurds and persians the same you idiot? do kurds and persian like each other even with related roots? no.i have sources that mithra people hated zoroastrians go ask your gay dad maybe he knows more fact is historians are exactly thinking like me;) and no real historican clame that medians parthians skythians were Persian how should they if persian is the youngest part of iranic languages:D
Ezdanism is just a MIXTURE BETWEEN MITRAYISM AND zoroastrism. Iraqi kurds? most of them have iranic blood and afew are very very white especially those in nolrthern Area who were in fact white Hurrians, and afew were Assyrians who got Kurdified, and the majority of so called irqaqi kurds came from iran! jaf,zangana... tribes all came from iran.
The Parthians were actually half Persians and half Scythians. Hell even the Scythians were ancient Iranian people. The Parthians just like the Sassanids always claimed that their grandfather was Artaxerxes II king of Persia.
Who the fuck said that the Parthians were kurds???????
Hell even the Medes claimed themselves as the true Iranians and the first group of Iranian people the first Iranian empire .
Iranic you son of a bitch just means arian::D not persian so its normal that they claimed to be iranian.Kurdish is iranic too but not persian just like parthian median and skythian all where from the north branche of iiranic languages while dravidian mixed persian is from south branche south like india :D
The people of the real Persia were mixed Arian and Dravidian so plz dont denny that thanks! there are 1000000000 proofs! until now real real persians look indic. the name of the Elamite dravidian language was Khuzi! in Persian! Now Khuzi has been a Pure Dialect of Persian which is called Farsiye Khuzi. how did it happen? while khuzi was Dravidian of Elam and Persian indo-europian?
OOO god, here we have this dumb fucking ugly bitch barking again. Listen you dumb smelly mountain goat fucking dipshit. You haven't even proven that you're decendants of Medes yet, so why don't you just take things slow and stop barking so much garbage out of your ass!
parthians didn´t spoked a middel persians dialect they spoked a northwestiranian dialect which is just a bit relatedt to persian RELATED don´t means the same;)
source Wikipedia.
xonomically, Parthian belongs to the Northwestern Iranian language group, while its close relative, Middle Persian, belongs to the Southwestern Iranian language group.
Kurds speak northwestiranic just like parthians;) so who is related to them?
bro i know but not just persian south kurdish people from elam too but in fact it is jsut 10% of kurdish population who look like persians the rest is mixed with other people
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EricTyce ok at least sometimes these kindes of kurds can be found! but the number of the dark indic dravidian persians are much higher have you seen Shiraz? the persians around the sea?
VERY nice video, great job. I like the last part when the statues were dancing with the music! LOL I see a lot of hate remarks here! WOW, peace brothers we are all "the same shit" called HUMANS! LOL PEACE NOT HATE.
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Yes of course I dont mean the Iranic Persians! but I have seen Persians with very Dark lips and hair! I mean Dravidian Blood! not even Semitic!. I can show you!.+Look at Arash+Afshin for example! they are never Iranic at all! where did All those Dark Elamites go? in southern Iran? They became Persians!.
@famemonster1993 When have I said anything to the contrary? My point is simple: the Parthians were of Scythian descent who claimed Persian ancestry through Artaxerxes II.
Marduniya 5 months ago
@famemonster1993 The Parthians (at least the aristocracy and rulers) descended from the Parni tribe, closely related to the Scythians and originating in the same region in which the Scythians dwelled.
Marduniya 5 months ago
Zendebad Iran.
IranHistory 8 months ago
Iran a nation who invented the cataphract..yes meaning Iranians being the first knights of the world..who fought wars strategically and honorable.. you nasty sandniggers killed woman and children were waiting all this time in the sand till finally iranian empire was at its weaks..iranians witheld 4 corners of the world..3 colonies over 2700 years..
iran hargez naxahad mord
solo141984 1 year ago
@iragiarabian you little slut.. which planet are you from..your ancestors copied more from iran. this is a fundemental fact.. second... culturally we attributed most to the world.. you dare to compare your nasty people to the glory of the Iranians.
the true iranian heritage is that of the shahnameh Epic of kings..kings of kings. iranian aryans are the first who domesticated the horse nisean chargers becoming warrior tribes competing in that region internally and externally for 5000 of years..
solo141984 1 year ago
fucking video like you , hatra is arabic not fucking persian , you show all these gays and feel proud of them ,can you give me name of one scientst or invention in these periods , all what you can do is just steal civilization of others , all what you have is just copying of semitic civilization , you forgrt where did you come from you fucking hairy asians indians
IraqiArabian 1 year ago
@IraqiArabian :-D we can't name scientists of that era because you burnt down our libraries and killed our scientists. And now look whose talking! we copied from you? oh...! pour arabs have nothing but lies. funny enough, the most celebrated and renowned muslim scientists were also Persians.
gorgealaki 9 months ago
similar? we have savaran origin too:D parthians had hungarian runes :D they were our ancestors! and why have more iranic words in hungarian language too?
PANNONcarpathius 1 year ago
thats persias golden age 100 afsoos
chaghar 1 year ago
Parthians are Medes !
legharibaloch1 1 year ago
@legharibaloch1 They were of Scythian descent who claimed Persian ancestry.
Marduniya 1 year ago
A szaszanidák elit lovasai szavárok voltak, Emese és a Turul volt a pajzsdíszük!
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
thay were just diffrent dynesies of IRAN, that came after each other on power.
why in west thay try to say this dynestys as diffrent empire not iranian empire but when it come to roman , thay say roman empire,
i ask , did roma have only one dynesty ruleing in all its history???
hitler110ss 1 year ago
these slides would have been great if there had been a good descriptian and left out the crappy mustc
TroyBilt007 1 year ago
fuck the persian hating kurds, always hating on persians and iran and come up with dumb shit claiming kurds were in iran before persians and shit, fuckin morons, kurds are the same as arabs in my opinions, they should be lucky they ever even mentioned in the same sentence as iran, bunch of culture, history stealing low lives good for nothing but being gased to death
wolverine223 1 year ago
I'm not sure how much the music fits
Michael0VCSU 1 year ago
Well according to all historical documents written in those days, Parthians are also mentioned as Schytians or Huns, later as Magyars. They were part of the Turanian empire, so all the Turanian nations will find cultural similarities with them, but please, with all due respect towards Iraq, let's not forget that Iraqis descend from the Assyrians, so we can only talk of an inimical relation between the 2 empires in those days.
GuardeAvantgarde 1 year ago
@GuardeAvantgarde
The Parthian kings, although eventually ruling over Persia and Mesopotamia, came from a specific nomadic tribe called the Parni, which at the time was part of the Dahae Confederacy. This confederacy had been known since Achaemenid times. In terms of culture and ethnicity, the Parni were an Iranian people who spoke an eastern Iranian dialect.
EricMetalGuitarist 1 year ago
@EricMetalGuitarist I'd be very interested to read more about this subject if you can give a reference. To my knowledge, Parthians descended from the Kush and Kungar dynasties, and that would be more logical, since it's hard to believe that a nomadic tribe got so strong culturally and in regards of their warfare, that they've became the most feared enemies of the Roman empire. Their culture was also identical to old Mesopotamian cultures,
GuardeAvantgarde 1 year ago
@GuardeAvantgarde of which culture we can only find traces within the Assyrian, the Persian and the Egyptian cultures. I'd agree with the fact that after a while they've lived in a confederation, since those days the sole enemy of the eastern cultures was the Roman empire. As far as the Dahae confederacy is concerned, I know of it as Hun confederacy, of which the Dahae nation was also part of. Let me know if you have politically not revised and authentic references. Thanx...
GuardeAvantgarde 1 year ago
@GuardeAvantgarde
Hello. I'm User:PericlesofAthens at Wikipedia; I wrote the entire article on the Parthian Empire. If you would like to see specific academic sources on the origins of the Parthian kings, I would refer you to Bivar (1983), Katouzian (2009), Brosius (2006), and Curtis (2007). Bivar perhaps gives the most detailed explanation about the nomadic Parni in the Cambridge History of Iran (pub. Cambridge University Press).
EricMetalGuitarist 1 year ago
@GuardeAvantgarde
...also, it should be stressed that the Parni abandoned their Iranian dialect and adopted the regional Parthian language (a western Iranian dialect) as their official court language. They also abandoned much of their nomadic traditions, adopting Seleucid-Greek and Achaemenid-Persian notions of kingship and rule. The Parthian Empire was in fact culturally heterogeneous, with many different languages spoken and different religions observed, such as Judaism and Zoroastrianism.
EricMetalGuitarist 1 year ago
we are zaza not kurds
HESO9999 1 year ago
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تحفه 2500 سا ل فر هنگ شا هنشا هی = فحا شی , تظا هر , حقه با ز ی , د ر و غ , ز و ر گو ئی , و طن فر و شی, خو د خو ا هی
Bahai+ rajavi+ pahlavi criminals served 4 saddam 20 yrs in killing+ toturing civilians in iraq +iran
fuck iran+persian
Long live Kurdistan
changizkhan1231 2 years ago
Emperor Heraclius...
nickpafras 2 years ago
The Iranian family of tribes is actually the closest relative of the original Mediterranean tribes - these are obviously the Hellenics (Greek tribes). Still quite an important % of modern Iranians (not my friend Ahmadinejad though...) could pass unidentified in Greece and that is interesting given that really few Greeks were ever installed in Iran and virtually no Persians were ever installed in Greece (perhaps western Minor Asia? Still very few...).
papagamias 2 years ago
I do not know, I am Greek so not so knowledgeable on these issues. But I think ancient Kurds were the Kardouhoi mentioned by ancient Greeks. They were supposed to be one of the different Iranian tribes.
Actually I see Iranian people a large group of tribes including brother tribes Medes, Persians, Parthians and then cousin tribes like Kurds, then 2nd cousin tribes like Armenians (not the same nation of course) and from there on northern Caucasians like Scythians, Alans, Sarmatians.
papagamias 2 years ago
we are zaza sasan and we live in turkey
xZazaSivereKx 2 years ago
zazas are the real sassanians.
Long live Zaza=Sasa
erde78 2 years ago
Fuck Kurdish fags.
Zartushta 2 years ago
@Zartushta
yes fuck the kurish faggots who hate iran and being persian, but live in iran and are trying to steal land
wolverine223 1 year ago
After the fall of sassanids persian fled to china and were accepted by the emperor to restart and build up the iranian culture over their, pirozz the prince and son of the last king of persia before arabs came
FreedomFighter08 2 years ago
YES aaaaaaa they are Kurdish too
xOxKurdParstxOx 2 years ago
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persianiranforever idiot, You think you are old Persians with your Arabic language? with your lost dead culture? Old Persians were KURDS wandered from Kurdistan to South Iran, and PArthian are and WERE KURDS and will BE KURDS. You stupid ignorant retard.
xOxKurdParstxOx 2 years ago
LOL
Go read some history books.
SassanianPrince 2 years ago 2
Lmfao.
Nigerians, the Chinese, Swedes and Spaniards are Kurdish too.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
Parthians are Zaza from etnic. I;m a kurd but we must not stole a history.. Not Persians, Not Kurds (medians) But it's from the Zaza people. The Zaza's are living now in Turkey Kurdistan. The name the have it from the sassanid empire.. sasa= zaza. Medians = are Manji (magi) Kur= Son, Manj = Median., Kurmanji = Son of the medians KUR=KURDISTAN .. The zaza and the kurmanji are from Kurdistan region.. they have called both kurds.but they are not the same etnic.
DersimBingol 2 years ago 2
@dersimbingol,
my dear zaza friend, the newst genetical research in max plank institut in germany shows that there are no ethnogenetical difference between zazas and other kurds, geneticaly we have the same relation to parthian. i guess the famili dynasty of sasanids were relatives of parthians. dont forget sasan was not a tribe, it was a family , a dynasty. but in linguistical aspect you are right 100%
yarffmde 2 years ago
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Parthian/Pahlawani is Pahlawani Kurdish! a Parthian text was found in Hawraman region of Kurdistan it was in Hawrami Kurdish which is Pahlawani. Parthianw as a northwestern iranian language not south western as Persian. YES You are so Proud because your DADY was An Elamite Indian.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
the persian is a word used by western up to 1940 to describe all iranian and iranian culture,like german for duch which still use in english,so akhamneshid mpire,parthian,sasanid,were iranian empires made from all arian tribes of iran and also non arian ribes like arabs,jews,african.persian as modern iran language is the language originatein khorasan,tajikestan which call dari persian ,by poets like ferdosi toosi,roodaki,rumi.hese empires werent persian or kurdish but mix of all.
sspersian 2 years ago
sspersian , U are right . finally I found one sensible person on youtube.
mreza1979 2 years ago
@sspersian
very true, medes, parthians etc all were persian tribes with different names and locations in iran, all spoke the same language too, thats why its so funny when kurds claim they are not persians, fuckin assholes
wolverine223 1 year ago
Parthians were the heirs of Great Scythia.
They were a sort of sedentary Scythians mixed with some Persians.
But they were'nt Median.
Parthian is neither Kurd nor Persian, Parthian is Iranic.
AryanKnight02 2 years ago 10
parthia is were called khorasan now.near mashhad in iran and local there speak persian dari.sasanid speak pahlavi persian ,similar to what lur and bahktiyari peak in south iran.
sspersian 2 years ago
@AryanKnight02
parthians were scythian rulers and iranian common people.
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
@AryanKnight02 dorood bar garami..there is no need to segment the iranians..that´s a european thing..and some greeks like herodotus.. allthough he wrote that median people anciently always called themselfs Aryan. Persian era was a small fragment of the iranian glory..scythian..sarmatian..parthian..median.. kyanian..alans.. persians..sassanian..were all iranic and aryan..because of the tribal warrior culture and pride they named their empires..like King Ardashir wrote eranshahr or Iranzamin
solo141984 1 year ago
IRAN had 3 great dynasties over 1100 years before islamic invasion, all those deynasties were the greatest of the world
i prefer the sassanid dynasty specially
Fravahar 2 years ago 8
I have done a quick research
and Parthian is related to middle persian,
Theres no mention of kurds in relation with parthians sassanids. in fact according to encyclopedia:
Gershevitch and Fisher consider the independent Kardouchoi or Carduchi as the ancestors of the Kurds, or at least the original nucleus of the Iranian-speaking people in what is now Kurdistan.[28].
So they lived in mountains and somehow they started speaking iranian language.
TimClockers 2 years ago 5
Kurds are not only Iranian by Language but also by culture and most importantly by DNA they are very close to persians. The Kurds in Iraq might be less close to the mixing with Assyrians. Go to Turkey and look at a Kurds and then go to Iran and look at other Iranians they still look the same. Even the Azeri are Iranian they have just been brainwashed into thinking they are Mongoloid turks.
Garudaa 2 years ago 3
The are arians that's why, but iranians today deny that
FreedomFighter08 2 years ago
fascinating video thanks for the upload
4p3gr
TimClockers 2 years ago
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PArthian were never these Elamites of Fars who called themselves Persians!. PArthians=KURDS. Ex Parthian:Asn Persian(south western):Ahan! Parthian was a North western Iranian language not South Western(Dravidian-Iranian). Parthian:Grift Persian:Gereft... Kurdish is the same! Parthian(Pahlawani) is KURDI
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
idiot
Parthian was Empire which is located in north=east of Iran asshole
Median was first tribes of Iranic people
read history asshole
Im Parthian, am i kurd no
MEDIAN , PARTHIAN THEY ALL IRANIAN EMPIRE WHO WAS RULING OVER IRAN PLATEAU
persianiranforever 2 years ago 3
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Ardasher was a Kurd! his father belonged to Jaff Tribe who was originally from Bakhtaran/Kermanshah and he went to Fars region in south. Laks+Faylis are LURS who call themselves KURDS! while other lurs=persianized because they are surrounded by them. Luri Culture+music=KURDISH never PErsian.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
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Bitch! a Text was found in Hawraman Region in Kurdistan it was in Parthian(pahlawani) and it was also Hawrami! all could understand it! During the war the parthians Fled! to Mountain regions of Hawraman! the area is surounded by Sorani speaking Kurds. Hawrami+Gurani in Kermanshah and Ilam+Fayli in PArthia region of South Iraq all are the same and called Pahlawani Kurdish!.The Sasanians brought Zororastrism back the war was because of Religions! Mithrayism+Zoroastrism
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
If a Person considers him or herself a member of this group, then you can't say anything about it, and they should be accepted in that group. For example like saying if the zazzas (Who don't speak Kurdish) consider theirself Kurdish then they have the right to call theirself Kurdish, the same goes for Lurs. If the Lurs, Mazandaranis, Gilakis etc... consider theirself persian (Which they do) then they should be considered as persians, and should be left the fuck alone since it was their choice.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
look the only difference is that zazas are so close to kurdish than no other language and culturel ethnicly they are kurdish.Gilakis mazandranis are even clother to kurdish then persian.and lurs are persifized kurds.but today they are no kurds anymore just the small lors called leks and kelhurs.
dataman121 2 years ago
so i i don´t give a fuck what big lors gilakis mazandraniscall call their self you can have them as persian.but that don´t make parthians persians :D because historicle persian were it not:D
dataman121 2 years ago
lool again such a stupid comment man what am i talking about since my two last comments? why did i listet gilakis under parthian tribes if i had not heared about them?lol and gilaki is not the purest dialekt it is zazaki gilaki is fucked up by farsi so what is now tell me what I means in Gilaki if you are a real one.
dataman121 2 years ago
I meant the Gilaki language, not people. Herodotus claims the Gilaks are "half scythian, half Greek" (obviously bullshit). Gilan was a part of the Dahae Confedaracy, consisting of Sakas. Gilaki dialect is mixed with Parsi, believe me. You do not even speak Gilaki and I highly doubt you speak Parsi you are saying this?
I don't know how to speak Gilaki (I was raised in the West).
99999999988888888 2 years ago
i asked you what I means in Gilaki translate the english word I to gilaki man is this so hard?and what are talking again i just confirmed some comments before that gilaki is hard mixed with persian and thats why Gilaki is not purest parthianto hard to understand?
dataman121 2 years ago
Lol, are you blind? I said I do not know how to speak Gilaki. My parents taught me Parsi, not Gilaki. Only my grandparents know how to speak Gilaki and they are in Iran right now. The Gilaki language is much closer to Kurdish, actually.
Google is always a click away.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
dataman121 2 years ago
I was born in Gilan. My parents were born in Gilan. Their parents were born in Gilan, Their parents were born in Gilan ect. It's not my fault that I was raised in the West, just as it's not the fault of many Kurds in Turkey who speak Turkish and not Kurdish. :)
The fact still remains. The Parthians were from the tribe of Parni who claimed descent from the eldest son of Darius II, but were really of Saka descent just like any historian will tell you.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
you want sources you idiot? here are again sources look at the mapand watch from which language parthian camed from.
htt p: //tit us.u ni-frankfurt. d e/didact/idg/iran/iranste5.jpg
dataman121 2 years ago
Yep, The Parthians themself claimed lineaged of the achaemenids. Yet these dumbasses still want to say that they were not Persian.
They were as Persian as the acheamenids, sassanians and every other Persian dynasty, deal with it you jealouse low-life losers :D
persiandudeee 2 years ago
you should deal withc your little penis :D haha i have seen many maps man of old areas and your persian cocksucker were the weakest under every iranic nation when the medians conquered hole middle east the scythians hole russia and east europe u persian fucked your own brothers on the persian gulf gaylords haha:D
dataman121 2 years ago
The Western family includes Parthian (Arsacid Pahlavi) and Middle Persian, while Sogdian, Khwarezmian, Saka, and Old Ossetic (Scytho-Sarmatian) fall under the Eastern category. The two languages of the western group were linguistically very close to each other, but quite distinct from their eastern counterparts. On the other hand, the Eastern group retained some proximity to Avestan. They were inscribed in various Aramaic-derived alphabets, which had evolved from the Achaemenid Imperial Aramaic.
persiandudeee 2 years ago 3
There is not one SINGLE source, let alone a reliable source, that claims the Parthians were of Mede descent. They were born in Northeast Iran, not Northwest Iran. Their influence is still alive in Northeast-west Iran.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
here from wikipedia;)
Feyli (also Fayli or Faili) can refer to:
A general name used since middle of twentieth century by Iraqi Arabs for the southern dialects of the Kurdish language spoken in Southern Kurdistan and Eastern Kurdistan (i.e. the eastern part of Iraq in the Khanaqin region in the Diyala province near the Iraqi-Iranian border), Ilam province and parts of Kermanshah province in Iran by Feyli Kurds.
this ones are leks:)
dataman121 2 years ago
man i just showed you a few examples of parthian kurdish gilaki persian language ias that not enough? you persian are real digheads
dataman121 2 years ago
Okay, here's a example for your shit filled brain :)
Middle Persian: hučihr, hužihr, xōn, nân, âwurdan, āwāy-, āwar-, bar-, brād, brâdar, âmadan, awar.
Parthian: hužihr, xōn, nân, āwāy-, āwar-, bar-, brād, brādar, awar, čām
There's no doubt that Parthian was a dialect of Middle-Persian.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
lool what a fucking joke you are:) when did parthians used xon? you want to tell me what is linguistic?parthians lost the x in their language they didn´t used to say xon ;) nan was dtravidic persian cames from dravidian nan what means i;) parthians used ez like kurds.the der from brader you fucker is just a suffix ;) and was used by medians and all other northwestiranian tribes too you scam;) 90% of the words u used are bullshit just like your farsi theories haha you dravidian bastard:P
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persiandudeee 2 years ago
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Shut the fuck up and speak english for fuck sakes. Noon/Nan is a Persian word that Indians use, and the reason why Indians have so many persian words in their language is mainly because of the Moghuls who adapted Persian as the official language of the Moghul empire. In fact, Persian was the official language of India til the Brits invaded it, so why don't you read a fucking book and educate yourself instead of fucking your goat :D
P.s, I got my sources from your precious wikipedia, lol.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
In other words, These Northwestern dialects or south western dialects aren't close to eachother just because they're from that area. I don't know where you got your mentally retarded sources from, but if I had to guess, I would say it was from your ass.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
who told you because they are from that are? man do you realy didn´t have a bit linguistic knowledge? if not why you trying to explain things you persian cocksucker even don´t understand? these languages are distinguished because your persian losers changed your hole arian language even in the old persian period to shit. while scythians(north iranic) tribes and parthians,Medians(northwest iranic) tribes used to speak so how it should be like;)
dataman121 2 years ago
Dam man, does the truth hurt this much? You know where anger comes from? It's made out of fear, lol............ The Parthians were Persian, everything about them was Persian. Not all sources are correct, some even claim the Parthians were Isrealites. P.s, I got my sorces from and Parthian words your precious wikipedia
persiandudeee 2 years ago
Go to Wikipedia and type in Iranian languages, and compare the Parthian words to the Middle-Persian ones.
Be jealouse bitch :)
persiandudeee 2 years ago
What the fuck do you have to say now Kurdish bitch?
persiandudeee 2 years ago
ou dumb uneducated dipshit. X stands for KH in those words.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
you fucking nude pussy? you thing i didn´t know that? and what is so important on that? did it change the fact that parthians used w and not xw(khw) ?? man you are just a stinki idiot wihtout any knowledge about iranic languages and iranic rue history .
dataman121 2 years ago
i want you to look at this map and tell me why middle persian is drwan so far away from farsi.you farsi pussy haha:D
htt p: //tit us.u ni-frankfurt. d e/didact/idg/iran/iranste5.jpg
dataman121 2 years ago
You are such a moron. Tat, Tati is a Persian dialect and the people claim ancestry from the Sassanian Persians. The only reason why some iranian languages are refered to as North western or southwestern Iranian is because those DIALECTS were influenced and originated from there, that's all. P.s, Persian is the only languages in the midd-east that sounds anything close to a European (Latin) language, other ones, especially Kurdish, sound Arabic as fvck, hell you people even wear their clothes.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
you big persians cocksucker :D this words are standad iranic words you listet in hear and most of them didn´even existed in parthi or midle persian.Xon didn´t existed in midle persian or parthi in parthi it was wen and in persian it was xwen,parthians didn´t used brad thy used brat like todays hewrami kurds and persian cocksuckers use barader. so try to convince some other idiots.you thing you know even better then archeoligs and so on even if archeoligs say parthians NO persians;)
dataman121 2 years ago
but as i know and learned in school sassanis were CHOOBINs(shoankara) and chobins still same as that time have ships and are traveling among kermanshah nd ilam and still have no a own place
lakkurdistan 2 years ago
God, you are such a fucking dumbass. Tati is also considered a Northwestern Iranian language, yet it is considered a Persian dialect, and Tats are Persian sub-groups who are decendant of the Sassanians. All this means is that these languages were influenced in the North or the west, it doesn't make them any closer, but just explains where these DIALECTS originated from.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
man are you stupid do i have to name every northwestiranic languages and since when did the tati language considered as a persian dialect? haha show me sources;)
dataman121 2 years ago
Where were you born dataman121 and FireOfMedia? Iraq? Turkey?
Hahaha, pathetic.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
where were you born 9999998888 under ahmedi necat? xomeni or the shah? haha:D
dataman121 2 years ago
I was born in Gilan (Rasht), Iran, under the Islamic Republic the same year the war was over under Khomeini.
Were you born in Iraq under Saddam's rule?
99999999988888888 2 years ago
you are realy an idiot:)
dataman121 2 years ago
Yeah, that's usually the reply a confused imbecile uses when he knows he is beat.
Take a hike, pal, and spoke commenting on Iranian videos.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
lol you beat me? with wich sources ? you just fucking cryed like a pussy haha:D let the people who read our comments make their one judgment;)
dataman121 2 years ago
which*
cried*
own judgment*
99999999988888888 2 years ago
So answer my question, where were you born? Because I can guarantee you that it's either Turkey, Iraq or some Western country.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
so you want kurds from iran who fuck your ass? i will bring them just wait :P ever heared about azad ,xatar dillin hoox were came from iran and hate iran:P
dataman121 2 years ago
To fuck my ass? What? Are you a flaming homo?
What the hell is Lek Kurd? Lori? Lors are NOT Kurds, but they are of Medes descent. Kurds are only ONE of the many Iranian peoples of Medes descent.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
man what are you talking again about:D leks are kurds they speak soutkurdish. i dont speak of ,lore bozorg. their are big lors and the small lor group which are called leks and this ones are kurd;)
dataman121 2 years ago
nooooo man im a lorestani lak and a real kurd.many of iraqi kurds are lak nothing can change our kurdish ID
lakkurdistan 2 years ago
my dad is half lek kurd from iran kermashan and half of turkey and i was born their;)
dataman121 2 years ago
LOL, so your father is half Turkish? I thought so.
Where's your mom from?
99999999988888888 2 years ago
half kurd from turkey not turkish ;) my mom is ,kurd from turkey ,too
dataman121 2 years ago
Medes and Persians are foundation of Iran. You fake Kurds can run along and scream "separation!" all you'd like, but it will never happen. Have you people ever been to Iran? I have not met one Iranian inside Iran who wants to see Iran separated and I have spoken to Kurds, Azeris, Gilaks, Persians, Baluchis and Mazandaranis. All of you separates were not even born in Iran and work from the outside to brainwash Iranians.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
lol thats realy the exact same way how turks speak :) they say the same the mean they have talked to all kurds from turkey and no one of them want to seperate turkey loool if you want to see kurds from irani part who wants a kurdistan look at my site ;) there are many of theM:D
dataman121 2 years ago
I have spoken with many of the people on your friends list. Most of them were born in Turkey and Iraq, only a few in Iran.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
it is a fact that medes and parthians where forfatehrs of todays kurds(zaza kurmanc ,soran, hewram ,lek) mazandrans gilaks and tats.they didn´t are persians :D
dataman121 2 years ago
"omg the Sassanids were Kurdish! The Parthians were Kurdish! Zoroastrianism is Kurdish religion! Azeris are Kurds! The world was made by Kurds."
Shut up already.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
i never said sassanids where kurds sassanids were persian yes ashimeds big part but you stupid persians claim that perthians medians loleven skythians were persians? haha
dataman121 2 years ago
Not you specifically, but FireOfMedia.
The Parthians were from the Parni tribe and even claimed descent from Artaxerxes II, the eldest son of Darius II, a Persian. However, they were a Central Asian people who migrated South in modern day Khorasan, Mazandaran, Uzbekistan, Turkmanistan ect. They were never Medes. King Arsaces was either a Scythian or Bacterian, not Medish. The Parni tribe were a Scythian people, not Medish.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
loool are you kidding me man? you persians used the word iranic likepersian the whol fucking comments are full of shit like parthians are persians.lol and we kurdas are iranic too you stupid fucker so don´t try to steal kurdish northwestiranic history and make them persian BECAUSE IT IS NOT!!. most gilakis and mazandranis are today assimilated and dont speak their mother language so you are persian and have nothing to do with northwest iranic branche anymore
dataman121 2 years ago
Well the Parthians were sure as hell not a Kurdish people. Propagandists like yourself have fallen right into the hands of the Jews, but I'm sure you're cozy. I'm sure you bend over and take it with a smile on your face.
Gilakis and Mazandaranis openly speak their native tongues. Every Iranian is assimilated...that's why they are called Iranian.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
believe it or not we have sources that todays hewram lek and zaza kurds speak an parthian dialect because of the x losing in xw=w thats one point and because zazas use to be called daimlis and in parthia their was an province named dailam! so if you gilaks use to speak your own language so tell me what is I in gilaki?
dataman121 2 years ago
I'm not sure about that, but let say it was true. That is because people move around. The Parthians not just confined to North Eastern Iran and never allowed to migrate anywhere. They were the rulers of Iran for God's sake. Their tribes moved and migrated freely. There were even Scythian settlements in Northwestern Iran.
Have you ever heard of Gilaki? It's a Northwestern Iranian dialect and probably one of the most pure.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
Where is this Kurdistan that everyone is talking about? I see Turkey, Iraq and Iran...no Kurdistan.
You pan-retard Kurds can take a pen and draw your fake nation all you want on that map on yours in your small room, but that does not make it real you pathetic wastes of skin and bones.
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
Scythians were Blond like my mother :P they had nothing to do with gay persians muhaha:D
dataman121 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
You little scum again and again eh im tired. Listen Scum jan, Kurd is not a Kurdish Word! the stupid Assyrians and Babylonians called everyone Kurd from Zagros and mountain Regions! together with the Sumerians! Kurd is not a Kurdish Word at all! We have Gotten this name do u understand? finally by the Seljuqs! 1172! something like that! the name of Kurd is NOT Kurdish. Now Piss off.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
Again Fuck you! ow your own Government fucks you! not kurds. Scythians were not Parthians if u have a Donkey's brain just let me now!. You are GAY you Persians have 120 000 Transexual GAYS in IRan!. If we are Mongols You are Dark uglyyyyyy Elamites! go see ur Golf and Fuck off bitch!. OK We are Mongols but You are A Mixture between Mongol-Arab-Dravidian-African tfffffff piss offffff. PArthians are KURDS Everything is KURDISH
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
Parthians are Kurds????
Shut the fuck up again.
Noboday said that they were Kurds.
They even fought against the Medes.
And the Medes never said that they were kurds.
Just because of that word Pahlawan.
Khar we have so many heros known as Pahlwans in Iran.
You gay kurds never had Pahlawans,
Who the fuck is your hero?
EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
ae you jsut crazy? man you are jsut soo stupid that i have to laugh since tommorow haha:D Man MEDES AND PARTHIANS NEVER MET EACH OTHER.
because parthians were the Descendants of Medes who just became a bit Scthian blood:D
Medes lived around 2000 b.c. and parthians around 300 b.c. so how did they fought against each other? oh let me guess they had a time mashine!:D haha
dataman121 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
u r Khar TFFFFFFFFFFF, i tried to respect stupid people like u but it does not work! Come and lickkkkkk allllllllllllll Kurdish pussies! TF again bisharaf . U stupid little Shitttttttt Persian has no W Fuck off u scum Pahlawan is Kurdish and Persian has been more Turko-Arabian now!.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
Kurdistan before was the land of Hurrians! who were a white People! and not indo-europian but Caucasians! when Kurds came they got assimilated! and the nummber of Kurds was much higher than them! I dont beleive that these white Kurds are Real Kurds but they can be Hurrians or Greeks who got Assimilated in Kurdistan! We have even Turkish tribes who got Assimilated! But we are never that mixed as the rest of Iranians!
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
YES Greeks also built many cities in Kurdistan! and they called it Media! the late Proof: 1 year ago a Helenic Greek mummy was found in Raniye Region of Slemany Province of South Kurdistan!. The Texts of the grave was in Greek and it said she was burried in land of Media. Kurdish Clothes are Symbol of Iranism Aryanism! they are the best and nicest Symbol of the east Indo-Europians! lol and your Shirin Abadi invited kurdish Kamkars to sing and present Iran! lolllll in EU. lolllllllllll
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
not just in urmia ever heared about the karduckis from badinan and botan.
dataman121 2 years ago
A typical thing for Dravidianism is the Real Real Black hair! afew Persians have a very very black hair and darker skinn as the Baluches. And Again Schytians came from Caucasus to Kurdistan! and tuled Kurdistan more than 28 years! they settled around Urmia! later they became a part of Kurds and called themselves Matienes! in Kurdistan. Today the Shkaki Kurds who speak Kurmanji are the same as these Scythians(matienes) and when Kurds captured Assyria they used the Scythian soldiers.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
the Region of Parthia has Kurdish Population NOW! just go and look Khorasani Kurdistan! the Kurds from this Area is Kurmanji Speaking Kurds who were forced to go to this Area from Azerbaijan!. Parthia is Kurdish and Kurdistani! Parthian=Pahlawani in Kurdish, which means language of Heroes! Pahlawan=Parthian=Hero! even Sharafxan Says that!.
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
again a stupid boy?:) did you read what i öpost?:D i gaved oyour persian brains so much sources that parthians were no Persian!! they hated persians and were mithra people no zoroastrians
dataman121 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
Afew Kurds are white! in northern parts of Kurdistan and we Still have afew white kurds too in southern parts of Kurdistan. The Dances and Culture are Indo-Europian and the same as Bulgarian serbian Bosnian Albanian....etc! they are Far far away from arabic even though arabs are Neighours of Kurdistan!. Persian Culture Dances and Clothes are the same As Arabic! Arabic belly dance is ur main dance you dont have any hand-holding Dances! and the Persians of South can be Everything but NOT Arian.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
let me Guess! PEople say Persians of Tehran and North Iran are very close to Armenians!(Caucasians)! this is according DNA too! in Northern Iran there were Caucasian peoples! who got Turkified,Persianized...... for example Azeris! who are an Irano-Caucasian nation by blood! and their culture is still Caucasian as Georgian. Middle Persian had W suddenly the W got changed to B or V(Turkish). Khuzi (Elamite) became a Persian Dialect! this and Turkish language destroyed Persian.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
Look at these Kurdish idiots calling us darvadians while in reality kurds are the only ones reffered to as degenerate gypsies of the middle-east, and in the apparently in the Iranic family.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
you know that a big part of gypsis fled to persia when the mongols attacked india;) and you realy want to tell me kurds look more dravidian then persian?? :D haha you stupid fool 50% of kurds and Medes are hurrian hethithe and greek mixed people;) even a city of kurds is named after a greek comandand from alexandrias time.I talk about bedlis(turkish bitlis)
dataman121 2 years ago
FireOfMedia is just mad that her fake country does not and will never exist..
It's ok, keep on sucking the American and Jewish cocks and maybe they'll grant your pathetic wish one day. :(
99999999988888888 2 years ago
even sucking jewish dick is better then be fucked by baba ahmedi necat you incest boys;=)
dataman121 2 years ago
So...you admit you suck Jewish dick? Hahahaha
Better add Turkish and Arab on that list.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
you know farsi has only 60% arian words in his language and 40% arabic turkic words so who sucked turkish and arabic dicks now?:) HAHAHA
dataman121 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
turkish penis is no kurdish penis i bet the big penises of iran are kurdish ones :D haha even girls here they kurds have the biggest.you want to see kurdish dicks? whatch this ;)
watch?v=nmf4do2IS4Y
dataman121 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up.
All Turkish words are Scythian words(Iranian)
Turks don't speak Mongolian but they came from there.
EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
loool again such a stupid comment from a persian dickhead haha:D 60% of turkish words are mongolian and you idiot no one counted the iranic words in turkish as turkish.we talk about 40% real arabic turkic words thats prooven;) kurdish kurmanji is the puurest iranic language today is prooven too it has 85% real iranic words whil sorani has 80% zazaki 75% persian just has 60%:D
dataman121 2 years ago
There are no Turks.
Turks were Mongolians.
Do the Turkish people in Turkey look like Mongolians?
Of course not, they are simply Eastren Romans.
Hell, even the Uzbeks are not Mongloians.
Keep sucking Eastren Roman dick you Kurds.
EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
You still don't deny sucking Jewish, American, Turkish and Arab dick...is it a hobby for you or what?
Who told you those percentages? Your father before he was raped by a Turk, pissed on by an Arab and then killed by an Assyrian? :(
99999999988888888 2 years ago
jsut another stupid comment from a digless persian come on go one you mongol arabic mixed bastards you look most northindian people no way like scythians:D
dataman121 2 years ago
We never claim they were Persian, we claim they were all Iranian peoples. It's idiots like you who believe every Iranian is automatically Persian. Suck a cock like you usually do you retarded mule. I am Gilaki and I would rather aid my Persian brothers than you fake Kurds.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
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We never claim they were Persian, we claim they were all Iranian peoples. It's idiots like you who believe every Iranian is automatically Persian. Suck a cock like you usually do you retarded mule. I am Gilaki and I would rather aid my Persian brothers than you fake Kurds.
99999999988888888 2 years ago
They spring from the same roots. You fucking retard. Their are Mithraic temples in IRAN. Kings were named after Mithra. Mithridates and the sorts.
AryaMithra 2 years ago
man are you just fudcked up? springing from same root dont mean to be the same? are kurds and persians the same you idiot? do kurds and persian like each other even with related roots? no.i have sources that mithra people hated zoroastrians go ask your gay dad maybe he knows more fact is historians are exactly thinking like me;) and no real historican clame that medians parthians skythians were Persian how should they if persian is the youngest part of iranic languages:D
dataman121 2 years ago
Ezdanism is just a MIXTURE BETWEEN MITRAYISM AND zoroastrism. Iraqi kurds? most of them have iranic blood and afew are very very white especially those in nolrthern Area who were in fact white Hurrians, and afew were Assyrians who got Kurdified, and the majority of so called irqaqi kurds came from iran! jaf,zangana... tribes all came from iran.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
it is not a mixture my dear friend it is more Mithra cult with some influennce from zoroastriasim
dataman121 2 years ago
The Parthians were actually half Persians and half Scythians. Hell even the Scythians were ancient Iranian people. The Parthians just like the Sassanids always claimed that their grandfather was Artaxerxes II king of Persia.
Who the fuck said that the Parthians were kurds???????
Hell even the Medes claimed themselves as the true Iranians and the first group of Iranian people the first Iranian empire .
Go fuck your gay Kurdish History somewhere else.
EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
Iranic you son of a bitch just means arian::D not persian so its normal that they claimed to be iranian.Kurdish is iranic too but not persian just like parthian median and skythian all where from the north branche of iiranic languages while dravidian mixed persian is from south branche south like india :D
dataman121 2 years ago
The people of the real Persia were mixed Arian and Dravidian so plz dont denny that thanks! there are 1000000000 proofs! until now real real persians look indic. the name of the Elamite dravidian language was Khuzi! in Persian! Now Khuzi has been a Pure Dialect of Persian which is called Farsiye Khuzi. how did it happen? while khuzi was Dravidian of Elam and Persian indo-europian?
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
OOO god, here we have this dumb fucking ugly bitch barking again. Listen you dumb smelly mountain goat fucking dipshit. You haven't even proven that you're decendants of Medes yet, so why don't you just take things slow and stop barking so much garbage out of your ass!
persiandudeee 2 years ago
parthians didn´t spoked a middel persians dialect they spoked a northwestiranian dialect which is just a bit relatedt to persian RELATED don´t means the same;)
source Wikipedia.
xonomically, Parthian belongs to the Northwestern Iranian language group, while its close relative, Middle Persian, belongs to the Southwestern Iranian language group.
Kurds speak northwestiranic just like parthians;) so who is related to them?
dataman121 2 years ago
bro i know but not just persian south kurdish people from elam too but in fact it is jsut 10% of kurdish population who look like persians the rest is mixed with other people
dataman121 2 years ago
Fireofmedia2 just youtube Shiraz see what shirazi people look like.
what indic blood?
You are a clueless iraqi
EricTyce 2 years ago
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Axcendar 2 years ago
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EricTyce ok at least sometimes these kindes of kurds can be found! but the number of the dark indic dravidian persians are much higher have you seen Shiraz? the persians around the sea?
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
IRAN JAVIDAN!!!!!!!!
Mithradatesi 2 years ago 2
VERY nice video, great job. I like the last part when the statues were dancing with the music! LOL I see a lot of hate remarks here! WOW, peace brothers we are all "the same shit" called HUMANS! LOL PEACE NOT HATE.
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
Justice for HUNGARY/NAGY MAGYARORSZAG!
JUSTICE FOR YAZI/JASZOK!
0killdemjinn 3 years ago
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Yes of course I dont mean the Iranic Persians! but I have seen Persians with very Dark lips and hair! I mean Dravidian Blood! not even Semitic!. I can show you!.+Look at Arash+Afshin for example! they are never Iranic at all! where did All those Dark Elamites go? in southern Iran? They became Persians!.
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
Fireofmedia2 IS an iraqi arab kurd, mixture of sumerian elamite arabian and assyrians,
look at these iraqi kurds:
watch?v=bQz7o0zCnfA&feature=related
watch?v=CZ6vTcFoo5M&NR=1
watch?v=uMu-wO1wwmI&feature=related
all 100% pishmarga kurds with raven coloured lips, they make arash look russian.
lol