How We Staged the Morristown UFO Hoax, Part 2: The Launches

[Shuhac]

I still think they were alien spacecraft.

[samdogdamndog2]

Good thing they didn't do this out west where we have fire seasons...an admission like this would have them locked up.

[samdogdamndog2]

Yup. This is about right. Most UFO's are either guys having a prank like this or a little AfterEffects video work. The rest are airplanes and optical illusions or natural phenomena. I love these guys.

[GsBBoyDan]

@samdogdamndog2 Sadly, that's true. I've spent 8 years studying UFOS, have a 3 foot stack of books, and have made many hoaxes myself that even university professors couldn't figure out. When I first started, I believe almost every single story and photos was real. Over time I came to the conclusion you stated above. I am still very open, and think it's likely that there are some real ones, but it's like 1% of reports if there are.

[paleopeneyes]

Also strange is the way in which the filmmakers felt the need to EDIT in the part where they act shocked by what they're seeing. A more believable approach would have been to begin that segment unedited, so when later releasing the FULL UNEDITED version of your video people would see the seamless part of the flare lighting leading to the "shocked" footage.

[paleopeneyes]

Would have been cool if you put the phone on speaker when you called the news station. Would have added to your credibility. Also, i find it interesting that the lights get more red and bright as the video cuts to the "fake" part, where they're pretending to be shocked. You would think that the higher the flares got, the LESS red they would look, not the opposite. That said, I must concede that this is currently the most likely explanation for the phenomenon, given what we know.

[bigvandave]

nothing like a good con!

[HueyTheDoctor87]

The skeptics society are a bunch of arrogant fuckwits who don't realize their beliefs have become nothing more than another religious faith. Idiots.

[TheSkepticUn]

@HueyTheDoctor87 Somebody sounds like they are having a hissy fit...

[nsofast]

@HueyTheDoctor87 We ask for proof of everything.That is the opposite of faith my friend. If you might get a bit further by calling us dogmatic but not much.

[TheChuchulainn]

@nsofast I'm sorry but not all UFO sightings can be explained by terrestrial phenomena. Skeptics are just as dogmatic as religulous fucktards.

[nsofast]

@TheChuchulainn We are a bit dogmatic when it comes to idle speculation. A few weird lights in the sky and you guys wanna start speculating about little green men. You wanna say alien life here on earth? You need to show me the actual aliens not some silly story about how they are sooooo elusive.

[TheRealMrPresident]

@mattghtpa @blackadderthe4 Some are at a level beyond our comprehension, others are at a level beyond THEIR comprehension again... Some belong in the same physical domain as us, some are multdimensional beeings, some are good for us and want to help us, some are NOT good for us and some are neutral. Many of them know as little about our creator as we do. Common for them all, is the fact that they are gathering here for the events soon to come upon earth... good or bad, or both...?

[TheRealMrPresident]

Juveniles...

[pcuimac]

Is there intelligent live in America? Maybe some. Maybe not.

[mattghtpa]

That was a well done hoax for the funds they had. The flares held together well to form the much reported triangular shape with unusual lights.

Well done at simulating, re-enactment, facsimile, and creating an illusion.

That's why, realistically, 99% of all reports are hoaxes, misidentifications, the moon, planets, jets, planes, birds, and weather anomalies.

But there is a 1% that is none of those. Some have 3 independently corroborating sources; ground and air radar with visual.

[blackadderthe4]

@mattghtpa

'Another problem for radar is that many things will produce an echo. Birds, insects, rain, and other natural objects can produce echoes. Even the radar system itself can produce phantom targets. Simple electronic noise in the transmitter/receiver can be displayed on the screen as a false target. Additionally, the radio waves can be affected as they leave the antenna. The radio wave can be "bent" by the earth’s atmosphere (a process called Refraction)'

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 I wouldn't dispute that radar can error and I would say that fits easily in the 99% of non-events, however, there are numerous documented incidents where radar tracked objects that were visually confirmed as non- terrestrial craft with bizarre structure or typical UFO descriptions; saucer, cigar, or triangular shape, demonstrating flight characteristics far beyond known capabilities.

Whether people want to "believe" or not, the facts and data speak for itself.

[blackadderthe4]

@mattghtpa

So what are these UFOs actually doing? They seem to be just flying billions of miles across the universe just to make patterns in crops? What have they actually achieved?

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 UFOs aren't what I'm curious about; many things are unidentifiable from a distance. It's the occupants I wonder about and that's a good question isn't it, why are they here, what are they doing, and what do they want?

Do you suppose when primitive tribes see us they think "Wow...those strangers walked or canoed those many miles just to see us, why?" My thoughts are is that the Universe is 14byo which leaves billions of years for civilizations to flourish in our galaxy.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 In that time, even with .5c, the Milky Way could be pretty much mapped out in a few million yrs, but I don't think civilizations a million or a billion yrs old are still using propulsion as we understand it. I think they would be able to traverse intergalactic or interstellar like we travel from continent to continent. So Earth would have been cataloged as just one planet of likely of millions that are inhabited with diverse flora and fauna.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 Crop circles seem more fake and sensationalism than anything else.

As for what have they achieved, well what do humans achieve by studying life on our planet? Why do we capture animals, study them, take tissue samples, tag them, and watch their behavior? I think we do it for many things, but mostly just because we are curious. And I would think curiosity is a universal trait.

So funny guy amcnea comment may be right, it’s sort of a galactic knowledge program, seems plausible.

[blackadderthe4]

@mattghtpa

'study them, take tissue samples' well these aliens can't be clever judging by the amount of people who have been abducted! Surely a couple of samples are only needed for being who can fly billions of miles? And anyhow WHAT is the solid evidence of their existence? None! Out of all the reported visits! And just saying they are held at Area 51 is no answer at all, because the 'truth would be out'.And people have made claims which do not stand up to examination!

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 Biologist take tissue samples indefinitely. That’s how they keep track of living systems. It’s certain that’s how it’s done with all science, terrestrial or not.

"fly billions of miles" You keep stating this, do you have some detailed information concerning the origin and propulsion, and technology of ET?

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 "WHAT is the solid evidence of their existence? None!" I don't personally, but Earth and humans exist, so maybe out trillions of planets don't you think there are others inhabited, some a lot longer than ours?

I'm not up on Area 51 lore.

"because the 'truth would be out'" Well we're talking about it, so something got out.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 "And people have made claims which do not stand up to examination!" What claims, what people, who examined them, what're there credetials, what are the facts?

If you want any information about things I stated I will provide information and discuss it, but it’s all based on research of others, kind of like when biologist collect data and we learn from that. So if you're going to throw out random accusations unless you have something to discuss otherwise it baseless propaganda.

[blackadderthe4]

@mattghtpa

“that the truth about UFOs is quite simple: it is rooted in human misperception, human self-delusion, human tendency to delude others. In other words, UFOs are a terrestrial phenomenon, not an extraterrestrial one”

“experienced researchers in the existence of a different sort of UFO cover-up, operated by UFO believers themselves who regularly fail to acknowledge inconvenient evidence which undermines their most cherished cases”

w w w .ianridpath.c o m/ufo/ufoindex.h t m

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 COMETA Report:  concluded that about 5% of the UFO cases they studied were utterly inexplicable and the best hypothesis to explain them was the ET hypothesis.

GEPAN / SEPRA / GEIPAN: "In 60% of the cases reported here, the description of this phenomenon is apparently one of a flying machine whose origin, modes of lifting and/or propulsion are totally outside our knowledge."

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 Sturrock Panel: UFO sightings have been accompanied by unexplained physical evidence that deserves serious scientific study, an international panel of scientists has concluded.

AIAA UFO Subcommittee, Astronautics and Aeronautics: Concluded that the controversy cannot be resolved without further study in a quantitative scientific manner and that it deserves the attention of the engineering and scientific community.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 John E. Mack, M.D., professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School: concluded that this was a phenomenon which was 'real' and that he did not believe that alien abductions were simply hoaxes, delusions and hallucinations.

[blackadderthe4]

@mattghtpa

But he is in the minority!

watch?v=A85CRsmPaOM

watch?v=qfRWYVem4ak

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 A More Parsimonious Explanation for UFO Abduction: by Caroline McLeod, Barbara Corbisier, and John E. Mack. (Published in Psychological Inquiry, An International Journal of Peer Commentary and Review, Vol. 7 No. 2, 1996)

"We present evidence that abduction experiences cannot be readily explained by constructs such as hypnotic elaboration, masochism, and fantasy proneness. Abduction accounts cannot be dismissed as hypnotic elaboration because approximately 30% of..." cont.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 cont."...these accounts are obtained without hypnosis. Finally, there is evidence that individuals reporting abduction experiences are not more hypnotizable or fantasy prone than the general population."

Being a minority do not change facts and data.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 Continuing from the exact same quote: " Mack described the investigation as "Kafkaesque": He never quite knew the status of the ongoing investigation, and the nature of his critics' complaints shifted frequently, as most of their accusations against him proved baseless when closely scrutinized."

[blackadderthe4]

@mattghtpa

It matters not! Because the techniques used, mainly so called hypnosis, implants the 'memories', False Memory Syndrome, in the subject! Or the interview methods are flawed, as evidence from mis-carriages of justice have proved! For instance when people make false 'confessions'.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 "It matters not" if you choose to ignore the evidence. You are entitled to your opinion, but an ad hominem argument is intellectually pointless.

I'll stick with the facts in this matter.

[blackadderthe4]

@mattghtpa

'I'll stick with the facts in this matter' which don't add up to a row of beans! Except it is one giant scam, so some people can make vast amounts of money! Where is ONE piece of solid evidence? Well there isn't any! If it looks like a scam, sounds like a scam, then it is a scam!

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 "Harvard then issued a statement stating that the Dean had "reaffirmed Dr. Mack's academic freedom to study what he wishes and to state his opinions without impediment," concluding "Dr. Mack remains a member in good standing of the Harvard Faculty of Medicine." (Mack was censured for some methodological errors.)"

en.wikipedia.o rg/wiki/John_Edward_Mack

The Harvard review board disagrees with your quote mined assessment and opinion.

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 Or their intentions are beyond our understanding. Things are not what we think they are. How would we comprehend an intelligence 1000s, millions, or even billions of yrs more evolved and advanced. Maybe they’re more than one civilization studying us. Drake Equation estimates 3000+ thriving advanced civilizations, I suspect it’s far more. But it’s all guessing, isn’t it?

[mattghtpa]

@blackadderthe4 But from all the research on the subject, I feel certain that it’s a well known by those that control the reins of power on Earth and that it probably angers and terrifies them they can do nothing about our visitors. However, they can’t reveal this because it would delegitimize them and humanity is still consumed by superstition, supernatural, and mysticism a.k.a. religion which foster fear of the unknown and if displaced from our geocentric position chaos would explode.

[FERROUSBOWLER]

this was a diversion to hide the REAL ufo's landing on the whitehouse lawn and implanting our president with happy finger puppets. we must all bow to the happy fingerpuppets.

[newmac]

Amazing video evidence for the bipedal semi intelligent creatures responsible for the strange lights... ;-) A flying saucer and a good time; for just $1.99.....

[TheHickstead]

HOLY CRAP! are those UFOs???? LOL :D jkk

[soulweaponry]

Lame. Didn't even show people's reactions and UFO reports. That was the whole point

[TheHickstead]

@soulweaponry dude!! see part 3!

[soulweaponry]

@TheHickstead ahhhh!! There's a part 3? I looked and couldnt find it

[TheHickstead]

@soulweaponry just uploaded

[lesliekwan80]

@soulweaponry No, that wasn't the whole point. The whole point was to prove that THEY were the ones responsible for the UFO sightings. THAT'S the point of making this video.