Let me reach out to my religious brothers and sisters on this one.
If you think forcing people to obey God is turning them into Christians, it's not. God doesn't care how much you obey him when that's the law of the land.
I think Obama pretty much cracked it on this one. It is not the job of politicians or the constitution to dress up the civil union. That is more of a social aspect that they are not in control over
@valgez1 Did they get to choose to have straight parents then? I highly doubt it, and it isn't any more logical. No free choice = if they only had one option ;)
In history they also had wars and killed people in cold blood. That doesn't justify it in today's society. Humans are animals, in case you didn't know. You have NO right to judge for others, do you? What you act is utterly cruel.
A recent study by the NLLFS proves lesbian mothers are just as capable or even better as parents.
@xDeathCall "A recent study by the NLLFS proves lesbian mothers are just as capable or even better as parents"
What? You resorted again to talking crap ??? :-))) I wanna see the size of the sample used, the assumptions, the method used, I wanna know whether sufficient time was given to evaluate all possible outcomes!!! You know what? You are stupid, brainless twat! As simple as that! Show me that research, idiot, or STFU, :-)))))
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
I will take what God says over what ANY man thinks. God says it is it is unnatural for a woman to be with a woman and a man with a man. (homosexuality). Said it was unseemly. If a person was born as a homosexual it would not be unnatural.
@anthonyehooker That's perfectly fine as long as you don't infiltrate in other people's personal lives if they don't wish for it ;)
Personally I think it's weird that god created a problem and has a problem with this problem, and thus he punishes humans for something he created... And the meaning of this text is also up to people's interpretation ;O
@xDeathCall God did not create the problem. man rebelled against God and created the problem. I don't care how many experts say people are born as a homosexual. God is the final authority and He says it is sin and an abomination. He would not punish someone for something they could not help.
@anthonyehooker Sir, Have you ever looked at a girl and fantasized about her?
Have you ever fapped in your life? Then why have you not gouged out your eyes or cut off your hand? I don't care what you say. god is the final authority and he says it is a sin and an abomination. he would not punish someone for something they could not help.
Romans 1:26-28 "26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. {Cont}
There is no science to the homosexual agenda. It is all endorsed opinion by homosexuals and sympathizers of homosexuals. One cannot reason with them because reason is not what they want. The science and scientist that they claim are all false. The very act of ejaculating sperm is scientifically proven as a means to express sperm up and into the uterus/cervix for impregnating the female egg. Sperm only reacts with ovum, that is its only purpose. Now that is science!! If a fella is shooting sperm
What happened to America, the one time spiritual beacon for the rest of the world? We've lost our way. What was right is now wrong, and what was wrong is now touted as right. Tolerance is the code word for wickedness. Righteousness is now a scourge in this land. I guess the Christians in America have all died out and left the Godless in charge. It is just a matter of time before demise is upon us and there will be gnashing of teeth.
So too, then, must being born a homosexual is as natural as being born White. In other words, being born White, or any other skin pigmentation, is the same as a male being born to have anal and oral sex with another male?
fuck me this sensiblehuman geezer's a right cunt. What a fucking dull lecture. Going on about how unnatural it is to be gay. (bring it on anyone else out there, I'm waiting,) Sensiblehuman is so fucking dull I find it hard to even comment - but fear not my little cherrybomb readers, I'll not deprive you for as long as there are cunts out there spouting out this filthy shit then I will make comments. Hurrah for fear of fear.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo I just think it's to vague to claim an animal can be in a relationship with you. It may be possible, but can you ascertain it, without talking on behalf of the dog? I'd have to see your dog typing out his/her feelings towards you here... (s)he could show that
(s)he understands. And that way I would know what he/she's thinking.
I suggest you take caution when your engaging in s*x with animals though, it's still against the law...
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Then again, is it an instinct of a dog to like it's boss? Do dogs understand the feeling we humans call 'love'? Because humans can tell you what they think, a dog can't fully understand the concept of human love, can (s)he? I mean, some dogs hump everything that they see...
That's what I'm wondering. But, as long as your dog isn't harmed (<that's the whole point of it), it's okay, I guess. But how can you know that he's concenting, or what (s)he thinks?
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Regarding pedophilia: Exactly, theres nothing wrong with it, as long as they don't act on it. Regarding a dog: fact remains that it is another animal species, and we CAN misread body language to our likes, even in humans. There's so many ways we can interpret things. Lastly, I'd like you to stop filling in the blanks for me, which points out why language is necessary. Raping is any sexual intercourse that isn't approved by the person it's done to.
"we CAN misread body language to our likes, even in humans."←So... humans+human and animal+human relationships should be illegal because of the existence of the possibility that some one may do a mistake when evaluating consent?
Is that your argument or what is that you believe?
Do you have a problem with me and my dog lover having a relationship?
We only have consensual sex and I don't make any mistakes evaluating consent.
If it were such a hormonal imbalance that clinicians could detect at birth that would assign adult sexual behavior to that infant, then that info would be available to the parents to plan for the child in the same way that clinicians use imaging to inform the parents whether the developing child is a boy or girl. Thus, quit repeating nonsense that has no basis - there is no effeminate or hormonal deficit or overproduction that would make crave a penis in his orifices. Precocious puberty refers
Masculinity and femininity are cultural behaviors. There is no gene for little girls wearing clothe shaken into the form of what we call dresses. Homosexual men may exaggerate mannerisms that they perceive to be effeminate. If real women as a whole walked, talked, gestured in the way that these fellas do when they attempt to imitate a female, we would likely consider that woman to be acting strange, even pretentious. Thus, there is no effeminate brain that a male child can develop in utero. If
If not for that publicly announced false analogy by White homosexuals, it is unlikely that I would have opined on this matter in the manner and to the degree that I've opined.
I am not a hater of the person nor do I wish any ill upon the person. To be frank, I love the person as much as anyone else. But it is disturbing when false claims are made comparing a volitional and gratifying sex act to skin color resulting from ancestral lineage (being gay is NOT like being Black nor any other skin pigment). If not for that publicly announced false analogy by White homosexuals, it is unlikely that I would have opined on this matter in the manner and to the degree that I've o
"gratifying sex act to skin color"←Only am idiot would compare that, most people compares homosexuality (the sexual inclination) to skin color because are things that you can't chose to change, are things that happens out of your control. Are things that can happen at birth and may make the person homosexual at puberty.
When one makes that claim (being a homosexual is equivalent to being Black or Red or White or Yellow or Brown) it gives off the impression that it randomly happened like being born deaf, mute, or missing a limb. Unless defective, a heart, lungs, a liver, and kidneys function the same way and towards the same purpose in all humans. The same is true of testicles and sperm in all men (likely at one time during the fella's life). Although I do not endorse homosexuality, I am not a hater of the pers
"being a homosexual is equivalent to being Black"←Gays born from hormonal defect during pregnancy are born with a feminine brain and that makes them very likely to be gay in the future. And males born with the gay gene also are likely to be gay in the future after they are born.
Homosexuality may not be like skin color which is set from birth, but homosexuals can have have a high chance that they became like that because of gene and hormonal factors.
There is nothing natural about sperm-makers copulating between themselves nor ova-makers doing whatever they do sexually between themselves. Although it may be physically pleasurable, that does not mean that it was intended that way by design. Are all sexually pleasurable interactions intended by design? If one decides to engage in homosexuality, then accept it is an acquired taste and not the result of some innate, congenital and involuntary genetic programming. When one makes that claim (bein
"They want to be seen as normal in spite of this behavior being abnorma"←I agree, they should not do that, that would be a lie.
"There is nothing natural about sperm-makers copulating between themselves"←100% incorrect, anything that exists in the universe part of nature and so it is natural.
"Although it may be physically pleasurable, that does not mean that it was intended that way by design."←Actually, mammals are biologically designed to see sexual pleasure.
"They want to be seen as normal in spite of this behavior being abnorma"←I agree, they should not do that, that would be a lie.
"There is nothing natural about sperm-makers copulating between themselves"←100% incorrect, anything that exists in the universe part of nature and so it is natural.
"Although it may be physically pleasurable, that does not mean that it was intended that way by design."←Actually, mammals are biologically designed to see sexual pleasure.
Strength in numbers, I guess. Even certain medical and so-called scientific societies have succumbed to their coercion to ENDORSE that behavior in spite of the glaring conflict between homosexuality and a two sex species. Homosexual dogmatists have even planted the idea of homosexuality in the minds of children - we now have homosexual boys and girls. Animals have been labeled homosexuals. Even Biblical staples have been charged as being pro-homosexual. Lies, all lies!
The reproductive and physiologic components lead to a conclusion that is contradictory to the mentality of the individual - cognitive dissonance! The Black American has been accosted by these folks for not being behind this madness. These folks know that their behavior and sexual ideology is bankrupt, but have gone about trying to pull in support from blank minds in order to say, "see, all these groups and people agree, with us. Thus, if you do not agree, then you are ignorant." Strength in nu
Although homosexuals come in a variety of tints and hues, I believe that it is safe to say that the universal push for homosexuality, like feminism, is a Western world effort. This is not to say that all Westerners are supportive of homosexuality, just that those that place it on a national platform are Western. They want to be seen as normal in spite of this behavior being abnormal. No homosexual is the product of homosexual mating. The reproductive and physiologic components lead to a conclus
Although homosexuals come in a variety of tints and hues, I believe that it is safe to say that the universal push for homosexuality, like feminism, is a Western world effort. This is not to say that all Westerners are supportive of homosexuality, just that those that place it on a national platform are Western. They want this behavior to be seen as normal, albeit abnormal. No homosexual is the product of homosexual mating. The sex and reproductive physiology is consistent with the anatomy, how
"Beastiality is something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from two adults loving one another!"←You are misinformed or just making assumptions.
I'm a zoosexual, I love my ADULT dog as a husband/boyfriend, love him the same way humans loves other humans. There is no different between my relationship with him other than he is a mammal of a different species.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo The difference is that you love an animal other than a human. Humans are humans. Dogs are dogs. Homosexuals still remain human, unlike your dog 'boyfriend'. This is different beyond comparasion.
Here's the big difference between homosexuality and beastiality & pedophilia: consent and relationship. Kids don't (fully) understand the concept of it. And can you be ABSOLUTELY certain that your dog is concenting? Did he tell you? Can you be a 100% sure? How?
Humans are animals they are mammals. Dogs are animals they are mammals.
Human homosexuals are relationships between mammals, same as zoosexual relationships between mammals.
"Can you be a 100% sure?"←Not even humans can get 100% certainty when they have sex with humans. I have a certainty that is between 70% and 90%
PS: Pedophilia is not a synonym of sex with children, you are using that word in the wrong way. Would you use heterosexuality as a synonym of sex with humans?
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo What's your point again? Of course we're all animals. But we're also a different species from other mammals. I don't care if you are a zoosexual or whatever, as long as you don't harm anyone with it. And since you cant ASK a dog if he likes it or wants it, you cant say you're not raping it. The communication simply isnt enough to be certain of that, and so you're aparently all about interpretation. "Well, I think the dog likes it" isnt a good argument.
"And since you cant ASK a dog if he likes it or wants it"←You don't need to ask, it is obvious if the dog likes it (dog will express that with body language) or if the dog doesn't care (by lag of any body language) or if the dog dislike it (by expressing body language that means NO or STOP) I can say I'm not raping a dog because I don't have sex with them if they say NO.
Why you think is rape to get naked in 4 legs and let a male dog do what ever he wants with my body
"Well, I think the dog likes it" isnt a good argument."←There are scientific studies that proves dog language exists and the same studies translate that language to human language, we humans can know when a dog likes something, dislikes or is neutral to something thanks to empirical evidence or thanks to those studies.
Dogs consent to things they like, things they dislike they don't consent and things that are neutral they don't. This is an objective scientific fact.
Pedophilia is a sexual interest to children in my statement, dont interpret it otherwise. Children dont understand what a relationship truly means and thus you cant expect them to get involved in one. I never talked about sex with children in specific.
Heterosexuality would be an attraction to the opposite sex. Homosexuality is an attraction to the same sex. There you have your answer.
"Pedophilia is a sexual interest to children in my statement, dont interpret it otherwise." ←There is nothing wrong or harmful with having a sexual interest to children. If a pedophile does not act on his urges on a real children, there will be nothing illegal about his orientation, and that kind of pedophiles do exist.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Your logic is a bit weird. We are all part of the bigger picture, humans and other animals. Just because we're all a bunch of atoms, doesnt mean we should have sex with all the other bunches of atoms in the whole wide multi- or universe.
Animals can't legally marry, they can't sing a legal contract, they don't understand what marriage is, it is a human invention and is too complex for an non-human animal to understand it.
PS: Is not a special right, if 2 humans of the opposite sex have the right to marry, then 2 humans of the same sex should also have the same right.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo PS: Is not a special right, if 2 humans of the opposite sex have the right to marry, then 2 humans of the same sex should also have the same right.
????? IN other words, if 2 people of opposite sex have the right to have baby NATURALLY, then 2 people of the same sex should also have the same right??? HAHAHA!!!!!
"N other words, if 2 people of opposite sex have the right to have baby NATURALLY, then 2 people of the same sex should also have the same right? HAHAHA!"←You aren't very bright aren't ya?
Some rights are exclusive from a sex because there is biological differences that makes one sex different from the other which gives them different rights based on those differences. For example, women have the right to give birth, biological men do not have that right for obvious reasons.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Sorry, I didn't get your idea, my response was an example of awkward logic with the purpose to show how awkward the original logic was. My idea is that homo couple shouldn't be given rights to adopt children. Can you elaborate on yours ?
@valgez1 On the contrary, results of research suggest that lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive home environments for children. The results of SOME studies even suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual couples.
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHA!!!! What a shit talker you, actually, are!!! Results of research suggest????? HAHA!!! What research? Sponsored and conducted by some fags? Sorry, but I absolutely have to admit that you are a complete idiot! (Or just having an agenda)
@valgez1 "There are a couple of concerns, for example that lesbians and gay men are mentally ill, that lesbians are less maternal than heterosexual women, and that lesbians' and gay men's relationships with their sexual partners leave little time for their relationships with their children. In general, research has failed to provide a basis for any of these concerns (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999; Tasker & Golombok, 1997)."
@valgez1 "First, homosexuality is not a psychological disorder (Conger, 1975). Although exposure to prejudice and discrimination based on sexual orientation may cause acute distress (Mays & Cochran, 2001; Meyer, 2003), there is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation per se impairs psychological functioning. Second, beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents have no empirical foundation (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002)."
@valgez1 "Lesbian and heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly in their approaches to child rearing (Patterson, 2000; Tasker, 1999). Gay and lesbian couples with children have been found to divide the work involved in childcare evenly, and to be satisfied with their relationships with their partners (Patterson, 2000, 2004a). The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers and gay fathers parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual parents"
@valgez1 "There is no scientific basis for concluding that lesbian mothers or gay fathers are unfit parents on the basis of their sexual orientation (Armesto, 2002; Patterson, 2000; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). On the contrary, results of research suggest that lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children."
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great! Mom with a dick and Dad with a pussy! Fabulous! Congratulations! You are no longer a Thinking Human, but a new breed: Mindless Googleman, research-picking demagogue. BTW, "There is no scientific basis for concluding that shitting while sitting is preferable over shitting while standing" - I've never seen a research proving that ! HAHAHAHA!!!!!! :-) Dude or Gal, how did you become so stupid ?
@valgez1 Great job avoiding anything in that text! You deserve a prize! You haven't even given any evidence-based arguments to begin with, so don't talk shet like you actually know anything about the subject. Maybe you should grow a brain and stop trolling, or get a life. Your sentence has no relevance to the subject in any way. Just so you know, it IS researchable, for example: start post on a forum and keep track of people's responds and their arguments. Of course there's alot more
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe that you expect me to address your bullshit in a serious manner :-))) You are talking about-evidence based arguments??? Provide me scientific proof that shitting while sitting is preferable over shitting while standing and singing Britney Spears songs. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! It's funny how all sorts of Youtube idiots like you talk "Science"
@xDeathCall Reply to WHAT ? To your BS ? So called "Proper" reply would mean being dragged into silly evidence-exchange argument, with you bringing all sorts of opinions and statements made by some politics and agenda influenced PhD assholes' :-). I don't need no silly idiot PhD to prove to me that Dad means "Man with a dick" and Mom means "Woman with a pussy". If you can't think for yourself and need some "Proof" for every single matter in this life, then good luck with that.
@xDeathCall Think real well what "Male" and "Female" mean - cause it looks like you're living in some homogeneous environment where there's no distinct line between male and female - I don't blame you - it's a by-product of the western society. And, since you cannot shape your opinions independently and need some "research", then turn to psychological essays on the role of Father and Mother figures in the family. Unless, of course, you are just pursuing your own agenda - then it's another story
@valgez1 Does it really matter if it's males or females, or whom are the parents? The're plenty of happy straight, gay and lesbian families out there, a male and female role model has been proven to not be a necessity. There really was no science needed for it though, it would've worked out anyway. Otherwise single-parent families would fail too. That's all. Maybe you should learn not to bash in your comments so they might be taken more seriously, like, you know, on an adult level?
@valgez1 And I can think for myself, which is why I get evidence to make my points more valid. My views are personal, but also have a scientific background mingled in it. If things are RESEARCHED and proven, they have better stance against a mere opinion of a single individual that can't back his arguments. And for your information: you're going up against a major group of people by stating this shet, in case you haven't noticed how large the gay community is. They just want equality.
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! You are definitely mentally broken if you need "Evidence" for why Dad is man with a dick and why Mom is a woman with a pussy. Really, makes no sense to go ahead with your stupidity. Bye!
@xDeathCall "My views are personal, but also have a scientific background mingled in it. If things are RESEARCHED and proven" - ???
Can't you be more of an idiot ?? :-)) If you claim to be a "Thinker", then evaluate the research assumptions, the methods used, the data used, the conclusions - and ALSO evaluate possible prejudices - and check how all that stands with the psychological science. Did you do that? Fuck, NO! You "think" with your arse, not brain, right? Typical Youtube demagogue :-)
@valgez1 Dear mister 'I know everything and I AM an arse', maybe instead of directly attacking, you could have a normal conversation. If you don't give arguments, you are at the psychological level of a young child - it would be a mere 'I'm right, you're wrong' dialogue. I COULD go through all of the research if I wanted to, however, it has been evaluated by many MANY experts, so I don't HAVE to run through all of it anymore. I doubt you will understand this much though... :)
@xDeathCall Well, looks like someone has to open your eyes, for you are unbelievably naive. 1) Experts? Aren't they the same ones that told you to buy stocks right before the market crashed? Is Alan Greenspan an expert? Yeah, He is! But he didn't believe house prices would have gone down, right? But they went down! I bet, in '06-'07 you would have advocate investing in CDOs, right? Of course, cause experts say so! Experts may even testify in court that smoking is not addictive. (cont...
@valgez1 Experts on science have proven something. House prices can raise and go down without real proof. Smoking has been proven to be addictive and you could do the research yourself. That's why it's called research.
Either way, without evidence, you won't get far in life these days. ;)
Maybe you should open your eyes yourself, because you're simply blinded by your own ignorance and arrogance. Life doesn't only revolve about you, sorry to crush your delusions. Anyways, I'm off :)
@xDeathCall "Smoking has been proven to be addictive and you could do the research yourself."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Didn't I tell you that you are mindless idiot? Yes, you are! I know by myself that smoking is addictive, but YOU NEED this to be researched? You are a total idiot, you did your best to convince me in that!
@xDeathCall So, who are those "Experts" and how are they different from other so called "Experts" , HA? Since you can make a single breathe without "Evidence" I'm gonna tell you that no serious research exists in the matter discussed. So, you either find me the research, or STFU and switch to smth else, cause your stupidity has no bounds, you are totally altered mentally, or... may be you are Homo ? That explains evrth HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@valgez1 In short, there's no evidence whatsover that Homo families may give "Just as" parenting and there's plenty of evidence based on psychology, on behavioral science and on such LITTLE and INSIGNIFICANT thing as 100,000s of years of human history based on hetero-sex parenting - the evidence that show that kids psychology raised in HOMO families will definitely be affected - and don't fucking argue with that ! BTW, Dr Goebbels was an "Expert" too! HAHAHA!!!!
@xDeathCall (cont...) Experts may tell you that your kid has a DDA disorder and you should give him a Ritalin which is, as experts say, harmless and not addictive. Experts may gather "Evidence" and sentence the innocent to death, some "Experts" may masterfully acquit the murderer. Even car fixing experts may have difficulty pinpointing the problem. Ever wondered what is the problem with those experts ??? :-))) Or you need an "Expert" opinion ? HAHAHA!!!!!
@xDeathCall Now, as I said, even car mechanics may have different opinions. Now, consider psychology and behavioral science? What is more complex - a car or human mind? Good :-) Now, when we're talking about child psychology being possibly affected by "Homo parenting" - you need to research it, right? Make a guess, what it would take to evaluate possible implications in such a way that the results are clearly defined and are statistically significant? You don't know, right? I will tell you...
@xDeathCall So, I am telling you: :-) such research would need HUGE sample of "Homo families" and kids with as homogeneous environment and population characteristics as possible, in order to provide "Fair" comparison, - then the "Sample" would have to be monitored for decades and even GENERATIONS. Even then, it would be very difficult to draw conclusions, because human mind is NOT a car, do you follow me ? :-)) Good! Trust me, such research has NEVER been conducted HAHAHA!!!!
@xDeathCall So, I suggest that you kick some "Expert" ass and start thinking independently, If you know what it is. Also, ask yourself HONESTLY: if you were a kid what Mom would you prefer - Feminine or Hairy? or what Dad - Masculine or With Big Tits? Now, imagine you have Fag parents, but all kids in a school have normal Mom and Dad - you would be very happy, right? There's an agreement among psychologists, that our behavioral pattern gets established at young age, you know...
@xDeathCall So, our subconscious gets programmed at very young age and defines our behavior later in life. "No Proof" that families should be hetero? Logical Fallacy :-) Forceful Interference in the natural state of things will surely have an effect - especially when it concerns human psychology. So, get back to your "Experts" and ask them what you should eat for breakfast and how many times per minute you should breathe - good luck with that, idiot HAHAHA!!!!!
@valgez1 Take zach walsh, he's a lot of a more tolerant guy than you probably are. He's still raised by lesbians. Just because your narrow-minded view can't comprehend it, doesn't make it any less true. So yeah, the effect on this guy: tolerance to other people! HOW AWFULL!! OH MY GOD!! And no, maybe not specifically for smoking being addictive, but definetly for the negative effects of it and for example for medical help to treat health issues.
@xDeathCall Fuck your zach walsh - give me fucking REAL SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH or Shut The Fuck Up ! :-)))))))))) Be responsible for the BS you base your arguments on - sorry, just have to say that
@valgez1 And maybe YOU should give some good argumens to explain your claims, but you probably can't find any. You cant even have a proper debate. Loser.
@xDeathCall Actually, I used to be very tolerant towards Gays, until I learned their ideas, - the reasoning of menstruating old lady is pretty solid and sane when compared to that of a homo - which is a weird, perversively sophisticated mix of Male and Female minds - no straight can understand what's going on there - but one thing is for sure - the only thing they care about is their rights - fucking egoistic perverts
@valgez1 Then you should take away some of your own rights as to be equal, but would you do that? Why are you forcing your view upon their personal lives; they're not your posession. Idea's? Their idea is wanting tolerance and acceptance, not bullying and hate crimes for simply being who they are. Being treated equally compared to other human beings and not be an outcast. There are normal human beings, just like you, me and everyone else. They're all individuals so dont stereotype.
@xDeathCall "Then you should take away some of your own rights as to be equal, but would you do that?"
HAHAHA!!!! You are TOTAL idiot, aren't you? If you take my rights away - who will REPRODUCE ? HAHA! What a fool you, in fact, are! My rights are not written in no law - my rights are NATURAL - pick a female, make children - leave together - as simple as that - natural thing based on basic instinct.
@valgez1 Each and every individual is different and will respond differently in different situations. You are just as different from other straights as you are from homosexuals. The common thing with you and straights, is simply the fact that you're straight. Straight people can understand homosexuals completely, you just aren't open to it. Think again.
@valgez1 Loving, caring, tolerant and accepting parents. They just have to be there when you need them. I could care less about their sex and their sexuality.
@xDeathCall Loving, caring, tolerant and accepting parents. They just have to be there when you need them. I could care less about their sex and their sexuality. - ????
YOU ARE A LIAR ! A FUCKING LIAR pushing your agenda at whatever possible/impossible legal/illegal means. 1) You mentioned some "research" 2) You accused me of not "Believing" in science. Now, show me that real serious research has actually been done - or get lost, little shit talker
@xDeathCall Ever seen a 5-years boy living with a single parent Mom, clinging to you (I assume you are a male), talking to you endlessly because of his deep unsatisfied desire to have a FATHER ??? He sees in you what he terribly lacks - a FATHER. Faggots are disguising as some pitiful sheep in wolves clothes with only one thing in mind - their agenda, at whatever cost, even at the cost of child's well-being
@valgez1 Not true, unfunded, based on prejudice. And here you're also saying single parent families are wrong. Kids don't always think like this, and if they have two fathers or mothers they wouldn't even know the difference. At most, they might ask why they don't have mom and a dad like most other kids.
Gay people can reproduce idiot. You just need a lesbian and a gay couple that both want kids: they are still firtile. You don't need people to be married in order to reproduce.
@valgez1 Oh, but if they have gay parents, they probably know other kids with gay parents too, so that might even take away the question. They dont suffer because of it, neither do they suffer in a single parent family.
Define natural? It's seen all over nature, thank you very much >.>
@xDeathCall OMG! How weird and wicked all this "Gays Rights" stuff is! In attempts to push your agenda you're ready to do anything: invent non-existing things, defy obvious matters (like children suffering in a single parent family), propose dangerous sociological experiments. Didn't I say that all this "Pro-Homo" stuff is a plague? No? So, I am telling you this right now!
@xDeathCall The importance of Father and Mother figure in a family has been known for ages and well documented in classic psychological essays (You love science, don't you?). If you defy that - then you're just manipulating. Now, Gays' rights to adopt kids would mean putting the kids in a different envo with the unpredictable results - that will affect them later in their adult life. In what way? The human mind is very complex, but what you suggest is an experiment, done against the will of kids
@xDeathCall By allowing the Gays adopt the kids you interfere with the kids' life, you deny their rights to have heterosexual parents. You deny boys' rights to want to be like Dad and you deny girls' rights to want to be like Mom. You deny their rights to live like all kids have lived for 100,000s years. You put them in a situation when they will soon realize that "Smth is wrong" - that will SURELY affect their psychology - it's a basic SCIENCE.
@xDeathCall So, what you actually propose is an inhuman, sadistic sociological-psychological experiment to actively and artificially amend the natural way of things, where the party involved has NO FREE CHOICE. - What for? For the sake of GROWN ADULTS' rights!!! It's called rights violation ! Those rotten Fags want to have their rights at the expense of smth else - ultimately disgusting!
@xDeathCall However, I have an excellent idea!!!! Let's confine all Homosexuals to the closed reservations where no "Closed Minded Hetero" will bother them ! Why not ? Great Idea!!! After all, "EVERYBODY REACTS DIFFRENETLY" !!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Use your own silly ideas to sort your shit out without affecting the others.
@valgez1 Ohh trust me, I know how smart kids can be. And I guess they're smarter than you are. You don't interfere with the kid's life, the kid's life is just as it should be, being loved and cared for. It doesn't learn as much hatred as from people like you, which is a good thing. Your studies have to be recent (at most 10 years old), research is renewed constantly. Classic psychological essays? Source? How about recent, updated studies? Like, from the last 10 years? There's plenty of
@valgez1 of studies done that show the exact opposite of what you claim. And there's even living proof of that. Kid's right to have heterosexual parents? A kid need's parents, the sex doesn't matter in the slightest. Be like dad? Be like mom? They can be moms and dads, no one is telling them not to. 100.000 years? Doubt it. Marriage for example had gay marriages in the ancient chinese culture. Something is wrong? What is wrong, they're loved and cared for, they live a normal happy life.
@valgez1 Natural way of things? I already pointed that out. I mean, there are even gay penguins hatching eggs together. It's not violation. What you do, is violating the rights of people by denying them the same rights as you have. What's your problem. You're affecting people negatively by hating on them. You have your opinion, dont force it into other people's lives. Gays have their own lives and you have nothing to do with them, so whats the big deal? They want to live their own lives
@valgez1 without you constantly bashing at them. They don't want anything to do with you. But are they denying you rights? No, they're not. You simply just hate them, that's all. But they didn't even do anyting to you, so why? What's your issue here?
Also, all the arguments you just posted are utter BS, so you'd better shut your mouth and get a life. Untill you get more tolerance, please, go live under your stone again.
@xDeathCall Nope, I don't SIMPLY hate them! Not in a thousand years! I am very tolerant and liberal person who values personal freedom above anything else - even above the law! I love all people and I love all animals :-) (truly) But most of all I love KIDS ( I have a daughter) And I see what Kids want and want kids want. And I am against anything that might harm them. And don't mention penguins - they are birds and you know nothing about their psychology. And don't question what is natural
@xDeathCall "Actually it does question what is natural. Either way, homosexuals and lesbians don't harm kids more than straight people do"
I am talking about the inevitable effect Homo parenting will have on kids - and IT WILL! There's no argument about the psychologists about the way the human psychology is influenced during the childhood and later on defines the behavioral patterns of an adult - you have no right to do any psychological experiment. And, Yeah, natural IS natural
@xDeathCall Natural means the way the things have been done during the whole history of humans. What you suggest is a forceful change. I suggest another thing: Put all fags in fag - reservation. Inhuman, you would say? Then I'd answer with your own words: EVERYONE REACTS DIFFERENTLY
@valgez1 OOHHH so that is what natural is. So we get to have slaves again (about a century ago), and women are property (like a century ago and still happening in some parts of the world. Oh.. but you wouldn't wish that to your daughter, I hope...), and homosexuality is normal again (Indians, Greek, Romans, Chinese history), blacks can be discriminated against (still happening), marriage is just for property... etc etc. You should read your history book again ;)
@xDeathCall "OOHHH so that is what natural is" ???
Natural is when Dude meets some Gal, then he inserts his boner into her juicy pussy, them the Gal gets pregnant, then she goes through the ordeal of labor, then they have a kid, then they have sleepless nights, then the Dude inserts his boner into her juicy pussy again. Got it, little fool? :-))) How old are you that you don't even know what is natural and what not? Ha ?
@valgez1 And then the kid says to his Dad: "Dad" , and then the kid says to his Mom: "Mom" and the the boy wants to be like his Dad or the girl wants to be like her Mom. What? It's not natural? Not? Then, may be it's artificial ?
@valgez1 It's all natural. Face it. The only reason they ask it, is because society hasn't accepted it and because homosexuals are a minority group, so it's less common. If the kids have seen other gay parents, which in some cases they have (homosexuals usually have homosexual friend and those people might have kids too), the question would probably not even surface ;)
It's a case of society accepting it, not the kid asking questions.
@xDeathCall You are wrong, it's not natural. Kids are not raised in the homosexual families. Don't invent the non-existing things, agreed? "If the kids have seen other gay parents" - without "IF" - there's no IF, the absolute majority is hetero. Besides, you are speculating on the possible outcomes - what for? For the sake of the adults' rights? Experiment? As I said MANY times - read classic psychological essays and not agenda influenced stuff. You are not even trying to be objective - no way
@xDeathCall I suggest send all the fags to the Fag-Reservation. 1) Everyone Reacts differently 2) If they see only Fags and don't see "Closed-Minded Heteros" - then their problems would probably not even surface. So, Yes! Send all Fags to the Reservation , away from the "Bad" Heteros
@xDeathCall "The only reason they ask it, is because society hasn't accepted it and because homosexuals are a minority group, so it's less common" - ?????
This is NOT the only reason , this is the VERY essence of the matter - the homos are the minority! - that's the way the things have always been - being a homo contradicts the very basic instinct - reproduction - it's a school level science, in case you don't know
@valgez1 Well the reproductional system still works, they can reproduce. Homo's have sex because of their natural instincts, they just don't fall in love with the same sex and thus don't make love to them. The essence of the matter doesn't revolve about this. Marriage isn't about reproducing... or do you want overpopulation and mass extinction? The earth is starting to get exploited to its maximum by humans to begin with. That's a higher level of school science ;)
@xDeathCall "Marriage isn't about reproducing... or do you want overpopulation and mass extinction?"
What? So, it's all about stopping overpopulation? :-))) Didn't take you much time to exchange your "Humanity" and care for the rights of homos to smth else, right?
@valgez1 Face the facts: homosexual couples can raise kids, straight people can raise kids, single parents can raise kids, interracial couples can raise kids, black couples can raise kids, white couples can raise kids and so the list goes on.
The essence is wether or not they can raise their kids into adulthood so that these kids can live their lives to the fullest, in the best possible way. Adopting kids serves that perpose too, for they have a better future. How can you not see this?
@xDeathCall "Adopting kids serves that perpose too, for they have a better future. How can you not see this?"
Adopting kids by hetero families serves purpose, yes! Adopting kids by homo families exposes kids to the inevitable psychological effect - how can you not see this? So, if you care for the kids, pat your own money for promoting their adoption by hetero families.
@xDeathCall "Face the facts: homosexual couples can raise kids, straight people can raise kids, single parents can raise kids, interracial couples can raise kids, black couples can raise kids, white couples can raise kids and so the list goes on"
YOU face the facts: it's all about being Mom and being Dad - you suggest smth that has never existed. Face it.
@xDeathCall Face it: Animals can raise human kids - it's natural, there've been registered cases - let's give infants to animals - everyone reacts differently. Face it
@valgez1 In the case of homosexuals raising kids: humans raise humans. And truth to be told, homosexuals are just as human as you are. You can deny it, but it IS the truth :)
@xDeathCall Homosexuals should be confined to the closed reservations and kept away from the normal people. It's very human. Face is, for it IS the truth
@valgez1 You're denying the truth though. If anything, you should see a psychiatrist to help you with your hatred.
'Normal people' can accept others for who they are, and 'normal people' would not hate others for loving and caring about someone. 'Normal people' should wish the best for kids and care for them as much as possible, in order to let them have the best future imaginable. And that is a life without hatred, bashing and bullying. 'Normal people' have a heart. The end.
@xDeathCall You're denying the Kids' rights to have male Dad and female Mom in the most devious and illogical ways, inventing non-existing events, referring to non-existing researches, denying anyone's rights for anything except for the gays'. Well, you don't even know how the kids are brought up. D u have kids? I am sure, you don't. You propose inhuman sadistic psychological experiments. I do have a heart, and I am normal, unlike you. You just have agenda, you are a sheep in the wolfe's clothes
@xDeathCall Sorry, I meant, You are a wolf in a sheep's clothes - merciless, cold-blooded, with no principles whatsoever, with complete disregard to human beings, except one thing thing - your own agenda. You know, as a rule, those who talk about love, consideration and "best future" the most, are, in fact, hypocritical people. So, yeah, you are radiating hypocrisy. BTW, where is the RESEARCH??? HAHAHA!!!!
@valgez1 My own agenda? I think you're the one having an agenda. I have my rights, so I'm not complaining. I just think people should be more open minded towards others. Hatred is not a solution :)
I base my descisions, experience and science on each other, in other to get the point across and have a stance that is rockhard. However, I do want to listen to others, but I will not accept intolerance from your part either. And since you started cursing at me from the start,
@valgez1 I will not play nice with you either. Of course I respect other's views, but they should listen to others too. And you're not listening, at all. You only state your own opinion without anything else. And that opinion is based on? Where does your hatred come from? You have some issues.
I've stated evidence earlier, plenty of it. I haven't seen any of yours yet though... So stop trying to act cool with your blabber, because you haven't even made a point at all untill now.
@xDeathCall (Cont...) Also, my opinion is based on the classic psychological essays on the role of Mother and Father in a family. YOU only state your own opinion, based on the Pro-Homo agenda, without anything else. And that opinion is based on? Based on NOTHING - you haven't made any point until now apart from comparing humans to penguins and saying that "Everybody reacts differently" as the means to justify anything.
@xDeathCall However, you made your point pretty clear: Use anything: Lies, invent non-existing research, deny the obvious, ignore the facts with the only purpose: Promote Pro-Homo agenda. You are using your arse :-)) when you should be using your brain. I suggest we send you with all the Fags to live with the Penguins - there's plenty of evidence supporting this decision. Also, argument with u made me understand that Fags (incl You) should be separated from normal people - everyone will only win
@valgez1 Classic psychological essays? The american psychological association maybe? News flash: old stories. They share whole other viewpoints on the subject now. Same goes for many many many not-bigotted studies. Your evidence isn't valid, and you haven't even shown any so far. I use regular studies, done by regular people, without prejudice beforehand that screws up everything. You are all bullcrap and you cant even argue properly. Shouldn't you be confined in a mental institution?
@xDeathCall The Fact: Natural course of things, designed by the Nature or by God (you choose) - whereby the union of male and female produces new humans, which are raised by the hetero couple. The Fact has been for as long as history goes. The Fact: Homo union cannot reproduce. Why? Because it's a biological design - therefore it has nothing to do with raising new humans. This is the way the humans are designed. You propose a radical change. You completely fail to show that it's harmless
@valgez1 And still nature approves of homosexuality, which I also pointed out. "The Fact has been for as long as history goes. The Fact: Homo union cannot reproduce. Why? Because it's a biological design - therefore it has nothing to do with raising new humans." - infertile couples? People didn't choose to be infertile. "The fact for as long as history goes" my ass, homophobia appeared with the appearance of christianity.
The last two sentences you stated were epicly epic failures ;)
@xDeathCall Try as much as you can, use whatever methods you find it right to use, invent whatever lies to brainwash the unsuspecting and gullible heteros to make them support your agenda - there will always be sane normal Open-Minded people like me - and they'll be in absolute majority. And yeah! All fags should be sent to live with the penguins: 1) Everybody reacts differently 2) The issue with the rights will not even surface - everyone will be equal! They can even expand ideas on sexuality
What books ? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! May be you wanna suggest one ? :-))) The book that describes how males used yo get pregnant after some fisting (i've read homos like it) - So, does fisting session makes a make pregnant? Have a book or RESEARCH proving that ? Or may be EXPERTS say smth about it? HAHAHA!!!!
@valgez1 Gays have no agenda, some people are just delusional and try to push their 'agenda' (a.k.a. their personal opinion) upon others, denying them basic rights. Secondly you're stereotyping again ;)
And you're everything but open-minded. You keep lumping the most extreme, unfitting stereotypical (human) extremes together and relate that to the gay community. That's just more than pathetic.
We just want our OWN lives in OUR hands, that is NO agenda.
@valgez1 My last comment, as I don't know why I'm still talking to a troll like you (even though I already said that multiple times o.o). Have a nice hateful life, or w/e.
P.S. I do suggest meeting some normal gay people so that you can actually have an idea what they're REALLY like (rather than the delusional stereotypical extremes that plague your mind): normal. Maybe that would be a better way to convince you.
@xDeathCall I don't really care whether Gays are good guys or not, and I have no doubt that you want YOUR lives in YOUR hands. I just don't find it right for a homosexual family to adopt children - nothing more, nothing less.
@valgez1 Soooo, how what would you think if someone said: "I don't want you to have children - nothing more nothing less." Would you agree with it or not, just because that person said that to you while he doesn't even know the slightest thing about you? I doubt it. Do you get it? I don't care what you think, because I know homosexuals can be good parents, and that's all that matters. You can think about it and deny it all you want, but this still remains a fact.
Furthermore, every meaningful psychological / sociological organization has distanced themselves from the man whose studies found that homosexual parents were bad for children because he used EXTREMELY bad methods and jumped to conclusions that the data didn't lead to.
@xDeathCall Sooo, then I would tell him to fuck off :-))) Really, I have no reason to try someone else's skin on me - I have my own skin to live in. I never mentioned being "Good or Bad Parents" - what I say is that homosexual couple is unable of giving normal adequate psychological basics. You don't have to think about, cause you won't anyway. But this still remains a fact: Reproduction is heterosexual, not homosexual, incl ALL relevant aspects - This is a fact.
@valgez1 So fuck off, stop messing with lives of others.
Homosexual couples give normal adequate psychological basics, as research proves. Not classical, but recent research, not just done by pro-gay scientist's ("agenda's").
Reproduction is possible for homosexuals, that's a fact.
Homosexuals simply need a woman, lesbians a sperm donor. What you claim is untrue. Their reproductive systems still work. At the very least, they cant pregnant against their will, like some straight people.
Let me reach out to my religious brothers and sisters on this one.
If you think forcing people to obey God is turning them into Christians, it's not. God doesn't care how much you obey him when that's the law of the land.
So trying to do that is stupid.
heatbucspies55 7 hours ago
That "minister" doesn't sound like any Christian minister I would ever listen to.
Tsuruta1 1 day ago
Good. Now we are done.
valgez1 1 week ago
I think Obama pretty much cracked it on this one. It is not the job of politicians or the constitution to dress up the civil union. That is more of a social aspect that they are not in control over
Redblood797 1 week ago
If god doesn`t like the way I live, Let him tell me, not you!!
e2004657 1 week ago
@valgez1 Did they get to choose to have straight parents then? I highly doubt it, and it isn't any more logical. No free choice = if they only had one option ;)
In history they also had wars and killed people in cold blood. That doesn't justify it in today's society. Humans are animals, in case you didn't know. You have NO right to judge for others, do you? What you act is utterly cruel.
A recent study by the NLLFS proves lesbian mothers are just as capable or even better as parents.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "A recent study by the NLLFS proves lesbian mothers are just as capable or even better as parents"
What? You resorted again to talking crap ??? :-))) I wanna see the size of the sample used, the assumptions, the method used, I wanna know whether sufficient time was given to evaluate all possible outcomes!!! You know what? You are stupid, brainless twat! As simple as that! Show me that research, idiot, or STFU, :-)))))
valgez1 2 weeks ago
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
I will take what God says over what ANY man thinks. God says it is it is unnatural for a woman to be with a woman and a man with a man. (homosexuality). Said it was unseemly. If a person was born as a homosexual it would not be unnatural.
anthonyehooker 2 weeks ago
@anthonyehooker That's perfectly fine as long as you don't infiltrate in other people's personal lives if they don't wish for it ;)
Personally I think it's weird that god created a problem and has a problem with this problem, and thus he punishes humans for something he created... And the meaning of this text is also up to people's interpretation ;O
Then again, I'm not religious.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall God did not create the problem. man rebelled against God and created the problem. I don't care how many experts say people are born as a homosexual. God is the final authority and He says it is sin and an abomination. He would not punish someone for something they could not help.
anthonyehooker 2 weeks ago
@anthonyehooker Sir, Have you ever looked at a girl and fantasized about her?
Have you ever fapped in your life? Then why have you not gouged out your eyes or cut off your hand? I don't care what you say. god is the final authority and he says it is a sin and an abomination. he would not punish someone for something they could not help.
K71110 2 weeks ago
@anthonyehooker So one man did something wrong and the whole of humanity gets punished for it? Ain't that weird? - my thoughts.
Same goes for adam and eve. Why did He put the cursed apple tree there? Why did he create the 'flawed' humans, if He's so omnipotent?
And also God of the Bible is the source of all evil for creating the devil... which he did - my personal opinion.
Q: Interpretation based? When did God talk about homosexual relationships the way we know them today? :O
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
Romans 1:26-28 "26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. {Cont}
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anthonyehooker 2 weeks ago
If a fella is shooting sperm into another fella, then the two are confused. That is Bad science!!
Sensiblehuman 2 weeks ago
There is no science to the homosexual agenda. It is all endorsed opinion by homosexuals and sympathizers of homosexuals. One cannot reason with them because reason is not what they want. The science and scientist that they claim are all false. The very act of ejaculating sperm is scientifically proven as a means to express sperm up and into the uterus/cervix for impregnating the female egg. Sperm only reacts with ovum, that is its only purpose. Now that is science!! If a fella is shooting sperm
Sensiblehuman 2 weeks ago
What happened to America, the one time spiritual beacon for the rest of the world? We've lost our way. What was right is now wrong, and what was wrong is now touted as right. Tolerance is the code word for wickedness. Righteousness is now a scourge in this land. I guess the Christians in America have all died out and left the Godless in charge. It is just a matter of time before demise is upon us and there will be gnashing of teeth.
Sensiblehuman 2 weeks ago
So too, then, must being born a homosexual is as natural as being born White. In other words, being born White, or any other skin pigmentation, is the same as a male being born to have anal and oral sex with another male?
Sensiblehuman 3 weeks ago
fuck me this sensiblehuman geezer's a right cunt. What a fucking dull lecture. Going on about how unnatural it is to be gay. (bring it on anyone else out there, I'm waiting,) Sensiblehuman is so fucking dull I find it hard to even comment - but fear not my little cherrybomb readers, I'll not deprive you for as long as there are cunts out there spouting out this filthy shit then I will make comments. Hurrah for fear of fear.
farfisa 3 weeks ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo I'd like to stop commenting and replying about this subject here, because it doesn't have a relation towards this video.
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo I just think it's to vague to claim an animal can be in a relationship with you. It may be possible, but can you ascertain it, without talking on behalf of the dog? I'd have to see your dog typing out his/her feelings towards you here... (s)he could show that
(s)he understands. And that way I would know what he/she's thinking.
I suggest you take caution when your engaging in s*x with animals though, it's still against the law...
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Then again, is it an instinct of a dog to like it's boss? Do dogs understand the feeling we humans call 'love'? Because humans can tell you what they think, a dog can't fully understand the concept of human love, can (s)he? I mean, some dogs hump everything that they see...
That's what I'm wondering. But, as long as your dog isn't harmed (<that's the whole point of it), it's okay, I guess. But how can you know that he's concenting, or what (s)he thinks?
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
Stupid youtube, posted the same comments like 10 times.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 3 weeks ago
we have an over populated world. i believe same sex marriage should be allowed.
so only the right people that are not gay can produce children.
asfran100 3 weeks ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Regarding pedophilia: Exactly, theres nothing wrong with it, as long as they don't act on it. Regarding a dog: fact remains that it is another animal species, and we CAN misread body language to our likes, even in humans. There's so many ways we can interpret things. Lastly, I'd like you to stop filling in the blanks for me, which points out why language is necessary. Raping is any sexual intercourse that isn't approved by the person it's done to.
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@xDeathCall
"we CAN misread body language to our likes, even in humans."←So... humans+human and animal+human relationships should be illegal because of the existence of the possibility that some one may do a mistake when evaluating consent?
Is that your argument or what is that you believe?
Do you have a problem with me and my dog lover having a relationship?
We only have consensual sex and I don't make any mistakes evaluating consent.
So I don't see what the problem is. XD
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 3 weeks ago
Precocious puberty is due to hormonal imbalance but has nothing to do with homosexuality.
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
Precocious puberty refers to accelerated physical development through adolescence.
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
If it were such a hormonal imbalance that clinicians could detect at birth that would assign adult sexual behavior to that infant, then that info would be available to the parents to plan for the child in the same way that clinicians use imaging to inform the parents whether the developing child is a boy or girl. Thus, quit repeating nonsense that has no basis - there is no effeminate or hormonal deficit or overproduction that would make crave a penis in his orifices. Precocious puberty refers
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
Masculinity and femininity are cultural behaviors. There is no gene for little girls wearing clothe shaken into the form of what we call dresses. Homosexual men may exaggerate mannerisms that they perceive to be effeminate. If real women as a whole walked, talked, gestured in the way that these fellas do when they attempt to imitate a female, we would likely consider that woman to be acting strange, even pretentious. Thus, there is no effeminate brain that a male child can develop in utero. If
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
If not for that publicly announced false analogy by White homosexuals, it is unlikely that I would have opined on this matter in the manner and to the degree that I've opined.
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
I am not a hater of the person nor do I wish any ill upon the person. To be frank, I love the person as much as anyone else. But it is disturbing when false claims are made comparing a volitional and gratifying sex act to skin color resulting from ancestral lineage (being gay is NOT like being Black nor any other skin pigment). If not for that publicly announced false analogy by White homosexuals, it is unlikely that I would have opined on this matter in the manner and to the degree that I've o
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
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@Sensiblehuman
(continuation 3)
"gratifying sex act to skin color"←Only am idiot would compare that, most people compares homosexuality (the sexual inclination) to skin color because are things that you can't chose to change, are things that happens out of your control. Are things that can happen at birth and may make the person homosexual at puberty.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
@Sensiblehuman Being born black is natural just as being born gay is.
farfisa 3 weeks ago
When one makes that claim (being a homosexual is equivalent to being Black or Red or White or Yellow or Brown) it gives off the impression that it randomly happened like being born deaf, mute, or missing a limb. Unless defective, a heart, lungs, a liver, and kidneys function the same way and towards the same purpose in all humans. The same is true of testicles and sperm in all men (likely at one time during the fella's life). Although I do not endorse homosexuality, I am not a hater of the pers
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
@Sensiblehuman
(continuation)
"being a homosexual is equivalent to being Black"←Gays born from hormonal defect during pregnancy are born with a feminine brain and that makes them very likely to be gay in the future. And males born with the gay gene also are likely to be gay in the future after they are born.
Homosexuality may not be like skin color which is set from birth, but homosexuals can have have a high chance that they became like that because of gene and hormonal factors.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
There is nothing natural about sperm-makers copulating between themselves nor ova-makers doing whatever they do sexually between themselves. Although it may be physically pleasurable, that does not mean that it was intended that way by design. Are all sexually pleasurable interactions intended by design? If one decides to engage in homosexuality, then accept it is an acquired taste and not the result of some innate, congenital and involuntary genetic programming. When one makes that claim (bein
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
@Sensiblehuman
"They want to be seen as normal in spite of this behavior being abnorma"←I agree, they should not do that, that would be a lie.
"There is nothing natural about sperm-makers copulating between themselves"←100% incorrect, anything that exists in the universe part of nature and so it is natural.
"Although it may be physically pleasurable, that does not mean that it was intended that way by design."←Actually, mammals are biologically designed to see sexual pleasure.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
@Sensiblehuman
"They want to be seen as normal in spite of this behavior being abnorma"←I agree, they should not do that, that would be a lie.
"There is nothing natural about sperm-makers copulating between themselves"←100% incorrect, anything that exists in the universe part of nature and so it is natural.
"Although it may be physically pleasurable, that does not mean that it was intended that way by design."←Actually, mammals are biologically designed to see sexual pleasure.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
Strength in numbers, I guess. Even certain medical and so-called scientific societies have succumbed to their coercion to ENDORSE that behavior in spite of the glaring conflict between homosexuality and a two sex species. Homosexual dogmatists have even planted the idea of homosexuality in the minds of children - we now have homosexual boys and girls. Animals have been labeled homosexuals. Even Biblical staples have been charged as being pro-homosexual. Lies, all lies!
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
@Sensiblehuman Good!!! You are a real Sensible Human, a real Open Minded.
valgez1 1 month ago
The reproductive and physiologic components lead to a conclusion that is contradictory to the mentality of the individual - cognitive dissonance! The Black American has been accosted by these folks for not being behind this madness. These folks know that their behavior and sexual ideology is bankrupt, but have gone about trying to pull in support from blank minds in order to say, "see, all these groups and people agree, with us. Thus, if you do not agree, then you are ignorant." Strength in nu
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
Although homosexuals come in a variety of tints and hues, I believe that it is safe to say that the universal push for homosexuality, like feminism, is a Western world effort. This is not to say that all Westerners are supportive of homosexuality, just that those that place it on a national platform are Western. They want to be seen as normal in spite of this behavior being abnormal. No homosexual is the product of homosexual mating. The reproductive and physiologic components lead to a conclus
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
Although homosexuals come in a variety of tints and hues, I believe that it is safe to say that the universal push for homosexuality, like feminism, is a Western world effort. This is not to say that all Westerners are supportive of homosexuality, just that those that place it on a national platform are Western. They want this behavior to be seen as normal, albeit abnormal. No homosexual is the product of homosexual mating. The sex and reproductive physiology is consistent with the anatomy, how
Sensiblehuman 1 month ago
@xDeathCall
"Beastiality is something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from two adults loving one another!"←You are misinformed or just making assumptions.
I'm a zoosexual, I love my ADULT dog as a husband/boyfriend, love him the same way humans loves other humans. There is no different between my relationship with him other than he is a mammal of a different species.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo The difference is that you love an animal other than a human. Humans are humans. Dogs are dogs. Homosexuals still remain human, unlike your dog 'boyfriend'. This is different beyond comparasion.
Here's the big difference between homosexuality and beastiality & pedophilia: consent and relationship. Kids don't (fully) understand the concept of it. And can you be ABSOLUTELY certain that your dog is concenting? Did he tell you? Can you be a 100% sure? How?
xDeathCall 1 month ago
@xDeathCall
Humans are animals they are mammals. Dogs are animals they are mammals.
Human homosexuals are relationships between mammals, same as zoosexual relationships between mammals.
"Can you be a 100% sure?"←Not even humans can get 100% certainty when they have sex with humans. I have a certainty that is between 70% and 90%
PS: Pedophilia is not a synonym of sex with children, you are using that word in the wrong way. Would you use heterosexuality as a synonym of sex with humans?
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo What's your point again? Of course we're all animals. But we're also a different species from other mammals. I don't care if you are a zoosexual or whatever, as long as you don't harm anyone with it. And since you cant ASK a dog if he likes it or wants it, you cant say you're not raping it. The communication simply isnt enough to be certain of that, and so you're aparently all about interpretation. "Well, I think the dog likes it" isnt a good argument.
xDeathCall 1 month ago
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"And since you cant ASK a dog if he likes it or wants it"←You don't need to ask, it is obvious if the dog likes it (dog will express that with body language) or if the dog doesn't care (by lag of any body language) or if the dog dislike it (by expressing body language that means NO or STOP) I can say I'm not raping a dog because I don't have sex with them if they say NO.
Why you think is rape to get naked in 4 legs and let a male dog do what ever he wants with my body
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 4 weeks ago
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@xDeathCall
"Well, I think the dog likes it" isnt a good argument."←There are scientific studies that proves dog language exists and the same studies translate that language to human language, we humans can know when a dog likes something, dislikes or is neutral to something thanks to empirical evidence or thanks to those studies.
Dogs consent to things they like, things they dislike they don't consent and things that are neutral they don't. This is an objective scientific fact.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 4 weeks ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo And humans can tell you if they dont want it.
Pedophilia is a sexual interest to children in my statement, dont interpret it otherwise. Children dont understand what a relationship truly means and thus you cant expect them to get involved in one. I never talked about sex with children in specific.
Heterosexuality would be an attraction to the opposite sex. Homosexuality is an attraction to the same sex. There you have your answer.
xDeathCall 1 month ago
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"Pedophilia is a sexual interest to children in my statement, dont interpret it otherwise." ←There is nothing wrong or harmful with having a sexual interest to children. If a pedophile does not act on his urges on a real children, there will be nothing illegal about his orientation, and that kind of pedophiles do exist.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 4 weeks ago
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DogsneedpIeasuretoo 4 weeks ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Your logic is a bit weird. We are all part of the bigger picture, humans and other animals. Just because we're all a bunch of atoms, doesnt mean we should have sex with all the other bunches of atoms in the whole wide multi- or universe.
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DogsneedpIeasuretoo 4 weeks ago
@eritasevoli
Animals can't legally marry, they can't sing a legal contract, they don't understand what marriage is, it is a human invention and is too complex for an non-human animal to understand it.
PS: Is not a special right, if 2 humans of the opposite sex have the right to marry, then 2 humans of the same sex should also have the same right.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo PS: Is not a special right, if 2 humans of the opposite sex have the right to marry, then 2 humans of the same sex should also have the same right.
????? IN other words, if 2 people of opposite sex have the right to have baby NATURALLY, then 2 people of the same sex should also have the same right??? HAHAHA!!!!!
valgez1 1 month ago
@valgez1
"N other words, if 2 people of opposite sex have the right to have baby NATURALLY, then 2 people of the same sex should also have the same right? HAHAHA!"←You aren't very bright aren't ya?
Some rights are exclusive from a sex because there is biological differences that makes one sex different from the other which gives them different rights based on those differences. For example, women have the right to give birth, biological men do not have that right for obvious reasons.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 month ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Sorry, I didn't get your idea, my response was an example of awkward logic with the purpose to show how awkward the original logic was. My idea is that homo couple shouldn't be given rights to adopt children. Can you elaborate on yours ?
valgez1 1 month ago
@valgez1
I don't have a problem with a homosexual couple adopting.
Why you don't want them adopting children?
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 4 weeks ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Very simple - presence of Father and Mother figure is essential, which is the thing that homosexual couple cannot give.
valgez1 4 weeks ago
@valgez1 On the contrary, results of research suggest that lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive home environments for children. The results of SOME studies even suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual couples.
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHA!!!! What a shit talker you, actually, are!!! Results of research suggest????? HAHA!!! What research? Sponsored and conducted by some fags? Sorry, but I absolutely have to admit that you are a complete idiot! (Or just having an agenda)
valgez1 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 "There are a couple of concerns, for example that lesbians and gay men are mentally ill, that lesbians are less maternal than heterosexual women, and that lesbians' and gay men's relationships with their sexual partners leave little time for their relationships with their children. In general, research has failed to provide a basis for any of these concerns (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999; Tasker & Golombok, 1997)."
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 "First, homosexuality is not a psychological disorder (Conger, 1975). Although exposure to prejudice and discrimination based on sexual orientation may cause acute distress (Mays & Cochran, 2001; Meyer, 2003), there is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation per se impairs psychological functioning. Second, beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents have no empirical foundation (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002)."
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 "Lesbian and heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly in their approaches to child rearing (Patterson, 2000; Tasker, 1999). Gay and lesbian couples with children have been found to divide the work involved in childcare evenly, and to be satisfied with their relationships with their partners (Patterson, 2000, 2004a). The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers and gay fathers parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual parents"
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 "There is no scientific basis for concluding that lesbian mothers or gay fathers are unfit parents on the basis of their sexual orientation (Armesto, 2002; Patterson, 2000; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). On the contrary, results of research suggest that lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children."
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great! Mom with a dick and Dad with a pussy! Fabulous! Congratulations! You are no longer a Thinking Human, but a new breed: Mindless Googleman, research-picking demagogue. BTW, "There is no scientific basis for concluding that shitting while sitting is preferable over shitting while standing" - I've never seen a research proving that ! HAHAHAHA!!!!!! :-) Dude or Gal, how did you become so stupid ?
valgez1 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 Great job avoiding anything in that text! You deserve a prize! You haven't even given any evidence-based arguments to begin with, so don't talk shet like you actually know anything about the subject. Maybe you should grow a brain and stop trolling, or get a life. Your sentence has no relevance to the subject in any way. Just so you know, it IS researchable, for example: start post on a forum and keep track of people's responds and their arguments. Of course there's alot more
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe that you expect me to address your bullshit in a serious manner :-))) You are talking about-evidence based arguments??? Provide me scientific proof that shitting while sitting is preferable over shitting while standing and singing Britney Spears songs. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! It's funny how all sorts of Youtube idiots like you talk "Science"
valgez1 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 It's even funnier you can't even properly reply xD
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Reply to WHAT ? To your BS ? So called "Proper" reply would mean being dragged into silly evidence-exchange argument, with you bringing all sorts of opinions and statements made by some politics and agenda influenced PhD assholes' :-). I don't need no silly idiot PhD to prove to me that Dad means "Man with a dick" and Mom means "Woman with a pussy". If you can't think for yourself and need some "Proof" for every single matter in this life, then good luck with that.
valgez1 3 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Think real well what "Male" and "Female" mean - cause it looks like you're living in some homogeneous environment where there's no distinct line between male and female - I don't blame you - it's a by-product of the western society. And, since you cannot shape your opinions independently and need some "research", then turn to psychological essays on the role of Father and Mother figures in the family. Unless, of course, you are just pursuing your own agenda - then it's another story
valgez1 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 Does it really matter if it's males or females, or whom are the parents? The're plenty of happy straight, gay and lesbian families out there, a male and female role model has been proven to not be a necessity. There really was no science needed for it though, it would've worked out anyway. Otherwise single-parent families would fail too. That's all. Maybe you should learn not to bash in your comments so they might be taken more seriously, like, you know, on an adult level?
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@valgez1 And I can think for myself, which is why I get evidence to make my points more valid. My views are personal, but also have a scientific background mingled in it. If things are RESEARCHED and proven, they have better stance against a mere opinion of a single individual that can't back his arguments. And for your information: you're going up against a major group of people by stating this shet, in case you haven't noticed how large the gay community is. They just want equality.
xDeathCall 3 weeks ago
@xDeathCall HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! You are definitely mentally broken if you need "Evidence" for why Dad is man with a dick and why Mom is a woman with a pussy. Really, makes no sense to go ahead with your stupidity. Bye!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall And for your information: that "Major Group" is a bunch of sick perverts! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "My views are personal, but also have a scientific background mingled in it. If things are RESEARCHED and proven" - ???
Can't you be more of an idiot ?? :-)) If you claim to be a "Thinker", then evaluate the research assumptions, the methods used, the data used, the conclusions - and ALSO evaluate possible prejudices - and check how all that stands with the psychological science. Did you do that? Fuck, NO! You "think" with your arse, not brain, right? Typical Youtube demagogue :-)
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Dear mister 'I know everything and I AM an arse', maybe instead of directly attacking, you could have a normal conversation. If you don't give arguments, you are at the psychological level of a young child - it would be a mere 'I'm right, you're wrong' dialogue. I COULD go through all of the research if I wanted to, however, it has been evaluated by many MANY experts, so I don't HAVE to run through all of it anymore. I doubt you will understand this much though... :)
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Well, looks like someone has to open your eyes, for you are unbelievably naive. 1) Experts? Aren't they the same ones that told you to buy stocks right before the market crashed? Is Alan Greenspan an expert? Yeah, He is! But he didn't believe house prices would have gone down, right? But they went down! I bet, in '06-'07 you would have advocate investing in CDOs, right? Of course, cause experts say so! Experts may even testify in court that smoking is not addictive. (cont...
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Experts on science have proven something. House prices can raise and go down without real proof. Smoking has been proven to be addictive and you could do the research yourself. That's why it's called research.
Either way, without evidence, you won't get far in life these days. ;)
Maybe you should open your eyes yourself, because you're simply blinded by your own ignorance and arrogance. Life doesn't only revolve about you, sorry to crush your delusions. Anyways, I'm off :)
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "Smoking has been proven to be addictive and you could do the research yourself."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Didn't I tell you that you are mindless idiot? Yes, you are! I know by myself that smoking is addictive, but YOU NEED this to be researched? You are a total idiot, you did your best to convince me in that!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall So, who are those "Experts" and how are they different from other so called "Experts" , HA? Since you can make a single breathe without "Evidence" I'm gonna tell you that no serious research exists in the matter discussed. So, you either find me the research, or STFU and switch to smth else, cause your stupidity has no bounds, you are totally altered mentally, or... may be you are Homo ? That explains evrth HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 In short, there's no evidence whatsover that Homo families may give "Just as" parenting and there's plenty of evidence based on psychology, on behavioral science and on such LITTLE and INSIGNIFICANT thing as 100,000s of years of human history based on hetero-sex parenting - the evidence that show that kids psychology raised in HOMO families will definitely be affected - and don't fucking argue with that ! BTW, Dr Goebbels was an "Expert" too! HAHAHA!!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall (cont...) Experts may tell you that your kid has a DDA disorder and you should give him a Ritalin which is, as experts say, harmless and not addictive. Experts may gather "Evidence" and sentence the innocent to death, some "Experts" may masterfully acquit the murderer. Even car fixing experts may have difficulty pinpointing the problem. Ever wondered what is the problem with those experts ??? :-))) Or you need an "Expert" opinion ? HAHAHA!!!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Now, as I said, even car mechanics may have different opinions. Now, consider psychology and behavioral science? What is more complex - a car or human mind? Good :-) Now, when we're talking about child psychology being possibly affected by "Homo parenting" - you need to research it, right? Make a guess, what it would take to evaluate possible implications in such a way that the results are clearly defined and are statistically significant? You don't know, right? I will tell you...
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall So, I am telling you: :-) such research would need HUGE sample of "Homo families" and kids with as homogeneous environment and population characteristics as possible, in order to provide "Fair" comparison, - then the "Sample" would have to be monitored for decades and even GENERATIONS. Even then, it would be very difficult to draw conclusions, because human mind is NOT a car, do you follow me ? :-)) Good! Trust me, such research has NEVER been conducted HAHAHA!!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall So, I suggest that you kick some "Expert" ass and start thinking independently, If you know what it is. Also, ask yourself HONESTLY: if you were a kid what Mom would you prefer - Feminine or Hairy? or what Dad - Masculine or With Big Tits? Now, imagine you have Fag parents, but all kids in a school have normal Mom and Dad - you would be very happy, right? There's an agreement among psychologists, that our behavioral pattern gets established at young age, you know...
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall So, our subconscious gets programmed at very young age and defines our behavior later in life. "No Proof" that families should be hetero? Logical Fallacy :-) Forceful Interference in the natural state of things will surely have an effect - especially when it concerns human psychology. So, get back to your "Experts" and ask them what you should eat for breakfast and how many times per minute you should breathe - good luck with that, idiot HAHAHA!!!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Take zach walsh, he's a lot of a more tolerant guy than you probably are. He's still raised by lesbians. Just because your narrow-minded view can't comprehend it, doesn't make it any less true. So yeah, the effect on this guy: tolerance to other people! HOW AWFULL!! OH MY GOD!! And no, maybe not specifically for smoking being addictive, but definetly for the negative effects of it and for example for medical help to treat health issues.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Fuck your zach walsh - give me fucking REAL SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH or Shut The Fuck Up ! :-)))))))))) Be responsible for the BS you base your arguments on - sorry, just have to say that
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 And maybe YOU should give some good argumens to explain your claims, but you probably can't find any. You cant even have a proper debate. Loser.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Explain my claims? Read them again ! HAHA!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Actually, I used to be very tolerant towards Gays, until I learned their ideas, - the reasoning of menstruating old lady is pretty solid and sane when compared to that of a homo - which is a weird, perversively sophisticated mix of Male and Female minds - no straight can understand what's going on there - but one thing is for sure - the only thing they care about is their rights - fucking egoistic perverts
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Then you should take away some of your own rights as to be equal, but would you do that? Why are you forcing your view upon their personal lives; they're not your posession. Idea's? Their idea is wanting tolerance and acceptance, not bullying and hate crimes for simply being who they are. Being treated equally compared to other human beings and not be an outcast. There are normal human beings, just like you, me and everyone else. They're all individuals so dont stereotype.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "Then you should take away some of your own rights as to be equal, but would you do that?"
HAHAHA!!!! You are TOTAL idiot, aren't you? If you take my rights away - who will REPRODUCE ? HAHA! What a fool you, in fact, are! My rights are not written in no law - my rights are NATURAL - pick a female, make children - leave together - as simple as that - natural thing based on basic instinct.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Each and every individual is different and will respond differently in different situations. You are just as different from other straights as you are from homosexuals. The common thing with you and straights, is simply the fact that you're straight. Straight people can understand homosexuals completely, you just aren't open to it. Think again.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Where is the fucking RESEARCH that you referred to? Without that research your validity as an opp is ZERO.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall What parents would YOU prefer if you were a kid ?
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Loving, caring, tolerant and accepting parents. They just have to be there when you need them. I could care less about their sex and their sexuality.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
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@xDeathCall Loving, caring, tolerant and accepting parents. They just have to be there when you need them. I could care less about their sex and their sexuality. - ????
YOU ARE A LIAR ! A FUCKING LIAR pushing your agenda at whatever possible/impossible legal/illegal means. 1) You mentioned some "research" 2) You accused me of not "Believing" in science. Now, show me that real serious research has actually been done - or get lost, little shit talker
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Ever seen a 5-years boy living with a single parent Mom, clinging to you (I assume you are a male), talking to you endlessly because of his deep unsatisfied desire to have a FATHER ??? He sees in you what he terribly lacks - a FATHER. Faggots are disguising as some pitiful sheep in wolves clothes with only one thing in mind - their agenda, at whatever cost, even at the cost of child's well-being
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Not true, unfunded, based on prejudice. And here you're also saying single parent families are wrong. Kids don't always think like this, and if they have two fathers or mothers they wouldn't even know the difference. At most, they might ask why they don't have mom and a dad like most other kids.
Gay people can reproduce idiot. You just need a lesbian and a gay couple that both want kids: they are still firtile. You don't need people to be married in order to reproduce.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Oh, but if they have gay parents, they probably know other kids with gay parents too, so that might even take away the question. They dont suffer because of it, neither do they suffer in a single parent family.
Define natural? It's seen all over nature, thank you very much >.>
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall OMG! How weird and wicked all this "Gays Rights" stuff is! In attempts to push your agenda you're ready to do anything: invent non-existing things, defy obvious matters (like children suffering in a single parent family), propose dangerous sociological experiments. Didn't I say that all this "Pro-Homo" stuff is a plague? No? So, I am telling you this right now!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall The importance of Father and Mother figure in a family has been known for ages and well documented in classic psychological essays (You love science, don't you?). If you defy that - then you're just manipulating. Now, Gays' rights to adopt kids would mean putting the kids in a different envo with the unpredictable results - that will affect them later in their adult life. In what way? The human mind is very complex, but what you suggest is an experiment, done against the will of kids
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall By allowing the Gays adopt the kids you interfere with the kids' life, you deny their rights to have heterosexual parents. You deny boys' rights to want to be like Dad and you deny girls' rights to want to be like Mom. You deny their rights to live like all kids have lived for 100,000s years. You put them in a situation when they will soon realize that "Smth is wrong" - that will SURELY affect their psychology - it's a basic SCIENCE.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall So, what you actually propose is an inhuman, sadistic sociological-psychological experiment to actively and artificially amend the natural way of things, where the party involved has NO FREE CHOICE. - What for? For the sake of GROWN ADULTS' rights!!! It's called rights violation ! Those rotten Fags want to have their rights at the expense of smth else - ultimately disgusting!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall However, I have an excellent idea!!!! Let's confine all Homosexuals to the closed reservations where no "Closed Minded Hetero" will bother them ! Why not ? Great Idea!!! After all, "EVERYBODY REACTS DIFFRENETLY" !!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Use your own silly ideas to sort your shit out without affecting the others.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall BTW, looks like you don't have your own kids, right? If yes, then you have no idea how smart 3-4 years old kid can be :-)))
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Ohh trust me, I know how smart kids can be. And I guess they're smarter than you are. You don't interfere with the kid's life, the kid's life is just as it should be, being loved and cared for. It doesn't learn as much hatred as from people like you, which is a good thing. Your studies have to be recent (at most 10 years old), research is renewed constantly. Classic psychological essays? Source? How about recent, updated studies? Like, from the last 10 years? There's plenty of
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 of studies done that show the exact opposite of what you claim. And there's even living proof of that. Kid's right to have heterosexual parents? A kid need's parents, the sex doesn't matter in the slightest. Be like dad? Be like mom? They can be moms and dads, no one is telling them not to. 100.000 years? Doubt it. Marriage for example had gay marriages in the ancient chinese culture. Something is wrong? What is wrong, they're loved and cared for, they live a normal happy life.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Natural way of things? I already pointed that out. I mean, there are even gay penguins hatching eggs together. It's not violation. What you do, is violating the rights of people by denying them the same rights as you have. What's your problem. You're affecting people negatively by hating on them. You have your opinion, dont force it into other people's lives. Gays have their own lives and you have nothing to do with them, so whats the big deal? They want to live their own lives
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 without you constantly bashing at them. They don't want anything to do with you. But are they denying you rights? No, they're not. You simply just hate them, that's all. But they didn't even do anyting to you, so why? What's your issue here?
Also, all the arguments you just posted are utter BS, so you'd better shut your mouth and get a life. Untill you get more tolerance, please, go live under your stone again.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Nope, I don't SIMPLY hate them! Not in a thousand years! I am very tolerant and liberal person who values personal freedom above anything else - even above the law! I love all people and I love all animals :-) (truly) But most of all I love KIDS ( I have a daughter) And I see what Kids want and want kids want. And I am against anything that might harm them. And don't mention penguins - they are birds and you know nothing about their psychology. And don't question what is natural
valgez1 2 weeks ago
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xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "Actually it does question what is natural. Either way, homosexuals and lesbians don't harm kids more than straight people do"
I am talking about the inevitable effect Homo parenting will have on kids - and IT WILL! There's no argument about the psychologists about the way the human psychology is influenced during the childhood and later on defines the behavioral patterns of an adult - you have no right to do any psychological experiment. And, Yeah, natural IS natural
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Natural means the way the things have been done during the whole history of humans. What you suggest is a forceful change. I suggest another thing: Put all fags in fag - reservation. Inhuman, you would say? Then I'd answer with your own words: EVERYONE REACTS DIFFERENTLY
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 OOHHH so that is what natural is. So we get to have slaves again (about a century ago), and women are property (like a century ago and still happening in some parts of the world. Oh.. but you wouldn't wish that to your daughter, I hope...), and homosexuality is normal again (Indians, Greek, Romans, Chinese history), blacks can be discriminated against (still happening), marriage is just for property... etc etc. You should read your history book again ;)
Should we all live in caves too?
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "OOHHH so that is what natural is" ???
Natural is when Dude meets some Gal, then he inserts his boner into her juicy pussy, them the Gal gets pregnant, then she goes through the ordeal of labor, then they have a kid, then they have sleepless nights, then the Dude inserts his boner into her juicy pussy again. Got it, little fool? :-))) How old are you that you don't even know what is natural and what not? Ha ?
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 And then the kid says to his Dad: "Dad" , and then the kid says to his Mom: "Mom" and the the boy wants to be like his Dad or the girl wants to be like her Mom. What? It's not natural? Not? Then, may be it's artificial ?
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 It's all natural. Face it. The only reason they ask it, is because society hasn't accepted it and because homosexuals are a minority group, so it's less common. If the kids have seen other gay parents, which in some cases they have (homosexuals usually have homosexual friend and those people might have kids too), the question would probably not even surface ;)
It's a case of society accepting it, not the kid asking questions.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall You are wrong, it's not natural. Kids are not raised in the homosexual families. Don't invent the non-existing things, agreed? "If the kids have seen other gay parents" - without "IF" - there's no IF, the absolute majority is hetero. Besides, you are speculating on the possible outcomes - what for? For the sake of the adults' rights? Experiment? As I said MANY times - read classic psychological essays and not agenda influenced stuff. You are not even trying to be objective - no way
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall I suggest send all the fags to the Fag-Reservation. 1) Everyone Reacts differently 2) If they see only Fags and don't see "Closed-Minded Heteros" - then their problems would probably not even surface. So, Yes! Send all Fags to the Reservation , away from the "Bad" Heteros
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall And read classical essays about the role of Mother and Father figure in a family :-)))))
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "The only reason they ask it, is because society hasn't accepted it and because homosexuals are a minority group, so it's less common" - ?????
This is NOT the only reason , this is the VERY essence of the matter - the homos are the minority! - that's the way the things have always been - being a homo contradicts the very basic instinct - reproduction - it's a school level science, in case you don't know
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Well the reproductional system still works, they can reproduce. Homo's have sex because of their natural instincts, they just don't fall in love with the same sex and thus don't make love to them. The essence of the matter doesn't revolve about this. Marriage isn't about reproducing... or do you want overpopulation and mass extinction? The earth is starting to get exploited to its maximum by humans to begin with. That's a higher level of school science ;)
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
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@xDeathCall "Marriage isn't about reproducing... or do you want overpopulation and mass extinction?"
What? So, it's all about stopping overpopulation? :-))) Didn't take you much time to exchange your "Humanity" and care for the rights of homos to smth else, right?
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Face the facts: homosexual couples can raise kids, straight people can raise kids, single parents can raise kids, interracial couples can raise kids, black couples can raise kids, white couples can raise kids and so the list goes on.
The essence is wether or not they can raise their kids into adulthood so that these kids can live their lives to the fullest, in the best possible way. Adopting kids serves that perpose too, for they have a better future. How can you not see this?
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall "Adopting kids serves that perpose too, for they have a better future. How can you not see this?"
Adopting kids by hetero families serves purpose, yes! Adopting kids by homo families exposes kids to the inevitable psychological effect - how can you not see this? So, if you care for the kids, pat your own money for promoting their adoption by hetero families.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
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@xDeathCall "Face the facts: homosexual couples can raise kids, straight people can raise kids, single parents can raise kids, interracial couples can raise kids, black couples can raise kids, white couples can raise kids and so the list goes on"
YOU face the facts: it's all about being Mom and being Dad - you suggest smth that has never existed. Face it.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Face it: Animals can raise human kids - it's natural, there've been registered cases - let's give infants to animals - everyone reacts differently. Face it
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 In the case of homosexuals raising kids: humans raise humans. And truth to be told, homosexuals are just as human as you are. You can deny it, but it IS the truth :)
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Homosexuals should be confined to the closed reservations and kept away from the normal people. It's very human. Face is, for it IS the truth
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 You're denying the truth though. If anything, you should see a psychiatrist to help you with your hatred.
'Normal people' can accept others for who they are, and 'normal people' would not hate others for loving and caring about someone. 'Normal people' should wish the best for kids and care for them as much as possible, in order to let them have the best future imaginable. And that is a life without hatred, bashing and bullying. 'Normal people' have a heart. The end.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall You're denying the Kids' rights to have male Dad and female Mom in the most devious and illogical ways, inventing non-existing events, referring to non-existing researches, denying anyone's rights for anything except for the gays'. Well, you don't even know how the kids are brought up. D u have kids? I am sure, you don't. You propose inhuman sadistic psychological experiments. I do have a heart, and I am normal, unlike you. You just have agenda, you are a sheep in the wolfe's clothes
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Sorry, I meant, You are a wolf in a sheep's clothes - merciless, cold-blooded, with no principles whatsoever, with complete disregard to human beings, except one thing thing - your own agenda. You know, as a rule, those who talk about love, consideration and "best future" the most, are, in fact, hypocritical people. So, yeah, you are radiating hypocrisy. BTW, where is the RESEARCH??? HAHAHA!!!!
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 My own agenda? I think you're the one having an agenda. I have my rights, so I'm not complaining. I just think people should be more open minded towards others. Hatred is not a solution :)
I base my descisions, experience and science on each other, in other to get the point across and have a stance that is rockhard. However, I do want to listen to others, but I will not accept intolerance from your part either. And since you started cursing at me from the start,
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 I will not play nice with you either. Of course I respect other's views, but they should listen to others too. And you're not listening, at all. You only state your own opinion without anything else. And that opinion is based on? Where does your hatred come from? You have some issues.
I've stated evidence earlier, plenty of it. I haven't seen any of yours yet though... So stop trying to act cool with your blabber, because you haven't even made a point at all untill now.
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
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@xDeathCall "Of course I respect other's views, but they should listen to others too"
You are lying, you don't give a shit about the views of the others. And you are not even reading.
"I've stated evidence earlier, plenty of it"
You are lying again, I've clearly shown you what that evidence is really worth, and asked you many times to show me that evidence - you failed.
"And that opinion is based on? " - my opinion is based on the 100,000 years old evidence and (cont...)
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall (Cont...) Also, my opinion is based on the classic psychological essays on the role of Mother and Father in a family. YOU only state your own opinion, based on the Pro-Homo agenda, without anything else. And that opinion is based on? Based on NOTHING - you haven't made any point until now apart from comparing humans to penguins and saying that "Everybody reacts differently" as the means to justify anything.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall However, you made your point pretty clear: Use anything: Lies, invent non-existing research, deny the obvious, ignore the facts with the only purpose: Promote Pro-Homo agenda. You are using your arse :-)) when you should be using your brain. I suggest we send you with all the Fags to live with the Penguins - there's plenty of evidence supporting this decision. Also, argument with u made me understand that Fags (incl You) should be separated from normal people - everyone will only win
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 Classic psychological essays? The american psychological association maybe? News flash: old stories. They share whole other viewpoints on the subject now. Same goes for many many many not-bigotted studies. Your evidence isn't valid, and you haven't even shown any so far. I use regular studies, done by regular people, without prejudice beforehand that screws up everything. You are all bullcrap and you cant even argue properly. Shouldn't you be confined in a mental institution?
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall The Fact: Natural course of things, designed by the Nature or by God (you choose) - whereby the union of male and female produces new humans, which are raised by the hetero couple. The Fact has been for as long as history goes. The Fact: Homo union cannot reproduce. Why? Because it's a biological design - therefore it has nothing to do with raising new humans. This is the way the humans are designed. You propose a radical change. You completely fail to show that it's harmless
valgez1 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall And Yeah! You should be confined in a mental institution. Don't like it? Then take your fags with you and go live with penguins.
valgez1 2 weeks ago
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@valgez1 And still nature approves of homosexuality, which I also pointed out. "The Fact has been for as long as history goes. The Fact: Homo union cannot reproduce. Why? Because it's a biological design - therefore it has nothing to do with raising new humans." - infertile couples? People didn't choose to be infertile. "The fact for as long as history goes" my ass, homophobia appeared with the appearance of christianity.
The last two sentences you stated were epicly epic failures ;)
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@valgez1 3 sentences* my bad, typo. As I told you before, read your history books again ;)
xDeathCall 2 weeks ago
@xDeathCall Try as much as you can, use whatever methods you find it right to use, invent whatever lies to brainwash the unsuspecting and gullible heteros to make them support your agenda - there will always be sane normal Open-Minded people like me - and they'll be in absolute majority. And yeah! All fags should be sent to live with the penguins: 1) Everybody reacts differently 2) The issue with the rights will not even surface - everyone will be equal! They can even expand ideas on sexuality
valgez1 1 week ago
@xDeathCall " read your history books again ;)"
What books ? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! May be you wanna suggest one ? :-))) The book that describes how males used yo get pregnant after some fisting (i've read homos like it) - So, does fisting session makes a make pregnant? Have a book or RESEARCH proving that ? Or may be EXPERTS say smth about it? HAHAHA!!!!
valgez1 1 week ago
@valgez1 Gays have no agenda, some people are just delusional and try to push their 'agenda' (a.k.a. their personal opinion) upon others, denying them basic rights. Secondly you're stereotyping again ;)
And you're everything but open-minded. You keep lumping the most extreme, unfitting stereotypical (human) extremes together and relate that to the gay community. That's just more than pathetic.
We just want our OWN lives in OUR hands, that is NO agenda.
Oh, you suck at trolling tbh :O
xDeathCall 1 week ago
@valgez1 My last comment, as I don't know why I'm still talking to a troll like you (even though I already said that multiple times o.o). Have a nice hateful life, or w/e.
P.S. I do suggest meeting some normal gay people so that you can actually have an idea what they're REALLY like (rather than the delusional stereotypical extremes that plague your mind): normal. Maybe that would be a better way to convince you.
xDeathCall 1 week ago
@xDeathCall I don't really care whether Gays are good guys or not, and I have no doubt that you want YOUR lives in YOUR hands. I just don't find it right for a homosexual family to adopt children - nothing more, nothing less.
valgez1 1 week ago
@valgez1 Soooo, how what would you think if someone said: "I don't want you to have children - nothing more nothing less." Would you agree with it or not, just because that person said that to you while he doesn't even know the slightest thing about you? I doubt it. Do you get it? I don't care what you think, because I know homosexuals can be good parents, and that's all that matters. You can think about it and deny it all you want, but this still remains a fact.
xDeathCall 1 week ago
@xDeathCall
Furthermore, every meaningful psychological / sociological organization has distanced themselves from the man whose studies found that homosexual parents were bad for children because he used EXTREMELY bad methods and jumped to conclusions that the data didn't lead to.
Just in case valgez brings up that tidbit.
SirDeathDark 1 week ago
@SirDeathDark So very true, though the guy didn't even post anything useful anyway ;)
xDeathCall 1 week ago
@xDeathCall Sooo, then I would tell him to fuck off :-))) Really, I have no reason to try someone else's skin on me - I have my own skin to live in. I never mentioned being "Good or Bad Parents" - what I say is that homosexual couple is unable of giving normal adequate psychological basics. You don't have to think about, cause you won't anyway. But this still remains a fact: Reproduction is heterosexual, not homosexual, incl ALL relevant aspects - This is a fact.
valgez1 1 week ago
@valgez1 So fuck off, stop messing with lives of others.
Homosexual couples give normal adequate psychological basics, as research proves. Not classical, but recent research, not just done by pro-gay scientist's ("agenda's").
Reproduction is possible for homosexuals, that's a fact.
Homosexuals simply need a woman, lesbians a sperm donor. What you claim is untrue. Their reproductive systems still work. At the very least, they cant pregnant against their will, like some straight people.
xDeathCall 1 week ago