"Hi im new on youtube, just wanted to make a channel for posting hydrogen videos and stuff. Btw, check my channel i put some cool hydrogen links up (including running a car on water)"
I tried using Cobalt Cloride, and something else when I was a child to break down H2O without electricty and it stuck in my mind, you may want to add just a tad to your current electrolite...Love your controled experiments...Thanks Kim
Question ZFF: being no manner of electrical whiz myself, would that conductive black sealant be causing the current to (largely) bypass the bulk of the plate surface until the voltage (in my mind "pressure") hit resistance passing through the black goo? If the goo could easily conduct say, 11v@1A, wouldn't the current then favor the electrolyte as it's conductor as the voltage increased?
The black adhesive is not conductive to DC. It behaves like a solid electrolyte that stores electrical charge like a regular capacitor. Electrically, it's almost the same as placing a capacitor across the input terminals. What it would do is upset a R/L/C tank circuit when AC or pulse energy is applied.
Why SS (FE)? Why not CU or AL? Mecanical work shop's give u this stuff allmost for free. I am currently experimenting with som AL, or am I just wasting time?
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the sealant. High temperature RTV might work out better for you as it is rated for Dielectric Strength, a very important property for this type of application as you well know. Love your videos - thanks for sharing, and best of luck in your endeavors.
In magnetism the magnetic fields drop off the farther the point of interest moves from the magnetic object. I do not know if this holds true, but have you tried spacing the inner neutral cell plates closer and the outer cell plates farther apart to get a more uniform gas production.
Just to comment on the nonlinearity observed: Current does not follow a linear path with voltage in the cell. Between 0-1.8 volts it's pretty straight and shallow. At this point it begins to break down and current starts to rise steeply. Between 1.8 and 2.4 volts is where it makes this transition. Over 2.4 volts the current continues to rise exponentially with voltage.
When running at 1.97 volts per plate, any nonlinearity in the distribution of charge becomes accentuated by the nonlinearity of the current curve. It looks like cables between towers of a suspension bridge. Once you try to push the whole stack beyond 2.2 volts per plate the charge distribution evens out.
Also note, my decision to go from 6 to 5 neutral plates is for DC powered cells ONLY. I still believe just under 2v per plate is the optimum BIAS voltage to entrain pure distilled water molecules for efficient fracture through tuned resonance pulsing.
If it's the stuff I'm thinking of there is a large amount of carbon black used in it,that is what happend. There is a solvent you can get in a marine store for that stuff if you apply some heat it will come off too save the plates. There are many types of expoxy based dielectric we used in the microvave industry.
I thought you had opted to stay away from the caustic materials?? And if i'm getting this right the new spacing would be a Logaritmic function? DUH is the adhesive a polysulfide type? so many questions makes my head spin. Can hardly wate for you to pump this in a resonate circut wow. GOOD stuff your the best.
I WANTED to stay away from caustic electrolytes and pulse straight distilled only. UNTIL I discovered what a poor choice it was to use this adhesive that completely threw off any predicted capacitance values for the cell. This made it totally unsuitable for use as part of a tuned resonant tank circuit. Until I rebuild with different adhesive it's suitable for DC only. >:(
And here's the worst part. I still don't know if the adhesive I was using before is any better. I have two smears of adhesive curing tonight, one new, one old. Tomorrow I will peel them off, put them between equal plates, measure the capacitance of each and compare the difference in dielectric properties between the two.
what is the thickness of the ss?
noelkorea111 1 day ago
wow. Sorry what's ml? Did you mean litres per minute? 6?
ZebbMassiv 3 months ago
so much production for such a tiny unit. you deserve a nobel prize.
ZebbMassiv 3 months ago
@ZebbMassiv These are old videos. Current cells produce >6ml/minute/watt of energy input. Check out my "Batt-Cell"
ZeroFossilFuel 3 months ago
you saw less from the negative because H2O (H2) meaning negative atracts the Hydrogen and their will be more hydrogen than oxygen sense H2O Not HO2
batmanmob 6 months ago
granted i am on an ambien right now, but I swear one of those bubbles is angry at me .i see it's eyes!!
visvire 7 months ago
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"Hi im new on youtube, just wanted to make a channel for posting hydrogen videos and stuff. Btw, check my channel i put some cool hydrogen links up (including running a car on water)"
HHO2011 9 months ago
what is the black adhesivve?
mmarielle07 10 months ago
@mmarielle07 3M Marine
ZeroFossilFuel 10 months ago
I tried using Cobalt Cloride, and something else when I was a child to break down H2O without electricty and it stuck in my mind, you may want to add just a tad to your current electrolite...Love your controled experiments...Thanks Kim
coldshot5555 1 year ago
you talk to much
hookuspookus529 1 year ago
@hookuspookus529
No, it's just that you're too ignorant to appreciate what he is saying.
Hardwyre 7 months ago
@Hardwyre Easy boy. Try to remember many of these comments come from children who take an interest too.
ZeroFossilFuel 7 months ago
@ZeroFossilFuel
Good point.
Hardwyre 7 months ago
Question ZFF: being no manner of electrical whiz myself, would that conductive black sealant be causing the current to (largely) bypass the bulk of the plate surface until the voltage (in my mind "pressure") hit resistance passing through the black goo? If the goo could easily conduct say, 11v@1A, wouldn't the current then favor the electrolyte as it's conductor as the voltage increased?
MemrabPenhest 4 years ago 2
The black adhesive is not conductive to DC. It behaves like a solid electrolyte that stores electrical charge like a regular capacitor. Electrically, it's almost the same as placing a capacitor across the input terminals. What it would do is upset a R/L/C tank circuit when AC or pulse energy is applied.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
Great work!
Why SS (FE)? Why not CU or AL? Mecanical work shop's give u this stuff allmost for free. I am currently experimenting with som AL, or am I just wasting time?
fleksjon 4 years ago 4
SS is all that holds up in the caustic electrolyte. Other metals can produce highly toxic byproducts, aqueous and gaseous.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
Hi there, sorry for asking again, but did you receive my E-mail about the rotating water HHO cell? I wondered what your thougths are about that.
HERMAN130661 4 years ago
No.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing. Nice to see you back! :P
SatsukiMikata 4 years ago
Nice to see new videos, and new superb work!
How can I help with progress? Best regards, Gman
GmanBB 4 years ago
Donate generously.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
Hi, Please provide me a link where I can donate via Paypal. Best regards!Gman
GmanBB 4 years ago
Just follow the Angelfire link from my YouTube channel page, youtubedotcom/zerofossilfuel, links to zerofossilfuelDOTangelfireDOTcom.
Thanks!
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
VERY good work, indeed!
keep it up....
InvalidMemberAccount 4 years ago
love the cupcake plug, lol
FredrikFlintstone 4 years ago
Hey, you gotta laugh once in a while. Can't take anything too seriously.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the sealant. High temperature RTV might work out better for you as it is rated for Dielectric Strength, a very important property for this type of application as you well know. Love your videos - thanks for sharing, and best of luck in your endeavors.
Voice0fEnergy 4 years ago
In magnetism the magnetic fields drop off the farther the point of interest moves from the magnetic object. I do not know if this holds true, but have you tried spacing the inner neutral cell plates closer and the outer cell plates farther apart to get a more uniform gas production.
johnHutt 4 years ago
Haven't tried. I do know magnetic fields drop off by the square of the distance. I don't think the non-linear effect is as profound as this.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
Just to comment on the nonlinearity observed: Current does not follow a linear path with voltage in the cell. Between 0-1.8 volts it's pretty straight and shallow. At this point it begins to break down and current starts to rise steeply. Between 1.8 and 2.4 volts is where it makes this transition. Over 2.4 volts the current continues to rise exponentially with voltage.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
When running at 1.97 volts per plate, any nonlinearity in the distribution of charge becomes accentuated by the nonlinearity of the current curve. It looks like cables between towers of a suspension bridge. Once you try to push the whole stack beyond 2.2 volts per plate the charge distribution evens out.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
Also note, my decision to go from 6 to 5 neutral plates is for DC powered cells ONLY. I still believe just under 2v per plate is the optimum BIAS voltage to entrain pure distilled water molecules for efficient fracture through tuned resonance pulsing.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
If it's the stuff I'm thinking of there is a large amount of carbon black used in it,that is what happend. There is a solvent you can get in a marine store for that stuff if you apply some heat it will come off too save the plates. There are many types of expoxy based dielectric we used in the microvave industry.
crazzieg 4 years ago
You do not want to use any form of epoxy in an electrolyzer tank. Trust me on this one.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
awesome discovery
keep up the good work
marsL001 4 years ago
I thought you had opted to stay away from the caustic materials?? And if i'm getting this right the new spacing would be a Logaritmic function? DUH is the adhesive a polysulfide type? so many questions makes my head spin. Can hardly wate for you to pump this in a resonate circut wow. GOOD stuff your the best.
crazzieg 4 years ago
I WANTED to stay away from caustic electrolytes and pulse straight distilled only. UNTIL I discovered what a poor choice it was to use this adhesive that completely threw off any predicted capacitance values for the cell. This made it totally unsuitable for use as part of a tuned resonant tank circuit. Until I rebuild with different adhesive it's suitable for DC only. >:(
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
And here's the worst part. I still don't know if the adhesive I was using before is any better. I have two smears of adhesive curing tonight, one new, one old. Tomorrow I will peel them off, put them between equal plates, measure the capacitance of each and compare the difference in dielectric properties between the two.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago