Nice game I that is what my game is missing the harras with drops and reapers nah don't feel like it because it take my attention from my base and I'll forget something like suply or making scv. Terran does look imba in this game but that is because of the way Raw played. Good game for both players.
THE GAME WILL ALWAYS BE IMBALANCED BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUCKING ROCK PAPER SCISSORS!
There will always be flaws, it's human nature. The only thing they can do is TRY to get it close. If you want a balanced game, TAKE OUT TWO OF THE RACES, but then it would be boring as hell.
Things need to be tweaked, sure. Mules, ultralisk pathing, hydralisks, the power of marines mid-late game, protoss death balls, void rays when charged, fucking mass carriers.
@anaheimangels24 if zerg: overlords in the flight paths the drop ships take to get to u....static defense(spore/spine crawlers, and infestors kill everything
I have been a protoss player since launch and I think they are fun to play as. well i decided to switch to terran and I must say that they are by far the easiest race to play. The income is insane. They have an answer to EVERYTHING. They are not punished as hard if they have to switch tech. move shooot move shoot move shoot move shoot micro is very hard for other players to deal with. I have to give props to the zerg players though. That is one annoying race to play as.
here's my take on zerg and terran. terran is so much easier to play and has more effective playstyle. ive been playin zerg since release ( not often: in plat league). i wanted to try drops and MM balls, so i tried terran few times. but terran killed so much better, and with less risk.
@mapledragons its short for imbalanced, which is an overused term that everyone uses when they can't beat a unit/ strategy the way they want. What it really means, and there have been cases, like Adam & Jeff said reapers in beta, is that a unit is too effective relative to it's cost.
What is the best way to counter terran dropships (as any race)? I've had this strat used against me, and it seems like a real good one. You can hit anywhere at any time and be out that quick. It seems like one or two spore crawlers (or cannons, or turrets) won't be enough if he has 3 or 4 dropships.
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aww u mad zerg? Ur faggotry OP race getting fucked up the asshole by the hardest race to play zerg? Can't mindcontrol every terran unit that's not infantry or else kill them all with infestors, have infinite free zergling launcher seigetank broodlords, and have every unit that's faster than a dropship? U mad u can't win with your OP race you fucking queer shits?
@LeeHitlerSaddamLaden I think you're mad that you aren't good enough to properly play zerg, so you harp on others who play the hardest race in the game.
If no one noticed, i sent 2 more reapers down with the other reaper that survived during the 1st reaper attack, and i sent them to the main during my 1st drop to my natural :D just saying. -RawLikeSushi
So why didn't zerg take the gold/other natural instead of building useless macro hatch? Even as a silver I know macro hatches only come in late game after your 3rd is saturated.
MULES ARE SO NOT OP THEIR UNER POWERED IF YOU ASK ME AND PROTOSS IS OP THEY CAN MAKE UNITS JUST ANYWHERE 1 PYLON IS WOW BLIZZNERDS! ...................jk :P
The game they coined Oprah Money (10,000 mineral stockpile) they said the guy who almost got it was a shit player until he won by way of 35 Ultralisks.
@andyk516 I think the "risk" is the risk of being attacked while all your marines are away killing the debris. This isn't a huge issue for Terran since they wall off, but a roach/zergling army could easily break the wall before the marines got back to defend.
@TheMoocow2009 yes I know but his is Terran as am I. And if you wanted to plan it you could send out a vision marine for early detection of an inc attack and take the others to get ur destructibles IF you wanted to. :)
#1 Sorry Duck, but you would have done way better if you didnt make so many roaches. The marauders are too good against roaches. With such a heavy marauder force you want to stick with lings, they are more cost effective against marauders.
That was not imbalanced at all. The Terran wasted gas on the second Reaper (they were only good as scouts this game) and transitioned into MMM. The Zerg decided to go for an EXTREMELY late baneling bust with Roaches while the enemy was getting Marauders and was already on T3. His drone count was terrible for a two base Zerg and never got Baneling speed.
@leovaeg In that case, Terran late game armies against Protoss are mostly T1. Point is, Tiers are very subjective to point of view. Medivacs are such powerful support units that synergize so well with the lower tiers and are so gas heavy that in my opinion, are T3. The general sense of Tier is based on when the tech the Tiers represent generally come out.
@decoy134 regardless, no way MMM is Tier 3, that's just ignorant...i'll agree its T2, AT BEST, but certainly not Tier 3, which is generally the "highest echelon" of any race's technology.
...point is, poor play by the Zerg led to the loss, combined with some decent Terran play, and nothing of the sort in regards to imbalance (though, for the record, i DO think that Terran is slightly OP before the late-game)
@leovaeg No, I think Factory and Starport are T2. If Thors (Armory) is T3, then its requirement (a Factory) has to be T2. Marines are the only T1 Terran unit... marauders and reapers are T1.5.
Also, shouldn't Ghosts be T2? The Ghost Academy just requires a barracks.
@jorge12app Yes I am. It is a primary late game composition with great synergy with lower tier units and is gas heavy. That is my reason and feel free to disagree.
well, isn't it great when a zerg gets stuck on the wrong tech and cries imba?
Obviously, terran must be imba if he had medivacs dropping in your base and you didn't tech to any anti-air units (other than queens). It's not like Hydra or spores could have taken care of that. Even if they could, it's not like he could afford it when he was up a base, or could've expanded.
Yeah, imba... must be imba.
Oh and Idra must be the greatest player known to man too.
@prototypedenNIS Completely agree, except that Idra is actually an amazing player. He can be a tad bm, but his reasons for thinking Protoss is OP in the late game v Zerg are actually quite interesting.
@2rik9 I agree with some of the points from Idra, especially that Zerg has scouting problems pre-lair tech and vulnerability in defense due to that scouting (State of the Game with Day(9) convo). I think he has a firm belief that he's not just worthy of winning but he's "entitled" to win because he is "a better player" than everyone who beats him. Sometimes, yeah, you can really say something is imba, I think that his ego leads him to think that he can not be beaten by skill alone.
@prototypedenNIS Yeah I've seen Idra lose due to being out skilled and he can be rage-y, but not often, he's one of the best Zerg players in the world. His main issue is that it's extremely hard to beat a turtling 2 or 3 base Protoss as Zerg before the Protoss is able to max out. Then at 200/200 Protoss is just ridiculously powerful.
@2rik9 I have a great deal of respect for the guy. He is one of the best. I think the Protoss max ball is just a characteristic of the race. Multi base Zerg have the ability to remacro at a ridiculous rate when trading armies and the best way for a Zerg not to lose to a max Protoss ball is to trade armies away and prevent it. Not doing that is a mistake that can make a Zerg player lose a game, but that's not really imba that's letting the hi tech race out tech you. Or rebuild quick....
@eatSLEEPshitHONDA Imba is short for imbalanced. It conmes up in starcraft when a race or unit is over powered in some way. If something is legitimately imbalanced, it will get nerfed (reduced in power) by Blizzard (Creators of SC) with patches. Chess is balanced because they have the same pieces, all three races are very different and have different characteristics so blancing them is harder.
Usually, when someone claims imba, they are making excuses for their poor decisions in game.
@afcxclannad I was using a bit of sarcasm, as I also just did as well. He is one of the best players int he world, he is certainly one of the best Zerg. He is however, a great example of someone who does complain publicly because despite him being a "better player."
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Every single thing you guys say is wrong. That terran did not have a great defense, the zerg was just a fucking retard and chose to attack in a horrible position. The hatch first as well; as soon as you see there isnt a 2rax, you're 100% ok to hatch first on that map. In most situations, except for situations such as close positions meta or shattered, hatch first is fine, even if there is a 2 rax. Totally possible to defend with hatch first. Learn to cast, or stop all together. I enjoy WCF, but
Big ups to RawLikeSushi. As I'm a low lvl player it brings me great joy to see a Terran player using dynamic, proactive, non-turtle type play. Not a tank in sight, HOT DAMN. Also, has Adam been studying up? The coms are getting close to pro sounding.
nice game the problem with zerg platinum is learning to get that third then the fourth and so on ... alot of times these plat level zergs get stuck on 2 base speading creep etc and a macro hatch on 2 base isnt good should be on 3 and he should have got baneling speed infestors etc no need to attack terran
@AEgamesFtw LOL you're a fucking moron. I'm NA silver and I just smashed EU silver and gold for about 3 hours. need replays for proof? oh you don't know what this "proof" is that I speak of, cuz you just make up random "facts" you flaming euro trash.
@aswertiobn banelings and lings counter marines. mutalisks are not for killing marines. mutalisks are suppose to be used for map control and harrasment.
The Zerg didn't scout. He didn't try to break the rocks and grab a 3rd. He didn't get mutas, the one unit that shuts down drops. He didn't get roach or bane speed or weapons or armor upgrades, something his opponent did. He DIDN'T PUT SPINE CRAWLERS AFTER HE GOT DROPPED TWICE. And yet he is complaining about terran being imba?
@xRawPower How was his macro better? He built an early hatchery because that's what the pro's do and then that's it.. wow.. awesome macro.. He sucked bad. Terran teched up to T 2.5 with medivacs and the zerg got roaches. FAIL
@bubba18sar i said macro not tech. his macro wasnt good either i never said that lol, it was better than the terrans though. he almost floated to to 2k in the bank mark at one point. :P
and when it comes to the terran... ooooohh what high "2.5" tech, the most standard build ever: mmm (which isnt even a good ZvT strategy).
also, i dont know what you mean by "cause thats what the pros do" lol, thats what smart zergs do.
Quick question if anybody wants to answer it. Can marines and marauders overdose on stim? like, if you use it when they have less life than it takes to use it will they die?
@panfich That kinda sucks, might make the people who say stim is imba lighten up a bit if it had that drawback (and it would make sense, it's a drug and it hurts them but it's not deadly?)
@thompbry : no they can't overdose. Whewn their health is that low, stim won't work aymore, and your marines/marauders stay alive - probably not very long though with such low health ;-)
@thompbry No, if they don't meet the health requirement to stim, they simply will not. Of course this is at the point where the unit is already very low on health, and thus very easy to pick off sans medivacs.
The back expansion is pointless to get when the terran could just make tanks or thors and bombard from the high ground, that is one thing in my opinion that I will say is overpowered about terran since no other race can get to that high ground and abuse it. It is not so much that the units are imbalanced, it is how they can abuse the map.
sushis not raw, sashimi is raw. Sushi is just "something" on rice...
JAFrk 2 days ago in playlist 1v1 Casts -- LAGTV [Starcraft 2]
duckpubz needed to realize he wasnt going to just win with roach ling... especially on this map which favours drop play so much
should have contained the ground, and built up air defence... got hydras or mutas to keep the skies locked down and expanded
246trinitrotoluene 1 month ago
Nice game I that is what my game is missing the harras with drops and reapers nah don't feel like it because it take my attention from my base and I'll forget something like suply or making scv. Terran does look imba in this game but that is because of the way Raw played. Good game for both players.
anawa083 1 month ago in playlist 1v1 Casts -- LAGTV [Starcraft 2]
THE GAME WILL ALWAYS BE IMBALANCED BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUCKING ROCK PAPER SCISSORS!
There will always be flaws, it's human nature. The only thing they can do is TRY to get it close. If you want a balanced game, TAKE OUT TWO OF THE RACES, but then it would be boring as hell.
Things need to be tweaked, sure. Mules, ultralisk pathing, hydralisks, the power of marines mid-late game, protoss death balls, void rays when charged, fucking mass carriers.
But hey, they're doing what they can.
staphinfection 6 months ago
its pronounced duckpubes
mannyStern 6 months ago 3
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Braces suck. Thumbs up to show your agreeing
NoisyNinjaSC2 7 months ago
Protoss wins!
Skillerlazer 7 months ago
@leehitlersaddamladen r u 10? Or do u have a small dick? I can't tell
Vendnmachine 7 months ago
@ningjafs your stupid, everyone qq's about everything .. Everything is op to almost everyone
Vendnmachine 7 months ago
@anaheimangels24 if zerg: overlords in the flight paths the drop ships take to get to u....static defense(spore/spine crawlers, and infestors kill everything
Vendnmachine 7 months ago
Thumbs up for anti FKING spoiling by the retards that thumb up spoilers.....
YO DAWG I heard.......... meh cbf
FibbleStarbuck 7 months ago
how do u lift back so fast?
eatSLEEPshitHONDA 7 months ago
duck pubes ! kinda obvious =]
SparxDBomb 7 months ago
I saw duck in the top comment and was like wat..I'm not bad
AngryDuk 7 months ago
that was an awsome plat match
SEXYDamo116 7 months ago
I have been a protoss player since launch and I think they are fun to play as. well i decided to switch to terran and I must say that they are by far the easiest race to play. The income is insane. They have an answer to EVERYTHING. They are not punished as hard if they have to switch tech. move shooot move shoot move shoot move shoot micro is very hard for other players to deal with. I have to give props to the zerg players though. That is one annoying race to play as.
halofornoobs93 7 months ago
here's my take on zerg and terran. terran is so much easier to play and has more effective playstyle. ive been playin zerg since release ( not often: in plat league). i wanted to try drops and MM balls, so i tried terran few times. but terran killed so much better, and with less risk.
ojon12389 7 months ago
im new 2 SC2... and i have a noob Question... wuts Imba?
mapledragons 7 months ago
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ZhaoYun94 7 months ago
@mapledragons it's short for imbalanced
ZhaoYun94 7 months ago
@mapledragons its short for imbalanced, which is an overused term that everyone uses when they can't beat a unit/ strategy the way they want. What it really means, and there have been cases, like Adam & Jeff said reapers in beta, is that a unit is too effective relative to it's cost.
XcZeus3469 7 months ago
@mapledragons Google "imba" 5th and 6th result. Could have your answer in less time than it took to type your question.
TheBaron87YT 7 months ago
@TheBaron87YT Thank You, people forget that they have what they need at their finger tips.
TheChicoNerd 7 months ago
What is the best way to counter terran dropships (as any race)? I've had this strat used against me, and it seems like a real good one. You can hit anywhere at any time and be out that quick. It seems like one or two spore crawlers (or cannons, or turrets) won't be enough if he has 3 or 4 dropships.
AnaheimAngels24 7 months ago
That was an epic zerg fail. You never attack without speed. For the love of god 17 minutes in without bane speed against Terran.
RELLIKPIR 7 months ago
That was an epic zerg fail. You never attack without speed.
RELLIKPIR 7 months ago
Geeeeee terrestrial rage quit wp
ThePowmar 7 months ago
is it a zerg thing to qq about "imbalances"?
ningjafs 7 months ago
Terran is OP. Zerg needs really good micro every unit should move constantly like a flowing water.
dylanseo1995 7 months ago
@dylanseo1995 umadbro? qq less.
ningjafs 7 months ago
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aww u mad zerg? Ur faggotry OP race getting fucked up the asshole by the hardest race to play zerg? Can't mindcontrol every terran unit that's not infantry or else kill them all with infestors, have infinite free zergling launcher seigetank broodlords, and have every unit that's faster than a dropship? U mad u can't win with your OP race you fucking queer shits?
LeeHitlerSaddamLaden 7 months ago
@LeeHitlerSaddamLaden wtf dude?
XHarderStylezX 7 months ago
@LeeHitlerSaddamLaden I think you're mad that you aren't good enough to properly play zerg, so you harp on others who play the hardest race in the game.
Natsuaga 7 months ago
@LeeHitlerSaddamLaden Zerg is the hardest race to play in the game. Period.
AnaheimAngels24 7 months ago
look in the middle of the map. ya you see it too
EFWgaming 7 months ago
@EFWgaming wut?
supergod577 7 months ago
And that's why you don't try to just knock on a Terran's front door.
motegrate 7 months ago
it's still duckpubes, because they have plumes
skele56 7 months ago
"nope this isn't imba"
The guy plays like ass and blame the imbalance. Fucking crying zergs.
orkinho1 7 months ago
should be duckfubes, since they have feathers.
Randyolsson 7 months ago
Loving that subtle lisp you recieve from getting braces tightend =D
lucianvilk 7 months ago
If no one noticed, i sent 2 more reapers down with the other reaper that survived during the 1st reaper attack, and i sent them to the main during my 1st drop to my natural :D just saying. -RawLikeSushi
ZhaoYun94 7 months ago 9
@ZhaoYun94 2bad your macro is dropping misserably because of that shannanigans ;)
LPchief 7 months ago
@LPchief I know right? :)
ZhaoYun94 7 months ago
@ZhaoYun94 you are asian. OP
Reapent 7 months ago
@Reapent at least i'm not Korean. That's more OP
ZhaoYun94 7 months ago
good game !
willypataponk 7 months ago
So why didn't zerg take the gold/other natural instead of building useless macro hatch? Even as a silver I know macro hatches only come in late game after your 3rd is saturated.
Adam9172 7 months ago
@Adam9172 If you aren't sure you can secure a 3rd safely a macro isnt bad
Yoghurtful 7 months ago
@Adam9172 macro hatches on 2 bases are more common than you realize
you don't need to have macro hatches only in late game, mid game is good for macro hatches too
TheNeCafe 7 months ago
@Adam9172 its good if u getting litlle units like zlings nd roach or if u macroing hard
supergod577 7 months ago
MULES ARE SO NOT OP THEIR UNER POWERED IF YOU ASK ME AND PROTOSS IS OP THEY CAN MAKE UNITS JUST ANYWHERE 1 PYLON IS WOW BLIZZNERDS! ...................jk :P
Maplejellify 7 months ago
wow great game!!
shank666shank 7 months ago
The game they coined Oprah Money (10,000 mineral stockpile) they said the guy who almost got it was a shit player until he won by way of 35 Ultralisks.
DarkKnightMorgan 7 months ago
So the Mass Ultralisk should be called the Oprah build, then? If so I approve.
LaZodiac 7 months ago
lol at noobs complaining about balance
jorge12app 7 months ago
what league is that ;O????
QRWASUPER 7 months ago
@QRWASUPER top right is the league symbol.
djteac 7 months ago
wow there is a huge difference between low plat and top plat...
jorge12app 7 months ago
Good play by Terran. Zerg had a lot of chances to capitalize and take the game.
phirephate 7 months ago
SOUR about those braces!
LeetHaxington 7 months ago
livestream ftw
arctrooper24 7 months ago
what video editor do you guys use?
sony vegas?
Koldness99 7 months ago
Come on Duck. Come on Duck -- come on duck
folksinger87 7 months ago
Duck got his ass kicked
LOL
Machizel 7 months ago
dat lift
sdgundum990 7 months ago
Not a WHOLE lot of risk in destructibles at ur natural if you consdier the idoling of of marines in base.
andyk516 7 months ago
@andyk516 I think the "risk" is the risk of being attacked while all your marines are away killing the debris. This isn't a huge issue for Terran since they wall off, but a roach/zergling army could easily break the wall before the marines got back to defend.
TheMoocow2009 7 months ago
@TheMoocow2009 yes I know but his is Terran as am I. And if you wanted to plan it you could send out a vision marine for early detection of an inc attack and take the others to get ur destructibles IF you wanted to. :)
andyk516 7 months ago
2 things:
#1 Sorry Duck, but you would have done way better if you didnt make so many roaches. The marauders are too good against roaches. With such a heavy marauder force you want to stick with lings, they are more cost effective against marauders.
#2 Braces are hell in your mouth :(
TheForeman847 7 months ago 13
Is it just me or is there never a late game on this map?
BLUEC0RE 7 months ago
@BLUEC0RE lol what? if you spawn far-positions it's crazy macro.
TheNietzschian 7 months ago
@TheNietzschian I mean, when I played regularly and even when I watch vids, I never see all expansions in play. Maybe its just me
BLUEC0RE 7 months ago
Great game.
Toplislivestream 7 months ago
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YO DAWG I HEARD U LIKE BRACES!
johnnyk617 7 months ago
would you say duck was foul about that game?
feedingear 7 months ago 2
Braces hit me up with collab!
LegendarySock 7 months ago
No festors= you loose.
Daraezen 7 months ago
The middle of this map looks like a swastika...
Seeckay 7 months ago
That was not imbalanced at all. The Terran wasted gas on the second Reaper (they were only good as scouts this game) and transitioned into MMM. The Zerg decided to go for an EXTREMELY late baneling bust with Roaches while the enemy was getting Marauders and was already on T3. His drone count was terrible for a two base Zerg and never got Baneling speed.
decoy134 7 months ago 2
@decoy134 how the hell is MMM T3 dude?
creamrunner 7 months ago
@creamrunner Barracks: T1 Factory: T2 Starport: T3 A Medivac is T3 and MMM is a T3 late game composition primary used against Protoss.
decoy134 7 months ago
@decoy134 Tier 3 isn't "building tiers", but rather Tech tiers, meaning Thors(via Armory), BCs(via Fusion Core), and Ghosts
Factory/Starport are still fairly basic Tier 1 or even 1.5 structures
leovaeg 7 months ago
@leovaeg In that case, Terran late game armies against Protoss are mostly T1. Point is, Tiers are very subjective to point of view. Medivacs are such powerful support units that synergize so well with the lower tiers and are so gas heavy that in my opinion, are T3. The general sense of Tier is based on when the tech the Tiers represent generally come out.
decoy134 7 months ago
@decoy134 regardless, no way MMM is Tier 3, that's just ignorant...i'll agree its T2, AT BEST, but certainly not Tier 3, which is generally the "highest echelon" of any race's technology.
...point is, poor play by the Zerg led to the loss, combined with some decent Terran play, and nothing of the sort in regards to imbalance (though, for the record, i DO think that Terran is slightly OP before the late-game)
leovaeg 7 months ago
@leovaeg 'that's just ignorant..." Once again, your opinion. Keep it to yourself.
decoy134 7 months ago
@leovaeg No, I think Factory and Starport are T2. If Thors (Armory) is T3, then its requirement (a Factory) has to be T2. Marines are the only T1 Terran unit... marauders and reapers are T1.5.
Also, shouldn't Ghosts be T2? The Ghost Academy just requires a barracks.
TheMoocow2009 7 months ago
@decoy134 u are saying mmm is tier3?
jorge12app 7 months ago
@jorge12app Yes I am. It is a primary late game composition with great synergy with lower tier units and is gas heavy. That is my reason and feel free to disagree.
decoy134 7 months ago
I definitely wouldn't say that was imba. mmm isn't even that effective against zerg if they go muta/ling/baneling.
stretch90 7 months ago
well, isn't it great when a zerg gets stuck on the wrong tech and cries imba?
Obviously, terran must be imba if he had medivacs dropping in your base and you didn't tech to any anti-air units (other than queens). It's not like Hydra or spores could have taken care of that. Even if they could, it's not like he could afford it when he was up a base, or could've expanded.
Yeah, imba... must be imba.
Oh and Idra must be the greatest player known to man too.
prototypedenNIS 7 months ago 11
@prototypedenNIS Completely agree, except that Idra is actually an amazing player. He can be a tad bm, but his reasons for thinking Protoss is OP in the late game v Zerg are actually quite interesting.
2rik9 7 months ago
@2rik9 I agree with some of the points from Idra, especially that Zerg has scouting problems pre-lair tech and vulnerability in defense due to that scouting (State of the Game with Day(9) convo). I think he has a firm belief that he's not just worthy of winning but he's "entitled" to win because he is "a better player" than everyone who beats him. Sometimes, yeah, you can really say something is imba, I think that his ego leads him to think that he can not be beaten by skill alone.
prototypedenNIS 7 months ago
@prototypedenNIS Yeah I've seen Idra lose due to being out skilled and he can be rage-y, but not often, he's one of the best Zerg players in the world. His main issue is that it's extremely hard to beat a turtling 2 or 3 base Protoss as Zerg before the Protoss is able to max out. Then at 200/200 Protoss is just ridiculously powerful.
2rik9 7 months ago
@2rik9 I have a great deal of respect for the guy. He is one of the best. I think the Protoss max ball is just a characteristic of the race. Multi base Zerg have the ability to remacro at a ridiculous rate when trading armies and the best way for a Zerg not to lose to a max Protoss ball is to trade armies away and prevent it. Not doing that is a mistake that can make a Zerg player lose a game, but that's not really imba that's letting the hi tech race out tech you. Or rebuild quick....
prototypedenNIS 7 months ago
@prototypedenNIS what is imba?
eatSLEEPshitHONDA 7 months ago
@eatSLEEPshitHONDA Imba is short for imbalanced. It conmes up in starcraft when a race or unit is over powered in some way. If something is legitimately imbalanced, it will get nerfed (reduced in power) by Blizzard (Creators of SC) with patches. Chess is balanced because they have the same pieces, all three races are very different and have different characteristics so blancing them is harder.
Usually, when someone claims imba, they are making excuses for their poor decisions in game.
prototypedenNIS 7 months ago
@prototypedenNIS Idra is not the best player but he is the best Zerg player
afcxclannad 7 months ago
@afcxclannad I was using a bit of sarcasm, as I also just did as well. He is one of the best players int he world, he is certainly one of the best Zerg. He is however, a great example of someone who does complain publicly because despite him being a "better player."
prototypedenNIS 7 months ago
@prototypedenNIS Lol yeah i love when he loses he rages, insults and leaves without saying gg
afcxclannad 7 months ago
yo dawg. i heard u like braces, so I put some brace in your face
JossJossJoss1 7 months ago 2
Anyone else think back to the infamous Nysskel WCF game upon seeing this map? :)
ThomasBruceClayton 7 months ago
@DuckpuBZ you failed ....
p3t31992 7 months ago
@Drei242 no it doesnt you retard. LagTV puts that in as part of the overlay.
SubSonicPulse 7 months ago
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Oh yeah Jeff and Adam, if you look to the upper right portion of the replay it shows what league the players are in. Thumbs up so they can see!
Drei242 7 months ago
@Drei242 We go over this every cast. They add the league banner after they cast the game.
Deathwing11 7 months ago
@Drei242 fail
bluey1695 7 months ago
@Drei242 That's edited, like the other 5+ comments just said. Thumbs up so idiots can see (not really)!
Lrn2Starcraft
xGunster 7 months ago
@Drei242 .......
Complete420 7 months ago
you're just hurting all of the low level players who watch you with inaccurate casting
SubSonicPulse 7 months ago
@SubSonicPulse they are not obviously gonna say how shit people play like. sour about ur negativity
jorge12app 7 months ago
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Every single thing you guys say is wrong. That terran did not have a great defense, the zerg was just a fucking retard and chose to attack in a horrible position. The hatch first as well; as soon as you see there isnt a 2rax, you're 100% ok to hatch first on that map. In most situations, except for situations such as close positions meta or shattered, hatch first is fine, even if there is a 2 rax. Totally possible to defend with hatch first. Learn to cast, or stop all together. I enjoy WCF, but
SubSonicPulse 7 months ago
@SubSonicPulse SOUR
Fluke1K 7 months ago
what is imba?
lukesterbear 7 months ago
@lukesterbear means imbalanced a race has an unfair advantage over other
alexander33345 7 months ago
@lukesterbear he means the mmm build tarrens do
nbaumg 7 months ago
@lukesterbear It stands for imbalanced.
The123Viewer 7 months ago
I miss all those swishy noises that Jeff made when the CTRL+N (New replay names feature) hotkey first came out.
Drei242 7 months ago
whats imba mean?
NateRiver44 7 months ago
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TheJohnnygrunge 7 months ago
@NateRiver44 Imbalanced
dragathen 7 months ago
@NateRiver44 imbalanced
shank666shank 7 months ago
You shoulda called him Duckpubes.
asdfawesomesauce 7 months ago 53
I think is name is duck-pubes? lol
MrECHOfox 7 months ago 71
Rage quitting is imba.
mestiarcanus 7 months ago
First!
Hakumo84 7 months ago
@Hakumo84 ur the farthest thing from first.
Ctix999 7 months ago
Big ups to RawLikeSushi. As I'm a low lvl player it brings me great joy to see a Terran player using dynamic, proactive, non-turtle type play. Not a tank in sight, HOT DAMN. Also, has Adam been studying up? The coms are getting close to pro sounding.
bendertronic 7 months ago
@bendertronic appreciate it.
ZhaoYun94 7 months ago
duckpub....z. we'll just call him duck pubez.
dniceo7 7 months ago
Terran macroed horribly, and he still crushed Zerg.
fandanstan 7 months ago
@fandanstan these are low level players...
MrNoNaMe1107 7 months ago
@MrNoNaMe1107 platinum is low level?
ZhaoYun94 7 months ago
@fandanstan because the zerg sucked. The terran did way better than the zerg in every aspect.
djteac 7 months ago
duckpubes????
jvp117 7 months ago
who da fuck macro hatch right next to natural
linpointer 7 months ago
nice game the problem with zerg platinum is learning to get that third then the fourth and so on ... alot of times these plat level zergs get stuck on 2 base speading creep etc and a macro hatch on 2 base isnt good should be on 3 and he should have got baneling speed infestors etc no need to attack terran
burhan121212 7 months ago
Ironic that Jeff makes fun of the guy for rage quitting against Terran
I3lackcell 7 months ago
I was shitting about going into 9th grade w/o braces yet.. but knowing Adam still has braces makes me feel better.. YES I'M A KID, GET OVER IT.
rkid1296 7 months ago
@rkid1296 Jeff has braces not Adam
sgthunter09 7 months ago
I like when scrub leagues whine about balance issues
omnishakira 7 months ago
@omnishakira platinum is scrub?
aswertiobn 7 months ago
@aswertiobn NA platinum is scrub since it's aproximately EU silver. EU platinum is at least diamond in NA.
AEgamesFtw 7 months ago
@AEgamesFtw you cant prove that in the LEAST BIT stop fuckin saying random ass 'facts' that you made up.
marzejon1 7 months ago
@AEgamesFtw LOL you're a fucking moron. I'm NA silver and I just smashed EU silver and gold for about 3 hours. need replays for proof? oh you don't know what this "proof" is that I speak of, cuz you just make up random "facts" you flaming euro trash.
dniceo7 7 months ago
@dniceo7 Sour aboot that comment.
lordkabab 7 months ago
@aswertiobn obv
omnishakira 7 months ago
why didn't that retarded zerg play get mutalisks? just having like 6 mutas would make the terran player scared of going for a drop.
skullmanwizard 7 months ago
@skullmanwizard he had plenty of marines...
aswertiobn 7 months ago
@aswertiobn banelings and lings counter marines. mutalisks are not for killing marines. mutalisks are suppose to be used for map control and harrasment.
skullmanwizard 7 months ago
The Zerg didn't scout. He didn't try to break the rocks and grab a 3rd. He didn't get mutas, the one unit that shuts down drops. He didn't get roach or bane speed or weapons or armor upgrades, something his opponent did. He DIDN'T PUT SPINE CRAWLERS AFTER HE GOT DROPPED TWICE. And yet he is complaining about terran being imba?
I hope that guy stays in Platinum for eternity.
g0rilas 7 months ago 3
Burrow two or three banelings behind your mineral line, problem solved.
BaileysBeads 7 months ago
sour about that rage quit
chrisbary 7 months ago
Whiners gonna whine... its something ive learned after playing tons and tons of CoH.
LiezAllLiez 7 months ago
I hate this map as zerg. fast exp is so exposed.
Rufio0707 7 months ago
@Rufio0707 lol because protoss can expand right ?
Dzylynyky 7 months ago
Keep it up!!!
skinhoe 7 months ago
Really guys? Good micro by Terran? A+click, T every 10 seconds....
Serious?
Pand0rk 7 months ago
i feel ducks pain, his macro was better, and both of their micro was pretty much nonexistent lol
xRawPower 7 months ago
@xRawPower How was his macro better? He built an early hatchery because that's what the pro's do and then that's it.. wow.. awesome macro.. He sucked bad. Terran teched up to T 2.5 with medivacs and the zerg got roaches. FAIL
bubba18sar 7 months ago
@bubba18sar i said macro not tech. his macro wasnt good either i never said that lol, it was better than the terrans though. he almost floated to to 2k in the bank mark at one point. :P
and when it comes to the terran... ooooohh what high "2.5" tech, the most standard build ever: mmm (which isnt even a good ZvT strategy).
also, i dont know what you mean by "cause thats what the pros do" lol, thats what smart zergs do.
xRawPower 7 months ago
Quick question if anybody wants to answer it. Can marines and marauders overdose on stim? like, if you use it when they have less life than it takes to use it will they die?
thompbry 7 months ago
@thompbry nah, it wont let you stim if stimming would kill the units.
panfich 7 months ago
@panfich That kinda sucks, might make the people who say stim is imba lighten up a bit if it had that drawback (and it would make sense, it's a drug and it hurts them but it's not deadly?)
thompbry 7 months ago
@thompbry
No, when you hit less than or equal to the health lost for stim then it won't apply another stim.
Pand0rk 7 months ago
@thompbry : no they can't overdose. Whewn their health is that low, stim won't work aymore, and your marines/marauders stay alive - probably not very long though with such low health ;-)
zeemanbe73 7 months ago
@thompbry No, if they don't meet the health requirement to stim, they simply will not. Of course this is at the point where the unit is already very low on health, and thus very easy to pick off sans medivacs.
MiguelFO82 7 months ago
i feel your pain jeff!
seigfreeg 7 months ago
The back expansion is pointless to get when the terran could just make tanks or thors and bombard from the high ground, that is one thing in my opinion that I will say is overpowered about terran since no other race can get to that high ground and abuse it. It is not so much that the units are imbalanced, it is how they can abuse the map.
juvygenius 7 months ago
@juvygenius Ya.. except for the fact that zerg can get mutas and keep that from happening.. or use the terrain to abuse just as much.
bubba18sar 7 months ago
Come on Duck...
YuffieGVxx 7 months ago
Zero dislike its to many !!!
TheReymysterio23 7 months ago