Norman Finkelstein at Brown part 3

[irishgeal1]

germany did not lose the second world war, palistine did. period.

[palimostafa]

@irishgeal1 palestine had nothing to do with world war 2, jus that the jews went there after germany lost and the jews were free, which i hate the fact that germany lost otherwise there wudnt be any jews in palestine.

[mourningleaves]

Do the Greeks with Anatolian ancestry, the Finnish expelled from Russia, the Greek Cypriots, the Kosovan Serbs and the Sudetenland Germans have a right of return? Do the Jews from Arabia? Apparently this right only applies to those Arabs whom other Arabs have insisted on keeping in camps. What was Black October?

[osamabinsmokin]

@mourningleaves Yes if it was after the Geneva convention, Arabs keeping Arabs in camps? I think the governments of Jordan and Lebanon would rather the Palestinians disappeared. Black October was the 1987 financial crisis in the UK, how is that related?

[mourningleaves]

@osamabinsmokin my bad, Black September. But my point is, when Israel could accommodate nearly one million Jewish refugees from Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria, Morocco etc. and integrate them into society; Why are the Arab refugees' children and grandchildren living in camps in Arab lands? They function as human leverage, that's why.

[osamabinsmokin]

@mourningleaves None of the Jews of Arab descent actually want to go back home, the Palestinians still have the keys to their houses and they want to go back, the town next to me Bet Shean was 100% Arab before 1948 it is now 100% Jewish. The civilian population fled to Jordan to avoid being killed, international law is quite clear and allows them to return, if the war had went the other way would the Jews still be waiting?

[mourningleaves]

@osamabinsmokin "None" is pushing it, I'd say. But I guess you are right that the Jews feel more at home in Israel than they ever did as dhimmis in Arabia. I have no doubt many Israelis are in fear of becoming a minority of a openly anti-semitic muslim majority... Should Israel force Jews back to Syria to make way for 3rd gen Syrian camp-"refugees"?

[osamabinsmokin]

@mourningleaves Ok 'none' might be pushing it, the complaints I hear are that they should be compensated for the property they left behind, fair point but so should the Palestinians. Iran still has a population of over 20,000 Jews who have an automatic right to live in Israel but they prefer to stay in 'anti-semitic' Iran. How come a 5th generation Jew from New York has a right to live here but a Palestinian who's family still lives in Israel has no right? because Jordan and Syria attacked?

[mourningleaves]

@osamabinsmokin Israel is meant to be a refuge for Jews from anywhere. Why can't Arabia not be a refuge for Arabs? It is unfair, no doubt, but could a refuge for Jews be run by anti-semites? The driving forces behind the conflict is Jewish fear and Arab hate... In my humble opinion. If there was peace, borders would be opened for family reunions.

[osamabinsmokin]

@mourningleaves Arabia isn't a country, Arabs from Saudi are not the same as Arabs from Morroco, the point is civilians displaced by war have a right to return home, maybe Jews do need a homeland but should that be at the expense of the Palestinians? The early zionists knew the Arabs would not accept them colonising Palestine and remember they were secular white Jews from Europe, that is the crux of the problem. It's in Ben Gurions diary, he explains that they knew it would be a HUGE problem.

[mourningleaves]

@osamabinsmokin Arabs from Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and Trans-Jordan ARE from what has been ONE province for about a thousand years. It was only split in the 1920's and 1930's. You have a good heart, I can tell. Keep it up. Good night. You get the last word:

[kscuteflute]

amazing, impressive... very well stated and researched

[r0ll0t0masi]

Very impressing guy...

[9samten]

An excellent video. Have a lot of respect for Dr. Finkelstein. To have such courage and dedication to the truth is very inspiring.

[hanysal]

Someone needs to stop Israel (Without being VETOed).

[GreatGrumbledook]

To quote Nietzsche:

"This is our conviction: we confess it before all the world, we live and die for it. Respect for all who have convictions!" I have heard that sort of thing even out of the mouths of anti-Semites. On the contrary, gentlemen! An anti-Semite certainly is not any more decent because he lies as a matter of principle.

So no avail to whining: If Israel consents to her destruction in negotiations while being victorious on the battle field she does not deserve to be a state of all!

[maghrebianka]

Thank you for the upload

Excellent lecture

[rantrandomly]

Right of return? The millions of Palestinians who have never lived in Palestine? In a Muslim society where women have no rights or opportunity they have a tendency of having 10 to 12 kids.. These kids grow up to be the next generation of violent ignorant Palestinians. They have a 'right' of return?

[ballsauce666]

Oh no! mass immigration into Palestine of Russian Zionist land thieves and lawyers from Brooklyn looking to escape the law in the US would be much better!

[rantrandomly]

U have a point about the Russians. I do not want them anywhere. But one must sympathize with people trying to leave Russia. And Brooklyn lawyers may be irritating but god knows they r better then muslims. (Then again so the dog shit on my shoe.)

[whauffend]

I amicably advise you to watch 'Occupation 101', look up Noam Chomsky on the subject of Irsael here on YouTube. The Middle East conflict is the key problem in our world today (with direct links to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the cause of the war agains iraq and on an on). Humanity needs you to change your mind.

[bigcree]

Good Comeback ballsauce. That was was really stupid and hateful statement by rantrandumbly! Man, sometimes these Ziobots have a lotta nerve!

[eris1aughs]

hey how did you get to post a 35 minute video?

[RabbitNexus]

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[sameeh86]

good job..keep posting these kinda videos..americans got2 know the truth

[EKon235]

then again i would fuck dat bitch

cuz,you know...da bitch skanky and shit...wanna mint?

[mrOrthodox123]

Hi, CAN ANYONE HERE PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME WHETHER A CAMPAIGN HAS ALREADY BEEN ORGANISED IN PROTEST OF PROFESSOR FINKLESTEIN'S TENURE AT DePAUL?? If not, we need to rally for this. Bershowitz screwed him around. We need to help him. I think Gideon Levy should write the story about what happened. ITS AWFUL!!!!

[sabah4allah]

Masha'Allah!!! Well done Prof. Finkelstein. Comman sense & truth speaks at last!!

But...will the world listen & take action/sactions against Israel?

[jimiydoorshamelech]

Late Saturday, thousands of Gazans received Arabic-language cell-phone messages from the Israeli military, urging them to leave homes where militants might have stashed weapons. -- Associated Press, Dec. 27

Israel is so scrupulous about civilian life that, risking the element of surprise, it contacts enemy noncombatants in advance to warn them of approaching danger.

[oldjoe5]

Yes, directing them to a UN school that Israel blew up as soon as it was filled with Gazan women and children

[bapyou]

User jimiydoorshamelech's rationale for everything in this world:

1. Arabs kill Arabs.

2. Iranians rape women.

3. Iranians lead the world in child executions.

Therefore, because of these three "frightening facts," these are reason enough & justification for Israel to also kill Palestinians.

jimiydoorshamelech's disregards that all of these also occur in the United States: Murder, rape and child execution.

By this logic, it is accepatable for another nation to kill Americans.

[rencrow]

Excellent talk. Well done Prof finkelstein.

[JohnnyRock2000]

Finkelstein focuses on what goes on in the middle east. AIPAC is the key source of Zionist political influence in America. Neo-cons are the war hawks in action.

[JTGOB2]

He talks about that sometimes... just not as much as he talks about the legal or lack of legal grounds upon which Israel/Palestine act.

He has spoken openly about being censured, about how he and Chomsky have almost never being on television, etc. For example, google: Finkelstein Coren CJC

[JohnnyRock2000]

Saw Finkelstein on the Coren show. Coren is a phoney pseudo-intellectual, that spent the whole hour talking about Finkelshtein's rough language in his books, and refused to talk content.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

Amen, Johnny.

The Coren interview was a total waste. If you've actually read Finkelstein's books you'll know that Coren only touched on maybe 10% of the book's actual content, if that.

[oldjoe5]

Iran, a nation with zero nuclear weapons, is threatening Israel, which has hundreds nuclear warheads, with nuclear annihilation? R U really trying to sell that?

[jimiydoorshamelech]

arabs want protection from iran

LONDON - Gulf states believe Israel will destroy Iran's nuclear programme rather than allow it to acquire an atomic bomb, an adviser to the Kuwaiti government and Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) said on Tuesday.

If Iran did build the bomb, said adviser Sami Alfaraj, then the Jewish state might be one of the countries -- along with the United States and Pakistan -- Gulf Arab nations would ask to provide a "nuclear umbrella" to guarantee their security.

[oldjoe5]

Of course they do. Arab nations, of course, do not need protection from Israel. After all it was Iran that bombed the hell out of Lebanon in 2006, that quite frequently bombs arabs in GaZa and the W Bank, that not too long ago bombed Syria without explanation. Oh wait, that wasn't Lebanon, was it? Now who was it?

[oldjoe5]

No. Israel dictates the terms; take it or leave it. And then they begin the propaganda

[oldjoe5]

Remember when the Light Unto Nations told people in S lebanon to get onto the highways and clear out -- and then bombed those jammed highways?

A personal favorite of mine when asked to give one example of Israel's morality

[jimiydoorshamelech]

do you honestly think Israel would even be in Lebanon if it wasnt for Hezbollahs kidnapping, even despite the fact Hezbollah was rocketing the North was considered 'business as usual'. You understand Kiryat Sh'mona has become colloquially known as 'Kiryat Ketusha'

[oldjoe5]

That is not a question that requires any supposition on my part. We know the answer.

Israel occupied Lebanon before Hezzbollah existed. Hezzbollah came into being as a response to Israel's occupation of Lebanon.

So the answer is yes, Israel was in and would be in Lebanon without any actions by Hezzbollah

[jimiydoorshamelech]

because the PLO (terrorists) were launching mortar attacks from Lebanon and the limp dick Lebanese govt didnt lift a finger

deja vu

[oldjoe5]

Of all the Israeli excuses for occupying, oppressing, and murdering its neighbors, that seems to be number one.

Oppressed people using whatever means they can to defend themselves against an occupying power being called terrorists for doing so and morphed into fair game for the Israeli killing machine.

Israel is a very sick state and has been since its inception. They need to get well

[bunnykins110P]

You know what, why do you not go to your so called sites and videos that you agree with! Mabe type the words, kiss Israeli Murderers ASSES! That should do it, I am sooo tired of seeing your name everywhere and your constant nagging like a little "p-ssy" Please go away! We now ALL KNOW how much you agree with Israel and think they can do no wrong! YES, WE GOT IT! Slam a door in your face JIMMY! Please, Please GO AWAY! BYE BYE !

[wndsrf]

thanks for filming and uploading and thanks to Norman Finkelstein, who needs no institutional title to accentuate his awesome intellect and authority

[mingalabaa]

Finklestein says it like it is: Exposing Israel's distractions of the world from seeing their injustice toward the Palestinian.

[jimiydoorshamelech]

Israel, India and Pakistan may have controversial nuclear programs, but do not make crazy threats of wiping out countries existences. Iran has both

Even in the aftermath of a horrific terrorist attack, the nuclear nations of India and Pakistan are careful of their rhetoric as to not cause a military buildup and add more tension to the situationNPR Mumbai Attacks Strain India-Pakistan relations

[Arjuna1901]

How do these Zionist scumbags get away with wiping out a race of people? The Palestinians are being exterminated and these Zionist parasites are spinning it by shoving the Holocaust and their fear-mongering down peoples throats

[jimiydoorshamelech]

arjuba- wiping out a race?? Israel uses less than 1/5 of force Syria or Jordan does to fight Islamic extremists

--Israel counterterror: (w/ human life respect)

5,000 Total Palestinains killed since 2000 , the bloodiest 8 years of the Isra/Pal conflict. caused by intifada (bloody war declared by Palestinians)[SELF-IMPOSED]

--Arab counterterror:

25,000 Arabs killed by Syria 1980-1981(Hama Massacre) fighting the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists

[oldjoe5]

Largely through their influence (control really) of US media and US Congress and Executive

[Prophet4YAHWEH]

@Arjuna1901 How do these Zionist racist scums do it? Simply, they control the media & Capitol Hill in America to put whatever Zionist crap they want us to believe while denying us any access to the other side. The same thing with the evil chinese bastards who are wiping out the Tibetean people. Just because we trade with them, we are looking the other way while these fascist chinese scums murder the poor people of Tibet.

Nuke china out of existance!!!

[guitarguy1381]

One must really second guess where academia is going in some of these universities when a man of this callibre is denied tenure. Astonishing really.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

You might want to read this:

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[Zionist18inshallah]

Great Terrorist apologist he is.

[helenbransgrove]

Israel is a terrorist state.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

So is America.

[helenbransgrove]

Absolutely, the godfather of terrorist states.

[juliaisafilmbuff]

I admire this man so much. How I wish more people would listen to him.

[juliaisafilmbuff]

Only 800 views???? Damn...

[supermax1776]

THIS is the best use Youtube has been put to yet. Magnificent!

Teachers like Norm and artists like Phubb almost give me hope for the future. This is cutting edge, timely, relevant, and no BS. I hope the 806 views becomes 806,000 views. Soon.

Thanks for posting this.Keep up the good work!

[Shigawire]

Great man! True scholar.

Thanks for filming this Paul.

[nukn]

the part with camus is too funny, btw thanks for posting dude

[internationallawman]

I'm from New York and his voice makes me homesick. Brooklyn all the way!

He's totaly my hero.

[Underdunk65]

...except he's born and bred Brooklyn....a great man, at any rate...

[t0kt0k]

Oh maybe that's what it is. Oops.

Brooklyn, Boston, close enough. ;D

[t0kt0k]

I love how Normal Finkelstein talks. It's such a perfect boston jewish accent.

[rudey38]

here here