In the first part regards to Surrogates type of themes , somehow i cant get over the Star Wars character General Grievous.This dude nearly a complete robot , most of hes body mass has been replaced with robotic counterparts.Only the brain , eyes and some internal organs are organic.
As about the last part , i believe you are talking about something called "hive mind" ? Some science fiction races , such as Zerg from Starcraft have hive mind , which is like "collective consciousness".
You seemed to be suggesting that the intelligence is mostly seated in the organization and its computers, with the humans as simple transducers. Is that a fair interpretation of your point?
The idea is that the *users* act as the "body" of Facebook, which acts as the brains of the operation. The idea is that -in the future - the idea of a large brain on the internet, manipulating human bodies to do its bidding will become more prominent.
This is a kind of inverse of the "cyborg" scenario. Cyborg enthusiasts mostly imagine the human brain remaining central, with its sensors and actuators being augmented with machines. My picture here is of the human brain having its functions sucked out (probably mostly through the internet - but also into local devices). This picture is likely to be relevant to the extent that it is easier to engineer minds than bodies.
Another example of this kind of thing would be memory. The human memory is being sucked out into machines in a dramatic way. Machines can remember things so much better than we can. Access by humans can be inconvenient - but lifespan, fidelity and machine access rates are great.
What I *wasn't* talking about (and I sense you might be asking about) is Facebook's servers manipulating its own employees. Not that that doesn't happen - but it doesn't have much to do with the point I was trying to make here.
In the factory supervision case the machines are usually controlled automatically but the operator can override them. Current factory machines are usually too stuipid to be able to detect if something has gone wrong, such as a jam or a broken part, since they only have very limited sensing. Surrogates is a timely movie because it's expected that telerobots are going to become much more common in the near future - piping human intelligence to wherever it is required.
In the first part regards to Surrogates type of themes , somehow i cant get over the Star Wars character General Grievous.This dude nearly a complete robot , most of hes body mass has been replaced with robotic counterparts.Only the brain , eyes and some internal organs are organic.
As about the last part , i believe you are talking about something called "hive mind" ? Some science fiction races , such as Zerg from Starcraft have hive mind , which is like "collective consciousness".
cyberdaemon 2 years ago
Tim - are you using Facebook and corporations as an analogy, or are you actually saying that their server systems are these vast intelligences today?
rbarooah 2 years ago
I mean the whole corporation, including the machines, humans, and other bits. Companies are The New Organisms.
tmtyler 2 years ago
You seemed to be suggesting that the intelligence is mostly seated in the organization and its computers, with the humans as simple transducers. Is that a fair interpretation of your point?
rbarooah 2 years ago
The idea is that the *users* act as the "body" of Facebook, which acts as the brains of the operation. The idea is that -in the future - the idea of a large brain on the internet, manipulating human bodies to do its bidding will become more prominent.
tmtyler 2 years ago
This is a kind of inverse of the "cyborg" scenario. Cyborg enthusiasts mostly imagine the human brain remaining central, with its sensors and actuators being augmented with machines. My picture here is of the human brain having its functions sucked out (probably mostly through the internet - but also into local devices). This picture is likely to be relevant to the extent that it is easier to engineer minds than bodies.
tmtyler 2 years ago
Another example of this kind of thing would be memory. The human memory is being sucked out into machines in a dramatic way. Machines can remember things so much better than we can. Access by humans can be inconvenient - but lifespan, fidelity and machine access rates are great.
tmtyler 2 years ago
What I *wasn't* talking about (and I sense you might be asking about) is Facebook's servers manipulating its own employees. Not that that doesn't happen - but it doesn't have much to do with the point I was trying to make here.
tmtyler 2 years ago
In the factory supervision case the machines are usually controlled automatically but the operator can override them. Current factory machines are usually too stuipid to be able to detect if something has gone wrong, such as a jam or a broken part, since they only have very limited sensing. Surrogates is a timely movie because it's expected that telerobots are going to become much more common in the near future - piping human intelligence to wherever it is required.
motters2001 2 years ago
Surrogates is a nice movie - but (spoiler alert!) rather predictably the pure humans "triumph" - by destroying all the robots at the end.
Hollywood just can't let those poor robots live in peace, it seems.
tmtyler 2 years ago