You can just tell which method works better... SS... not many in field successive videos.... MM LOTS of successive in field Videos. You can tell just by how pissed off ross jeffreys looks when the Mystery method is brought up. You dont see Mystery going around degrading SS. Yet you see Ross doing it alot.
@TKDmaniac True. Also I think RJ's method works good with a single 1 set. When dealing with a 2 set and beyond, Mystery is the only way to go. Especially if your target rates between 9 and 11.
Give Me Ten Minutes to Talk Away My Ugly Face and I could Bed The Queen Of France," said Voltaire. To those who question whether or not SS works, Voltaire says it right there. If you can get a woman to stop and here you out, words have been what ugly men like Charles Bukowski, Henry Miller, and the such, have used to get the most beautiful women in their beds. I weigh over 250 lbs, and have gotten great beauties in my bed who I started a simple conversation with.
You might be on to something there. I wouldn't disagree with that. Voltaire once said, "Give Me Ten Minutes To Talk Away My Ugly Face And I could Bed the Queen Of France." Cyranno could've had Roxanne had he thought his looks didn't matter, because she fell in love with his words. Words have always been the gift to the ugly man to a woman's heart or bedroom.
Not true, Mystery is talking about fake things out so the girl will be attracted to you, To be honest I used MM for a long time, but I wasn't happy ... I'm using RJ's method about inner game, I don't need to fake shit, And I'm good looking btw haha
LOL... Mystery's name is like nails to a chalkboard for this guy. I think if somebody mentioned Mystery and David DeAngelo in the same sentence his head would explode.
@CaptAviator Yeah I know. I think every aspiring PUA should do like Neil Strauss (aka Style) did, try out different techniques, combine them, use what you like and leave out what you don't...
I wouldn't be that upset when a student asks a question about another method, I think.
The parts of Mystery Method that doesn't work so well (club or elsewhere) is negs and opinion openers. I've lost girls because of negs, they make most girls feel offended (they only seem to work on the arrogant snooty barbie doll types).
And opinion openers are just WUSSY. Direct game tops indirect game every time.
Indeed it's not even "game" if you can be direct and assertive (and subtly sexual) in your normal life. Every woman is a sexual being.
@susumu07 you need to use your negs sparingly. most average girls will only require about one neg during your game. a super hot babe will require a few more, but use them sparingly and only when you need to.
You're right, negs are meant to be used very sparingly. And really the only good negs to use are not really "negs" by the popular definition. Teasing, yes. But it has to be congruent with your character and that takes practice. I prefer direct 'game' like Gary Brodsky's style that opens up her sexuality and doesn't play head games with negs and stuff. With every direct sarge, I've never had to use negs, the girls just open up. Super hot babes CAN be negged, but its not necessary.
Watch neils video's hez a jockey..his presentation is 'um' 'um' 'um' slow, demonstrating lack any deeper level compotence...
"go read the game"!lol! Spoken like true bible thump.
He(Neil) is one of the weaker presenter out there...mystery,derdun,agelo,jefferies, they all show deeper more knowledge understanding of what's happening and how to apply. Neil jockeys.
Style actually has stated several times he dislikes negging, hates doing it...but that it is essential and definately works. Style, Mystery, Matador are very good at what they do and so is Ross. But I hate how bitter Ross is towards the rest of the community. I like to learn a bit of everything, but his bitterness towards the rest turns me off a bit.
for all u fags that think mystery is good looking you guys must be fuckin ugly.. Mystery is one of the ugliest dudes out there. Do you see what he wears? GAME IS GAME and Mystery has game and it isn't cuz he's good looking... HAHA
Mystery's method works too. It's stupid to say Ross or Mystery's methods don't work, because clearly they do, they work for me like you wouldn't believe, and it's all true informtion, so stop bashing and start gaming!
LOL! where were you? Mystery pwns this fucker. This dude tries to hypnotize women into doing things by putting them in a trance whereas Mystery actually becomes liked by the girl. liked by her friends, knows how to compete with an AMOG (WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE HE IS). Ross Jeffries only knows 1 on 1 mind control. the guy goes to parties and acts like a dickweed. Go read 'The Game'.
You could ALSO get a girl to DATE via Mystery's stuff. Not just brainwash into a one night stand.
Hmmm...am I supposed to take advice from a tall, good looking, cool-looking dude like Mystery, or a man like Ross, who is...no disrespect and Im sure he'd agree with me...average looking at best and possibly a little homely. This guy has solid skills, and his looks are not a factor with this guy. C'mon, man! If Mystery didnt look like Johnny Depp, he wouldnt get anything.
I'm a good looking bloke and before using mystery's method i got nothing. No, it is not about looks. Watch episode 1 of Pick up artist then the final, see how the contestants have changed.
Mystery isn't good looking man. Seriously, he's well presented. (Peacock theory =D) he was still a virgin at like 24. How attractive could he be? Also, Mystery learned about what's evolutionarily hard-wired into a girl's (and guy's) mind. Trust me when I say the man's done his homework.
He TEACHES people to be good looking (ie being very well presented)
This "Ross Jeffries" guy needs to use mind control. It's uncool, and only works STRICTLY IN A 1-ON-1 ENVIRONMENT. He's a douchebag
Ask yourself this question "If Mystery physically looked the same as ross and used his method and Ross used Speed Seduction, who would get the most women?"
Mystery is one genetically gifted guy, most of the worlds men aren't blessed from the same gene pool. If Mr Average looking wants hot women, chances are he isn't going to get much help from Mystery Method (some tuning up perhaps). Because of the way it works, Speed Seduction totally levels the playing field.
@mattc941 Really? Jefferies is that good? I've got the Mystery Method. I wasn't sure whether to look into this guy's work. I was worried they contradict each other and it would screw me up.
right in your imagination, what seems good in theory etc... doesn't necessarily work in real life..ok maybye for Mystery it does but negs are gimmicky and his stuff is shallow...try it out for real and you'll find out it just doesn't work...not in my experience...generally to get women just requires being 1.happy 2. confident and 3. flirting...too much 'technique' confuses your mind stopping you being natural and humourous
Mystery is a cock-sucker..Its a well known fact that he is gay mate for those that are truly in touch with the PUA community. You wouldn;t know knowledge or talent if you fell head first into a pile of it .
I dont know about Ross's success now...maybe back in the day, yea..not sure about today.....look at Style, Mystery, or Matador for success....Ross even speaks at Style's seminars sometimes...
Double Your Masterbating or Mysery Method
merridew90 2 weeks ago
so how do you ask for her number? ffs
YouT00Bification 1 month ago
You can just tell which method works better... SS... not many in field successive videos.... MM LOTS of successive in field Videos. You can tell just by how pissed off ross jeffreys looks when the Mystery method is brought up. You dont see Mystery going around degrading SS. Yet you see Ross doing it alot.
ImBabyAxis 2 months ago
@TKDmaniac True. Also I think RJ's method works good with a single 1 set. When dealing with a 2 set and beyond, Mystery is the only way to go. Especially if your target rates between 9 and 11.
jerseyirish 3 months ago
I think Ross is straight forward and honest. What's wrong with that? Why do you need to beat around the bush when you can show your intentions...
5SParam 3 months ago
this guy is a douche
Dylsauce 7 months ago
Give Me Ten Minutes to Talk Away My Ugly Face and I could Bed The Queen Of France," said Voltaire. To those who question whether or not SS works, Voltaire says it right there. If you can get a woman to stop and here you out, words have been what ugly men like Charles Bukowski, Henry Miller, and the such, have used to get the most beautiful women in their beds. I weigh over 250 lbs, and have gotten great beauties in my bed who I started a simple conversation with.
MPTPGV 10 months ago
@TKDmaniac
You might be on to something there. I wouldn't disagree with that. Voltaire once said, "Give Me Ten Minutes To Talk Away My Ugly Face And I could Bed the Queen Of France." Cyranno could've had Roxanne had he thought his looks didn't matter, because she fell in love with his words. Words have always been the gift to the ugly man to a woman's heart or bedroom.
MPTPGV 10 months ago
@TKDmaniac who ever put this doest understand ss
HornetUK1 11 months ago
negs are a way of not handing the power over to the chick, they work.
steptoesaunt 11 months ago
ha ha I just love how he gets pissed off at the neg question
I'd be pissed too if some tall clanky gothic looking mother fucka took all my business away and had a much better way of meeting women lmao
TotalPackage8 1 year ago
@TKDmaniac
Not true, Mystery is talking about fake things out so the girl will be attracted to you, To be honest I used MM for a long time, but I wasn't happy ... I'm using RJ's method about inner game, I don't need to fake shit, And I'm good looking btw haha
itamar4256 1 year ago
3: 30 - 3:32
"I DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF A MASTER"
LOL
tha was one of the BIGGEST JOKES I HAVE EVER HEARD
melesio87 1 year ago
LOL... Mystery's name is like nails to a chalkboard for this guy. I think if somebody mentioned Mystery and David DeAngelo in the same sentence his head would explode.
CaptAviator 1 year ago
@CaptAviator Yeah I know. I think every aspiring PUA should do like Neil Strauss (aka Style) did, try out different techniques, combine them, use what you like and leave out what you don't...
I wouldn't be that upset when a student asks a question about another method, I think.
Isteinier 9 months ago
This guy was around before Dave DeAngelo and the others. He's pretty much the pioneer.
southport97 1 year ago
u will never have mastery with women!
user8595 1 year ago
He hates Mystery
moukti 1 year ago
The parts of Mystery Method that doesn't work so well (club or elsewhere) is negs and opinion openers. I've lost girls because of negs, they make most girls feel offended (they only seem to work on the arrogant snooty barbie doll types).
And opinion openers are just WUSSY. Direct game tops indirect game every time.
Indeed it's not even "game" if you can be direct and assertive (and subtly sexual) in your normal life. Every woman is a sexual being.
susumu07 1 year ago 2
@susumu07 you need to use your negs sparingly. most average girls will only require about one neg during your game. a super hot babe will require a few more, but use them sparingly and only when you need to.
Phemar 1 year ago
@Phemar
You're right, negs are meant to be used very sparingly. And really the only good negs to use are not really "negs" by the popular definition. Teasing, yes. But it has to be congruent with your character and that takes practice. I prefer direct 'game' like Gary Brodsky's style that opens up her sexuality and doesn't play head games with negs and stuff. With every direct sarge, I've never had to use negs, the girls just open up. Super hot babes CAN be negged, but its not necessary.
susumu07 1 year ago
3:14 rules! Love the way he insults a paying client! 3:26 "i've been doing this since 1938."
FreeBlago1 1 year ago 2
gdgd
FreeBlago1 1 year ago
@NLSM
Lol..."go read the game"
Watch neils video's hez a jockey..his presentation is 'um' 'um' 'um' slow, demonstrating lack any deeper level compotence...
"go read the game"!lol! Spoken like true bible thump.
He(Neil) is one of the weaker presenter out there...mystery,derdun,agelo,jefferies, they all show deeper more knowledge understanding of what's happening and how to apply. Neil jockeys.
Um um um
Artorioux 1 year ago
@ xMoistx I Agree With You, Well Spoken Mate. Mystery's Method In The Clubs And Ross Jeffries Material Else Where Such As e.g Cafe's And Ect.
Magic2010Tv 1 year ago
Mystery is a tool , so is strauss ...NLSM sucks both if their cocks , little poof :)
MegaDakotaman 1 year ago
Use mystery method in a club
Use speed seduction elsewhere
xMoistx 1 year ago
Style actually has stated several times he dislikes negging, hates doing it...but that it is essential and definately works. Style, Mystery, Matador are very good at what they do and so is Ross. But I hate how bitter Ross is towards the rest of the community. I like to learn a bit of everything, but his bitterness towards the rest turns me off a bit.
GhostTownCU 1 year ago
for all u fags that think mystery is good looking you guys must be fuckin ugly.. Mystery is one of the ugliest dudes out there. Do you see what he wears? GAME IS GAME and Mystery has game and it isn't cuz he's good looking... HAHA
supaflyindo 1 year ago
@supaflyindo the average man is joke as far as looks are concerned. Mystery is probably about a 7 out of 10. But he is very tall. Which is important.
logant44 1 year ago
@supaflyindo
1) the look is just because he's peacocking all the time
2) his face isn't that ugly, is it?
Isteinier 9 months ago
yes nlp is powerful, but anyway its all about confidence, not looks.
Viking790 1 year ago
he's so fucking ugly, but he still gets more pussy than you
papercut272 1 year ago 3
Mystery's method works too. It's stupid to say Ross or Mystery's methods don't work, because clearly they do, they work for me like you wouldn't believe, and it's all true informtion, so stop bashing and start gaming!
4octavewonder 2 years ago
yes ross can do all david d stuff
and mystery stuff but
they cant do ross stuff got it!
xxxsmd 2 years ago
lol, in "the game" neil strauss was always talking how ross is fucking the mystery method up
and now i see how he´s calling mystery a moron :D
serbian78og 2 years ago 2
Mystery gets laid way more than this PUTZ! fuck ross jeffries!
dallasgangsta187 2 years ago
Mystery is a poof, fuck Mystery
dakotaman8379 2 years ago
@dakotaman8379
LOL! where were you? Mystery pwns this fucker. This dude tries to hypnotize women into doing things by putting them in a trance whereas Mystery actually becomes liked by the girl. liked by her friends, knows how to compete with an AMOG (WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE HE IS). Ross Jeffries only knows 1 on 1 mind control. the guy goes to parties and acts like a dickweed. Go read 'The Game'.
You could ALSO get a girl to DATE via Mystery's stuff. Not just brainwash into a one night stand.
NSLM 1 year ago
Hmmm...am I supposed to take advice from a tall, good looking, cool-looking dude like Mystery, or a man like Ross, who is...no disrespect and Im sure he'd agree with me...average looking at best and possibly a little homely. This guy has solid skills, and his looks are not a factor with this guy. C'mon, man! If Mystery didnt look like Johnny Depp, he wouldnt get anything.
clarkent69 2 years ago 2
that's rubbish.
I'm a good looking bloke and before using mystery's method i got nothing. No, it is not about looks. Watch episode 1 of Pick up artist then the final, see how the contestants have changed.
thepimpzor 2 years ago 11
@clarkent69
Mystery isn't good looking man. Seriously, he's well presented. (Peacock theory =D) he was still a virgin at like 24. How attractive could he be? Also, Mystery learned about what's evolutionarily hard-wired into a girl's (and guy's) mind. Trust me when I say the man's done his homework.
He TEACHES people to be good looking (ie being very well presented)
This "Ross Jeffries" guy needs to use mind control. It's uncool, and only works STRICTLY IN A 1-ON-1 ENVIRONMENT. He's a douchebag
NSLM 1 year ago
Ask yourself this question "If Mystery physically looked the same as ross and used his method and Ross used Speed Seduction, who would get the most women?"
Mystery is one genetically gifted guy, most of the worlds men aren't blessed from the same gene pool. If Mr Average looking wants hot women, chances are he isn't going to get much help from Mystery Method (some tuning up perhaps). Because of the way it works, Speed Seduction totally levels the playing field.
10oooo01 2 years ago
dallasgangsta187
mystery good looking
but
Ross Can make a woman slave!
xxxsmd 2 years ago
Asshole. This guy always hates on Mystery
greatnes4u 2 years ago
Does anyone one which of ross' seminars is this one?
shenrong05 2 years ago
lol i cant believe he held such low opinion on Mystery
Seanpiano 2 years ago
i can because hes so much better. have you see mystery's course, its rediculous.
mattc941 2 years ago
what are you, fuckin crazy?
fransack 2 years ago
I have both full courses. Not even in the same league. Mystery is a freakin tool.
mattc941 2 years ago
what courses d you have?
mannycomforter 2 years ago
@mattc941 Really? Jefferies is that good? I've got the Mystery Method. I wasn't sure whether to look into this guy's work. I was worried they contradict each other and it would screw me up.
ElliotWoolf 2 years ago
You could use MM for clubs, SS for daygame.
RichhhR 2 years ago 4
@mattc941 A tool that hundreds of women use to shove in their vagina.
MrMacD069 1 year ago
Hi Ross, you're in good shape here. I love your work.
jollyfellow25 2 years ago
negs arent bullshit... they actually work.
AndresDX1 2 years ago
right in your imagination, what seems good in theory etc... doesn't necessarily work in real life..ok maybye for Mystery it does but negs are gimmicky and his stuff is shallow...try it out for real and you'll find out it just doesn't work...not in my experience...generally to get women just requires being 1.happy 2. confident and 3. flirting...too much 'technique' confuses your mind stopping you being natural and humourous
vincent4500 2 years ago
hey do any of you know what the name od this dvd is
Pyang69 2 years ago
you can choose to become a hypocrite but you can't become someone you are not
MountArarat7 2 years ago
wut?
KeyboardBazooka 2 years ago
Careful there is no one like Mystery but, Ross knows about the game, he plays with the mind maybe even further but Mystery is the greatest no doubt.
hugotokn 2 years ago
This guy is old news, he sucks ball sack. Mystery, Style, Matador, Lovedrop, David D. There are some real names in the PUA community
kbacon211 2 years ago
Mystery is a cock-sucker..Its a well known fact that he is gay mate for those that are truly in touch with the PUA community. You wouldn;t know knowledge or talent if you fell head first into a pile of it .
robkota2 2 years ago
Why does he knock negging so much if he's regularly speaking at Style's seminars?
Style was always huge with negging.
axmasta 2 years ago
Why does he knock negging so much if he's speaking at Style's seminars regularly?
Style was great at negging.
axmasta 2 years ago
I dont know about Ross's success now...maybe back in the day, yea..not sure about today.....look at Style, Mystery, or Matador for success....Ross even speaks at Style's seminars sometimes...
DJKhal21 2 years ago
That last peace wast really really good to close a job interview,Thank u My lord Ross.
gaygay78 2 years ago 2
he's the master
glassstatue 3 years ago