Read the Law that the officer is talking about 36 CFR 7.96. You are on National Park Service grounds and there are exceptions to your right to assemble. You need a permit if you intend on drawing a crowd (which you are if you are shouting). It's for your own safety and the safety of the visitors. There are streets where you are allowed to protest listed on the website, fascist nut jobs.
@TheEmpowered787 So if we pay for a permit then it's ok to draw a crowd and it poses no more danger to anyone,that's crazy, it's the same except we have more money in our pockets rather than the governments.Bad laws are meant to be challenged by the public otherwise they'll write so many codes and statutes you won't be able to scratch yourself without being fined.Oh and stop watching Lamestream media,there are no terrorist's hiding around every corner trying to destroy monuments.Get real!!!!
@2wheels88 Every time I see a demonstration get broken up, it is for the same reason. No permit. Is there a reason(s) why no one gets a permit ahead of the demonstration?? Just once I would like to see someone produce the permit and see what the next "law" being broken is. Someone is afraid of your message!! Not of you as a group; but definitely your message. Get the permit! Play their stupid game and beat them at it. Shake a permit in the face of that little bald swat doughboy. Peace!!
it's all common law U.C.C code all commerce law look it up, free information free your mind ! free the WORLD !
law as we know it today is from the authorized King James Bible of the year 1611, like it or not that is the facts, we need to learn the law to fight them with there own words !
we will take control back and we will make them behave !
You guys are a fucking disgrace to America. You need a permit to demonstrate in order to prevent absolutely chaos. There is the First Amendment, but not everyone can exercise that right at the same time. They are not saying you can't exercise it, but they need you to coordinate and come up with a time and organize yourselves. You guys are a bunch of extremists retards. Go home!
@TheEmpowered787 People peacefully assembling is "chaos"? If you want to see CHAOS look at the riots in Britian where students are smashing windows etc. These young Americans did us proud, and stood up for their constitutional right to freely assemble. Please read the first amendment.
@TheEmpowered787 CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise therof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEABLY (note that word and their actions) ASSEMBLE, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
any law requiring permits to peaceably assemble as these people have is unconstitutional. btw, I don;t neccesarily agree w/ their message against universal healthcare
the police are not against you having a peaceful gathering, but unfortunatly some individuals put their interests before the safety of the general public thus creating a hazard.
you don't need a permit unless you're blocking the road he's just a bully that does'nt like your message!!! Watch Police State documentaries here on youtube all 4 of them they cover the last ten years of police millitarization and training as well as foreign troops training on U.S. soil against Americans in mock trial home invasions and disarming the population.When this happens in Washington youre in more trouble than u think.The first movie is Police State 2000,Police State 2,3 and 4.
Actually, you're wrong. The National Park Service has special privileges in the District and neighboring Maryland and Virginia. If you live in DC (like I do), you know that you don't mess with the Park Service. They are constantly on the lookout for terrorists to strike the capital's monuments. Thus, under the 36 CFR 7.96 you cannot assemble and draw a crowd without a permit. It's for everyone's safety and allows the police to do their job. You guys don't even know what Socialism is
@TheEmpowered787 No actually the law is wrong a you should'nt put up with it unless you're a fascist and love being stepped on,you can site your codes all day but the constitution crushes your stupid code.Go back to your black opps games and Harry potter books and let the adults take of the real shit you moron.
Its not DC police or more correctly the MPD ( Metropolitan Police Department) it is the US Park Police a federal police arm of the National Park Service.
Sgt. Dillion was doing his job. He asked for a permit. He got a sarcastic answer. If a permit is required get it. As for reaching for a taser, that was not shown. All you hear is a sound of velcro. Most taser holsters especially those used by SWAT teams have a hood that filps down and is silent. Second no police officer is going to let you make a phone call while he is talking to you. This kid is a sarcastic little asshole. Note: "It's actually Sgt. Dillion" replied "Thanks alot Officer Dillon"
So this is what our country has come to...when peaceful people can not congregate in public without threat of being hauled away to jail. This is not the country I grew up in. Send this video to your friends as its the very reason why you MUST become involved with YAL and the freedom movement. RonPaul 2012
this is boring!!!,,,anyone see "dancing with the stars" ??cnn?? or how tiger woods did this season.!!....,,,nothing to see here.move along..!! go back to sleep america...lol
@piffunit88 just the type of comment youd expect from a child,,or an uneducated fool who"s been brain washed all his life..wish i could say i feel pity for you,but i dont.!! lol.
f'#@king unbelieverble,why has this happened what is wrong with people .they sent an armered personnel carrier to take on kids,if i was US parent i would walk on washington.Its is not long till the company complete the circle and everything is netted
Fucking idiots. "Say no to socialism, say yes to freedom." You dont like the new reform, leave the fucking country. That way you'll save all of us headaches and we can actually enjoy our time on the national mall. I'm tired of trying to playing sports down there and hearing all the protesters yelling all the time. Protesting at national parks should be outlawed.
"You dont like the new reform, leave the fucking country"
The Nazis said the same things to the Jews as they eroded their rights. The Mafia says the same thing to those in their neighborhoods that they charge "protection" to.
We are human beings and we deserve freedom, not a choice between slavery here or exile and slavery elsewhere.
And do you seriously think playing some sport is more important then these young people pursuing their civic duty of protesting big government?
P.S.: If there we're less than 25 people there, it's perfectly legal, even within the unconstitutional law.
(i) Demonstrations involving 25 persons or fewer may be held without a permit provided that the other conditions required for the issuance of a permit are met and provided further that the group is not merely an extension of another group already availing itself of the 25-person maximum under this provision or will not unreasonably interfere with other demonstrations or special events.
Where is the constitution does it day you have to get a permit to exercise free speech? Doesn't the government decide if they want to issue permits or not kind of defeat the whole point of being able to speak out against the government? I don't support what they are saying but they have right to say it.
"You do not have free Speech."- Yep sums up the gestapo, sorry, DC police quite well.
yeah for real... they are doing their jobs... treat them like one of you and you will open their eyes to the bullshit they enforce... we have to attack the correct power structures... and part of that is bringing over the police and military in support of the people not the corruption
@gildo682 And when you work for Jeffery Dahmer and he employs you to recruit young men to bring to his residence, I guess you will give the same brain dead response won't you?
Just get a permit! Then exercise your 1st amend't rights to your heart's content! The reason they have groups acquire permits is so that order & safety (including your safety) can be maintained.
If the Klan, the NAACP, a Socialist group and your group all showed up on that corner..there would be pandemonium!!
Get a permit so the police know what group is coming, at what time & how many officers and EMTs to have so your group of 20 doesn't get mobbed by a100 person 'Public Option' group.
Henry, you get permits from the city not the police. If you listen to the video, the cops had no idea the other protesters had a permit until they asked them.
Permits exist to limit demonstrations, not benefit demonstrators.
Requiring police to attend every demonstration in case there is a fight is like having a cop sit on your doorstep in case your robbed, its unnecessary, a waste of tax dollars, and a waste of law enforcement's time.
Nice try... apply to the city, tell them you're going to have a demonstration of 200 people and I promise the city will have cops & EMT there just like they did for the 'million man march' 'the march on washington' 'the stop the war' demonstration and so on...
To Henrymph: "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson........Plus it really has nothing to do with safety it's about control. If you have to ask for permission it is no longer a right it is a privelege, they are slowly but surely stripping our rights away.
i agree 100%... we need to change this shit... the internet generation are the enlightened ones... we have to rise up and change the laws noone will do it for us...
If you stay on the sidewalk around the Mall, how can they say you are on National Park property? Another thing, seems to me they made this national park land precisely so they could limit access to it. It's a vague memory, I could be wrong, but try to look it up. They are way out of line, but this is par for the course isn't it?
This is a propaganda video made to antagonize. If free speech is for everyone, why cant the Officer tell the unathletic male to kiss his axx. Why would he have to reach for a tazer on a Liberal? They are not a physical threat. And it is not DC Police, which is made to be slanderous against the DC Police, who were not invloved in any way. We need a Los Pepes squad! Look it up!
I can't believe the "Young American for Liberty" didn't know that you can't demonstrate on Capitol grounds. I think I discussed that in my entry level poli sci class freshmen year. There are plenty of great spots to demonstrate in DC where people will see you. And if that's not good enough, get a permit.
Young Americans for Liberty should research that kind of thing first. The club shouldn't only consist of poster coloring time and attempting to scare a veteran cop who knows the rules.
The actual law states that if you have over 25 people actively involved in your demonstration you must have a permit. This has nothing to do with being at the capitol. They were within their rights and their rights were violated. Next time do your research before you comment. And the group leader was right, the 1st amendment protects free speech and states the NO laws may be made abridging it so all laws restricting speech are unconstitutional. Read your constitution.
@wearechangeoc I see. I only thought they were on capitol grounds because another comment stated that.
So why did they leave? If they had less than 25 people (which it looked like they did), wouldn't it have been better to stand up to the cop? He says hes going to haul you and all of your friends to jail. So why not let him try to book you on nothing?
The leader never says I have under 25 people and I don't need a permit. He just argues that requiring a permit is impeding on his rights.
I think Srg. Dillion did a good job. They didn't have a permit. Those are the rules. Doesn't matter if your conservative or progressive. If the protesters wanted to prove their resolve they could of allowed themselves to be arrested, clearly they had none. Or they could of protested off Capitol grounds.
I dont know why we obey unconstitutional laws.I would of went to jail for what I believe.I would not carry any Identification either.If they tried to book me that would be very funny with out a name.I would be out of jail in 24hours.
that Officer Dillon has lost sight of what he is being employed by the people to do. HE IS THERE TO SERVE AND PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. He swore an oath to that effect. Instead of protecting their rights to free speech he threatens the peaceful protesters with jail. Brainwashed to follow the orders of his slaves. LAw enforcement have been conditioned to see the people as suspects and as 'the enemy'. Their job is to keep the people safe but they don't know what that means anymore.
they can protest all they want...go get a fuckin permit...the constitution doesnt protect a bunch of d-bags standing on a street corner taking up the fuckin sidewalk...just go get a fuckin permit....thats everywhere not just dc...dc makes it easier than almost any other place in the country to protest...and i know everyone here hates cops...until they need them....seriously grow the fuck up
Lol u really are lost arent you. The very essence of the constitution is to protect the rights of douchebags! It certainly wasnt meant to protect the already protected. I mean hello! It was meant to protect minority rights! seriously bro think before you right man. Now cmon come back at me with something good.
the kid is right about the permit. He should not have to comply with laws that violate his first amendment rights. But nothing will get done if nobody makes a stand for liberty. Stand firm and do not comply, make them have to physically come cuff and arrest you.
This is stupid. The loudest message in this video is that Young Americans for Liberty are not intelligent or organized enough to put on a proper protest; also demonstrated they have too much tenage angst to show respect to a police officer. Well done!
Oh so they had no respect for the officer? Even though the officer had no respect for their first amendment right? Wow works both ways ya know.
Trevor: Can I make a phone call?
Cop: No you can leave right now!
Yeah really so much respect there.
DOn't be so biased and big gov't cheerleader, the disrespect was mutual. And also to note, perhaps being able to protest without having to get gov't permission is something they take close to heart. Ever consider that?
1) What's up with the subtitles when it says that the officer is reaching for his taser, no cop would have the taser in a holster that he has to bend over to reach, so obviously whoever made the subtitles is either a) a moron, or b) wants to tarnish the reputation of the dc police, and 2) if that idiotic kid at the end seriously thinks that the truck was sent out specifically to stop them, he needs a reality check. Its called security, if you want to protest, get a permit.
Bill of Rights regards the Rights of the States, and is to protect their rights from being infringed upon by the federal government. Under a literal interpretation of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights does not protect the rights of individuals from the federal government. They were on federal land, so according to a literal interpretation of the Constitution, they had no guaranteed freedom of speech.
The explicit purpose of Amendments 1-9 is to protect the rights and liberties of individuals from encroachment by any governmental body, be it federal, state or local. If it weren't for the Bill of Rights, which is apparently what your historically inaccurate and utterly retarded argument suggests, we would be living in a dungeon...
...and just because you happen to be on federal land doesn't mean that your rights, which are protected by a federal document, vanish.
But since you're a constitutional scholar, I'm sure you realized all of that and were talking about current legal interpretation according to modern supreme court rulings, and not about the original purpose of the constitution. Fair enough.
The Bill of Rights does expressly say "Congress shall make no law...abridging the...right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
So now we can argue as to if their right to peacefully assemble was abridged or not. This can be argued for or against easily.
For: Their right was abridged as it was limited in the scope of anytime/anywhere
Against: Their right was not abridged, as the permits don't get denied, and are there to alert local authorities of the protest. Such alerts are needed so that authorities can create detours for any traffic that might interrupt the event, or for other safety reason.
Next time, remember to buy a permit. It isn't like they would've denied him his permit, the government just has to know people aren't using Federal land for hate speech or inciting a riot or something of that nature.
It's standard procedure.
It just seems like this group is blaming it's lack of proper planning for a demonstration on the establishment rather than their own failure to know proper procedures.
I tend to think the lack of planning was intentional since nothing helps these groups attract members like this sort of theater.
Either that or they only have a superficial grasp of constitutional law. Reasonable restrictions on rights have always been acknowledged.
But maybe, just maybe, they can run a constitutional challenge through the system, and then I can only imagine how psyched they'll be to see my series of freedom-loving, counter-protests outside their homes at 3am each morning.
Show me where in the constitution that it says that we have free speech and the freedom to assemble peacefully ONLY if we have permission(permit).
This is bull. If you people that agree with needing a permit, you haven't learned anything about our country or our rights as citizens. We need permission to do just about everything. Guess what, I pledge to rebel.
The only idiots are the ones that don't understand why this is important. Keep it up YAL, sometimes getting arrested is the only way to get the message out or force illegal laws to be invalidated.
I respect these young Americans right to disagree with any administration especially one that deliberately ignores the will of the citizenry! Down with tyrants down with Obama!
You need a permit because then the city can warn its citizens there will be a congregation of douchebags in a certain area and then they can avoid it at all costs.
What has this country come to, when you need a permit to exercise your free speech. This is not what the founding fathers intended. You wonder why people are yelling at their non-representative, because they have no voice.
@Jimbo898 I believe that you should need a permit if you are blocking a street or performing a parade of some sort. However, to walk up and down a street or standing in front of a public building holding a sign and speaking your peace without blocking anyone or harassing anyone, sorry that cop should have spoke with you to remind you not to hamper anyone's travel or to harass anyone and then left you alone. This is NOT acceptable.
I actually agree with this young man and the protesters that our free speech in this country has been extremely curtailed in recent years.. but it was even worse under Bush and where were these kids then. They were too busy cheerleading the right. It would be interesting to see what was coming out of their mouths about protesters in an era that saw the advent of free speech zones and a general media disregard and belittling of the massive protests that came about.
Actually, armorsex, most of the people involved with this movement don't see things as left vs. right. Rather, they see it as power/tyranny vs. liberty. As such, they are (and were) as critical of Bush as they are of Obama when it comes to violating our individual freedoms.
Permits are a measure enacted by municipalities so that everybody, protesters and non protesters, can exercise their right safely. This particular protest was just a baiting attempt to prove that some jackasses have no regard for the laws they claim to hold so dear. Constitutional Literalism is a joke, espoused by people who choose to cherry pick their readings and interpretations. These same guys probably moan all day about states rights, then beg for their guaranteed protection from the state.
Yes because you have to believe everything that's in the constitution is correct and right. The Fed, SLavery. Let's practice no cherry picking, aka have distinciton between bad laws and good laws. And what did they cherry pick exactly?
LOL "you're gonna be on youtube"... big fucking deal. i hate pigs but uh... you need a fucking permit you dumb fucks (and you still have the right to assemble (with a permit)). fuck i want to kill these spoiled douchebags
Getting a permit means asking for permission and asking for permission means they can say 'No'. And if they can say 'No' then it isn't free speech.
If times get tough in this country, you can be sure that they will say 'No' based on whether the powers that be find your message to be 'constructive' or not.
So where were you guys 6 years ago when Iraq War protesters were getting beaten and jailed, even with legitimate permits? Where were you when Bush started cherry-picking the audiences for his "open town halls" and herding the malcontents into "free speech zones" hundreds of yards away? You were at home watching TV and yukking it up about the "stupid hippies" who would dare question their government. What goes around comes around. Did you think Bush would be president forever?
You need to go to a lawyer and have them draft a statement or something regarding officer's opposition to freedom of speech and assembly. Every time someone tries to disband you like this get them to sign it. You want to put them on the spot and get them to make a sworn statement, in writing, that you don't have the right to demonstrate. If anyone is dumb enough to sign that then take them to court and charge them with perjury.
Disrespecting DC's finest. I thought that was clear. The "star" was disrespectful, sarcastic, and ignorant. The first amendment doesn't give you the right to disrupt traffic or block entrances to public buildings. There are limits. I certainly can't go into Rush's studio with 50 friends and chant "Down with fat hypocrites!" for 3 straight hours. You want to protest? Do it like an adult, not a petulant child.
Umm you know what? We have a right to be disrespectful to gov't officials they are under our consent! And yes you cannot block traffic or entrances, WHICH they were not doing at all. Quit misconstruing the facts you fuckin homo.
And when you are disrespectful to other human beings don't be surprised when the tazer comes out. These cops are just trying to keep the peace for everyone. If you have an issue that you need to protest, that's fine. Just don't get an attitude with those who are just doing their job and not involved in whatever's got a bug up your butt. The first rule of diplomacy is don't argue with the guy with the gun.
Well aren't you a good little citizen. Just obey and cede the point. What right do they have that we cannot disrespect them? I see no where in the Constitution "Respect your government." People can smart off and say fuck you to whoever they want. nothing illegal there, but to respond by physical hurting someone (tazer) is illegal and there is no reasonable justification for it either. I honestly don't understand why one can't get "attitude?"
A peace officer should have the proper training and professionalism to handle people going "fuck you" in his/her face. Not to mention it is irrelevant what is being said at them anyways, other than direct threats to their persons. And what peace exactly was there to keep? Are you saying there was not peace to begin with in the first place? Soley based on what we see, there is no reason to believe there was threatening behavior going on. Maybe some agitation, but hey we all do that.
While I don't agree with what you were protesting I do agree that the limits of free speech that have been placed on us are intolerable. The idea that you have to apply for a permit to say what you want disgusts me. Seargent Dillon shouldn't be fired. All the lawmakers that have allowed this to happen should be fired.
We need to take back our voice America, before we forget how to speak at all.
You guys need to brush up on your Constitutional Law. The Supreme Court has long upheld reasonable content-neutral restrictions on free speech, including requiring a permit to protest. They're called time/place restrictions, and as long as the permits are given without consideration to the subject matter of the speech, a permit requirement for a protest has been upheld as constitutional and not an unreasonable burden on Free Speech.
I'm a fascist because for knowing how the 1st Amendment has been interpreted for the past 220 years? If that's the case, the US has been a fascist state for some 220 years no, so this should be no surprise. Perhaps you should read a little and learn something, rather than spouting off meaningless insults that provide nothing to the converstatoin.
They weren't arrested for speking their mind or assembling peacefully. They were arrested for protesting w/o a permit. The officers asked for a count of participants. The government has a duty to protect the public at large (including the protesters), and prevent disruptions for everyone else, particularly in a city like DC where everyone wants to protest. The government has to weigh the needs of everyone. There's nothing fascist about it, unless they're only stopping one viewpoint.
OMg wake up! that whole protect the protesters other people thing is pure bullshit, it's just an excuse to descensatize us to the idea that gov't calls all the shots. Soon in a time of crisis they will start restricting free speech to certain groups. Why don't you look up S. 773 The Cybersecurites Act. Which Obama is a supporter of, and no i'm not a fan of bush. I'm a libertarian that is for freedom and liberty not for a party. FUCKING CHRIST PEOPLE STOP THINKING IN PARTIES!!!
You are so frustrating! This kind of "kiddy" tactic keeps our country politically divided 50/50 instead of being 70/30 in *our* favor. I'm with you in making noise and keeping our idiot politicians from destroying America. but tactically you're a fool because you won't win the fence sitters. Just get the dammed permit. how hard is that? BTW, when you're staring down a tank from the messiah, I'll be at your side, even if we don't have a permit. Now think! Dammit... THINK!
We are seeing the precursor to the rise of the Anti-Christ!!!
God forbid we're all required to have computer chips implanted in the backs of our hands or in our foreheads for identification and containing all our bank account info. for the ability to buy and sell...
Hang onto your hats, America...we're in for a bumpy ride. Praying people need to start praying immediately.
Hang onto your hats, America...we're in for a bumpy ride. Freedom as we know it is being gradually eradicated.
It should be obvious to anybody with average intelligence that the American Gov´t is run by the illuminati and they are engineering a series of problems that will result in Americans rising up against the Govt and this is what they want so that they can either kill you or put you in a detention camp "Katrina-style" where you will be "well-cared for" and forced to take their vaccines that will kill many. Resist this insane and evil gov´t with everything you have or you will die,fellow Americans
Health care is a right, not a luxery. Private insurance is in the business of denying coverage. We don't have private fire departments, and we shouldn't have private health insurance either. Then we can go back to using emergency rooms for what they were designed for, emergencies.
A right huh? You tell me where in the bill of rights it says that? Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah thats right people like me with JOBS. I'll be damned if I'm payin for some welfare collectin crackhead's medical bills. You sheeple go on keeep taking what ur fed, it's gonna bite u in the ass.
Is that why emergency rooms in countries with socialized health care have waits of hours upon hours?
I agree that something needs to be done about private insurance companies. They are driving the cost of healthcare through the roof. But going socialized isn't the answer. That will only make things worse.
Sgt Dillon was doing what he was ordered, his job. Left to his own accord I'm sure he would have let them alone. However, the young man in the blue shirt and other members of the organization conducted themselves VERY immaturely. You should be ashamed to have posted this video on youtube. Sgt conducted himself very well under the circumstances, while those in your party acted foolishly and failed to comply with simple questions. Had you done so, I'm sure you would have been allowed to remain.
No. the officer was being extremely cocky as well. And threatening to tase (or mace?) someone who is not acting aggressive is definitely stepping over the line. Also, they weren't even breaking the law that he was threatening to arrest them on, so he doesn't have a leg to stand on...
Following orders yes. Doing his job, no. Police (and SWAT) swear an oath to obey and uphold the Constitution, and obstructing these peoples free speech and right to peaceful assembly by citing some lame C.F.R code (not a law, a code) goes against that oath.
The Constitution (and Bill of Rights) were written to protect us from the abuses of government, as soon as people wake up and realize that and stop simply 'following orders' then maybe we can reclaim our lost liberties.
First off, that is not a SWAT team. Those are just officers. Secondly, if they had obtained the proper permit in the first place there would have been no problem.
The reason a permit is required on federal ground is to ensure that the protest is properly organized and does not break out in a riot. In that respect, it is safety issue, not an infringement. However, if a permit were denied due to the intent of the protest, /then/ there would be reason to be upset. Dillion just did his job.
The US Constitution is the highest law of the land dumb ass. The requirement for a permit is actually unconstitutional and would require an amendment to the constitution. Things like permits are designed to erode liberties. Stay in Australia. We don't need more people here supporting tyranny. You ancestors from the UK have done a good fuckin' job implementing a police state gov't as it is.
Requirement of a permit is to prevent repeats of the Bonus Army and other such events of protest that turned violent. Unfortunately, people have turned it to the point that regulation is needed to an extent. All freedoms need some form of regulation, the problem is finding where to draw the line.
"... rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our own will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual"
— Thomas Jefferson
Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authoritythe Constitution was made to guard against the dangers of good intentions.
No, it's not about where the line needs to be drawn...The line is between our rights and liberties and the Government, and that line is the Constitution. It is not to be crossed!
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we need a permit to exercise our rights of free speech and peaceful assembly, so the CFR code is rendered useless, since it tries to affect these rights.
His, and all police officers, job is to PROTECT the Constitution, not walk all over it!
Yes, that's the excuse the government uses, and it's BS. The possession of a permit does not prevent a riot. This not about safety as much as it is a government that does not like criticism.
If begging permission from the government to peaceably assemble require' one to divulge their name or that of their organization, it runs afoul of the constitution.
Their real motivation is plain. They want know what you're protesting before "granting" you the freedom to do so.
That combined with other hoops you have to jump through to exercise other rights, I'm beginning to think the point of these laws is to make it such a burden to exercise our rights that people will be dissuaded from doing so.
America is dead.
panzerkilla 4 months ago
Read the Law that the officer is talking about 36 CFR 7.96. You are on National Park Service grounds and there are exceptions to your right to assemble. You need a permit if you intend on drawing a crowd (which you are if you are shouting). It's for your own safety and the safety of the visitors. There are streets where you are allowed to protest listed on the website, fascist nut jobs.
TheEmpowered787 4 months ago
@TheEmpowered787 So if we pay for a permit then it's ok to draw a crowd and it poses no more danger to anyone,that's crazy, it's the same except we have more money in our pockets rather than the governments.Bad laws are meant to be challenged by the public otherwise they'll write so many codes and statutes you won't be able to scratch yourself without being fined.Oh and stop watching Lamestream media,there are no terrorist's hiding around every corner trying to destroy monuments.Get real!!!!
2wheels88 4 months ago
@2wheels88 Every time I see a demonstration get broken up, it is for the same reason. No permit. Is there a reason(s) why no one gets a permit ahead of the demonstration?? Just once I would like to see someone produce the permit and see what the next "law" being broken is. Someone is afraid of your message!! Not of you as a group; but definitely your message. Get the permit! Play their stupid game and beat them at it. Shake a permit in the face of that little bald swat doughboy. Peace!!
ohannahdad 3 months ago
swat at 1:40: "I'm not ... you don;t have free speech"
wow, one of them actually came out with the truth!
37butterflyprincess 4 months ago
Cops...
Can shut down lemonade stands, SWAT team peaceful protesters, bust potheads, and give speeding tickets.
But taking out druglords, murderers, and thieves while protecting the people?
"Please don't make us do our jobs."
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demented669 5 months ago
You guys are a fucking disgrace to America. You need a permit to demonstrate in order to prevent absolutely chaos. There is the First Amendment, but not everyone can exercise that right at the same time. They are not saying you can't exercise it, but they need you to coordinate and come up with a time and organize yourselves. You guys are a bunch of extremists retards. Go home!
TheEmpowered787 6 months ago
@TheEmpowered787 People peacefully assembling is "chaos"? If you want to see CHAOS look at the riots in Britian where students are smashing windows etc. These young Americans did us proud, and stood up for their constitutional right to freely assemble. Please read the first amendment.
Z0mgZ0mbies 6 months ago
@TheEmpowered787 CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise therof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEABLY (note that word and their actions) ASSEMBLE, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
any law requiring permits to peaceably assemble as these people have is unconstitutional. btw, I don;t neccesarily agree w/ their message against universal healthcare
37butterflyprincess 4 months ago
@37butterflyprincess Yes, but there are restrictions when it comes to public and national security.
TheEmpowered787 4 months ago
@TheEmpowered787 no there are not. those are abridgments. requiring a permit is unconstitutional, plain and simple.
37butterflyprincess 4 months ago
"When injustice becomes law,then Rebellion becomes duty!" -Thomas Jefferson
genzigg386 7 months ago
Where does the constitution say anything about having to get a permit to peaceably assemble? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
undeadpresident 7 months ago
the police are not against you having a peaceful gathering, but unfortunatly some individuals put their interests before the safety of the general public thus creating a hazard.
CapitanBluebeard 7 months ago
you don't need a permit unless you're blocking the road he's just a bully that does'nt like your message!!! Watch Police State documentaries here on youtube all 4 of them they cover the last ten years of police millitarization and training as well as foreign troops training on U.S. soil against Americans in mock trial home invasions and disarming the population.When this happens in Washington youre in more trouble than u think.The first movie is Police State 2000,Police State 2,3 and 4.
2wheels88 7 months ago
@2wheels88
Actually, you're wrong. The National Park Service has special privileges in the District and neighboring Maryland and Virginia. If you live in DC (like I do), you know that you don't mess with the Park Service. They are constantly on the lookout for terrorists to strike the capital's monuments. Thus, under the 36 CFR 7.96 you cannot assemble and draw a crowd without a permit. It's for everyone's safety and allows the police to do their job. You guys don't even know what Socialism is
TheEmpowered787 4 months ago
@TheEmpowered787 No actually the law is wrong a you should'nt put up with it unless you're a fascist and love being stepped on,you can site your codes all day but the constitution crushes your stupid code.Go back to your black opps games and Harry potter books and let the adults take of the real shit you moron.
2wheels88 4 months ago
Its not DC police or more correctly the MPD ( Metropolitan Police Department) it is the US Park Police a federal police arm of the National Park Service.
jvorus 8 months ago
Sgt. Dillion was doing his job. He asked for a permit. He got a sarcastic answer. If a permit is required get it. As for reaching for a taser, that was not shown. All you hear is a sound of velcro. Most taser holsters especially those used by SWAT teams have a hood that filps down and is silent. Second no police officer is going to let you make a phone call while he is talking to you. This kid is a sarcastic little asshole. Note: "It's actually Sgt. Dillion" replied "Thanks alot Officer Dillon"
joem8787 8 months ago
So this is what our country has come to...when peaceful people can not congregate in public without threat of being hauled away to jail. This is not the country I grew up in. Send this video to your friends as its the very reason why you MUST become involved with YAL and the freedom movement. RonPaul 2012
rayallin 11 months ago
this is boring!!!,,,anyone see "dancing with the stars" ??cnn?? or how tiger woods did this season.!!....,,,nothing to see here.move along..!! go back to sleep america...lol
jointops99 1 year ago
@jointops99 SUCK A DICK U FUKN GAY BIRD !!!! HHAAAAHAAA
piffunit88 8 months ago
@piffunit88 just the type of comment youd expect from a child,,or an uneducated fool who"s been brain washed all his life..wish i could say i feel pity for you,but i dont.!! lol.
jointops99 8 months ago
thats a cool truck!!!
DeusMalleus 1 year ago
The requirement was struck down by the courts in August 2010.
Babica2040 1 year ago
"No right is safe unless citizens are willing to exercise and defend it."
-Paul Greenberg
Gamermatt99 1 year ago
f'#@king unbelieverble,why has this happened what is wrong with people .they sent an armered personnel carrier to take on kids,if i was US parent i would walk on washington.Its is not long till the company complete the circle and everything is netted
specialme2 1 year ago
Know your rights [before] you start protesting and [before] you are confronted by 'public servants'.
zvastianx 1 year ago
@zvastianx
They did know their rights... They have a right to free speech.
"Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech"
Aliothemage 1 year ago
A political chapter needs to be respectful of social servants, not act like everyone is their enemy.
thisguyoverhere1 1 year ago
lol fail.
FixedNewsChannel 1 year ago
Fucking idiots. "Say no to socialism, say yes to freedom." You dont like the new reform, leave the fucking country. That way you'll save all of us headaches and we can actually enjoy our time on the national mall. I'm tired of trying to playing sports down there and hearing all the protesters yelling all the time. Protesting at national parks should be outlawed.
JayneCobbsHat 1 year ago
If you are being funny/sarcastic then, well done. If you are serious you are a total idiot.
mmtot 1 year ago
@JayneCobbsHat
"You dont like the new reform, leave the fucking country"
The Nazis said the same things to the Jews as they eroded their rights. The Mafia says the same thing to those in their neighborhoods that they charge "protection" to.
We are human beings and we deserve freedom, not a choice between slavery here or exile and slavery elsewhere.
And do you seriously think playing some sport is more important then these young people pursuing their civic duty of protesting big government?
Aliothemage 1 year ago
The last comment was retarded. No, that truck shouldn't be in Iraq. What kind of liberty are you supporting? The people in Iraq deserve those trucks?
zemnodis 1 year ago
thats not a dc police officer and thats not swat thats a us park police officer and a us pack police k-9 unit
44altecz 1 year ago
@44altecz You are right that was not a DC officer but he is Park Police SWAT.
Tacrag 1 year ago
P.S.: If there we're less than 25 people there, it's perfectly legal, even within the unconstitutional law.
(i) Demonstrations involving 25 persons or fewer may be held without a permit provided that the other conditions required for the issuance of a permit are met and provided further that the group is not merely an extension of another group already availing itself of the 25-person maximum under this provision or will not unreasonably interfere with other demonstrations or special events.
imanerd36 1 year ago
Where is the constitution does it day you have to get a permit to exercise free speech? Doesn't the government decide if they want to issue permits or not kind of defeat the whole point of being able to speak out against the government? I don't support what they are saying but they have right to say it.
"You do not have free Speech."- Yep sums up the gestapo, sorry, DC police quite well.
imanerd36 1 year ago
Yall need to stop being mean to cops. She was just doing her job.
gildo682 1 year ago
yeah for real... they are doing their jobs... treat them like one of you and you will open their eyes to the bullshit they enforce... we have to attack the correct power structures... and part of that is bringing over the police and military in support of the people not the corruption
polishfarmer 1 year ago
@gildo682 And when you work for Jeffery Dahmer and he employs you to recruit young men to bring to his residence, I guess you will give the same brain dead response won't you?
residentzombie 1 year ago
@residentzombie my anus is bleeding.
gildo682 1 year ago
Just get a permit! Then exercise your 1st amend't rights to your heart's content! The reason they have groups acquire permits is so that order & safety (including your safety) can be maintained.
If the Klan, the NAACP, a Socialist group and your group all showed up on that corner..there would be pandemonium!!
Get a permit so the police know what group is coming, at what time & how many officers and EMTs to have so your group of 20 doesn't get mobbed by a100 person 'Public Option' group.
Henrymph 1 year ago
Henry, you get permits from the city not the police. If you listen to the video, the cops had no idea the other protesters had a permit until they asked them.
Permits exist to limit demonstrations, not benefit demonstrators.
Requiring police to attend every demonstration in case there is a fight is like having a cop sit on your doorstep in case your robbed, its unnecessary, a waste of tax dollars, and a waste of law enforcement's time.
jghenike 1 year ago
Nice try... apply to the city, tell them you're going to have a demonstration of 200 people and I promise the city will have cops & EMT there just like they did for the 'million man march' 'the march on washington' 'the stop the war' demonstration and so on...
Henrymph 1 year ago
To Henrymph: "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson........Plus it really has nothing to do with safety it's about control. If you have to ask for permission it is no longer a right it is a privelege, they are slowly but surely stripping our rights away.
FistsOfFury21 1 year ago
i agree 100%... we need to change this shit... the internet generation are the enlightened ones... we have to rise up and change the laws noone will do it for us...
polishfarmer 1 year ago
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Henrymph 1 year ago
If you stay on the sidewalk around the Mall, how can they say you are on National Park property? Another thing, seems to me they made this national park land precisely so they could limit access to it. It's a vague memory, I could be wrong, but try to look it up. They are way out of line, but this is par for the course isn't it?
boatbrain2 1 year ago 2
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For god sakes dumbasses, just fucking cooperate with the DC park service. Every group has to have a permit. You guys are fucking retarded.
Champraves311 1 year ago
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Champraves311 1 year ago
u guys are faggots
think4everyone 1 year ago
This is a propaganda video made to antagonize. If free speech is for everyone, why cant the Officer tell the unathletic male to kiss his axx. Why would he have to reach for a tazer on a Liberal? They are not a physical threat. And it is not DC Police, which is made to be slanderous against the DC Police, who were not invloved in any way. We need a Los Pepes squad! Look it up!
mpdarch 2 years ago
These are the freedoms we are losing with Obama. It's
amazing that people can't see he is turning this into a
socialist country. Wake up America.....and GOD HELP
AMERICA.
2egypt 2 years ago
I can't believe the "Young American for Liberty" didn't know that you can't demonstrate on Capitol grounds. I think I discussed that in my entry level poli sci class freshmen year. There are plenty of great spots to demonstrate in DC where people will see you. And if that's not good enough, get a permit.
Young Americans for Liberty should research that kind of thing first. The club shouldn't only consist of poster coloring time and attempting to scare a veteran cop who knows the rules.
Deej1188 2 years ago
Deej1188,
The actual law states that if you have over 25 people actively involved in your demonstration you must have a permit. This has nothing to do with being at the capitol. They were within their rights and their rights were violated. Next time do your research before you comment. And the group leader was right, the 1st amendment protects free speech and states the NO laws may be made abridging it so all laws restricting speech are unconstitutional. Read your constitution.
wearechangeoc 2 years ago 2
@wearechangeoc I see. I only thought they were on capitol grounds because another comment stated that.
So why did they leave? If they had less than 25 people (which it looked like they did), wouldn't it have been better to stand up to the cop? He says hes going to haul you and all of your friends to jail. So why not let him try to book you on nothing?
The leader never says I have under 25 people and I don't need a permit. He just argues that requiring a permit is impeding on his rights.
Deej1188 2 years ago
I can't believe that asshole reached for his tazer.
BankScamTakeover 2 years ago
Why should it be in iraq? What did they do to deserve the American occupation.
cdimmm 2 years ago 6
I think Srg. Dillion did a good job. They didn't have a permit. Those are the rules. Doesn't matter if your conservative or progressive. If the protesters wanted to prove their resolve they could of allowed themselves to be arrested, clearly they had none. Or they could of protested off Capitol grounds.
chasingsirens528 2 years ago 2
I dont know why we obey unconstitutional laws.I would of went to jail for what I believe.I would not carry any Identification either.If they tried to book me that would be very funny with out a name.I would be out of jail in 24hours.
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JaredC0022 2 years ago
Officer Dillion is a traitor to the Constitution.Plain and Simple.
brder4ev 2 years ago
Dillion the kop ought to have been given a
beat down for his stupidity.
ewkeane 2 years ago
these pussies (with all due respect) should have made the police take them to jail to prove a point
HereticNix 2 years ago
@HereticNix
I would have went to jail too.
dollygracielou 2 years ago
who are these twats
koki4o 2 years ago
That legal section applies to organized demonstrations, ie groups. He doesnt look like a group to me!
jbird0168 2 years ago
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drewgore21 2 years ago
that Officer Dillon has lost sight of what he is being employed by the people to do. HE IS THERE TO SERVE AND PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. He swore an oath to that effect. Instead of protecting their rights to free speech he threatens the peaceful protesters with jail. Brainwashed to follow the orders of his slaves. LAw enforcement have been conditioned to see the people as suspects and as 'the enemy'. Their job is to keep the people safe but they don't know what that means anymore.
playonwords55 2 years ago
Cops swore to defend the Constitution. Many of them have no idea what that means.
jct181 2 years ago
they can protest all they want...go get a fuckin permit...the constitution doesnt protect a bunch of d-bags standing on a street corner taking up the fuckin sidewalk...just go get a fuckin permit....thats everywhere not just dc...dc makes it easier than almost any other place in the country to protest...and i know everyone here hates cops...until they need them....seriously grow the fuck up
finck123 2 years ago
Lol u really are lost arent you. The very essence of the constitution is to protect the rights of douchebags! It certainly wasnt meant to protect the already protected. I mean hello! It was meant to protect minority rights! seriously bro think before you right man. Now cmon come back at me with something good.
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
hey sgt dillon your a little puss
spineadjuster13 2 years ago
omg why do the nerds stay wanting to get smart with police....mannn they need girlfriends..an jobs instead of standing on a street with a poster
7domonic7 2 years ago
yeah their a nerd for defending your liberities! You're warped in the head.
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
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finck123 2 years ago
the kid is right about the permit. He should not have to comply with laws that violate his first amendment rights. But nothing will get done if nobody makes a stand for liberty. Stand firm and do not comply, make them have to physically come cuff and arrest you.
MonkEboy626 2 years ago
This is stupid. The loudest message in this video is that Young Americans for Liberty are not intelligent or organized enough to put on a proper protest; also demonstrated they have too much tenage angst to show respect to a police officer. Well done!
rackrupp 2 years ago
Oh so they had no respect for the officer? Even though the officer had no respect for their first amendment right? Wow works both ways ya know.
Trevor: Can I make a phone call?
Cop: No you can leave right now!
Yeah really so much respect there.
DOn't be so biased and big gov't cheerleader, the disrespect was mutual. And also to note, perhaps being able to protest without having to get gov't permission is something they take close to heart. Ever consider that?
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
Get a permit.
TheCrystalRiver 2 years ago
And coward america stands down to the dumb nazi's again.
NBaimf 2 years ago
1) What's up with the subtitles when it says that the officer is reaching for his taser, no cop would have the taser in a holster that he has to bend over to reach, so obviously whoever made the subtitles is either a) a moron, or b) wants to tarnish the reputation of the dc police, and 2) if that idiotic kid at the end seriously thinks that the truck was sent out specifically to stop them, he needs a reality check. Its called security, if you want to protest, get a permit.
meteora848 2 years ago
keep it up.
MeDammitt 2 years ago
At 2:52. The demonstrator said the constitution is the higest power of law. The are all equal.
Rostaboch 2 years ago
to bad you guys didnt have permit and them no good peta guys did. Get a permit next time and ill join you, lol
convertibleboy 2 years ago
Bill of Rights regards the Rights of the States, and is to protect their rights from being infringed upon by the federal government. Under a literal interpretation of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights does not protect the rights of individuals from the federal government. They were on federal land, so according to a literal interpretation of the Constitution, they had no guaranteed freedom of speech.
VirgilOrion 2 years ago
The explicit purpose of Amendments 1-9 is to protect the rights and liberties of individuals from encroachment by any governmental body, be it federal, state or local. If it weren't for the Bill of Rights, which is apparently what your historically inaccurate and utterly retarded argument suggests, we would be living in a dungeon...
...and just because you happen to be on federal land doesn't mean that your rights, which are protected by a federal document, vanish.
xpostal1289x 2 years ago
Furthermore, the Bill of Rights expressly protects the right to peaceably assemble anywhere...
You should try reading the Constitution some time...then your "interpretation" might actually make sense.
xpostal1289x 2 years ago
But since you're a constitutional scholar, I'm sure you realized all of that and were talking about current legal interpretation according to modern supreme court rulings, and not about the original purpose of the constitution. Fair enough.
The Bill of Rights does expressly say "Congress shall make no law...abridging the...right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
VirgilOrion 2 years ago
So now we can argue as to if their right to peacefully assemble was abridged or not. This can be argued for or against easily.
For: Their right was abridged as it was limited in the scope of anytime/anywhere
Against: Their right was not abridged, as the permits don't get denied, and are there to alert local authorities of the protest. Such alerts are needed so that authorities can create detours for any traffic that might interrupt the event, or for other safety reason.
VirgilOrion 2 years ago
Next time, remember to buy a permit. It isn't like they would've denied him his permit, the government just has to know people aren't using Federal land for hate speech or inciting a riot or something of that nature.
It's standard procedure.
It just seems like this group is blaming it's lack of proper planning for a demonstration on the establishment rather than their own failure to know proper procedures.
Willatron 2 years ago
I tend to think the lack of planning was intentional since nothing helps these groups attract members like this sort of theater.
Either that or they only have a superficial grasp of constitutional law. Reasonable restrictions on rights have always been acknowledged.
But maybe, just maybe, they can run a constitutional challenge through the system, and then I can only imagine how psyched they'll be to see my series of freedom-loving, counter-protests outside their homes at 3am each morning.
sirdrsmithesq 2 years ago
We do allow it, it's called CAIR
moredimoi 2 years ago
Show me where in the constitution that it says that we have free speech and the freedom to assemble peacefully ONLY if we have permission(permit).
This is bull. If you people that agree with needing a permit, you haven't learned anything about our country or our rights as citizens. We need permission to do just about everything. Guess what, I pledge to rebel.
gwana8919 2 years ago
The only idiots are the ones that don't understand why this is important. Keep it up YAL, sometimes getting arrested is the only way to get the message out or force illegal laws to be invalidated.
n2q 2 years ago
Idiots.
blitzik 2 years ago
Oh you don't have to describe yourself on youtube to everyone.. =]
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
I respect these young Americans right to disagree with any administration especially one that deliberately ignores the will of the citizenry! Down with tyrants down with Obama!
almondtealeaf2 2 years ago
You need a permit because then the city can warn its citizens there will be a congregation of douchebags in a certain area and then they can avoid it at all costs.
IslandCityJuiceBox25 2 years ago
What has this country come to, when you need a permit to exercise your free speech. This is not what the founding fathers intended. You wonder why people are yelling at their non-representative, because they have no voice.
Jimbo898 2 years ago 11
@Jimbo898 I believe that you should need a permit if you are blocking a street or performing a parade of some sort. However, to walk up and down a street or standing in front of a public building holding a sign and speaking your peace without blocking anyone or harassing anyone, sorry that cop should have spoke with you to remind you not to hamper anyone's travel or to harass anyone and then left you alone. This is NOT acceptable.
TheGrayman1234 1 year ago
@TheGrayman1234 You are correct.
VerifiedNews 10 months ago
Actually, where in the US Constitution does it say that permits are required to exercise free speech.... that was the point, and it IS a big deal.
Permits like this are just another HIDDEN TAX in an attempt to suppress the right to peacefully assemble and free speech.
tugofwargame 2 years ago 3
I actually agree with this young man and the protesters that our free speech in this country has been extremely curtailed in recent years.. but it was even worse under Bush and where were these kids then. They were too busy cheerleading the right. It would be interesting to see what was coming out of their mouths about protesters in an era that saw the advent of free speech zones and a general media disregard and belittling of the massive protests that came about.
armorsex 2 years ago
Actually, armorsex, most of the people involved with this movement don't see things as left vs. right. Rather, they see it as power/tyranny vs. liberty. As such, they are (and were) as critical of Bush as they are of Obama when it comes to violating our individual freedoms.
myopicrhino 2 years ago
Permits are a measure enacted by municipalities so that everybody, protesters and non protesters, can exercise their right safely. This particular protest was just a baiting attempt to prove that some jackasses have no regard for the laws they claim to hold so dear. Constitutional Literalism is a joke, espoused by people who choose to cherry pick their readings and interpretations. These same guys probably moan all day about states rights, then beg for their guaranteed protection from the state.
viator22 2 years ago
Yes because you have to believe everything that's in the constitution is correct and right. The Fed, SLavery. Let's practice no cherry picking, aka have distinciton between bad laws and good laws. And what did they cherry pick exactly?
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
LOL "you're gonna be on youtube"... big fucking deal. i hate pigs but uh... you need a fucking permit you dumb fucks (and you still have the right to assemble (with a permit)). fuck i want to kill these spoiled douchebags
shitnrun 2 years ago
Getting a permit means asking for permission and asking for permission means they can say 'No'. And if they can say 'No' then it isn't free speech.
If times get tough in this country, you can be sure that they will say 'No' based on whether the powers that be find your message to be 'constructive' or not.
svenp 2 years ago 3
being a white rich boy faggot doesn't help his case any when it comes to whether or not he should be murdered
shitnrun 2 years ago
I hate the pigs and all, but i wish they just murdered this little bitch ass.
shitnrun 2 years ago
getting permits to assemble and shit is totally cool when there's a republican in the white house, but now it's TOTAL FASCISM
shitnrun 2 years ago
Seargent waxhead shit for brains is a donut puncher.
mysticphoebos 2 years ago
So where were you guys 6 years ago when Iraq War protesters were getting beaten and jailed, even with legitimate permits? Where were you when Bush started cherry-picking the audiences for his "open town halls" and herding the malcontents into "free speech zones" hundreds of yards away? You were at home watching TV and yukking it up about the "stupid hippies" who would dare question their government. What goes around comes around. Did you think Bush would be president forever?
SAGEBOT500 2 years ago
The YAL is a libertarian group who also protested the Iraq War. Try googling Adam Kokesh, who has spoken at several YAL events.
vendetta71000 2 years ago
More guts then u pyrite
ConflictingTruth 2 years ago
or i was just really high and it was on in the background without my knowledge.
mandroid87 2 years ago
libertarians listen to the number 12 looks like you, apparently.
mandroid87 2 years ago
lol you stupid cunts should be ashamed of yourselves. Your country is a joke and you got what you deserved for being a citizen.
mourningdue 2 years ago
Next time call 202-619-7225 and request a permit to demonstrate on the National Mall you big crybabies.
keshiklabs 2 years ago 3
FEDERAL ZONE - look it up. Congress has exclusive legislative powers. Not one of the States of the Union. Corporate UNITED STATES.
PwndByTheFed 2 years ago 2
You need to go to a lawyer and have them draft a statement or something regarding officer's opposition to freedom of speech and assembly. Every time someone tries to disband you like this get them to sign it. You want to put them on the spot and get them to make a sworn statement, in writing, that you don't have the right to demonstrate. If anyone is dumb enough to sign that then take them to court and charge them with perjury.
17Spartacus76 2 years ago
A Disgusting act by jackbooted thugs supporting years of authoritarian rules designed to quash individual liberties.
Thanks to these fine young people for standing up for liberty. Get the nonsensical permit next time and blow it up to poster size.
dmckalip 2 years ago
All I saw was a bunch of young punks disrespecting DC's finest. 1 star for lack of permits.
pyrite13 2 years ago
What were these men and women doing that lead you to label them punks?
saul1084 2 years ago
Disrespecting DC's finest. I thought that was clear. The "star" was disrespectful, sarcastic, and ignorant. The first amendment doesn't give you the right to disrupt traffic or block entrances to public buildings. There are limits. I certainly can't go into Rush's studio with 50 friends and chant "Down with fat hypocrites!" for 3 straight hours. You want to protest? Do it like an adult, not a petulant child.
pyrite13 2 years ago
Umm you know what? We have a right to be disrespectful to gov't officials they are under our consent! And yes you cannot block traffic or entrances, WHICH they were not doing at all. Quit misconstruing the facts you fuckin homo.
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
And when you are disrespectful to other human beings don't be surprised when the tazer comes out. These cops are just trying to keep the peace for everyone. If you have an issue that you need to protest, that's fine. Just don't get an attitude with those who are just doing their job and not involved in whatever's got a bug up your butt. The first rule of diplomacy is don't argue with the guy with the gun.
pyrite13 2 years ago
Well aren't you a good little citizen. Just obey and cede the point. What right do they have that we cannot disrespect them? I see no where in the Constitution "Respect your government." People can smart off and say fuck you to whoever they want. nothing illegal there, but to respond by physical hurting someone (tazer) is illegal and there is no reasonable justification for it either. I honestly don't understand why one can't get "attitude?"
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
cont.
A peace officer should have the proper training and professionalism to handle people going "fuck you" in his/her face. Not to mention it is irrelevant what is being said at them anyways, other than direct threats to their persons. And what peace exactly was there to keep? Are you saying there was not peace to begin with in the first place? Soley based on what we see, there is no reason to believe there was threatening behavior going on. Maybe some agitation, but hey we all do that.
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
Keeping the peace? What threat was there against the peace? I want you to tell me explicitly and straight up how they were disrupting the peace?
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
Unlawful assembly and refusing to cooperate with law enforcement officials....in a whiny and sad manner, which is why no one got arrested.
pyrite13 2 years ago 2
I hate cops
piscesgutt 2 years ago
While I don't agree with what you were protesting I do agree that the limits of free speech that have been placed on us are intolerable. The idea that you have to apply for a permit to say what you want disgusts me. Seargent Dillon shouldn't be fired. All the lawmakers that have allowed this to happen should be fired.
We need to take back our voice America, before we forget how to speak at all.
Skyeking0 2 years ago 4
Aparatchik tool Dillon 886 should have his badge revoked for trampling on the rights of free citizens to peacefully protest.
And sell that fucking tank and pay some city debts with it you losers.
MadSmokerBBQ 2 years ago
good shit though on the demonstration
kybuRz101 2 years ago
they should not have stopped...
kybuRz101 2 years ago 2
wow... well done guys.. thats hard hitting and spine chilling to watch.. and i live in Scotland..
the fact u were seriously gonna get arrested for standing peacefully is shocking! :(
the internet is helping you guys win the war... bigstyle.. if all we had was mainstreem tv. . . well.... thank god for the Internet!!! :)
know your rights!
keep up the awsome inspirational work
mrbassman25 2 years ago 3
this is when you get a crowd too big to handle and PROTEST.
sepr8te1 2 years ago
You guys need to brush up on your Constitutional Law. The Supreme Court has long upheld reasonable content-neutral restrictions on free speech, including requiring a permit to protest. They're called time/place restrictions, and as long as the permits are given without consideration to the subject matter of the speech, a permit requirement for a protest has been upheld as constitutional and not an unreasonable burden on Free Speech.
JoZeppy71 2 years ago
You're a fucking fascist.
piscesgutt 2 years ago
I'm a fascist because for knowing how the 1st Amendment has been interpreted for the past 220 years? If that's the case, the US has been a fascist state for some 220 years no, so this should be no surprise. Perhaps you should read a little and learn something, rather than spouting off meaningless insults that provide nothing to the converstatoin.
JoZeppy71 2 years ago 3
Arresting people for speaking their mind or assembling peacefully is fascist, period.
piscesgutt 2 years ago
They weren't arrested for speking their mind or assembling peacefully. They were arrested for protesting w/o a permit. The officers asked for a count of participants. The government has a duty to protect the public at large (including the protesters), and prevent disruptions for everyone else, particularly in a city like DC where everyone wants to protest. The government has to weigh the needs of everyone. There's nothing fascist about it, unless they're only stopping one viewpoint.
JoZeppy71 2 years ago
OMg wake up! that whole protect the protesters other people thing is pure bullshit, it's just an excuse to descensatize us to the idea that gov't calls all the shots. Soon in a time of crisis they will start restricting free speech to certain groups. Why don't you look up S. 773 The Cybersecurites Act. Which Obama is a supporter of, and no i'm not a fan of bush. I'm a libertarian that is for freedom and liberty not for a party. FUCKING CHRIST PEOPLE STOP THINKING IN PARTIES!!!
Spazzfrom1989 2 years ago
getting permits to assemble =/= fascist.
AndroidPolitician 2 years ago
You are so frustrating! This kind of "kiddy" tactic keeps our country politically divided 50/50 instead of being 70/30 in *our* favor. I'm with you in making noise and keeping our idiot politicians from destroying America. but tactically you're a fool because you won't win the fence sitters. Just get the dammed permit. how hard is that? BTW, when you're staring down a tank from the messiah, I'll be at your side, even if we don't have a permit. Now think! Dammit... THINK!
iamharryshell 2 years ago
We are seeing the precursor to the rise of the Anti-Christ!!!
God forbid we're all required to have computer chips implanted in the backs of our hands or in our foreheads for identification and containing all our bank account info. for the ability to buy and sell...
Hang onto your hats, America...we're in for a bumpy ride. Praying people need to start praying immediately.
Hang onto your hats, America...we're in for a bumpy ride. Freedom as we know it is being gradually eradicated.
mrskater94 2 years ago
Aunt jemima needs to get back in the kitchen and cook me some pancakes!
And that wanna be Vin Diesal should go street race or something.
Repomex01 2 years ago
how many are there who agree withyou? that's profiling and discriminatory. did they do the same for others? do they?
longhornblondie99 2 years ago
make him taeser you next time, then bring guns to your next protest
mnoyes 2 years ago
Conservative Truth sent this out in a link in their newsletter...
It is another sad day in America
mrdeleted 2 years ago
God damn we're going to lose this fuckin' country.
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2009ForJesus 2 years ago
It should be obvious to anybody with average intelligence that the American Gov´t is run by the illuminati and they are engineering a series of problems that will result in Americans rising up against the Govt and this is what they want so that they can either kill you or put you in a detention camp "Katrina-style" where you will be "well-cared for" and forced to take their vaccines that will kill many. Resist this insane and evil gov´t with everything you have or you will die,fellow Americans
RJames111 2 years ago
Health care is a right, not a luxery. Private insurance is in the business of denying coverage. We don't have private fire departments, and we shouldn't have private health insurance either. Then we can go back to using emergency rooms for what they were designed for, emergencies.
gtonline 2 years ago
A right huh? You tell me where in the bill of rights it says that? Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah thats right people like me with JOBS. I'll be damned if I'm payin for some welfare collectin crackhead's medical bills. You sheeple go on keeep taking what ur fed, it's gonna bite u in the ass.
M249SAWzALL 2 years ago
Is that why emergency rooms in countries with socialized health care have waits of hours upon hours?
I agree that something needs to be done about private insurance companies. They are driving the cost of healthcare through the roof. But going socialized isn't the answer. That will only make things worse.
bldgy 2 years ago
Sgt Dillon was doing what he was ordered, his job. Left to his own accord I'm sure he would have let them alone. However, the young man in the blue shirt and other members of the organization conducted themselves VERY immaturely. You should be ashamed to have posted this video on youtube. Sgt conducted himself very well under the circumstances, while those in your party acted foolishly and failed to comply with simple questions. Had you done so, I'm sure you would have been allowed to remain.
SableSymphony 2 years ago
No. the officer was being extremely cocky as well. And threatening to tase (or mace?) someone who is not acting aggressive is definitely stepping over the line. Also, they weren't even breaking the law that he was threatening to arrest them on, so he doesn't have a leg to stand on...
bldgy 2 years ago
Following orders yes. Doing his job, no. Police (and SWAT) swear an oath to obey and uphold the Constitution, and obstructing these peoples free speech and right to peaceful assembly by citing some lame C.F.R code (not a law, a code) goes against that oath.
The Constitution (and Bill of Rights) were written to protect us from the abuses of government, as soon as people wake up and realize that and stop simply 'following orders' then maybe we can reclaim our lost liberties.
ZeLVaR 2 years ago
First off, that is not a SWAT team. Those are just officers. Secondly, if they had obtained the proper permit in the first place there would have been no problem.
The reason a permit is required on federal ground is to ensure that the protest is properly organized and does not break out in a riot. In that respect, it is safety issue, not an infringement. However, if a permit were denied due to the intent of the protest, /then/ there would be reason to be upset. Dillion just did his job.
SableSymphony 2 years ago
The US Constitution is the highest law of the land dumb ass. The requirement for a permit is actually unconstitutional and would require an amendment to the constitution. Things like permits are designed to erode liberties. Stay in Australia. We don't need more people here supporting tyranny. You ancestors from the UK have done a good fuckin' job implementing a police state gov't as it is.
onebrandofdemocracy 2 years ago
Requirement of a permit is to prevent repeats of the Bonus Army and other such events of protest that turned violent. Unfortunately, people have turned it to the point that regulation is needed to an extent. All freedoms need some form of regulation, the problem is finding where to draw the line.
SableSymphony 2 years ago
I draw the line when my own gov't flies planes into buildings. You can live in tyranny. I choose freedom.
onebrandofdemocracy 2 years ago 2
"... rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our own will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual"
— Thomas Jefferson
Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authoritythe Constitution was made to guard against the dangers of good intentions.
~ Noah Webster
bldgy 2 years ago
" 'Necessity' is the plea for every infringement of human liberty; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
~William Pitt
bldgy 2 years ago 2
No, it's not about where the line needs to be drawn...The line is between our rights and liberties and the Government, and that line is the Constitution. It is not to be crossed!
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we need a permit to exercise our rights of free speech and peaceful assembly, so the CFR code is rendered useless, since it tries to affect these rights.
His, and all police officers, job is to PROTECT the Constitution, not walk all over it!
ZeLVaR 2 years ago 5
Yes, that's the excuse the government uses, and it's BS. The possession of a permit does not prevent a riot. This not about safety as much as it is a government that does not like criticism.
If begging permission from the government to peaceably assemble require' one to divulge their name or that of their organization, it runs afoul of the constitution.
Their real motivation is plain. They want know what you're protesting before "granting" you the freedom to do so.
liberty2001 2 years ago
That combined with other hoops you have to jump through to exercise other rights, I'm beginning to think the point of these laws is to make it such a burden to exercise our rights that people will be dissuaded from doing so.
bldgy 2 years ago