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  • I don't care much for arguing which interpretation of the Bible is correct or not, I am more interested in whether Christianity overall is real or not. So Christians, how about providing some MODERN evidence for your God? Keep in mind, using argument like "look, science can't give us an answer to this, so therefore God did it" is invalid.

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  • Gods hand is not like our hand. We are physical.

  • @kobidobidog While god is imaginary.

  • The human animal will say things no animal will ever say. In that instance a donkey spoke to Balaam. When we behold Jesus petty arguments will not be spoken. I don't even think of them. Ecc 9:18 17The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools. 18Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good. Waring is not using good judgment. What has man done? laugh at the KJV, and ignored that passage. Humans is not use good judgment.

  • Why does it bother you guys so much that we believe these "ridiculas stories." If it is just a book then its not hurting you Atheists in any way. My religion is not baced around proof it is baced around faith. The bible says to worship the Lord now and all your problems will befixed later. This includes the issue of proof! Trust in the Lord and He shows Himself to u:-)

  • @JesusFreak5101 "its not hurting you Atheists in any way", tell that to the victims of the spanish inquisition, those burned at the stake (like Giordano Bruno) or silenced (Galileo Galilei). The list does not stop there.

    "not baced (sic) around proof it is baced around faith", yes, ignore all logic n reason, just believe whatever we tell you. that's how u get fleeced by evangelists flying around in jets.

    "He shows Himself to u", u need to see a doctor!

  • antichrist right here, deciever, no one knows absolute truth so there is always going to b a religion, if u want to know the truth , or choose something u want to stick with examine it first, seek truth, study all the beliefs if u like, before he puts in to u his own beliefs! what he is saying is just his own understandin, true understandin comes when u truly sick it.

  • Great video!!

  • Wow! The Bible predicted hundereds of year before hand the Coming of Jesus to redeem the Jewish people and the re establishment of their own country Israel more closer to our time and this goat is trying to tell you that it isn't true? You were NEVER a Christian so do not say that you ever were. GOAT.

  • @VitoBandito1 yes

    a book predicted something that happened later in the book

    if only we could do that with modern books

    oh wait

  • @bobmuffins Man, you people are completely comical. It didn't happen within the book, it happened in history within a time span of hundreds of years. I get that it's pretty hard to understand since you guys don't have anything can predict the future with certainty. What do you got? Astrology? LOL

  • @VitoBandito1 you realize the jews went back to isreal because the old testament said they would right

    does the bible have any predictions that came true can't be fulfilled by humans

    no

  • @bobmuffins I don't know, did they? Don't know where they went and don't care. The Bible isn't about the Jews. It's about Jesus. Jesus was predicted in the Bible hundereds of years before arrival. If He was a mere human, you be the judge.

  • @VitoBandito1 you are aware that monty python's "life of brian" is more historically accurate right

    there were literally hundreds of messiahs walking around

    and "jesus" is basically the equivalent of modern "josh"- a pretty damn common name

    that's a really really insignificant prediction

  • @bobmuffins I am not aware of that Robert, no, but thanks for the enlightenment... I liked Dave Allen At Large, actually. Ok, how did Jesus know that he would be betrayed into the hands of men? Was he just really really intelligent?

  • @VitoBandito1 jesus tried to get himself crucified- when he 'cast out the money changers'? yeah, that was illegal

    he then began hiding from authorities

    not hard to guess when you're running from cops and there's a bounty on your head the greedy guy in your group would sell you out

  • @bobmuffins Bob, you are very entertaining! Was Jesus really hiding or were the authorities incompetent in that they could find him without an infomant?

  • @VitoBandito1 either works

    either way jesus was playing into the predictions on purpose, not hard to do

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  • @VitoBandito1 so since i can't see your comment here, i'm gonna assume you deleted it- so here it is

    "@bobmuffins Did he ask for the method of execution to be crucifixion or was it just a mere coincidence that He Himself made a living by hammering nails into wood?"

    he committed a crime punishable by crucifixion because it was prophesied he'd be crucified. simple. the carpentry thing is a coincidence that's irrelevant, since the fact he's a SON OF, not a carpenter is mentioned once

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  • @VitoBandito1 okay now i can't see your or my comments

    thanks youtube

    and here's a little secret that renders your entire point about him being a carpenter null-

    he didn't exist

    not one of the approximately 30 historians of the first century, not even josephus, wrote about him and his apostles

    and before you go "YES JOSEPHUS DID"- his writings about jesus are widely accepted amongst historians to be a forgery

    sorry

  • @bobmuffins Stop apologizing all the time. But you admitted that He overturned the tables on the money changers, and that He knew that He would be killed. Sounds an awful lot to me like you are talking about a person who existed. And besides, I would take the Word of God over the word of 10,000 historians.

  • @VitoBandito1 you realize i'm saying that as though he existed right

    it's called hypotheticals

    "And besides, I would take the Word of God over the word of 10,000 historians."

    so what has you believing christianity is right instead of, say, islam

    and just what form of evidence would make you stop believing

  • @bobmuffins What would make me stop believing is the moment I believed that He is not the Way and the Truth and that He is not the only One through which eternal life could be obtained by grace. You don't really believe that He did not exist or else you wouldn't be wasting your time attacking the Bible. If he didn't exist then the let it be. What threat are the delusions of dreamers to you?

  • @VitoBandito1 ":You don't really believe that He did not exist or else you wouldn't be wasting your time attacking the Bible"

    False.

    I attack the bible because bible believers attack me. I'm sorry, but getting mad because I won't let you punch me in the face without me fighting back? Fuck you!

    How do bible believers attack me?

    I'm a bisexual, transgender female. Bible believers think:

    1) I shouldn't be allowed to marry who I love

    2) I shouldn't be allowed to be who I actually am.

    Fuck that.

  • @bobmuffins I would never pass any judgment on you for being transgender nor for being a non believer. You'll get none of that from me, ever. Jesus never judged anyone.  He actually dumbfounded his followers by associating and even eating with people that they would have considered unclean according to their religious teachings. As a Christian I can relate to being marginalized and sometimes even despised. There is a reason God fixed it like that, so that we wouldn't be proud.

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  • @VitoBandito1 The Pharisees had comtempt for others while holding themselves in high esteem, an attitude that Jesus hates.

  • @VitoBandito1 Oh, you're one of those christians who actually read the bible and actually pays attention to what Jesus said instead of using their religion as an excuse to hate people despite not knowing what the religion actually says!

    I've got no real problems with you then! I'm a bit confused as to why you're a christian, but hey, it's not hurting me at all.

  • @bobmuffins We'll we're all a bit crazy, right? Why I'm a Christian? Good question. it's not because I like torturing myself that's for sure. It's not because I'm holier than thou, I can assure you I have my faults and temptations that I struggle with. I would sooner not have to be bothered with conscience but the truth is, I just cannot ignore it. I'm not seeking approval or anything...I'm a Christian because Jesus wants me to be. I don't need the headache but yet there I am!

  • @VitoBandito1 " No other religions offer anything beyond this life"

    did you look into other religions then

  • @bobmuffins No, I did not look into any other religions. Nothing interests me in that respect outside teachings of Jesus. Something about Him...I feel I can trust Him, even when I sometimes fail to hold up my end of the bargain. 

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  • @VitoBandito1 The humility it takes to be a God yet still hold people in high enough regard that you would lay your life down for them. It's not the question why am I a Christian that interests me as much as why a Superior would care enough to do that? Our politicians would sell us out for a nickel but here's a real diety stooping to wash the feet of His disciples. Stoopin is what He did when He came down from Heaven to wash us with with his Word and redeem us with His blood.

  • @VitoBandito1 jesus is a literal copy of at least ten other gods, who all were born december 25th (the solstice as far as they could tell that long ago), all had disciples follow them, all did miracles, all died painful deaths, then all came back to life shortly after

    see: mithra, osiris, horus, ishtar, perseus, attis, hermes, adonis, hercules, tammuz, prometheus, bacchus, or asclepus

    and guess what

    a lot of those gods were invented before yours

  • @VitoBandito1 and here's a question for you

    if i put a baby in a cage with a robot that i created to destroy babies, and my robot killed the baby- and i did it OVER AND OVER, you'd think i'm fucking psychotic and should be put to death

    yet you worship a god that does this, replacing "cage" and "robot" with "earth", and "kill" with "damn". why would you willingly worship this god? if god is all knowing, he knows he's putting the baby in the cage with the robot, and it'll die.

  • @bobmuffins What if that Baby had milk that would save the other babies from starvation and He willingly and bravely went among the robots of the earth who were programmed to destroy Him in order to bring some to them personally because He couldn't trust the robots to give it to them? And what of the father of your teaching who would just let you all starve and may God help you? Isn't that more psychotic?

  • @VitoBandito1 god still sends people to hell after jesus came

    so god is still putting people in this cage

    "And what of the father of your teaching who would just let you all starve and may God help you? Isn't that more psychotic?"

    uh

    what

    i

    i don't

    what the fuck did i just read

  • Gods hand is not Physical. We are Physical. The Koran saying being dirty by touching a woman is giving guilt. That is what the devil does. The devil hates touch. God made for the possibility of touch. We are to be constant in Prayer. The non human animals are better than we are being constant in prayer not cursing God for the good gifts. Human Knowledge is less than nothing. What has it gained us? Needing water filters, and spare the air days. Beliefs that have good works doing good is good.

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  • The Christians you are trying to address don't watch these kinds of videos, and if by chance they do come across it they'll label it "satanic" and leave instantly.

  • @RobbeyT I can't sit though an entire one.

  • This guy doesn't know what hes talking about, we christians give our lives to Jesus, and it doesn't matter what an athiest thinks the fact is that at the end of it all Jesus said "Iam the way the truth and the life no man comes to the father but by me", so you can go on in your meaningless empty life where you just reason away spiritual things and we will go on believing that He is our salvation and He cleanses us from our sins so we can go into His perfect heaven, and you? ...............

  • @sarashitzu

    So can you PROVE any of your nonsense, or do you just expect us to believe you? If this cult leader ever actually existed, and if even 1% of the things claimed for him were true, how come no-one else around at the time managed to notice any of it and write it down? All of the supposed "miracles" claimed for this character were stolen from earlier cults of the area.

  • @sarashitzu Tell me if a religious man today says he is the son of god would you believe him? your answer is no. but why? you believe a middle eastern man who was born in a time where they believed the earth was flat but you dont believe a man who actuality has a bit more logic?

  • @sarashitzu least convincing argument ever. translation = i believe because its nice to feel special and dying is scary.

  • @sarashitzu wow, tyour jesus sounds a lot like david koresh...and jim jones.

    there was already one promise he didn't keep. he promised to return in the lifetimes of the people 2000 years ago. what makes you believe he will take you inoto his perfect heaven?

  • @sarashitzu Still no proof for god yet hey?

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  • Men Say "Show me and i'll believe", But God says "Believe And I'll Show You"

  • @SuperKayDee14

    Men exist.

  • Religion was invented to keep mankind in check. The purpose is to control behavior! Words were written in the Bible and other religious books to scare the heck out of humans so they can behave accordingly.

  • @GUALLACOL

    Ye I know, only problem is.... Jezus did miracles and Muhammed brought the Quran with many scientific facts into the world.

    But if you think religon is inveted to keep makind in check. Then I advice you to kill yourself and check for yourself sir :) only way you can know, hahah

  • @brief555 How about you killing yourself so I can see it?

  • @GUALLACOL

    Nahh, I already know what will happen. you are the 1 questioning religons.

  • @brief555 Yeah, I want to see if it is true!

  • @brief555 Sorry, but the Quran is NOT full of scientific facts. It's full of hundreds of references to Hell and torture. It's no surprise that you people blow yourselves up in crowds and fly planes into buildings.

  • @politicoochie09

    I know 100% that you have not read the Quran, you are probably using words that the media spoonfed you with. but ok, believe what ever you want. IDC

  • @brief555 Sorry, but through a computer, you have no way of knowing what I've read. I have a Quran right in front of me. Would you like me to quote you some passages? Would you like me to list you all the places where it mentions Hell? The Quran is obsessed with hell. And if YOU had read it, you'd know that. And as far as science goes, there is nothing scientific about it.

  • @politicoochie09 There is evidence to suggest 911 was engineered by Israel in concert with the US governement and the media to frame the Palestinians. How do they find Atta's passport on the street without a mark after the plane exploded in a fire ball when it hit? Many more inconsisencies. On CNN you saw repeated footage of Atta going through the check point at the aiport but what CNN failed to tell you was it was a ccompletey different airport in Denver.

  • At least with Christianity(I don't know the others well enough), Jesus taught in parables, fictional stories to illustrate a moral truth or bit of wisdom.

    They already accept that the word of God can be transmitted through fiction. Why is it impossible for the rest of the Bible to be, essentially, a parable?

  • @ctraver cause when god passes laws about slavery i don't see it how can this be a parable nor how this can be considered moral.

  • Me and one of my friends are atheist and my mum forced me to go to religion class at school and my friend went for one day just because of some mix up at the school. During the class my friend said "can I ask you a question?" 'sure" "why don't you believe in evolution?""Because now a days when a human mates with an animal it doesn't get pregnant" my friend started laughing and I face palmed and said out loud "idiot"

  • my friend actions are founded and strengened by belief, if you didn't truly believe all that you have said, you would have never made this video... and what if many of the books writen by scientists are fake, just an example, and i understand your point, many of the stories would seem to be very foolish and unreasonable, but to understand why, you would have to ask a religeous person, and they would say it is based on faith. faith alone, you keep your questions, i will keep my faith.

  • @the5krunner1 true so true even though im an atheist I understand you can never really disprove god and the bible because with faith you don't need facts and all that you just need to believe

  • @RottenMonkeyFarts you can disprove it, but not everyone accepts it. We know universe wasn't created in 6 days, earth is not 6000yrs old, nor was an arc with every animal. We can disprove god of the bible but not a god like entity without any known properties. Not accepting facts doesn't mean you haven't disprove it, means he remains deaf and blind on purpose.

  • Yeah... I almost got kicked out of Chapters and Indigo for trying to move the books to the fiction section.

  • It seems its easy to start a religion about something invisible, so, whos joining me in Internet-ism? :D

  • I always thought about, being an athiest and watching christians, it's like watching a faction of people who believe Star Wars really happened and arguing about the contradictions in the movies. It's very.....interesting.

  • If you handle "The Lord Of The Rings" to some people on an island and threat them with killing them if they don't believe That Frodo save them from and Evil Ring and all the other races disappeared from the earth because they sailed in flying ships to another land, they will believe anything you say, and you can do the same if you give them some dr Seuss Books, then they will be adoring the Who's and hating the devilish Grinch instead .

  • Don't forget that both testaments mention Unicorns as a true beings.

  • @emoryligas Can you give me chapter and verse on that so I can look them up or are you trying to make weak points without facts??

  • @eyewarnedyou Job 39:9-12 , Psalm 29:6, Isaiah 39:7, Numbers 23:22, Numbers 24:8, Deutronomy 33:17, Psalm 22:21, Psalm 29:6, Psalm 92:10, and Isaiah 34:7. My mistake, I just meant Old Testament, not new. And don't try to pull that shit where "christians only listen to the New Testament". By the way, you are just blowing up the comments page on this vid...

  • @emoryligas Jesus came to bring us a NEW Testament because he knew we couldn't live by the old....it was too strict. We now live in a time called "Grace". Since Christ died for our sins, all we need to do is ACCEPT that he did, and he did it FOR US!! It's called FAITH.  "For by Grace are you saved through Faith, it is not from yourself, it is a Gift of God, NOT OF (our) WORKS, so that no man can BOAST."

  • @eyewarnedyou I just want to point out that if thats true and jesus came to say the old testement is too strict, that means god made a mistake, which means he isnt infallible. I dont even believe in god, I'm just saying by your logic thats what happened.

  • @SigmaSigmaGnarly No, that means that man BLEW IT and God had to send the REMEDY because of our weaknesses....

  • @eyewarnedyou so scientists agree our species has been around at least 100,000 years, and you honestly believe god waited 90-something-thousand years to send Jesus, the "redmedy" of our problems, to the most barbaric illiterate part of the world? Not china where they could already read and write and it wouldnt have taken 10-50 years for the stories to get written down? Be logical. Use your head, its all stories. Every tribe has had its stories, the bible is no different.

  • @eyewarnedyou I respected your requests by giving you the references to Unicorns, which I first said were in both testaments. I was wrong on one part, and that Unicorns are only in the Old testament. Now can you please respect my requests of not talking to me on the importance of the New testament to your faith. I'm done talking to you, mostly because I find it useless to argue about religion on a Youtube comment page. You are not going to convince me of anything. And i won't convince you of ->

  • @emoryligas And I looked up some of those references you gave me which spoke of "wild oxen" and "deer". NONE of the ones I read mentions of Unicorn!!

  • @eyewarnedyou Some of the verses i knew were related to the verses with the Unicorns in them. But i didn't remember if they ACTUALLY had Unicorns im them. Which is why I gave you more chapters and verses than the number of ones that had unicorns in them.

  • @emoryligas So you thought I WOULDN'T check them out??

    So which ones actually use the WORD Unicorn???

  • @eyewarnedyou CONT. anything. I suggest you do the same to all the other people you are commenting on this page. You aren't going to convince them or me of anything. If you don't stop, you are labeled a "Troll". Please do not reply to these 2 comments.

  • @emoryligas So the saying "Don't confuse me with more information, my mind is ALREADY made up" applies to you???

    You're steadfastly holding to athiesm and evolution while I'm pointing out where it's not only UNTRUE, BUT even your "scientists" are arguing over it NOW!!!

    Google NDERF and READ some of the THOUSANDS of reports on the subject and then Google "Forbidden Archeology" and see what your athiestic and so-called "scientists" are doing to each other to COVER UP WHAT THEY'RE FINDING!!!

  • @eyewarnedyou Is all you do during the day comment on this fucking page! Get a fucking life! You are a troll! I said you should stop commenting on this page, because NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO YOU OR YOUR ASS-BACKWARDS THEORIES YOU STUPID BITCH! I know it's hard for you to let logic into your thought system, but you should at least try. I can see at least four other people on this page telling you the exact same thing. You call us "Close-minded" when you aren't listening to anyone and trying to shove

  • @emoryligas Ah yes.....when the ADOLSCENT has nothing else to say.....call names and use foul language. That ALWAYS works, huh KID???

    Sorry.......but no cigar!!!

  • @eyewarnedyou CONT. your ideas into our faces. No god exists, evolution is real, there is no way for you to prove evolution is wrong and creationism is right, and I will laugh my ass of when you die and nothing happens. DON'T REPLY TO THIS.

  • @emoryligas And your theme song is: "Don't confuse me with more information, my mind is ALREADY MADE UP!"

    Try Googling "NDERF" and then "Forbidden Archeology" and LEARN SOMETHING!!!

    Ignorance may be BLISS for you, but DON'T HIDE BEHIND IT!!!!

    Try being INFORMED instead of just OPINIONATED!!!

  • @eyewarnedyou

    I am informed. According to a PEW Survey Atheists are smarter than Christians. Atheists are smarter than any religious person really. I have proof of everything I say. That is more than I can say about you.

    pewresearch(dot)org/pubs/1745/­religious-knowledge-in-america­-survey-atheists-agnostics-sco­re-highest

  • @papermermaid If you are SO informed why are you IGNORING the THOUSANDS of reports from people who have come back from CLINICALLY DEAD???? You know more than them???

    And remember, the doctor who started this NDERF website was HIMSELF AN ATHIEST.......HELLO!!!

    What are you AFRAID OF?? Ignorance may be bliss, but it can also KILL YOU!!

  • @eyewarnedyou

    Then they are not dead. As science evolves more people will be coming back from death. It wouldn't it make sense for your brain to flip out a bit before you die. Of course. If you hit your head and you had a hallucination you wouldn't think of anything of it. But suddenly you think it is something different when you die? You are silly.

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  • @Murphydan93 I like the part where u pointed out evidence to support your ad hominem attack. O wait... You didnt...

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  • @Murphydan93 He is inside a loaf of bread? And so am I? I assume thats what you meant by "inbread". Unless you meant inbred, which is completely false, unless of course you believe the in the bible, which states that we are all the products of a hell of alot of incest. Nice ad hominem attack by the way, I like how you use that to avoid refuting an argument for which you have no proof to refute with.

  • So are you saying that there is no "Creator" and that when we die, that's "it"? Yes or No?

  • @eyewarnedyou The general idea is that the end of your life is just like the beginning... It takes a while to come to grips with that thought, but I feel that after someone accepts that they usually live a much more worth while life.

  • @eyewarnedyou

    Yes, that's it. Whats left after you go is the good you leave behind.

  • @papermermaid Then start reading the thread below on NDERF (Near Death Experience Research Foundation) and learn the truth!!

  • @eyewarnedyou

    We die. We go back into the Earth. One day the sun will Super-giant and flush our atoms back out into space, where we will join the rest of the cosmos to be made into another sun or we will remain as a nebulae in space for all time...There is no Soul, no afterlife, nothing. Time to grow up.

  • @papermermaid Try being INFORMED instead of just OPINIONATED!!!

    Thousands of these people WORLDWIDE have come back from FLAT-LINING and have told basically the same story. CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF INSTEAD OF WALLOWING IN IGNORANCE ON THE SUBJECT!!! What do you have to lose but your unfounded belief that you have no soul!!! Forever is a LONG LONG TIME!!!

  • @eyewarnedyou Yep. If you can not handle the idea of death being the end of our lives, then you can stick with superstition.

  • @MisterRedstone Again......do you believe that you have no soul and that when you die "that's it" game over??? Yes or No???

  • @eyewarnedyou I guess you couldn't read the "Yep" at the beginning of my last message, so let me state it again. Yes, i dont believe we have a soul, when we die, thats it.

  • @MisterRedstone Nice try wiseguy, but "Yep" could mean anything when NOT specifically directed to a point.....and "Yep" I'm sure you knew that.

    So if I can show you evidence by thousands of people WORLDWIDE that you are wrong, will you listen with an open mind or is that "mind" already made up???

    Most people agree that It's FAR better to be informed than just OPINIONATED....

  • @eyewarnedyou You asked a direct question in your comment and the first word in my response was "Yep." How in the world could you interpret that differently. I will listen, all atheists are perfectly willing to hear the other side, we just have never encountered even a decent argument for a God. I HIGHLY doubt however you have an open mind and that your mind is not made up. If i present you with evidence contrary to your beliefs, im sure you will run away like all religious who I have talked to.

  • @MisterRedstone "Yep" I should have remembered a question from two days ago....you're right!

    You said that "All athiests are prefectly willing to hear the other side"? Really, you reperesent and speak for them "all"??

    I'll go on when you're ready to listen......

  • @eyewarnedyou All that I have met yes. I am ready to listen... I don't know why you are putting this off...

  • @MisterRedstone (continued) That information gathering became so big that he and his wife set up a blog for other doctors (and patients) to contribute. The Doctor developed a pre set of questions to help eliminate any attention getters and wannabees from the study. They now have almost three thousand reports from ALL OVER THE WORLD where these "Near Death Experience" people have shared their information.

    HOW can it be that these people are having the SAME KINDS OF EXPERIENCES??"

  • @MisterRedstone OK,

    A decade ago an Athiest Emergency Room Doctor (aided by his wife) continued to hear stories from patients who had "flat lined" on his operating room table. Many came back sharing the same kinds of experiences! It intrigued him so much that he started compiling them together for reference.  He became so interested with this new information that he then contacted other doctors who might have had similar situations happening with their patients. (continued).

  • @eyewarnedyou Im going to respond by personal message because of the character limit.

  • @MisterRedstone Now Google NDERF (Near Death Experience Research Foundation) and READ a few of the THOUSANDS of reports from people from ALL OVER THE WORLD. I know your next "argument"........so even if only ONE FORTH of these were true, there's PLENTY OF THEM TO CONSIDER.......that is IF you have that "open mind" you said you'd use. Now remember this website and blog was started by an ATHIEST like you........

  • @eyewarnedyou Why are you responding in a comment rather then responding to the message i sent you?

  • @MisterRedstone Because it's QUICKER and I'm sure there are others interested in this!

    It's obvious that you HAVEN'T read any of them yet! You said you'd use an "open mind" while you've already CLOSED IT!!

    COME ON......ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE "UNKNOWN"? This info PROVES we have SPIRITS.......AND SCIENCE HATES IT WHEN IT STARTS SHOWING IT'S CRACKS!!!

    Now, Google & YouTube "Forbidden Archeology" sometime and LEARN MORE! Now you've got SCIENTISTS ARGUING WITH SCIENTISTS ABOUT OUR PAST!!

  • @MisterRedstone I'm off to work now......I'll respond later WHEN YOU'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH!!!

    Try being INFORMED instead of just OPINIONATED!!

  • @eyewarnedyou Are you just unbelievably stupid and ignorant? I researched what you said and responded to your points logically, and you simply ignored EVERYTHING i said in my messages!

  • @MisterRedstone Are you stupid or JUST STUBBORN???

    No your response to me took only minutes and there's NO WAY you could have researched ANY OF THIS!!! You said you'd look at this with an "open mind" but you're full of TALK. You are AFRAID of what you're going to read.....AREN'T YOU???

    It will SHATTER YOUR ATHIESTIC PHILOSOPHY IF YOU LOOK INTO THIS!!!

    Again.......try being INFORMED instead of just OPINIONATED!!! Research this BEFORE YOU RESPOND THIS TIME!!!

  • @eyewarnedyou Im neither stupid nor stubborn, i looked up NDERF and read through some of them, as well as looking into other stories throughout the web, and made a completely logical response, you however are REFUSING to read and respond to it! Respond to my personal message and the points i made in it! I researched you ignorant fool! You however are just to ignorant to want to hear what my response was! That or you simply have no response, and are trying to avoid making one.

  • @MisterRedstone There is NO WAY you've looked into these. You MAY have looked a FEW of them, but that's all...there are THOUSANDS!!

    1. These are WORLDWIDE while you said from the US only...FAIL!

    2. They are all telling the same basic story over and over again...not dreams..FAIL!

    3. You said you'd look at these with an "open mind" but OBVIOUSLY haven't....FAIL!!

    4. You are AFRAID to look into this because it BLOWS your athiestic mind...FAIL!!

    5. This weblog was created by an ATHIEST......FAIL!!

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  • @MisterRedstone

    Can't you READ? Go back through the thread and READ the words I've written instead of SKIPPING HALF OF THEM TO MAKE YOUR IGNORANT REPLIES!

    These NDERF reports are WORLD WIDE....does that make sense to you?? That means from AROUND THE WORLD!!

    People DON'T have the same "dreams or hallucinations" while flat lined...that's impossible and you know it....ESPECIALLY THOUSANDS OF THEM!

    And the FACT that you haven't "heard" of them means NOTHING when you would IGNORE them anyway!!

  • @JezusSlave Clearly you did not bother to actually watch the video before spewing your bull-crap.

  • Yes, all holy books are fiction. But that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. Don't any of you realise that?

    I read my own comment below and thought 'at last, someone intelligent on one of these boards' but noooo, it was just me.

  • @Clear404 --Even though some books of the bible are what you would call "fiction" (such as Tobit), they still can convey spiritual truths, just like the story of the "Tortoise and the Hare" is 100% fiction but conveys an important truth.

  • @AtomicMonster733 Yes, there are plenty of works of fiction that contain important moral and other kinds of truth. So?

    I'm sure the bible does contain some such truths. Problem is it contains a lot of utter shite too. And the only way to sift teh shite from the truth is to have some independent standard to appeal to, namely reason and our consicence. Well, then the rational thing to do is to appeal to them directly. It is irrational to give any independent authority to a work of fiction

  • @Clear404 that;s rather ridiculous... that's like saying 'Dumbledore is only a fictional character from the Harry Potter books.. but that doesn't mean he doesn't exist."

    Do you realize the contradictions?

    Or are you attempting to say that some form of godess(es)/god(s) exist, but that the bible is wrong? If so, why the bloody wouldn't it/they correct it? That's kind of like having a teacher teach kids math wrong, and then know the kids all have math wrong, and then decide not to correct.

  • @BrunhildaSwecker Do you know what a ‘contradiction’ is? My point is this: the bible and every other religious text are frauds. They’re obviously frauds. There’s no positive evidence they were written by God and plenty that they were not. So anyone who thinks any religious text was written by God is a moron. But the issue of whether God exists is separate. Believing God exists does not mean believing the bible is the word of God. I believe you exist, I don’t believe YOU wrote the bible.

  • @Clear404 It does not mean god does not exist, just that these books are incorrect. It is possible there is a god, but if so he is completely indifferent to human lives, and does not attribute himself to a holy book.

  • @MisterRedstone Methinks you're being sponsored by the non-sequitur society. All holy books are works of fiction. However, it doesn't follow from this that God does not exist, and nor does it follow that God is indiifferent to human lives. One piece of evidence for God's existence is morality, and so it is quite obvious God is VERY concerned with how we conduct our lives.

  • @Clear404 I don't think you realize i agreed with your point that because holy books are false it does not mean that there is no god. That being said, if there is no holy book that is correct and no real evidence, we can not assume there is one. Morality can easily exist without God, in fact a society would be impossible without morals, so we evolved hem to keep us from hurting others and in turn hurting the society.

  • @MisterRedstone Yes I did. My objection was to your claim that it therefore follows that God does not care about us, as if the only basis for thinking God cares about us is that it says so in a book.

    And again, you say there is 'no real evidence'.  That's question begging. I think there IS evidence.

    You say morality can ‘exist’ without God. Moral beliefs can exist. But they’ll all be false. After all, theistic beliefs can ‘exist’ without God. They’ll just be false.

  • Because of the fiction in the biblee stating that lightning was "fire from heaven" for punishing evildoers, or destruction caused by "demons" - allowed by god, in Germany during a 33 year period, 440 church bell towers were damaged and 120 bell ringers killed. You can read the entire article @//evolvefishdotcom/freewrite/­frankjgtdothtm. Religious nonsense can be deadly.

  • @yeshuahfullofit edit: /franklgt.htm

  • IN ISLAM, A MAN WENT WITH HE'S GROUP OF "DISBELIEVERS" ON ELEPHANTS TO DESTROY THE HOLY STONE (THE KAABA), THE ELEPHANTS STOPED BEFORE IT AND DIDNT ATTACKED BECUZ "THEY BELIEVED IN GOD AND DDNT WANT TO CAUSE HARM TO THE KAABA", THEN GOD SENT OUT BIRDS CARRYING ROCKS FROM HELL (yes from hell) THEY THEN THREW THEM ON THIS "EVIL" MAN AND HE'S TROOPS...

    - What a load of bullshit, am I right? :p Im too old to believe in fairy tales!

  • @xxShadowable It sounds like a justification for stoning those that oppose you (them).. Scary stuff.

  • I do NOT believe in religion but I was once a Muslim, TOUCHING A WOMAN HERE means Having intercourse with her, and DIRTY here means un-purified, you need to wash up before prayer with water and if that is unavailable then with Dirt (sand) or to the extreme with rock!

    I HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION that Everything in the Koran is scripted and clearly made by man!

  • this guy has a point religion to me is something that people believed in a bunch of years ago, and as science developed greatly, the believe of "god" and "spirits" seemed to get unreal as science proved all these things wrong. its an ancient thing and many people didnt think of more practical ways of life and instead believed in mystical things. im becoming an atheist a bit, but if other people believe in religion, im fine with that.

  • You tell any christian of 'Snow white' who ate a bad apple was a real story and actually happened. They will laugh at you.

    You replace 'Snow white' with the name 'Eve.' And then you will be considered logical.

    Cmon christians (and believer of any claimed holy writing), if your book said there was a girl named Dorothy who got sucked up in a tornado out of kansas and into a land of OZ, you would believe it.

    Just like you believe that a man lived in the belly of a big marine animal for 3 days.

  • @JezusSlave Is spamming comments on your videos truly your last hope for your dying religion? Because if so, you need to rethink your beliefs.

  • if u dont belive in a god? what do you belice then.

  • IT"S FAITH, dont got to explain shit (Christian logic)

  • Thanx god I'm atheist!!! :D

  • Yawn!! I didn't know atheism is soooooooooo boring!! I thank Russell's teapot I'm a Christain!!!

  • Atheism has 23 million death from one Atheist alone!

  • @asebrookb I'm sorry, what?

  • @asebrookb 23 million deaths? Who? What? Where?

  • @overusedoxymoron2003 im pretty sure he's talking about Hitler... incorrect statement. Hitler was catholic.

  • @MrPopeye232323 No, I'm talking about Stalin who killed 23 million people!

  • @asebrookb I don't think anyone can rightly call a Stalinist regime an Atheist society. A supernatural God has been replaced by the State as God, the State as the All Knowing. They still followed a dogmatic, inflexible methodology

  • @asebrookb Oooh...Wait guys this is a troll. Ignore him and he'll go away.

  • @overusedoxymoron2003 No, all you atheist are trolls, I'm defending my believe!

  • @asebrookb hey dumbass would you mind explaining why an atheist would go on a jew killing spree... what would an atheist have against the guys who supposedly killed Jesus.?

    Hitler was Catholic... he just made his own interpretation of the same bullshit religion and made it into a religion... the Mormons did it.. even the fags did it. they took the bible and crossed out every homophobic lines in the bible.. and hitler just said to himself... hey why aren't we killing the rats that killed jesus.

  • @asebrookb Is this truly your strongest card in an argument? Spam comments? Do you have any idea how many have died at the hands of religion? I shouldnt have to mention the atrocities committed in the name of christianity/judaism/Islam. God himself has murdered millions, maybe even billlions according to the bible, which people believe justifies murdering for there religion.