omg colin was my favorite driver in wrc i never knew he died till i bought the dirt 2 videogame lol they took wrc of cable and i never could watch it again thogh rip colin we all miss u
Whenever I hear the word 'rally', the first thing I think of is Colin McRae, I mean the guy is the embodiment of rallying, he is what it is all about, I rarely cry, but when I heard of this, I had to leave the room for a couple of minutes to compose myself. Such a waste of talent, he made the sport exciting, he was the only reason I watched the show, it was like he put on a show for everyone, it was brilliant, he was brilliant. R.I.P Colin McRae you will be sorely missed.
Im a true rally fan and a massive fan of Colin McRae,but i dont go around debating with others what might have caused the problem which killed him and his son johnny, not forgetting the other two family friends. I would much rather enjoy watching what he lived for! Rallying.
I remember reading an interview with him in the magazine 0-60 one month before this happened. In the interview the reporter was joking about how nervous he was getting into the helicopter with "McCrash". Such a loss. Such talent. I will never forget his roll during the x-games that he drove away from like nothing happened.
It has nothing to do with that, pilot error happens on all ends of the spectrum, JFK Jr. also had a broken leg, Colin Mgrae probably just made on stupid mistake and thats all it takes. Live fast die fast, he was an incredibly talented guy but no one is immortal.
it wasnt his fault the helicopter crashed, there was a mechanical problem. People in the nearby village recalled the helicopter making strange noises before the crash. He was a fully qualified helicopter pilot as well.
"british" no no no scottish rally driver. one of the best. How the hell can people say its his fault he and his two sons died. Helicopters are supposed to be safe... accidents happen.. sadly to people we like. =/
lol jshade I know what you mean. What you are trying to convey is that even though Scotland belongs to the british empire, Scottish people sees an internal difference. What you are trying to say is that there is this pride of being Scottish. Lol. :D
It's a pity Colin flew his helicopter in the same way as his rally cars - fast and furious (as was found in the accident report, plus his flying licence had expired). Its even more of a pity that two young boys lost their lives in this copter crash, one of them being Colin's son
Yes I agree - in light of today's news that McRae flew illegally that day - plus flying dangerously - he recklessly took the lives of two young boys. Shame on him.
You sholuld obviously think about what your saying when putting in comments about someone who was very well much loved for what he did and worldwide might i add!.You are not very well liked so why you post unessasary commments is beyond me!. Go annoy other people you waste of space.
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Don't be so touchy. Helicopters crash more often the planes I believe. Many rich amatuer pilots die every year in their private jets and helicopters. Well it is their choice. Anyway it was a tragic loss.
I fully agree with Pagangoth's comment. A true pioneer and great national hero. RIP Colin and the others involved in the crash, from the Highlands (north Scotland)
Colin was a pioneer to the sport of rally car racing. He was a hero to alot of drivers and Fans growing up, Including myself, its been 11 months and its just not the same with out him miss ya buddy.
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If he wasn't rich enough to efford a helicopter this wouldn't have happened!!! Its a shame for a rally driver like colin to die in a helicopter crash, at least he should have dead in a realy crash, in fact none of this should have happened !!!
i remember when i was about 6 or 7 and my father would have the rallys on tv and i never spoke a word any time he was on tv i just couldnt belive wat that man could do!!! RIP U LEGEND
I JUST found out about this yesterday! I was shocked! While I am not a follower of rally racing (this will change) I ALWAYS pick up the latest rally racing video games. It's my favorite type of racing game on the video game consoles. I was playing DiRT on my 360 yesterday when I went online to read about it and thats when I found out about Colin and the helicopter crash. This is such a bummer. Seemed like a great guy and awesome driver. RIP Colin.
r.i.p colin, the other members and your dear 5 year old son. We are all devestated so god know's what your wife and family is going through. God be with you all. xx
Special tribute planned..Make sure you dont miss the McRae stages in sept 08, all the old legends.. Vatanen.. Mikkola, Blomquist and Gronholm plus many many more, will be running at the front of the field in Mk2 escorts! google Mcrae stages rally tribute for details, this will never happen ever again, people are coming over from all over europe. Spread the word!
thats so annoying the most amazing rally driver to have ever lived and he died in a helicoper it would have been so much better if he had died driving his rally car atleast
still cant believe it,ive followed this champ for years and he was a real crowd puller,very modest,as was his dad and brother,they say the good go first ,how true, R.i.p.
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER!!**** YOU ARE SUCH AN AMAZING HUMAN BEING! AND DEFIED THE LAWS OF DRIVING PHYSICS... WHY YOU? WHY YOU? ITS NOT FAIR SUCH AMAZING PEOPLE LEAVE US SO SPONTANEOUS!~~~ JUST MET YOU FEW MONTHS BACK IN OUR INTERVIEW AND NOW YOU ARE GONE?? !!WHY!! AT X-GAMES 13 in CARSON, CALIFORNIA! THANK YOU FOR THE MEMORIES COLIN YOUR A GOOD MAN... ---------> RIP COLIN JR. :(`
RIP 2 CM.he is the senna of rallying 4 me.both very good but died at young age s well.any idea of travis pastrana attending CM funeral?i hear both of them were good friends after the subaru X rally challenge in america recently.
Sad story,allthough he wasn't the best he had a personality like no other..This awsome man will be missed by us Rallyfans and offcourse even more by his family and friends.
I stil can't believe what is happening, first Richard Burns, then Steve Irwin, now Colin McRae, all the heroes of a 17 years old boy childhood, gone in just 2 years. Rest In Peace Colin, I will never forget you !!!
In the same week of Steve Irwin, Peter Brock died aswell. He was an australian motorsport icon. Peter died in a rally accident, and since that happened, this particular event has been stopped and will never occur again. Peter Brock was an inspiration to millions of Australians (me included), and pretty much all motorsport fans. He was the King Of The Mountain (Bathurst).
It's sad, and hard to believe that we wont be able to watch him rally anymore... sucks that it has to happen like that, im pretty sure that when he died he wanted to die either doing what he loved (rallying) or with his family.. soooo sad..
An absolute rally legend. Such natural talent behind the wheel.
RIP Colin - "If in doubt, flat out!" - Colin Mcrae
joshGNR2 2 years ago 2
omg colin was my favorite driver in wrc i never knew he died till i bought the dirt 2 videogame lol they took wrc of cable and i never could watch it again thogh rip colin we all miss u
partyfriek 2 years ago 3
just been watching this years rally. its not the same without colin going flat out R.I.P colin
TheMarkpops 2 years ago 6
:-(
muffin4734 2 years ago 3
Whenever I hear the word 'rally', the first thing I think of is Colin McRae, I mean the guy is the embodiment of rallying, he is what it is all about, I rarely cry, but when I heard of this, I had to leave the room for a couple of minutes to compose myself. Such a waste of talent, he made the sport exciting, he was the only reason I watched the show, it was like he put on a show for everyone, it was brilliant, he was brilliant. R.I.P Colin McRae you will be sorely missed.
jasoffiloticus 2 years ago 8
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Thanks for the thumbs up all.
Its nice to be appreciated once in a while!!
Im a true rally fan and a massive fan of Colin McRae,but i dont go around debating with others what might have caused the problem which killed him and his son johnny, not forgetting the other two family friends. I would much rather enjoy watching what he lived for! Rallying.
Mozzofull 2 years ago
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Mozzofull 2 years ago
Its been 2 years now and Colin is still missed in the WRC R.I.P Lengend!!
JayLFC13 2 years ago 8
2yrs today!! sad sad sad loss indeed.
Still hard to accept :-((
R.I.P Colin McRae
Mozzofull 2 years ago 2
I remember reading an interview with him in the magazine 0-60 one month before this happened. In the interview the reporter was joking about how nervous he was getting into the helicopter with "McCrash". Such a loss. Such talent. I will never forget his roll during the x-games that he drove away from like nothing happened.
upfullandright 2 years ago
rip big man
rallyboi 2 years ago 7
why cant these rich folks leave the flying to real pilots. didnt we learn anything from jfk jr?
highway955 2 years ago
It has nothing to do with that, pilot error happens on all ends of the spectrum, JFK Jr. also had a broken leg, Colin Mgrae probably just made on stupid mistake and thats all it takes. Live fast die fast, he was an incredibly talented guy but no one is immortal.
johannescourtens 2 years ago 2
exactly or there could of been a fault with the helicopter.... R.I.P Colin!!!!
JayLFC13 2 years ago 6
he loved flying, you know what he was like!!
stiggywiggywoo 2 years ago 3
it wasnt his fault the helicopter crashed, there was a mechanical problem. People in the nearby village recalled the helicopter making strange noises before the crash. He was a fully qualified helicopter pilot as well.
excell719 2 years ago
"british" no no no scottish rally driver. one of the best. How the hell can people say its his fault he and his two sons died. Helicopters are supposed to be safe... accidents happen.. sadly to people we like. =/
r.i.p big man
jshads88 2 years ago
yes hes scotish but jshade you forgot something. Scotland belongs to British. British have conquered them when the anglo-saxons took over in London.
yuna238 2 years ago
I know it does but your not scottish so you dont understand what i mean.
jshads88 2 years ago
lol jshade I know what you mean. What you are trying to convey is that even though Scotland belongs to the british empire, Scottish people sees an internal difference. What you are trying to say is that there is this pride of being Scottish. Lol. :D
yuna238 2 years ago
In a nutshell aye =p
jshads88 2 years ago
olympus, you're one of the dumbest people i've ever heard.
Greetings from Italy
Majesty85 2 years ago
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Colin gambled with the life of 2 kids - that was just plain irresponsible
olympus51342 3 years ago
ever been on a plane? have kids? ever taken those kids on a plane? or anything else that flies? shit happens he wasnt gambling anything you shithead
DiscipleoftheWatch37 2 years ago 7
It's a pity Colin flew his helicopter in the same way as his rally cars - fast and furious (as was found in the accident report, plus his flying licence had expired). Its even more of a pity that two young boys lost their lives in this copter crash, one of them being Colin's son
RiP
Tin
Scotland
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TinfishUK 3 years ago
Yes I agree - in light of today's news that McRae flew illegally that day - plus flying dangerously - he recklessly took the lives of two young boys. Shame on him.
LPCLASSICAL 3 years ago
To LPCLASSICAL!!!!
You sholuld obviously think about what your saying when putting in comments about someone who was very well much loved for what he did and worldwide might i add!.You are not very well liked so why you post unessasary commments is beyond me!. Go annoy other people you waste of space.
Mozzofull 2 years ago 6
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Don't be so touchy. Helicopters crash more often the planes I believe. Many rich amatuer pilots die every year in their private jets and helicopters. Well it is their choice. Anyway it was a tragic loss.
LPCLASSICAL 2 years ago
rip colin you were not here for a long time but you had a good time my hero
clinky4 3 years ago
COLIN 6 UNICO.
trepellice 3 years ago
You and Senna... drove with HEART.. RIP
happygirl69 3 years ago
rip
thekingcikka 3 years ago
i love him !
was a fan since his championship in 1995 !
i played all Colin McRae Rally games :))
MaexxDesign 3 years ago
Wow man.. what a fuckin' amazing driver!! Awesome driving!
Enkei1989 3 years ago
What a legend.
delboi015631 3 years ago 2
He is a legend who will be sadly missed by all racing fans
Fasters2 3 years ago
R.I.P from quebec,canada...
mage0knight0will 3 years ago
R.I.P from Russia
zalol10 3 years ago
NOT a way for a driver to go! He wanted to go behind the wheel! RIP Go fast when you get there!
KC8YOQ 3 years ago
british my ass.
churd243 3 years ago
You was the best COLIN...:(
lebanesephilo92 3 years ago
R.I.P From Lebanon
lebanesephilo92 3 years ago
0:57 sums Colin up; too fast for the cameraman! RIP.
AleXcr86 3 years ago
R.I.P From England & SCotland
lukephil70 3 years ago
R.I.P. form Germany
Cyler7 3 years ago
you inspire all of us R.I.P BARBADOS
flyking33 3 years ago
........ =(
CamaroSS2236 3 years ago
R.I.P :(
That's so sad !
RogerBacon2 3 years ago
RIP from Hong Kong
HKBusFan 3 years ago
You were an inspiration to all racing drivers
Farewell my friend
R.I.P. from Portugal
KalashnikovaPT 3 years ago
R.I.P From POLAND.
IIlllllllllllllllllI 3 years ago
rip from ITALY
doriano2325 3 years ago
I fully agree with Pagangoth's comment. A true pioneer and great national hero. RIP Colin and the others involved in the crash, from the Highlands (north Scotland)
Doofer911 3 years ago
R.I.P UNITED STATES and MEXICO
fuzzygirlsfh 3 years ago
R.I.P FROM GREECE
solbergmaniacGR 3 years ago
R.I.P frm Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
avercine1 3 years ago
R.I.P from canada
you will be remembered
:(
coombsy16 3 years ago
a bavarian for the great scotish man. rip man! another legend is gone!
Sethro77 3 years ago
R.I.P From USA
chewman145 3 years ago
Colin was a pioneer to the sport of rally car racing. He was a hero to alot of drivers and Fans growing up, Including myself, its been 11 months and its just not the same with out him miss ya buddy.
Pagangoth 3 years ago 4
Best way to put it.
tampafl222 3 years ago
RIP from indonesia
m3rl1on 3 years ago
R.I.P FROM MEXICO
fcmfire 3 years ago
R.I.P. desde españa
toniflamit 3 years ago
R.I.P from holland
xbox360rofl 3 years ago
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If he wasn't rich enough to efford a helicopter this wouldn't have happened!!! Its a shame for a rally driver like colin to die in a helicopter crash, at least he should have dead in a realy crash, in fact none of this should have happened !!!
Airbusftw 3 years ago
R.I.P from ireland!!
i remember when i was about 6 or 7 and my father would have the rallys on tv and i never spoke a word any time he was on tv i just couldnt belive wat that man could do!!! RIP U LEGEND
Frogy9119 3 years ago
he was i do the excact same thing daj but ya and he was legend
mostwantedblacklist7 3 years ago
R.I.P you legend
fordrule888 3 years ago 3
I JUST found out about this yesterday! I was shocked! While I am not a follower of rally racing (this will change) I ALWAYS pick up the latest rally racing video games. It's my favorite type of racing game on the video game consoles. I was playing DiRT on my 360 yesterday when I went online to read about it and thats when I found out about Colin and the helicopter crash. This is such a bummer. Seemed like a great guy and awesome driver. RIP Colin.
dajzilla 3 years ago
You will never be forgotten may your body rest and your soul live on.
LongshanksSid 3 years ago
its just not fair. Why him?
foochee 3 years ago
r.i.p colin, the other members and your dear 5 year old son. We are all devestated so god know's what your wife and family is going through. God be with you all. xx
quackenbacker 3 years ago
rip from iraq
Hacker9111 3 years ago
Him and Richard Burns are racing in heaven, R.I.P to our two heros
snozdog 3 years ago
R.I.P. from Argentina
D.E.P. desde Argentina
gonzalosarlinga 3 years ago
R.I.P. From United States
easa13 3 years ago
D.E.P desde ESPAÑA
salserovigo 3 years ago
R.I.P from Aberdeen/Scotland
SolidSteve92 3 years ago
Rest In Peace from Sweden
sebbson2 3 years ago
R.I.P from Turkey
mesruuu 3 years ago
R.I.P. from Portugal
tjbc1904 3 years ago
Rest in peace, from Brasil.
JuninhoHanggar72 3 years ago
Ciao Colin...
bramo00 3 years ago
R.I.P from Lithuania
rolisIII 3 years ago
R.I.P your a real hero mcrae
macedhx 3 years ago
RIP Colin, you will be sorely missed..
Special tribute planned..Make sure you dont miss the McRae stages in sept 08, all the old legends.. Vatanen.. Mikkola, Blomquist and Gronholm plus many many more, will be running at the front of the field in Mk2 escorts! google Mcrae stages rally tribute for details, this will never happen ever again, people are coming over from all over europe. Spread the word!
Zico31 3 years ago
R.I.P from wales/cymru
djdev12 3 years ago
R.I.P Collin McRae from Sweden. :(
MaartinT 3 years ago
R.I.P. from Poland
fixed33 3 years ago
R.I.P from Estonia
Maq400 3 years ago
thats so annoying the most amazing rally driver to have ever lived and he died in a helicoper it would have been so much better if he had died driving his rally car atleast
nitroforce1992 3 years ago 2
R.I.P. Colin you really we're awesome
Cyrusgabe 3 years ago
sad
keiferrally 3 years ago
R.I.P fae Scotland m8. A true scottish legend nd my idol! makes me want to take up rallying nd am only 16. u will b missed m8 R.I.P xx
Stu
smileshithappens 3 years ago
Colin McRae 1968-2007 RIP
a true legend in rally racing
he is the reason i got in to rally racing
i'll miss you mate
COMETH THE HOUR COMETH THE MAN
speke1989 3 years ago
RIP from Lithuania
sokliukas95 3 years ago
RIP from Norway
narutotigerboy 3 years ago
R.I.P from Canada
nodnarBius 3 years ago
R.I.P. from Italy
danybr1 3 years ago
RIP Colin McRae
Muddkipz 3 years ago
RIP from Portugal
ST4LK3R89 4 years ago
R.I.P. United States
cporteus968 4 years ago
R.I.P Colin Mcrae
t3h0ne91 4 years ago
RIP Star what a ridiculous way to die :( we miss you champ
yamil91 4 years ago
R.I.P from polish rally fan :(
minimehany 4 years ago 2
Top subaru driver miss u R.i.p
subaruisgod 4 years ago
rip
BlankMusics 4 years ago 4
R.I.P from spain
vicydoy 4 years ago 2
RIP mate :(
098765432146586 4 years ago 2
R.I.P from Costa rica
andres2525 4 years ago 2
RIP idol Colin, You will always be the part of our every lives....
tokoyz 4 years ago
Poor guy :(
SDiablo123 4 years ago
RIP Colin... from your old mate.
tomliath 4 years ago
still cant believe it,ive followed this champ for years and he was a real crowd puller,very modest,as was his dad and brother,they say the good go first ,how true, R.i.p.
deere38 4 years ago
why the helicopter crashed?
d1rtb1ike 4 years ago
my love to ralley begans with the colin mcraye ralley game
Basszooka 4 years ago
yes.
SDiablo123 4 years ago
colin will be missed :(
RallySportLivecom 4 years ago
soddin legend he was, he'll always be remembered
RLawson1992 4 years ago 2
RIP Colin you will be remembered forever. Go to my Channel to see a bulletin that includes a video like this.
Adz4grove 4 years ago
unlucky countucky
harrold07 4 years ago
i always thought he would die in a rally accident =/
rip
ninjaSerg09 4 years ago
i would never think Colin McRae would die in some other thing besides a rally car R.I.P BEST RALLY CAR RACER EVER
snipachild 4 years ago 6
This is so stupid, he died in helicopter crash!!! OMG!
R.I.P.
ivor1025 4 years ago
he was a great man and great driver
R.I.P colin
Hype3600 4 years ago 2
RIP from Philippines... Lord of dirt...
kramjenpy 4 years ago
So sad! So unfair! My thoughts go to his family and friends. Terrible waste of life and unjustified tragedy of a great man and his son.
yeogav 4 years ago
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER!!**** YOU ARE SUCH AN AMAZING HUMAN BEING! AND DEFIED THE LAWS OF DRIVING PHYSICS... WHY YOU? WHY YOU? ITS NOT FAIR SUCH AMAZING PEOPLE LEAVE US SO SPONTANEOUS!~~~ JUST MET YOU FEW MONTHS BACK IN OUR INTERVIEW AND NOW YOU ARE GONE?? !!WHY!! AT X-GAMES 13 in CARSON, CALIFORNIA! THANK YOU FOR THE MEMORIES COLIN YOUR A GOOD MAN... ---------> RIP COLIN JR. :(`
spoolenturbo 4 years ago 5
Goodbye colin
DomHouse 4 years ago
R.I.P
rocketpunch12210 4 years ago
great drive, condolences to both families
thebigmarvinski 4 years ago
OMG! o_0 why!!!!! RIP from lebanon!
Nismoleb89 4 years ago
i met him great bloke :(
davbrow4 4 years ago
Scotland has lost one of its finest sons. A true hero! Our hearts go out to all his family.
It feels like the world just lost a little bit of its sparkle.
rabgraham69 4 years ago 4
rest in peace Colin....the world of rallying has lost another one of its brightest drivers...you will be missed
gbajien 4 years ago
deepest condolences from Holland.....very sad news i just heard about this.....best wishes to his family...bye
glorys6 4 years ago
R.I.P. :(
mattzme 4 years ago
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is he dead then?
eresjohnnyyy 4 years ago
you're an idiot
nancybreed 4 years ago 2
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YES!
mackenzie91 4 years ago
Buen viage Colin
Lluistetul 4 years ago
rest in peace
kirilium 4 years ago
You always expect those in dangerous occupations to go while they're in their trade and its always when u least expect it
bxblox 4 years ago
See you on the other side...
You'll stay in our hearts forever...
PastLight 4 years ago
He is my hero in heart :( RIP All Poland.
pawel1818 4 years ago
Rest In Peace.. you'll stay in our hearts Colin..
selvedre 4 years ago
legend ! R.I.P.
greewny 4 years ago
I will Remember u Colin McRae....
Forever u will remembered and Will u keep on sliding the corners of Heaven.
vhsfootball82 4 years ago
so unexpected R.I.P
JVDProductions 4 years ago
A huge loss, a legendry man. RIP Colin
richboy900 4 years ago 2
RIP from Germany !
Murrer89 4 years ago
rip.
blazemore 4 years ago 2
rip colin. you shall see your friend richard now. at least you are there to look after your boy. i feel for your wife man. peace be with you all
bizzyfingers 4 years ago 4
Colin McRae=Legend.
Forever present.
R.I.P. from Portugal.
franciscovaldevez 4 years ago 2
We'll really miss you!
haggardde 4 years ago 2
colin you will be missed you were a god
DeanGHmfc 4 years ago
Bye dude,sorry to see you go. You were a legend,and you made history.
Nice vid,very excellent tribute to someone who deserved their fucking props.
dudeisnotcoolio 4 years ago
A great man and a great World champion, you will sadly be missed but your memories will stay with us forever.
invincibleajay 4 years ago
R.I.P COLIN 4rm West Yorkshire
saint87 4 years ago
R.I.P. Colin. You were such an ambassador to the sport of rallying and you will be missed deeply.
gadgefan48 4 years ago
BROTHER I LOVE YOU R.I.P
Inboundbogie 4 years ago
r.i.p. colin
kroozindrift 4 years ago
RIP 2 CM.he is the senna of rallying 4 me.both very good but died at young age s well.any idea of travis pastrana attending CM funeral?i hear both of them were good friends after the subaru X rally challenge in america recently.
skylinerox 4 years ago
im so sad when I heard this news, the guy is a legend. RIP
bennettbuzz 4 years ago
Colin, we miss you. Rest in peace. Look the Tribute Video for Colin on my channel.
EuroGermanNews 4 years ago
A great man has now become a legend!
Sad story,allthough he wasn't the best he had a personality like no other..This awsome man will be missed by us Rallyfans and offcourse even more by his family and friends.
R.I.P. Colin
speer007 4 years ago
I stil can't believe what is happening, first Richard Burns, then Steve Irwin, now Colin McRae, all the heroes of a 17 years old boy childhood, gone in just 2 years. Rest In Peace Colin, I will never forget you !!!
djtood 4 years ago
In the same week of Steve Irwin, Peter Brock died aswell. He was an australian motorsport icon. Peter died in a rally accident, and since that happened, this particular event has been stopped and will never occur again. Peter Brock was an inspiration to millions of Australians (me included), and pretty much all motorsport fans. He was the King Of The Mountain (Bathurst).
zaoc 4 years ago
RIP McRae, and everyone else onboard the helicopter.
zaoc 4 years ago
R.I.P.. his son and the other 2 too.
AlexanderSZ 4 years ago
fuckin helicopter
Tokyodrift5000 4 years ago
who would of thought he would die in a heli crash man thoought he would always die in a car ashame great man
nastytrigga 4 years ago
R.I.P :(
0Trailsq 4 years ago
A tragic loss of a father and young son, and of a world champion. Our thoughts are with his family.
Athenascat 4 years ago
R.I.P Colin Mcrae :(
cookied1234 4 years ago
It's sad, and hard to believe that we wont be able to watch him rally anymore... sucks that it has to happen like that, im pretty sure that when he died he wanted to die either doing what he loved (rallying) or with his family.. soooo sad..
BloodWolf2k7 4 years ago