While I am not Mormon, it seems a bit fallacious that Born Again Christians use DNA as evidence against the Book of Mormon, while most Born Again Christians do not accept Evolution. DNA is solid evidence for Evolution. So why accept what DNA allegedly says about Mormonism, but DNA has been confirmed as evidence for Evolution?
Look you blundering fools, DNA testing can only trace back a thousand years at the most. The BoM people go back thousands of years. Go visit the Backyard Professor on youtube who sets this matter straight.
This guy Joseph Smith was only a guy who only followed his pipe and love his name. Unfortunatly many people are following his teachings and stupidities.
The concept of this video is completely wrong. It doesn't matter if the DNA doesn't match, because that's how gowd wants it. He wants you to have only faith. Therefore all of the mountains of evidence that disproves the moron religion only disproves it because god wants it to. God all you people trying to disprove the bom are stupid. If only you could see the truth, I mean the lies, or well uh, something. It's true, I feel it deep inside down there, and it's growing
@rebelnomo So God wants us to have blind faith? If that was the case, why does he provide an abundance of scientific evidence supporting the bible? While the book of mormon claims to be comparable to the bible?
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Joseph Smith was a wacko....but the so called Native American Indians are Israelites....the fact that theyre not related to the so called Jews in Israel proves it!!!! Cuz the Jews in Israel are not the real Jews!!! Epic Fail!!!!
what suprises me is that you can show a Morman all the proof in the world and they will still not believe you. My In Laws are Mormans and the consider me their daughters ticket to Hell since we can't be Sealed in the Temple we aren't gonna go to heaven like them. I don't dare try and argue the point, all it does is make them mad at me and hurt my wife. Even she has told them she doesn't believe the BOM and I know that really pisses them off. Maybe they have their own private gated Heaven !
@scubadude72060 You keep loving your wife, let your in laws believe what they want. Maybe they have their own private gated heaven? lol good one scubadude72060. Ok, how about you tell ur in laws you'll marry their daughter, this way you can tell them you'll have everlasting sex, and see what they say. lol again.
@scubadude72060 In ur in-laws defense, anytime u tell someone the way they've raised their family is wrong, ur goin to be met by a brick wall! But, that doesn't mean they have the right to agrue and attack ur beliefs back. I have a good friend that is in a similar situation as u and it is so frustrating for me (a mormon) to try to explain to him that our religion teaches us to love our neighbor not condem... Some mormons (rolfmo4) are ignorant just like some non-mormons (2xtream) are ignorant.
this guy Charles Larson. I wonder how many like him are paid to say what is written on a poster board. More so what knowledge do they possess of spiritual matters.
@ImLDSRU2 Considering the fallacies of their use of DNA, I wouldn't take this too seriously. The fact is that they have an inconsistency where DNA supposedly disproves Mormonism, and yet, these same people do not accept Evolution. DNA proves Evolution but they reject that evidence. Hence, they show that if it proves their view, they accept, if it doesn't go along with what they want to believe, they disregard it as false. BTW, I am not a Mormon.
Here is the real problem with their position: Genetic "trees" die out all of the time. For example, on my mother's side, there are no more male children going back all the way to the first immigrant. ALL of that Y Chromosome is GONE. This happens all the time. Not finding DNA results is not the same thing as disproving the Book of Mormon and in fact, their evidence actually SHOWS this. Incidentally, I am a Mormon and I believe in evolution.
@ImLDSRU2 Pretty much, I've challenged people on the idea of Evolution, via this video, and they constantly denied me of that truth and accused me of being a Mormon. But I am actually Catholic and I believe in Evolution. But yeah, this video is a joke.
@ImLDSRU2 That could be interesting, I tend to take a more scientific approach to DNA and concepts of Evolution like that. But I am always up for learning a few new ideas regarding anything. PM me, I'm actually about to head out, but I promise I will respond to you. I further promise that i respect your views.
@ghostofxmaspast Utterly wrong. You do not know what you are talking about.. MOST of the variations of Mitochondrial DNA that have ever existed are GONE.
@ghostofxmaspast I'd like to weigh in here on another issue with the DNA "evidence". The Christians on this video most likely do not accept Evolution, however DNA is evidence for Evolution. Why the lack of consistency?
@trueleroix Well, so far I haven't had any takers on this question. But then no matter which way I would go with the people for this video, it would be interesting. I am a Catholic, so they probably say I am part of a false church like the Mormons. And I accept Evolution (as the Catholic Church does), ergo, they wouldn't be too fond of that. I'm just asking why do they hold an inconsistency in this regard.
@Stitchman3875 On a side note, I found explaining Quantum Mechanics to a squirrel more productive than explaining Evolution to Fundamentalists. hahahahahahahaha
@Stitchman3875 Me too, the squirells never seem to quote mine or use arguments from ignorance. Also, squirrels are superior to fundies in that there is no record of any squirrel ever quoting Kent Hovind.
@Stitchman3875 heres a quote for you: "if there is an organism found that can not be explained by gradual successive change then my whole theory will fall apart" ~Charles Darwin~ the irreducible complexity of the bacterial flagellum IS that organism
check "Unlocking the Mystery of Life at itbn. org for real scientific data.
so how about the quantum mechanics of the shroud of Turin? check "the fabric of Time at itbn. org or my channel to see for yourself
@AttachableEarplugs And guess what. Just about all known organisms have successive explanations of the gradual change. Secondly, as for the flagellum, the first thing to understand is the process by which the flagellum came to be. Either, none of this answers why deny what DNA says proving Evolution, and accept what it allegedly says about Mormonism.
@Stitchman3875 i am a believer in JESUS, not religion! to say that every life form on earth was just a chance/mistake or mutation is like saying a tornado went through a junk yard and assembled a whole new line of cars/trucks/motorcycles all with unique sound systems and paint jobs!!!
@AttachableEarplugs No where in Evolution does it say that every lifeform on Earth was a chance mistake, typically misrepresentation by creationists. So you strawman the theory there. And sorry to break this to you, but belief in Evolution does not negate a loving God, your false dichotomy is like saying I cannot like sports and classical music. You're comparing apples and oranges.
@Stitchman3875 the catholic church accepts evolution?? (yikes!) evolution is a big fat lie! it was made up by Darwin who was only interested in disproving the bible (which can not be done) and there is NO physical evidence for evolution, what was observed is called adaptation! there is no finch going to turn into another bird or anything else.
Jesus Loves you, may you EXPERIENCE His Presence for yourself..Amen
@AttachableEarplugs First off Darwin was not trying to disprove anything about God, as he was practicing Episcopalian when he was formulating his theory. Secondly, there is a ton of physical evidence for for Evolution. Speciation has been observed with simpler species. And DNA provides even better proof for Evolution of species than any observable data. And it is rather presumptuous to assume that just because I accept Evolution, that means I don't believe in God. The fact is......
@Stitchman3875 There are many Christians like myself who believe in Evolution. However, this does not have anything to with the subject at hand. My question was, why do the makers of this video accept DNA's alleged evidence against Mormonism, but reject DNA's evidence in favor of Evolution.
@Stitchman3875 to say you believe in God and in evolution is like saying "i choose heads AND tails when flipping a coin! Either we were created by a Loving God in His image or we evolved from monkeys..only two sides to the coin my friend.
Mormonism is a false religion. Jesus hates religion.... Don't be fooled, steer away from any religion that lay claim to be the one and true faith. It will be a false religion...
BTW the bible is not a Religion, but the word of God...
@2xtream I did not know that you were given the right to speak for Jesus Christ. What do you know of Him? He hates religion? Then why did He establish a church? You say to steer away from any religion that proclaims to be the only true religion, if that be the case than where does one go - in their closet? The Bible, seems like a collection of writings of men professing to be prophets/apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ. What is their message? Seems like you know nothing of Jesus Christ.
@mystcblu seems you make my point very clear by using yourself by example. What right do I have? Only the right that God has empowered within me. You know nothing of Jesus Christ my lord... I would say you need to read the Bible rather then be told what it says. I for one read it and why some of the things I say sound strange to you. Because you NEVER read it yourself. If you did, you would know what I said is from God...
BTW since your a Mormon, only 140k go to heaven... R U 1 of those?
@2xtream the funny thing about your reply is that you know nothing about religion(s)...yet you sit there and judge me for my simple question which you didn't even bother answering. Yet another so called commandment of God that you break to appease your ignorance. Further more I am not mormon and if you believed in Christ you would follow him and not your pastor - sit down before you hurt yourself. Oh and the 140k that's the belief of a Jehovah Witness, but you knew that...LOL - fool
@mystcblu your arguments all about religion like the very first thing I said. So rather then try and force this back into a religion debate and NOT Gods word. I will say again God does not approve of any religion but only the living word of God that we all find in the Bible. NOT in any man made religion, so no need to beat your drum here, I'm not interested in any FALSE Mormon RELIGION. Oh yes the Jehovah Witness are wrong, the Catholics, Christians, & Jews. Only Mormon have the right book. ROFL
@2xtream so if the jw's are wrong and the catholics, christians and jews. whats left? Obviously your not any of those you mentioned. But you speak for Christ. Strange. and you quote the Bible. Even stranger. So if Gods words were written through man or men, who was Christ? was he not a man? I know that you feel that I am trying to argue religion I wish that was the case but even worlds beliefs system has a religion based upon some deity. It's either God or the Devil.
@2xtream you keep referencing Mormon book, your ridicule of this book has me intrigued. for someone who wants to know more of God you have pushed me in a direction that offers insight. I must find this book and read it for myself. I want to thank you for your help. My inquiry was I wanted to know what Christ meant .. be ye perfect as your father in heaven is..... but you offered no answer but rather judgment. I thought the mormons were silly but you have enlightened me to search them out
@AttachableEarplugs So what happened to all that died before JESUS ? You claim man had no RELATIONSHIP until Jesus returned.... Hmmm I think you need to get away from that False Religions.
When someone comes along and tells everyone they have the only true way to God such as Mormons / Jehovah Witness / Catholics etc. These are all FALSE teachings that lead to Hell... Jesus said himself he HATES religion... So Stick to the living word of GOD and leave mans best works alone !!
Interesting that these people use DNA as an argument against Mormonism, when DNA proves Evolution which most Evangelicals don't accept. Why believe DNA for one and not the other?
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The White Horse Prophesy proves what you already know, that He is the Christ!!
Even now, Joseph Smith sits at the left hand of Heavenly Father who created Him presiding in the Celestials until his divine return.
Sadly, most LDS have no clue what Mormonism is really about.
I testify before you and bare witness in my heart which bares fruit, Joseph Smith is the Christ, our Savior the King and only upon His footsteps must we all abide.
@Mormonites You are saying Joseph Smith is the Chirst? Wow, you really are misguided! Apparently you don't know your Bible scripture either John 14:6 says, "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." I didn't see Joseph Smith mentioned there.
I will agree with you on one thing, most LDS have NO IDEA what Mormonism is about! If they did they may not continue to follow the teachings of Joseph Smith!
@Mormonites By the way there is no such thing as "reformed Egyptian" That is a Mormon thing only. Egyptologists (people who specialize in Egyptian history) have never heard of it.
@renegade1alpha Uhm . . . did you even look at all the Egyptian Scripts? There is one in particular that was being used. Now the Reformed Egyptian has been changed through 1,000 years of use. But there is an Egyptian script that was used by the Hopewell Culture (the Nephites) that has been refined and adapted to a language that has changed over 1,000 years from Hebrew to Hopewell. Berk.
@EltonJThe No I did not look at nor study Egyptian Scripts because I am not an Egyptologist. I leave that for the experts, which are not the Mormons. The Hopewell Indians are also NOT a lost tribe of Isreal which the Mormon church has claimed. As a matter of fact DNA evidence has proven that Native Americans (of which I am part) have NO DNA similarities to the people of Israel. The Mormon faith is based solely on the word of a 14 year old boy and some "golden plates" which no longer exist.
@EltonJThe PITIFUL. Try Again. Hopewell is Nephite? Sad. Deal with this:: Joe claims "reformed Egyptian" was used in the BofM. So, lets Look at the Abraham Papyrus. It's in Real Egyptian. Alas, It's easily provable the Abe'Pap' is 300 AD. not 1700 BC. Alas, Every glyph written down by Joe as part of this "translation" is in error. Further, Egyptian clanged in 2000 years. Thus, the Hierarchy claim of a missing piece of papyrus with JS translation as accurate still leaves us wanting.
@IExposeMormonism haha..... reformed Egyptian & bookofmoreman evidence isn't straining at a knat. It is straining to see an electron. The Abraham fable is more than turn your head and cough, "it's a full blown exterior hernia"
@TheDarvus well, the truth is that you don't have any evidence. If you read his latest comments in this very thread, it's clear that he doesn't think your theory is right at all. You're not looking for a challenge because your theory has already been debunked all over youtube. That is the simple truth.
Darvus I know th Gospels were written by Mathew Mark Luke & John. Of that there is no Doubt. Th versions that we see have been altered to some extent. In many cases blotted out. Dr Ehrman explains that 3 different types of Christians x'd the Bible that we currently posses. He went Atheist over it. Abandoned his Christian Beliefs. To the LDS Faithful. These things, (& what you purpose) Actually strengthen the Idea of a restoration w/ A Joseph Smith Jr. Speculation is nothing. HolyGhost is all.
@TheDarvus He didn't. He's being kind to you. I'll give him that. We both know that after he examines the actual evidence he'll see that you don't know what your talking about. The evidence just simply isn't on your side.
@Humbler You see my friend, th antagonists have truth, they just don't know they are confessing it yet. When their knees bow, and tongues confess finally. It will be th time when fools stop mocking, & begin to mourn. Our Jobs as the saints alive in Christ, is to tell the truth, contend for th faith, be sons of Thunder, Stay close to th prophet, honor our covenants, & be there for our foolish brothers and sisters as best we can. Because when they Damn themselves, it will be us who visit them
@TheDarvus You haven't discovered anything of value and that is the truth. We know who wrote the Gospels... and surprise surprise... their names are Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John!
@TheDarvus Misquoting Jesus, by Dr. Bart Ehrman ties in to what you are saying. The gospels were written by at least three different types of Christians after 54 AD. and what ever we have today, is nothing like what was originally written in the bible.
@TheDarvus alritey then!! *Clap* thanks for the info,.. i will certainly do some research, and reading on Dr. Ermensteinstine or what ever his name was you sent in the PM to me. Have a great day..
@Humbler25 Now hang on a minute I think Darvus may be on to something here. I was extremely confused by what he was getting at originally, But I think I understand where he is going now with it.
@Sephuskal where he's going with it is some nonsense about Josephus (a non-Christian historian) choosing to write letters disguised as Paul and supposedly single handedly started up Christianity without any evidence or motive to support any of it. All historians agree in the historical Paul. There simply isn't anything of historical value to suggest otherwise and certainly none to support Josephus having any role in it.
@Sephuskal I'm not judging him, just I've heard what he has to say in forums all across youtube.He goes from video to video saying the same silly things. All he has are words taken out of context and quote mined to prove his theory. There simply isn't anything to suggest Josephus had anything to do with the bible. Not one person who studies this stuff for a living agrees with him. I trust you will doo your own research, look up the case for christ - good historical evidence is documented there.
I love it wen Constantinian pagan Christians use the "Do not add to his word" argument. Usually found in Revelation. Also Deutoronomy, (Which if by their reasoning, the entire rest of the bible from Deutoronomy down would make the bible unvalid.
@ Darvus I have my sources on them, youre supposed to be giving me some new revelation about them. We don't know who wrote them, they don't say. What ever queer position you're trying to "vaguely" argue, is pretty controversial by scholars and men in authority. I dare say that the innevibility of any light that comes in due process about said documents are and will be in refute among many in the know until personal revelation by those with true authority become manifest in regards to them
@TheDarvus Alright all knowing /seeing one,.. teach me about the Dead sea scrolls,... and try to tie in the Qumran Community, or the Essense Peoples, or other Hebrew extremists who did Not marry and workedout side the laws of God. The DSS, say nothing of the people who scribed and stuffed them in caves. So teach me your great wisdom on me. I'm just a lowly brainwashed Mormon, who needs your divine wisdom. Whatchya Got for me? lol
@TheDarvus Sephuskal makes a great point... now don't tell me that just because he doesn't continue discussing this with you that he somehow now agrees with you because we both know he doesn't. Know one does because your nonsense is completely illogical and poorly conceived.
@Humbler25 Well, I guess I have to get back into another youtube version of trench warfare, Darvus and His Brand New account thats not quite a month old, and sterilized, is obviously a Troll who knows me from past encounters. here we go. Stand in Holy Places Brother.
@TheDarvus I can't explain colors to the blind. I really don't have more to discuss with you. I have heard someone say before, it's like taking a delicious piece of filet mignon and pissing all over it. Or more appropriately: "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).
I wish you the best. I hope someday you will know truth. When you want a Genuine discussion hit me up. Peace.
@BaurakAle7 Heres another for you. fun fact. Phil 2: 5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Fact:Christ has a resurrected perfect Body. Fact he is in he form of God the Father. Fact: whether you believe a body is less or greater than a spirit, he is equal in form with God. God the Father therefore has a Body, and since he has a Body, having one is greater than having / being just a spirit.
@BaurakAle7 1 John 3. 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. So we have Bodies and When we see God the Father, we will be like him, and see him as he is. Sounds like we like Christ will have resurrected Bodies and see God the Father as having a Body. Thats pretty cut n dry right there. Are you a trinitarian today Mikey?
@Bau Jesus said "if ye have seen me ye have seen the Father". Jesus had a body of flesh & bone when he said this. So even the trinitarian has to admit he has a Body with his spirit. Later Jesus was resurrected & visited the apostles. He ate & drank with them, They touched his prints & felt his body. Then he went & ascended into heaven. He came back for 40 days & 100's witnessed his Body. His Body went to Heaven. Trinitarian view, he has a body. LDS view, is Jesus Greater than God? no. equal
@TheDarvus very true. Knowledge comes AFTER a trial of our faith. Now there are plenty of facts and plausible information to show physical proof. For believers. For those who don't believe, no proof will ever be enough.
@TheDarvus Yea there really is no physical Proof, Nor DNA proof yet that Jesus Lived, except for those who have seen him, and recorded it. It's all a matter of Faith. DNA issue s about Native Americans and Israelites from Galilee.
lDS believe Christ lives, and the first thing Mormons teach is the first vision, where Joseph smith saw God the Father and Jesus Christ, 2 separate individuals Like Stephen did before he was was murdered. Jesus never once demanded proof to believe on him. FAITH
They were looking for Jewish DNA in Native Americans. They found similar strains in Orientals, / Islanders. Therefore LDS are wrong. But Lehi's family were not Jewish, They were through the tribe of Manasseh. we know tribes by Patriarchal blessings. were are Manasseh peoples? They are lost tribe. Only the blessings determine. Yet Orientals and islanders are manasseh and have been for over a century. DNA proves LDS true. Then there's Hap X.
@amluerxray7 Thanks to people pointing out the Jewish flaw, we found the Hap X which brings certain North Americans back to Native Hebrew lands. If it hadn't been for the antiMormon Critics, we would never have found Hap X. I was fine withthe Manasseh thing, but the Hap X cements the truth of LDS teachings.
I wish these idiot christians would trust DNA evidence when it isn't just debasing opposing religions. I always find it funny that they will rely on genetic testing for court cases and in this case, showing the LDS church for the fraud it is - but when it comes to the Theory of Evolution, and the genetic evidence for that scientific Theory, they are all too willing to turn a blind eye. Hypocrits!
ploycarp was written about by Irenaeus that he seen and heard of jesus when jhon the apostle wrote the book of jhon. Now that is historical evidence. Now to clarify more, other books of the bible also work work together with what is written. If this doesn't count as evidence of an historical even t than we might as well throw away 90% of history, but we don't because its true. Also Pauline Christianity contradicts and ignores everything said in the bible.
@lifecon1 Polycarp (A.D. 69 – A.D. 155) was a second century Christian bishop of Smyrna. Polycarp has remained figured as a disciple of John the Apostle
Then Polycarp was following gentile Christianity and since John was an apostle of Jesus, he would a have been a Jewish Christian - different in that his belief was fully Jewish, believing in a human messiah - It is impossible for Polycarp to have ever been a disciple of John. Church tradition - nothing more.
@lifecon1 First, John was not penned until the turn of the first century so John had to be 90+. Also, hearssay is not evidence, particularly since numerous "references" were doctored by Christians. For example, the "reference" to Jesus in Josephus was an obvious forgery and the passage did not appear until the 4th century.
ok brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, there's no need to debate with the mormons, this is not abt who wins a debate, its more than clear that everything joseph smith claims are lies, all i can think of is that he was a puppet of Satan, these mormon people, dont need us to be mad at them, but let's all pray together so the mormons could open their eyes and be reborn again, i hope they find Christ because He is the only path to Salvation, so please lets start praying in the name of Jesus Christ
I find it funny how they only allow Protestant scholars to be interviewed. If this documentary were worth anything, it would let Mormon scholars speak for themselves and articulate their beliefs rather than allow people at conflict with Mormon theology to say, "this is what they believe and this is why it's wrong."
Mormonism is a cult with Satan as the author. It totally contridicts the Bible, they only believe what they want to believe in the Bible, sorry, but God's Word means what it says and says what it means. Smith claims there were Hebrews in pre-Colonial America, how did they get there and how did they know this continent even existed? If the cities that the book of moron said exisited how come the settlers never saw them? Clearly a fraud.
@beatleman69 - Christianity is a pagan cult as well so don't be too quick to call others the same. Virgin birth, human sacrifice, men gods are all pagan.
Ye quote the truth of scripture that thou shalt not add unto them, but they proclaim that a man thus received the word of God yet this man Joseph smith has no witness there of, under the laws of God. For they have taken what of God to claim it there own, as does those in bondage under Islam, but taketh that of the devil. Woe unto those who are deluded by the spirit of error for he must deny the spirit of truth to submit to such, as the wrath of God be upon those who set to deceive his children.
@Matthew1944 Jesus is the father of Christianity and has over 500 witnesses. and paul's writings also have witnesses outside of the bible....so what are you talking about?
@lifecon1 Jesus was born and died a Jew who preached to Jews who were losing their faith through Hellinization. Paul was the FIRST apostle to the gentiles. He neither studied under Jesus nor his apostles and his teachings are the Pauline Christianity of today. Google Pauline Christianity.
Please list the witness "outside of the bible", lifecon.
@freethinker143 wow you are so ready to blame and claim they are Christians when you have no evidence of that huh? Plus the law of contradiction applies to the book of mormon and every other scripture. since yours contradicts well that means it was always wrong as was realized back then.
I find it a bit hypocritical of the Christians here to use DNA to disprove the book of Mormon, however, DNA is evidence for Evolution, but these Christians most likely do not accept that.
Broctus2010 a self proclaimed DNA scientist says the following: "Hebrews? dont even match with themselves!" That sounds pretty science-y to me. Then he refers to the "philosophy" in this video. I think a scientist would use the word "hypothesis" as science doesn't have philosophies. Then there's this gem," this video is too lay on the subject, science itself as reffered here is not scientific. I wish I could explain more." I think I have a good idea why he can't explain more.
@KraftwithaK Because I only can can put 500 characters, thats why, do your own research, and I do Work with DNA, I tell you my Name: Dr. Tomás de la Maza, MD DDS PhD. And yes modern jews dont match with themselves... And what's your idea why I cant explain more? Bytheway I am chilean, and I did work with DNA until last year (I'm 35) and member of the genealogical institute of Chile
I work with DNA, Science has no position to say its true or falso, not yet. Hebrews? dont even match with themselves!. What I'm trying to say is that your opinion is not scientifically correct, the philosophy used in this video is not correct. Smith might be wrong, yes, granted (or right) but as a Scientist I can tell you this video is too lay on the subject, science itself as reffered here is not scientific. I wish I could explain more.
@Broctus2010 Um, please do explain. How the hell do hebrews not relate to even each other? Surely the fact that Native Americans are of Asian decent is enough to say that they certainly aren't Hebrew.
@roadsideflowers Jewish dont match each other becase in order to be a Jew your mother has to be a Jew, so the haplotype (male side/Y Chromosome) wont match,so a Jew can be R1b, or J2, or even e1b. Native Americans are usually Q, are there Q Jews, Yes, Is this enough to say Mormons Book is true, No. Is a deffenete proof its false, No. The truth is: WE DO NOT KNOW!... Sincerely
@anthonyyousif Difficult, Asyrians no longer exist, but i think that there are some DNA test for som Mummies, but I dont know the results. I do know about Tutankamun and Akenathon, they were r1b1b2, that means the guys were "CELTIC" hehehehe, can you imagine?... Does it mean that Egyptians are celtic? No way!... And even if jewish were Q1 dont think that would prove or disprove Smith´s theory. DNA Genetics is just a very young science
when are we going to get over silly superstitions like religion ALL religion is just a throwback to the ancient past when we worshiped the sun. Ppl kill die and torture because of contradicting belief's its pathetic. Anyone with a PC and a will to do so can utterly pull any religion to pieces with a few hours.
one day mabie it will take a thousand years ppl will ditch all the crap and start concentrating on making life better for all not what invisible friend they have is the real one
@Vimes67934 Man I am so glad to have your words because its the truth I wish everyone could just simply look at for what it really is ...thanx for your post!
Give me a break. I spent most of my childhood as a Mormon, and I know for a fact that it is a very screwed up religion and that Joseph Smith was a false prophet who was either a con-man, or led astray by the wrong source. I do believe with all my heart that the Bible is the word of God.
@thousandlegger! Josepht a Prophet?? where are your tablets?! where are the evidence of ur stories? the bible speak of the Ark..weve found the Ark, it speaks of Soddom and gomorha..weve found it includin the lady in salt, the red sea..weve found it! all the city in the bible exist till today...the book of mormon cities..never founded...yall lost man...and theres only one heaven! not 2...come back to Jesus!
@ziggy6464 there is no pillar of salt woman nor an ark. burned city's yes. but that's not proof of divine intervention. i'm actually not mormon i just believe in Joe Smith.
This is bull crap. Joseph smith is our prophet and he is the chosen one. why do you think the angels showed HIM where the Golden Tablets!!!!!!! so there!
religious morons ONE and ALL!!! you think the sky fairy made the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th... idiots! talking snakes people living in fish for 3 days..huh wtf... idiots, idiots, idiots...
And Ehud reached with his left hand, took the sword from his right thigh, and thrust it into his belly. And the hilt also went in after the blade, and the fat closed over the blade, for he did not pull the sword out of his belly; and the dung came out
Christianity is a test to see if you believe God is invisible, Romans 1:18-23, or is God in the form of a human creature. Paul begins to lie, Romans 3:7, so he later takes scripture out of context Psalms 14 found in Romans 3:10-18, and later Paul says your only hope is the blood of Jesus. But to be a Christian, believe a lie, is not bad, so long as you follow the doctrine of Paul. Jesus never killed so today the doctrine is corrupted. The gospel of John 15:25-27 has prophecy on the Qur'an.
So can any ol' guy write a book and call it "the most correct" of any book ever? I suppose anyone could try. We have to use discernment, logic, and authentic scripture to judge it. Scripture speaks nothing of another testament, Logic shows us no physical evidence. Discernment exposes Joseph Smith, Brigham and others as false prophets. Glory to God... not more-man
"Mr. Duster of NYU calls the business of genetic DNA testing 'an unregulated no-man's land.' " DNA tests help genealogists only so far, The Washington Times, March 11, 2009.
"The American Society of Human Genetics (ASHG) has similar concerns. The group says that those who undergo ancestry testing often do not realize the tests are probabilistic and can reach incorrect conclusions, causing emotional distress if test results are unexpected or undesired. The ASHG says consumers frequently purchase these tests to learn about their race or ethnicity, yet there is no clear-cut connection between an individual's DNA and racial affiliation." The Washington Times
"Any company can claim that their laboratories can analyze your DNA to provide accurate information about your ancestry," Mr. Duster says. "But if three different companies provide three different answers [as a report on CBS' "60 Minutes" did in 2007], what is a consumer to do? Which company is correct? There is no way of knowing, since we have no 'gold standard' for excellence or professional self-policing." Troy Duster, DNA tests help genealogists only so far, The Washington Times
"...as few as two of 64 great-great-great-great grandparents - can be identified with current DNA testing. Genetic DNA tests are quick to rule out whether someone belongs to a particular group, but they don't take into account the entire genetic makeup...testing only takes into account biology, and not affiliation with certain groups by way of language, culture or other customs" Troy Duster, sociology professor at New York University, DNA tests help genealogists only so far, The Washington Times
@8167433 the bible is full of lies, stories, contradictions, happpy sayings, genocide, archaic rules that nobody follows, and ideas ripped straight from pagan religions. that's the only book you read? bummer.
People jump to conclusions here! Ther eare many different views on the origin of tribes and many new connections on how these have developed and who came from where are still at a very early stage research wise. Too quick conclusions and to early in research on many things here. When all is at th etable it will be a different story altogetehr, just look at earlier science only few years back!
Joseph smith was falsefied in every aspect but none of his prophecies ever came true. not even the civil war one he said that the war would envelope the entire world. never happened. and dna speaks true you cant deny that and if you are tryin to come up with reasons on why it doesnt prove the they are related to isrealites. that is human reason and thus is a sin joe smith lied about it all the book of abraham was not abrahams book but a death right of a egyptian Nuff said
the DNA didn't match because they are comparing hebrew blood from these so called jews slash european slash white people from some mountains near georgia and russia.
I agree. Plus, on a curious side note ever wonder how easy it is for some semitic or arab people to look a lot like hispanics? I know of two instances where Jewish actors, with a slight tan and/or makeup have played roles of a Mexican, and they did it well. I find that interesting. DNA doesn't prove all things, it's like saying the Big Bang Theory is fact and not...well, a "theory". Persecution is nothing new to the people of God. God lives and rules from the heavens He's created...'nuff said!
Christians are collaterally estopped from criticizing the stupidity of Mormonism, since their religion is equally retarded and defiant of truth and logic.
It can't be ABSOLUTELY proven...that is the true fraud here! To assume all Native Americans came from 1 strain is very irresponsible - cmon guys! Don't sell yourselves short - this video is as narrow minded as anything I've seen.
Some are dumb enough to set aside eternal gospel truths testified of throughout mans experience on earth & truths now restored by Joseph Smith...simply because they get diverted on some historical issue or some scientific hypothesis not central to their exaltation & in so doing they lose sight of their spiritual birthrite - throwing it away for a "mess of pottage". They exchange the absolute certainty of the Restoration for a single doubt & in that process they fall in trap & lose faith.
LDS researchers have also focused attention on one genetic haplotype as potentially providing evidence in favor of a link between Hebrew DNA and Native American DNA. The haplotype in question, known as Haplogroup Q or Q-P36, is found in 31% of self-identified Native Americans in the US (Hammer 2005, p. 5).[13] It is also found in 5% of Ashkenazi Jews (Behar 2004, p. 357)[14] and 5% of Iraqi Jews. In addition, a rare branch of Q-P36, called Q-M323, is found in Yemeni Jews (Shen 2004, p. 251).
Galatians, 1: 8 "but though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you that that which we have preached unto you,, LET HIM BE ACCURSED"
While I am not Mormon, it seems a bit fallacious that Born Again Christians use DNA as evidence against the Book of Mormon, while most Born Again Christians do not accept Evolution. DNA is solid evidence for Evolution. So why accept what DNA allegedly says about Mormonism, but DNA has been confirmed as evidence for Evolution?
Stitchman3875 1 month ago
Look you blundering fools, DNA testing can only trace back a thousand years at the most. The BoM people go back thousands of years. Go visit the Backyard Professor on youtube who sets this matter straight.
MrMFHORN 1 month ago
Mormonism is an insult to more than just main stream Christians.It also insults the Native Americans as well as Scientists.
calman1951 1 month ago
Anti-mormon
baznet 2 months ago
" Unfortunatly many people are following his teachings and stupidities."
Says the woman who also said "I would have liked to kill Joseph Smith with my own hands"
dorisfenella 3 months ago
This guy Joseph Smith was only a guy who only followed his pipe and love his name. Unfortunatly many people are following his teachings and stupidities.
Chinaculiacan 4 months ago
desgusting -.-
Bluestreakteam 4 months ago
The concept of this video is completely wrong. It doesn't matter if the DNA doesn't match, because that's how gowd wants it. He wants you to have only faith. Therefore all of the mountains of evidence that disproves the moron religion only disproves it because god wants it to. God all you people trying to disprove the bom are stupid. If only you could see the truth, I mean the lies, or well uh, something. It's true, I feel it deep inside down there, and it's growing
rebelnomo 5 months ago
@rebelnomo So God wants us to have blind faith? If that was the case, why does he provide an abundance of scientific evidence supporting the bible? While the book of mormon claims to be comparable to the bible?
davidakadb 1 month ago
what was the sample group? how many different groups of indians were tested?
why is it okay to prove the bible by science but not the book of mormon?
sammycatfan 5 months ago
Dozens of similarities between the communities at the Dead Sea (discovery of Dead Sea Scrolls) and those in the Book of Mormon.
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downyourtube 6 months ago
Joseph Smith was a wacko....but the so called Native American Indians are Israelites....the fact that theyre not related to the so called Jews in Israel proves it!!!! Cuz the Jews in Israel are not the real Jews!!! Epic Fail!!!!
DoubleAAmazin2 6 months ago
what suprises me is that you can show a Morman all the proof in the world and they will still not believe you. My In Laws are Mormans and the consider me their daughters ticket to Hell since we can't be Sealed in the Temple we aren't gonna go to heaven like them. I don't dare try and argue the point, all it does is make them mad at me and hurt my wife. Even she has told them she doesn't believe the BOM and I know that really pisses them off. Maybe they have their own private gated Heaven !
scubadude72060 6 months ago
@scubadude72060 You keep loving your wife, let your in laws believe what they want. Maybe they have their own private gated heaven? lol good one scubadude72060. Ok, how about you tell ur in laws you'll marry their daughter, this way you can tell them you'll have everlasting sex, and see what they say. lol again.
Chinaculiacan 5 months ago
@scubadude72060 In ur in-laws defense, anytime u tell someone the way they've raised their family is wrong, ur goin to be met by a brick wall! But, that doesn't mean they have the right to agrue and attack ur beliefs back. I have a good friend that is in a similar situation as u and it is so frustrating for me (a mormon) to try to explain to him that our religion teaches us to love our neighbor not condem... Some mormons (rolfmo4) are ignorant just like some non-mormons (2xtream) are ignorant.
tclark654321 4 months ago
this guy Charles Larson. I wonder how many like him are paid to say what is written on a poster board. More so what knowledge do they possess of spiritual matters.
mystcblu 6 months ago
@JustinOwnsHumbler25 ::Shrug:: You seem to be a madman.
ImLDSRU2 6 months ago
@JustinOwnsHumbler25 Is this Spam? What does this man's problems have to do with this video?
ImLDSRU2 7 months ago
This video contains at least two lies:
1. DNA does not prove or disprove the Book of Mormon
2. These people are not taping from the Joseph Smith Building. It is a fake background.
ImLDSRU2 7 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Considering the fallacies of their use of DNA, I wouldn't take this too seriously. The fact is that they have an inconsistency where DNA supposedly disproves Mormonism, and yet, these same people do not accept Evolution. DNA proves Evolution but they reject that evidence. Hence, they show that if it proves their view, they accept, if it doesn't go along with what they want to believe, they disregard it as false. BTW, I am not a Mormon.
Stitchman3875 7 months ago
@Stitchman3875 You have a good point.
Here is the real problem with their position: Genetic "trees" die out all of the time. For example, on my mother's side, there are no more male children going back all the way to the first immigrant. ALL of that Y Chromosome is GONE. This happens all the time. Not finding DNA results is not the same thing as disproving the Book of Mormon and in fact, their evidence actually SHOWS this. Incidentally, I am a Mormon and I believe in evolution.
ImLDSRU2 7 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Pretty much, I've challenged people on the idea of Evolution, via this video, and they constantly denied me of that truth and accused me of being a Mormon. But I am actually Catholic and I believe in Evolution. But yeah, this video is a joke.
Stitchman3875 7 months ago
@Stitchman3875 If you would be interested we could talk about some ideas of evolution as seen from a Mormon perspective in a PM.
You *might* find it useful in your own thinking.
ImLDSRU2 7 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 That could be interesting, I tend to take a more scientific approach to DNA and concepts of Evolution like that. But I am always up for learning a few new ideas regarding anything. PM me, I'm actually about to head out, but I promise I will respond to you. I further promise that i respect your views.
Stitchman3875 7 months ago
@Stitchman3875 Catholicism is my second favorite religion ... right after Mormonism!
ImLDSRU2 7 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Mitochondrial DNA isn't erased nor lost. Try again.
ghostofxmaspast 4 months ago
@ghostofxmaspast Utterly wrong. You do not know what you are talking about.. MOST of the variations of Mitochondrial DNA that have ever existed are GONE.
ImLDSRU2 4 months ago
@ghostofxmaspast I'd like to weigh in here on another issue with the DNA "evidence". The Christians on this video most likely do not accept Evolution, however DNA is evidence for Evolution. Why the lack of consistency?
Stitchman3875 1 month ago
@Stitchman3875 If you have success here, I'm going to need you to go explain quantum mechanics to squirrels. Let me know how it goes.
trueleroix 4 weeks ago
@trueleroix Well, so far I haven't had any takers on this question. But then no matter which way I would go with the people for this video, it would be interesting. I am a Catholic, so they probably say I am part of a false church like the Mormons. And I accept Evolution (as the Catholic Church does), ergo, they wouldn't be too fond of that. I'm just asking why do they hold an inconsistency in this regard.
Stitchman3875 4 weeks ago
@Stitchman3875 On a side note, I found explaining Quantum Mechanics to a squirrel more productive than explaining Evolution to Fundamentalists. hahahahahahahaha
Stitchman3875 4 weeks ago
@Stitchman3875 Me too, the squirells never seem to quote mine or use arguments from ignorance. Also, squirrels are superior to fundies in that there is no record of any squirrel ever quoting Kent Hovind.
trueleroix 4 weeks ago
@Stitchman3875 heres a quote for you: "if there is an organism found that can not be explained by gradual successive change then my whole theory will fall apart" ~Charles Darwin~ the irreducible complexity of the bacterial flagellum IS that organism
check "Unlocking the Mystery of Life at itbn. org for real scientific data.
so how about the quantum mechanics of the shroud of Turin? check "the fabric of Time at itbn. org or my channel to see for yourself
AttachableEarplugs 1 week ago
@AttachableEarplugs And guess what. Just about all known organisms have successive explanations of the gradual change. Secondly, as for the flagellum, the first thing to understand is the process by which the flagellum came to be. Either, none of this answers why deny what DNA says proving Evolution, and accept what it allegedly says about Mormonism.
Stitchman3875 1 week ago
@Stitchman3875 i am a believer in JESUS, not religion! to say that every life form on earth was just a chance/mistake or mutation is like saying a tornado went through a junk yard and assembled a whole new line of cars/trucks/motorcycles all with unique sound systems and paint jobs!!!
"Unlocking the Mystery of Life at itbn. org
AttachableEarplugs 1 week ago
@AttachableEarplugs No where in Evolution does it say that every lifeform on Earth was a chance mistake, typically misrepresentation by creationists. So you strawman the theory there. And sorry to break this to you, but belief in Evolution does not negate a loving God, your false dichotomy is like saying I cannot like sports and classical music. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Stitchman3875 1 week ago
@Stitchman3875 the catholic church accepts evolution?? (yikes!) evolution is a big fat lie! it was made up by Darwin who was only interested in disproving the bible (which can not be done) and there is NO physical evidence for evolution, what was observed is called adaptation! there is no finch going to turn into another bird or anything else.
Jesus Loves you, may you EXPERIENCE His Presence for yourself..Amen
AttachableEarplugs 1 week ago
@AttachableEarplugs First off Darwin was not trying to disprove anything about God, as he was practicing Episcopalian when he was formulating his theory. Secondly, there is a ton of physical evidence for for Evolution. Speciation has been observed with simpler species. And DNA provides even better proof for Evolution of species than any observable data. And it is rather presumptuous to assume that just because I accept Evolution, that means I don't believe in God. The fact is......
Stitchman3875 1 week ago
@Stitchman3875 There are many Christians like myself who believe in Evolution. However, this does not have anything to with the subject at hand. My question was, why do the makers of this video accept DNA's alleged evidence against Mormonism, but reject DNA's evidence in favor of Evolution.
Stitchman3875 1 week ago
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AttachableEarplugs 1 week ago
@Stitchman3875 to say you believe in God and in evolution is like saying "i choose heads AND tails when flipping a coin! Either we were created by a Loving God in His image or we evolved from monkeys..only two sides to the coin my friend.
AttachableEarplugs 1 week ago
Mormonism is a false religion. Jesus hates religion.... Don't be fooled, steer away from any religion that lay claim to be the one and true faith. It will be a false religion...
BTW the bible is not a Religion, but the word of God...
2xtream 8 months ago
@2xtream I did not know that you were given the right to speak for Jesus Christ. What do you know of Him? He hates religion? Then why did He establish a church? You say to steer away from any religion that proclaims to be the only true religion, if that be the case than where does one go - in their closet? The Bible, seems like a collection of writings of men professing to be prophets/apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ. What is their message? Seems like you know nothing of Jesus Christ.
mystcblu 6 months ago
@mystcblu seems you make my point very clear by using yourself by example. What right do I have? Only the right that God has empowered within me. You know nothing of Jesus Christ my lord... I would say you need to read the Bible rather then be told what it says. I for one read it and why some of the things I say sound strange to you. Because you NEVER read it yourself. If you did, you would know what I said is from God...
BTW since your a Mormon, only 140k go to heaven... R U 1 of those?
2xtream 6 months ago
@2xtream the funny thing about your reply is that you know nothing about religion(s)...yet you sit there and judge me for my simple question which you didn't even bother answering. Yet another so called commandment of God that you break to appease your ignorance. Further more I am not mormon and if you believed in Christ you would follow him and not your pastor - sit down before you hurt yourself. Oh and the 140k that's the belief of a Jehovah Witness, but you knew that...LOL - fool
mystcblu 6 months ago
@mystcblu your arguments all about religion like the very first thing I said. So rather then try and force this back into a religion debate and NOT Gods word. I will say again God does not approve of any religion but only the living word of God that we all find in the Bible. NOT in any man made religion, so no need to beat your drum here, I'm not interested in any FALSE Mormon RELIGION. Oh yes the Jehovah Witness are wrong, the Catholics, Christians, & Jews. Only Mormon have the right book. ROFL
2xtream 6 months ago
@2xtream so if the jw's are wrong and the catholics, christians and jews. whats left? Obviously your not any of those you mentioned. But you speak for Christ. Strange. and you quote the Bible. Even stranger. So if Gods words were written through man or men, who was Christ? was he not a man? I know that you feel that I am trying to argue religion I wish that was the case but even worlds beliefs system has a religion based upon some deity. It's either God or the Devil.
mystcblu 6 months ago
@2xtream you keep referencing Mormon book, your ridicule of this book has me intrigued. for someone who wants to know more of God you have pushed me in a direction that offers insight. I must find this book and read it for myself. I want to thank you for your help. My inquiry was I wanted to know what Christ meant .. be ye perfect as your father in heaven is..... but you offered no answer but rather judgment. I thought the mormons were silly but you have enlightened me to search them out
mystcblu 6 months ago
@2xtream i will let you know of my findings.
mystcblu 6 months ago
@2xtream
Jesus returned what was lost in the garden: a RELATIONSHIP with The Living God
Blessings to you!
AttachableEarplugs 1 week ago
@AttachableEarplugs So what happened to all that died before JESUS ? You claim man had no RELATIONSHIP until Jesus returned.... Hmmm I think you need to get away from that False Religions.
When someone comes along and tells everyone they have the only true way to God such as Mormons / Jehovah Witness / Catholics etc. These are all FALSE teachings that lead to Hell... Jesus said himself he HATES religion... So Stick to the living word of GOD and leave mans best works alone !!
2xtream 1 week ago
DNA evidence does not support nor deny the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. It is essentially a non-issue.
Ninjax2000 9 months ago
Interesting that these people use DNA as an argument against Mormonism, when DNA proves Evolution which most Evangelicals don't accept. Why believe DNA for one and not the other?
Stitchman3875 9 months ago
OH SNAP! GET ONWED
Marvive42 9 months ago
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Humbler25 9 months ago
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JESUSsmokesCRACK 7 months ago
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Humbler25 9 months ago
The White Horse Prophesy proves what you already know, that He is the Christ!!
Even now, Joseph Smith sits at the left hand of Heavenly Father who created Him presiding in the Celestials until his divine return.
Sadly, most LDS have no clue what Mormonism is really about.
I testify before you and bare witness in my heart which bares fruit, Joseph Smith is the Christ, our Savior the King and only upon His footsteps must we all abide.
If you think you're a Mormon, you're not!!
You're Jack at best.
Mormonites 9 months ago
@Mormonites You really believe Jesus is the Christ?
Redmeddle 9 months ago
@Mormonites You are saying Joseph Smith is the Chirst? Wow, you really are misguided! Apparently you don't know your Bible scripture either John 14:6 says, "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." I didn't see Joseph Smith mentioned there.
I will agree with you on one thing, most LDS have NO IDEA what Mormonism is about! If they did they may not continue to follow the teachings of Joseph Smith!
renegade1alpha 4 months ago
@Mormonites By the way there is no such thing as "reformed Egyptian" That is a Mormon thing only. Egyptologists (people who specialize in Egyptian history) have never heard of it.
renegade1alpha 4 months ago
@renegade1alpha Uhm . . . did you even look at all the Egyptian Scripts? There is one in particular that was being used. Now the Reformed Egyptian has been changed through 1,000 years of use. But there is an Egyptian script that was used by the Hopewell Culture (the Nephites) that has been refined and adapted to a language that has changed over 1,000 years from Hebrew to Hopewell. Berk.
EltonJThe 4 months ago
@EltonJThe No I did not look at nor study Egyptian Scripts because I am not an Egyptologist. I leave that for the experts, which are not the Mormons. The Hopewell Indians are also NOT a lost tribe of Isreal which the Mormon church has claimed. As a matter of fact DNA evidence has proven that Native Americans (of which I am part) have NO DNA similarities to the people of Israel. The Mormon faith is based solely on the word of a 14 year old boy and some "golden plates" which no longer exist.
renegade1alpha 4 months ago
@EltonJThe PITIFUL. Try Again. Hopewell is Nephite? Sad. Deal with this:: Joe claims "reformed Egyptian" was used in the BofM. So, lets Look at the Abraham Papyrus. It's in Real Egyptian. Alas, It's easily provable the Abe'Pap' is 300 AD. not 1700 BC. Alas, Every glyph written down by Joe as part of this "translation" is in error. Further, Egyptian clanged in 2000 years. Thus, the Hierarchy claim of a missing piece of papyrus with JS translation as accurate still leaves us wanting.
IExposeMormonism 2 months ago
@IExposeMormonism haha..... reformed Egyptian & bookofmoreman evidence isn't straining at a knat. It is straining to see an electron. The Abraham fable is more than turn your head and cough, "it's a full blown exterior hernia"
awolLDSasap 1 month ago
@TheDarvus Like I said, he was being nice to you. Your theory has been defeated all over youtube and even you must now be coming around to that fact.
Humbler25 9 months ago
@TheDarvus well, the truth is that you don't have any evidence. If you read his latest comments in this very thread, it's clear that he doesn't think your theory is right at all. You're not looking for a challenge because your theory has already been debunked all over youtube. That is the simple truth.
Humbler25 10 months ago
Darvus I know th Gospels were written by Mathew Mark Luke & John. Of that there is no Doubt. Th versions that we see have been altered to some extent. In many cases blotted out. Dr Ehrman explains that 3 different types of Christians x'd the Bible that we currently posses. He went Atheist over it. Abandoned his Christian Beliefs. To the LDS Faithful. These things, (& what you purpose) Actually strengthen the Idea of a restoration w/ A Joseph Smith Jr. Speculation is nothing. HolyGhost is all.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus He didn't. He's being kind to you. I'll give him that. We both know that after he examines the actual evidence he'll see that you don't know what your talking about. The evidence just simply isn't on your side.
Humbler25 10 months ago
@Humbler You see my friend, th antagonists have truth, they just don't know they are confessing it yet. When their knees bow, and tongues confess finally. It will be th time when fools stop mocking, & begin to mourn. Our Jobs as the saints alive in Christ, is to tell the truth, contend for th faith, be sons of Thunder, Stay close to th prophet, honor our covenants, & be there for our foolish brothers and sisters as best we can. Because when they Damn themselves, it will be us who visit them
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus you think it's funny that you don't have any evidence. me too! LOL
Humbler25 10 months ago
@TheDarvus You haven't discovered anything of value and that is the truth. We know who wrote the Gospels... and surprise surprise... their names are Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John!
Humbler25 10 months ago
@TheDarvus Misquoting Jesus, by Dr. Bart Ehrman ties in to what you are saying. The gospels were written by at least three different types of Christians after 54 AD. and what ever we have today, is nothing like what was originally written in the bible.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus alritey then!! *Clap* thanks for the info,.. i will certainly do some research, and reading on Dr. Ermensteinstine or what ever his name was you sent in the PM to me. Have a great day..
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@Sephuskal as you complete your research you will quickly see that Darvus does't have a clue what he's talking about.
Humbler25 10 months ago
@Humbler25 Now hang on a minute I think Darvus may be on to something here. I was extremely confused by what he was getting at originally, But I think I understand where he is going now with it.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@Sephuskal where he's going with it is some nonsense about Josephus (a non-Christian historian) choosing to write letters disguised as Paul and supposedly single handedly started up Christianity without any evidence or motive to support any of it. All historians agree in the historical Paul. There simply isn't anything of historical value to suggest otherwise and certainly none to support Josephus having any role in it.
Humbler25 10 months ago
@Humbler25 lets not judge him too harshly tho, lets hear more of what he has to say..
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@Sephuskal I'm not judging him, just I've heard what he has to say in forums all across youtube.He goes from video to video saying the same silly things. All he has are words taken out of context and quote mined to prove his theory. There simply isn't anything to suggest Josephus had anything to do with the bible. Not one person who studies this stuff for a living agrees with him. I trust you will doo your own research, look up the case for christ - good historical evidence is documented there.
Humbler25 10 months ago
@Sephuskal consider reading "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stoebel - very compelling stuff!
Humbler25 10 months ago
I love it wen Constantinian pagan Christians use the "Do not add to his word" argument. Usually found in Revelation. Also Deutoronomy, (Which if by their reasoning, the entire rest of the bible from Deutoronomy down would make the bible unvalid.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@ Darvus I have my sources on them, youre supposed to be giving me some new revelation about them. We don't know who wrote them, they don't say. What ever queer position you're trying to "vaguely" argue, is pretty controversial by scholars and men in authority. I dare say that the innevibility of any light that comes in due process about said documents are and will be in refute among many in the know until personal revelation by those with true authority become manifest in regards to them
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus Alright all knowing /seeing one,.. teach me about the Dead sea scrolls,... and try to tie in the Qumran Community, or the Essense Peoples, or other Hebrew extremists who did Not marry and workedout side the laws of God. The DSS, say nothing of the people who scribed and stuffed them in caves. So teach me your great wisdom on me. I'm just a lowly brainwashed Mormon, who needs your divine wisdom. Whatchya Got for me? lol
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus Sephuskal makes a great point... now don't tell me that just because he doesn't continue discussing this with you that he somehow now agrees with you because we both know he doesn't. Know one does because your nonsense is completely illogical and poorly conceived.
Humbler25 10 months ago
@Humbler25 Well, I guess I have to get back into another youtube version of trench warfare, Darvus and His Brand New account thats not quite a month old, and sterilized, is obviously a Troll who knows me from past encounters. here we go. Stand in Holy Places Brother.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@Humbler25 I guess the "Inner Genius" decided not to counter my great points lol. The wicked flee when no one persueth.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus I can't explain colors to the blind. I really don't have more to discuss with you. I have heard someone say before, it's like taking a delicious piece of filet mignon and pissing all over it. Or more appropriately: "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).
I wish you the best. I hope someday you will know truth. When you want a Genuine discussion hit me up. Peace.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus One day my friend.Your knee will hit dirt, and your tongue will confess as mine does.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
Chirp Chirp... Anti Christs went silent.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 Heres another for you. fun fact. Phil 2: 5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Fact:Christ has a resurrected perfect Body. Fact he is in he form of God the Father. Fact: whether you believe a body is less or greater than a spirit, he is equal in form with God. God the Father therefore has a Body, and since he has a Body, having one is greater than having / being just a spirit.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 1 John 3. 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. So we have Bodies and When we see God the Father, we will be like him, and see him as he is. Sounds like we like Christ will have resurrected Bodies and see God the Father as having a Body. Thats pretty cut n dry right there. Are you a trinitarian today Mikey?
cuz Christ Has a Body. 1 God. 1 body.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus Physical proof is there,.. and Yea Jesus Christ is a real Person. and I know this first hand. Peace be the journey.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@Bau Jesus said "if ye have seen me ye have seen the Father". Jesus had a body of flesh & bone when he said this. So even the trinitarian has to admit he has a Body with his spirit. Later Jesus was resurrected & visited the apostles. He ate & drank with them, They touched his prints & felt his body. Then he went & ascended into heaven. He came back for 40 days & 100's witnessed his Body. His Body went to Heaven. Trinitarian view, he has a body. LDS view, is Jesus Greater than God? no. equal
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus very true. Knowledge comes AFTER a trial of our faith. Now there are plenty of facts and plausible information to show physical proof. For believers. For those who don't believe, no proof will ever be enough.
Sephuskal 10 months ago
@TheDarvus Yea there really is no physical Proof, Nor DNA proof yet that Jesus Lived, except for those who have seen him, and recorded it. It's all a matter of Faith. DNA issue s about Native Americans and Israelites from Galilee.
lDS believe Christ lives, and the first thing Mormons teach is the first vision, where Joseph smith saw God the Father and Jesus Christ, 2 separate individuals Like Stephen did before he was was murdered. Jesus never once demanded proof to believe on him. FAITH
Sephuskal 10 months ago
They were looking for Jewish DNA in Native Americans. They found similar strains in Orientals, / Islanders. Therefore LDS are wrong. But Lehi's family were not Jewish, They were through the tribe of Manasseh. we know tribes by Patriarchal blessings. were are Manasseh peoples? They are lost tribe. Only the blessings determine. Yet Orientals and islanders are manasseh and have been for over a century. DNA proves LDS true. Then there's Hap X.
Sephuskal 11 months ago
DNA proves the book of mormon true. Hap x and manassseh. Not Jews.
Sephuskal 11 months ago
@Sephuskal DNA proves every religion wrong
amluerxray7 11 months ago 2
@amluerxray7 HRMMM, not mine. proves mine pretty much right on the money.
Sephuskal 11 months ago
@Sephuskal what one is that
amluerxray7 11 months ago
@amluerxray7 Thanks to people pointing out the Jewish flaw, we found the Hap X which brings certain North Americans back to Native Hebrew lands. If it hadn't been for the antiMormon Critics, we would never have found Hap X. I was fine withthe Manasseh thing, but the Hap X cements the truth of LDS teachings.
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CounterCultureLives 11 months ago
joseph smith can suck my sausage
fonosayno 1 year ago
weren't the real israelites black
anthonyu2 1 year ago
I wish these idiot christians would trust DNA evidence when it isn't just debasing opposing religions. I always find it funny that they will rely on genetic testing for court cases and in this case, showing the LDS church for the fraud it is - but when it comes to the Theory of Evolution, and the genetic evidence for that scientific Theory, they are all too willing to turn a blind eye. Hypocrits!
Johnson154 1 year ago
ww w youtube com/watch?v=BwFruS4rpdI
Horses4life1001 1 year ago
who the F is joseph smith
EllaAmore 1 year ago
ploycarp was written about by Irenaeus that he seen and heard of jesus when jhon the apostle wrote the book of jhon. Now that is historical evidence. Now to clarify more, other books of the bible also work work together with what is written. If this doesn't count as evidence of an historical even t than we might as well throw away 90% of history, but we don't because its true. Also Pauline Christianity contradicts and ignores everything said in the bible.
lifecon1 1 year ago
@lifecon1 Polycarp (A.D. 69 – A.D. 155) was a second century Christian bishop of Smyrna. Polycarp has remained figured as a disciple of John the Apostle
Then Polycarp was following gentile Christianity and since John was an apostle of Jesus, he would a have been a Jewish Christian - different in that his belief was fully Jewish, believing in a human messiah - It is impossible for Polycarp to have ever been a disciple of John. Church tradition - nothing more.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@lifecon1 First, John was not penned until the turn of the first century so John had to be 90+. Also, hearssay is not evidence, particularly since numerous "references" were doctored by Christians. For example, the "reference" to Jesus in Josephus was an obvious forgery and the passage did not appear until the 4th century.
smb12321 1 year ago
ok brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, there's no need to debate with the mormons, this is not abt who wins a debate, its more than clear that everything joseph smith claims are lies, all i can think of is that he was a puppet of Satan, these mormon people, dont need us to be mad at them, but let's all pray together so the mormons could open their eyes and be reborn again, i hope they find Christ because He is the only path to Salvation, so please lets start praying in the name of Jesus Christ
Darkzeratulrocky 1 year ago
Lamanites were Mongoloids,,,They are moabites
hebrewmatrix 1 year ago
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I find it funny how they only allow Protestant scholars to be interviewed. If this documentary were worth anything, it would let Mormon scholars speak for themselves and articulate their beliefs rather than allow people at conflict with Mormon theology to say, "this is what they believe and this is why it's wrong."
NorthwestResistance 1 year ago
Mormonism is a cult with Satan as the author. It totally contridicts the Bible, they only believe what they want to believe in the Bible, sorry, but God's Word means what it says and says what it means. Smith claims there were Hebrews in pre-Colonial America, how did they get there and how did they know this continent even existed? If the cities that the book of moron said exisited how come the settlers never saw them? Clearly a fraud.
beatleman69 1 year ago
@beatleman69 - Christianity is a pagan cult as well so don't be too quick to call others the same. Virgin birth, human sacrifice, men gods are all pagan.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
Ye quote the truth of scripture that thou shalt not add unto them, but they proclaim that a man thus received the word of God yet this man Joseph smith has no witness there of, under the laws of God. For they have taken what of God to claim it there own, as does those in bondage under Islam, but taketh that of the devil. Woe unto those who are deluded by the spirit of error for he must deny the spirit of truth to submit to such, as the wrath of God be upon those who set to deceive his children.
SeekTruthinLight 1 year ago
@SeekTruth "Joseph smith has no witness "
Neither does Paul and he is the father of Christianity.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
@Matthew1944 Jesus is the father of Christianity and has over 500 witnesses. and paul's writings also have witnesses outside of the bible....so what are you talking about?
lifecon1 1 year ago
@lifecon1 Jesus was born and died a Jew who preached to Jews who were losing their faith through Hellinization. Paul was the FIRST apostle to the gentiles. He neither studied under Jesus nor his apostles and his teachings are the Pauline Christianity of today. Google Pauline Christianity.
Please list the witness "outside of the bible", lifecon.
Matthew1944 1 year ago
Christians using DNA to disprove what is in the book of mormon what hipocrites
freethinker143 1 year ago 2
@freethinker143 wow you are so ready to blame and claim they are Christians when you have no evidence of that huh? Plus the law of contradiction applies to the book of mormon and every other scripture. since yours contradicts well that means it was always wrong as was realized back then.
lifecon1 1 year ago
being a ex member ...I can tell you that mormonism is the best Con I ever Seen !
TheStephen2009 1 year ago
I find it a bit hypocritical of the Christians here to use DNA to disprove the book of Mormon, however, DNA is evidence for Evolution, but these Christians most likely do not accept that.
Stitchman3875 1 year ago 2
all religion is a fraud. this fraud was easy to expose. the others not so easy, but frauds none the less.
peace, lardo.
lardo444 1 year ago
Broctus2010 a self proclaimed DNA scientist says the following: "Hebrews? dont even match with themselves!" That sounds pretty science-y to me. Then he refers to the "philosophy" in this video. I think a scientist would use the word "hypothesis" as science doesn't have philosophies. Then there's this gem," this video is too lay on the subject, science itself as reffered here is not scientific. I wish I could explain more." I think I have a good idea why he can't explain more.
KraftwithaK 1 year ago
@KraftwithaK Because I only can can put 500 characters, thats why, do your own research, and I do Work with DNA, I tell you my Name: Dr. Tomás de la Maza, MD DDS PhD. And yes modern jews dont match with themselves... And what's your idea why I cant explain more? Bytheway I am chilean, and I did work with DNA until last year (I'm 35) and member of the genealogical institute of Chile
Broctus2010 1 year ago
@KraftwithaK you are not polite, I can tell. Sincerely
Dr. Tomás de la Maza
Broctus2010 1 year ago
I work with DNA, Science has no position to say its true or falso, not yet. Hebrews? dont even match with themselves!. What I'm trying to say is that your opinion is not scientifically correct, the philosophy used in this video is not correct. Smith might be wrong, yes, granted (or right) but as a Scientist I can tell you this video is too lay on the subject, science itself as reffered here is not scientific. I wish I could explain more.
Broctus2010 1 year ago
@Broctus2010 Um, please do explain. How the hell do hebrews not relate to even each other? Surely the fact that Native Americans are of Asian decent is enough to say that they certainly aren't Hebrew.
roadsideflowers 1 year ago
@roadsideflowers Jewish dont match each other becase in order to be a Jew your mother has to be a Jew, so the haplotype (male side/Y Chromosome) wont match,so a Jew can be R1b, or J2, or even e1b. Native Americans are usually Q, are there Q Jews, Yes, Is this enough to say Mormons Book is true, No. Is a deffenete proof its false, No. The truth is: WE DO NOT KNOW!... Sincerely
Dr. Tomás de la Maza (From Chile)
Broctus2010 1 year ago
@Broctus2010 assyrians
anthonyyousif 1 year ago
@anthonyyousif Difficult, Asyrians no longer exist, but i think that there are some DNA test for som Mummies, but I dont know the results. I do know about Tutankamun and Akenathon, they were r1b1b2, that means the guys were "CELTIC" hehehehe, can you imagine?... Does it mean that Egyptians are celtic? No way!... And even if jewish were Q1 dont think that would prove or disprove Smith´s theory. DNA Genetics is just a very young science
Broctus2010 1 year ago
@roadsideflowers fuck jews look up assyrians
anthonyyousif 1 year ago
omg
when are we going to get over silly superstitions like religion ALL religion is just a throwback to the ancient past when we worshiped the sun. Ppl kill die and torture because of contradicting belief's its pathetic. Anyone with a PC and a will to do so can utterly pull any religion to pieces with a few hours.
one day mabie it will take a thousand years ppl will ditch all the crap and start concentrating on making life better for all not what invisible friend they have is the real one
Vimes67934 1 year ago
@Vimes67934 Man I am so glad to have your words because its the truth I wish everyone could just simply look at for what it really is ...thanx for your post!
AtumAsarNeter 1 year ago
religion is only a lie to make money... all religions are 1 big bussines.
nigoroku 1 year ago 2
Give me a break. I spent most of my childhood as a Mormon, and I know for a fact that it is a very screwed up religion and that Joseph Smith was a false prophet who was either a con-man, or led astray by the wrong source. I do believe with all my heart that the Bible is the word of God.
SummerSunshine1988 1 year ago
@thousandlegger! Josepht a Prophet?? where are your tablets?! where are the evidence of ur stories? the bible speak of the Ark..weve found the Ark, it speaks of Soddom and gomorha..weve found it includin the lady in salt, the red sea..weve found it! all the city in the bible exist till today...the book of mormon cities..never founded...yall lost man...and theres only one heaven! not 2...come back to Jesus!
ziggy6464 1 year ago
@ziggy6464 there is no pillar of salt woman nor an ark. burned city's yes. but that's not proof of divine intervention. i'm actually not mormon i just believe in Joe Smith.
thousandlegger 1 year ago
This is bull crap. Joseph smith is our prophet and he is the chosen one. why do you think the angels showed HIM where the Golden Tablets!!!!!!! so there!
thousandlegger 1 year ago
@thousandlegger Yeah right, so did about 1000 other wanabees
BigAlRBe 1 year ago
@BigAlRBe BURN BURN BUUUURRRRNNNN!!!!
thousandlegger 1 year ago
I love how religous people are aware of the flaws of only other religions
El3elmNoor 1 year ago
religious morons ONE and ALL!!! you think the sky fairy made the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th... idiots! talking snakes people living in fish for 3 days..huh wtf... idiots, idiots, idiots...
FUwogs 1 year ago 3
These guys tie with Scientology for the most obviously absurd religion.
justaguyiknow 1 year ago
2. Judges 3:19-25 ESV
And Ehud reached with his left hand, took the sword from his right thigh, and thrust it into his belly. And the hilt also went in after the blade, and the fat closed over the blade, for he did not pull the sword out of his belly; and the dung came out
lizazoon 1 year ago
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Christianity is a test to see if you believe God is invisible, Romans 1:18-23, or is God in the form of a human creature. Paul begins to lie, Romans 3:7, so he later takes scripture out of context Psalms 14 found in Romans 3:10-18, and later Paul says your only hope is the blood of Jesus. But to be a Christian, believe a lie, is not bad, so long as you follow the doctrine of Paul. Jesus never killed so today the doctrine is corrupted. The gospel of John 15:25-27 has prophecy on the Qur'an.
0099wrestler 1 year ago
I like to worship the magical pixy that lives in my left shoe, it feels great! See religion, we are very similer really.
0121ryanh117 2 years ago
@0121ryanh117 - Well played.
kaneweb 1 year ago
So can any ol' guy write a book and call it "the most correct" of any book ever? I suppose anyone could try. We have to use discernment, logic, and authentic scripture to judge it. Scripture speaks nothing of another testament, Logic shows us no physical evidence. Discernment exposes Joseph Smith, Brigham and others as false prophets. Glory to God... not more-man
EVSjahms 2 years ago
"Mr. Duster of NYU calls the business of genetic DNA testing 'an unregulated no-man's land.' " DNA tests help genealogists only so far, The Washington Times, March 11, 2009.
MMMission2007 2 years ago
"The American Society of Human Genetics (ASHG) has similar concerns. The group says that those who undergo ancestry testing often do not realize the tests are probabilistic and can reach incorrect conclusions, causing emotional distress if test results are unexpected or undesired. The ASHG says consumers frequently purchase these tests to learn about their race or ethnicity, yet there is no clear-cut connection between an individual's DNA and racial affiliation." The Washington Times
MMMission2007 2 years ago
"Any company can claim that their laboratories can analyze your DNA to provide accurate information about your ancestry," Mr. Duster says. "But if three different companies provide three different answers [as a report on CBS' "60 Minutes" did in 2007], what is a consumer to do? Which company is correct? There is no way of knowing, since we have no 'gold standard' for excellence or professional self-policing." Troy Duster, DNA tests help genealogists only so far, The Washington Times
MMMission2007 2 years ago
"...as few as two of 64 great-great-great-great grandparents - can be identified with current DNA testing. Genetic DNA tests are quick to rule out whether someone belongs to a particular group, but they don't take into account the entire genetic makeup...testing only takes into account biology, and not affiliation with certain groups by way of language, culture or other customs" Troy Duster, sociology professor at New York University, DNA tests help genealogists only so far, The Washington Times
MMMission2007 2 years ago
thank you for your answers fully intelligent
thank you so much for me and for all who was afactad for this vidio
i agree to tally with you
all the best aways...................
FAFYWARRIOR 1 year ago
Book of mormon is a lie ,I got one and threw it in the trash,I only Read The Holy Bible
8167433 2 years ago
@8167433 the bible is full of lies, stories, contradictions, happpy sayings, genocide, archaic rules that nobody follows, and ideas ripped straight from pagan religions. that's the only book you read? bummer.
thousandlegger 1 year ago 3
People jump to conclusions here! Ther eare many different views on the origin of tribes and many new connections on how these have developed and who came from where are still at a very early stage research wise. Too quick conclusions and to early in research on many things here. When all is at th etable it will be a different story altogetehr, just look at earlier science only few years back!
synnell2001 2 years ago
Joseph smith was falsefied in every aspect but none of his prophecies ever came true. not even the civil war one he said that the war would envelope the entire world. never happened. and dna speaks true you cant deny that and if you are tryin to come up with reasons on why it doesnt prove the they are related to isrealites. that is human reason and thus is a sin joe smith lied about it all the book of abraham was not abrahams book but a death right of a egyptian Nuff said
SuperWAAT 2 years ago
the DNA didn't match because they are comparing hebrew blood from these so called jews slash european slash white people from some mountains near georgia and russia.
ranger1360 2 years ago
I agree. Plus, on a curious side note ever wonder how easy it is for some semitic or arab people to look a lot like hispanics? I know of two instances where Jewish actors, with a slight tan and/or makeup have played roles of a Mexican, and they did it well. I find that interesting. DNA doesn't prove all things, it's like saying the Big Bang Theory is fact and not...well, a "theory". Persecution is nothing new to the people of God. God lives and rules from the heavens He's created...'nuff said!
TheUnderpaidTeacher 2 years ago
Christians are collaterally estopped from criticizing the stupidity of Mormonism, since their religion is equally retarded and defiant of truth and logic.
ExposingTheGOP 2 years ago
@ExposingTheGOP There is some truth to that which places Evangelicals into the hypocrite camp.
Starvalleybotany 2 years ago
It can't be ABSOLUTELY proven...that is the true fraud here! To assume all Native Americans came from 1 strain is very irresponsible - cmon guys! Don't sell yourselves short - this video is as narrow minded as anything I've seen.
EfrajimOilcan 2 years ago 2
Some are dumb enough to set aside eternal gospel truths testified of throughout mans experience on earth & truths now restored by Joseph Smith...simply because they get diverted on some historical issue or some scientific hypothesis not central to their exaltation & in so doing they lose sight of their spiritual birthrite - throwing it away for a "mess of pottage". They exchange the absolute certainty of the Restoration for a single doubt & in that process they fall in trap & lose faith.
EfrajimOilcan 2 years ago
LDS researchers have also focused attention on one genetic haplotype as potentially providing evidence in favor of a link between Hebrew DNA and Native American DNA. The haplotype in question, known as Haplogroup Q or Q-P36, is found in 31% of self-identified Native Americans in the US (Hammer 2005, p. 5).[13] It is also found in 5% of Ashkenazi Jews (Behar 2004, p. 357)[14] and 5% of Iraqi Jews. In addition, a rare branch of Q-P36, called Q-M323, is found in Yemeni Jews (Shen 2004, p. 251).
EfrajimOilcan 2 years ago 3
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Galatians, 1: 8 "but though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you that that which we have preached unto you,, LET HIM BE ACCURSED"
tnfellow 2 years ago