It sounds like you're saying that if someone doesn't believe in Jesus they don't deserve healthcare. I'm a Christian and I think the beginning is going to make people stop the video. I don't really want someone reading the Bible to me in a condescending voice, slowly no less, like I'm to dumb to get it. It's more funny than effective. And the people, mostly too "aggressive". I didn't feel empathy for them, I felt irritation. Sorry.
@CrispianDay Well, first of all, I have a problem with your statement..."I'm a Christian..." and then going on to say that you feel empathy for the misfortunes of those featured in the video. Furthermore, what you may be misinterpreting as condesention and aggression could be passion. For those whom consider themselves "Christians", it should be an embarrassment to anyone like yourself and others who also claim this religion. Aren't you suppose to be loving and caring?
I also do not know how you could possibly interpret from the video how the group could possibly be limiting healthcare coverage to Christians. I know some of the people in this video and they are not professing a religion at all. Thanks for l"etting your light shine" with your apathy and insults. You are in good company with the rest of you who have Jesus as such a center of compassion in your heart. Doesn't your book say something about judging? I think you have of these people.
The real question you have to ask youself is this: Is this the role of gevernment?
EVERYTHING the government does is the result of violence or the threat of violence. Don't believe me? Try not paying your taxes. It will only be a matter of time before your home is surrounded by men in suits.
I think it is IMMORAL to force other people to take care of you with the treat and/or use of violence.
I do not think it is ok to put a gun to my neighbor's head in order get insurance.
I would love for you to answer these questions. If you had no insurance and you got sick or were injured? If you had no one to take care of you? Who would pay for your care? Remember, your cost exceed any money you could possibly save and you have no insurance? What are you going to do?
I tell you what, instead of me answering a bunch of make believe questions, why don't you answer a real question...
Why do you give a crap what I would do if all of those things happened to me?
You have no idea who I am, you have no right to impose your values on me, and you have no right to dictate to me what my medical care should be regardless of what ills befall me.
First point, for many Americans this is not a "make-believe" scenerio. It remains shocking to me that you seem to not see this. Our bodies are at best all aging, there are accidents that can happen, both in the blink of an eye-to anyone. If you are lucky, you may be fortunate enough to have your later than sooner. As well, you may be one of the fortunate Americans that have the money or the insurance to back you up. So many do not.
"Why do you give a crap what I would do if all those things happened to me?" Well, I have been chronically ill for many years, with expensive medication needed to sustain me. I have met a lot of people over the years, many situations of the plight of the uninsured. A person would have to have a cold heart not to care about the misfortunes of another person. At the moment I have great insurance, however I haven't in the past. I hurts me to think of anyone sick without hope and good care.
You do not have a right to force other people to pay for things you "care about" through government coersion just because it would make you feel good. You call yourself peacefulpolitics and yet you embrass an ideology of coersion through the threat and/or actual use of violence.
Your world view is really sad. I really don't believe it is fruitful to continue engaging, as your mentality is completely different than mine. May you be blessed with very good health and great joy in this life.
"If we are the leaders of the industrial world then we should show it"
We are the industrial leaders of the world because we were founded on the principals of individual rights. People who work and produce are able to keep the fruits of their labor. It is the rest of the world who has lived in rejection of these principals.
By becoming like them we are giving up what has made us the leaders of the world. We wouldn't be "leading"... we would be following them into poverty and bondage.
"People who work and produce are able to keep the fruits of their labor." What about those who are unable because of disablility,chronic illness, accident or disease?
This is a incorrect assumption. Medicare and Medicade do not cover all of the services that are needed for those who are in need. Let's suppose you are a hard working individual, but due to the economy- you lost your job, therefore losing insurance you depended on. Let's say you were now in an accident or developed an expensive illlness. Where would you find the resources to care for you? How would you afford, food, medication mortgage, hospialization, surgery?
As well, now that you have a "pre-existing" condition, where will you find an insurance company who will cover the expenses of the illness or the effects of the accident.? Where do you expect to find a job? Who will hire you? If you are ill (think of yourself with the worst of a stomach virus, but it doesn't go away- how can you expect yourself to work? Do you think you will be able to give a new job 100%? In a competive market, you will have to! True life scenerio, sadly many times over.
The reason our healthcare is so expensive is because we have the best in the world. Other nations are able to provide it cheaply because they capitalize on our research and innovation.
Socializing healthcare here will lower the quality of life for pretty much everyone in the world. The scenerio you outline refers to maybe a tiny fraction of US but socialized medicine will make things worse for everyone in the US and hurt foreign markets, as well.
Okay, let's assume all of those variable line up as you suppose, there are literally thousands of non-profits and charities in this country ready and willing to help you.
A complete government takeover of healthcare is not justified. Socialized medicine will lead to less innovation and worse healthcare for everyone in the long run.
Heathcare in the US is superior to that of Europe and Canada. We have longer survival rates for terminal diseases such as cancer. People like to say we have worse infant mortality but that is because more infants make it out of the womb in the US due to our superior prenatal care which results in higher infant deaths than in countries were more ill children die in the womb. Our life expectancy is even better when you control for things like auto accidents.
LOL! I think you would be well advised to check your figures with the World Health Organization. I've researched this subject since January and according to the most recent figures with WHO, the US is ranked one of the LOWEST for infant mortality (the only country lower than the US is Bosnia) ... and we rank far lower than other industrialized countries compared to what we spend per GDP.
Would you please site your sources about Europe and Canada, the survial rates for terminal diseases.
The life expectancy issue...there are surely things that can be done to prevent auto accidents, but the only person we can control is ourself in this regard. What about the other guy driving under the influence or driving significantly over the speed limit. If that person hits you...you have no insurance. What will you do?
Life expentancy is even better? That just depends if you are LUCKY
Source is online at World Health Organization Rankings. The United States ranks 37th ... just above Slovenia and below most other industrialized countries.
A link at that site provides specific data on studies...note the following comment I extracted from one study: United States spends more than twice as much on each person for health care as most other industrialized countries. But it has fallen to last place among those countries in preventing deaths through use of timely and effective medical care, according to the report by the Commonwealth Fund, a nonprofit research group in New York.
Futher, according to the World Health Organization France ranks #1, United Kingdom #18, and Canada #30...followed by the US at #37. If this doesn't tell us that we need health care reform, I don't know what will.
The problem with these rankings is that it only shows that the average person in the US lives slightly less than the average person in other countries. That does not prove anything about insurance, though.
More people die from auto accidents in the US than any other country, more people die of obesity related issues in the US, these are lifesytle issues and nothing more.
Not to mention more of our young die in battle to protect the lifestyles of people in Europe and Canada.
WebMD is one that shows recent research reveals that the US has the highest survival rates in the world for breast and prostate cancer. Canada did fairly well too (they can come to America for treatment) but the UK is not so lucky.
"Survival rates are based on the number of patients who are alive five years after diagnosis and researchers found that, for women, England was the fifth worst in a league of 22 countries... experts blamed late diagnosis and long waiting lists." - Daily Telegram.
Yes, like most of the uninsured in this country, when I was younger I decided not to purchase insurance and spent my money on things like rent and college, instead.
It's difficult to know how to respond because we certainly have completely different mentalities and understanding about healthcare. Really and truly, you need to ask yourself what you would do without your job/insurance? It can happen to you, trust me. The comment you removed suggested that the people in this country without insurance are the young and the illegal aliens. NOT TRUE! Where do you get this one?
Do you believe in that you are invinsible? How about everyone you love?
Amen! 83% of the 2200 individuals cared for at today's free health care clinic in KS are among the working poor and w/o insurance. A large number of companies perfer to work their employees for 35 hours which disqualifies them for
So which health care reform you want? Obama care or gingrich care?
geraldmartinez360 2 months ago
It sound like socialism, madam.
geraldmartinez360 2 months ago
It sounds like you're saying that if someone doesn't believe in Jesus they don't deserve healthcare. I'm a Christian and I think the beginning is going to make people stop the video. I don't really want someone reading the Bible to me in a condescending voice, slowly no less, like I'm to dumb to get it. It's more funny than effective. And the people, mostly too "aggressive". I didn't feel empathy for them, I felt irritation. Sorry.
CrispianDay 2 years ago
@CrispianDay Well, first of all, I have a problem with your statement..."I'm a Christian..." and then going on to say that you feel empathy for the misfortunes of those featured in the video. Furthermore, what you may be misinterpreting as condesention and aggression could be passion. For those whom consider themselves "Christians", it should be an embarrassment to anyone like yourself and others who also claim this religion. Aren't you suppose to be loving and caring?
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
@peacefulpolitics Correction...that you DIDN'T feel empathy"
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
@CrispianDay
I also do not know how you could possibly interpret from the video how the group could possibly be limiting healthcare coverage to Christians. I know some of the people in this video and they are not professing a religion at all. Thanks for l"etting your light shine" with your apathy and insults. You are in good company with the rest of you who have Jesus as such a center of compassion in your heart. Doesn't your book say something about judging? I think you have of these people.
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
The real question you have to ask youself is this: Is this the role of gevernment?
EVERYTHING the government does is the result of violence or the threat of violence. Don't believe me? Try not paying your taxes. It will only be a matter of time before your home is surrounded by men in suits.
I think it is IMMORAL to force other people to take care of you with the treat and/or use of violence.
I do not think it is ok to put a gun to my neighbor's head in order get insurance.
m371514 2 years ago
@m371514
I would love for you to answer these questions. If you had no insurance and you got sick or were injured? If you had no one to take care of you? Who would pay for your care? Remember, your cost exceed any money you could possibly save and you have no insurance? What are you going to do?
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
Rhetorical questions are so fun.
I tell you what, instead of me answering a bunch of make believe questions, why don't you answer a real question...
Why do you give a crap what I would do if all of those things happened to me?
You have no idea who I am, you have no right to impose your values on me, and you have no right to dictate to me what my medical care should be regardless of what ills befall me.
m371514 2 years ago
First point, for many Americans this is not a "make-believe" scenerio. It remains shocking to me that you seem to not see this. Our bodies are at best all aging, there are accidents that can happen, both in the blink of an eye-to anyone. If you are lucky, you may be fortunate enough to have your later than sooner. As well, you may be one of the fortunate Americans that have the money or the insurance to back you up. So many do not.
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
"Why do you give a crap what I would do if all those things happened to me?" Well, I have been chronically ill for many years, with expensive medication needed to sustain me. I have met a lot of people over the years, many situations of the plight of the uninsured. A person would have to have a cold heart not to care about the misfortunes of another person. At the moment I have great insurance, however I haven't in the past. I hurts me to think of anyone sick without hope and good care.
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
You do not have a right to force other people to pay for things you "care about" through government coersion just because it would make you feel good. You call yourself peacefulpolitics and yet you embrass an ideology of coersion through the threat and/or actual use of violence.
m371514 2 years ago
@m371514
Your world view is really sad. I really don't believe it is fruitful to continue engaging, as your mentality is completely different than mine. May you be blessed with very good health and great joy in this life.
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
My world view is sad? I am not the one trying to use the most powerful government in the world to force other people to take care of my every need...
m371514 2 years ago
"If we are the leaders of the industrial world then we should show it"
We are the industrial leaders of the world because we were founded on the principals of individual rights. People who work and produce are able to keep the fruits of their labor. It is the rest of the world who has lived in rejection of these principals.
By becoming like them we are giving up what has made us the leaders of the world. We wouldn't be "leading"... we would be following them into poverty and bondage.
m371514 2 years ago
"People who work and produce are able to keep the fruits of their labor." What about those who are unable because of disablility,chronic illness, accident or disease?
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
They already have Medicare and Medicaid...
m371514 2 years ago
This is a incorrect assumption. Medicare and Medicade do not cover all of the services that are needed for those who are in need. Let's suppose you are a hard working individual, but due to the economy- you lost your job, therefore losing insurance you depended on. Let's say you were now in an accident or developed an expensive illlness. Where would you find the resources to care for you? How would you afford, food, medication mortgage, hospialization, surgery?
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
As well, now that you have a "pre-existing" condition, where will you find an insurance company who will cover the expenses of the illness or the effects of the accident.? Where do you expect to find a job? Who will hire you? If you are ill (think of yourself with the worst of a stomach virus, but it doesn't go away- how can you expect yourself to work? Do you think you will be able to give a new job 100%? In a competive market, you will have to! True life scenerio, sadly many times over.
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
The reason our healthcare is so expensive is because we have the best in the world. Other nations are able to provide it cheaply because they capitalize on our research and innovation.
Socializing healthcare here will lower the quality of life for pretty much everyone in the world. The scenerio you outline refers to maybe a tiny fraction of US but socialized medicine will make things worse for everyone in the US and hurt foreign markets, as well.
m371514 2 years ago
Okay, let's assume all of those variable line up as you suppose, there are literally thousands of non-profits and charities in this country ready and willing to help you.
A complete government takeover of healthcare is not justified. Socialized medicine will lead to less innovation and worse healthcare for everyone in the long run.
m371514 2 years ago
Heathcare in the US is superior to that of Europe and Canada. We have longer survival rates for terminal diseases such as cancer. People like to say we have worse infant mortality but that is because more infants make it out of the womb in the US due to our superior prenatal care which results in higher infant deaths than in countries were more ill children die in the womb. Our life expectancy is even better when you control for things like auto accidents.
m371514 2 years ago
LOL! I think you would be well advised to check your figures with the World Health Organization. I've researched this subject since January and according to the most recent figures with WHO, the US is ranked one of the LOWEST for infant mortality (the only country lower than the US is Bosnia) ... and we rank far lower than other industrialized countries compared to what we spend per GDP.
Tasso5798 2 years ago
Would you please site your sources about Europe and Canada, the survial rates for terminal diseases.
The life expectancy issue...there are surely things that can be done to prevent auto accidents, but the only person we can control is ourself in this regard. What about the other guy driving under the influence or driving significantly over the speed limit. If that person hits you...you have no insurance. What will you do?
Life expentancy is even better? That just depends if you are LUCKY
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
Source is online at World Health Organization Rankings. The United States ranks 37th ... just above Slovenia and below most other industrialized countries.
Tasso5798 2 years ago
A link at that site provides specific data on studies...note the following comment I extracted from one study: United States spends more than twice as much on each person for health care as most other industrialized countries. But it has fallen to last place among those countries in preventing deaths through use of timely and effective medical care, according to the report by the Commonwealth Fund, a nonprofit research group in New York.
Tasso5798 2 years ago
Futher, according to the World Health Organization France ranks #1, United Kingdom #18, and Canada #30...followed by the US at #37. If this doesn't tell us that we need health care reform, I don't know what will.
Tasso5798 2 years ago
The problem with these rankings is that it only shows that the average person in the US lives slightly less than the average person in other countries. That does not prove anything about insurance, though.
More people die from auto accidents in the US than any other country, more people die of obesity related issues in the US, these are lifesytle issues and nothing more.
Not to mention more of our young die in battle to protect the lifestyles of people in Europe and Canada.
m371514 2 years ago
WebMD is one that shows recent research reveals that the US has the highest survival rates in the world for breast and prostate cancer. Canada did fairly well too (they can come to America for treatment) but the UK is not so lucky.
"Survival rates are based on the number of patients who are alive five years after diagnosis and researchers found that, for women, England was the fifth worst in a league of 22 countries... experts blamed late diagnosis and long waiting lists." - Daily Telegram.
m371514 2 years ago
Have you ever been without healthcare?
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
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m371514 2 years ago
Yes, like most of the uninsured in this country, when I was younger I decided not to purchase insurance and spent my money on things like rent and college, instead.
m371514 2 years ago
It's difficult to know how to respond because we certainly have completely different mentalities and understanding about healthcare. Really and truly, you need to ask yourself what you would do without your job/insurance? It can happen to you, trust me. The comment you removed suggested that the people in this country without insurance are the young and the illegal aliens. NOT TRUE! Where do you get this one?
Do you believe in that you are invinsible? How about everyone you love?
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
What charities are you speaking of??? Please name a few that could "take care" of the millions of American's who are without healthcare to date.
I don't see many charities stepping up historically or currently. If they were true, there would be no need for change.
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
Amen! 83% of the 2200 individuals cared for at today's free health care clinic in KS are among the working poor and w/o insurance. A large number of companies perfer to work their employees for 35 hours which disqualifies them for
employer based health insurance.
Tasso5798 2 years ago
If I could have convinced more slaves that they were slaves, I could have freed thousands more.
Harriet Tubman (1822 1913)
NCVFP 2 years ago
Very sincere! There must be change!!!
peacefulpolitics 2 years ago
Thanks for making this video. Single Payer Now. Single Payer is the only real answer.
Textynn 2 years ago
wonderful considerate caring people working to make a difference, heart-warming and encouraging
funnyfoodguy 2 years ago