I'm will to bet some moron who was talking on their cell phone in their car and not paying attention pulled out in front of the truck and the driver tried to react but lost control. Unfortunately it happens too often, its one thing that I worry about when responding to fire myself.
it was an accident.They were probably trying to get to the scene as quickly as possible.Put yourself in the person whose property was ablaze and tell me,wouldn't you want the firefighters there as quickly as possible? They wanted to get their b4 someone was hurt or property was lost.If you look at the all the accidents around the US and you will see firefighter accidents are among the lowest.So support all the firefighters.
@MrDanieldb Nope...no training at all...They just find the first person willing to drive and say GO!!! Yes, they receive training prior to being promoted to an apparatus operator or engineer position. It involves a written test, driving test and in some departments an oral interview as well. In addition, the driver also has to obtain a class A license from the DMV prior to promotion. Its an accident man...Nobody needs to be fired!!!
its easy to flip any fire apparatus due to it being so top heavy...tillers were basically designed to fit it very tight city like areas...beacause you can swing the ass end out wide and straighten ur self out..if the tractor portion were to turn right down an alley the tiller man who rides in the rear will actually turn opposite so the ass end kicks out and straightens it...
yes sort of but it is not your typical 5th weel. the ladder turn table and trailer (if you will) are atleast from what ive seen are permenatly hitched to the tractor. its rather interesting tho cuz other than the cab and the ladder the entier unit is built in one bay. the ladder is put on at a diffrent plant. i should rephrase what i do the rool up doors that you see on the trailer body i put those on
They must back the tractor into the ladder unit once its finished then attach it? That must be one big bay because aren't tillers longer then a typical ladder truck?
actually as soon as the tractor is drivable its attached to the body frame then backed into the tiiller bay, then the body is assymbled bottom up sometimes with a little water tank most of the time with out. and the cab comes equiped with any basic option you want ems compartmants single axel dual axel any thing. i dont know the exact length of a tiller but im pretty sure its shorter than your standard 53' semi
Interesting..Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me, I've always wondered how those were built. I've seen on Ultimate Factories how your 100' ladder truck is built, I wish they would do another one this time building a tiller.
i can not find that video any were on the internet wish i could. not many people know this but oshkosh truck is a parent company to pierce along with JLG scissors lifts jerdann tow trucks and theres more lol but i cant spell it for shit so i cant tell ya but its garbage trucks
I can't find the video of Ultimate factories being at Pierce watching the 100' ladder truck being built either. I have it recorded on DVR though! :D I knew that Oshkosh truck was a parent company of pierce because they talked about it in that segment when they talked about the TAK4 suspension that pierce has on their trucks that oshkosh orignally developed
The rear counter stear for the tiller or rear operator was correct, the driver (front guy) took the turn WAY too fast. Slow down, the equipment and personnel do no good if you don't make it to the call!
@jlokers That's not always true. Sometimes the tillerman never turns to wheel and just lets the tractor take him through the intersection. Both turning the same direction should not have flipped the rig unless it was a severe, sudden turn. Having tillered a ladder with the City Of Albany, NY for many years I just can't see how that would have happened. However, I wasn't there so I'm just guessing at this point.
@HilaryHaylieRocks08 Ok what happened was the guy in front was going WAY TOO FAST and tried to take the turn, guy in the back couldnt turn quick enough. The tillerman is a family friend of ours
I'm will to bet some moron who was talking on their cell phone in their car and not paying attention pulled out in front of the truck and the driver tried to react but lost control. Unfortunately it happens too often, its one thing that I worry about when responding to fire myself.
alexandermakrianis 1 month ago
There's about $650,000 now made useless.
peacewavenow 7 months ago
it was an accident.They were probably trying to get to the scene as quickly as possible.Put yourself in the person whose property was ablaze and tell me,wouldn't you want the firefighters there as quickly as possible? They wanted to get their b4 someone was hurt or property was lost.If you look at the all the accidents around the US and you will see firefighter accidents are among the lowest.So support all the firefighters.
wannabenj 9 months ago
what year was the truck?
RBujak729 1 year ago
@RBujak729 That i'm not sure of.
zachm2448 1 year ago
Do these guys get any training? Somebody needs to be fired.
MrDanieldb 1 year ago
@MrDanieldb Nope...no training at all...They just find the first person willing to drive and say GO!!! Yes, they receive training prior to being promoted to an apparatus operator or engineer position. It involves a written test, driving test and in some departments an oral interview as well. In addition, the driver also has to obtain a class A license from the DMV prior to promotion. Its an accident man...Nobody needs to be fired!!!
TheMatkins83 10 months ago
That.......would really suck
PLINGMAN777777 1 year ago
At 10 if you look at the skid marks you can tell they took the corner way to fast
TheMaster592 1 year ago
im not cleaning that up
ziggerification 1 year ago
got a headset?
jpbnuangel 1 year ago
its easy to flip any fire apparatus due to it being so top heavy...tillers were basically designed to fit it very tight city like areas...beacause you can swing the ass end out wide and straighten ur self out..if the tractor portion were to turn right down an alley the tiller man who rides in the rear will actually turn opposite so the ass end kicks out and straightens it...
firemanguppie27 2 years ago
thats a pierce rig not cheap i make them
srt4crazy289 2 years ago
Question for you then. How are Tiller's built? Is it just a tractor unit thats hooked to the ladder portion or how does that work?
arohn2007 2 years ago
yes sort of but it is not your typical 5th weel. the ladder turn table and trailer (if you will) are atleast from what ive seen are permenatly hitched to the tractor. its rather interesting tho cuz other than the cab and the ladder the entier unit is built in one bay. the ladder is put on at a diffrent plant. i should rephrase what i do the rool up doors that you see on the trailer body i put those on
srt4crazy289 2 years ago
They must back the tractor into the ladder unit once its finished then attach it? That must be one big bay because aren't tillers longer then a typical ladder truck?
arohn2007 2 years ago
actually as soon as the tractor is drivable its attached to the body frame then backed into the tiiller bay, then the body is assymbled bottom up sometimes with a little water tank most of the time with out. and the cab comes equiped with any basic option you want ems compartmants single axel dual axel any thing. i dont know the exact length of a tiller but im pretty sure its shorter than your standard 53' semi
srt4crazy289 2 years ago
Interesting..Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me, I've always wondered how those were built. I've seen on Ultimate Factories how your 100' ladder truck is built, I wish they would do another one this time building a tiller.
arohn2007 2 years ago
i can not find that video any were on the internet wish i could. not many people know this but oshkosh truck is a parent company to pierce along with JLG scissors lifts jerdann tow trucks and theres more lol but i cant spell it for shit so i cant tell ya but its garbage trucks
srt4crazy289 2 years ago
I can't find the video of Ultimate factories being at Pierce watching the 100' ladder truck being built either. I have it recorded on DVR though! :D I knew that Oshkosh truck was a parent company of pierce because they talked about it in that segment when they talked about the TAK4 suspension that pierce has on their trucks that oshkosh orignally developed
arohn2007 2 years ago
The rear counter stear for the tiller or rear operator was correct, the driver (front guy) took the turn WAY too fast. Slow down, the equipment and personnel do no good if you don't make it to the call!
jokker73 2 years ago
dumb ass!!!!
keithpender 2 years ago
I agree with you, that was weird question to ask. I would think it would be really easy to flip those things if your not careful
arohn2007 2 years ago
@arohn2007 there are no stupid questions in the fire service.... good to learn new things
mikeUSMC0311 2 years ago
How in the world do u flip a tiller??
HilaryHaylieRocks08 2 years ago
guy in front turned one way, guy in the back turned the other way.
zachm2448 2 years ago
uhhh thats how tillers work, rear turns opposite that the front does. they both turned the same way to flip it
jlokers 2 years ago
damn shame you were not there to coach them then
zachm2448 2 years ago
@jlokers That's not always true. Sometimes the tillerman never turns to wheel and just lets the tractor take him through the intersection. Both turning the same direction should not have flipped the rig unless it was a severe, sudden turn. Having tillered a ladder with the City Of Albany, NY for many years I just can't see how that would have happened. However, I wasn't there so I'm just guessing at this point.
Wonkawillie77 1 year ago
@zachm2448 Or they fly around the corner way to fast.
68Engine68 1 year ago
@68Engine68 That too. I don't really know what it was to be honest. But whatever it was i'm sure it was avoidable.
zachm2448 1 year ago
@zachm2448 Yeah deffinatly, its all fun and games till you roll the tiller.
68Engine68 1 year ago
@HilaryHaylieRocks08 Ok what happened was the guy in front was going WAY TOO FAST and tried to take the turn, guy in the back couldnt turn quick enough. The tillerman is a family friend of ours
awatters1993 1 year ago
@awatters1993 ohh ok gotcha thanks
HilaryHaylieRocks08 1 year ago
You said left right? Right, no left!
SPACECADET2U 2 years ago