i agree it is not good for women. i am a woman forced to get a degree and go out into the work force. i would give anything to come home and do what i loved and was really good at. fem is a lie..it is a agenda . and we are harmed by it. it is not serving. i have been married 26 yrs and my husband would gladly let me come home..but i can't.
I lived my life thinking that feminism was nothing more than people seeking equal rights for women. I have talked with many like minded people, and we really don't focus on the negatives of men or marriage, we simply discuss what we can do to better ourselves and society. But I live out in the boones, maybe feminism is more extreme in the cities, I don't know. I am sorry, I just don't follow you.
@napajedlacek You mean Feminism like that of Simone de Beauvoir, a daughter of a devout Catholic? While many influential Feminists are of Jewish descent, many are not. And there is little in Orthodox Judaism which justifies Feminism. Synagogues are for men...
@kipkayify Feminism has won everything it was fighting for. I mean everything that had any meaning. I do not say that it was always good for the society (I am of the opposite view in fact), but it had a meaning, a sense, and a direction. Now it's just slut walks, telling men not to rape. No meaning, no sense, and no direction.
@leostomicek Indeed. In the western world, the early stages of Feminism were harmless. They told women that they could vote, they were valuable and just as good as men, and should be more than little dolls. That is a great thing. However, nowadays I see nothing of meaning. The only "feminism" I support is helping women in third world countries, who are beaten and raped and who knows what else. However, I label myself as a humanist. We can't advance if we focus on only one gender.
@kipkayify Actually the first organised women's movements were about controlling men, in sixteenth century England they rallied against coffee houses because men spent too much time in them talking about politics and such. They rallied against prostitution, and for the age of consent. Now in America you cannot bang a 16 year old when you are 25, although the 16 year old is perfectly ready and often willing to have sex. They also rallied against alcohol leading to prohibition.
@leostomicek a 16 yr old child is too young to be having sex especially with a man of 25 yrs old. the kid is still in school and the man has life experiences and should be with a woman not a child. i think u are a little sick and would like laws " period" to be in facor of letting you run wild and rape kids. sick bastard.
@leostomicek And on a side note, I don't often see western feminists supporting helping their sisters in third world countries. As you said, I see slut walks, telling women to behave like men, to never get pregnant, and blaming men for everything. I meet very few feminists who are truly fair and for equality.
@kipkayify I actually know of Feminists supporting women in the third world. I think there is a United Nations organisation which does just that. I am of the opinion that women in the third world should help themselves, which they often do. We Westerners have no business sticking our hands in other people's affairs. And in terms of action we can do very little anyway in my opinion.
Feminism is not for women, it is for women who are not feminine, Homosexuals and all of those who have a complicated sexuality and complicated gender.
It's ironic that in their quest for equality women have mimicked the very men they claimed to be against. Oppose something by being just as nasty. Works in war, works in politics, does not work in civil rights.
I like it how a man decides what's good for a woman and what's not.
Men were forced into the military due to the draft in past years but I'm always shocked how men laying down their lives (by choice when the draft has not been used for decades) or men building buildings or things that they actually can choose to do, are thrown about in feminist videos which is glaringly ad hominem.
i see that males use the word feminism to describe every time they get rejected. just shut your mouths and get a job, boys. those great days when women couldn't vote or get a divorce are over. deal with it.
I would like to not be a feminist but men expect me to pay for half the meal and half the bills and I need to pay for a car to get to work.. If I could find a respectful man who paid for everything then I wouldn't be a feminist.
You're right. Men are also to blame in all that moral decay. If they expect you to do that, they are not real men any more. And that's precisely the aim of feminism :destroying manhood .
@SuzLa1 Unfortunately, the laws in the west are terribly stilted against men, and the very poor track record of women of late makes it difficult for men to trust them once they figure this out. Why don't you inform your date of this? Tell him that you want to have a normal relationship. Men and women lived for thousands of years without dumb political movements, so clearly it can be done. Women have the power to deny the temptation of feminism.
@EvilsOfFeminism I don't understand what you mean, as if a woman is married to an abusive man and leaves him for her mental good, how is she expected to live if she can't have equal rights with employment etc? Or do you think women should be abused and stay with the man?
@SuzLa1 Do you think that women are the abused? Do you think that men are the abusers? If those are the terms you think in, you would never understand a single rational thought. And yes, I did not my wife when she was violent. I risked much. I lost much. I will never change. I will never hear the selfish sirens' calls--for they are to the rocks. I already know what selfish women would do--they would make up a story and blame the man. Why not? They get a free house and such for SELFISHNESS.
@EvilsOfFeminism So because your wife was nasty, you take it out on all other women? What a twisted nasty person. Men like you would rather see most women be their slaves and ruining their bodies having children and having sex for you, and then leave them on the streets with nothing.
@SuzLa1 Yup, that's exactly right. There was no consideration for the rights of women, EVER, which is how humanity became the dominant species on Earth. Do you seriously listen to yourself? Her nastiness is INSTITUTIONALIZED, you classic case of pro-feminist. You can literally hear about "men" being left on the streets with nothing and turn that into "women." You also redefine slavery for "men" as somehow "women." One seriously cannot buy this kind of stupid.
@EvilsOfFeminism THE VERY POOR TRACK RECORD OF WOMEN OF LATE?????????????????
bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i know, remember those great thousands of years when women couldn't vote or were constantly abused by husbands? DAMN THOSE DUMB POLITICAL MOVEMENTS.
you are so fucking stupid it should be a crime. i can just imagine what an ugly fucking virgin you are. you know nothing. congress is 84% male. laws are stitled against ugly fucking losers like you.
@karlsmith00 Do you have proof that women were constantly abused by husbands for thousands of years? Female on male violence is more common in the States and the UK. And you have nothing but personal attacks and shaming language? That, what, I must be horrible because you don't want me to say what I'm saying? Fuck you. Spineless provocatuers such as you would never step on the dueling field in broad daylight. But I would. Remember that, bitch.
@EvilsOfFeminism look at this idiot. you actually think you can lie, oink through your teeth, and get away with it.
yeah? besides the fact that males are the vast majority of ALL violent criminals and commit 96% of murders? and that men are 5 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier on average than women? and that men aren't going to hospitals or calling police, because there would be a record? and in islam (followed by 20% of the world) it's completely LEGAL?
@EvilsOfFeminism now, all of a sudden WOMEN HAVE JUST BECOME MORE VIOLENT THAN MEN IN THE PAST WHAT, 10 YEARS?
i guess that's why women are on a mass rape rampage in the congo. why old women marry and abuse young boys in places like yemen and india. that's why egyptian females are gang raping male journalists. instead of the other way around.
you're a psychotic male who needs meds and a job. you know nothing. MEN SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ONLINE WITHOUT A TEST. you should have been aborted.
@EvilsOfFeminism and yes, just in case you were wondering, i do have proof. it's called human history.
instructions on how men can beat their wives have been on record since the code of hammurabi. but it's not my job to teach insane bitches like you who need sense knocked into them.
i don't care how fat and ugly you are or that you're a 50 year old virgin. you don't belong online. you should be out on a highway picking up trash. get help before you snap and shoot a congresswoman.
How kind of those selfless and great men to lay down their lives in the wars just to protect the women folk!
I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with the forced conscription or the fact that women were not allowed to serve in the military because they were considered weaker beings...
@MESSYEAHH yeah cause female soldier batalions would do so well when they get their period during war time, also guns and tanks in those theys were heavy and hard to operate which would make it simply impossible for them do even do the work, they would all be killed. if the us sent women to fight the nazi's, we would be speaking german in europe now
Feminism has indeed produced negative effects in women: selfishness, greed, restlessness, discontent, arrogance, manipulativeness, resentment, paranoia, shallowness, and narcissism, just to name a few.
@KhagarBalugrak could you explain what exactly in your opinion the ideal woman would be like? ps that description seems to fit american men perfectly.
@uranusisnotfunny, the ideal woman doesn't exist. One of the things we need to do, both men and women, is accept that we will never find the "ideal" partner or "the one" or "the perfect soulmate". There is no such thing, and to make that type of demand upon anyone is nothing short of tyrannical.
And yes, American men commonly use women for sex and manipulate them. But American women don't even acknowledge the humanity of men, and see them as objects...which is even worse.
@KhagarBalugrak how can you be sure? ideals are like a map that help you reach your destination. it is unrealistic to expect total perfection and fulfillment from another. we do however have greater compatability with one person than another. compatability coupled with similar values and goals can make the difference between growing together and drifting apart. i tell you i am a woman and respect and value men and try to be kind to them, even when they are undeserving. change begins with us!
Um in what families has feminism been incorporated? All I hear is that men are slacking off and have the same expectations of women + they have to work, and be extremely beautiful, more so than before.
Despite the fact that women HAVE more education, guess who still gets paid less and has less opportunities of being hired?
"Laid down their lives for women's safety" damsel in distress again?! Let's grow up.
Poor wimyns. They want it all and find out how hard it is to have a family and a job. How easy do you think it was in the 1800's when women had 8 kids because there was no birth control. Men didn't prevent women from working. Women didn't want to work. How could they will all those kids and everything had to be done by hand! Today women have vacuums, fast food, appliances, and running water and only 2.3 kids and they still can't compete in the workplace.
What's more is women demand complete control over the family. I've never seen a woman who would marry a man who wanted to be the primary child care provider. You spit on men who don't work so we work. And what bothers you is we do it better than you. It ain't hard to do though since women choose family over work and force men to choose work over family. The sexism is all yours. We are the victims of women. We are the property of women. Always have been.
I don't spit on anyone. I don't speak for all women, and you don't speak for all men. What man wants to be the "primary child care provider"? I don't understand...if you mean that supposedly no woman wants to marry a man who will take on responsibily, obviously you don't know me. I am with someone who is willing to. "And what bothers you is we do it better than you. " Do what better? Most men I've seen do not understand how to take care of kids.
Who says those things? It's not feminists. You are trying really hard here to portray men as victims. Feminism is mroe complicated than "equal rights" and it's nothing about "special rights". The inability for you to perceive things off a polarity between one extreme and another, is why you cannot understand anything outside your own view points. And rape is violent. Many women continue to be beat by their husbands as well. Your definition obviously centres only on male violence.
It's not hard at all to portray men as victims. It is hard to convince ideologues like yourself that women are not the only victims.
You've obviously not read Linda Kelly's excellent piece called "Disabusing the Definition of Domestic Abuse:"
Read it and come and tell me men do all the violence.
Here's a cliffs note: Women commit twice as much child abuse. Mothers murder more children than all the pedophiles and child rapists combined. Women commit just as much DV as men.
Being with a man who wants to isn't the same as seeking out a man who wants to. I've never seen an Online dating profile where a woman said she wanted to support a man who stayed home and took care of baby. NEVER. Why? Because women want what women have always wanted. To stay home themselves and enjoy the income that their husband provides while they enjoy the family. And of course call it all "equal".
"We are the victims of women. We are the property of women. Always have been. "
...seriously what kind of history have you been learning? For the longest time women were the official property of men. How are men the victims when patriarchy continues to this day. When women still cannot do most things that men can. When you walk home at night, do you have your keys ready? Do you have 911 dialed in your phone just in case? You don't understand why someone would do that because you're not a woman.
Actually yes. Every man must be prepared for violence and he must accept the consequences if he is not. Should he be beaten by another man society largely turns a blind eye unless the capture and prosecution of his attacker is relatively easy.
For the record it is MEN who suffer the lions share of violence. Not women. And yet it is women who receive the lions share of gov't funding for their person protection.
By refusing to acknowledge that men are more often victims of violence you ARE spitting on men. By demanding more sympathy for whatever violence you do experience and demanding more protection you ARE spitting on men.
If women demand more because of your "special" needs then you are not seeking equal rights but special rights.
And don't even get me started on false accusations of rape which outnumber actual rape. Talk about spitting on men.
@passionalist Be careful, you will get replies from so many 9-popped-collars douchebags when posting on these videos. I've been getting replies for months on old-ass posts and very few of the people who reply actually read what you've written or at least they don't consider it. They just want to tell you how it is in their minds. It's very difficult to find a men's rights group that is about equality, instead of "we hate women" (I have only found one).
@EMIRIzilla Thanks, I've noticed. I just hope that these posts represent a small minority of "men". I would like to believe that more men in our society respect women than hate them and want them back in the kitchen. It also seems to me that the reason why they hate women is because they feel threatened that they're not as superior as they would like to believe. Maybe these people will never change, but at least I try. I know there are real men out there who respect independent women.
@passionalist Absolutely there are still real, respectful non-hateful men out there. It's like the rest of the world, the content majority is never the most noticed. Still, the majority does tend to make off-handed sexist jokes or use sexist language. It's hurtful to hear daily, but it's not as unproductive and as awful as talking to the ridiculous extremists you find on here. I've found my time is much better spent telling my friends & family that it's not okay to use "girl" as an insult.
or spending my time telling my guy friends why it's not okay to shout things out windows at women and telling them of my sexual harassment experiences, so they don't do that shit.
They actually have an open mind and are just doing things out of ignorance of the effects, as opposed to doing it purposefully out of spite/jealousy/hatred.
@EMIRIzilla Haha very true. What I learned in my Violence Against Women class however is that ignorance is often not the reason why men engage in Sexual Harassment. For example, if you ask a guy how he feels if he were being "checked out" in the same way, he feels uncomfortable. That must mean that to some degree, he understands the woman's feelings. Often, they know it's not right but use ignorance as a way to justify themselves. We also talked about how it's usually when guys gather in groups
@EMIRIzilla It's when they are in groups that they act that way. Men may not degrade women, at least not to the same extent, when they are by themselves, but when in a group it becomes supposedly a game to them. I don't necessarily feel that sorry for men, but I do realize that it must suck to be a man and have to engage in these actions, especially if you don't believe in them, as a way to constantly reassert that you are a "man".
well be happy to 'grow up' and turn a blind eye to that fact, when women are the ones that are forced to sign up for selective service (draft) while men dont. until then SHUT THE FUCK UP. i guarantee you if it really was the other way around, youd be up in arms
Go overseas. Feminism in the west is known throughout the world and many non-western women disdain (from my traveling experience) it. Countries such as Russia have an abundant population of women (1 man to 6 women) and are seeking us western men. (in fact, us western men are considered to be great prizes overseas)
It doesn't matter where you find a woman. If you bring her back to the states it doesn't take long for her to figure out she owns you. And even if she's an angel, once the divorce is filed the courts will take over and strip you of your property and children regardless of how much you hates or doesn't hate you.
Marriage is a sham. Women, so long as they promote feminism either through activity or silence, are haters of men.
@gamenode Yeah well, the idea is that you hook up w/ her and LEAVE HER in her own country instead of bringing her back here. That way, you can control how she is to you and don't have to worry about her being a snob.
I am so over women. Reproduction/sex is just another way women own and control men. The moment you can get away from that is the moment you liberate yourself from the guilt and shame that women heap on men for not being able to get laid or for not being married, or for not doing whatever it is they want you to do because they are unwilling to do.
A real man doesn't allow others to define what a real man is. Especially not women.
@gamenode which is why the men should start going for those cute little barbie doll toys and stuffed animals out there ;) especially the stuffed animals! they'll never hurt you and you can always trust them.
What do you think women are? Objects for your pleasure? Wake up...WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO! And if you think that you will always be able to get away with this sexism and disgusting assumptions about women, think again. Eventually whoever you are with will leave you. Nobody deserves to be treated like a servant.
@passionalist, of course women are people. But the problem with modern Western women is that they do NOT consider men to be people. On the contrary, they look at men as objects to be used for immediate gratification (usually psychological and monetary) and then abandoned when a better, newer, more exciting "product" (man) comes along.
@ApollosInsight They're called mail-order brides and they are the very thing many men's rights advocates despise; they use you for your money and a marriage visa. Please, do marry one of those women so the rest of us don't have the unfortunate experience of running into you in our dating pool.
Also, you should probably keep her in the house or in move to her country. You wouldn't want feminism getting brainwashed into her by interacting with people in the US.
@EMIRIzilla, you are one nasty, self-righteous person aren't you? Do you realize that modern Western women treat men like shit? They take a totally self-centered, passive, narcissistic attitude toward relationships: the burden is constantly on the man to perform and entertain the woman and otherwise provide her with psychological thrills. Making a single mistake in the performance results in the woman abandoning the man forever and looking for a better performer.
@EMIRIzilla, I didn't make generalizations about all women - just about Western women. Now, I'm sure there are good Western women out there. But most, from the thousands and thousands of Western women I've observed, really view men as objects to be used rather than people to be respected.
What is revealing is that you steadfastly refuse to acknowledge that Western women might not always treat men well. News flash: they aren't all sunshine and roses.
@KhagarBalugrak Where have I ever said I don't acknowledge that? Of course, there are various douchebags across all sexes, age groups, and ethnicities. Not everyone is a sweetie pie out to treat anyone but themselves well. Specifically calling out "thousands and thousands" of Western women, is however, LOLtastic. Also your experiences =/= everyone elses.
Done and done.
I'm sorry people have butthurt you, but people being PEOPLE is nothing new.
@EMIRIzilla Oh, I'll keep her in her country alright. Maybe shit is the new chocolate ice cream for American women, but everywhere else outside the western world shit=shit and always will be like that. I'm done w/ the dating scene here in America, too many decent, sincere and selfless men are labeled as "nice guys" get walked on all the time while the "alpha male" ones are being exhalted here by most women (who are all brainless).
@ApollosInsight True and then they end up whining when thier "bad boy" husband is'nt a great as she thought he was, yet they'll still turn thier noses up at the "nice" guys.
@ApollosInsight Aww, boohoo another Nice Guy (tm). Google it.
Kudos for saying "most" women while making your sexist commentary though, at least it's better than saying all. (As if getting an obedient, oppressed woman discouraged/prevented from getting an education from another country will be brainy. You're going to be sorely disappointed, friend.)
@EMIRIzilla something tells me you have had many bad experiences in relationships before. all i'm saying is don't think you have to be a "bad boy" just to attract someone. in the process, don't try to be a "nice guy" either. women love men who be themselves.
@4dhu78889 Actually, I've had very positive relationships. They ended for various incompatible things, but I always look back at them fondly except the Nice Guy (tm) that I dated. Nice Guy (tm)s are NOT nice, genuine people. Please read further on to understand the subject instead of assuming things about my relationships; Read the first two google links and the lj post by divalion (it is on the second google page). They are the best at explaining, IMO.
@EMIRIzilla Yeah, keep calling any non-western woman "suppressed" and "doormats" and see how fast they'll do some MMA on you.
Just in case you don't know, Boston MA is #1 in US education, but its in 14th place in the world (meaning that there are tons of women who are smarter than the average American woman)
@ApollosInsight Where have I ever used the word doormat? Don't put words into my mouth.
I never meant to imply the US has the best education, though as I became curious about this I couldn't find studies that didn't have US colleges at the top; source please. Was it my mistake to take from your comment that you were looking to take advantage of women from countries such as Russia/China/Thailand, as opposed to finding an educated partner?
@ApollosInsight Additionally, your point that the united states is '14th in the world' for education (I see now you're looking at the study that compares 15 year olds instead of grown-ass adults and accidentally applying that study to us uni), doesn't mean that women are better educated in those countries. You need to check the admission rates for women in these countries and their top schools before you can walk around spouting this. This is the kind of shit that really shows your privilege.
@EMIRIzilla Yeah, thanks for pointing out how stupid, deluded and uneducated you really are. It's sad that American women like you claim to be a "voice for the voiceless", yet never research or conduct any studies whatsoever. Most of you feminists buy into your own opinions, lies, contradicting stats, and prejudices faster than a blink of an eye w/o hesitation, then claim it to be the reality of how the world works. That's why a few ppl take you feminists seriously.
it's short sighted to claim that feminism is the major cause of increased female participation in the workforce-- you have to remember that we live in a post-industrial nation now. Thus that shift was economic, and feminism was a political reaction to this shift.
and you can't just pick quotes across history and claim these represent a unified feminist platform. Like any theory, feminism evolves over time and disagreements exist between members. Stop trying to vilify what you don't understand.
Woman have hurled hatred at men for 40 years (feminism) to the point that men have begun to return that hatred. Men who are the defenders, protectors, providers for women in this society and now many have a deep underlying hatred for women.
Woman have at the same time objectified themselves sexually in all manner of media taunt, tease men sexually displaying themselves as sexual objects even walking on the street.
What happens now if the thin veneer of civilization, peace, safety peels away?
feminism is great! wake-up! all persons deserve the right to self-determination. what's not good for women, is the thought that we need to have others tell us what to do and think. being a feminist to me means, not having to settle for a loveless marriage, to a man i don't really even like. not having kids i don't really want to have, in exchange for economic security. this ideally means a life and loves of my own choosing, and having kids i really want or not. not conforming to please others!
@uranusisnotfunny I couldn't have said it better myself.Anti-feminism wants to force all women to marry if they want to or not.If they want to live the life as gender roles,let them.I just wish they would leave us feminist alone and let us live our lives the way we see fit.
@feministsAreCorrupt surely some man would like to have anal sex with you, to satisfy his own needs! If you don't give it up the rectum you are very selfish and undermine our whole system! selfish bastard!!!
@uranusisnotfunny If men were able to sell anal access as well as women are able to sell vaginal access, men would. The simple reality is that female sexual access commands a higher price, and women know how to get men to pay for it, either by the hour (prostitution) or by subscription (dating, relationship or marriage).
@feministsAreCorrupt who said anything about selling sex? give it away for free is what i said! stop being so greedy and selfish! i mean really, it's not like you have to worry about getting pregnant!
@uranusisnotfunny Men are very willing to give away sex. It's no surprise to you that men are unable to find women that are willing to take it for nothing. Men need to pay women to take male sex. That's life.
@feministsAreCorrupt i said give it to the fellas! you fail to realize that women are penalized for being promiscuous. this must surely be a big reason why we are less apt to sleep around. also it is a bit of a turnoff that men are so indiscriminate about their sexual encounters. sooooo if you want sex from the ladies, recognize that true equality in our world would dramatically change our sexual relationships. p.s. i don't knowingly sleep with sexist men EVER!!
@uranusisnotfunny Men want to have sex with other men about as much as women want to have sex with a dog.
Promiscuous women are less desirable as mothers because men require paternal certainty. Perhaps mandatory DNA paternity testing as a standard point in the birth certification process would change that as much as the Pill and cheap/safe/easy abortion have given modern women a monopoly over reproduction.
@feministsAreCorrupt perhaps we should stop with the arguing. Love and meaningful relating with a happy woman, will guarantee paternity. Oppression and inequality will always create bullshit relationships. i am idealistic enough to believe women and men can relate and find common ground. Both must be willing to compromise and make small sacrifices. if you are insistant about domination, you will likely only find inferior broken women. do you secretly prefer a woman who helps and supports you?
@uranusisnotfunny by "domination" you mean BY WOMEN? Any casual observer of marriage in the US knows the majority of marriages are dominated by wives! Women claim to want a strong' man but the instant a man makes a decision a woman disapproves of she begins to manipulate. Controlling a man with displays of false emotional first then through withholding/ denying sex only then exchanging for his relinquished power. Reducing the marriage to a form of prostitution.
@embracingreality i must be abnormal? i like sex way too much to ever use it to manipulate someone. there are other ways to fight and settle differences or just part company. in fact i think my failure to USE sex is very disconcerting to men. too hard to believe that a woman can just be sexy and really want it as much or more than you do. oh that's right, they must be whores! you can't ever win with men that's the problem. they always want to find fault with you. i agree some women are awful.
@uranusisnotfunny I'm not sure what your point is here but in MARRIAGE wives frequently withhold sex and use it as a weapon of manipulation. A wife for example may only have sex if her husband hands over 100% of the decision making power. A husband can't "part company" as you say with a manipulative wife, if he attempts to divorce her he'll be destroyed in our biased court system. Ok your "abnormal" on the subject of female manipulation its the norm and can even be seen nightly on primetime tv.
@embracingreality find a woman with a high sex drive and her own money and interests. i doubt she'll be so focused on COMPLETE CONTROL. it is hard for a control freak to hide their tendencies for too long, perhaps a longer engagement would allow all of that to come out. prenuptial agreements would put an end to all of those worries of being ruined financially. YES, i would be totally willing and only too happy to have one, should i choose to marry!
@embracingreality i'm in the single category, but it is by choice! the single guys my age, that i know are really freaked out about being unmarried and childless. so, it would be pretty easy to prey on their vulnerability at this time, if i felt the need to pair up. i just haven't experienced any biological urges or anything. that just doesn't seem to be the case with the men though. you know people can and do lie and distort truth with statistics.
@uranusisnotfunny your single status or personal experience does not change overall realities or my point. Efforts to "distort truth with statistics" would be ineffective on divorce numbers or numbers of women who initiated divorce, these are a matter of documentation and public record... Who is avoiding marriage in the West?
Why don't you google and READ ;
"why young WOMEN are avoiding marriage"
See if you find anything? You'll find out who is avoiding it and exactly why. Educate yourself...
@embracingreality did google and read. this was all stuff i'm aware of and can relate to. maybe all of this is positive and points to changes in the way we relate. sometimes things get really bad before they get better :) unhappy loveless marriage is such an awful way to spend your life male or female. if you only are looking for domineering women who dole out affection with tweezers, well you can be sure you'll find it! why not look for some examples of women who are more to your liking.
@uranusisnotfunny What most women don't realize is that feminism was on a mission from the beginning to destroy marriage, therefore family and society. No not every feminists intentions but many of it's leaders and they've done an excellent job... please search youtube; "radical feminists statements" watch the first clip.
Yes, men are ultimately to blame if being dominated by women, they don't seek them but rather tolerate it foolishly. A man's ultimate weapon in dating is to simply walk away.
@embracingreality the institution of marriage parallels the institution of slavery. it is doubtful that anyone would openly say slavery is good and should be reinstated. marriage for many women over time has been slavery. being married off to some man, having no say in the matter, being raped by him, having many children whether you can support them and care for them or not. the past has bearing on the present. women have had little or no legal rights. why glamorize and preach matrimony??
@uranusisnotfunny What your suggesting here as marriage in the form of "slavery" didn't happen in any significant numbers in the history of the country! Prior to the 70's most women stayed home with the children (they wanted), after age 5 kids were gone all day leaving a woman in a home full of modern conveniences watching tv, drinking coffee, gabbing on the phone. Men worked hard for 50 years to pay for everything in exchange for very little in return and infrequent sex. Who was the slave?
@embracingreality are you serious? you only need to study history, to see how inaccurate what your saying is. you must never have cared for children or a home, if you think it entails laying around on your pussy all day! where are you getting this nonsense? sexual, verbal, and physical abuse are not worth material conveniences! women i know have told me i am smart to stay single and childfree. fact is it's just too much work taking care of a man. please EMBRACE REALITY!
@uranusisnotfunny Hell yes I'm serious! I personally have spent many hours with male friends, because of economic circumstances stayed home to tend young children and a house. They assured me and I myself saw with my own eyes that being a stay at home parent is virtually a paradise to having a real good paying job in the real world which is a miserable daily grind (I'm sure you've never had one). The notion that "abuse" of wives was somehow standard equipment is just plain stupid.
@embracingreality i've had lots of jobs in the REAL WORLD! i pay my own bills. i have cared for other peoples kids and done domestic chores. i'd rather work outside the home anytime, and come home to peace and quiet, not some moody crying husband. seeing how people had the notion that the husband is the boss and can do whatever to his wife/kids, there is no real way of knowing how much abuse has been ignored. it's a more recent development that police actually take domestic violence seriously
@uranusisnotfunny Right, like the physical abuse of men by violent wives, men who don't have the good sense to defend themselves as they've been taught that women are weaker and deserving of special treatment no matter how appalling a woman's behavior is. All police departments also keep lists of growing numbers of female pedophiles..
@embracingreality abuse can take many forms, even undermining a person constantly to wear down their self-esteem. it's just dangerous for any person to have too much control over another. you know men have the option to visit hookers, and not deal with these awful women. but controling them and how they live is really not an option. if all the men were like you there'd be NO chance of me reproducing. luckily some men like strong, willful, outspoken, independent, intelligent , bad women! yeah!!
@uranusisnotfunny Yes abuse! Like the endless manipulation hashed out by women on their husbands because women feel entitled to what they want without having to earn it.
Huh' you can shame me with your manipulation, If someone like YOU approved of me I would be ashamed of myself..
An abusive man or (woman) could easily describe themselves as "strong, willful, outspoken, independent and even intelligent" I have no doubt you believe those things to be true of yourself, yet the proof remains...
Respond to this video... Who's generalizing? Research, statistics and a casual look around shows that women are desperate for commitment and marriage, NOT MEN! Feminism NEVER promoted equality, EVER!!! For example women demanded the right to vote when they turned 18, like men. However men ONLY are required to register for the military draft at the age of 18... So women want the right to a privilege but never even considered demanding the sacrifices, did they?
@embracingreality i am a woman and not desperate for marriage or commitment. most women probably don't want to waste a tremendous amount of time on someone who isn't serious about anything. did it ever occur to you that men are spewing out these so called statistics and they might be distorted. are women people or are they numbers on a piece of paper? i am totally opposed to the draft! and about 1/2 of americans don't vote! a woman's whole life is about sacrifice, till she learns to say no!
@uranusisnotfunny As I've pointed out a man who was "serious" as you say, likely won't risk marriage and children with a woman if he's smart because feminism has made it too risky. Dummy, WOMEN give much of the research and statistics from their own damn research about marriage failing as a result of feminism.
The ONLY reason you have any freedom at all is because men (many drafted) payed for it with their blood necessarily.
Convenient for you being "apposed" there on your pedestal now...
@embracingreality according to divorce.com feminism was not one of the top 10 reasons marriages fail. i suggest you google it so you may know the real reasons. you sound like a typical american male, fascist as hell! you should question your information sources. we aren't even dating and ALREADY you are starting the abusive shit! you could always marry some poor girl from another country like russia, they have to put up with your crap for 5 years to get the citizenship.
@uranusisnotfunny Even if the owners of Divorce.com genuinely believed feminism was reason for divorce why would they risk an unpopular opinion when their whole purpose is to make money and likely find clients for lawyers who make millions from it? Furthermore my point has been that marriage is declining as a result of feminism (men declining to marry!) Women profit from divorce.
Dammit Sweetie, a man isn't a "fascist" just because he's right and Russia is NOT a poor country!
@embracingreality there are lots of other not for profit websites that say the same things. these days people would say such things, just for attention! dammit sweetie you just love to be quarrelsome! a facist is one who thinks their ideas are the only correct ones, without even considering other points! out of curiosity how many
@uranusisnotfunny Are you 12 years old? There are lots of websites for every contradictory point of view! By your definition your a fascist.. however you spelled "facist" so you may have made up the word out of thin air as well as the absurd definition. Feminist ideology is widely know and preached' it doesn't take a 40 year old book to know what it's about as you should know if you watched "radical feminist statements" on youtube many by well know feminist authors spewing hate.
@embracingreality thanks for reminding me of why it is that women seldom bother to attempt real communication with men. total waste of energy! much easier to smile and giggle and let some asshole think he's superior, when it is clearly not true. you are the epitome of why women need feminist thought now more than ever. i'll save my discussions for women who know how to have an exchange. men just want to fight about anything, which really sucks! i'm done here.
@uranusisnotfunny You mean save your discussions for SOME women who believe "feminism" (whatever it means to them) is always right no matter how irrational or contradictory to logical reality? Lots of women now appose much of "feminism" and there are ton's of websites and books authored by them! Your right though, you should just ignore everything those women and many men say and back up with facts and instead just believe whatever you make up in your head.
@embracingreality we can generalize about women and men all day. people are individuals who make choices. obviously marriage does not work well for most people. this is what's good about feminism, it promotes equality!! when there is economic equality, women do not need to enter relationships for economic reasons. they are free to sleep with whoever, (maybe you)? they can support their children without depending on a man. so you don't have to marry them to get sex. no need to barter services.
@embracingreality liberation for women also means liberation for men! i'm not sure what exactly your point is? you complain about women and marriage, and then complain that feminism is responsible for the break down of the family and destruction of marriages? in my mind feminism is simply the belief that women are human beings TOO! and deserve all of the same options and rights men have. people have made this an ugly word? sadly young women and girls do not identify themselves as feminist :(
@uranusisnotfunny We weren't talking about liberation dear, women were liberated and had the right to vote in 1920. Feminism (1960's to present) liberated women from WHAT? N O T H I N G... I already told you my point, feminism HARMED women and millions of modern women say so themselves but obviously not on mtv or whatever brilliant source of information for which you are so obviously a puppet. Consider hardcore pornography, are women depicted as "human TOO" there? Feminism made it possible.
@embracingreality the solution here is clear, just find yourself one of those hard working fellas to support you, and be done with women for good! i read a lot and haven't watched bullshit tv programs in years, a little JEOPARDY sometimes. porn is part of a backlash against women, as men like you, are angry as hell about women wanting to choose how to live their lives. supply and demand! funny how men are so in need of viagra since all the porn is out.
@uranusisnotfunny Why, I don't need someone to support me. Honestly at this point I don't really need sex, want it a little but relationships are are so taxing on men they're hardly worth the tiny rewards after 40.. I noticed you didn't tell me just to buy "it"..
Um if porn is a "backlash against women" why do women participate in it???
You women really are your own worst enemies aren't you?
@uranusisnotfunny Hmm.. have you considered finding a nice metrosexual guy to push around? A little guy that wouldn't give you any trouble at all. You know the kind, looks a bit like a woman but acts more like a girl. He'll let you make all the decisions and do whatever he's told. A feminized man that can hardly even make eye contact with you. I bet he'll tell you he's a feminists! Hell he'll tell you anything you want him too! Does he sound sexy?
@uranusisnotfunny, I would love nothing more than a relationship free of domination, and full of self-sacrifice. But most Western women don't want that. Perhaps you want that, but that puts you in a small minority among Western women. Ask yourself - what's more important to you? That a man constantly be a good performer and tell good jokes, be mysterious and unpredictable and exciting, or be a reliable, loving, stable partner? Most Western women strongly want the former and not the latter.
@KhagarBalugrak i value loyalty above all. how many men are truly loyal? i don't think a man needs to be constantly exciting and entertaining, however who wants to be around a dull and boring person? there must be a balance. too, people want different things at different stages of life. sometimes only after disappointment can we truly appreciate someone wonderful, and treat them well.
@uranusisnotfunny, as far as "wanting different things at different stages of life", Western women typically want the exciting, mysterious, unpredictable, emotionally distant, rebellious, shallow guy until their mid-forties, at which point they typically turn to nice guys only because they realize their financial situation sucks. Indeed, most Western women do not ever grow out of an adolescent mindset until they become senior citizens and realize they are very, very old.
@KhagarBalugrak I would say that men are decietful and pretend to be all of these great things, until women are very attatched to them, at that point they start all of their abuse. a better question would be why are men in western culture so psychotic and abusive? how do we define nice? there are lots of men who are good providers, but abusive and controlling. people are individuals. some generalizations may be true. i am younger than 40's and desire a kind, intelligent, interesting man.
@KhagarBalugrak i haven't found him yet! things with people are seldom what they appear to be. there are lots of good women who desire a good man. sometimes men tend to think too much of themselves, and are holding out for this totally gorgeous perfect woman who is probably never gonna show! i know many older men who never married and/or had kids, who are like this. then they wake up to find they are older and alone, surrounded by their many buddies and mom, but no family! 2 sides 2 every story
@uranusisnotfunny, also, at no point in life is preferring men of bad character to men of good character acceptable. Speaking of this in terms of "stages of life" is highly delusive, and makes a serious problem in Western culture appear harmless. If Western men preferred women of bad character for most of their lives (and many do), you surely wouldn't speak of this problem as just the normal development over "the stages of life".
@KhagarBalugrak maturity can be connected with age. many people need experience to learn things. economics does play a big part. women who are more educated and/or good earners have more options, and are not so dependant on a man for security. i would much rather work a lot than marry a person just for financial security. i would rather be poor than have that kind of marriage. i think it's more complicated than women liking "bad boys". just like men, women desire good sex.
@KhagarBalugrak the "bad boys" tend to be much better at sex. that is probably a big part of the attraction. women also desire emotional intimacy, which many men are unable or unwilling to give. just being dependable and having money is not enough! i would guess most people would like a total package. i know i do. i am much happier doing my own thing, than being tied up with someone who worries me to death and obsesses over my activities and thoughts. for me settling is not an option!
Why do feminist oppse over the counter DNA test in a country where over 30% of women who accuse men of being the father are not so they cannot find out? Why do feminist oppose any joint custody for fathers giving women 97% of the time 100% custody of children for higher child support payments. They legally separate the father from the child he must then go back into court spend thousands on a lawyer then is legally termed a visitor Feminist have made divorce attractive for women look at society
Why so people can purposely fuck up otc DNA tests? lol. Get a DNA test court ordered at the child support hearing.
I don't know why you're generalizing so much-- feminist this, feminists that. So ignorant. I'm sorry the system screwed you, but that's really not the fault of feminists.
Feminists have made not getting married at all attractive. Independence is a wonderful thing. I'm so glad I'm a modern woman, because I don't think I could put up with someone elses' shit all the time. Hahaha
The 1st part of your comment shows that you are not thinking. The home dna test is cheap & much more simple then going through a court hearing for the purpose of finding out the truth about paternity thats what I was saying & the femnist groups oppose it. That point makes sense yours does not. Oh yea even if the test comes back negative you can still be forced to pay "in the best interest of the child" if you have done anything to provide tag your it....
i agree it is not good for women. i am a woman forced to get a degree and go out into the work force. i would give anything to come home and do what i loved and was really good at. fem is a lie..it is a agenda . and we are harmed by it. it is not serving. i have been married 26 yrs and my husband would gladly let me come home..but i can't.
sweetkittytwine 3 weeks ago
I lived my life thinking that feminism was nothing more than people seeking equal rights for women. I have talked with many like minded people, and we really don't focus on the negatives of men or marriage, we simply discuss what we can do to better ourselves and society. But I live out in the boones, maybe feminism is more extreme in the cities, I don't know. I am sorry, I just don't follow you.
tangerinefarmer 1 month ago
feminism is jewish from bigging
napajedlacek 3 months ago
@napajedlacek You mean Feminism like that of Simone de Beauvoir, a daughter of a devout Catholic? While many influential Feminists are of Jewish descent, many are not. And there is little in Orthodox Judaism which justifies Feminism. Synagogues are for men...
leostomicek 2 months ago in playlist Feminism
@leostomicek - Israel is not jewish ,but Zionist.
these so called jewish women are not orthodox at all !!
napajedlacek 2 months ago
Was anyone else dancing in their chairs as they were watching this video?
DoItYouWont100 4 months ago
@ThatsSoMe7 Rated up. Bet I'm the only one who does. Airstrike comment ftw.
gfkfkffkkgkfbfgbfg 4 months ago
Feminism past the 20s is utter bullshit, imo.
kipkayify 4 months ago 11
@kipkayify Feminism has won everything it was fighting for. I mean everything that had any meaning. I do not say that it was always good for the society (I am of the opposite view in fact), but it had a meaning, a sense, and a direction. Now it's just slut walks, telling men not to rape. No meaning, no sense, and no direction.
leostomicek 2 months ago in playlist Feminism
@leostomicek Indeed. In the western world, the early stages of Feminism were harmless. They told women that they could vote, they were valuable and just as good as men, and should be more than little dolls. That is a great thing. However, nowadays I see nothing of meaning. The only "feminism" I support is helping women in third world countries, who are beaten and raped and who knows what else. However, I label myself as a humanist. We can't advance if we focus on only one gender.
kipkayify 2 months ago
@kipkayify Actually the first organised women's movements were about controlling men, in sixteenth century England they rallied against coffee houses because men spent too much time in them talking about politics and such. They rallied against prostitution, and for the age of consent. Now in America you cannot bang a 16 year old when you are 25, although the 16 year old is perfectly ready and often willing to have sex. They also rallied against alcohol leading to prohibition.
leostomicek 2 months ago
@leostomicek a 16 yr old child is too young to be having sex especially with a man of 25 yrs old. the kid is still in school and the man has life experiences and should be with a woman not a child. i think u are a little sick and would like laws " period" to be in facor of letting you run wild and rape kids. sick bastard.
sweetkittytwine 3 weeks ago
@sweetkittytwine I do not want any laws, where I am, laws allow me to screw a 16 year old. Deal with it, 16 year olds can also give consent.
leostomicek 3 weeks ago
@kipkayify The right to vote led to women vote in fascist dictatorships in Europe.
leostomicek 2 months ago
@leostomicek And on a side note, I don't often see western feminists supporting helping their sisters in third world countries. As you said, I see slut walks, telling women to behave like men, to never get pregnant, and blaming men for everything. I meet very few feminists who are truly fair and for equality.
kipkayify 2 months ago
@kipkayify I actually know of Feminists supporting women in the third world. I think there is a United Nations organisation which does just that. I am of the opinion that women in the third world should help themselves, which they often do. We Westerners have no business sticking our hands in other people's affairs. And in terms of action we can do very little anyway in my opinion.
leostomicek 2 months ago
Feminism is not for women, it is for women who are not feminine, Homosexuals and all of those who have a complicated sexuality and complicated gender.
dulanthad 6 months ago
Wow, just....wow. You make me want to be a Lesbian Separatist.
ThatsSoMe7 6 months ago
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MensRightsVideos 7 months ago
It's ironic that in their quest for equality women have mimicked the very men they claimed to be against. Oppose something by being just as nasty. Works in war, works in politics, does not work in civil rights.
MunkyDrag0n 7 months ago 17
Regards from Switzerland - we also fight against feminism. We organize allready the second international Antifeminsm congress......
mpschweiz 8 months ago 3
I like it how a man decides what's good for a woman and what's not.
Men were forced into the military due to the draft in past years but I'm always shocked how men laying down their lives (by choice when the draft has not been used for decades) or men building buildings or things that they actually can choose to do, are thrown about in feminist videos which is glaringly ad hominem.
rainbowbrainhead 9 months ago
NOBODY HERE EVEN KNOWS WHAT FEMINISM IS.
i see that males use the word feminism to describe every time they get rejected. just shut your mouths and get a job, boys. those great days when women couldn't vote or get a divorce are over. deal with it.
karlsmith00 9 months ago
I would like to not be a feminist but men expect me to pay for half the meal and half the bills and I need to pay for a car to get to work.. If I could find a respectful man who paid for everything then I wouldn't be a feminist.
SuzLa1 11 months ago
@SuzLa1
You're right. Men are also to blame in all that moral decay. If they expect you to do that, they are not real men any more. And that's precisely the aim of feminism :destroying manhood .
framboise595 11 months ago
@SuzLa1 Unfortunately, the laws in the west are terribly stilted against men, and the very poor track record of women of late makes it difficult for men to trust them once they figure this out. Why don't you inform your date of this? Tell him that you want to have a normal relationship. Men and women lived for thousands of years without dumb political movements, so clearly it can be done. Women have the power to deny the temptation of feminism.
EvilsOfFeminism 10 months ago
@EvilsOfFeminism I don't understand what you mean, as if a woman is married to an abusive man and leaves him for her mental good, how is she expected to live if she can't have equal rights with employment etc? Or do you think women should be abused and stay with the man?
SuzLa1 10 months ago
@SuzLa1 Do you think that women are the abused? Do you think that men are the abusers? If those are the terms you think in, you would never understand a single rational thought. And yes, I did not my wife when she was violent. I risked much. I lost much. I will never change. I will never hear the selfish sirens' calls--for they are to the rocks. I already know what selfish women would do--they would make up a story and blame the man. Why not? They get a free house and such for SELFISHNESS.
EvilsOfFeminism 8 months ago 2
@EvilsOfFeminism So because your wife was nasty, you take it out on all other women? What a twisted nasty person. Men like you would rather see most women be their slaves and ruining their bodies having children and having sex for you, and then leave them on the streets with nothing.
SuzLa1 8 months ago
@SuzLa1 Yup, that's exactly right. There was no consideration for the rights of women, EVER, which is how humanity became the dominant species on Earth. Do you seriously listen to yourself? Her nastiness is INSTITUTIONALIZED, you classic case of pro-feminist. You can literally hear about "men" being left on the streets with nothing and turn that into "women." You also redefine slavery for "men" as somehow "women." One seriously cannot buy this kind of stupid.
EvilsOfFeminism 8 months ago
@EvilsOfFeminism THE VERY POOR TRACK RECORD OF WOMEN OF LATE?????????????????
bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i know, remember those great thousands of years when women couldn't vote or were constantly abused by husbands? DAMN THOSE DUMB POLITICAL MOVEMENTS.
you are so fucking stupid it should be a crime. i can just imagine what an ugly fucking virgin you are. you know nothing. congress is 84% male. laws are stitled against ugly fucking losers like you.
GET A JOB BITCH.
karlsmith00 9 months ago
@karlsmith00 Do you have proof that women were constantly abused by husbands for thousands of years? Female on male violence is more common in the States and the UK. And you have nothing but personal attacks and shaming language? That, what, I must be horrible because you don't want me to say what I'm saying? Fuck you. Spineless provocatuers such as you would never step on the dueling field in broad daylight. But I would. Remember that, bitch.
EvilsOfFeminism 8 months ago 2
@EvilsOfFeminism look at this idiot. you actually think you can lie, oink through your teeth, and get away with it.
yeah? besides the fact that males are the vast majority of ALL violent criminals and commit 96% of murders? and that men are 5 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier on average than women? and that men aren't going to hospitals or calling police, because there would be a record? and in islam (followed by 20% of the world) it's completely LEGAL?
are you insane? or just a boy?
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@EvilsOfFeminism now, all of a sudden WOMEN HAVE JUST BECOME MORE VIOLENT THAN MEN IN THE PAST WHAT, 10 YEARS?
i guess that's why women are on a mass rape rampage in the congo. why old women marry and abuse young boys in places like yemen and india. that's why egyptian females are gang raping male journalists. instead of the other way around.
you're a psychotic male who needs meds and a job. you know nothing. MEN SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ONLINE WITHOUT A TEST. you should have been aborted.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@EvilsOfFeminism and yes, just in case you were wondering, i do have proof. it's called human history.
instructions on how men can beat their wives have been on record since the code of hammurabi. but it's not my job to teach insane bitches like you who need sense knocked into them.
i don't care how fat and ugly you are or that you're a 50 year old virgin. you don't belong online. you should be out on a highway picking up trash. get help before you snap and shoot a congresswoman.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
How kind of those selfless and great men to lay down their lives in the wars just to protect the women folk!
I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with the forced conscription or the fact that women were not allowed to serve in the military because they were considered weaker beings...
but what do I know, I'm just a silly woman.
MESSYEAHH 1 year ago 2
@MESSYEAHH yeah cause female soldier batalions would do so well when they get their period during war time, also guns and tanks in those theys were heavy and hard to operate which would make it simply impossible for them do even do the work, they would all be killed. if the us sent women to fight the nazi's, we would be speaking german in europe now
MGsven 1 year ago
woman is evil
musulmanskaja0svinja 1 year ago
men r just lazy, "wanting women in the kitchen" how equally sharring
rozz669 1 year ago
@rozz669 its funny, cause you were actually too lazy to turn on a spelling checker
MGsven 1 year ago
Feminism has indeed produced negative effects in women: selfishness, greed, restlessness, discontent, arrogance, manipulativeness, resentment, paranoia, shallowness, and narcissism, just to name a few.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak could you explain what exactly in your opinion the ideal woman would be like? ps that description seems to fit american men perfectly.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny, the ideal woman doesn't exist. One of the things we need to do, both men and women, is accept that we will never find the "ideal" partner or "the one" or "the perfect soulmate". There is no such thing, and to make that type of demand upon anyone is nothing short of tyrannical.
And yes, American men commonly use women for sex and manipulate them. But American women don't even acknowledge the humanity of men, and see them as objects...which is even worse.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak how can you be sure? ideals are like a map that help you reach your destination. it is unrealistic to expect total perfection and fulfillment from another. we do however have greater compatability with one person than another. compatability coupled with similar values and goals can make the difference between growing together and drifting apart. i tell you i am a woman and respect and value men and try to be kind to them, even when they are undeserving. change begins with us!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak True.
kev95 1 year ago
where is part 2
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA there is no part 2 it was a lie just like the lie about feminism being bad for women!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny
i dont know about the feminism being bad for woman part being a lie
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
Um in what families has feminism been incorporated? All I hear is that men are slacking off and have the same expectations of women + they have to work, and be extremely beautiful, more so than before.
Despite the fact that women HAVE more education, guess who still gets paid less and has less opportunities of being hired?
"Laid down their lives for women's safety" damsel in distress again?! Let's grow up.
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist
Poor wimyns. They want it all and find out how hard it is to have a family and a job. How easy do you think it was in the 1800's when women had 8 kids because there was no birth control. Men didn't prevent women from working. Women didn't want to work. How could they will all those kids and everything had to be done by hand! Today women have vacuums, fast food, appliances, and running water and only 2.3 kids and they still can't compete in the workplace.
gamenode 1 year ago
@passionalist
What's more is women demand complete control over the family. I've never seen a woman who would marry a man who wanted to be the primary child care provider. You spit on men who don't work so we work. And what bothers you is we do it better than you. It ain't hard to do though since women choose family over work and force men to choose work over family. The sexism is all yours. We are the victims of women. We are the property of women. Always have been.
gamenode 1 year ago
@gamenode
I don't spit on anyone. I don't speak for all women, and you don't speak for all men. What man wants to be the "primary child care provider"? I don't understand...if you mean that supposedly no woman wants to marry a man who will take on responsibily, obviously you don't know me. I am with someone who is willing to. "And what bothers you is we do it better than you. " Do what better? Most men I've seen do not understand how to take care of kids.
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist
If I'm not describing you then I'm not talking about you am I? So your protests that "It's not me" are moot.
And you spit on men who make more money and are more successful.
When men succeed it's because of sexism.
When women succeed it's because they are better than men.
When men fail it's because they are losers.
When women fail it's because they are victims of sexism.
See a pattern here?
gamenode 1 year ago
@gamenode
Who says those things? It's not feminists. You are trying really hard here to portray men as victims. Feminism is mroe complicated than "equal rights" and it's nothing about "special rights". The inability for you to perceive things off a polarity between one extreme and another, is why you cannot understand anything outside your own view points. And rape is violent. Many women continue to be beat by their husbands as well. Your definition obviously centres only on male violence.
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist
It's not hard at all to portray men as victims. It is hard to convince ideologues like yourself that women are not the only victims.
You've obviously not read Linda Kelly's excellent piece called "Disabusing the Definition of Domestic Abuse:"
Read it and come and tell me men do all the violence.
Here's a cliffs note: Women commit twice as much child abuse. Mothers murder more children than all the pedophiles and child rapists combined. Women commit just as much DV as men.
gamenode 1 year ago
Respond to this video...
"I am with someone who is willing to. "
Being with a man who wants to isn't the same as seeking out a man who wants to. I've never seen an Online dating profile where a woman said she wanted to support a man who stayed home and took care of baby. NEVER. Why? Because women want what women have always wanted. To stay home themselves and enjoy the income that their husband provides while they enjoy the family. And of course call it all "equal".
gamenode 1 year ago
"We are the victims of women. We are the property of women. Always have been. "
...seriously what kind of history have you been learning? For the longest time women were the official property of men. How are men the victims when patriarchy continues to this day. When women still cannot do most things that men can. When you walk home at night, do you have your keys ready? Do you have 911 dialed in your phone just in case? You don't understand why someone would do that because you're not a woman.
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist
Actually yes. Every man must be prepared for violence and he must accept the consequences if he is not. Should he be beaten by another man society largely turns a blind eye unless the capture and prosecution of his attacker is relatively easy.
For the record it is MEN who suffer the lions share of violence. Not women. And yet it is women who receive the lions share of gov't funding for their person protection.
gamenode 1 year ago
@passionalist
By refusing to acknowledge that men are more often victims of violence you ARE spitting on men. By demanding more sympathy for whatever violence you do experience and demanding more protection you ARE spitting on men.
If women demand more because of your "special" needs then you are not seeking equal rights but special rights.
And don't even get me started on false accusations of rape which outnumber actual rape. Talk about spitting on men.
gamenode 1 year ago
@passionalist Be careful, you will get replies from so many 9-popped-collars douchebags when posting on these videos. I've been getting replies for months on old-ass posts and very few of the people who reply actually read what you've written or at least they don't consider it. They just want to tell you how it is in their minds. It's very difficult to find a men's rights group that is about equality, instead of "we hate women" (I have only found one).
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla Thanks, I've noticed. I just hope that these posts represent a small minority of "men". I would like to believe that more men in our society respect women than hate them and want them back in the kitchen. It also seems to me that the reason why they hate women is because they feel threatened that they're not as superior as they would like to believe. Maybe these people will never change, but at least I try. I know there are real men out there who respect independent women.
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist Absolutely there are still real, respectful non-hateful men out there. It's like the rest of the world, the content majority is never the most noticed. Still, the majority does tend to make off-handed sexist jokes or use sexist language. It's hurtful to hear daily, but it's not as unproductive and as awful as talking to the ridiculous extremists you find on here. I've found my time is much better spent telling my friends & family that it's not okay to use "girl" as an insult.
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
or spending my time telling my guy friends why it's not okay to shout things out windows at women and telling them of my sexual harassment experiences, so they don't do that shit.
They actually have an open mind and are just doing things out of ignorance of the effects, as opposed to doing it purposefully out of spite/jealousy/hatred.
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla Haha very true. What I learned in my Violence Against Women class however is that ignorance is often not the reason why men engage in Sexual Harassment. For example, if you ask a guy how he feels if he were being "checked out" in the same way, he feels uncomfortable. That must mean that to some degree, he understands the woman's feelings. Often, they know it's not right but use ignorance as a way to justify themselves. We also talked about how it's usually when guys gather in groups
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist What else did you learn in man-hating bigot camp? Let's hear it, you fascist.
EvilsOfFeminism 1 year ago
@passionalist lol, did u even ask a guy, guys love to be checked out....
i do anyway
MGsven 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla It's when they are in groups that they act that way. Men may not degrade women, at least not to the same extent, when they are by themselves, but when in a group it becomes supposedly a game to them. I don't necessarily feel that sorry for men, but I do realize that it must suck to be a man and have to engage in these actions, especially if you don't believe in them, as a way to constantly reassert that you are a "man".
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist
well be happy to 'grow up' and turn a blind eye to that fact, when women are the ones that are forced to sign up for selective service (draft) while men dont. until then SHUT THE FUCK UP. i guarantee you if it really was the other way around, youd be up in arms
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
To any western male who's still looking for love:
Go overseas. Feminism in the west is known throughout the world and many non-western women disdain (from my traveling experience) it. Countries such as Russia have an abundant population of women (1 man to 6 women) and are seeking us western men. (in fact, us western men are considered to be great prizes overseas)
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight NICE!!!
Nautilus987 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight
It doesn't matter where you find a woman. If you bring her back to the states it doesn't take long for her to figure out she owns you. And even if she's an angel, once the divorce is filed the courts will take over and strip you of your property and children regardless of how much you hates or doesn't hate you.
Marriage is a sham. Women, so long as they promote feminism either through activity or silence, are haters of men.
gamenode 1 year ago
@gamenode Yeah well, the idea is that you hook up w/ her and LEAVE HER in her own country instead of bringing her back here. That way, you can control how she is to you and don't have to worry about her being a snob.
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight
I am so over women. Reproduction/sex is just another way women own and control men. The moment you can get away from that is the moment you liberate yourself from the guilt and shame that women heap on men for not being able to get laid or for not being married, or for not doing whatever it is they want you to do because they are unwilling to do.
A real man doesn't allow others to define what a real man is. Especially not women.
gamenode 1 year ago
@gamenode which is why the men should start going for those cute little barbie doll toys and stuffed animals out there ;) especially the stuffed animals! they'll never hurt you and you can always trust them.
4dhu78889 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight
What do you think women are? Objects for your pleasure? Wake up...WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO! And if you think that you will always be able to get away with this sexism and disgusting assumptions about women, think again. Eventually whoever you are with will leave you. Nobody deserves to be treated like a servant.
passionalist 1 year ago
@passionalist, of course women are people. But the problem with modern Western women is that they do NOT consider men to be people. On the contrary, they look at men as objects to be used for immediate gratification (usually psychological and monetary) and then abandoned when a better, newer, more exciting "product" (man) comes along.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight They're called mail-order brides and they are the very thing many men's rights advocates despise; they use you for your money and a marriage visa. Please, do marry one of those women so the rest of us don't have the unfortunate experience of running into you in our dating pool.
Also, you should probably keep her in the house or in move to her country. You wouldn't want feminism getting brainwashed into her by interacting with people in the US.
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla, you are one nasty, self-righteous person aren't you? Do you realize that modern Western women treat men like shit? They take a totally self-centered, passive, narcissistic attitude toward relationships: the burden is constantly on the man to perform and entertain the woman and otherwise provide her with psychological thrills. Making a single mistake in the performance results in the woman abandoning the man forever and looking for a better performer.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak lmao, way to make sweeping generalizations about all women.
Keep on thinking that way, you're a real winner.
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla, I didn't make generalizations about all women - just about Western women. Now, I'm sure there are good Western women out there. But most, from the thousands and thousands of Western women I've observed, really view men as objects to be used rather than people to be respected.
What is revealing is that you steadfastly refuse to acknowledge that Western women might not always treat men well. News flash: they aren't all sunshine and roses.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak Where have I ever said I don't acknowledge that? Of course, there are various douchebags across all sexes, age groups, and ethnicities. Not everyone is a sweetie pie out to treat anyone but themselves well. Specifically calling out "thousands and thousands" of Western women, is however, LOLtastic. Also your experiences =/= everyone elses.
Done and done.
I'm sorry people have butthurt you, but people being PEOPLE is nothing new.
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla Oh, I'll keep her in her country alright. Maybe shit is the new chocolate ice cream for American women, but everywhere else outside the western world shit=shit and always will be like that. I'm done w/ the dating scene here in America, too many decent, sincere and selfless men are labeled as "nice guys" get walked on all the time while the "alpha male" ones are being exhalted here by most women (who are all brainless).
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight True and then they end up whining when thier "bad boy" husband is'nt a great as she thought he was, yet they'll still turn thier noses up at the "nice" guys.
kev95 1 year ago
@kev95 Yep, and notice how many feminists complain how men mistreat women, yet that's the only way for a woman to respect men nowadays.
Women degrade themselves. They're the ones who teach us men how to treat them by the way they respond to us.
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight Aww, boohoo another Nice Guy (tm). Google it.
Kudos for saying "most" women while making your sexist commentary though, at least it's better than saying all. (As if getting an obedient, oppressed woman discouraged/prevented from getting an education from another country will be brainy. You're going to be sorely disappointed, friend.)
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla something tells me you have had many bad experiences in relationships before. all i'm saying is don't think you have to be a "bad boy" just to attract someone. in the process, don't try to be a "nice guy" either. women love men who be themselves.
4dhu78889 1 year ago
@4dhu78889 Actually, I've had very positive relationships. They ended for various incompatible things, but I always look back at them fondly except the Nice Guy (tm) that I dated. Nice Guy (tm)s are NOT nice, genuine people. Please read further on to understand the subject instead of assuming things about my relationships; Read the first two google links and the lj post by divalion (it is on the second google page). They are the best at explaining, IMO.
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla Yeah, keep calling any non-western woman "suppressed" and "doormats" and see how fast they'll do some MMA on you.
Just in case you don't know, Boston MA is #1 in US education, but its in 14th place in the world (meaning that there are tons of women who are smarter than the average American woman)
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight Where have I ever used the word doormat? Don't put words into my mouth.
I never meant to imply the US has the best education, though as I became curious about this I couldn't find studies that didn't have US colleges at the top; source please. Was it my mistake to take from your comment that you were looking to take advantage of women from countries such as Russia/China/Thailand, as opposed to finding an educated partner?
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight Additionally, your point that the united states is '14th in the world' for education (I see now you're looking at the study that compares 15 year olds instead of grown-ass adults and accidentally applying that study to us uni), doesn't mean that women are better educated in those countries. You need to check the admission rates for women in these countries and their top schools before you can walk around spouting this. This is the kind of shit that really shows your privilege.
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
@EMIRIzilla Yeah, thanks for pointing out how stupid, deluded and uneducated you really are. It's sad that American women like you claim to be a "voice for the voiceless", yet never research or conduct any studies whatsoever. Most of you feminists buy into your own opinions, lies, contradicting stats, and prejudices faster than a blink of an eye w/o hesitation, then claim it to be the reality of how the world works. That's why a few ppl take you feminists seriously.
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight Feel free to cite your sources, until you can provide that you've got incorrect information according to the studies I have found.
I have never claimed to be a voice for the voiceless, again putting words into my mouth. That's a problem of yours, isn't it?
EMIRIzilla 1 year ago
The terrible truth:
watch?v=JRVqaxk3TJ4
amerrychristmas 1 year ago
it's short sighted to claim that feminism is the major cause of increased female participation in the workforce-- you have to remember that we live in a post-industrial nation now. Thus that shift was economic, and feminism was a political reaction to this shift.
and you can't just pick quotes across history and claim these represent a unified feminist platform. Like any theory, feminism evolves over time and disagreements exist between members. Stop trying to vilify what you don't understand.
gtrabbit 1 year ago
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Woman have hurled hatred at men for 40 years (feminism) to the point that men have begun to return that hatred. Men who are the defenders, protectors, providers for women in this society and now many have a deep underlying hatred for women.
Woman have at the same time objectified themselves sexually in all manner of media taunt, tease men sexually displaying themselves as sexual objects even walking on the street.
What happens now if the thin veneer of civilization, peace, safety peels away?
embracingreality 1 year ago
Where's the second part? This was interesting.
redgirlinbluedresses 1 year ago
If our society had polygamy I wonder what factor it would have had back after the big loss of life in the male population in ww2...?
Obasiliasfilosofos 1 year ago
Feminists tell lies. Marriage is a con to men. Let women fend for themselves. They deserve what they get.
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago 3
feminism is great! wake-up! all persons deserve the right to self-determination. what's not good for women, is the thought that we need to have others tell us what to do and think. being a feminist to me means, not having to settle for a loveless marriage, to a man i don't really even like. not having kids i don't really want to have, in exchange for economic security. this ideally means a life and loves of my own choosing, and having kids i really want or not. not conforming to please others!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny I couldn't have said it better myself.Anti-feminism wants to force all women to marry if they want to or not.If they want to live the life as gender roles,let them.I just wish they would leave us feminist alone and let us live our lives the way we see fit.
ashatbulaparanormal 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny "not conforming to please others!"
As suspected, Feminist followers are merely selfish women.
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@feministsAreCorrupt surely some man would like to have anal sex with you, to satisfy his own needs! If you don't give it up the rectum you are very selfish and undermine our whole system! selfish bastard!!!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny If men were able to sell anal access as well as women are able to sell vaginal access, men would. The simple reality is that female sexual access commands a higher price, and women know how to get men to pay for it, either by the hour (prostitution) or by subscription (dating, relationship or marriage).
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@feministsAreCorrupt who said anything about selling sex? give it away for free is what i said! stop being so greedy and selfish! i mean really, it's not like you have to worry about getting pregnant!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Men are very willing to give away sex. It's no surprise to you that men are unable to find women that are willing to take it for nothing. Men need to pay women to take male sex. That's life.
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@feministsAreCorrupt i said give it to the fellas! you fail to realize that women are penalized for being promiscuous. this must surely be a big reason why we are less apt to sleep around. also it is a bit of a turnoff that men are so indiscriminate about their sexual encounters. sooooo if you want sex from the ladies, recognize that true equality in our world would dramatically change our sexual relationships. p.s. i don't knowingly sleep with sexist men EVER!!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Men want to have sex with other men about as much as women want to have sex with a dog.
Promiscuous women are less desirable as mothers because men require paternal certainty. Perhaps mandatory DNA paternity testing as a standard point in the birth certification process would change that as much as the Pill and cheap/safe/easy abortion have given modern women a monopoly over reproduction.
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@feministsAreCorrupt perhaps we should stop with the arguing. Love and meaningful relating with a happy woman, will guarantee paternity. Oppression and inequality will always create bullshit relationships. i am idealistic enough to believe women and men can relate and find common ground. Both must be willing to compromise and make small sacrifices. if you are insistant about domination, you will likely only find inferior broken women. do you secretly prefer a woman who helps and supports you?
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago 4
@uranusisnotfunny Yes I do...
OutSpokenGamer 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny by "domination" you mean BY WOMEN? Any casual observer of marriage in the US knows the majority of marriages are dominated by wives! Women claim to want a strong' man but the instant a man makes a decision a woman disapproves of she begins to manipulate. Controlling a man with displays of false emotional first then through withholding/ denying sex only then exchanging for his relinquished power. Reducing the marriage to a form of prostitution.
It's why 51% of women are single.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality i must be abnormal? i like sex way too much to ever use it to manipulate someone. there are other ways to fight and settle differences or just part company. in fact i think my failure to USE sex is very disconcerting to men. too hard to believe that a woman can just be sexy and really want it as much or more than you do. oh that's right, they must be whores! you can't ever win with men that's the problem. they always want to find fault with you. i agree some women are awful.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny I'm not sure what your point is here but in MARRIAGE wives frequently withhold sex and use it as a weapon of manipulation. A wife for example may only have sex if her husband hands over 100% of the decision making power. A husband can't "part company" as you say with a manipulative wife, if he attempts to divorce her he'll be destroyed in our biased court system. Ok your "abnormal" on the subject of female manipulation its the norm and can even be seen nightly on primetime tv.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality find a woman with a high sex drive and her own money and interests. i doubt she'll be so focused on COMPLETE CONTROL. it is hard for a control freak to hide their tendencies for too long, perhaps a longer engagement would allow all of that to come out. prenuptial agreements would put an end to all of those worries of being ruined financially. YES, i would be totally willing and only too happy to have one, should i choose to marry!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@embracingreality i'm in the single category, but it is by choice! the single guys my age, that i know are really freaked out about being unmarried and childless. so, it would be pretty easy to prey on their vulnerability at this time, if i felt the need to pair up. i just haven't experienced any biological urges or anything. that just doesn't seem to be the case with the men though. you know people can and do lie and distort truth with statistics.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny your single status or personal experience does not change overall realities or my point. Efforts to "distort truth with statistics" would be ineffective on divorce numbers or numbers of women who initiated divorce, these are a matter of documentation and public record... Who is avoiding marriage in the West?
Why don't you google and READ ;
"why young WOMEN are avoiding marriage"
See if you find anything? You'll find out who is avoiding it and exactly why. Educate yourself...
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality did google and read. this was all stuff i'm aware of and can relate to. maybe all of this is positive and points to changes in the way we relate. sometimes things get really bad before they get better :) unhappy loveless marriage is such an awful way to spend your life male or female. if you only are looking for domineering women who dole out affection with tweezers, well you can be sure you'll find it! why not look for some examples of women who are more to your liking.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny What most women don't realize is that feminism was on a mission from the beginning to destroy marriage, therefore family and society. No not every feminists intentions but many of it's leaders and they've done an excellent job... please search youtube; "radical feminists statements" watch the first clip.
Yes, men are ultimately to blame if being dominated by women, they don't seek them but rather tolerate it foolishly. A man's ultimate weapon in dating is to simply walk away.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality the institution of marriage parallels the institution of slavery. it is doubtful that anyone would openly say slavery is good and should be reinstated. marriage for many women over time has been slavery. being married off to some man, having no say in the matter, being raped by him, having many children whether you can support them and care for them or not. the past has bearing on the present. women have had little or no legal rights. why glamorize and preach matrimony??
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny What your suggesting here as marriage in the form of "slavery" didn't happen in any significant numbers in the history of the country! Prior to the 70's most women stayed home with the children (they wanted), after age 5 kids were gone all day leaving a woman in a home full of modern conveniences watching tv, drinking coffee, gabbing on the phone. Men worked hard for 50 years to pay for everything in exchange for very little in return and infrequent sex. Who was the slave?
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality are you serious? you only need to study history, to see how inaccurate what your saying is. you must never have cared for children or a home, if you think it entails laying around on your pussy all day! where are you getting this nonsense? sexual, verbal, and physical abuse are not worth material conveniences! women i know have told me i am smart to stay single and childfree. fact is it's just too much work taking care of a man. please EMBRACE REALITY!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Hell yes I'm serious! I personally have spent many hours with male friends, because of economic circumstances stayed home to tend young children and a house. They assured me and I myself saw with my own eyes that being a stay at home parent is virtually a paradise to having a real good paying job in the real world which is a miserable daily grind (I'm sure you've never had one). The notion that "abuse" of wives was somehow standard equipment is just plain stupid.
DONT BREED!
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality i've had lots of jobs in the REAL WORLD! i pay my own bills. i have cared for other peoples kids and done domestic chores. i'd rather work outside the home anytime, and come home to peace and quiet, not some moody crying husband. seeing how people had the notion that the husband is the boss and can do whatever to his wife/kids, there is no real way of knowing how much abuse has been ignored. it's a more recent development that police actually take domestic violence seriously
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Right, like the physical abuse of men by violent wives, men who don't have the good sense to defend themselves as they've been taught that women are weaker and deserving of special treatment no matter how appalling a woman's behavior is. All police departments also keep lists of growing numbers of female pedophiles..
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality abuse can take many forms, even undermining a person constantly to wear down their self-esteem. it's just dangerous for any person to have too much control over another. you know men have the option to visit hookers, and not deal with these awful women. but controling them and how they live is really not an option. if all the men were like you there'd be NO chance of me reproducing. luckily some men like strong, willful, outspoken, independent, intelligent , bad women! yeah!!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Yes abuse! Like the endless manipulation hashed out by women on their husbands because women feel entitled to what they want without having to earn it.
Huh' you can shame me with your manipulation, If someone like YOU approved of me I would be ashamed of myself..
An abusive man or (woman) could easily describe themselves as "strong, willful, outspoken, independent and even intelligent" I have no doubt you believe those things to be true of yourself, yet the proof remains...
embracingreality 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Who's generalizing? Research, statistics and a casual look around shows that women are desperate for commitment and marriage, NOT MEN! Feminism NEVER promoted equality, EVER!!! For example women demanded the right to vote when they turned 18, like men. However men ONLY are required to register for the military draft at the age of 18... So women want the right to a privilege but never even considered demanding the sacrifices, did they?
Your not seeing reality.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality i am a woman and not desperate for marriage or commitment. most women probably don't want to waste a tremendous amount of time on someone who isn't serious about anything. did it ever occur to you that men are spewing out these so called statistics and they might be distorted. are women people or are they numbers on a piece of paper? i am totally opposed to the draft! and about 1/2 of americans don't vote! a woman's whole life is about sacrifice, till she learns to say no!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny As I've pointed out a man who was "serious" as you say, likely won't risk marriage and children with a woman if he's smart because feminism has made it too risky. Dummy, WOMEN give much of the research and statistics from their own damn research about marriage failing as a result of feminism.
The ONLY reason you have any freedom at all is because men (many drafted) payed for it with their blood necessarily.
Convenient for you being "apposed" there on your pedestal now...
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality according to divorce.com feminism was not one of the top 10 reasons marriages fail. i suggest you google it so you may know the real reasons. you sound like a typical american male, fascist as hell! you should question your information sources. we aren't even dating and ALREADY you are starting the abusive shit! you could always marry some poor girl from another country like russia, they have to put up with your crap for 5 years to get the citizenship.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Even if the owners of Divorce.com genuinely believed feminism was reason for divorce why would they risk an unpopular opinion when their whole purpose is to make money and likely find clients for lawyers who make millions from it? Furthermore my point has been that marriage is declining as a result of feminism (men declining to marry!) Women profit from divorce.
Dammit Sweetie, a man isn't a "fascist" just because he's right and Russia is NOT a poor country!
Your impossible!
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality there are lots of other not for profit websites that say the same things. these days people would say such things, just for attention! dammit sweetie you just love to be quarrelsome! a facist is one who thinks their ideas are the only correct ones, without even considering other points! out of curiosity how many
books have you read by feminist authors? NONE?
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Are you 12 years old? There are lots of websites for every contradictory point of view! By your definition your a fascist.. however you spelled "facist" so you may have made up the word out of thin air as well as the absurd definition. Feminist ideology is widely know and preached' it doesn't take a 40 year old book to know what it's about as you should know if you watched "radical feminist statements" on youtube many by well know feminist authors spewing hate.
Your boring me.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality thanks for reminding me of why it is that women seldom bother to attempt real communication with men. total waste of energy! much easier to smile and giggle and let some asshole think he's superior, when it is clearly not true. you are the epitome of why women need feminist thought now more than ever. i'll save my discussions for women who know how to have an exchange. men just want to fight about anything, which really sucks! i'm done here.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny You mean save your discussions for SOME women who believe "feminism" (whatever it means to them) is always right no matter how irrational or contradictory to logical reality? Lots of women now appose much of "feminism" and there are ton's of websites and books authored by them! Your right though, you should just ignore everything those women and many men say and back up with facts and instead just believe whatever you make up in your head.
Lots of luck with that...
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality we can generalize about women and men all day. people are individuals who make choices. obviously marriage does not work well for most people. this is what's good about feminism, it promotes equality!! when there is economic equality, women do not need to enter relationships for economic reasons. they are free to sleep with whoever, (maybe you)? they can support their children without depending on a man. so you don't have to marry them to get sex. no need to barter services.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@embracingreality liberation for women also means liberation for men! i'm not sure what exactly your point is? you complain about women and marriage, and then complain that feminism is responsible for the break down of the family and destruction of marriages? in my mind feminism is simply the belief that women are human beings TOO! and deserve all of the same options and rights men have. people have made this an ugly word? sadly young women and girls do not identify themselves as feminist :(
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny We weren't talking about liberation dear, women were liberated and had the right to vote in 1920. Feminism (1960's to present) liberated women from WHAT? N O T H I N G... I already told you my point, feminism HARMED women and millions of modern women say so themselves but obviously not on mtv or whatever brilliant source of information for which you are so obviously a puppet. Consider hardcore pornography, are women depicted as "human TOO" there? Feminism made it possible.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality the solution here is clear, just find yourself one of those hard working fellas to support you, and be done with women for good! i read a lot and haven't watched bullshit tv programs in years, a little JEOPARDY sometimes. porn is part of a backlash against women, as men like you, are angry as hell about women wanting to choose how to live their lives. supply and demand! funny how men are so in need of viagra since all the porn is out.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Why, I don't need someone to support me. Honestly at this point I don't really need sex, want it a little but relationships are are so taxing on men they're hardly worth the tiny rewards after 40.. I noticed you didn't tell me just to buy "it"..
Um if porn is a "backlash against women" why do women participate in it???
You women really are your own worst enemies aren't you?
embracingreality 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny Hmm.. have you considered finding a nice metrosexual guy to push around? A little guy that wouldn't give you any trouble at all. You know the kind, looks a bit like a woman but acts more like a girl. He'll let you make all the decisions and do whatever he's told. A feminized man that can hardly even make eye contact with you. I bet he'll tell you he's a feminists! Hell he'll tell you anything you want him too! Does he sound sexy?
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality hilarious thanks for the laugh! i'll try most anything once, he does sound kinda hott!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny you make it sound like a woman supporting and helping a man is a bad thing...
flutternuttt 1 year ago
@flutternuttt do you ever take the time to understand what you read before commenting?
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny, I would love nothing more than a relationship free of domination, and full of self-sacrifice. But most Western women don't want that. Perhaps you want that, but that puts you in a small minority among Western women. Ask yourself - what's more important to you? That a man constantly be a good performer and tell good jokes, be mysterious and unpredictable and exciting, or be a reliable, loving, stable partner? Most Western women strongly want the former and not the latter.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak i value loyalty above all. how many men are truly loyal? i don't think a man needs to be constantly exciting and entertaining, however who wants to be around a dull and boring person? there must be a balance. too, people want different things at different stages of life. sometimes only after disappointment can we truly appreciate someone wonderful, and treat them well.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny "how many men are truly loyal" about the same number as women?
kev95 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny, as far as "wanting different things at different stages of life", Western women typically want the exciting, mysterious, unpredictable, emotionally distant, rebellious, shallow guy until their mid-forties, at which point they typically turn to nice guys only because they realize their financial situation sucks. Indeed, most Western women do not ever grow out of an adolescent mindset until they become senior citizens and realize they are very, very old.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak I would say that men are decietful and pretend to be all of these great things, until women are very attatched to them, at that point they start all of their abuse. a better question would be why are men in western culture so psychotic and abusive? how do we define nice? there are lots of men who are good providers, but abusive and controlling. people are individuals. some generalizations may be true. i am younger than 40's and desire a kind, intelligent, interesting man.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny What you said can easily be applied to western women as well.
kev95 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak i haven't found him yet! things with people are seldom what they appear to be. there are lots of good women who desire a good man. sometimes men tend to think too much of themselves, and are holding out for this totally gorgeous perfect woman who is probably never gonna show! i know many older men who never married and/or had kids, who are like this. then they wake up to find they are older and alone, surrounded by their many buddies and mom, but no family! 2 sides 2 every story
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny, also, at no point in life is preferring men of bad character to men of good character acceptable. Speaking of this in terms of "stages of life" is highly delusive, and makes a serious problem in Western culture appear harmless. If Western men preferred women of bad character for most of their lives (and many do), you surely wouldn't speak of this problem as just the normal development over "the stages of life".
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak maturity can be connected with age. many people need experience to learn things. economics does play a big part. women who are more educated and/or good earners have more options, and are not so dependant on a man for security. i would much rather work a lot than marry a person just for financial security. i would rather be poor than have that kind of marriage. i think it's more complicated than women liking "bad boys". just like men, women desire good sex.
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak the "bad boys" tend to be much better at sex. that is probably a big part of the attraction. women also desire emotional intimacy, which many men are unable or unwilling to give. just being dependable and having money is not enough! i would guess most people would like a total package. i know i do. i am much happier doing my own thing, than being tied up with someone who worries me to death and obsesses over my activities and thoughts. for me settling is not an option!
uranusisnotfunny 1 year ago
@uranusisnotfunny A typical feminist reply. What, not intelligent to debate logically?
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
it ain't good for men!
and young men don't sign contracts with new age gals as they honour them in the breach
wimyn see men as dupes
shazam20007 2 years ago
Why do feminist oppse over the counter DNA test in a country where over 30% of women who accuse men of being the father are not so they cannot find out? Why do feminist oppose any joint custody for fathers giving women 97% of the time 100% custody of children for higher child support payments. They legally separate the father from the child he must then go back into court spend thousands on a lawyer then is legally termed a visitor Feminist have made divorce attractive for women look at society
coptic777 2 years ago
Why so people can purposely fuck up otc DNA tests? lol. Get a DNA test court ordered at the child support hearing.
I don't know why you're generalizing so much-- feminist this, feminists that. So ignorant. I'm sorry the system screwed you, but that's really not the fault of feminists.
Feminists have made not getting married at all attractive. Independence is a wonderful thing. I'm so glad I'm a modern woman, because I don't think I could put up with someone elses' shit all the time. Hahaha
EMIRIzilla 2 years ago
The 1st part of your comment shows that you are not thinking. The home dna test is cheap & much more simple then going through a court hearing for the purpose of finding out the truth about paternity thats what I was saying & the femnist groups oppose it. That point makes sense yours does not. Oh yea even if the test comes back negative you can still be forced to pay "in the best interest of the child" if you have done anything to provide tag your it....
coptic777 2 years ago