Italian 1891 M91 Paraviccini Carcano 6.5 Infantry Long Rifle at 420 yards

[67dodgepolara]

I just got the shorter-version of this. How do you load the thing ? I guess maybe I need the speed-loader thing ? the rounds won't go in one at a time it seems....

[bezerk47]

My dad just got one today and i want to thank you because i was looking on google for the clips and i couldnt find one until i saw your video

[rudolfaudi80]

i own i bayonet for this rifle...i buyed for 15 $..i dont know if that bayonet was used by the italian forces during ww1 or ww2..albanian army during king Zog era used italian rifles so im confused...

[TheGrasslander]

Using black paint makes a lot of sense. No corrosion or rust and easy to clean.

[rainmechanic]

That ol girl has nicer metal & wood on her then most of the current sporting grade rifles... Outstanding... Gorgeous.

Results from 1000yd competitions seem to indicate that the 6.5mm bore is the ultimat long range projectile.... 6.5mm bore appears to have that near perfect blend of sectional density and ballistic coefficient necessary for outstanding long range accuracy.. and does it with very managable recoil.

Those ultra long for caliber 160gr bullets are just plain cool. 

[Rubino33]

I need to find one of these.

[TheBelva85]

What do you think about "Partizan" ammo?

[dontmakemeMAD1990]

will be in cod

now it has 21059 views

i wonder in then months....:/

[Tekhazai]

@dontmakemeMAD1990 yea i know

watch u and me will be flamed for reminding COD xD

[dontmakemeMAD1990]

@Tekhazai exualy iam one of the people that flame people who post gamereerences over and over on places where they dont belong

in anny case, the carcano doesnt say much to me

zastava m93

thats the way to go :)

[Xerxes1688]

I really like these old long rifles. The progressive rifling sounds like an interesting concept.

[Jjrdn10]

ive got 3 of these rifles 2 have been sportorized.norma is one of the only companys that sell shells and there about 25.00 a box.but you can reload for about 6.50 a box.the first one i got my father left me,and it looks just like the one that killed kennedy it just doesnt have the scope on it.every time i go to a gun show i look for them.ive got a couple friends that collect them.there getting hard to find.the only problem with the gun is all the safetys are bad.or all the ones ive seen.good gun

[Gjldo]

@Jjrdn10 watch out for norma case it has an incorrect extractor groove that could cause problems (the groove is thinner and so the round could leave the extractor while being chambered), prvi partizan produce a case with he exact dimension

[Lukailgenio94]

"TERNI" is a city in Umbria region.

[VingadorAzul1]

yeahhh

Lee Oswald was right.

[mag30th]

@ VingadorAzul1 LHO did not use this type rifle.

[HackerHater2011]

@mag30th same variant and caliber as LHO though, right?

[Nanobagongo1]

@VingadorAzul1 He used the 91/38, a carabine version

[warchildren1]

@VingadorAzul1 -Yea, This gun seems to be more popular because of Lee than the Italian Army, lmfao!

[littleboyrobert1997]

wow why are the bullets round tipped? that would not kil easily

[WurledPeas]

Nice rifle. I should have picked on of the carbines up when they were still $50 in my area years ago.

[TheBelva85]

Well, the rifle wasn't great, but very cost effective.

Catrdige was ahead of its time really, imagine a semiautomatic, reliable rifle firing 6.5 carcano in ww1... that would have been a very bad surprise for the austrians.

[billme8]

Great shooting! I had always heard that rifle was a mediocre model. Seems to shoot perfectly.

[blownglasslide]

Wow mag, your boy has got serious talent. I hope he decides to keep going on that guitar!

[mag30th]

Thank you! He is very talented!  Thanks!

[chrisfalc500]

@blownglasslide

copy that its damn good stuff

[FOXHOUNDAio87]

Nice Rifle... and really nice Vid!

Good Job!

[Sephiorth]

the Carcano my friend just bought is still the two tone wood and black metal, but the rear sights were replaced

[chochopoopoo]

when i bought mine, the numnuts had spraypainted the barrel black and it looked shitty

[mag30th]

Many of the carcanos were spray painted black by the Italian army during WWII, my carbine is spray painted black as well as Lee Oswalds rifle.

[GuitarQueero1]

This one wasn't that bad but the short rifle wasn't that great.

[jimjam69]

Nice demonstration and nice music as well:)

[gippobastard]

MADE IN ITALY!!

[TheGunguy1]

isint that what jfk was assanted with

[GimmiSS]

Tutti i Carcano sono fucili ottimi, precisi e costruiti con ottimi acciai. Che poi nella II GM siano diventati anacronistici è un'altro paio di maniche, come dire che il Garand era uno schifo perchè l'M14 è migliore... Anche l'idea del fucile 38 era valida, il proiettile 7,35 era ottimo,e si potevano rialesare le canne usurate dei 6,5 senza doverle buttare via. Peccato che avevamo le pezze dove ci si siede e che le Breda non erano fatte nel nuovo calibro

[Gjldo]

be aspetta quali breda?

se intendi le mitragliatrici breda 37 eran in 8 breda che era un calibro migliore sia del6,5 che del 7,35

se invece dici le breda 30 esisteva anche la versione in 7,35 che ogni tanto viene chiamata breda 38 (da non confondere con la versione da carri della 37) o breda 30S

[Andre23x3]

quello che volevo dire è che rispetto agli altri fucili della seconda guerra questo era un schifo...

molto meglio il garand USA che non era un bolt-action...ed era un po' più preciso...

[monsterbucksonly]

where do u get the ammo for your weapon ?

[mag30th]

I handload it.

[Andre23x3]

il peggior fucile della seconda guerra mondiale...

[soldatojoker69]

e qui ti sbagli andre23x3: il 91 in sé era un gran bel fucile molto affidabile leggero e preciso. purtroppo i modelli prodotti che entrarono in servizio nella seconda guerra mondiale erano molto datati e avevano già combattuto: durante il fascismo accorciarono la canna modificandone anche la rigatura aumentarono il calibro per far fronte ai costi di produzione...il risultato era una merda

[Gjldo]

be no il fucile corto modello 38 era un arma validissima, solo che causa problimi logistici son dovuti tornare al 6.5,

il proiettile 7.35 ha prestazioni simili al 7,62 nato, inoltre la tacca di mira fissa a 200 metri permetteva di colpire un uomo fra i 0 e i 300 metri solamente mirando al centro del petto eliminando quindi il problema dell'alzo

[mekhet83]

Concordo sul tuo discorso,lo rovinarono.

Anche se devo dire che preferisco il Mauser Karabiner 98...

[dottaz]

Bè ragazzi.. inutile dire che il Mauser fosse un progetto estremamente più valido del nostro, i capitali da investire erano altri, così come per l'Enfield!(tra l'altro sempre snobbato dagli inglesi), ma non tiriamo a zero sul nostro Carcano, che un pò tra leggende un pò per l' invidia verso le armi straniere viene sempre sottovalutato, mentre per quanto riguarda il suo scopo.. è un fucile come un altro, molto preciso tra l'altro.

[mekhet83]

No no,ma hai ragione per carità.

Io dico solo che il Carcano fintanto che era originale,con la canna lunga e il calibro giusto era un gran moschetto.

L'hanno rovinato durante il ventennio.

[mag30th]

1 of 2 How can you claim it was the worst gun in WWII? Please explain what the problems were with this gun to give it such a reputation? Most negative claims against the Carcano arose AFTER the JFK assassination, by those who felt it was a conspiracy. This rifle (designed in 1891) is very accurate, the 6.5 round is very powerful (significantly more powerful than the modern .223) and the rifles are fool proof.

[mag30th]

2 of 2 Fifty years after it was designed, it was still a decent rifle in WWII. I assure you that there would not be anyone outside of easy striking distance within 650 yards against a decent soldier carrying this rifle.

[libbons]

I live in Terni, near the Factory Weapon!

This rifle is the symbol of Terni , like San Valentino and "Lu pampepato"..

[RifleGlory]

great video

[sbirroetrusco]

The real name of this rifle is mod. 91! I am Italian and I live 30 Km near weapons of TERNI. I think very lucky to have some specimens. When american troops landed in italy they took thousands of Italian rifle because they were lighter and the bullet was very faster!

[Gjldo]

not just 91, 91' was the way troops called it

Fucile modello 1891; original 91

Moschetto modello 1891; 91cav

Moschetto modello 1891 per truppe speciali; 91ts

from the official adopting acts

[sbirroetrusco]

no. il 91 is not rifle is a musket. here in italy we classify as. There are various models of musket;

the long 91 is called: 91 fanteria (91 infantry)

the short 91 is called: 91 cavalleria (91cavalry)

the short 91 for special troops is called: 91 Truppe Speciali (91 special troops)

[Gjldo]

the standard 91 (a gun 128 cm long can't be classified as musket by the way) and by the way this is the text of the adopting act

where is classified as fucile (rifle) and not as moschetto(musket) as the 91 cav or 91 ts

[Gjldo]

Atto n°57 :

Adozione del fucile Mod 1891 e delle cartucce a pallottola, da salve e da esercitazione Mod 1891.

[Gjldo]

E' adottato ed introdotto in servizio un nuovo fucile del

calibro di mm. 6,5 e che prenderà la denominazione di

FUCILE MODELLO 1891. Sono pure adottate ed introdotte

in servizio le cartucce del detto fucile, e che prenderanno

le denominazioni seguenti: CARTUCCIA A PALLOTTOLA

MODELLO 1891, CARTUCCIA DA SALVE MODELLO 1891,

CARTUCCIA DA ESERCITAZIONE MODELLO 1891.

[Gjldo]

A tempo opportuno saranno date le disposizioni per

regolare la distribuzione della detta arma e delle relative

cartucce ai corpi che ne dovranno essere provveduti.

Il Ministro: Pelloux

[sbirroetrusco]

fortua che sei italiano non ce la faccio a scrive in inglese!! Vai da qualsiesi vecchio che trovi nel tuo paese o città, che abbia combattuto ovviamente, te lo dirà lui come si chiama!

[Gjldo]

lo chiamerà 91 non moschetto

prendi che ne so il libro di rigoni stern(il sergente nella neve), dove dice che a un certo punto gli viene rubato il suo "moschetto che sparava tanto bene" (riferendosi a una delle varianti del 38)

e accetta il fucile solo perchè spara le stesse munizioni(un 91/41)

e cmq delle 15 varianti del novantuno (escludendo altre 5 varianti prototipali) 5 erano fucili e 10 moschetti.

[ToLetTheWorldBe]

hey man, just bought the carbine 5 minutes ago. when I get brass you want it?

[ccsniper]

what recoil does a 7.62x54 have?

[bpowersman5000]

12-13 pounds I believe

[mag30th]

The 91.30 sniper weighs 9.0 pounds, and with the 200 grain match round fired at 2,625 FPS, and with 50.4 grains of powder, the recoil calculates to 20.44 pounds of recoil.

[wwood14]

Progressive rifling sounds interesting.  does it make the rifle more accurate?

[Gjldo]

it wasn't done to made it more accurate, but to remain accurate for a longer time

[Gjldo]

also the rifling was made to solve bullets and friction problems

in the prtototypes constant rifling barrels suffered to much wear for friction in the chamber area (the bullet on the carcano should leave the barrel at about 3.500 rpm)

also the bullet sometimes lost its jacket

to solve those problems was adopted the progressive rifling designed by Major Pietro Galelli Colombo

[eisentzgruppe]

Comparate to the other rifles was indistructible: it shoots always, in every conditions

[Gjldo]

well carcano bolt is not indistructible, under a particular circustance it kills the shooter or luckly it blinds one eye, but in other conditions is as stronger as other bolt actions

[enfield1576]

Just to let everyone know for so long everyone says the ammo is hard to find. It's actually really easy and plentyfull. Hornady makes it, Wolf makes it, Sellior and Bellot make it, and you can get Hornady online for 20 bucks a box, Norma is making it again for around 38 a box. The clips are all over the place to online. Cheap to buy and very fun to shoot. As this guy shows us. I have a few cavalry carbines and two 91/41s and they are all accurate out to 500 yards open site in a 7 inch area.

[Kyvolsfan73]

Yeah but it is also expensive ($15+), while 7.62x54R or 8mm Mauser can be bought surplus for around $5 dollars a box, but the carcano is still a great rifle!

[DanOblacksmith]

This rifle seems comparable in many respects to the M96 Swedish Mauser in 6.5X55 mm.

[izzy1948]

great video of the carcano and good shooting too. I like the song as well, very relaxing.

[cabarifader89]

thx for the video from an Italian:), stars 5/5

[RifleGlory]

cool video.

[tarcio4ever]

this is a great rifle that was using by Italian royal army since 1890 to 1945

[Gjldo]

actually in some corpes (especially in police) it was used till 70's

[dudxkr111]

카르카노 소총이 노리쇠가 엄청 뻑뻑할줄 알았는데;;

[ramberghini]

they look pretty neat, but i hear they have a stiff action. is that true?

[gioiello1986]

grandioso! il nostro mitico fucile usato dai nostri nonni nei fronti della grande guerra

[Ashwilliamskithe3rd]

Easily the best gun based clip I've seen on youtube so far. Great detail of the rifle, with relevant performance information and comparative data, and clear footage of the shots being fired. A top quality clip all round.

[mag30th]

Thanks!

[kjsh987]

hey those bullets aren´t difficult to find?

[Flint870]

kjsh987,

Try midwayusa*com or grafs*com for bullets, shells, ammo, or reloading dies.

The right bullet for a 6.5x52mm Carcano is 0.268" in diameter and about 160 grains. If there is any doubt, try slugging your barrel for the right sized bullet.

[kjsh987]

hey great performance of your kid

[kjsh987]

nice shoot, have the same optic system as the mossin rifle, right?

[gooyzit]

Wasn't that the same type of rifle that killed Kennendy

[TheCerbero]

yes,it is

[mag30th]

No, the rifle that Oswald used to shoot Kennedy was the later version, the carbine, the 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano (91/38) M1938.

I have a video posted about it under "6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano (91/38) M1938 at 420 yards."

[Kyvolsfan73]

Yeah, a local gunshop has a 38 carbine for $100, would you recommend buying it?

Thanks

[mag30th]

Yes, but only if you are able to acquire ammo for it. Ammo if hard to find, I reload mine, and brass is still about $1 per round. Also the projectiles are .268, and all 6.5 bullets are .264, the the .268s are special order.

But..... they are fun rifles to shoot... :-) I would pick it up either way... :-)

[Kyvolsfan73]

Ok, thanks. Yeah, that seems to be the issue, but it comes with some ammo but I'm sure it's not enough!

[mag30th]

Dont part with the brass though. :-)

Let me know if you pick it up!

Thanks!

Ernest.

[Kyvolsfan73]

Ok, will do. I went to the shop today and looked at the gun. Unfortunately, it has a sporterized wooden stock with a cheek pad built into the stock but it still looks awesome!

[eisentzgruppe]

vivia l'italia

[mauser3846]

nice rife what year was it made?

[mag30th]

Thanks!! 1917.

[ctford27]

nice shooting brother! how accurate are the carbines? i heard they aren't that great even though one did manage to shoot the president and a governor, may they rest in peace.

[mag30th]

Ive done a clip on the carbine also, it is titled, "1941 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano (91/38) M1938 at 420 yards."

Thanks!

[norwegianwiking]

Interesting rifle, nad good shooting as allways.

[jubbles2343]

does a rifle become more accurate once the barrel has warmed up?

[mag30th]

The pattern does become more consistant once it it warmed , yes.

[Gungeek]

I think the twist starts at about 1in18 and speeds up to 1in8.

[mag30th]

That sounds right, it starts very slow and really tightens up!

Thanks!!

[Gungeek]

Great looking Carcano Rifle... =]

[xjedi13x]

Great video, thank you for sharing. It was very educational. You are quite an amazing shot. Keep it up my friend!

[richarddr1234]

first time i heard of this gun. this isnt the one that killed kennedy right?

[mag30th]

The one that Oswald used was a carbine version, it came out forty years after this one.