Thanks Sugarfree and Ulgrum... I'm sorry I used the word "intelligence" as the debate around this takes away from the important message in the video. That humans can link their intelligence and perhaps achieve some kind of collective consciousness. Macrowikinomics is about humans not animals. What do you all think of the idea of humans achieving collective intelligence?
I love birds. I think this book talks about one of the most important ways we can save our planet, let alone birds. yes, birds are intellignet. he made a mistake there. I don't mind that he said that though, because I want peoplt to read this book, especially people in business and people that are married to the old way. Maybe this even gives him cred in their circles. Regarldless, lets read this book and apply it towards true ecological sustainability!!
Lost me at "starlings are neither intelligent nor conscious." I look at this and see classic group mind in action. Maybe it's just that groups that are connected form minds, groups of cells, groups of people (mob mentality is well documented), and groups of animals too as seen here. The point is, connected we are emergently strong.
The speaker is incorrect in saying these birds are not intelligent. Starlings (and all beings) have both individual and collective intelligence. As far as humans not using their collective intelligence to accomplish things on this planet (he thinks), we do, and it is a constant process.
Is it food? Why does the "flock" seem to be around water? Do we know why? If we know why, how do we continue to trash our natural world in the face of such obvious beauty? Why do we doubt the fact that we are just another habitant in this world? We do NOT own the world or its resources!
Is it food? Why does the "flock" seem to be around water? Do we know why? If we know why, how do we continue to trash our natural world in the face of such obvious beauty? Why do we doubt the fact that we are just another habitant in this world? We do NOT own the world or its resouces!
@smokinlavalamp absolutely................why do humans always think they are so much better? These birds might be so much happier with their life than we are always trying to achieve more and more and trying to be better and better......
This is a piece of work that cannot be either liked, nor disliked. The imagery and music tie in together to make a perfect piece, if not for the slanderous commentary stating that not just these birds, but all birds, have no intelligence, and no consciousness to speak of. If birds were unintelligent, then they would not know to find food, to run from predators... it is not just instinct. Instinct is created by knowledge; knowledge comes from intelligence. Therefore, birds are intelligent.
@InvalidationX145 1) i can like or dislike w/e I want 2) instinct is an evolutionary buildup of thousands of years of environmental feedback, hardcoded in the DNA and epigenetic proteins of a species 3) birds are intelligent because they can learn new things
@InvalidationX145 Thank you. I was just going to say that. He said "this is not a collective intelligence or collective consciousness, of course, because individual birds are not intelligent or conscious." The nerve! How can one look at this display and make such a foolish statement? Birds are not intelligent or conscious?! What are this guy's definitions of intelligent and conscious? What a surprising display of ignorance.
I should add and agree with most of the comments below about the narration. It detracted significantly from the obviously more intelligent display of flock behavior as an organic form of intelligence both beautiful and functional. For a while I thought I had the wrong audio and soon muted it.
The swirling morphology of the flock as a whole is mesmerizing to b sure. If one watches the behavior of the crisp margins one notes exploratory phalanges of brds one of which is right at thepredator, seemingly to have a look and then, in a moment, merge back toward the center of the mass. Then I look at this I wonder if it is an analog of how our own brains cobble together our consciousness.
Beautiful images, pleasant score, disturbingly idiotic naration - there is no "collaboration" among starlings, merely the instinct to avoid predation by hiding among other birds. This, coupled with the nimbleness of starlings, and their individual desires causes the ballet in this film. This is a free market; the manifestation of Smith's "invisible hand"
Yes - the idea of a subconscious layer of interactions between organisations has a logical appeal. Facilitated perhaps bey awareness of benefits of collaboration amongst those who lead the organisations.
"I loved the video and the commentary. The idea that maybe through the web we could achieve some better understanding, collective intelligence or even consciousness is to me a powerful one."
Perhaps the narrator meant that individual bird consciousness wasn't guiding the group when he commented about intelligence..dunno cause birds are obviously intelligent. I was glad to hear some of the bird facts but could do without the wish to grab starling talent and translate it to human organizations. I can see corporate leaders' mouths watering at the prospect of such pack mentality demonstrated on behalf of the corporate bottom line. I'd have preferred starling wing noise to human narrati
Why would you think that turning human beings, individual, intelligent, each one unique, into a collectivized mass like a bunch of instinctive birds, would be progress?! You are sadly misguided. Bettina, I'm not surprised to see you flogging mass geek ecstatic experiences like the Rally for the Wired Elite.
Yes, some of the terminology (ie, are birds "intelligent") are open to interpretation (in my opinion, all living things have an innate intelligence that guides their actions and growth and survival; although I'm sure Mr. Tapscott was referring to the conscious thought process that is, as far as we know, unique to humans). And there are a few other words I could quibble over, but that's merely nitpicking. All in all, this is a fantastic visual treat and a thoughtful message.
"our failing institutions?" compared to what? pre-internet 1980ies? 1970ies? 1950ies? 19th century? middle ages? Would you really rather live in a different age?
How does the narrator know the starlings aren't intelligent? I don't doubt he doesn't understand their intelligence (as he isn't a starling) but to say he can't understand it means it doesn't exist is idiotic. He can see the pattern of their intelligence but he discounts that evidence for a self serving bias.
This video consolidates the one single theme that we, as humans, are faced with the capacity & enormous opportunity to connect and make changes and dynamically over come any political agenda and better yet to make the changes that we need to survive for another millennium!
Think this could be shown at all conferences in the UK, it should be a flagship video for the Big Society. I think it is brilliant, but we are a while off being able to get everyone to collaborate digitally, probably due to the fact that a third of the country can't get a decent, fit for purpose connection through the obsolete copper phone network... but the future is coming. It just isn't here yet, but when it is we can make the most of digital technology to join the dots.
Nice video but these are not the moors of England, it's farmland. Moors are typically high elevation, tree less and windswept places, often covered in heather.
This is the doings of the Government. Subliminal messages, mechanical birds. Lies!
salasvalor01 1 month ago
Thanks Sugarfree and Ulgrum... I'm sorry I used the word "intelligence" as the debate around this takes away from the important message in the video. That humans can link their intelligence and perhaps achieve some kind of collective consciousness. Macrowikinomics is about humans not animals. What do you all think of the idea of humans achieving collective intelligence?
tappyrugger 1 month ago
I love birds. I think this book talks about one of the most important ways we can save our planet, let alone birds. yes, birds are intellignet. he made a mistake there. I don't mind that he said that though, because I want peoplt to read this book, especially people in business and people that are married to the old way. Maybe this even gives him cred in their circles. Regarldless, lets read this book and apply it towards true ecological sustainability!!
sugarfreejohnnyg1 1 month ago
@ulgrum Sorry, I just prefer my truth to be lie free, I haven't completely missed the point of anything.
Morpheus04200 1 month ago
To people focused on the the "intelligence quote" about the birds, you are completely missing the point of this video!
ulgrum 1 month ago
Lost me at "starlings are neither intelligent nor conscious." I look at this and see classic group mind in action. Maybe it's just that groups that are connected form minds, groups of cells, groups of people (mob mentality is well documented), and groups of animals too as seen here. The point is, connected we are emergently strong.
Morpheus04200 1 month ago
This is similar to the 100th monkey effect. It speaks about being subconsciously connected to which ideas are shared on a large scale.
lurdk 2 months ago
The speaker is incorrect in saying these birds are not intelligent. Starlings (and all beings) have both individual and collective intelligence. As far as humans not using their collective intelligence to accomplish things on this planet (he thinks), we do, and it is a constant process.
cev2012christine 2 months ago
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Is it food? Why does the "flock" seem to be around water? Do we know why? If we know why, how do we continue to trash our natural world in the face of such obvious beauty? Why do we doubt the fact that we are just another habitant in this world? We do NOT own the world or its resources!
LyracidalOfficial 2 months ago
Is it food? Why does the "flock" seem to be around water? Do we know why? If we know why, how do we continue to trash our natural world in the face of such obvious beauty? Why do we doubt the fact that we are just another habitant in this world? We do NOT own the world or its resouces!
LyracidalOfficial 2 months ago
WOW that's a lot of pidgeys!
LimitedWard 3 months ago
I love fried starling
ishockmyself 3 months ago
every creature on earth is beautiful and intelligent ..
KelsiieKetamine 3 months ago
@smokinlavalamp absolutely................why do humans always think they are so much better? These birds might be so much happier with their life than we are always trying to achieve more and more and trying to be better and better......
chalomot 3 months ago 3
Macrowikinomics - Don Tapscott #dldconference
Love the gift of Nature and Love this classic song. Great match.
Angelia2041 1 year ago
ji
starfire0007 1 year ago
This harmony for human on Earth will be only possible when there is no more BUSH and BLAIR are on Earth but minds like Gandhi.
AreshElohimy 1 year ago
This is a piece of work that cannot be either liked, nor disliked. The imagery and music tie in together to make a perfect piece, if not for the slanderous commentary stating that not just these birds, but all birds, have no intelligence, and no consciousness to speak of. If birds were unintelligent, then they would not know to find food, to run from predators... it is not just instinct. Instinct is created by knowledge; knowledge comes from intelligence. Therefore, birds are intelligent.
InvalidationX145 1 year ago 12
@InvalidationX145 1) i can like or dislike w/e I want 2) instinct is an evolutionary buildup of thousands of years of environmental feedback, hardcoded in the DNA and epigenetic proteins of a species 3) birds are intelligent because they can learn new things
ManiacKomplex 3 months ago 2
@InvalidationX145 i like it....
bbbcraze 3 months ago
@InvalidationX145 Thank you. I was just going to say that. He said "this is not a collective intelligence or collective consciousness, of course, because individual birds are not intelligent or conscious." The nerve! How can one look at this display and make such a foolish statement? Birds are not intelligent or conscious?! What are this guy's definitions of intelligent and conscious? What a surprising display of ignorance.
JFreedom28 1 month ago
@InvalidationX145 I think you need to open your mind a little
.Instinct plays more of a role than you care to even think about.
DrumguyCiv 1 month ago
I should add and agree with most of the comments below about the narration. It detracted significantly from the obviously more intelligent display of flock behavior as an organic form of intelligence both beautiful and functional. For a while I thought I had the wrong audio and soon muted it.
svsomerville 1 year ago
The swirling morphology of the flock as a whole is mesmerizing to b sure. If one watches the behavior of the crisp margins one notes exploratory phalanges of brds one of which is right at thepredator, seemingly to have a look and then, in a moment, merge back toward the center of the mass. Then I look at this I wonder if it is an analog of how our own brains cobble together our consciousness.
svsomerville 1 year ago
Skype: fabio.sipolino1
PolisCorporation 1 year ago
Beautiful images, pleasant score, disturbingly idiotic naration - there is no "collaboration" among starlings, merely the instinct to avoid predation by hiding among other birds. This, coupled with the nimbleness of starlings, and their individual desires causes the ballet in this film. This is a free market; the manifestation of Smith's "invisible hand"
kindwar 1 year ago
Great analogy!
ricktawny 1 year ago
Intelligence from means of survival or like human consciouses are very different..were we not birds once in evolution...
MrFJC 1 year ago
Yes - the idea of a subconscious layer of interactions between organisations has a logical appeal. Facilitated perhaps bey awareness of benefits of collaboration amongst those who lead the organisations.
barryjogorman 1 year ago
"I loved the video and the commentary. The idea that maybe through the web we could achieve some better understanding, collective intelligence or even consciousness is to me a powerful one."
MsLauraTurner 1 year ago
LOVE this video! Its a perfect analogy and so inspiring!
lanaflan 1 year ago
Perhaps the narrator meant that individual bird consciousness wasn't guiding the group when he commented about intelligence..dunno cause birds are obviously intelligent. I was glad to hear some of the bird facts but could do without the wish to grab starling talent and translate it to human organizations. I can see corporate leaders' mouths watering at the prospect of such pack mentality demonstrated on behalf of the corporate bottom line. I'd have preferred starling wing noise to human narrati
MerrySuu 1 year ago
Why would you think that turning human beings, individual, intelligent, each one unique, into a collectivized mass like a bunch of instinctive birds, would be progress?! You are sadly misguided. Bettina, I'm not surprised to see you flogging mass geek ecstatic experiences like the Rally for the Wired Elite.
ProkofyNeva 1 year ago
Yes, some of the terminology (ie, are birds "intelligent") are open to interpretation (in my opinion, all living things have an innate intelligence that guides their actions and growth and survival; although I'm sure Mr. Tapscott was referring to the conscious thought process that is, as far as we know, unique to humans). And there are a few other words I could quibble over, but that's merely nitpicking. All in all, this is a fantastic visual treat and a thoughtful message.
GrannyGamer 1 year ago
Intelligence is the ability to learn and deal with new situations. Of course birds are intelligent. How is that even in question?
BikingWithColdWater 1 year ago
"our failing institutions?" compared to what? pre-internet 1980ies? 1970ies? 1950ies? 19th century? middle ages? Would you really rather live in a different age?
garvic7 1 year ago
How does the narrator know the starlings aren't intelligent? I don't doubt he doesn't understand their intelligence (as he isn't a starling) but to say he can't understand it means it doesn't exist is idiotic. He can see the pattern of their intelligence but he discounts that evidence for a self serving bias.
mohi001 1 year ago
This video consolidates the one single theme that we, as humans, are faced with the capacity & enormous opportunity to connect and make changes and dynamically over come any political agenda and better yet to make the changes that we need to survive for another millennium!
justorace 1 year ago 4
Think this could be shown at all conferences in the UK, it should be a flagship video for the Big Society. I think it is brilliant, but we are a while off being able to get everyone to collaborate digitally, probably due to the fact that a third of the country can't get a decent, fit for purpose connection through the obsolete copper phone network... but the future is coming. It just isn't here yet, but when it is we can make the most of digital technology to join the dots.
cyberdoyle 1 year ago 2
Nice video but these are not the moors of England, it's farmland. Moors are typically high elevation, tree less and windswept places, often covered in heather.
TooRoundLtd 1 year ago 2
In a few hours we will commit murmuration at the Rally for Sanity.
Bettinatizzy 1 year ago
awesome
minde185 1 year ago 2