I am ashamed to say I did'nt really know . This video goes to the heart . Maybe soon there will be a change . There and all over the world . Who knows ?
lol fake videos.. great job. learn to do some research... good thing to know those south koreans are westernized like little clueless sheep and daddy america having a watchful eye.USA and japan destroyed your culture... oh well, guess it was shit anyways
This is absolutely fantastic. It really does get the message across of the terrible need the people of the country faces. And the worst part is that it's PREVENTABLE and almost done on purpose.
Would you mind sending me the background music (without the voice) so I can use it in a mini-documentary I'm making on North Korea for class?
juche tower is a rip off of the washington monument. Kim jong il is a sell out bitch, who loves american luxuries and exploits his people and country. North Korea makes me so sick.
God, for You everything is possible! We just pray, help all the suffering people of NK. Father, forgive the leaders and military of this nation, for they don't know what they do! God, heal this nation with Your love!
Pray, my friends! When the borders open, there's a gospel to preach there!
If N. Korea was such a workers paradise there would be no people who risk their life to escape it and live in constant fear when they reach China because Chinese CCP sends them back. If N. Korea was such a good country it would let the media in and let them travel around freely. N. Korea has a lot to hide and any vid on here about a reasonable filled supermarket is propaganda. Only the very rich and very few favorited by the regime can go to such a store and the main city is just a showcase.
I don't know what the political situation may be, today, between North Korea and China, but I have a strong hunch that it may bear some relevance in regards to the continued existence of the political regime of the latter. Maybe it's only a hunch, and maybe not.
I don't know what the political relation may be, today, between China and North Korea, but I have a hunch that it may bear some relevance in regards to the continued existence of the latter. Maybe it's only a hunch, maybe not.
[2010-11-27/5A] Cursing and name-calling is a little childish, even more so when it's done long-distance. And it never solves anything, it only fuels up the anger. It shows disrespect. Instead we should try to love our enemies, albeit that their deeds are to be condemned.
You'd better use your energy for compassion with the victims and to see what you can do for them instead of being angry with the perpetrators. Our goal should not be... [see 11-27/5B]
[2010-11-27/5B] ... Our goal should not be to get Kim Jong-il or his regime behind bars, but to get the victims of his regime out of their horrible situation (concentration camps, starvation, extreme hard labor, guinea-pigs for testing chemical and biological weapons, etc).
@DavidKoHannah Very true. I feel that sometimes even Kim's might want to end this crazy game, but they are too afraid of aftermath. They see no option of continuing, knowing that their days are numbered. I'm sure at times, Kim gets tortured at night of fear. We've seen last days of so many dictators. I think he can't stop. He has no choice in his mind.
[2010-11-27/3A] Sorry for the late response, atahualpa. I've been a bit busy lately.
Please, let me tell you something about my God. My God's Son Jesus Christ died for us on the cross (and rose again after three days), and tells us to love even our enemies.
My God has a beautiful place in store for everyone who really wants it (see John 3 verse 14 upto 21 in the Bible, see biblegateway com, e.g. New King James Version). Even the vicious rulers of... [see 11-27/3B]
[2010-11-27/3B] ... Even the vicious rulers of this world can get forgiveness with my God if they finally see their mistakes and admit they are wrong. So, my God is waiting for these rulers, and other people, to repent and acknowledge God and His Love, so that they won't end up in hell. For that He seems even to tolerate the suffering of His children, starting with Jesus, and now also happening in the camps of North Korea. But at a certain point it... [see 11-27/3C]
[2010-11-27/3C] ... But at a certain point it is enough, and this world will see His rule. At the moment the world sees His mercy.
But of course, God doesn't want cruelty to exist, and He would want it to end soon. It's just that He doesn't want to use brute force for it, at least not too soon. He once wiped out almost all of mankind with a big flood, but after that He made us a promise to never do such a thing again.
[2010-11-27/3D] ... Well, that's as far as I can understand it. I'm not saying I fully grasp it all of the times. I'm just human. He's much bigger than me, has higher thoughts than you or me. After all, He created the universe, and time, and all that. Sometimes I would like to scream with the martyrs in the book of Revelation (see Rev. 6:10): "How long until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" (see biblegateway com, New King... [see 11-27/3E]
[2010-11-27/3E] ... (see biblegateway com, New King James Version). But mostly that doesn't last long, because I just know that God is the most divine and sensitive being we could ever imagine. And that we must admit that our brains are too small to fully grasp His thoughts.
[2010-11-27/3F] ... BTW, to answer your statement about responsibility: Only God knows the ones responsible for the suffering in North Korea, because it might all be so secretly done, but I guess the elite of North Korea has some share in it. But then only God can see what's been going on in the minds and hearts of people that made them commit a certain vicious deed, and so... [see 11-27/3G]
[2010-11-27/3G] ... commit a certain vicious deed, and so He's the only One who can judge them. And the main evildoer is Satan who keeps us busy with one lie after another in the minds of so many; facilitating hatred, and war, etc. God on the other hand tries to influence our minds and hearts with loving, peaceful, and forgiving thoughts.
@DavidKoHannah yeah! i knew it! Satan! oh yeah....that angel who dared to be different. Who somehow had a little opinion of his own which was of course later squashed under the big boots of Mr. God...this God demands total obedience...so dont you think its God's fault that there IS a Satan in the first place? since he is omniscient ,God wud have known about Satan's rebellion beforehand...why did he make an angel with flaws? does this mean that sometimes God errs too? why is he so jealous?
@DavidKoHannah How does Satan act against God if God is all-powerful? Why the entire sham of 'sin' and 'temptation'? why not wipe out Satan in one fell sweep? If , within a work environment,you allow a defective piece of machinery(Satan) to continuously militate another piece of machinery which you know is prone to errors(Man) im sorry to say youre not a very good manufacturer or manager. And these are mundane, human standards... why leave it on the machine to develop a resistance of its own?
[2010-11-27/9A] I don't have much time for this, and it goes beyond the purpose of this site to make a full study of God/Jesus with you, since you apparently have so much to learn on this matter. I suggest you start reading the Bible, and/or ask some local christians (or 'God/Jesus sites') to explain all these things to you, or look elsewhere for my comments on my two video pages, because I already dealt with a lot of 'God questions' in these pages. That is, IFF you are... [see 11-27/9B]
[2010-11-27/9B] ... That is, IFF you are open and unbiased to it, which I doubt you are.
One thing I do like to comment on: Satan is not “that angel who dared to be different” but someone that started with a lie, whispering into the ear of Eve, and never stopped lying eversince to make us humans believe the wrong things and distrusting one another (i.e. always believing the other person wants to trick us).
@DavidKoHannah I inspire a person to write a book about Me and the book states that I am the greatest guy who ever lived. Will u believe the book? Now 'God' inspired a person to write a book that states God is the greatest etc. Will u believe it?
JIM: does God exist? JOE: Yes JIM: Hw do u know? JOE:its written in the bible JIM: Who wrote/inspired the bible? JOE:God
This is called begging a question and its a logical fallacy because it entails the conclusion of the argument in its premise.
[2010-11-27/9C] ... God brought trust into this world, Satan brought distrust into this world. And I think God's mercy makes Satan as well as the evildoers of this world to be still alive. One day God will rule again, and Satan will be cast into the fire forever, as is depicted in Revelation 20:10 (see biblegateway com, e.g. New King James Version).
@DavidKoHannah Satan brought mistrust in the world and God brought Satan into this world. Really,its very simple. I have read the Bible and of course this God is different from others and this novelty has won him many a follower. If God created this world and most things are explained by reason/logic then i guess Bible too must be examined in the light of reason/logic and not pure faith. I do not hate God or any religion i just dont like the way it has become an overriding principle of life.
[2010-11-27/9D] ... BTW, did you ever read the Bible? And did you do it in an unbiased way? Because if not, you can't really judge this God, because He's completely different than all other religions claim God to be.
@DavidKoHannah and yeah can humans 'judge' God? why does He not shine forth like an unambiguous statement unto us all? Why all the riddles, parables, enticements etc. When i want to prove i am the best manufacturer in the world i make an item with NO FLAWS AT ALL. What i do not do is fabricate a sub-standard, error-prone item and then go around mystifying people with my riddles and parables as to what the secrets of my ability are and how not to doubt my manufacturing prowess.
" For that He seems even to tolerate the suffering of His children, starting with Jesus, and now also happening in the camps of North Korea. But at a certain point it is enough, and this world will see His rule. At the moment the world sees His mercy."
But still for years and years the poor North Korean people are getting tortured, killed an raped by their leaders. Is that God's purpose too? And don't bring me that crap of "in the end God has a better place for them"!
As a liberal Irishman , The reason i think that North Korea doesn't let outsiders near the North of the country is because of the rumoured concentration camps , with hundreds of thousands imprisoned there . If ever there was a pro arguement for regime change , this is it !
[2010-11-27/2A] Yeah, so true. But who's gonna force that regime change? Everyone's scared for the nuclear power of North Korea. So, the people in these gruesome camps are in fact the hostages for the safety of the rest of the world. Our dignity and feel for justice has diminished to the point that we let so many hundreds of thousands of innocent people starve, get mutilated, or worse in order for the 'civilized world' to keep safe.
[2010-11-27/1A] I think their coach might be. I thought I heard something like that. But I think Mr. Blatter from the world soccer association (FIFA) has protested against it. I'm not sure what the status is now.
I wish the Mr. Blatters of this world would protest more often and more firmly against the exploitation of so many innocent people in the concentration camps of North Korea. There are many many thousands of them suffering hard everyday - until their inevitable death!
welcome to the wonderful world of american propaganda or at least well-meant stupidity. North Korea is probably a very terrible place to live in and i'm far from defending anything that has to do with that country and "our dear leader". But this greasy song tearfully voiced about little crying babies with broken necks thrown into buckets... oh come on... don't fall for the propaganda. Not again. You do it over and over, america. Ever wonder why you dont have any friends in the world either?
[2010-10-16/a] Maybe it doesn't fit in your head, but it certainly is true that in North Korean camps women get forced abortions (e.g. by kicking the women in the belly or by medical interventions), and if the child would still come out alive it will be killed instantly in whatever brutal way. One of the very sufficient methods is twisting the baby's neck. Then the baby (or what's left of it) is thrown in a box to be dumped later. And this is not done once... [see part /b]
[2010-10-16/b] ... And this is not done once a year or so, but on a regular basis. It's also done with babies born from a North Korean woman and a Chinese father, because the North Korean regime wants to keep the North Korean race pure.
I'm not making this up myself. And it certainly isn't American propaganda. You can read about it in Soon Ok Lee's book 'Eyes of the Tailless Animals' (chapter 10) as well as in many places on the Internet. She has survived a brutal... [see part /c]
[2010-10-16/c] ... She has survived a brutal North Korean camp after having been imprisoned for 7 years.
And BTW, the song isn't tearfully voiced for nothing; they are my genuine tears, from the heart. If only you could hear the tearful voices of the people that have to be watching such a beastly performance.
So, the stupidity is not on my side, but on yours, and it matches well with your ignorance.
South Korea and Japan spent millions of dollars in anti-DPRK propaganda,for people to swallow that crap..what many do not know is that the videos are recorded in South Korea with the consent that of the Government.
@rodrigorojo1 You've probably been trained in the propaganda schools of North Korea. How else can you come up with such lies. You turn the world (and the truth) upside down, just like the regime in Pyongyang does - for their own gain - no matter the conscequences for the innocent people of North Korea that either are starving, or are placed in a camp where they will eventually die - looking all skin and bones.
Sounds like a south park song... when does cartman come in?
Anyways, refugees that flee north korea clearly flee for a reason, because their lives in the dprk sucked, as no doubt it does for a small minority of people in the country. North Korea does not deny this, in fact, the DPRK has stated that these defectors dont bother them, and that they are more then welcome to go to China, usually to get tied up as sex slaves there,
@nauselom This aside the fact remains that there is a majority of North Koreans that are content with their position.
Is the standard of living better in the USA or south korea? Perhaps... but there are 20 million+ North Koreans that are not aware of this, and frankly dont really give a shit. They are, in a sense, perfectly happy living in their bubble. What gives you or anyone else the right to disturb their lives, and burden them with these notions of change? Potentially violent notions...
[2010-08-26/E] You ask me what gives me the right to interfere with their way of life. Well, I think when a people is systematically starved, tortured and killed then I think any person in the whole wide world has the right (no, the obligation even) to speak up, and do something about it! So, what gives you the right NOT to interfere with these people? It's our obligation to them!
Ask the people that die on the streets or in the camps e-ve-ry day!! You won't hear them... (see part /F)
[2010-08-26/F] ... You won't hear them say that "maybe in the USA or in South Korea it's better but we're perfectly happy with the way we have to live our lives here". I think you'd better read about it more before you start accusing the ones that stand up for these people, the people that you apparently do not (wanna?) see. You think they like to be tied to a tree naked? Or be stoned to death for no crime at all? Just for thinking a little bit different from the regime! (see part /G)
[2010-08-26/G] ...Just for thinking a little bit different from the regime! Look at the video, man, and let it penetrate your heart. I'm not making this up. If you wanna see these holocaust-like atrocities, you can. Look on YouTube further, and you will find many horrible videos regarding North Korea. Look behind the nice facade that they want you to see, man. Throw in some effort before you start shouting. I believe with all my heart that when the people of North Kore... (see part /H)
[2010-08-26/H] ...I believe with all my heart that when the people of North Korea would get a free pass to another country then maybe only a couple of million on a population of more than 20 million would find it better to stay put. The rest wouldn't think for one minute. It would be an exodus. Start reading, man...
@DavidKoHannah Its not about belief and heart... there is no 'free pass' to mexicans entering the united states either, yet proportionately more people sneak across the US border from latin america, then those fleeing the dprk.
Could this mean that life is more miserable in Mexico?
Mind you, I understand where you're coming from. Tougher laws in the dprk discourage people from leaving. However if the conditions are as bad as you say, how effective would any threats from the dprk gov really be?
[2010-08-28/K] Conditions aren't as bad as 'I' say, but as bad as you can read about in various books from refugees that have seen it all with their own eyes, and felt it all on their own flesh. The drawing of a woman tied to a tree naked isn't something I made up, and it certainly isn't something that happens in Mexico. Well, it does happen in NK over and over again - according to the ones that KNOW because they've been there, and were forced to watch those scenes.
[2010-08-28/L] ... And we're not just talking of 'tougher laws' here, but of extreme and vicious laws. People emaciated and looking very skinny by constant malnourishment with a daily 18 hours of work, 7 days a week. And people executed for no crime at all; e.g. for being a christian leader, or simply a christian not willing to deny his faith. If the teacher at school works on your child... (see part /M)
[2010-08-28/M] ... If the teacher at school works on your child to let her know that you possess a bible in your house then the next day you and your whole family (your child included) will be taken to a horrible camp, and your house will be given to someone else.
[2010-08-28/N] The effectiveness of the regime comes from decades of poisoning the people of North Korea with fairy tales on the one hand (the myths around Kim Jong-il and his father Kim Il-sung), and executing brutal force on the other. One on every three North Koreans is a snitch for the regime. That means you just can't live a normal live; you have to play a role every minute of the day. I am told that now 60% of the North Koreans know about the outside world... (see part /O)
[2010-08-28/O] ...60% of the North Koreans know about the outside world (as previously they only knew what the state television and propaganda machinery made them believe), but there's still no organized resistance, for one because the normal citizens of Korea are really not a rebelling people, and also because they're just starting to get used to the idea of their country being an impoverished country instead of the paradise they were led to believe all those years. ... (see part /P)
[2010-08-28/P] ...were led to believe all those years. Furthermore they are a starving people, so that most people only have energy left to save their own skin, and to feed their own belly.
And if China would open up for these refugees then the exodus would start. At the moment, as I said earlier, China simply sends these people back to North Korea (at least a hundred every week!!) where they await a terrible 'punishment'... (see part /Q)
[2010-08-28/Q] ...they await a terrible 'punishment' (people who got in touch with christianity in China, or with South Koreans, risk of being executed immediately). China even groups these North Korean refugees together with metal wires pierced RIGHT THROUGH THEIR WRISTS!! This is no Mexico, this is North Korea (and China helping them). This is not about escaping a bad economy but about escaping death.
Just some figures to open your eyes a little more... (see part /R)
[2010-08-28/R] ... Just some figures to open your eyes a little more - if at all possible: 7 million people starving in 2009 (that's approx. one-third of the population), 1,000 people dying e-ve-ry day (regularly people just drop dead in the middle of the street), at least 250,000 are slowly dying in concentration camps as brutal as the Nazi camps; some say even more brutal.
If you start reading the refugees' books you will even get a better idea of the... (see part /S)
Plenty of women are tied to trees in Mexico. Between a horridly corrupt government and the drug wars going on right now.. not to mention their own share of poverty and starvation, more people want to leave Mexico then the DPRK.
Further.. giving credit to a book written by a 'refugee' because they lived there makes about as much sense as recommending mien kampf because hitler lived in germany.
There are often political and personal motives for writing books... (see pt 2)
I always loved how the first course of action people take when they get into trouble in north korea is to write a book.
Look at those 2 journalists that got arrest lisa ling and yuna lee is it? They are actually in the process of writing one of those 'books' on the dprk you're so fond of. Every day they go to star bucks and type what is set to be a new york times best seller. they'll make millions.
Some dose of reality isn't it? Theyre no better then the kims
Nice one! North Koreans are just 'not a rebelling people'. Don't you ever feel a bit bothered by the fact that you are conducting a struggle on BEHALF of the north korean people, with little to no support from the people that actually live there?
Who are you to make such wild speculations as to WHY there is no popular resistance in the country? Why are you so set on discarding the notion that perhaps north koreans are content, and/or they simply dont care?
[2010-09-01/4A] I'm not saying they wouldn't want to start rebelling now; now that they are beginning to see the vicious lies of the regime in all those 60 years. I'm saying they've always been a friendly and gentle people, who were not very eager to rebel against any authority. They always just believed what the authorities told them. They didn't think at first that these were gruesome fairy tales. Because they are a good people. So they ... [09-01/4B]
[2010-09-01/4B] ... Because they are a good people. So they couldn't believe that such viciousness could exist. In their most horrible nightmares they wouldn't have thought of this kind of satanic rulers. But now their eyes are slowly opening (because already 60% of the North Koreans know about the outside world now), and the moment might be due to come that they will rise up against this deceitful regime. ... [see 09-01/4C]
[2010-09-01/4C] ... It's not wild speculations that I make. I guess I know more about this people than you can imagine. And more than enough to make my heart cry for this people. And once you have read one of these refugee's books (e.g. the one by Soon Ok Lee) it will forever change your opinion about that country's rulers. Look at the drawings that ... [see 09-01/4D]
[2010-09-01/4D] ... Look at the drawings that these refugees make, man. They don't make these things up. And it's not just one or two refugees. Let your TRUST work instead of your DISTRUST.
Of course, there's a few million content with their lives in North Korea. The rest is not!
@nauselom (Responding on "Continuing from pt1. I always loved how...")
[2010-09-01/3A] There's a whole difference between books written by some journalists that approach NK from the outside, and the books by several refugees that give us the story of real-life experiences that they have seen with ther own eyes, and wished they had never witnessed that kind of gross brutalities. I can more or less agree with you on the books by these ... [see 09-01/3B]
@nauselom (Responding on "Continuing from pt1. I always loved how...")
[2010-09-01/3B] ... I can more or less agree with you on the books by these journalists (although they may have good intentions with it, I don't know; I'm not too interested in that), but we hopelessly disagree on the refugee books.
[2010-09-01/A] She's not just tied to a tree. She's tied to a tree NAKED, and with a cruel guard coming at her with a KNIFE (see The People's Paradise video, at 2:50). Guess what's going to happen... Why else would the refugee that made the drawing draw the guard coming at her with a knife? Becaue at one time he had witnessed such a scene with his own eyes, and there's no question what is going to happen there; i.e. the guard will 'work' on her with his knife. ... [see 09-01/B]
[2010-09-01/B] ... Also see the People's Paradise video at 3:20, and look at the shovel on the right that has been shoved down the woman's most private parts. Doesn't it make you wanna puke?
And it's not done by a criminal drugs cartel, but by the authorities in the so-called people's paradise, and they also have the nerve to call themselves democratic (as the D in DPRK stands for, as you well know). ... [see 09-01/C]
[2010-09-01/C] ... And BTW, I'm not saying that the Mexico problem is not serious enough. It's good that you care about it! But, I do not want to make it a contest between North Korea and Mexico. Why don't you decide to do something for poor Mexicans, while I focus on poor North Koreans. We can't be busy with too many problems, and still be effective in doing something about it. My heart and hands are more than full with the human rights atrocities of North Korea. ... [see 09-01/D]
[2010-09-01/D] ... Regarding your Hitler comparison: When you compare a normal human being that has fallen victim to a brutal regime (the woman writer of the book, who believed in the fairytale-lies of that regime first and then saw all those horrible things happening to the people in those camps) to someone like Adolf Hitler (who was a master in vicious propaganda schemes, poisoning the hearts and minds of the youth and all) then there's definitely... [see 09-01/E]
[2010-09-01/E] ... then there's definitely something wrong with your thinking. The refugees that write those books have seen it all with their own eyes. READ IT, and you will come to feel that their stories are not fairy tales.
And there are absolutely no political nor any other false motives for these refugees to write those books, I can assure you that. I've seen them tell their stories, and they couldn't help but cry, and you could see the deep sadness... [see 09-01/F]
You mean to tell me that people who were arrested and thrown in prison for years by a government have no political motives when they write their 'books'?
These refugees want to see the government of the DPRK destroyed. This is one fact I am sure we both agree on.
Bearing this in mind, we see their books are both stories.. true or false... AND weapons of a political nature.
How then am I in the wrong for comparing Hitlers weapons to theirs? Fundamentally they are the same.
Ultimately our disagreement on the refugees seems to be rooted in your refusal to believe that anything they write is untrue or exaggerated in any way.
I have ZERO doubt whatsoever, that these refugees lives in the DPRK were completely destroyed. Nor do I have any doubt that some of the consequences leveled may have been extreme.
What I do doubt however is that right now in the DPRK theres some korean ninja jamming a shovel into a pregnant womans belly for dissing kims tunic.
[2010-09-06/2A] Then I do believe we disagree. I think it's even worse than that. But that's just what I think after reading a lot of refugee stories coming out the last decade or so. If you want to find out the real truth for yourself you might ask the North Korean regime if you wil be allowed to travel through their country to investigate freely whether your thoughts are justifed or not. Don't you even wonder why the regime doesn't allow international observ... [see 09-06/2B]
[2010-09-06/2B] ... Don't you even wonder why the regime doesn't allow international observers when the international community has supplied food again? Or they do allow it a little bit, and then when the observers are gone they take away the food again from the people, and give it to their own elite people, or put it out on the market. You constantly try to question the good intentions of... [see 09-06/2C]
[2010-09-06/2C] ... You constantly try to question the good intentions of the people that have suffered. I never hear you question the good intentions of the regime that lets these people suffer.
[2010-09-06/A] Hitlers propaganda weapons were fairy tales. The stories of the people that were liberated from the Nazi-camps in 1945 were real. And so are the stories of these refugees. The ones that have 'seen it all' and maybe even 'felt it all on their own body' do not lie. The ones that are power-hungry do, because they have to hide something behind a facade. Hitler fooled the whole international community by... [see 09-06/B]
[2010-09-06/B] ... Hitler fooled the whole international community by getting the Olympic Games to Germany in 1936. The leadership of North Korea organizes the colourful Mass Games (Arirang Festival) every year to attract and distract people nationally and internationally. Can't you tell a horrorful lie from a horrorful truth?
[2010-09-01/F] ...and you could see the deep sadness in their eyes, as well as hurt and a feeling of helplessness for the people that are still in those camps.
[2010-08-28/S] ... If you start reading the refugees' books you will even get a better idea of the immense man-made disaster (man-made because it's by the rules of the current regime of Kim Jong-il, and his father Kim Il-sung before him - who was supported by Stalin, and we all know what a beast he was).
IFF you are interested at all in finding out about the truth behind the facade (or behind what the free world wants to see from a very large distance) then... (see part /T)
[2010-08-28/T] ... IFF you are interested at all in finding out about the truth behind the facade (or behind what the free world wants to see from a very large distance) then I suggest you start reading the book "Eyes of the Tailless Animals" by Soon Ok Lee, a woman who has been in a camp for about 7 years. You can find a list of books on my DavidKOHannah WordPress website, on the Get Informed page.
[2010-08-26/a] Don't know where you get your 'information' from, or what you WANNA believe, but it seems a lazy shot from the hip to state that only a small minority have a hard time in NK.
I know that a lot of people are escaping from North Korea into China e-ve-ry week, and about a hundred (and probably many more) are caught and returned to North Korea e-ve-ry week, where they get severely punished, locked up and tortured in horrible camps, or even get executed for... (see part /b)
[2010-08-26/b] ..., or even get executed for escaping the country.
I can tell you that if all North Koreans were allowed a free passage to flee from the country to e.g. South Korea then not many would stay!
And you probably think you're so witty to compare it with South Park and Cartman, but you should note that people are suffering hard every single day. If you are really interested in getting to know the real truth about North Korea then please try... (see part /c)
[2010-08-26/c] ... to know the real truth about North Korea then please try reading one of the refugees' books, e.g. the one by Soon Ok Lee, entitled 'The Eyes Of The Tailless Animals'. The fact that refugees make drawings like the pregnant woman that's tied to a tree, naked, and an officer coming at her with a sword (see video), speaks volumes to any person that has some decency left in his body. (see also my video Human Flesh Being Sold In The Market to see pictures... (see part /d)
[2010-08-26/d] ... to see pictures of skinny prisoners) But then, if you don't want to hear any wrong words about the North Korean regime then I guess you don't wanna trust these pictures or read any refugees' books, because it's probably all 'propaganda', isn't it.
Wake up, man. And do your homework first before you start making lazy remarks at the expense of the many people that suffer hard in the so-called Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).
I gave this video 4 stars, because of it depiction of the true and horrible things going on in kim jong ils korea. Its sad that korea has become a "forgotten" war. The world doesn't want dprk to fall, chinas talking about building a wall, sk already has one, nobody wants to pay for nk to recover, it's "all" about money. No 5th star however because I didn't appreciate you pushing your religion on me. If i wanted god, i'd have searched "god". Other than that, great video!
Hi fatherofmy5, many thanks for feeling sad for the poor people of North Korea, and having a big heart for them.
And although it's never been my intention to PUSH my religion unto anybody (because choosing for God has to be done in total FREE-DOM), please understand that this song is a cry to God/Jesus because the pain of knowing WHAT EXACTLY happens with my brothers and sisters in those camps every day is unbearable, and has changed my life for good.
This video is about the silent people in the camps, the ones that have learned from Jesus Christ how to turn the other cheek, and go the extra mile (the 'mile' that wasn't initially asked for). If you read Soon Ok Lee's book 'The Eyes of the Tailless Animals' (see Get Informed page on my website) you'll read that she (while not being a christian herself yet) observed christians to... (see PART f3)
- always take the blame for an alleged 'crime', for which they then got horribly beaten, or got solitary after which they were never to be seen again (while other people tried to deny their 'guilt', and tried to push it on somebody else, because they knew the punishment would be hard)
- never ever betray their God, or denounce the existence of heaven; they then said no word (as Jesus before Pilate), and oftentimes this would mean death for them (continued at PART f4)
(one story from Soon Ok Lee's book is about eight christian men that got 650 degrees boiling iron being poured over them because they had not responded to the sneering of one of the guards; these men just melted away before the eyes of other camp-prisoners standing by (among which was Soon Ok Lee herself).
The cruel guards in the camps were even promoted when they could get a christian to deny his/her God. (continued at PART f5)
I sincerely hope that you won't feel as if I push my religion on you by elaborating some more on this issue, but I wanted you to know where this song is coming from, because it wouldn't be fair to these 'silent people' if I kept that in the mist.
(If you might wanna talk to me in a private way then you can always find my emailaddress on my YouTube account page, or get in touch with me through my website.)
Christians are in no way innocent victims in history. Christians are guilty of MANY deaths and gained popularity by threatening people with an eternity in a lake of fire. You have to always be perfect to get into heaven, but you'll never be good enough to get into heaven. The christian religion is guilty of tyranny, oppression, brainwashing and destroying lives.
I hate dictators, ALL dictators! Real and fictitious.
Thanks for your open and honest comment about how you feel about (some?) christians.
I have written a full page in response to it, but I won't bother you with it here on YouTube. If you want you can find it on my website (see address on my YouTube channel page): Under Contact, and then Articles (002 - Flaws of Christianity?!).
- Some Christians calling themselves Christians are no true followers of Jesus at all (e.g. the crusaders, or the Roman Catholics that burnt people at the stake during the Dark Ages).
- Other followers of Jesus are maybe a bit lazy in following Jesus, so they take short-cuts, and preach from their annoyance that 'you go to hell when you don't do this and that immediately'.
- I'm truly sorry when you -or people you hold dear- have been the victim of these so-called Christians, or lazy or otherwise erring Christians (but this last group might learn from their mistake in the future).
- You don't have to be perfect or 'good enough' to go to heaven; God only wants us to admit it when we're wrong, learn how to forgive eachother, learn from our mistakes and honestly try better next time, ... (continues at PART f14)
...and trust that Jesus (God Himself) paid for our selfishness and mistakes, so as to get us a free pass into heaven when we die, as well as a free pass for living closely with God during our stay on earth.
- Some so-called or lazy Christians can be dictators, but God/Jesus is not! He's letting everyone free to make up their own mind (and you've got a lifetime for it), but at some point He will stand up for the ones that are being crushed (or hurt) by others. ... (cont at PART f15)
I'll be happy to do my part to wake the world up to the horrors of north korea, but I don't need/want help from a fairy tale god that science proves does not exist, i believe jesus existed, but was nothing more than a cult leader no different than charles manson or jim jones. Except more people died/die in jesus' name. Mansons followers claimed he performed miracles too, and I bet they'd have all been happy to write a "bible" of his exploits too. as for nk, let me know how I can help.
Okay, fatherofmy5, it's clear now that we don't believe in the same things, and I do want you to know that it hurts me rather a lot that you compare Jesus Christ to Charles Manson, but okay, we better set our differences apart for now, and try to help NK, as you suggested.
I want you to know that I don't wanna push you into something that's not close to your heart or doesn't do right to your abilities. I don't know what you're able to do, but I could give you some hints; ... (f22)
... you're, of course, free to do something completely different.
My hints would be:
a. You can find a list of websites of organizations dedicated to human rights for North Korea on my website (Get Informed page). You could decide to give and/or raise money for the work these organizations do (e.g. helping NK refugees stranded at the Sino-Korean border, and sometimes bring them to a safe haven, e.g. South Korea or the US).
b. You could help in demonstrations (there's a worldwide demonstration coming up on Feb 25 (already next Thursday), go to facebook, login and go to the group called 'support robert park', then go to Discussions tab, find post named 'Email Update from Unify Korea' created on Feb 3, there you will find details on demonstrations that are going to take place the coming months).
c. What I think most important at this moment is funding the people that regularly send big balloons with information, radio's, money, etc into NK from the SK border. They try to do it every week. An organization called 'Fighters for Free North Korea' is doing that; their site: ffnk net. But since their site is in Korean, best you can do is to contact Suzanne Scholte (nkfreedom org website, Get Involved page, the piece 'Support Balloon Launches into North Korea')
That's a lot of information to check out, thank you. I will be going through it. I can't even put into words how frustrated and appalled I am that so many people are suffering so kim jong il can live a life of luxury! I am thoroughly disgusted. I heard china is considering a wall for when kim dies to stop mass defections, I don't know how nk can be stopped when it seems as though the world doesn't want it fixed. Heart wrenching.
Thank you for your heart and your readiness for the poor people of NK!
Know how you feel. Please, find a way for yourself to help in some kind of way that fits you best (or is closest to your heart and your abilities). Don't be like the ones that yell at proponents of the NK regime on YouTube, even ridiculing Kim Jong-il (showing disrespect only makes things worse), and subsequently do nothing about it. But I kinda figured you're probably not that type, cause I can ... (next: f32)
[cause I can...] see that your heart can really cry for these poor people. And that's what should be our motivation: to free the people! And not: to see the regime hanged.
We've got to channel our frustration, appallingness, and disgust into something useful for these poor people.
ZofeluxDiforof, if you can watch my video and see the horrors depicted in there, and then come up with the comment as you did about fucking two girls then you must be the lowest and sickest character on earth!
If I were you I would drastically start to look for a big change in your life. Jesus Christ has spilled His precious blood for you too, but not if you keep having these gross thoughts.
For some proof see my reply to iwsab some 5 months ago. Search for the line 'the cartoons are not made by me, but by former NK prisoners and guards that have escaped from the camps.' In that same comment and following comments you'll find some proof of it all. And if it still does not satisfy you then start reading the books I have listed in the column to the right of the video (under 'more info'). I can recommend the book by Soon Ok Lee, who has been detained in a camp in NK for 7 years.
I do not need evidence for God's existence. If you look at the injustice in this world, you know there has to be a better world (called heaven), as well as a Creator (God/Jesus Christ) who in the end will judge all our crimes (that is, unless we better ourselves in this world, and speak out a big sorry from our heart).
Or do you believe that some people are just more lucky than others?
Stop being abusive, dongsoola. And I never said that Americans don't do anything wrong, and also in a war there's always soldiers that take advantage, or are oversexed or anything. But that doesn't mean the US or its government is all bad. In the case of NK the elite is systematically exploiting and rooting out the so-called hostile class of people, i.e. the ones that disagree with the unjust system called Juche.
Oh and I am sure officials from the other side like South Korea are going to be pretty objective too like when the US came up with the superdollar shit and the Swiss Federal Police disapproved there theory.
Melezzenawi1111, let me guess. You have been to Pyongyang and were told you are not permitted to take pictures of that stupid tall statue, and then not permitted to travel wherever and whenever you want. You have never been to the border region, or any other small town. You only have lived with the elites. Nice. You saw 4% of North Korea's population and society. You don't know anything about real North Korea.
I will go to North Korea when I can photograph any statue, say anything I want, visit any city and any house I want, and take with me out of North Korea any North Korean I want on vacation to my house, just like people can do from free countries.
The holocaust in North Korea continues, just not in Pyongyang.
FutureStudy since the korean war there has only been 16,000 defections and yes many times the defectors have been proven to lie. And during the Hee and Hwan eras in the ROK it would not be surprising.
execution in the us is done quite often and they execute children. SUre they might investigate but most of the time thye catch the wrong person or it takes years basically the system is messed up because either the lazy ass detectives plant somethig or crap I mean north korea's system is much better kill al criminals. And david any nation is good hearted as long as it is not israel or america
I don't mean to pick on you, but I honestly think you need re-education. I cannot believe you buy this crap about how the system in the US works. These things that you describe might happen occasionally since in every system there's always one or two bad guys who take advantage of their position.
In NK this is the other way around; there the system is the bad guys, and maybe one or two good people are trying to do good as far as the system allows it. You guys aren't even allowed free thinking, and get polluted all day with propaganda songs and speeches, as well as state-run TV propaganda.
There's noone that's entitled to express thoughts different from what you guys are supposed to think - like a country full of marionettes/robots programmed to bow for the 'great leader' and say all kinds of flattering words on his account, and once you're at home you will start thinking: 'Who the hell am I? A man (who can think for himself) or a monkey (who performs the tricks his master forces him to do) ?'.
In NK you just kill all the criminals, that's what you say; but I think they mess up the definition of the word 'criminal' with that of the word 'opponent', or 'someone whose face we don't like', or 'someone who doesn't think like us', etc.
More than a century ago the US also had a judicial system that condemned people too quickly...
...that condemned people too quickly for a crime they didn't do, and so there also have been people that were executed, where afterwards they found out that someone else had done it. So, they changed that already a long time ago, so that now the person has to really really be proven guilty before they decide to execute the person. And take it from me, this doesn't happen very often, as you seem to be thinking (or: seem to have been led to believe by the propaganda system in NK).
You say any nation except Israel and US is goodhearted. I'd say to deserve the label 'goodhearted' a nation should at least allow its citizens freedom of speech and freedom of thought (so that they can believe what they wanna believe). God gave us freedom; in some countries we have a dictator playing (a judging) God, but not as the real God ever intended or still intends to be.
In Israel and US people are as free as you can be in this imperfect world. In NK no-one is free!
At meleszenawi1111: Read also my earlier comments about guards getting a promotion when they force a christian prisoner give up his faith (see 'a camp-guard gets a big promotion when he succeeds in forcing a christian prisoner give up his/her faith.'),
and about a group of people melting away because a guard had ordered to cover them with boiling iron from the oven (see 'I also know of a true story of a group of people being covered with 650 degrees molten iron straight from the oven.').
These pictures are all fake. Have you ever been to the DPRK how do you know all of this amenesty which is been proven to be biased the defectors who we have found out many times that they lie and in realilty are criminals but want citizenship to defect and try to give there story a human side fuck that they are defectors shoot them all.
At meleszenawi1111: How do you know all this? The fact that you end your message with 'shoot them all' doesn't give me the feeling that you come from a loving goodhearted nation. Seems you guys distrust everybody in the whole wide world that doesn't think exactly like you.
You are hilarious meleszenawi. Do you know how many defectors there are? 20,000 so far. Do you know how many defectors are hiding in China? 10s of thousands. They are all lying huh? The SK authorities went to all 20,000 and convinced them to lie. You are the only one who is lying, only to yourself.
You've probably never thought about what happens to people when they die. People are not pawns in a game you play, xEVILxEMOKID. Try to imagine how it would feel if you were tortured or killed. I would hope there are people around you that want you to stay alive for another 40 years or so. I hope that for everybody in the world, and I hope that people better themselves rather than kill the ones that I don't like that much. (see PART 2)
what a great singer.. deep and profound, the lyric is so true about NT and the song related so well. Well don, bravo!
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kim !!waht you do naw in the hell ????
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lcsnuhvt1 3 weeks ago
the fonts use were horried u dont have to be so graphic.
pipaymataray 1 month ago
The worst part: some of the comments here....
radiumdude 1 month ago
the singer really has to work on the lyrics . . .
dkubick 1 month ago
I am ashamed to say I did'nt really know . This video goes to the heart . Maybe soon there will be a change . There and all over the world . Who knows ?
setransportation57 1 month ago
this guy singning again
america cause more problem in the world n korea - nothing compared to america and britain problems
judopathoftruth 1 month ago
Lol funny propaganda video
RedMusicSinging 1 month ago
You people dont eaven know how it is in north korea sovet union used to be a hell to but it whasnt....
skullrimer 1 month ago
lol fake videos.. great job. learn to do some research... good thing to know those south koreans are westernized like little clueless sheep and daddy america having a watchful eye.USA and japan destroyed your culture... oh well, guess it was shit anyways
maozebong100 1 month ago
fuck the communist.
shirsoltan1 1 month ago
1. Your voice is shit. Do you actually speak with the same needlessly nasal inflection?
2. Lyrics are shit. "Sticks, stones, bones, cones, scones, blown, etc." trite.
3. It appears you actually photoshopped bags of garbage onto an existing NK photograph to support your narrative. Tasteless.
4. Bob Dylan already happened, and that's plenty enough.
the music itself isn't all that bad.
checkthemdubs 2 months ago
american propaganda !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
elmo479 2 months ago
shit
elmo479 2 months ago
This is absolutely fantastic. It really does get the message across of the terrible need the people of the country faces. And the worst part is that it's PREVENTABLE and almost done on purpose.
Would you mind sending me the background music (without the voice) so I can use it in a mini-documentary I'm making on North Korea for class?
Zimnyification 2 months ago
juche tower is a rip off of the washington monument. Kim jong il is a sell out bitch, who loves american luxuries and exploits his people and country. North Korea makes me so sick.
a2r1v1i2s 4 months ago
God, for You everything is possible! We just pray, help all the suffering people of NK. Father, forgive the leaders and military of this nation, for they don't know what they do! God, heal this nation with Your love!
Pray, my friends! When the borders open, there's a gospel to preach there!
wasara85 5 months ago 3
@wasara85 amen
isaiah58s 3 months ago
@isaiah58s fuck religion !!!!!!!
elmo479 2 months ago
унылое гавно
RussoTuristo7 5 months ago
i hope communism collapes in nk an they need to have a good prime minister or president to take control and bind nk and sk together
imtomodly1234 7 months ago
Whats the name of this music
theslaking2 11 months ago
@theslaking2
sounds like a drunk man singing.
inachu 5 months ago
If N. Korea was such a workers paradise there would be no people who risk their life to escape it and live in constant fear when they reach China because Chinese CCP sends them back. If N. Korea was such a good country it would let the media in and let them travel around freely. N. Korea has a lot to hide and any vid on here about a reasonable filled supermarket is propaganda. Only the very rich and very few favorited by the regime can go to such a store and the main city is just a showcase.
arafel1964 1 year ago
I don't know what the political situation may be, today, between North Korea and China, but I have a strong hunch that it may bear some relevance in regards to the continued existence of the political regime of the latter. Maybe it's only a hunch, and maybe not.
Gimmal1492 1 year ago
I don't know what the political relation may be, today, between China and North Korea, but I have a hunch that it may bear some relevance in regards to the continued existence of the latter. Maybe it's only a hunch, maybe not.
Gimmal1492 1 year ago
North Korea has to be neutralised as soon as possible
tomreves28 1 year ago
kim is a monkey
robertelee09 1 year ago 2
@robertelee09
[2010-11-27/5A] Cursing and name-calling is a little childish, even more so when it's done long-distance. And it never solves anything, it only fuels up the anger. It shows disrespect. Instead we should try to love our enemies, albeit that their deeds are to be condemned.
You'd better use your energy for compassion with the victims and to see what you can do for them instead of being angry with the perpetrators. Our goal should not be... [see 11-27/5B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@robertelee09
[2010-11-27/5B] ... Our goal should not be to get Kim Jong-il or his regime behind bars, but to get the victims of his regime out of their horrible situation (concentration camps, starvation, extreme hard labor, guinea-pigs for testing chemical and biological weapons, etc).
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago 2
@DavidKoHannah Very true. I feel that sometimes even Kim's might want to end this crazy game, but they are too afraid of aftermath. They see no option of continuing, knowing that their days are numbered. I'm sure at times, Kim gets tortured at night of fear. We've seen last days of so many dictators. I think he can't stop. He has no choice in his mind.
chosop25 1 year ago
@DavidKohannah
With all respect, David, If you believe in God, then it's your God who's responsable for all the suffering in North Korea.
atahualpa123456 1 year ago
@atahualpa123456
[2010-11-27/3A] Sorry for the late response, atahualpa. I've been a bit busy lately.
Please, let me tell you something about my God. My God's Son Jesus Christ died for us on the cross (and rose again after three days), and tells us to love even our enemies.
My God has a beautiful place in store for everyone who really wants it (see John 3 verse 14 upto 21 in the Bible, see biblegateway com, e.g. New King James Version). Even the vicious rulers of... [see 11-27/3B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@atahualpa123456
[2010-11-27/3B] ... Even the vicious rulers of this world can get forgiveness with my God if they finally see their mistakes and admit they are wrong. So, my God is waiting for these rulers, and other people, to repent and acknowledge God and His Love, so that they won't end up in hell. For that He seems even to tolerate the suffering of His children, starting with Jesus, and now also happening in the camps of North Korea. But at a certain point it... [see 11-27/3C]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@atahualpa123456
[2010-11-27/3C] ... But at a certain point it is enough, and this world will see His rule. At the moment the world sees His mercy.
But of course, God doesn't want cruelty to exist, and He would want it to end soon. It's just that He doesn't want to use brute force for it, at least not too soon. He once wiped out almost all of mankind with a big flood, but after that He made us a promise to never do such a thing again.
Well, that's as far as I can... [see 11-27/3D]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@atahualpa123456
[2010-11-27/3D] ... Well, that's as far as I can understand it. I'm not saying I fully grasp it all of the times. I'm just human. He's much bigger than me, has higher thoughts than you or me. After all, He created the universe, and time, and all that. Sometimes I would like to scream with the martyrs in the book of Revelation (see Rev. 6:10): "How long until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" (see biblegateway com, New King... [see 11-27/3E]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@atahualpa123456
[2010-11-27/3E] ... (see biblegateway com, New King James Version). But mostly that doesn't last long, because I just know that God is the most divine and sensitive being we could ever imagine. And that we must admit that our brains are too small to fully grasp His thoughts.
BTW, to answer your statement... [see 11-27/3F]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@atahualpa123456
[2010-11-27/3F] ... BTW, to answer your statement about responsibility: Only God knows the ones responsible for the suffering in North Korea, because it might all be so secretly done, but I guess the elite of North Korea has some share in it. But then only God can see what's been going on in the minds and hearts of people that made them commit a certain vicious deed, and so... [see 11-27/3G]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@atahualpa123456
[2010-11-27/3G] ... commit a certain vicious deed, and so He's the only One who can judge them. And the main evildoer is Satan who keeps us busy with one lie after another in the minds of so many; facilitating hatred, and war, etc. God on the other hand tries to influence our minds and hearts with loving, peaceful, and forgiving thoughts.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah yeah! i knew it! Satan! oh yeah....that angel who dared to be different. Who somehow had a little opinion of his own which was of course later squashed under the big boots of Mr. God...this God demands total obedience...so dont you think its God's fault that there IS a Satan in the first place? since he is omniscient ,God wud have known about Satan's rebellion beforehand...why did he make an angel with flaws? does this mean that sometimes God errs too? why is he so jealous?
tarnicles 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah How does Satan act against God if God is all-powerful? Why the entire sham of 'sin' and 'temptation'? why not wipe out Satan in one fell sweep? If , within a work environment,you allow a defective piece of machinery(Satan) to continuously militate another piece of machinery which you know is prone to errors(Man) im sorry to say youre not a very good manufacturer or manager. And these are mundane, human standards... why leave it on the machine to develop a resistance of its own?
tarnicles 1 year ago
[2010-11-27/9A] I don't have much time for this, and it goes beyond the purpose of this site to make a full study of God/Jesus with you, since you apparently have so much to learn on this matter. I suggest you start reading the Bible, and/or ask some local christians (or 'God/Jesus sites') to explain all these things to you, or look elsewhere for my comments on my two video pages, because I already dealt with a lot of 'God questions' in these pages. That is, IFF you are... [see 11-27/9B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@tarnicles
[2010-11-27/9B] ... That is, IFF you are open and unbiased to it, which I doubt you are.
One thing I do like to comment on: Satan is not “that angel who dared to be different” but someone that started with a lie, whispering into the ear of Eve, and never stopped lying eversince to make us humans believe the wrong things and distrusting one another (i.e. always believing the other person wants to trick us).
God brought trust into... [see 11-27/9C]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah I inspire a person to write a book about Me and the book states that I am the greatest guy who ever lived. Will u believe the book? Now 'God' inspired a person to write a book that states God is the greatest etc. Will u believe it?
JIM: does God exist? JOE: Yes JIM: Hw do u know? JOE:its written in the bible JIM: Who wrote/inspired the bible? JOE:God
This is called begging a question and its a logical fallacy because it entails the conclusion of the argument in its premise.
tarnicles 1 year ago
@tarnicles
[2010-11-27/9C] ... God brought trust into this world, Satan brought distrust into this world. And I think God's mercy makes Satan as well as the evildoers of this world to be still alive. One day God will rule again, and Satan will be cast into the fire forever, as is depicted in Revelation 20:10 (see biblegateway com, e.g. New King James Version).
BTW, did you ever read... [see 11-27/9D]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah Satan brought mistrust in the world and God brought Satan into this world. Really,its very simple. I have read the Bible and of course this God is different from others and this novelty has won him many a follower. If God created this world and most things are explained by reason/logic then i guess Bible too must be examined in the light of reason/logic and not pure faith. I do not hate God or any religion i just dont like the way it has become an overriding principle of life.
tarnicles 1 year ago
@tarnicles
[2010-11-27/9D] ... BTW, did you ever read the Bible? And did you do it in an unbiased way? Because if not, you can't really judge this God, because He's completely different than all other religions claim God to be.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah and yeah can humans 'judge' God? why does He not shine forth like an unambiguous statement unto us all? Why all the riddles, parables, enticements etc. When i want to prove i am the best manufacturer in the world i make an item with NO FLAWS AT ALL. What i do not do is fabricate a sub-standard, error-prone item and then go around mystifying people with my riddles and parables as to what the secrets of my ability are and how not to doubt my manufacturing prowess.
tarnicles 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah
" For that He seems even to tolerate the suffering of His children, starting with Jesus, and now also happening in the camps of North Korea. But at a certain point it is enough, and this world will see His rule. At the moment the world sees His mercy."
But still for years and years the poor North Korean people are getting tortured, killed an raped by their leaders. Is that God's purpose too? And don't bring me that crap of "in the end God has a better place for them"!
atahualpa123456 1 year ago
As a liberal Irishman , The reason i think that North Korea doesn't let outsiders near the North of the country is because of the rumoured concentration camps , with hundreds of thousands imprisoned there . If ever there was a pro arguement for regime change , this is it !
jmeagher1 1 year ago
@jmeagher1
[2010-11-27/2A] Yeah, so true. But who's gonna force that regime change? Everyone's scared for the nuclear power of North Korea. So, the people in these gruesome camps are in fact the hostages for the safety of the rest of the world. Our dignity and feel for justice has diminished to the point that we let so many hundreds of thousands of innocent people starve, get mutilated, or worse in order for the 'civilized world' to keep safe.
BTW, the camps are spread all over the country.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
I wonder what is happening to the north korean soccer team that failed in the world cup i hope there not in the prison camps :(
saigotakahashi 1 year ago
@saigotakahashi
[2010-11-27/1A] I think their coach might be. I thought I heard something like that. But I think Mr. Blatter from the world soccer association (FIFA) has protested against it. I'm not sure what the status is now.
I wish the Mr. Blatters of this world would protest more often and more firmly against the exploitation of so many innocent people in the concentration camps of North Korea. There are many many thousands of them suffering hard everyday - until their inevitable death!
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
welcome to the wonderful world of american propaganda or at least well-meant stupidity. North Korea is probably a very terrible place to live in and i'm far from defending anything that has to do with that country and "our dear leader". But this greasy song tearfully voiced about little crying babies with broken necks thrown into buckets... oh come on... don't fall for the propaganda. Not again. You do it over and over, america. Ever wonder why you dont have any friends in the world either?
Bergtroll68 1 year ago
@Bergtroll68
[2010-10-16/a] Maybe it doesn't fit in your head, but it certainly is true that in North Korean camps women get forced abortions (e.g. by kicking the women in the belly or by medical interventions), and if the child would still come out alive it will be killed instantly in whatever brutal way. One of the very sufficient methods is twisting the baby's neck. Then the baby (or what's left of it) is thrown in a box to be dumped later. And this is not done once... [see part /b]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@Bergtroll68
[2010-10-16/b] ... And this is not done once a year or so, but on a regular basis. It's also done with babies born from a North Korean woman and a Chinese father, because the North Korean regime wants to keep the North Korean race pure.
I'm not making this up myself. And it certainly isn't American propaganda. You can read about it in Soon Ok Lee's book 'Eyes of the Tailless Animals' (chapter 10) as well as in many places on the Internet. She has survived a brutal... [see part /c]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago 2
@Bergtroll68
[2010-10-16/c] ... She has survived a brutal North Korean camp after having been imprisoned for 7 years.
And BTW, the song isn't tearfully voiced for nothing; they are my genuine tears, from the heart. If only you could hear the tearful voices of the people that have to be watching such a beastly performance.
So, the stupidity is not on my side, but on yours, and it matches well with your ignorance.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago 8
South Korea and Japan spent millions of dollars in anti-DPRK propaganda,for people to swallow that crap..what many do not know is that the videos are recorded in South Korea with the consent that of the Government.
rodrigorojo1 1 year ago
@rodrigorojo1 You've probably been trained in the propaganda schools of North Korea. How else can you come up with such lies. You turn the world (and the truth) upside down, just like the regime in Pyongyang does - for their own gain - no matter the conscequences for the innocent people of North Korea that either are starving, or are placed in a camp where they will eventually die - looking all skin and bones.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
Sounds like a south park song... when does cartman come in?
Anyways, refugees that flee north korea clearly flee for a reason, because their lives in the dprk sucked, as no doubt it does for a small minority of people in the country. North Korea does not deny this, in fact, the DPRK has stated that these defectors dont bother them, and that they are more then welcome to go to China, usually to get tied up as sex slaves there,
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom This aside the fact remains that there is a majority of North Koreans that are content with their position.
Is the standard of living better in the USA or south korea? Perhaps... but there are 20 million+ North Koreans that are not aware of this, and frankly dont really give a shit. They are, in a sense, perfectly happy living in their bubble. What gives you or anyone else the right to disturb their lives, and burden them with these notions of change? Potentially violent notions...
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/E] You ask me what gives me the right to interfere with their way of life. Well, I think when a people is systematically starved, tortured and killed then I think any person in the whole wide world has the right (no, the obligation even) to speak up, and do something about it! So, what gives you the right NOT to interfere with these people? It's our obligation to them!
Ask the people that die on the streets or in the camps e-ve-ry day!! You won't hear them... (see part /F)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/F] ... You won't hear them say that "maybe in the USA or in South Korea it's better but we're perfectly happy with the way we have to live our lives here". I think you'd better read about it more before you start accusing the ones that stand up for these people, the people that you apparently do not (wanna?) see. You think they like to be tied to a tree naked? Or be stoned to death for no crime at all? Just for thinking a little bit different from the regime! (see part /G)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/G] ...Just for thinking a little bit different from the regime! Look at the video, man, and let it penetrate your heart. I'm not making this up. If you wanna see these holocaust-like atrocities, you can. Look on YouTube further, and you will find many horrible videos regarding North Korea. Look behind the nice facade that they want you to see, man. Throw in some effort before you start shouting. I believe with all my heart that when the people of North Kore... (see part /H)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/H] ...I believe with all my heart that when the people of North Korea would get a free pass to another country then maybe only a couple of million on a population of more than 20 million would find it better to stay put. The rest wouldn't think for one minute. It would be an exodus. Start reading, man...
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah Its not about belief and heart... there is no 'free pass' to mexicans entering the united states either, yet proportionately more people sneak across the US border from latin america, then those fleeing the dprk.
Could this mean that life is more miserable in Mexico?
Mind you, I understand where you're coming from. Tougher laws in the dprk discourage people from leaving. However if the conditions are as bad as you say, how effective would any threats from the dprk gov really be?
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/K] Conditions aren't as bad as 'I' say, but as bad as you can read about in various books from refugees that have seen it all with their own eyes, and felt it all on their own flesh. The drawing of a woman tied to a tree naked isn't something I made up, and it certainly isn't something that happens in Mexico. Well, it does happen in NK over and over again - according to the ones that KNOW because they've been there, and were forced to watch those scenes.
(see part /L)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/L] ... And we're not just talking of 'tougher laws' here, but of extreme and vicious laws. People emaciated and looking very skinny by constant malnourishment with a daily 18 hours of work, 7 days a week. And people executed for no crime at all; e.g. for being a christian leader, or simply a christian not willing to deny his faith. If the teacher at school works on your child... (see part /M)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/M] ... If the teacher at school works on your child to let her know that you possess a bible in your house then the next day you and your whole family (your child included) will be taken to a horrible camp, and your house will be given to someone else.
(see part /N)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/N] The effectiveness of the regime comes from decades of poisoning the people of North Korea with fairy tales on the one hand (the myths around Kim Jong-il and his father Kim Il-sung), and executing brutal force on the other. One on every three North Koreans is a snitch for the regime. That means you just can't live a normal live; you have to play a role every minute of the day. I am told that now 60% of the North Koreans know about the outside world... (see part /O)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/O] ...60% of the North Koreans know about the outside world (as previously they only knew what the state television and propaganda machinery made them believe), but there's still no organized resistance, for one because the normal citizens of Korea are really not a rebelling people, and also because they're just starting to get used to the idea of their country being an impoverished country instead of the paradise they were led to believe all those years. ... (see part /P)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/P] ...were led to believe all those years. Furthermore they are a starving people, so that most people only have energy left to save their own skin, and to feed their own belly.
And if China would open up for these refugees then the exodus would start. At the moment, as I said earlier, China simply sends these people back to North Korea (at least a hundred every week!!) where they await a terrible 'punishment'... (see part /Q)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/Q] ...they await a terrible 'punishment' (people who got in touch with christianity in China, or with South Koreans, risk of being executed immediately). China even groups these North Korean refugees together with metal wires pierced RIGHT THROUGH THEIR WRISTS!! This is no Mexico, this is North Korea (and China helping them). This is not about escaping a bad economy but about escaping death.
Just some figures to open your eyes a little more... (see part /R)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/R] ... Just some figures to open your eyes a little more - if at all possible: 7 million people starving in 2009 (that's approx. one-third of the population), 1,000 people dying e-ve-ry day (regularly people just drop dead in the middle of the street), at least 250,000 are slowly dying in concentration camps as brutal as the Nazi camps; some say even more brutal.
If you start reading the refugees' books you will even get a better idea of the... (see part /S)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah
Plenty of women are tied to trees in Mexico. Between a horridly corrupt government and the drug wars going on right now.. not to mention their own share of poverty and starvation, more people want to leave Mexico then the DPRK.
Further.. giving credit to a book written by a 'refugee' because they lived there makes about as much sense as recommending mien kampf because hitler lived in germany.
There are often political and personal motives for writing books... (see pt 2)
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom Continuing from pt1.
I always loved how the first course of action people take when they get into trouble in north korea is to write a book.
Look at those 2 journalists that got arrest lisa ling and yuna lee is it? They are actually in the process of writing one of those 'books' on the dprk you're so fond of. Every day they go to star bucks and type what is set to be a new york times best seller. they'll make millions.
Some dose of reality isn't it? Theyre no better then the kims
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom
P.S.
Nice one! North Koreans are just 'not a rebelling people'. Don't you ever feel a bit bothered by the fact that you are conducting a struggle on BEHALF of the north korean people, with little to no support from the people that actually live there?
Who are you to make such wild speculations as to WHY there is no popular resistance in the country? Why are you so set on discarding the notion that perhaps north koreans are content, and/or they simply dont care?
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom (Responding on your P.S.)
[2010-09-01/4A] I'm not saying they wouldn't want to start rebelling now; now that they are beginning to see the vicious lies of the regime in all those 60 years. I'm saying they've always been a friendly and gentle people, who were not very eager to rebel against any authority. They always just believed what the authorities told them. They didn't think at first that these were gruesome fairy tales. Because they are a good people. So they ... [09-01/4B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom (Responding on your P.S.)
[2010-09-01/4B] ... Because they are a good people. So they couldn't believe that such viciousness could exist. In their most horrible nightmares they wouldn't have thought of this kind of satanic rulers. But now their eyes are slowly opening (because already 60% of the North Koreans know about the outside world now), and the moment might be due to come that they will rise up against this deceitful regime. ... [see 09-01/4C]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom (Responding on your P.S.)
[2010-09-01/4C] ... It's not wild speculations that I make. I guess I know more about this people than you can imagine. And more than enough to make my heart cry for this people. And once you have read one of these refugee's books (e.g. the one by Soon Ok Lee) it will forever change your opinion about that country's rulers. Look at the drawings that ... [see 09-01/4D]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom (Responding on your P.S.)
[2010-09-01/4D] ... Look at the drawings that these refugees make, man. They don't make these things up. And it's not just one or two refugees. Let your TRUST work instead of your DISTRUST.
Of course, there's a few million content with their lives in North Korea. The rest is not!
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom (Responding on "Continuing from pt1. I always loved how...")
[2010-09-01/3A] There's a whole difference between books written by some journalists that approach NK from the outside, and the books by several refugees that give us the story of real-life experiences that they have seen with ther own eyes, and wished they had never witnessed that kind of gross brutalities. I can more or less agree with you on the books by these ... [see 09-01/3B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom (Responding on "Continuing from pt1. I always loved how...")
[2010-09-01/3B] ... I can more or less agree with you on the books by these journalists (although they may have good intentions with it, I don't know; I'm not too interested in that), but we hopelessly disagree on the refugee books.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-01/A] She's not just tied to a tree. She's tied to a tree NAKED, and with a cruel guard coming at her with a KNIFE (see The People's Paradise video, at 2:50). Guess what's going to happen... Why else would the refugee that made the drawing draw the guard coming at her with a knife? Becaue at one time he had witnessed such a scene with his own eyes, and there's no question what is going to happen there; i.e. the guard will 'work' on her with his knife. ... [see 09-01/B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-01/B] ... Also see the People's Paradise video at 3:20, and look at the shovel on the right that has been shoved down the woman's most private parts. Doesn't it make you wanna puke?
And it's not done by a criminal drugs cartel, but by the authorities in the so-called people's paradise, and they also have the nerve to call themselves democratic (as the D in DPRK stands for, as you well know). ... [see 09-01/C]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-01/C] ... And BTW, I'm not saying that the Mexico problem is not serious enough. It's good that you care about it! But, I do not want to make it a contest between North Korea and Mexico. Why don't you decide to do something for poor Mexicans, while I focus on poor North Koreans. We can't be busy with too many problems, and still be effective in doing something about it. My heart and hands are more than full with the human rights atrocities of North Korea. ... [see 09-01/D]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-01/D] ... Regarding your Hitler comparison: When you compare a normal human being that has fallen victim to a brutal regime (the woman writer of the book, who believed in the fairytale-lies of that regime first and then saw all those horrible things happening to the people in those camps) to someone like Adolf Hitler (who was a master in vicious propaganda schemes, poisoning the hearts and minds of the youth and all) then there's definitely... [see 09-01/E]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-01/E] ... then there's definitely something wrong with your thinking. The refugees that write those books have seen it all with their own eyes. READ IT, and you will come to feel that their stories are not fairy tales.
And there are absolutely no political nor any other false motives for these refugees to write those books, I can assure you that. I've seen them tell their stories, and they couldn't help but cry, and you could see the deep sadness... [see 09-01/F]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@DavidKoHannah
You mean to tell me that people who were arrested and thrown in prison for years by a government have no political motives when they write their 'books'?
These refugees want to see the government of the DPRK destroyed. This is one fact I am sure we both agree on.
Bearing this in mind, we see their books are both stories.. true or false... AND weapons of a political nature.
How then am I in the wrong for comparing Hitlers weapons to theirs? Fundamentally they are the same.
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom Pt 2.
Ultimately our disagreement on the refugees seems to be rooted in your refusal to believe that anything they write is untrue or exaggerated in any way.
I have ZERO doubt whatsoever, that these refugees lives in the DPRK were completely destroyed. Nor do I have any doubt that some of the consequences leveled may have been extreme.
What I do doubt however is that right now in the DPRK theres some korean ninja jamming a shovel into a pregnant womans belly for dissing kims tunic.
nauselom 1 year ago
@nauselom's Pt 2.
[2010-09-06/2A] Then I do believe we disagree. I think it's even worse than that. But that's just what I think after reading a lot of refugee stories coming out the last decade or so. If you want to find out the real truth for yourself you might ask the North Korean regime if you wil be allowed to travel through their country to investigate freely whether your thoughts are justifed or not. Don't you even wonder why the regime doesn't allow international observ... [see 09-06/2B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom's Pt 2.
[2010-09-06/2B] ... Don't you even wonder why the regime doesn't allow international observers when the international community has supplied food again? Or they do allow it a little bit, and then when the observers are gone they take away the food again from the people, and give it to their own elite people, or put it out on the market. You constantly try to question the good intentions of... [see 09-06/2C]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom's Pt 2.
[2010-09-06/2C] ... You constantly try to question the good intentions of the people that have suffered. I never hear you question the good intentions of the regime that lets these people suffer.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-06/A] Hitlers propaganda weapons were fairy tales. The stories of the people that were liberated from the Nazi-camps in 1945 were real. And so are the stories of these refugees. The ones that have 'seen it all' and maybe even 'felt it all on their own body' do not lie. The ones that are power-hungry do, because they have to hide something behind a facade. Hitler fooled the whole international community by... [see 09-06/B]
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-06/B] ... Hitler fooled the whole international community by getting the Olympic Games to Germany in 1936. The leadership of North Korea organizes the colourful Mass Games (Arirang Festival) every year to attract and distract people nationally and internationally. Can't you tell a horrorful lie from a horrorful truth?
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-09-01/F] ...and you could see the deep sadness in their eyes, as well as hurt and a feeling of helplessness for the people that are still in those camps.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/S] ... If you start reading the refugees' books you will even get a better idea of the immense man-made disaster (man-made because it's by the rules of the current regime of Kim Jong-il, and his father Kim Il-sung before him - who was supported by Stalin, and we all know what a beast he was).
IFF you are interested at all in finding out about the truth behind the facade (or behind what the free world wants to see from a very large distance) then... (see part /T)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-28/T] ... IFF you are interested at all in finding out about the truth behind the facade (or behind what the free world wants to see from a very large distance) then I suggest you start reading the book "Eyes of the Tailless Animals" by Soon Ok Lee, a woman who has been in a camp for about 7 years. You can find a list of books on my DavidKOHannah WordPress website, on the Get Informed page.
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DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/a] Don't know where you get your 'information' from, or what you WANNA believe, but it seems a lazy shot from the hip to state that only a small minority have a hard time in NK.
I know that a lot of people are escaping from North Korea into China e-ve-ry week, and about a hundred (and probably many more) are caught and returned to North Korea e-ve-ry week, where they get severely punished, locked up and tortured in horrible camps, or even get executed for... (see part /b)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/b] ..., or even get executed for escaping the country.
I can tell you that if all North Koreans were allowed a free passage to flee from the country to e.g. South Korea then not many would stay!
And you probably think you're so witty to compare it with South Park and Cartman, but you should note that people are suffering hard every single day. If you are really interested in getting to know the real truth about North Korea then please try... (see part /c)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/c] ... to know the real truth about North Korea then please try reading one of the refugees' books, e.g. the one by Soon Ok Lee, entitled 'The Eyes Of The Tailless Animals'. The fact that refugees make drawings like the pregnant woman that's tied to a tree, naked, and an officer coming at her with a sword (see video), speaks volumes to any person that has some decency left in his body. (see also my video Human Flesh Being Sold In The Market to see pictures... (see part /d)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
@nauselom
[2010-08-26/d] ... to see pictures of skinny prisoners) But then, if you don't want to hear any wrong words about the North Korean regime then I guess you don't wanna trust these pictures or read any refugees' books, because it's probably all 'propaganda', isn't it.
Wake up, man. And do your homework first before you start making lazy remarks at the expense of the many people that suffer hard in the so-called Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
are you a North Korean ?
you can not die without a fight
and God only saves the ones who save themselves
so, where ever you are , speak up, and let Kim Joing Il know, that we are not afraid of him !
Kim Jong Il, your days are numbered, cause you have murdered too many lives
the judgement is near !
trafalgarstreet 1 year ago
@trafalgarstreet fuck you and your God, and them who made this propaganda
euroalbanian88 1 year ago
Yes is Kim KiLand
Welcome to greatest country of the world
under Kim Jong Il management,where
everithing is possible.
Sorry nothing possible actually.They cant phone,cant cars,cant TV,cant go to city when old and pregnant,cant pets.
Cant looks sad.Mostly under the warning
of death sentence.Welcome to Kimkiland
MrAgainstWar 1 year ago
I gave this video 4 stars, because of it depiction of the true and horrible things going on in kim jong ils korea. Its sad that korea has become a "forgotten" war. The world doesn't want dprk to fall, chinas talking about building a wall, sk already has one, nobody wants to pay for nk to recover, it's "all" about money. No 5th star however because I didn't appreciate you pushing your religion on me. If i wanted god, i'd have searched "god". Other than that, great video!
fatherofmy5 1 year ago
- PART f1 -
Hi fatherofmy5, many thanks for feeling sad for the poor people of North Korea, and having a big heart for them.
And although it's never been my intention to PUSH my religion unto anybody (because choosing for God has to be done in total FREE-DOM), please understand that this song is a cry to God/Jesus because the pain of knowing WHAT EXACTLY happens with my brothers and sisters in those camps every day is unbearable, and has changed my life for good.
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f2 -
This video is about the silent people in the camps, the ones that have learned from Jesus Christ how to turn the other cheek, and go the extra mile (the 'mile' that wasn't initially asked for). If you read Soon Ok Lee's book 'The Eyes of the Tailless Animals' (see Get Informed page on my website) you'll read that she (while not being a christian herself yet) observed christians to... (see PART f3)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f3 -
- always take the blame for an alleged 'crime', for which they then got horribly beaten, or got solitary after which they were never to be seen again (while other people tried to deny their 'guilt', and tried to push it on somebody else, because they knew the punishment would be hard)
- never ever betray their God, or denounce the existence of heaven; they then said no word (as Jesus before Pilate), and oftentimes this would mean death for them (continued at PART f4)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f4 -
(one story from Soon Ok Lee's book is about eight christian men that got 650 degrees boiling iron being poured over them because they had not responded to the sneering of one of the guards; these men just melted away before the eyes of other camp-prisoners standing by (among which was Soon Ok Lee herself).
The cruel guards in the camps were even promoted when they could get a christian to deny his/her God. (continued at PART f5)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f5 -
This means the guards did ALL they could to get a christians to deny their God.
(Note that these things are still happening to this day!)
(continued at PART f6)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f6 -
I sincerely hope that you won't feel as if I push my religion on you by elaborating some more on this issue, but I wanted you to know where this song is coming from, because it wouldn't be fair to these 'silent people' if I kept that in the mist.
(If you might wanna talk to me in a private way then you can always find my emailaddress on my YouTube account page, or get in touch with me through my website.)
Blessings!
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
Christians are in no way innocent victims in history. Christians are guilty of MANY deaths and gained popularity by threatening people with an eternity in a lake of fire. You have to always be perfect to get into heaven, but you'll never be good enough to get into heaven. The christian religion is guilty of tyranny, oppression, brainwashing and destroying lives.
I hate dictators, ALL dictators! Real and fictitious.
fatherofmy5 1 year ago
- PART f11 -
Thanks for your open and honest comment about how you feel about (some?) christians.
I have written a full page in response to it, but I won't bother you with it here on YouTube. If you want you can find it on my website (see address on my YouTube channel page): Under Contact, and then Articles (002 - Flaws of Christianity?!).
(continue at PART f12)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f12 -
It more or less comes down to:
- Some Christians calling themselves Christians are no true followers of Jesus at all (e.g. the crusaders, or the Roman Catholics that burnt people at the stake during the Dark Ages).
- Other followers of Jesus are maybe a bit lazy in following Jesus, so they take short-cuts, and preach from their annoyance that 'you go to hell when you don't do this and that immediately'.
(continues at PART f13)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f13 -
- I'm truly sorry when you -or people you hold dear- have been the victim of these so-called Christians, or lazy or otherwise erring Christians (but this last group might learn from their mistake in the future).
- You don't have to be perfect or 'good enough' to go to heaven; God only wants us to admit it when we're wrong, learn how to forgive eachother, learn from our mistakes and honestly try better next time, ... (continues at PART f14)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f14 -
...and trust that Jesus (God Himself) paid for our selfishness and mistakes, so as to get us a free pass into heaven when we die, as well as a free pass for living closely with God during our stay on earth.
- Some so-called or lazy Christians can be dictators, but God/Jesus is not! He's letting everyone free to make up their own mind (and you've got a lifetime for it), but at some point He will stand up for the ones that are being crushed (or hurt) by others. ... (cont at PART f15)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f15 -
... He wants us all to love one another, but not by force.
- True followers of God/Jesus will impose the harder teachings of Jesus on themselves instead of pushing them onto others.
The full page response says it all better (more precise), and adds some examples to it.
Blessings!
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
I'll be happy to do my part to wake the world up to the horrors of north korea, but I don't need/want help from a fairy tale god that science proves does not exist, i believe jesus existed, but was nothing more than a cult leader no different than charles manson or jim jones. Except more people died/die in jesus' name. Mansons followers claimed he performed miracles too, and I bet they'd have all been happy to write a "bible" of his exploits too. as for nk, let me know how I can help.
fatherofmy5 1 year ago
- PART f21 -
Okay, fatherofmy5, it's clear now that we don't believe in the same things, and I do want you to know that it hurts me rather a lot that you compare Jesus Christ to Charles Manson, but okay, we better set our differences apart for now, and try to help NK, as you suggested.
I want you to know that I don't wanna push you into something that's not close to your heart or doesn't do right to your abilities. I don't know what you're able to do, but I could give you some hints; ... (f22)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f22 -
... you're, of course, free to do something completely different.
My hints would be:
a. You can find a list of websites of organizations dedicated to human rights for North Korea on my website (Get Informed page). You could decide to give and/or raise money for the work these organizations do (e.g. helping NK refugees stranded at the Sino-Korean border, and sometimes bring them to a safe haven, e.g. South Korea or the US).
(see f23)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f23 -
b. You could help in demonstrations (there's a worldwide demonstration coming up on Feb 25 (already next Thursday), go to facebook, login and go to the group called 'support robert park', then go to Discussions tab, find post named 'Email Update from Unify Korea' created on Feb 3, there you will find details on demonstrations that are going to take place the coming months).
(see f24)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f24 -
c. What I think most important at this moment is funding the people that regularly send big balloons with information, radio's, money, etc into NK from the SK border. They try to do it every week. An organization called 'Fighters for Free North Korea' is doing that; their site: ffnk net. But since their site is in Korean, best you can do is to contact Suzanne Scholte (nkfreedom org website, Get Involved page, the piece 'Support Balloon Launches into North Korea')
(see f25)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f25 -
d. Websites that can help you further:
-- nkfreedom org, Get Involved page (balloons: ffnk net; and also other links)
-- 318partners org (org of a man who's been in Chinese prison for couple of years for helping NK refugees)
-- durihana net (org of man who has helped 800 NK refugees escape to South Korea)
-- linkglobal org (e.g. trying to support NK refugees coming in to the US)
-- crossingbordersnk org (NK refugee shelters in China)
Blessings in whatever you do!
--
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
That's a lot of information to check out, thank you. I will be going through it. I can't even put into words how frustrated and appalled I am that so many people are suffering so kim jong il can live a life of luxury! I am thoroughly disgusted. I heard china is considering a wall for when kim dies to stop mass defections, I don't know how nk can be stopped when it seems as though the world doesn't want it fixed. Heart wrenching.
fatherofmy5 1 year ago
- PART f31 -
Thank you for your heart and your readiness for the poor people of NK!
Know how you feel. Please, find a way for yourself to help in some kind of way that fits you best (or is closest to your heart and your abilities). Don't be like the ones that yell at proponents of the NK regime on YouTube, even ridiculing Kim Jong-il (showing disrespect only makes things worse), and subsequently do nothing about it. But I kinda figured you're probably not that type, cause I can ... (next: f32)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f32 -
[cause I can...] see that your heart can really cry for these poor people. And that's what should be our motivation: to free the people! And not: to see the regime hanged.
We've got to channel our frustration, appallingness, and disgust into something useful for these poor people.
(next: f33)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f33 -
A few quotes that come to mind, might be motivating:
- All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men to do nothing. (Edmond Burke)
- Perhaps we cannot make this a world in which children are no longer tortured. But we can reduce the number of tortured children. (Albert Camus)
- Many small people who in many small places do many small things can change the world. (written on the Berlin Wall)
(next: f34)
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
- PART f34 -
To maybe add to your appallingness, see these articles:
- go to dailynk english: search for the article "A Softhearted Leader, a Touching Hope for the People"
- go to chosun ilbo english: search for the arctile "The Facts About Kim Jong-il's Private Train"
Blessings!
--
DavidKoHannah 1 year ago
how can i download this song
Godcomingwithsword 2 years ago
ZofeluxDiforof, if you can watch my video and see the horrors depicted in there, and then come up with the comment as you did about fucking two girls then you must be the lowest and sickest character on earth!
If I were you I would drastically start to look for a big change in your life. Jesus Christ has spilled His precious blood for you too, but not if you keep having these gross thoughts.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
One word: Proof
Deutschland596 2 years ago
For some proof see my reply to iwsab some 5 months ago. Search for the line 'the cartoons are not made by me, but by former NK prisoners and guards that have escaped from the camps.' In that same comment and following comments you'll find some proof of it all. And if it still does not satisfy you then start reading the books I have listed in the column to the right of the video (under 'more info'). I can recommend the book by Soon Ok Lee, who has been detained in a camp in NK for 7 years.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
하나민에 대해 쉽게 말 하지 마세요. 하나님 존재은 증거없어요. 다 종교은 거짓이에요. 만약 너는 북한사람들을 생명위해서 예수처멀 너 죽어야 해 희생이요. 죽기 싫으면 위선적 마세요. 너 거짓사람이에요.
xenderxvr 2 years ago
At xenderxvr:
I do not need evidence for God's existence. If you look at the injustice in this world, you know there has to be a better world (called heaven), as well as a Creator (God/Jesus Christ) who in the end will judge all our crimes (that is, unless we better ourselves in this world, and speak out a big sorry from our heart).
Or do you believe that some people are just more lucky than others?
Doesn't feel just, does it?
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
북한을 위해 하나님께 기도하겠습니다.
ltjgbadass 2 years ago
감사합니다!
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
좀 정신좀 차려라.
미국사람의 2백만이 감옥에 있다.
요즘도 베니쓰에서 한국 세탁소 보는 여자 강간당하고 살인당했다.
이나라는 지금 전쟁하고 살인하고있다.
북조선이 문제냐? 좀 생각좀 하구 이놈들 꼬붕짖 하지 말래니깐!
dongsoola 2 years ago
Stop being abusive, dongsoola. And I never said that Americans don't do anything wrong, and also in a war there's always soldiers that take advantage, or are oversexed or anything. But that doesn't mean the US or its government is all bad. In the case of NK the elite is systematically exploiting and rooting out the so-called hostile class of people, i.e. the ones that disagree with the unjust system called Juche.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
Oh and I am sure officials from the other side like South Korea are going to be pretty objective too like when the US came up with the superdollar shit and the Swiss Federal Police disapproved there theory.
meleszenawi1111 2 years ago
I got it from BBC unless now that is North Korean propaganda and why are you quoting amentsy or HRW which both have been proven to be biased
meleszenawi1111 2 years ago
FutureStudy have you been to the DPRK no I have been five times in the last four years you little fuck go before you talk
meleszenawi1111 2 years ago
Melezzenawi1111, let me guess. You have been to Pyongyang and were told you are not permitted to take pictures of that stupid tall statue, and then not permitted to travel wherever and whenever you want. You have never been to the border region, or any other small town. You only have lived with the elites. Nice. You saw 4% of North Korea's population and society. You don't know anything about real North Korea.
FutureStudy 2 years ago 2
I will go to North Korea when I can photograph any statue, say anything I want, visit any city and any house I want, and take with me out of North Korea any North Korean I want on vacation to my house, just like people can do from free countries.
The holocaust in North Korea continues, just not in Pyongyang.
FutureStudy 2 years ago 10
FutureStudy since the korean war there has only been 16,000 defections and yes many times the defectors have been proven to lie. And during the Hee and Hwan eras in the ROK it would not be surprising.
meleszenawi1111 2 years ago
Where did you get that number from? You just made it up.
"Officials in South Korea estimate that nearly 20,000 North Koreans have relocated to SK since the 1950s, most within the last decade."
"When the number of defectors peaked in the late 90s, The number of people that defected to China ranged about 15,000~20,000 a year in the 1990s."
FutureStudy 2 years ago
execution in the us is done quite often and they execute children. SUre they might investigate but most of the time thye catch the wrong person or it takes years basically the system is messed up because either the lazy ass detectives plant somethig or crap I mean north korea's system is much better kill al criminals. And david any nation is good hearted as long as it is not israel or america
meleszenawi1111 2 years ago
(091206/PART1 of 6)
At meleszenawi1111:
I don't mean to pick on you, but I honestly think you need re-education. I cannot believe you buy this crap about how the system in the US works. These things that you describe might happen occasionally since in every system there's always one or two bad guys who take advantage of their position.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
(091206/PART2)
In NK this is the other way around; there the system is the bad guys, and maybe one or two good people are trying to do good as far as the system allows it. You guys aren't even allowed free thinking, and get polluted all day with propaganda songs and speeches, as well as state-run TV propaganda.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
(091206/PART3)
There's noone that's entitled to express thoughts different from what you guys are supposed to think - like a country full of marionettes/robots programmed to bow for the 'great leader' and say all kinds of flattering words on his account, and once you're at home you will start thinking: 'Who the hell am I? A man (who can think for himself) or a monkey (who performs the tricks his master forces him to do) ?'.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
(091206/PART4)
In NK you just kill all the criminals, that's what you say; but I think they mess up the definition of the word 'criminal' with that of the word 'opponent', or 'someone whose face we don't like', or 'someone who doesn't think like us', etc.
More than a century ago the US also had a judicial system that condemned people too quickly...
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
(091206/PART5)
...that condemned people too quickly for a crime they didn't do, and so there also have been people that were executed, where afterwards they found out that someone else had done it. So, they changed that already a long time ago, so that now the person has to really really be proven guilty before they decide to execute the person. And take it from me, this doesn't happen very often, as you seem to be thinking (or: seem to have been led to believe by the propaganda system in NK).
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
(20091206/PART6)
You say any nation except Israel and US is goodhearted. I'd say to deserve the label 'goodhearted' a nation should at least allow its citizens freedom of speech and freedom of thought (so that they can believe what they wanna believe). God gave us freedom; in some countries we have a dictator playing (a judging) God, but not as the real God ever intended or still intends to be.
In Israel and US people are as free as you can be in this imperfect world. In NK no-one is free!
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
At meleszenawi1111: Read also my earlier comments about guards getting a promotion when they force a christian prisoner give up his faith (see 'a camp-guard gets a big promotion when he succeeds in forcing a christian prisoner give up his/her faith.'),
and about a group of people melting away because a guard had ordered to cover them with boiling iron from the oven (see 'I also know of a true story of a group of people being covered with 650 degrees molten iron straight from the oven.').
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
These pictures are all fake. Have you ever been to the DPRK how do you know all of this amenesty which is been proven to be biased the defectors who we have found out many times that they lie and in realilty are criminals but want citizenship to defect and try to give there story a human side fuck that they are defectors shoot them all.
meleszenawi1111 2 years ago
At meleszenawi1111: How do you know all this? The fact that you end your message with 'shoot them all' doesn't give me the feeling that you come from a loving goodhearted nation. Seems you guys distrust everybody in the whole wide world that doesn't think exactly like you.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
You are hilarious meleszenawi. Do you know how many defectors there are? 20,000 so far. Do you know how many defectors are hiding in China? 10s of thousands. They are all lying huh? The SK authorities went to all 20,000 and convinced them to lie. You are the only one who is lying, only to yourself.
FutureStudy 2 years ago 5
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i wish all the koreans would die
xEVILxEMOKID 2 years ago
- PART 1 -
You've probably never thought about what happens to people when they die. People are not pawns in a game you play, xEVILxEMOKID. Try to imagine how it would feel if you were tortured or killed. I would hope there are people around you that want you to stay alive for another 40 years or so. I hope that for everybody in the world, and I hope that people better themselves rather than kill the ones that I don't like that much. (see PART 2)
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
- PART 2 -
Start loving, man, instead of hating. You are loved by God in heaven! He has created you. Now, let us love one another as well.
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
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Song/video sucks balls
meleszenawi1111 2 years ago
Why's that?
DavidKoHannah 2 years ago
The female is NOT NK defector.
She was a hoe. I can know that by listening to what the hitting person says.
She probably was warned before, but she kept doing it.
They are teaching her a lesson.
This kind of thing is NOT immoral in Korea..
dongsoola 2 years ago