The Armory Show International Fair 2008

[boils2]

Wanna find sales tax cheats....go here....

[artworldpirate]

It's full of twisty, sparkly, shapely thingies with a lot of pretentious pretenders talking nonsense.

[Tenedos2008]

very nice... what is this place? A horbor building?

[johnhitchen]

the market is honest. you must be fucking joking

[jameskalm]

More honest than some single institution and their inexperienced curators. JK

[johnhitchen]

i just dont see how the market--which represents the rich and the very, very well off--is more "honest" than curators from an institution, which also represents the rich who fund that institution. hello? the curators are perhaps more art-educated than the rich punters but really, where's the "honesty" index?

[jameskalm]

Class warfare aside, with the market, people buy it because they honestly like it, or they think they can make money when the "flip" it, or they think it will add to their prestige when the show it to their friends or donate it to a museum. Many times institutions show stuff because it's "good for the viewer", "significant" or to redress past inequities, not because it's good.

[MrWowforever]

what would an honest exhibition look like? is it possible? i've never met an absolutely honest person in my life, and i'm 41:)

[jameskalm]

We're not talking about the abstract notion of a totally honest exhibition or person. We're talking about whether an open market is a more honest reflection of societies wants needs and desires than the efforts an institution which has no transparency in its curatorial choices.

[MrWowforever]

i agree with your points, especially with Krens at the guggenheim, and Lowry's 'entertainment' agenda and the whitneys bit streams and biannuals decline; i hear you mr. kalm, i prefer the value of taste (the market), they buy what they like! the curators for the new whitney biannual seem so boringly academic in interviews, no real personality, it shows in their exhibition. i think your right here, the market is not just rich people, many mid-level collectors help support younger artists.

[jameskalm]

MrWow,

The market is totally insidious, like it or not, it is what it is. It's built into the museum structure publications and media, even academia. If it's working for them, people appreciate it, if it's not they despise it. Johnnitchen's view seems to be the latter

[MrWowforever]

it's a complicated web that is born of spurious means. to be fair....the money the market sends in is used for good things too, sustaining careers of worthy artists of talent. the means are insidious but the ends, sometimes, can be good. which side of the fence your on.... point taken:)

[johnhitchen]

I didnt say I dispised the market, I said it was no more honest than the institution. But MrWF...they're all rich to me!

"Society does not consist of individuals; it expresses the sum of connections and relationships in which individuals find themselves."

[MrWowforever]

sorry:)

[MrWowforever]

the market controls the narrative right now, most young artists talk about the market before their work. all successful artists are immediately dubbed 'sell outs' and communities of discontent usually revolve around envy (caused by the market). i don't know that the market is honest, but it is definitely defining things (too much) :)just my opinion:)

[MrWowforever]

thanks for the response mr. kalm and you need a weekend on the beach!!!!! your videos are a gift!

[MrWowforever]

your comment that the market controls the flow at the art fairs is apt. i've had my art exhibited at the armory before and it was like visiting it at the mall, not the market. is painting the whore in the back room that funds all of the t.v's in the front room(the whitney)? thanks for the view mr. kalm. :)

[jamespcollier]

nice job, thank you

[spawndonacle]

Very entertaining, but when I close my eyes I forget them all -- with the exception of the tatooed pig. The vigilometer is just an alarm clock with fairly high voltages driving the Nixie tubes. Radio Shack employee turned artist. There appears to be a lot of love of material and technique. Since most cars, with the exception of Lightning McQueen, are female, was the split pink car a vaginallic symbol? The way my wife drives, I've seen dozens of those.

[RonSchira]

The most European? How is that meant, James? Cool 'clock' - sounds loud...

[jameskalm]

What that means is: Euros are appreciated, please spend then here. More European galleries than ever before. Stay tuned for part II and maybe part III if required. Art Fair Marathon is just getting started JK

[peteinstro]

Great, would like to see alot more from the Armory, thanks.

[eenkjet]

salivating. thanks james.