look; that's life, some people are fucked up in ways that kill them. If they can't pay for it that's their problem. The fact that their insurance got them as much as it did is a blessing; we can't complain that it wasn't enough.
But Poly didn't deserve that. Her treatment was paid for; she didn't deserve to have it taken away! They kicked her out for trying to have a life. (smoking and getting tattoos and trying to help out her friends; that's some hardcore shit there!)
Totally agree, they are not stubborn children. They treat them like 6 years olds in there. "you must tell the truth, you must follow rules, you must not get any tattoos, you must eat your food" and what happens, the second they eat some real food on the outside they throw it up. Proof that place is horrible
thats fucked up, if that lady says she has worked very hard in her recovery why dont they just donate their services and let her finish the treatment... If she was being honest about her working hard then it would be a good idea to let her finish recovery for free because if she does get completely better it would make the treatment center look better. Greedy fucking doctors...
I saw Kailee (I think thats how you spell it, the blonde one) recently and she looked really healthy, she looked soo familiar and then i realized who it was. She was really sweet.
@Becca7493 Yes you can! Yes, they got help but their treatment wasn't finished when they had to leave...and they didn't have the will to get better at the time. You CAN get better. I did! Many people have gotten better. you are NOT trapped.
@Becca7493 There's truly recovery , it actually exists it's only up to u, I know cuz i lived it, I lived that horrible anorexic life. In my worst moment i was only 55 pounds and lost 4 years of my life, now I'm healthy and try to keep that way
The staff member who signed her out is just as sick as she is!!! she is morbidly obese!!! Compulsive Overeating is a serious disease too!!! I remember when i was in rehab one of the young psichologysts was really really fat...could not believe anything she said..no respect for her
i love this documentary to death but not in a positive way. it's very triggering, very negative and it gives you a hopeless feeling. definitely not beneficial for those not in recovery.
@breathein4luck15 yes I agree with you still 2 years later... I love this doumentary... Not in a healthy way either. I see myself in those girls. Alicia especially... but it really is triggering.
burnt-you're right. But the reason insurance cuts off payment is b/c its MEDICAL insurance. So when a persons weight is stabalized, MEDICAL treatment is no longer required-regardless of how our heads may feel. Medical insurance doesnt cover psychiatric illnesses. Medical insurance ONLY pays for the physical consequences of EDs. It sucks! But its true.
It's so horrible the health system of yours in US...
Where I live, the state pays for the costs at the clinic(wouldn't afford otherwise). They told me that I almost without doubt would have died without their help. God the world is horrible...
I love Alisa. I can most definitely relate to her story. Most of my life, I had to deal with trying to stay within a "healthy" weight range. I too, had an eating disorder and it's still a struggle for me to eat more than 800 calories a day and more. It's hard, you know.
Was I the only one who thought the doctors and therapists at this eating disorder clinic were real assholes who had no compassion for their patients whatsoever?
i didnt get to see the rest of it, but... they have to be in order to get the people to eat. though I think my favorite example of a clnic is Rhodes Farm... it seems like they're dilligent and series about their task there
I know, she was mean. I'm sure hey're doing their jobs the best way they know how, but I have anorexia and I would just be more tempted to restrict or purge if I felt like I was being a troublemaker for something I have a hard time controlling. I'm not saying I have a better solution or anything, cause I obviously wouldn't be sick if I did, but it seems like they could at least adopt a method that doesn't seem so...accusatory. Sorry for the rant there, but Jesus. No me gusta.
they cant be all nice and sweet to them. ED patients are manipulative and they'll do anything to get their way. They need to learn to live life in life's terms, not on theirs. Theirs dont work, or they wouldnt be here. Pussyfooting around, being all nicey nice and letting them have their way--WONT teach them anything or do them any favors.
Hmmm, that's not what my therapist says. She's a pretty highly regarded eating disorder specialist who trains other therapists looking to specialize in eating disorder treatment. She says that she shows this movie as a way of showing what not to do and cannot believe that Renfew let this movie be released.
oms-I can totally see an ED specialist showing this as what NOT to do. But, w/patients who are still very sick-this film can be triggering & some even have picked up "tips" & "tricks" from watching this. I've talked to 1 of them women in this film (2 of the women are in solid recovery now) & w/her experiences she shared w/me that were not shown on film--I too wondered how Renfrew allowed release. It put them in a VERY bad light on so many levels.
It IS the system's fault if they kick her out--maybe if she was able to stay there she could have made different choices. She probably felt "safe" there.
Amer-No. They had been in treatment for WEEKS-they LONG since had tools they needed. Is it the "systems" fault for their ED? No. So-why would it be the "systems" fault for their recovery? It's NOT. The 2 girls who are in solid recovery-from this film-ALSO were kicked out b/c their insurance no longer would pay. Is the "system" responsible for their solid recovery? NO. The 2 girls are.
Amer-check yourself & the time on my comments. This was 22 hrs ago. My LAST comment to you was 7 hrs ago-& in that 1I AGREED w/you. I used to be these girls. I also know 1 of these girls in the film. SHE has filled me in on a LOT more than what is seen in this 1hr 40mins of very nicely EDITED film. *I* have compassion for them-the staff doesnt. Please DONT judge me. I NEVER claimed to be FOR the system. Please DONT put words in my mouth.
How do you know I am not one of these girls? You DON'T. I am not putting words in your mouth. I am sorry I judged you--this is a very touchy subject. I am glad that girl was able to fill you in on what really happened in that facility. I don't want to argue, I just want to support, that's all. Please don't take anything personal that I say. :)
American-I DO know you're one of these girls-how did I know? B/c you wouoldnt have been so passionate on your stance about this. Thing is-I *agree* with everything you said. :) It IS a touchy subject. It's something that almost killed us. Only *we* can take back what ED took from us. We are ALL in this together, all on the same team. :)
Hey I'm sorry that I seemed harsh on the comments on the Anorexic page. I didn't mean to judge you or attack you. Sometimes I have diarrhea of the mouth. I hope you can forgive me. :):)
Amer-no need for apologies, love. I know how tough my ED was for me. We're a defensive bunch w/our ED's-we do tend to get diarrhea of the mouth quite often-when we feel we're being attacked. What we need to remember is not everyone is a team player. We're all on the same team-even tho we're all diff-& so are our stories-the roots are the same-we all want/need to be heard.
Please, stay safe, my friend. :) & if you ever have "diarrhea of the mouth" again-hit my mailbox here. :)
@JewPowerGo She actually became a heroin addict (I got that from her own myspace page, so don't shoot me down for saying it). I dont' know how she is now...
My love goes out to Polly and those she left behind. It's been a year since she died but her amazing personality and her struggle to get better is not forgotten.
I loved every minute of that documentary. Only bad thing was I learned that tapping your foot really quickly while eating boosts your metabolism. Considering people who watch this will include people with eating disorders, they should've edited it out.
Sad how most of those girls, if not all went back to their old habits. Recovery truly is a difficult thing.
@calamityjane1975 Actually i don't i just realized that i was too young to die
maniacminerva 7 months ago
and, that is very, very sad : (
mschorne 10 months ago
look; that's life, some people are fucked up in ways that kill them. If they can't pay for it that's their problem. The fact that their insurance got them as much as it did is a blessing; we can't complain that it wasn't enough.
But Poly didn't deserve that. Her treatment was paid for; she didn't deserve to have it taken away! They kicked her out for trying to have a life. (smoking and getting tattoos and trying to help out her friends; that's some hardcore shit there!)
V20T18R15O12L12L 1 year ago
Totally agree, they are not stubborn children. They treat them like 6 years olds in there. "you must tell the truth, you must follow rules, you must not get any tattoos, you must eat your food" and what happens, the second they eat some real food on the outside they throw it up. Proof that place is horrible
PRstudent211 1 year ago 5
What a suprise, none of them made any progress.
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they were basicly threw into a hospital,
made to feel like crap.
gave a food.
forced to eat it.
hows that gonna help?
they need love and care.
its an ilness, there not stubborn children who wont eat there dinner cause they dont like it..
RoxiiXoX 1 year ago 2
thats fucked up, if that lady says she has worked very hard in her recovery why dont they just donate their services and let her finish the treatment... If she was being honest about her working hard then it would be a good idea to let her finish recovery for free because if she does get completely better it would make the treatment center look better. Greedy fucking doctors...
mariobeans 1 year ago 7
I saw Kailee (I think thats how you spell it, the blonde one) recently and she looked really healthy, she looked soo familiar and then i realized who it was. She was really sweet.
ihateumbridge 2 years ago
this just makes me think there's no way to fully recover.
i guess i'm trapped.
they got help but as soon as it was over, they started losing again and went right back to it..
Becca7493 2 years ago
sweetie ur not trapped...if u really want to g et better and beat that monster..you can...dig down and f ind ur true innerself
iluvamedic 2 years ago
@Becca7493 Yes you can! Yes, they got help but their treatment wasn't finished when they had to leave...and they didn't have the will to get better at the time. You CAN get better. I did! Many people have gotten better. you are NOT trapped.
halesrus7 2 years ago
@Becca7493 There's truly recovery , it actually exists it's only up to u, I know cuz i lived it, I lived that horrible anorexic life. In my worst moment i was only 55 pounds and lost 4 years of my life, now I'm healthy and try to keep that way
maniacminerva 10 months ago
Damn!! Alisa is RICH! her house is so awesome!!! Thats what a divorce gets you.
dineesi 2 years ago
@dineesi Military
BleakIsLifeIsBleak 2 years ago
OHHHH..shes in the military..got it. okay so thats what the military gets you :)
dineesi 2 years ago
no no she was in the military
iluvamedic 2 years ago
depends on ur carrer, its usually paycheck to paycheck
ccrawford553 2 years ago
Oh my! The woman signing her out is even less healthy then the thin girls, she is obese. that kills people too!!!!
lollipopfop 2 years ago 5
You notice when Alisa goes to purge the door is closed, then a second later it's open?
That's got to be so weird with the documentary crew there...what did they do? Stop filming and then ask if they could watch or something???
powellpicc1985 2 years ago 2
The staff member who signed her out is just as sick as she is!!! she is morbidly obese!!! Compulsive Overeating is a serious disease too!!! I remember when i was in rehab one of the young psichologysts was really really fat...could not believe anything she said..no respect for her
iovivoperleiana 2 years ago 5
thankyou thankyou thankyou.....
disneyprincess!!
76faseluj 2 years ago
These girls need EMPATHY and LOVE- CARE.
I could freak out right now.
MissesPapillon 2 years ago 5
I agree, do you think obese people who deal with inability to also control their eating deserve the same response?
Jleigh225 2 years ago 2
WTF??? Electric shock therapy???
My God- THIS WORLD IS CRAZY!!!
How could you dare to do this to yourself or anyone else?
I am mad and sad. :-(
MissesPapillon 2 years ago 3
Polly commited suiced last year. :( RIP polly
Pumkinlumpkins 2 years ago 34
its so sad :(
ripperdowns 2 years ago
omg?! how do you know.. shit
crosturphobic 2 years ago
@Pumkinlumpkins
and....that is very, very sad : (
mschorne 10 months ago
i love this documentary to death but not in a positive way. it's very triggering, very negative and it gives you a hopeless feeling. definitely not beneficial for those not in recovery.
breathein4luck15 2 years ago 15
so true.
lilella44 2 years ago
@breathein4luck15 yes I agree with you still 2 years later... I love this doumentary... Not in a healthy way either. I see myself in those girls. Alicia especially... but it really is triggering.
jennicalynn86 7 months ago
first night home and she relapsed.
Poor woman.
flo123456 2 years ago
does anyone know where i can get the FULL vid/dvd.....?
The dvd wont play in the uk!!
Thx
76faseluj 2 years ago 3
google video has the whole thing. :)
disneyprincess761 2 years ago
Haha. I know. Once a person is no longer "ill" in medical terms they are released. It just takes you for a head loop because its so sad.
burntcoffeebeans 2 years ago
I wish I had tons of money so I could pay for these girls to stay in treatment as long as they needed it.
RockingMom1957 2 years ago 3
This was so sad.
I hate insurance, they feel as though once you gain 10 pounds you are "cured". Its a sad reality insurances care about money not about us
burntcoffeebeans 2 years ago 4
burnt-you're right. But the reason insurance cuts off payment is b/c its MEDICAL insurance. So when a persons weight is stabalized, MEDICAL treatment is no longer required-regardless of how our heads may feel. Medical insurance doesnt cover psychiatric illnesses. Medical insurance ONLY pays for the physical consequences of EDs. It sucks! But its true.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
It's so horrible the health system of yours in US...
Where I live, the state pays for the costs at the clinic(wouldn't afford otherwise). They told me that I almost without doubt would have died without their help. God the world is horrible...
CherryViz 2 years ago 6
i aggree, as soon as I my insurance ran out they sent me packing
hxcchick 2 years ago
that was such a huge step in the restaurant!
regardless of what happened after, doing that without being forced to is outstanding
Bulana00 2 years ago
I love Alisa. I can most definitely relate to her story. Most of my life, I had to deal with trying to stay within a "healthy" weight range. I too, had an eating disorder and it's still a struggle for me to eat more than 800 calories a day and more. It's hard, you know.
LeanaHM76 2 years ago
god i weigh more than all those women and i'm 12 :(
isings1 2 years ago
you are beautiful :)
schatteke 2 years ago
That's probably not a bad thing
VillyVonka1 2 years ago
All addictions suck!!
Bobsucks169 2 years ago 24
Was I the only one who thought the doctors and therapists at this eating disorder clinic were real assholes who had no compassion for their patients whatsoever?
omshantipeace 2 years ago 13
i didnt get to see the rest of it, but... they have to be in order to get the people to eat. though I think my favorite example of a clnic is Rhodes Farm... it seems like they're dilligent and series about their task there
Fuiren 2 years ago 2
No I did too! specially that nutritionist!
sasabroson 2 years ago
I know, she was mean. I'm sure hey're doing their jobs the best way they know how, but I have anorexia and I would just be more tempted to restrict or purge if I felt like I was being a troublemaker for something I have a hard time controlling. I'm not saying I have a better solution or anything, cause I obviously wouldn't be sick if I did, but it seems like they could at least adopt a method that doesn't seem so...accusatory. Sorry for the rant there, but Jesus. No me gusta.
omshantipeace 2 years ago
they cant be all nice and sweet to them. ED patients are manipulative and they'll do anything to get their way. They need to learn to live life in life's terms, not on theirs. Theirs dont work, or they wouldnt be here. Pussyfooting around, being all nicey nice and letting them have their way--WONT teach them anything or do them any favors.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
Hmmm, that's not what my therapist says. She's a pretty highly regarded eating disorder specialist who trains other therapists looking to specialize in eating disorder treatment. She says that she shows this movie as a way of showing what not to do and cannot believe that Renfew let this movie be released.
omshantipeace 2 years ago
oms-I can totally see an ED specialist showing this as what NOT to do. But, w/patients who are still very sick-this film can be triggering & some even have picked up "tips" & "tricks" from watching this. I've talked to 1 of them women in this film (2 of the women are in solid recovery now) & w/her experiences she shared w/me that were not shown on film--I too wondered how Renfrew allowed release. It put them in a VERY bad light on so many levels.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
Oh i wish all the parts were here i want to re-watch it all...:'[
*sniffs* ...i feel so sad..for the ed sufferers who didn't recovered compeletly and relapsed
especially for Polly..R.I.P'!
gnrqueen 2 years ago 6
Oh I hate how they just kicked her out of there due to insurance and she goes back home and is again a victim of this disease. Shame on the system.
Americangirl787 2 years ago 17
its not the "system's" fault they relapsed. Its the patients choice, and seriousness about recovery. 2 of the 4 are in solid recovery now.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
It IS the system's fault if they kick her out--maybe if she was able to stay there she could have made different choices. She probably felt "safe" there.
Americangirl787 2 years ago
Amer-No. They had been in treatment for WEEKS-they LONG since had tools they needed. Is it the "systems" fault for their ED? No. So-why would it be the "systems" fault for their recovery? It's NOT. The 2 girls who are in solid recovery-from this film-ALSO were kicked out b/c their insurance no longer would pay. Is the "system" responsible for their solid recovery? NO. The 2 girls are.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
Why are you so FOR the system and have NO compassion for the girls?? My God you just want to argue.
Americangirl787 2 years ago
Amer-check yourself & the time on my comments. This was 22 hrs ago. My LAST comment to you was 7 hrs ago-& in that 1I AGREED w/you. I used to be these girls. I also know 1 of these girls in the film. SHE has filled me in on a LOT more than what is seen in this 1hr 40mins of very nicely EDITED film. *I* have compassion for them-the staff doesnt. Please DONT judge me. I NEVER claimed to be FOR the system. Please DONT put words in my mouth.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
How do you know I am not one of these girls? You DON'T. I am not putting words in your mouth. I am sorry I judged you--this is a very touchy subject. I am glad that girl was able to fill you in on what really happened in that facility. I don't want to argue, I just want to support, that's all. Please don't take anything personal that I say. :)
Americangirl787 2 years ago
American-I DO know you're one of these girls-how did I know? B/c you wouoldnt have been so passionate on your stance about this. Thing is-I *agree* with everything you said. :) It IS a touchy subject. It's something that almost killed us. Only *we* can take back what ED took from us. We are ALL in this together, all on the same team. :)
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
Hey I'm sorry that I seemed harsh on the comments on the Anorexic page. I didn't mean to judge you or attack you. Sometimes I have diarrhea of the mouth. I hope you can forgive me. :):)
Have a great day.
Americangirl787 2 years ago
Amer-no need for apologies, love. I know how tough my ED was for me. We're a defensive bunch w/our ED's-we do tend to get diarrhea of the mouth quite often-when we feel we're being attacked. What we need to remember is not everyone is a team player. We're all on the same team-even tho we're all diff-& so are our stories-the roots are the same-we all want/need to be heard.
Please, stay safe, my friend. :) & if you ever have "diarrhea of the mouth" again-hit my mailbox here. :)
xxx,
Karen
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
i can't believe you have to pay for treatment in the states. it's actually astounding in some cases.
livvyxo 2 years ago 5
I always thought britanny would be the one to kill herself...
JewPowerGo 2 years ago
@JewPowerGo She actually became a heroin addict (I got that from her own myspace page, so don't shoot me down for saying it). I dont' know how she is now...
kbsydney 10 months ago
@kbsydney Wow really?
That's...unfortunate.
JewPowerGo 10 months ago
My love goes out to Polly and those she left behind. It's been a year since she died but her amazing personality and her struggle to get better is not forgotten.
Tuntenut 3 years ago 6
Polly died? From what? Suicide?
JewPowerGo 2 years ago
R.I.P-Polly
xnisha18x 3 years ago 5
I loved every minute of that documentary. Only bad thing was I learned that tapping your foot really quickly while eating boosts your metabolism. Considering people who watch this will include people with eating disorders, they should've edited it out.
Sad how most of those girls, if not all went back to their old habits. Recovery truly is a difficult thing.
Wherever they are now, I wish you girls luck
xx
AnaPleaseLoveMe 3 years ago 3
Ana-about the foot tapping, that was mentioned in the Rhodes Farm doc, I believe, not this one.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
polly comitted suicide a couple of months later
cutiemandy55 3 years ago
cutie-this doc was filed in 2004 and released in 2006. Polly died in Feb. 2008.
DesertSerenade 2 years ago
No she killed herself last year !
cindy212212 3 years ago
happy new years
ikiq 3 years ago
could you upload all of them? i want to see the whole thing!
xelmopaperclipx 3 years ago 6
they all were uploaded. I watched it all a few months ago and either Youtube took'em down or whoever put'em up took'em donw.
JewPowerGo 2 years ago
Polly killed herself this year. :(
curlywurlywurl 3 years ago
"Life Without Ed" was such a good book.
MARIxMICHELLE 3 years ago
thanks for adding the entire show, it's great.
mybaccy 3 years ago 3
where is the entire show at????
Adricorleone24 3 years ago 4
It was uploaded by AniMia Slave, but it looks like the other parts have been removed
mybaccy 3 years ago