khalistan is a must for the sikhs and sant bhindranwale was the right man

[Vasco1701]

Indira Ghandi was a pandit in name! In reality She backstabbed over half a million of her own Pandit Brothers Sisters Mums and dads by ceremiously handing over her Ancestral Pandit Homeland to Pakistan And compromising th safety of 500 000 Pandit Hindus in the Valley!

her PAndit status came to an end when She watched 2 million bengalis (disproprtionatly hi num of hindu pandits writers scholars) massacred in 1971 War of Independance in Bengladesh!

Was she a hindu/Pandit??

[Vasco1701]

DamDami Taksaal whos 14th Head was Bhindrawale! had spent time with Herkowhaal Nirmalla Sect! Its Former Jathedar Gurbachan Singh Bhindrawale spent time with Pandits for grasping Veds!

WHat is this hindu phobia??

If u ask yourself a logical question what is the point of loosing 300 000 young men?? WHo today could be married with kids!

That energy could be chanellised positive for education development! and changing world we live in!

[Vasco1701]

another thing i never understood is what is the Bulletpoint Agenda of Dal Khalsa and its Affiliated Groups In Response to -

* Athiesm * Kes Cutting * Casteism * Alcohol distribution during akali dal elections

its all fine to talk politics! But At grass roots what is Dal Khalsa and its Khalistani affiliates achieving when it comes to the Faith that is being eroded in the Countrysides? We are moving away from Waheguru to Chaudhar!

Then its empty talk left!

[Vasco1701]

The BK Khalistanis who tried to kill Bhindrawale are an Offshoot of Akhand Kirtan Jatha  known as AKJ!

the AKJ during mid 1990s split into AKJ and AKJ Panchain!

Panchain Coincidently decided they do not want a Khalistan anymore! Jagjit Chauhan Khalistan president making Khalistani Currency also moved back to India to retire!

Sohan SIngh who framed the Panthic Committee now denies his entire role in Khalistani politics! The WHole thing seems a bit shady to me!

[indianguy998877]

/watch?v=nwzWOPSgToY

This is the truth about 1984!

[Vasco1701]

The Khalistan Currency was created by London based Khalistan Idealogue Jagjit Chauhan an NRI veteran Akali Dal Politician who came straight ouf of India into Britain..Funnily enough he retired back to India the land he waged war on??? what a strange set of circumstances

[coolmannuu]

If you people dont know about Sant Bhindrawala ji then plz dont post anything against him. You people only know what Indian Govt. wanted you people to know. But the inside story is different. So plz dont post just like that against him. He was a saint soldier. A defender of his faith, justice.He was our lion.

[vansh3508]

ehe tuhada saale bhindrawala congress da khabba tatta c jehra tusi apne aap nu sacha sikh kehnde ho bhenchodo..............

[MegaHarshsingh]

@vansh3508 toon fuddi deya hai ki chij theke daar hai hai bond bich dum taan ek bari samne aake bol pher dekhyeen kiddan muuten ga

[na10101]

sikh should struggle to get their separate country

Khalistan Zindabad

[Vasco1701]

@na10101 Sikhs are not a singular community! They are spread thru India Some rural some urban! Majority in Punjab! Yet Millions more in Delhi/ Haryana Rajistan UP Mahrashtra and now SIkhligar Vanjara Sikh tribes  in South India!

[satwantgrewal]

sikhs need khalistan .... because we are not safe under the hindu govt.

Khalistan Zindabaad

[rajghole]

@satwantgrewal u not under hindu gov , india is democratic country and developing country .india has weakness and any way look who is our prime minister ,

[musclehandler]

@rajghole our pm is puppet of sonia gandhi. as far india is developing only rich people are getting richer. poor ppls are still living in slums. u ppl are running gandhi dynasty in india.

[Vasco1701]

@rajghole Indias economy is doing well! I dont think i can live in Punjab or Delhi! But a lot of people in n out of India love its buzz! Id like to visit Madras/ Rajistan Kerela and Nepal to experience real enriched cultures

[bapan1977]

@satwantgrewal

Prime minister is Sikh.

[Vasco1701]

@bapan1977 given the position Manmohan Singh is in! I think hes done well to raise the profile of Sikhs just by being PM! And Indians seem to love him although opposition take shots at him for being a singh! But His credentials and Profile speaks volumes for the development of India! Although the same cannot be said of Punjab on par terms! But then local politics dont do Punjab any favours!

[twistedwest1]

@Vasco1701 its just a joke. manmohan singh is not a sikh hes a hindu with a turban i know this because iv studied him and im a sikh myself and i know a phony when i see one. hes a hindu bitch

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 Sant Bhindrawales Own Brother In law followed Hindu Customs Scriptures in the Herkhowal Nirmalla Sect!

Bhindrawales Own Gurmat parchaar 5th Canto 9th Translation ( late1970s) depicted The Hindu Musical diety Narad appearing in Trance to Guru Arjun Dev! Thus began the Origin of Rag Mala Index in Guru Granth Sahib Ji! Available on Audio from SIkh Missionary North Street Gravesend Uk

[MrPeaceplz]

of course i admit that indira gandhi is a fool to send troops to the temple without discussing with sikh authorities if she was thinking that bhindranwale will divide the nation then she should have contacted the sikh authorities and show them her concern and then come with a solution that agrees with their belief .

[coolmannuu]

@MrPeaceplz That Indira bitch herself wanted all this. and the CM of punjab Prakash singh Badal was also involved in this. Badal herself called Indira and told her to attach Golden temple and kill Sant Bhindrawala ji. Rigth after partition Sikhs were being targeted by the Govt. I dont even have the count how many of they were killed brutly by the Govt. and police.Sant ji stood for the injustice, for their faith and for punjab. If fighting against injustice id wrong, then I am also a militant.

[Vasco1701]

@coolmannuu Its a little more complex than that! Caste politics came into play! Giani Zail Singh was President of India while Indira was Pm! She ran her Op BS papers for Aproval thru President Zail Singh (who held considerable sway amongst the urban Sikhs)! The Akalis were mostly Malwei Jatt! DDT Bhindrawale were at the time mostly Majhail and some Malwei Jatt. EVen Akali Longowal tried to get Bhindrawale poisoned from Inside Darbar Sahib according to Source AR Darshi

[Vasco1701]

@coolmannuu Gallant Defender also mentions that even the Akhand Kirtan Jatha had Political Connections to the Akalis and the BK from inside Darbar Sahib made one attempt at Bhindrawales Life on the pretext he should move out of the Sacred Precints! This resulted in a Gunfight! But Bhindrawale chose to reside in the Upper level of Nanak Niwas to compromise! The lines r too blurred and in a place Like Punjab allegiences change Overnight as do Tribal loyalties

[Vasco1701]

@coolmannuu Right after Partition Countless Majhail Jatt Sikhs (WHo had left pakistan) bypassed Ludhiana having endured massacres/ Property confiscation/ women looted and raped/ and in Ludhiana Majhail Sikhs tired n thirsty weere even denied water by local Punjabi Sikhs! resulting in Majhail Jatt Sikhs bypassing Truncated Punjab and heading straight for Haryana to live amongst Hindu Jaats to this day! We shud ask Y Sikhs refused to live with each other n help each other at the Darkest hour???

[twistedwest1]

@MrPeaceplz she wanted to do this on purpose she choice the exact date to destroy the sikhs spirits it was a joke to her. hindus killed thousands of sikhs while politicians made it clear sikhs were not wanted in india. khalistan zindibad

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 the thing i never understood is why did Punjabis vote for Congress Party to come in Punjab! Captain Amarinder Singh is a member of the Royal Patiala Family!

Its not like he needed Money!

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 actually Historically as in all cases Religion gets used and abused for settling personal Scores as it did in 1947 Partition 1700s between Punjabis and afghans! 1984 was no diff!

The Jaats of Haryana delhi were not "Hindu" until early 1900s Arya Samaj Movement purely 2 gain promise of better status with Indian Rulers! Arya Samaj histrically is anti sikh!

Thus Jaats follow an anti Sikh Man Made Sect! That many hindu Sampardais would actually argue is not hindu in origin

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 The riots that took place were instigated by Jaats Like Tytler Sajjan Kumar in their Tribal strongholds! Most of the SIkh carnage was in Delhi and Haryana in Jaat strongholds Where truckloads of Jaats and rajputs were shipped in!

The same Districts Villages in which the anti sikh rioting took place (Jaat) suddenly land price increased massively! meaning Congress Rewarded The payback for Jaat loyalty!

while Pandit Swami Subramanium and Ar Darshi defended Bhindrawales Name

[twistedwest1]

@Vasco1701 that is all bullshit it was a much larger picture

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 My Sources are Late SukhBir Singh Ossan (Pioneer Human Rights Journalist) Original "Burning Punjab" Website! Exposing the entire so called Khalistan leadership from top level Jagjit Chauhan/ Ganga Dhillon/ Sohan Singh (Panthic Committee), Didar Singh Bains in cahoots faxing love letters and lists to Akali Dal and SGPC in India

Ar Darshi (Former Chief Justice of Punjab during the Khadku Period)~ On Bhindrawale Gallant Defender!

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 of course there is always a larger picture!

And the buck did not stop at Khalistan or Ludhiana 1992 did it? Nor did the Buck start with Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale in 1978 1984! The wider agenda was politics!

Bhindrawale knew it all along! Thats why he chose to die with honour! while the So called Akali Dal came out with their hands up surrendering in Op BS!

[twistedwest1]

@Vasco1701 there were real and fake khalistanis. the real ones died for sikhi like bhindrawala

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 Sant Jarnail Singh never demanded a Khalistan!! What he had stated was if the gov had attacked The Holiest Shrine it would lay the foundation for a Khalistan Symbolically meaning Sikhs would fight back and never forget! Sant Jis Own Biiological Brother was in touch with Bhindrawale all the way uptil May 1984 His Brother Captian Harcharan Singh Rode had a level Position in the Indian Army!

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 Sant Bhindrawale had never demanded a seperate homeland! It was the dal khalsa which had made that demand in 1978! Coincidently the dal khalsas birth was at Chandigarh Its founder was None other than Congress I Giani Zail Singh (Indian president)

a lot of dirty politics!

Sant Ji was simply the head of Damdami Taksaal and Jathedar of Akhal Takhat! All he wished for was implementation of Anandpur Sahib Res with Justice for taksali Shaheeds at Chowk Mehta

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 well th question of "real and fake" seems interchangeable in "dieing for sikhi"!!! half of these Khalistani Internet Sites show pictures of Amritdhari Singhs in Big Dammaleh with Ak 47s!

However During the 1990s I attended Gurdwara Holy Bones Leicester UK! they kept an accurate data record of over 5000 Shaheed profiles! I Counted around 1 third of the Shaheed Profiles were Monai, with cut hair, and cut beards!

So why r Internet Sites wrong propaganda?

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 the question of real and fake takes many turns!

Exactly how was Jathedar Talwinder Singh Parmar of Babbar Khalsa Killed?? right in the heat of it!! How is it that the akhand kirtani jatha planted their own Jathedar in as successor? and How did this Successor live to this day with not a scratch? How did AKJ Panchain go back on their political demands?

The politics within the khadku dhere were simply dirty! There is no Khalsa (Pure) blotless image of thse chaudhars!

[twistedwest1]

@Vasco1701 what i was trying to say there were those who faught for punjabs freedom and for the better of sikhi and those who did stuff for there own political gain

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 2 phases! 1) Early movement 2)latter!

1)Simple honest folk flocked to the call of Sant Bhindrawale who had paid with his life! At that time of severe hardship deprived of rights, those simple folk laid their lives down!.

2)Criminal elements along with fanatics (BK Kholi beheading) involved in latter stage who had misdirected and evolved wrong way! Dark element capitalists thought "we can make money by watching Innocents get killed" and collected funds that soon dissapeared!

[Vasco1701]

@twistedwest1 3) the simple honest folk who stayed in the movement to the latter struggle! Realised that the Capitalists Fundraisers in the West were setting up camp in Gurdwaras Casually in Canada and Uk. becoming overnight millionaires to then dissapear for 2 3 years ! Yet the conditions in Punjab were getting worse!

4) The movement came to a grinding halt!

5) However Western based khalistan orgs severely let down Punjabis and sat as paper tigers by this phase mid 1990s

[Vasco1701]

5) finally the conclusion Western based khalistanis began to change their rhetoric from an outright struggle to winning the hearts of kids in the West when they lost moral support from Punjabis in Uk canadian gurdwaras!

6) One by One each leader defected back SOhan Dhillon Chauhan Zaffarwal!

Sukhbir Singh OSsan delivered an article that exposed a Uk Based khalistani newspaper had suddenly gone to delhi for business investment in 1997!

[Vasco1701]

Punjab never short of Menfolk willing to die for a cause!

Issue at grassroots in 1980s seemed to be simple Punjabis were fighting for their right! not against hindus!

But Western based khalistanis turned that struggle into Rhetoric to benefit Groups/Tribal politics in Uk canada! a complete mish mash opposite

Punjabis inspired by Western Sikhs, risked lives, hoping Outside Sikhs would raise their profile on platform hoping World will 1 day understand their struggle

insted deadly cycle!

[Vasco1701]

khalistani politics seemed like a perfect answer in a world full of corruption on outside of it!

by 1990s it turned so negative ruthless that there were entire families wiped out

Folks elderly Mums Dads without a SOn to provide for them sought help

expecting sympathy from fellow Punjabis! They was by now nothing!

That is why all these khalistanis like Sohan Chauhan got Lakhs of Singhs killed at their Order

But they never went to the doorstep of One Mother who lost Her Son!

[Vasco1701]

dont be disheartened! A lot of honest simple folk died !!!

the puppet masters in the middle of the chain got told by their superiors "End game" by early to mid 90s! suddenly the language changed!

thats how the defections began!

[Vasco1701]

@MrPeaceplz Indira Ghandi ran Her Chit Thru Giani Zail Singh ( Her EMployee President of India) He had power to Vetoe but chose not to!

By 1983 Indira Ghandi had fully bought out the Akali Dal Leadership as she and them had stage managed a few showdowns ending in stalemate! Longowal had made 2 attempts at Bhindrawales life inside Golden Temple by getting his food poisoned (Source Ar Darshi Gallant Defender)

Whereas the Akali Morchas in the 70s were her direct Opposition! 

[Vasco1701]

the third attempt at Bhindrawales life inside Darbar Sahib came from the Babbar Khalsa Gunmen trying to take Him out in a heated exchange!

The BK coincidently at that time were aligned to Akali Dal and were unaware of Akalis connection to the Centre Delhi

[Vasco1701]

@MrPeaceplz Bhindrawales Own Biological Brother was an Indian Army Captain at the time of the Op BS!

It was Thru Bhindrawales Own Brother That BJP Candidate Rajinder Puri met Bhindrawale and hammered out a peaceful settlement put forward to Rajiv Ghandi in May 1984!

Meaning The Indian Army and BJP had access to Bhindrawale all the time! Then WHy did Indira Ghandi have Thousands of pilgrims killed?

Simply To Avenge Her Political Dishonour dating back to her Imposed 1970s Emergency

[MrPeaceplz]

khalistan is a tool created by pakistan to divide india in the name of religion hindus and sikhs are living peacefully for centuries until this man named bhindranwale came and things get messed up. Hindus and sikhs have been living like brothers and respects each other religions with pride and honor. Read history even guru nanak ji will feel ashamed now for both hindus and sikhs fighting each other.Sikhs are the greatest warriors who had protected our culture from the west invaders.

[SikhLions]

U are a joke, stop sprouting crap from ur mouth. ''THIS MAN'' this aint no monkey god your talking about. SANT JARNIAL SINGH JI BINDRAWALE was a LION. Respect him as a man who stood up 4 equality & protects his religion from increased hindu attempts to dilute it form india & integrate it with hinduism just because hindus feel ashamed & not gratefull for what the sikhs did in moghul times & their religion. You thank us by attacking our sacred temple & murdering thousands. BINDRAWALE IS A SAINT.

[saragarhi2009]

@MrPeaceplz yes guru nanak ji sure feel ashamed but not pakistan if you search a Sikhs vedion in youtube you will find 100 video of khalistan and only 20 video Sikhs gurus include guru nanak ji

[amitaabh111]

hei s no saint. he is bandarwala. he was a baaandar.

[Vasco1701]

@amitaabh111 indira ghandi was the bigger baandar for giving 90 000 Jihadi Pakistani Pows Bak to Pak after they massacred Hindu Bengalis in Bangladesh! She Sat by Idly when Millions of Talibanised Bengalis illegally entered India! Indra gave away Half of Kashmir 2 Pakistan in Simla Agreement, and 3800 SQ KM of land captured from pakistan after Pakistan Invaded India killing Indians! Indras Father enshrined Sharia Family Law into Indian Constituition!

[amy3021]

Hero Of 20 th Centuru "" BHINDRANWAALE""

[psagar]

look at my previous posts, i have put together a rather coherent argument. i'm not trying to run, you haven't asked for an argument, just a fight. i just commented that you're a dumb fuck. i think that's at least ONE solid hard fact.,

[psagar]

umm...I don't know how to reply to you. You probably have like 2 brain cells. Wow, I'm just surprised at how dumb ppl can be. Well done! I really hope your genes don't pollute the gene pool.

[militant84warrior]

this guy is a wastemna , fukin nob

[84WAKEUP]

time is always less in such interviews

n why could they not send police 100,000 army was a must to arrest 1 man com on injustice is never given for indra ghandi to stay in her status n posution she could do any thing anythinG

[psagar]

I'm frustrated at everyone's stupidity and their distinct lack of articulation in replies. Im not glad ppl died in bluestar, but 2clarify, I side with the principles of th other side, that it was NECESSARY 4 it to happen. They didn't die for 'no mothafuckin reason'. Listen to what bhindrawala was saying in his speeches, its so much tripe. These are simply ego issues, and what teachins of his were really so great that he started considerin himself a guru? Yet u call Guru Ravidass a 'bhagat'.

[TheCheemajatt]

Mr. pssagar, You are a frustated person.You forget the teachings of Bhagat Ravidas. These teachings are mentioned by our gurus.please leave all low level thinkings and follow good things.

[manjot86]

Psagar stop getting mad that we killed ur fake sants. Haha. Yah cant do nothing about it.

[RAJBIR44]

psagar ur such an asshole,or a shit person on the earth

[psagar]

What is wrong with all you khalistani dickheads? All this isnt abt Khalistan its abt the arrogant fuckwits who r willing 2 divide our country 4the sake of their misplaced pride& stupid religions. I abhorr you. Really. Jattvad ne sale ne maar lia. I'm a chamar, its not like punjabis like me get any say in the 'debate'. They'll still be treated like crap. Jst luk @ wht hapnd2BallaWale. Im glad Bluestar happened. Im so glad 2have grown up in INDIA &not a retardedly religiously defined nation.

[outlawz30]

ur glad bluestar happened? ur glad that alot of innocent sikhs were killed for no mothafukin reason?..kid, shyt like that u might wanna keep to ur self, cause if u walk around talkin shyt like that to the wrong guy, i gurantee you'll get ur ass buried 8 fukin feet under.

[jollyhiin]

im def one of those ppl whos gonna fk ur happiness

[psagar]

go on.

[Gurchela12]

lets first save the punjab from the corrupt punjabi population and throw light on what's happening today in Punjab especially among the younger croud. It's not the same..I heard Bhindrawala's speech and he said "Sikhan diyan kudiyan nu nanga karke ghumaya jaanda par hinduan di nu nahi" bt today kudian munde aape hi nange hunde firde ne, te oh v kise de v sahmne..don't u think we need to "improve" ourselves before we can demand anything..youth is turnin into those ppl from whom we want to divide

[montymanu002]

ah kutta ki khe reha he, bhindrawale is a congressi. shit men.

khalistan zindabaad

sant ji zindabaad

[jatti994]

(continued) then we could just end up being a poor country..like india aint poor enough already even thou we aint dat poor but still.....just think fer once about others...

[hschahal1]

we need to get a seprate a homeland/country as hindu's r not accepting us as there brother's....till today our marriage's are defined as hindu in constitution but in other country's where sikh's r more in number i.e u.k has developed seprate marriage act for sikh's

[jatti994]

i see ur point too but try looking at this the way i am....we dont need a seprate homeland or country...

[Khalistani1995]

Um.....jatti994, SIKHS NEED KHALISTAN IN ORDER TO HAVE FREEDOM. Sant Bhindranwale said that he wanted Sikhs to stay with India, but he wanted sikhs to have equal rights. India told him that this is a hindu country, u and ur sikhs can just Fuck off. In India it was LEGAL to kill a Sikh. Sikhs have NO identity in India.

NOW DO U NOW WHY WE NEED KHALISTAN??

[jatti994]

.u need a heart to understand what im sayin..just think about all the innocent ppl that will get split from their families becuz of this dumb idea..and why split india..punjab is a part of hindustan/india..what are you gunna get from it besides setting a whole new army, government, etc is a hard difficult thing its not sumthing you could do overnite...it doesnt matter if we are sardars or not we are ppl/humans...

[MrJatt186]

it's called ambition, will power, and being a proud sikh. not a faggot half inbred shithead who is happy with shit no matter how bad they get. punjab always has been a separate kingdom. we need to rise up and take back our homeland. we punjabi's should be controlling our own land not fukin majority of india (non-punjabi's). we have been divided and fuked over too many times by this indian government for us to forgive them.

[virkmanpreetsingh]

anybody from your family died in 1984 yes or no .but people who died in 1984 they were all my brothers/sisters.we didn,t get our seprate nation cause there were some people{like you} who didn,t care of millions people who give their lives for khalsa.

[PreetoKaur]

Republic of Punjab ....

Khalistan zindabad !

[007rapz]

the world is our khalistan

[deadly7000]

Kuthi Indria kuthiii machoooddeee

RAJ KAREGA KHALSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[psagar]

Btw, just so you know raj kare ga khalsa does not mean world domination by sikhism. It infact pertains to the KHALAS, the Pure, the truth. So Raj karega khalsa doesn't have to mean dominion over earth. Its simply indicates that ultimately purity will win out, whether it be on earth, or in ur heart. the latter seems more likely.

[jahangirhamd]

indra gandi zindabad sikh maa chood

[babrssf]

Sant jarnail singh jee bhindrawale zindabad. khalistan zindabad . we fight till our home land .... khalistan .  khalistan zindabad. kuti indria , kuti indra . bhanchod .. R ss . wale jansang wale. rss need to ban in india , BJB is a terrorist party ,

[naving8]

india is having many religion it doest means each religion want its separate country

[sagstag]

All the religons in the world they have their own homeland,the one they call their MOTHER LAND,why not SIKHS! THey should have their own too and KHALISTAN would be the best bet.

[kurlighaint]

Introspect your logic, is that sufficient reason to have a seperate country. Is problem the country? or the set of people running the country?. Will it make a difference if you again elect, Badal like politicians in Khalistan? I think what we need is fair, unbiased and visionary ppl in right places.

[LegallyDesi]

yeah, why shud my country be called hindustan. Hindu'aan da stan? Hell no..

[jatti994]

legallydesi we are called hindustan cuz we were all hindus before guru ji made us into sikhs.. u get it..

[LegallyDesi]

I know that bhaji. So either they should accept sikhs or let us have our own state,..

[jatti994]

first of all im a gurl kk get dat straight.

second of all badd idea..just think wat if all the cast in india one day decide dat we need separate countries for all cast in india what are u gunna say yes its a guud idea or no?.. thats just like cutting ur mom into pieces obviously you aint gunna understand so who am i tryin to explain.

[LegallyDesi]

proved urself a jatt, way to go. yiiks

ttyn

[jatti994]

i would prove it unlike u who aint even one :) i get da part where dey shud accept sikhs but not the other part...

[MADMuhamMAD]

Kaiyer-Nail 'Soor' Bhanggah-wali, was an ISI agent. He didnt care about Sikhi or Sikhs. May he always be reborn as a dog which guards mosques in Pakistan. Damn gaddar!

[DesiiParii]

Khalistan Zindabad!

[KaranjitSinghKhalsa]

very good u r right if u r a true 1 ight 4 khalistan then i belive u