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  • You are wrong, the Butlerian JIhad was fuckin' overrated.

  • may the god be with us

  • THIS IS THE BEST SCI-FI EVER

  • "Duncan!"

    "Paul. I was just on my way to say goodbye to you. I have to go on ahead alone. I won't be seeing you for awhile."

    "Wish you were coming with us, why?"

    "I'm growing potatoes."

  • @jojospider1

    Worst comment ever.

  • @jojospider1= No, The Adventures of Pluto Nash is.

  • @jojospider1 Whooops, someone is lacking the mental capabilities to grasp the sense of this movie. Too bad. NOT.

  • I have one of those training devices in my basement.

  • Make the range 2 metres!

  • I don't remember a crappy robot battle in the book....

  • @sobermessiah Instead, there is a training puppet remote controlled by Gurney Halleck.

  • @sobermessiah

    That would make sense given that this is the film and not the book, or did the moving pictures confuse you?

  • @sobermessiah= True. The rbot technically violates the laws against thinking machines. Then again, the President of the United States drank booze during Prohibition.

  • @vigo894: The 'robot' can't think; it's a practice dummy, and the idea for it comes straight from the novel's first chapter. Therefore, it doesn't violate the Butlerian Jihad.

  • A Classic Movie-but you cant even find it in stores anymore-I wish the Studio would give Youtube permission to put the entire movie on Youtube-Maybe we need to start a letter writing campaign to the Studio-there's 43 thousand of you out there who have watched this segment-wouldn't you all like to see the whole thing here-let's do this.

  • @dreyxxyz Try Netflix.

  • @dreyxxyz Found mine on blue ray at wally world.

  • @dreyxxyz I'd be down w/that. Did you try already (I see your post is 9 months old.)? This is absolutely, no doubt, one of my all time FAVORITE films; the movie that finally allowed David Lynch to realize the depth of his talent; & he viewed his film, DUNE, filled with sheer incredible awesomeness...."EYE (I) DID THAT????EYE AM THE f**KING KING OF THE WORLD! & those of us in the know around the world gave a collective shout out..."THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!

  • Man, did Patrick Stewart EVER have hair?

  • @AstralShine Naw, Patrick Stewart came out of the womb bald and at age 65, and he's looked the same ever since =)

  • @AstralShine He lost his hair in his early twenties.

  • patrick stewart woooo

  • Paul Atreides was 11 years old when they moved to Arrakis.

  • @dkerris I thought that when they moved, Paul was 15 and small for his age.

  • @ponyboy314 Yep he was 15

  • @dkerris 15.

  • chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa­aaa-ZAH!

  • Jurgen Prochnow!

  • I had watched the movie when it came out back in the 80s, and because I had not read the books, I had to watch it a couple of times before I got the story right ;-) ...had it on VCR-video, too. Kyle MacLachlan was and is the Paul Atreides No. 1

  • This is and will forever be the one and only version of Dune on film.

  • hell yea.. megatron

  • I tried watching this movie with all the scenes featuring Feyd removed. I thought it would take the sting out of the tale.

  • @Rhubba

    *rimshot*

  • The ideal cast, amazing art direction...truncated movie.

  • @Rhubba i will agree it is very much a truncated movie but kyle duffus machlachlan was ATTROCIOUS as paul. the mini series version was much better with alec newman as paul everyone else was GREAT!

  • @SocratesTheGadfly Alec Newman was very good and other than Ian McNeice as Baron Harkonnen the rest of the mini series cast were pretty ropey.

  • @Rhubba I must respectfully disagree. William Hurt brought dignity to the character of Duke Lito Atreides, Jurgen Prochnow in some scenes was nearly hysterically angry and out of control. The rest of the cast in the mini-series did an outstanding job including the emperor, granted he was NO Mel Ferrer but Giancarlo Giannni did a superb job. Saskia Reeves was a much better Lady Jessica than Francesca Annis.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly I thought William Hurt sleepwalked through his role.

  • @Rhubba well that is your opinion but kyle machlachland was ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS in the 1984 version

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    Who, the boy-band refugee? He was intolerable. Bad tempered and whiny, all the time looking like he's irked at missing football practice.

  • @textthing yes, that be kyle maclachland. he was HORRIFIC in this movie. every other actor was well cast but they messed up big time with paul atreides. the mini series version with Alec Newman was much better.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    From what I've seen of the series, the actor they cast for Paul was uncharismatic and dull. In the shield fighting scene he flies into a tantrum and storms out. The main impression he gives is that of a whiny puss.

  • @textthing then you must be watching a completely different version from what i saw. the actor Alec Newman was infinitely BETTER than that duffous kyla machlachland who was COMPLETELY miscast as the character Paul Atreides

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    Nope, it was definitely the right one. Uncharismatic, boring, whiny - boy-band refugee, is what occurred to me.

  • @textthing respectfully i must disagree, kyle machlachland just cannot act and is absolutely horrendous and atrocious as paul atreides. mr machlachland reminds me of a high school dropout trying to peddle fake dogshit door to door.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    Oh come on. He may be a little stiff from time to time, but he's certainly not as bad as you make him out to be.

  • @textthing actually I am being TAME and RESERVED because I remember when this movie premiered, my friends and I had high hopes but left the theater sadly disappointed. part of the problem was the double duffous director david lynch who BOTCHED this movie. however, when you throw in machlachland it just gets worse!

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    Well, I'm not a Dune fanboy, so I find this quite entertaining, particularly the fact that so much of it is so over the top. People really tend to take space fantasy too seriously. That's why Star Wars is inexplicably held to be, even now, somehow a good movie, when it's just a silly escapist kids' film. I think it's the relentless po-faced portentousness of Dune that I find so enjoyable, and Kyle Maclachlan's relentless earnestness seems to fit it so well.

  • @textthing if you actually READ the book as written by Frank Herbert the character Paul Atreides is quite different from how it was portrayed by david lynch and kyle machlachland. the book was BUTCHERED when the script was written for this movie. i will not even comment on star wars except that it made it PROFITABLE to make other movies such as Dune from books.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    But I really don't get the idea that a film version of a book, especially when the film states that it was BASED on a book, should be a faithful and literal rendering of every detail of the book. A film is quite a different thing from a book, and to attempt to simply reproduce it is likely to result in something not only bad in itself but very boring - take Kurosawa's The Idiot, for example. A film should exist as and for itself, not as something meant to please fans.

  • @textthing I did NOT say that a LITERAL interpretation of the book was necessary. Only that the manner in which kyle machlachland portrays Paul Atreides is absolutely horrendous and is the WORST interpretation of any character that I have ever seen portrayed in a film. and YES, I am aware that a great many other things were changed from the book to the film, some good and some bad, and the bad things are DIRECTLY attributable to the duffous director david lynch, movies are made for MONEY!

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    Umm, ok.

  • @textthing besides when this movie was being made in the early 1980s there were a great many fans of the book who were extremely interested in how this movie would be portrayed on film. my teenage friends and I were included among them and frankly we were disappointed due to the changes made and some of the acting as well as the portrayal of Paul Atreides. further, the movie appears to be stilted and seemingly incongruous in many parts and especially the theatrical version.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    I have no doubt that were I a devotee of the book I might be annoyed if some of the aspects I particularly enjoyed were changed; I don't disagree with you there. And I also agree that the film is a bit of a train wreck - it's probably not a book that can really be brought convincingly or compellingly to film anyway. The idea of seeing one's favourite moments realised in live action may be tantalising, but they're never going to be quite what they seemed in imagination.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    In what way was the character in the book different to how Kyle Maclachland's portrayal?

  • @WatchRyder kyle machlachland just ABSOLUTELY CANNOT ACT. his alloofness, his imaturity as an actor and his inability to EVEN ACT is absolutely attrocious in this film. they really needed to cast someone who had a better or even a remote sense of insightfulness to capture the essence of Paul Atreides as he is depicted in the books. Alec Newman did a much better job portraying that innocence turned leader and charismatic ethos that was Paul Atreides.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly I thought Alec Newman, at least in the first part of the mini had Paul act like a total spoiled brat and I really din't see the innocence only sullen insolence. While KM wasn't awesome, he did a good job. Especially on Arrakis. I liked both the movie and the series but my heart belongs with the books. And not any of that crap that BH/KA wrote.

  • @weezie422 I agree with you in that my heart belongs with the original books that Frank Herbert wrote also and I am just now getting into the books that his son Brian Herbert has written. the essential problem is that the books are so detailed and complicated that ANY representation through alternative media ( ie movie, mini series, television ) is NOT going to be adequate. I thought the david dufous lynch version was horrible with kyle maclachland and Paul should have been RECAST.

  • @weezie422 additionally I thought that the mini series version was a much closer visual representation of the book than the movie version could ever have been. that being said the mini series version does have its flaws but I must disagree with you in that alec newman did a much better role of acting the part of Paul Atreides than kyle maclachland could EVER have done. the remainder of the cast of the mini series did a very good job in my opinion just as the other cast members of the movie did.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly Alec Newman is a total wimp! He was horrible as Paul. Well he would be horrible as anything as he is a really shitty actor.

  • Duke Leto was indeed wise!

  • omfg patrick stewart!

  • I just expect Patrick Stewart to shout out "MAKE IT SO !!!" at any minute lol !

  • I agree ... Dune very much underrated.

  • That Thufir looks a little like Brezhnev.

  • I'm pretty sure the fighting dummy is purely mechanical.

  • This movie is underrated.

  • Underrated 1000 times over. I consider this a cinematic classic.

  • @hivelocity100

    In a way, yes... I've always called this version of Dune 'a half-baked Thanksgiving feast'. It's a very well-engineered train wreck: individual scenes are brilliant, most of the actors hit the part perfectly, many of the sets are amazing... but the narrative, the story, the script, and many of the effects almost seem designed to derail all that effort.

  • @FiverBeyond Beats the the newest star wars movies..

  • @PuNkDzZz

    Tru dat.

  • @AspiringPotato And people these days still don't understand this movie

  • wow has patrick stewart ALWAYS had grey hair?

  • david lynch only puts his name on the cut down version,they had to put a fake name on the extended version.alan smithee

  • Man Paul kicks butt!

  • The bull's head could have been a little longer in view...

  • @EinFremderAusElea You actually see it?!? Damn, I've never managed to find it before: will have to watch yet again!

  • 1:38 Precise control...

  • the activated fighter unit is also meant to be illegal, due to in millenia b4 this setting ,mankind made ai robots too smart and they ending up enslaving the universe, film work of genius in its look but would have liked more of the back story to have been revealed, hope they make a film how this society is at it is

  • i know all the recent dearth of dune universe novels were not written by frank herbert himself but they claim to have used his extensive notes, but of that i am dubious, but the training machine is meant to be a modified battle mechanoid from when the robots ruled, omnius and the butlerian jihad uprising. it would have been a better scene if this spinning pole with weapons was in fact a sentient fighting machine with the ability to move about. imao

  • good point...pesonally I loved the books that told us how "we" got to this point. Peace be with

  • There seems to extra bits in this that i haven't seen before, is this the uncut version?

  • I love that line, "Without change, something sleeps inside us and seldom awakens...the sleeper must awaken."

    -Duke Leto Atreides

  • @Th3ba1r0n thats on my favorite quote list

  • @Th3ba1r0n

    To bad that the majority of the change that we see in reality is so overrated.

  • Why the hell was this movie so cut down? The theatrical cut is a damn mess.

  • Because it was over 3 hours long.

  • yeah, lol, my mom saw it back in then. She said it was WAY to long! Though she did like it.

  • fuck you with your mommy

  • umm, okay? anyways, when's the last time you saw a movie that was like five hours long while still at the theater?

  • avatar is over 2 1/2 hours long

  • are you serious? Damn...was it good?

  • That's no reason :-) I'd rather have a brilliant movie than a short one :-)

  • this movie was epic! and House atriedes kicks major ass!!

  • they were bred to kick ass! It's a BAD ASS BLOOD LINE!

  • Jurgen Prochnow really cool this man

  • I love this films score...

  • Just being fair to Lynch.

    I liked his version, it was a nice conception of what a film version could have been. The problem was most people didnt read the book and had no idea what the hell was going on when they saw it.

  • yeah i know i didn't

  • actualy , if you watch the full david lynch DUNE its over 4hours long and it explains so much more than this version. Iv only seen it on television once and i recorded it on VHS a long ass time ago you cant buy it in stores and i dont know where to find it. The extended DUNE you can buy in stores is NOT the 4+hour version as many argue. But you are right, if you havnt read the book(s) your just lost , the story is way to deep.

  • I would love to see that. Maybe they will put it on blue ray one day. but i doubt it.

  • yes it even shows the baby worms and how they get the Bile from them.

  • I would really love to see that!!!!!

  • @ExoneratedUndead I remember watching an extended edition on TV way back and I loved having more elements in it, like Gurney playing his baliset, and the Fremen mark of respect to Duke Leto by "waisting his water" in a spit. Hopefully, it was the 4 hours long version you speak of: I remember loving it in any case.

    On the extended DVD edition, I found many of those supplemental info, but the editing was... aweful! I had to brace myself to watch it 'til the end and vowed never to again!

  • @HouseofAtreus01 Fortunatly, I did understand when I watched it as a young teen. It's what made me go for the books (my dad already owning the entire series). I love both books and movie for different reasons, and the info in the books indeed allowed me to appreciate some of the movie elements a lot more (especially the Missionaria Protectiva branch of the Ben Gesserit, explaining what the Hell a reverend mother was doing with the Fremen! lol).

  • I heard that all the costumes and sets that Paramount had leftover from this film were recycled on the Star Trek TNG show as the Borg since this was such a flop on the screen

  • Now that you mention it, David Lynch Stillsuits *DO* look familiar when Picard was wearing one in TNG...

  • True that im thinking the same thing!

  • Flop!! Dune is pure GENIUS .. the general public @ that time was as retarded then as it is now -_-

  • I wasn't saying the movie wasn't good, I liked the film, just that it was a finacial flop when it was released in theaters

  • i think you ought to elaborate, I thought" financial flop" meant that even though it is sooooo good few people watched it? if that is the case them It's still disappointing -_-

  • Dune is an 80's classic. An awesome movie!

  • The sets used in this movie are some of the most elaborate I have ever seen

  • Long live the duke!

  • Yeah I thought it was new material, all added bits compliment the film.

    A shame they didn't make more dune films.

    But sci-fi films maybe didn't take off in the 1980s like the should of.

  • This is the only video segment that works (that will play on you tube) from the beginning?

  • All the little touches that were cut really deepen the film, the extended conversation between Paul and Yueh, the extended combat sequence with Halleck commenting on Jessica's influence over her son.

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