after 2 weeks of restarting this BRILLIANT game 3 times because i missed some characters and i finally get to this scene...after i thought i'd finally get elza..... :(
What happens after you complete this quest? do you get any item? I NEVER was able to complete it. Every time I tried I would be late and just for a small amount of time. I really didn't want to find out what happens by having to watch on youtube, but I really didn't have the patience to try it again.
Would have been better if Elza had been one of the 108 Stars Of Destiny...If she was usable Her and Clive would have probably had an amazing unite attack.
It's very clear that after laughing at Clive for believing her story, Elza shoots in the air with the white Mond gun, proving that it actually had bullets and that her story was just a hoax.
It takes a lot of thinking to create a multi threading story that intertwines with one another through politics, hands down to the story board director of Suikoden series.
Thanks for uploading it. :D I usually take time when playing games so I'm quite doubtful about being able to finish this quest. XD Suikoden II is truly one amazing game. :D
so after she's shot she gives that story about one gun being unloaded, and clive buys it. but then she says it was a lie and to prove it she shoots her gun. so what's the real story?
@jlk2100 I guess that she loved him and couldn't bring herself to shoot him. She mentioned that at one point they "were more than friends." Just a random guess, since the translation is only so-so
Riou is the main characters name huh........very nice i like it...before mine was Erion.....then my sister was Gavin....then i played it couple more times then named him Kai....hehe =b
@Romupaasi Brilliant? Come on. Suikoden 2 is a subpar game. The music isnt anything special, the character development is plain horrible (with some exceptions such as Shu, Nanami, and Jowy). The story is way too short, not to mention predictable, and a majority of all the characters are just placed in the game for the sake of having 108 stars of destiny. Don't get me wrong, SUikoden 2 is def a favorite due to the battle system and graphics, but to call it brilliant is giving too much credit.
@michelrpg subpar? oh right, that's why it is consistently a fan favorite and rated as one of the best rpgs to date and why copies sell for over a $100. This game was not only excellently crafted for it's time of release but I played it just today and still enjoy it. Critics are always stuck up over their opinions of media and ratings from them can seldom be trusted. If you look at the ratings given by people who play games for fun not a job then you can clearly see, this game is great.
@Judg3m3nt there's no reason to act so defensive about this. I said it was a good game. I just wouldn't call it "brilliant" because it has way too many flaws in it, and the story is just very predictable. The battle system is definitely worth playing the game for, and the graphics are very nicely done too.
And people who play games for fun will never have an opinion that is an indicator to play a game they like or dislike, simply because it isnt objective. State the good WITH the bad. Simple.
@TheWalrusface Well I didn't expect it so sudden, true. But I did expect the battle against jowy to take place at the end. The only real unexpected part of this game was the final battle. It seemed so... sudden? I felt the game was suddenly forced to reach an ending like that :<
@michelrpg Of course you expected the battle against Jowy at the end. Fuck did you think was going to happen? That's like saying you expected Cloud to fight Sephiroth at the end of Final Fantasy whatever. Just. Noooooooooooo really?
@michelrpg You actually didn't say it was "a good game" all you did was insult it using words like horrible and sub par. I don't know why you have these negative feelings towards it but they don't seem to stem from simple logic. The storyline? every game at that time was hashing out the same thing and unique and new stories have been rare since the sega. The battle system was a typical rpg one but it did it well, characters were well fleshed out and the artwork/music were well done.
characters were well fleshed out? We'll have to agree to disagree on that. While I admit, a few of the main characters (jowie, Nanami, Flik) have at least some degree of personality and history, a large part of the cast just joins because "fuck it, my life was boring anyway". Now with 118 stars its impossible to flesh them all out, but it wouldnt have killed the producers to give them at least a decent purpose. I have no negative feelings for this game, I just don't think it's THAT amazing
@michelrpg You obviously didn't do the side quests for most characters, use the detective to find out about them or play the other games where they reappear. The game gave plenty of depth to the characters, now obviously some of them got little more than the introductory info but with nearly a gross of characters they were in depth on over half and that is plenty. Most rpgs don't reveal as much about their main characters as Suikoden did about Clive, who isn't even a major character of the game.
@Judg3m3nt It takes ten minutes to gain 1 piece of info, with there being 5 pieces for each. 108 characters x 5 pieces of info = 540 pieces of info. 540 x 10 minutes = 5400 minutes, or 90 HOURS.
No game is worth spending 90 hours on for five tidbits of info. I said some characters had a good deal of personality and story, but half of them were just (useless) fodder.
I dont get why some of you are getting SO worked up. I said it's a decent rpg, just not fantastic. Nothing wrong with that.
@michelrpg I am getting worked up because you, one, obviously did not play all of the game and criticized it as lacking anyway and two you keep flip flopping your argument over whether you think it is a good game or not and people who can't stick with one opinion piss me off.
@Judg3m3nt Its not my fault you suffer from selective memory. I said it's an okay game, a decent game, with some good story, and some good characters, but that the music wasnt memorable and that there was a bit of an overload on random fodder characters thrown in. I played the entire game with all sidequests done and every possible character combination. My final opinion of the game is that it's an rpg worth playing, just -NOT THE BEST FUCKING RPG EVER-. You can take that and shove it.
@michelrpg Look who is "getting SO worked up" now. If you had done all of that then you should have had time for the detective. I never said it was the best either, rather, that you give it much less credit than it is due and if you were upset about the characters, maybe you should have watched the animated series or played the other games for them to elaborate (it IS a series after all) I will have to pass on the shoving, though I am flattered, I don't swing that way.
If you get to Lakewest and the innkeeper says he held on to the letter for so long that he eventually threw it away, then you can't continue the quest.
I think if you really run, even though you lost a part of the quest you might still catch with it later, only without the subtle hints of where to go next.
The side quest wasn't meant for first time players. But I don't see how you couldn't do it and get all 108 characters in under 20 unless you like to item hunt. I think I've gotten to Sajah in 12. But yeah, this was the best sidequest in S2, edging out Iron Chef just a bit because this was more touching.
i didn't make this part T_T basically i liked to spend lots of time so bye bye clive quest aw T_T hope to get to make it someday without losing time that's it lol
yeah in fact, impossibile to finish the game in 20 hours like there are lots of things to do and in 20 hours it would be like speedy gonzales instead of enjoying it.. at least they should choosen 30 hours or 35..
It says he buries Elza, then... I forget what the other part was. Returning to Harmonia and the Guild, I think, but I might be confusing it with what it says if you DON'T do this side quest.
I believe he becomes the Guildmaster after the war.
Kelley was to become the guildmaster but since Storm chose Elza and she won the duel she became the guildmaster. She ran away and now that Clive has killed her he is the new leader.
Sad story. I never got to see it until now. Thanks. =)
thanks for uploading this! I didn't even try doing Clive's quest because rushing doesn't suit my style of playing at all. At least now I got to watch it...
There's a time limit, actually - you have to have gotten the previous encounters and then get to Sajah Village in under 20 hours. All the other encounters have pretty simple time requirements, if I remember right, but this area doesn't open up until you get to the last dungeon, so it's a bit complicated.
I don't know - I've never owned a gameshark, and I certainly wouldn't need to buy one for this - it's not that hard if you've already played through the game once or twice (or if, like some people I know, you're using an FAQ).
Thanks so much for putting this up. I haven't played Suikoden II in like five or six years and could never see Clive's quest cause I couldn't get Eliza's letter in time. Again, thanks so much for this.
*Sniff* I don't like this ending, I liked Elza. Is this really cannon? *Goes and cries*
Redheero 1 month ago
Took me over 21 hours to complete the quest and I saw the ending.
Johnnyjueves 3 months ago
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"howling voice, shadow upon the ground"
"howling voice, flash of thunder from the gods"
"cursed voice that separates life from death"
"right here, right now, these guns want to shed blood"
"they want to feast on souls"
"listen you cursed guns"
"we are it"
"the final blast to signal war!!!!"
"CLIVE"
"no hesitation!!!!"
xeffas 5 months ago
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xeffas 5 months ago
Kinda looks like the scene from Metal Gear Solid when you beat Sniper Wolf in the Snowfield
LordKaiserRSC 5 months ago
Look I don't mean to be a bitch but Clive is freaking high-maintenance! Is he any good!?!
NoelCasumpang 6 months ago
so sad :( trully an extraordinary game
mangudinx 6 months ago
after 2 weeks of restarting this BRILLIANT game 3 times because i missed some characters and i finally get to this scene...after i thought i'd finally get elza..... :(
clive ftw :)
tortsauce 8 months ago
Holy shit!, you actually see Clive's head and hair! LOL!
TheDarkHero5 11 months ago 10
What happens after you complete this quest? do you get any item? I NEVER was able to complete it. Every time I tried I would be late and just for a small amount of time. I really didn't want to find out what happens by having to watch on youtube, but I really didn't have the patience to try it again.
urameshiiiii 1 year ago
Would have been better if Elza had been one of the 108 Stars Of Destiny...If she was usable Her and Clive would have probably had an amazing unite attack.
highsohigh90 1 year ago
man that was pretty sad, thanks for the video. i could never speed through the game to do this.
bzerk1 1 year ago
It's very clear that after laughing at Clive for believing her story, Elza shoots in the air with the white Mond gun, proving that it actually had bullets and that her story was just a hoax.
drewzter0615 1 year ago
@drewzter0615 but all of the best lies contain an element of truth. Somewhere in her lies was some truth and I would really like to know what it was.
Judg3m3nt 1 year ago
It takes a lot of thinking to create a multi threading story that intertwines with one another through politics, hands down to the story board director of Suikoden series.
DaemonRiku 1 year ago
man this game is brilliant....
final909 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading it. :D I usually take time when playing games so I'm quite doubtful about being able to finish this quest. XD Suikoden II is truly one amazing game. :D
kharizma06 1 year ago
....to say this in ghetto terms: He capped that bitch good. Damn.
michelrpg 1 year ago
such a sad scene. Wish it was a real one on one duel instead of a scene
PirateHunterZoro200 1 year ago
Elza not JOIN? O.o!!!!! T_T Both work for nothing xD
Yagofer92 1 year ago
u get anything from that quest ?
pietrekpanH 1 year ago
Yeah, I wish they explained more of the story. I can't tell what exactly happened, but it was really cool.
BananaOrangeBerry 1 year ago
so after she's shot she gives that story about one gun being unloaded, and clive buys it. but then she says it was a lie and to prove it she shoots her gun. so what's the real story?
jlk2100 1 year ago
@jlk2100 I guess that she loved him and couldn't bring herself to shoot him. She mentioned that at one point they "were more than friends." Just a random guess, since the translation is only so-so
UNCrunfree 1 year ago
@UNCrunfree Semi-crap is more like it.
michelrpg 1 year ago
totally worth it, what does elza mean when she says " you did'nt really believe that sob story "? p;lease reply.
deltron121 1 year ago
the story of elza is so sad but I dont know if its real...*sob,sob*
Azulamozari 2 years ago
when your going to jowston hill, is that after it muse was saved or when jowy asked for a peace treaty?
09202741976 2 years ago
shit 24hours 1 minute damm
cybercutter37 2 years ago
Was Elza in the first game?
Teabonesteak 2 years ago
no, but she was mentioned. There is a grave in Rockland, and if you visit it with clive in your party a hidden scene is triggered
Klausete 2 years ago
I finished in 20 hours 15 minutes.. Can do it alot faster though but it aint no fun to rush it
grokor 2 years ago
do you get any items? or does it just something different at the end about clive?
macyoable 2 years ago
How do you get to Sajah village?
Trgamemas 2 years ago
it's at the end of the game after you defeat highland you gain access to it, hence why finishing this quest in 20 hours is pretty difficult.
Noah837 2 years ago
Okay thanks bud
Trgamemas 2 years ago
....Unicorn army, hmm?
LovelessSomei 2 years ago
WTF? is that all? I thaught that Elza will join.
KamykHS1989 2 years ago
Suik 2 is the best of the series...!
RefusedNotRejected 2 years ago 25
Wow! Didnt know about this sidequest even I played suikoden 2 for several times... thanks for uploading!
are there any other sidequest i probably do not know?
Gigolo500Dollar 2 years ago 2
wat's the time limit for this quest?
firefsp 3 years ago
20 hours
AmirKun 2 years ago
Riou is the main characters name huh........very nice i like it...before mine was Erion.....then my sister was Gavin....then i played it couple more times then named him Kai....hehe =b
hanakawaiichu 3 years ago
this is very touching :[
jannoelparedes 3 years ago 2
When Clive gave Elza the rifle it somewhat reminded me of Metal Gear Solid when Sniper Wolf wants her rifle
SolidMike84 3 years ago
Go to Cave of Wind when you've been able to gather your 100 tenkai stars warriors. Go to where you got the Star Dragon Sword
lezarthmj 3 years ago
The title "Tenkai" star is unique to the leader. :3
PikachuTheHedgehog 2 years ago 2
hey ... can any1 teLL me how to get pesmerga?? pLz pLz pLz...
arjay1806 3 years ago
good job!,best game ever!
kamiloo86 3 years ago
I went as far as Muse but couldn't go any further :( and I was so close :( First time to see this, thank you :)
rinalex28 3 years ago
after i go in muse elza said that she's in the sajah village and i go there together w/ clive but wat the hek happened elza didndt appear
koovitz14 3 years ago
clive and pesmerga my favorite chars, badass imo
pesmerga should also have had a side story, hunting down yuber :3
zerotwo1 3 years ago 2
That is actually a really good idea :-)
TheSeraphicRadiance 2 years ago
There is no game that can beat the brilliant storywriting of Suikoden II. All the side quests and dialogues..THE WHOLE GAME! Brilliant..
Romupaasi 3 years ago 40
@Romupaasi Brilliant? Come on. Suikoden 2 is a subpar game. The music isnt anything special, the character development is plain horrible (with some exceptions such as Shu, Nanami, and Jowy). The story is way too short, not to mention predictable, and a majority of all the characters are just placed in the game for the sake of having 108 stars of destiny. Don't get me wrong, SUikoden 2 is def a favorite due to the battle system and graphics, but to call it brilliant is giving too much credit.
michelrpg 1 year ago
@michelrpg subpar? oh right, that's why it is consistently a fan favorite and rated as one of the best rpgs to date and why copies sell for over a $100. This game was not only excellently crafted for it's time of release but I played it just today and still enjoy it. Critics are always stuck up over their opinions of media and ratings from them can seldom be trusted. If you look at the ratings given by people who play games for fun not a job then you can clearly see, this game is great.
Judg3m3nt 1 year ago
@Judg3m3nt there's no reason to act so defensive about this. I said it was a good game. I just wouldn't call it "brilliant" because it has way too many flaws in it, and the story is just very predictable. The battle system is definitely worth playing the game for, and the graphics are very nicely done too.
And people who play games for fun will never have an opinion that is an indicator to play a game they like or dislike, simply because it isnt objective. State the good WITH the bad. Simple.
michelrpg 1 year ago
@michelrpg Story isn't that predictable. I didn't predict the fact you were going to kill Luca Blight in the middle of the game.
TheWalrusface 1 year ago
@TheWalrusface Well I didn't expect it so sudden, true. But I did expect the battle against jowy to take place at the end. The only real unexpected part of this game was the final battle. It seemed so... sudden? I felt the game was suddenly forced to reach an ending like that :<
michelrpg 1 year ago
@michelrpg Of course you expected the battle against Jowy at the end. Fuck did you think was going to happen? That's like saying you expected Cloud to fight Sephiroth at the end of Final Fantasy whatever. Just. Noooooooooooo really?
TheWalrusface 1 year ago
@TheWalrusface Ya rly
michelrpg 1 year ago
@michelrpg You actually didn't say it was "a good game" all you did was insult it using words like horrible and sub par. I don't know why you have these negative feelings towards it but they don't seem to stem from simple logic. The storyline? every game at that time was hashing out the same thing and unique and new stories have been rare since the sega. The battle system was a typical rpg one but it did it well, characters were well fleshed out and the artwork/music were well done.
Judg3m3nt 1 year ago
characters were well fleshed out? We'll have to agree to disagree on that. While I admit, a few of the main characters (jowie, Nanami, Flik) have at least some degree of personality and history, a large part of the cast just joins because "fuck it, my life was boring anyway". Now with 118 stars its impossible to flesh them all out, but it wouldnt have killed the producers to give them at least a decent purpose. I have no negative feelings for this game, I just don't think it's THAT amazing
michelrpg 1 year ago
@michelrpg You obviously didn't do the side quests for most characters, use the detective to find out about them or play the other games where they reappear. The game gave plenty of depth to the characters, now obviously some of them got little more than the introductory info but with nearly a gross of characters they were in depth on over half and that is plenty. Most rpgs don't reveal as much about their main characters as Suikoden did about Clive, who isn't even a major character of the game.
Judg3m3nt 1 year ago
@Judg3m3nt It takes ten minutes to gain 1 piece of info, with there being 5 pieces for each. 108 characters x 5 pieces of info = 540 pieces of info. 540 x 10 minutes = 5400 minutes, or 90 HOURS.
No game is worth spending 90 hours on for five tidbits of info. I said some characters had a good deal of personality and story, but half of them were just (useless) fodder.
I dont get why some of you are getting SO worked up. I said it's a decent rpg, just not fantastic. Nothing wrong with that.
michelrpg 1 year ago
@michelrpg I am getting worked up because you, one, obviously did not play all of the game and criticized it as lacking anyway and two you keep flip flopping your argument over whether you think it is a good game or not and people who can't stick with one opinion piss me off.
Judg3m3nt 1 year ago
@Judg3m3nt Its not my fault you suffer from selective memory. I said it's an okay game, a decent game, with some good story, and some good characters, but that the music wasnt memorable and that there was a bit of an overload on random fodder characters thrown in. I played the entire game with all sidequests done and every possible character combination. My final opinion of the game is that it's an rpg worth playing, just -NOT THE BEST FUCKING RPG EVER-. You can take that and shove it.
michelrpg 1 year ago
@michelrpg Look who is "getting SO worked up" now. If you had done all of that then you should have had time for the detective. I never said it was the best either, rather, that you give it much less credit than it is due and if you were upset about the characters, maybe you should have watched the animated series or played the other games for them to elaborate (it IS a series after all) I will have to pass on the shoving, though I am flattered, I don't swing that way.
Judg3m3nt 1 year ago
I've come to see it again. Each time this vid moves me.
sblug2 3 years ago 3
Thanks a lot, i always lost the last meeting. Such a sad but great story :)
Pesmerga87 3 years ago
Hahaha, this quest is such a pain in places but I feel like something's missing now if I don't complete it every time I play the game. XD
...the ending to this quest was the only thing in the whole game that made me cry the first time I got it. T_T
ladyhrist 3 years ago 2
if u get the scene in muse before the time limit (17 hours i think), u can get the ending of the quest
giglobro08 3 years ago
Suikoden II rocks!!!
XoXo
Aurawen 3 years ago 3
Wow, that's so sad...
jamietotz 3 years ago 2
Forever your in my heart Suikoden 2...
Element27 3 years ago 5
man!clive is a best actor!!!ever!!
veggieta 3 years ago
i have a questions, once you havent recieved the mail of elza in lakewest, like say,, 30 days?? can i stiull continue this quest??
darkariser07 4 years ago
If you get to Lakewest and the innkeeper says he held on to the letter for so long that he eventually threw it away, then you can't continue the quest.
Avendasora 4 years ago 2
I think if you really run, even though you lost a part of the quest you might still catch with it later, only without the subtle hints of where to go next.
Grandy12 3 years ago
I feel your pain...
magetacular 4 years ago
same here ~.~
Qwary 3 years ago
other name for moon and star is
Morn and Stern
shiro3545 4 years ago
For some reason the names of the guns remembered me of the clowns in FF9.
Grandy12 3 years ago
clive,is one of my favorite charachters in Suikoden 2 :)
Padulas 4 years ago 6
wow... this is so moving and touching...
sigh*
and i love suikoden too...
this is great...
kiddskateshit 4 years ago 4
This is so sad. :<
deonlovesjess 4 years ago
i could never do this. thank god for youtube, thanks
HippogriffAdobo 4 years ago 6
respect for uploading this:) thanks
thatchbro 4 years ago
The side quest wasn't meant for first time players. But I don't see how you couldn't do it and get all 108 characters in under 20 unless you like to item hunt. I think I've gotten to Sajah in 12. But yeah, this was the best sidequest in S2, edging out Iron Chef just a bit because this was more touching.
phantasmex 4 years ago
i didn't make this part T_T basically i liked to spend lots of time so bye bye clive quest aw T_T hope to get to make it someday without losing time that's it lol
yeah in fact, impossibile to finish the game in 20 hours like there are lots of things to do and in 20 hours it would be like speedy gonzales instead of enjoying it.. at least they should choosen 30 hours or 35..
Cinzia7 4 years ago
Thank you, now I've finally been able to see the end of Clive's quest (never could bring myself to rush through such a great game)
jobomir 4 years ago
wait, so at the end of Suikoden 2, before the credits roll, what does it say about Clive?
greenandskyblue 4 years ago 4
It says he buries Elza, then... I forget what the other part was. Returning to Harmonia and the Guild, I think, but I might be confusing it with what it says if you DON'T do this side quest.
Avendasora 4 years ago
I believe he becomes the Guildmaster after the war.
Kelley was to become the guildmaster but since Storm chose Elza and she won the duel she became the guildmaster. She ran away and now that Clive has killed her he is the new leader.
Sad story. I never got to see it until now. Thanks. =)
Dark417 4 years ago 3
but does it say anything different with this quest? i can't remember
macanfly 4 years ago
thanks for uploading!! I've always wanted to see this!! dang! who can finish the game in 20 hours?
greenandskyblue 4 years ago
thanks for uploading this! I didn't even try doing Clive's quest because rushing doesn't suit my style of playing at all. At least now I got to watch it...
tehfunney 4 years ago
Thanks, I missed the last meeting
sblug2 4 years ago
ahhh! it is so hard to got this event..
papaypopaye 4 years ago
finally i see it thank you, peice number three in the howling voice puzzle
zeromaster87 4 years ago 2
suikoden is the best game ever!
story lines that can touch hearts
alfiegwapo 4 years ago 3
I did all the other encounters, yet was never able to get this one. Is there a condition you need to meet?
Auron12786 4 years ago
There's a time limit, actually - you have to have gotten the previous encounters and then get to Sajah Village in under 20 hours. All the other encounters have pretty simple time requirements, if I remember right, but this area doesn't open up until you get to the last dungeon, so it's a bit complicated.
Avendasora 4 years ago
Couldn't you just use a gameshark that keeps your playtime at 0:00?
EricToTheScionti 4 years ago
I don't know - I've never owned a gameshark, and I certainly wouldn't need to buy one for this - it's not that hard if you've already played through the game once or twice (or if, like some people I know, you're using an FAQ).
Avendasora 4 years ago
True, but I hate rushing through games. I like to fuck around with mini games and take my time.
EricToTheScionti 4 years ago
ya let me ask ya did ya do all this in 1 shot?
i mean after ya get clive ya went through the mission ...right?
Qwary 3 years ago
Poor Clive. :(
MasterAsra 4 years ago
Nice. Thanks for uploading :).
Ravonox 4 years ago
i think clive shot here right
shiro3545 4 years ago
Thanks so much for putting this up. I haven't played Suikoden II in like five or six years and could never see Clive's quest cause I couldn't get Eliza's letter in time. Again, thanks so much for this.
themole1983 4 years ago 2
thank u!
Meitoku 4 years ago