that's just bollocks to claim the church is responsible for state education, it was a necessity that would have happened anyway, sick of people hyping up how we would supposedly all be illiterate without the Bible...bullshit
@sephiroththewise indeed...many people were actually literate and could read ones in medieval times...literacy rates clearly declined when Christianity infected Europe, because Christianity was always just an elite phenomenon to benefit the rich and powerful and oppress and trick the poor, so they obviously didn't care if they average pleb could read or not
@SROCeallaigh Actually, no. The reason christianity rose was BECAUSE of illiteracy. Priests could read the bible to the masses, and because they couldnt read, they pretty much believed it was absolute truth and magic.
@sephiroththewise Really don't see how that explains it, they bought it because fear-invoking fire and brimstone monotheism can easily replace paganism...there aren't many notable exceptions apart from Japan which, thanks to its sensible leaders, managed to cripple Christianity's attempt to take over the country...and people do underestimate how literate the common population were before Christianity...
Its just fine because the students can debate and explore other religions and question their own, in class??? My ass. There is always a point of indoctrination, then leavine out key facts and replacing them with religion.
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How could anyone take a book such as the bible or the quran seriously? Especially now that we live in the information age! I thought humans were supposed to be intelligent, and yet everywhere i look i see stupidity.
its funny how those british fags not only in religious talking situations but in every single situation will some how through an example or with words or with a metaphorical sentence or with a paradigm or or or or will talk about gays. Fags.
british gays always talking about homos or disproving religion. Dirty bitches and champions in homosexuality. Yeah come and write fucked up comments to me now no problem you are still fags english bitches.
@mysteko11 when they are of mental age, at 18 or so, they should have that right but before that you shouldn't. It is like Santa Claus, try to say he exists to adults
I don't think he ever said he will deny them that right. He specifically said he will expose his children to ALL the religions, and teach them to think critically about them.
You sir just slandered. And you wonder why religious people are thought of as lying, rude, presumptuous, self-victimizing bigots.
@Kinin4 Dumb fool... Someone who has come out in public and say Religion is a joke and should be got rid off would allow his own children participate in one? Yeah I totally get it now dumbass.
Yet another reason why you people are bigoted: you simply cannot comprehend the fact that parents exist who don't indoctrinate their children into their personal beliefs.
Dawkins wants, above all else, for children to have the *choice*, after being intelligently educated, to participate in religion or not. As it stands, children are brought up with the religion of their parents, not equally exposed to all religions.
@Kinin4 Blah Blah Blah! Go watch all his videos you dumbfound and see if "he" is one of those parents would you give their kids freedom to practice religion.
What a good little religous person you are. You've been trained well; just say "Blah blah blah" when you have no actual arguments left.
Richard has made it quite clear how he would teach a child about religion, and that is to introduce said child to all religions equally. He would much rather see someone choose religion out of their own personal convictions rather than simply because they happened to be brought up to believe one particular one.
I am fed up with hearing about the One, Big Bang ! There has probably been, Billions of Big Bangs, in the Cosmos. Why just One ? WHY ? Why does it have to account to a God ? There isn`t one. Get over it !
➊Evil! Porn! FUNNY! CHRISTIAN! LISTEN! GOD CAN DO EVERYTHING & ALSO HE LOVES US SO MUCH, BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WHY DOESN’T HE FORGIVE CHRISTIAN JUST LIKE THAT IF THEY WORSHIP HIM ONLY.
➋WHY DOES GOD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE, SACRIFICING HIS (ILLOGIC) SON?Hahaha
➌SACRIFICING HIS (ILLOGIC) SON WAS THE ONLY WAY GOD COULD HAVE TO SAVE MANKIND!
➍SO THIS (ILLOGIC) SON OF GOD HAS TO COME DOWN ALL WAY FROM HAVEN AND DIE IN ORDER TO PAY FOR OUR SIN. THATS NOT JUSTICE.
Arguing that certain churches were dominant in promoting education and that a certain country has traditions pertaining to those churches means absolutely nothing now. There were no properly secular schools or institutions in the past because *that was the norm* and atheism/secularism were simply not allowed! Now the situation is VERY different.
"what is the place for religion in a 21st century state education system"
Simple - no place. Zero. Nor should religions, churches, mosques or religious schools be subsidized in any way by taxpayers. Those who insist on a 'religious education' for their kids should pay for it themselves. Don't ask me to pay for it
No matter what is said the vegitabile lord will all ways love you and remember if you eat all your greens and sacrifice your peas you will have a billion virgins and you will gain the force of the carrot power.when you die. Hers some history for you boys and girls the earth was made the time this post was made and don`t tell me it wasn't because i have faith.
the Holyvegbook is available in any cooking shop don't listen to anyone saying this is not truce because we have faith
Evolution is NOT a fact and never has been, because there is simply no evidence for it. Transformation from ape to man over millions of years would leave behind millions and millions of gradual transitional forms, so where the hell are they? Even Colin Patterson the director of the British museum of natural history admits that no such fossil exists. And Darwin also admitted in chapter 6 of his book: "why do we not see innumerable transitional forms everywhere?".
An honorable man and an honest science share an identical fundamental commitment to the Truth regardless of their devotion of any particular vocation. The nature on every major problem is deception and corruption. Deception and corruption combine to form mental kryptonite. The result is to be diverted from addressing the fundamental problem which is invariably Deception and Corruption. Every war and human atrocity the past 250 years has been orchestrated by Secret Society Satanists/Illuminati.
100 years of teaching an Evil Illusion. Evolution was introduced into schools using the Piltdown Man Fraud (1913-53) and then sustained by a series of diabolical frauds. Evolution has never provided a legitimate missing link or met the standard of "irrefutable evidence". The human logic and belief structure is predicated on a fundamental commitment to the Truth (Only Sane Choice), which inherently expands to include all possibilities. Atheism breaches that commitment as a fatal logic error.
Fundamental Logic 101. A commitment to the truth (only sane choice), inherently expands to include all possibilities. Arbitrary dismissal of a possibility, breeches that commitment as a fatal logic error, proving themselves fundamentally insane liars & frauds. When Atheist/Satanists dismiss God as a possibility, they breech their commitment to the truth, resulting in the mindfucked insanity to argue justifying a lie, is rational behavior.
If there is no afterlife, that makes this life so much more meaningful to ourselves and others around us. We enjoy our lives, help others to enjoy theirs and try and make the world a better place as much as are potential allows. I don't understand what a "light being" is. Light is photons that travel 186000 miles per second. I used to be a believer for the first 39 yrs of my life until I started thinking rationally about it and investigating the improbability of creation with a rational approach
what bothers me the most about faith schools is that they are publicly funded. You're allowed to teach your children whatever you want (as long as it doesn't constitute psychological abuse) but frankly, I don't want my money to go to private schools that explicitly endorse one specific religious ideal.
Here in Canada, only Catholic schools are publicly funded which goes directly against the secular ideal of church state separation. The fact that they only endorse one church is even worse.
Lemme tell it like it is. Enough of this courtesy crap.
Fuck your Churches, Fuck your kiddie-fiddling Priests and narcissistic leaders, Fuck your Pope, Fuck your abortion and condom "rules", Fuck your misogynistic attacks on women and their bodies, Fuck your forced moral codes and values, Fuck your guilt, Fuck your fears, Fuck your blame, Fuck it all ... your ideas are dying and with them ... your made up god.
@oODarkEnergyOo Explain to me how the universe and the entire creation got here and where it came from. Explain where gravity comes from and how it exists and who has power over in life. Just because you believe in science doesn't mean you have to reject your creator. I believe in science, all the messengers and prophets believed in science and encouraged learning. science is supposed to prove That a higher power exists not deny it. How can human beings be so arrogant enough as to deny God.
@isasooner5 ... I don't owe you an explanation for the entire universe and all of existence LOL. You're just 1 human being walking around breathing air. Know your place in the scheme of things and stop talking about fairy tales.
If you're afraid of your own existence and you need a deity to help take the pain away, deal with it. I don't need your fairy tales to know what and where I am. The latest physics and astrophysics write-ups do me just fine thanks.
You don't owe me an explanation? Then what are you debating for? Because you don't have an explanation. Its just ignorance and arrogance on your part.
@isasooner5 It's so funny how you people feel the need to use profanity and fowl language in your rants. That shows that I've frustrated you and you've already lost the argument. talking about pixies and fairies other nonsense that has nothing to due with what we're debating. When a person gets upset and can't think of anything intelligent to say like you, that's when I know I've got em.
@isasooner5 ...ummmm there's nothing to debate .. the burden of proof is on you for thinking a deity is floating around there somewhere that created everything. lol ... and you should be a little more prudent with the use of the word "ignorance". You're obviously recycling that word because your own ignorance is staggering. There's no debate here ... you have no evidence whatsoever for your pink unicorn, your yellow elephant or your deity. It's an open and shut case.
I reiterate what I've said before.Do you realize the Qur'an talks about people like you over and over. God warns us against people who reject him and his existence even after clear signs come to them. You also can't prove I a higher power doesn't exist. We acknowledge science and are urged to learn it. Just because you advocate science doesn't mean you should deny the one is in charge of the science and evolution of the universe. You people are in the vast majority in your belief
in this world on deny the existence of an almighty higher power. More than 2 billion Christians, more than 1.5 billion Muslims, millions of Jews and countless others. I'd rather have faith and belief in something than nothing at all.not just science because as you already know, just science alone can't prove everything and will never prove everything. that's why we belief in a higher power to help us understand who's responsible for the unexplained. Every one is going to find out
soon enough don't worry. on the day of judgement when you have to answer for your beliefs and practices in life don't complain or be surprised when God tells you I'm am most just to all my creation I gave fair warning over and over to believe in me and not be corrupted by the devil who is your open enemy, whose job it is to lead you astray. So now burn in the eternal fire. So you can believe in whatever you want to, God allows you to. As we say, be you to your way and me to mine.
@isasooner5 ... sorry, we're not obliged to share your guilt and fear. There is no "judgement" coming. Your warnings are based on your fear and confusion of what and where you are in the scheme of your own existence. Man up and educate yourself properly. At the moment, people are laughing at you. There is no "god" looking down on you giving you the nod at your silly ramblings. No one is trying to lead you astray ... we're trying to help you.
@isasooner5 ... let me entertain the fantasy for a moment ... afterall, it's fun. If I meet your deity when I die, this will be the short conversation:
ME: "Well well well, so you WERE there and you created all of this. No way dude!"
DEITY: "Ah see, and after all that evil shit your wrote on YouTube, you want to get in here huh?"
ME: "Oh fuck no ... send me to straight to hell so I can burn."
@isasooner5 I don't wanna start hating on you but I will give you some sound advice; learn how to properly spell before going online and raging about your beliefs. No one will take you seriously if you write like a twelve year old.
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@isasooner5 ....oh however you DID use the word arrogance correctly. Whenever a rational person deals with the question of deities ... it DOES come across as arrogant because when we talk to people like you ... no offense intended here ... but it's like talking to a 5 year old who gets angry when we won't "believe" in your imaginary friend. There's no way to be kind about this. Sorry. You're deluded and you don't realise it.
@isasooner5 do you have faith there is a god? then YOU have to prove it not the other way around if you called the police and said a ghost had stolen food from your fridge then you wold have to prove it to the police there was a ghost, that is how i think of your god
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@oODarkEnergyOo You can't prove that a higher power doesn't exist its impossible. What, just because you can't see him? As Muslims, that is the most grievous sin is to deny the one who created you and allowed you to gain and advance in scientific knowledge to come with different theories. The one who allows you to live. That's what happening to atheists and Scientology when they think they've gained a certain amount of knowledge they become arrogant and reject their lord and creator Human flaw
@isasooner5 ... You can't prove that there isn't a big yellow elephant floating around the moon ... you can't. What, just because you can't see it?
So it's a sin to deny the existence of something that doesn't exist ... how convenient for all you Muslims (especially since it allows you to treat your women like cattle) lol
You just don't want to work and strive and struggle and give your sinful corruptive ways because you are to weak-minded and hearted to sacrifice things in this life to get to our ultimate goal, eternal paradise. That's your excuse. It doesn't have anything to do with believing you just don't want restrictions and regulations and morality and piety and humbleness. Why is it that I am strong enough to abstain from certain sin and corruption and you and other people can't. Weakness,Laziness.
That's our test in life. God gave man free will for a purpose. to choose to believe and submit to or not. But ultimately we are going to answer for what we did and choose to believe in this life. The thing is judging by the way you think. God hasn't blessed you with the fear and hope in him and the consciousness and awareness of his existence. As Muslims we believe God guides whom he wills and leads astray whom he wills and no human can influence that person either way without God's will.
@oODarkEnergyOo You poor misguided little child. You're obviously an angry and confused individual. Of course it's an easy option to not believe in God but the fact is if it weren't for God then you wouldn't exist. Jesus promises you in the bible that if you come to Him he will give you peace and understanding and you WILL be forgiven. "There is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:1)
@clayden82. That isn't a fact. Jesus didn't write the bible. I don't need to be forgiven by anyone but the person i've wronged. If I go to hell for being a good person, non-believer while a pedophile rapist gives himself to christianity and goes to heaven then I am more morally correct than your God.
@trocknickel Atheists believe something came from NOTHING!!! The Universe created it self with enough Time matter and energy! Then molecules assembled them selves! Homochirality is a disaster for atheism! This is what led Frances collins to leave atheism!
@5tonyvvvv. Atheists do not need to believe something came from nothing. One could simply say "I do not know if the universe is finite or infinite and no one has show any evidence as to a creator." Francis Collins is one accredited scientist who believes among a field of accredited scientists that don't believe. Are you assuming that Mr. Collins has a special type of reasoning that 90% (amount of disbelievers) of the Royal Academy of Scientists are not privy to?
@trocknickel Where did you get this information? I would do some serious biblical study. Why? How can you make a wise decision?
Your missing the whole point of WHY men do not make it to heaven (pride and arrogance). Two thieves condemned to die with Jesus on cross; one thief mocks Jesus and the other knows he is the Son of God. And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!" And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise." Luke 23:42-43
@yhenry77. I've read from the bible and have studied and watched numerous religious debates. I would suggest you do some serious scientific study - start with abiogenesis. As for where I got my information, a simple google search would suffice. Youtube is not allowing me to post a link so google "Intelligent people less likely to believe in God" and read the telegraph article detailing the studies.
@trocknickel abiogenesis? As of 2012 no scientific projects has created a living single cell. The closest so far; J. Craig Venter Inst. on May 21, 2010 the largest man-made DNA structure by synthesizing and assembling the 582,970 base pair genome of a bacterium called Mycoplasma genitalium. BTW: they used a host cell (not abiogenesis); it would NOT spontaneously come alive. It took 15 years, 21 scientists and super computer. This breakthrough is considered an Intelligent Design project, right?
"abiogenesis? As of 2012 no scientific projects has created a living single cell."
- you dont need to demonstrate something inorder to provide evidence it occurred eg. Pluto has never been observed to orbit the sun, but based on it's current movements we have incredibly strong evidence it did.
- Testable predictions are one of the best forms of evidence in science and it is the testable predictions of abiogenesis that have made it the BEST and MOST WELL EVIDENCED explanation
@types10000 Testable predictions are one of the best forms of evidence? Ok, show me any peer review papers of abiogenesis using basic blocks of life (ATCG); I think you'll find MOST scientists will not touch this subject with 10 foot pole! Why is that?
They know any scientific experiment or project succeeding in abiogenesis is very remote or impossible. You notice in debates; 75 years of failed abiogenesis projects or experiments is ignored. Why? if ALL of life need millions of cells to adapt?
@yhenry77. I meant to address you as well in my other comment but it did not seem to link you. Anyway, as I mentioned, you are attempting a God of the Gap argument. Here is a terrific website that links to abiogenesis, the false claims made against it, and in their words "the enormous process made since the Miller-Urey experiments...". No need to make disingenuous claims or attempt strawman arguments (no one said scientists created a living single cell) Google 'talk origins' 'abiogenesis'.
@SithSpectre. yhenry77. I'm confused, do you both think because a scientific experiment failed to create a living single cell that this necessarily leads to the fact that there needs to be a deity? This is a classic God of the Gaps argument. SithSpectre you seem easily impressed with people throwing out names of Doctors and scientific wording.The fact of abiogenesis is that life has come, in certain specific conditions, from inorganic matter from natural processes.
@trocknickel necessarily leads to the fact that there needs to be a deity? That is just MY hypothesis "only God can create life"; some may call it the result of Intelligent Design. That is their choice, right?
My question to you: How long are willing to wait? Another 75 years and they will not be any closer than they are now. Don't you see the paradox; that life is created ALL around us every second (animals, insects, birds, single cells) and they cannot explain HOW.
@yhenry77. Your hypothesis is without a shred of evidence. There is nothing to suggest that. I hate to repeat myself but this is God of the gaps to the highest extent. This is how I perceive your question: How long am I willing to wait for empirical evidence and observation (i.e. scientific method) to answer how life began before I decide to make a unfounded assumption based on personal want or faith. My answer is I hope to never be too weak or too gullible to not care about the what is true.
@yhenry77. Your comment shows your extreme ignorance. Not discovering something doesn't mean it's not there. I try to be as diplomatic as possible in these discussion but I would be throughly embarrassed if I made a comment such as your previous one. Tell that to Galileo (well 75 years prior, no one showed the earth was round) Sorry John Dalton (no one had a comprehensive atomic theory prior, how could you possibly be correct) Sorry Stanley Miller and Harold Urey, yhenry77 calls your bullshit.
@trocknickel What about science theory do you not understand? Evidence and proof is ALWAYS required. We have an experiment for 75 years and it's unsuccessful; isn't that a HINT? BTW if all scientists had read the bible.
@yhenry77. This is getting ridiculous. 75 years of not successfully showing something in various scientific experiments does not mean that it does not exist. I won't continue discussing how absurd your definition of evidence is anymore. As for the Earth being round - Isaiah 11:12 talks about "the four quarters of the earth". Here is another beauty google search to refute your quote mining - google - "talk origins" and "earth round".
@trocknickel "the four quarters of the earth"? Like I said in my first comment you need to do more bible study. It's "the four quarters of the earth" Isaiah 11:12 which talks about locations of the earth. In Isaiah 40:22, the circle of the earth - Or rather, "above" (על ‛al) the circle of the earth. The word rendered 'circle' (חוּג chûg) denotes "a circle, sphere, or arch"; and is applied to the arch or vault of the heavens.
This kind of post-hoc reasoning is incredibly unconvincing. Mostly because you choose the parts that obviously sound insightful and ignore the bits the bible got wrong. By your logic, the ancient hindu scriptures must be true because they actually claimed that there were other planets than ours. The bible seemed to miss that fact. This has GOT to be water-tight reasoning....
@yhenry77. Oh the four locations of the earth... wow that makes so much more sense. How could I have missed that? As I said, google "talk origins" and "earth round". The Bible is the big book of multiple choice, while "bible study" in modern times attempts to explain away the Church's distrust for science by stating "oh we knew the earth was round, check out Isaiah". Please please please just check out the google search and read it. Your point has been reasonably refuted a million times.
@yhenry77. We can explain precisely how life is created around us at every moment. We have a complete understanding of how organic matter replicates and breeds. What we do not know is how everything came to be prior to the Big Bang. Before you go throwing assertions/questions around that you cannot answer either about events before the Big Bang, understand the crux of the argument: We do not know what occurred before it but we can observe that natural processes work without positing a deity.
@trocknickel we can observe that natural processes work? The main issue with evolution is we know WHAT was created, but we do not know HOW. If aliens came to our earth and saw an automobile for the first time. They categorized them by size, color, make and model. They even followed their movements and observed where they were built. They then asked a question: Are these automobiles created naturally or is there an Intelligent Designer? Remember this, next time you see a bird, dog or human being.
@trocknickel Completely agree with you - I will gladly accept my 'punishment' if I'm wrong - if god wanted us to be bleating sheep, following his every command then why are so free thinking and free willed?
@clayden82, how can you be sure it isn't a trap to separate the genuinely decent people from the filthy scum? In my opinion, no decent person would relish the idea that they need only ask for an eternity in heaven to earn such a reward. Perhaps the story of Jesus is mean to establish which people are morally bankrupt enough, as individuals, to actually embrace the idea of having someone else punished for their sins. I know of no decent peson who would not be appalled by such a deep injustice.
@clayden82 ... let me guess ... you can't handle the fact that you'll die and there is nothing afterward ... total ending ... the long sleep ... nothingness ... oblivion ... or is it that you're just fooling yourself into thinking you'll see a close dead relative again when you die ... what is it about reality that disgusts you so ... that you need to blindly believe in ramblings written thousands of years ago by people who had no idea what the fuck is going on around them?
@clayden82 ... why be afraid of the end? Don't be afraid. Were you afraid all those billions of years prior to you being born and attaining self awareness? No, you were not. So why will you be in fear or pain for all the billions of years AFTER you die? The fact is, you simply can't cognitively digest what the fuck you actually are ... or where you are. Put the ancient manuscripts down and broaden your knowledge of cosmology, biology and psychology ... a potent combination.
@oODarkEnergyOo Why does it seem that there cannot be an intelligent debate over these topics without it resulting in insults. I am an atheist and do not believe in other's traditions, but I would prefer arguing my point of view and beliefs rather than just saying "fuck you", people like you are the reason the masses believe atheists pompous assholes.
@bobano10011 ... there's nothing to debate here. The debate ended a thousands times in the lecture halls of universities and around dinner tables. There is no argument here ... only entertainment ... that's all that's left now. You can feel offended and moan all you like but nothing will change ... deities will still be imaginary and proof of their existence is highly unlikely to ever show up. That's just the way it is ...
To all your religious twists and fanatics ... If you can't bring yourself to face your fear that all our knowledge points to the fact that existence is blind and devoid of any real purpose, then deal with your fears in your darkest hour and save your preaching for your mirror. Don't try and lay blame and guilt on other human beings. Don't demand fear from us. Get fucked.
"I think there is a god up there and I believe in Him" ... ok no worries. Knock yourself out and enjoy.
"I know there is a god up there and I believe in Him" ... ok prove it you fucktard! pwned, slammed, canned and banned! Period. End of story. Case closed.
Thinking something and thinking you KNOW something is completely different in my book and you're a fraud if you think your KNOW there is a deity floating around who "created" everything ...
EVERYONE!! Go to Wikipedia and look up Isaac newtons religious views. It states plane as day Isaac newton viewed god as the masterful whose existence could not be denied. It also states that he was opposed to the trinitarian belief, that worshiping Jesus or any other deity other than god was idolatry, the fundamental sin. Sir Isaac newton the father of modern physics and one of the pioneers of western science believes in God and confirmed his existence. and not just him, others as well.
@isasooner5 aww check you out believing in fairy tales,shhhhh its ok you dont need to preach to us, surely youd be better off spending your time paying to your air fairy than trying to convince the supposed damned atheist of something that cannot be proven, just because isaac newton believed there was a higher power (in a time when to think any different was more frowned upon than today) does not mean i instantly have to agree with him, for all i know he might have liked sprouts, i however dont
@aikikev ... I could have thought of dozens of simple explanations for this tool ((isasooner5)) but why bother .. I've started to come to terms with the fact that evolution won't allow some brains to literally "evolve" so they can understand their own existence better .. LMFAO ... it's just scary to see such ridiculous shit in these comments and to think these people have kids and families and friends they preach this bullshit to.
Everyone! what good has atheism and Scientology done to world? what tangible contributions have been reaped from these beliefs? Religions have Have built hospitals, schools, banks, non-profit organizations, interfaith organizations and programs countless other things that have saved and helped countless lives all over the world from all different types of religions at least the 3 major monotheistic religions Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
@isasooner5 .... um ... Atheism and Scientology have very very little in common. You see ... because you're so poorly educated in critical areas (aka dumb) ... you think that the "Scient" part of the word "Scientology" means "all of science" and because many Atheists tend to hold the sciences close in very high regard ... you're connecting the two. Now if you understand what I just said, you may be able to redeem yourself. If not, then you truly are ... extremely fucking dumb.
For all you atheists and scientologists who follow Richard dawkins, will be surprised to know that from a video I saw of a Man who has masters degrees in philosophy of science etc. from Duke University He did a thesis and Discovered that Newton the father of modern physic. wrote papers on the existence of God and wrote papers against the trinity and how it's impossible for god to have a son. These are the pioneers of modern science and there's not just one or two, multiples that actually saw
@isasooner5 science as a way of confirming god's existence not denying. science pioneers from the western world So today there is this delusion that if you study more science you're supposed to reject God its one or the other. That's false. Actually the Holy Qur'an Does the exact opposite. it challenges you to study science because when you study science you become closer and appreciate the creation and ultimately the creator.
only a fool can believe in amino acids falling into a ocean that formed out of nothing "believeing" that it was all the right tempurtures, and just the rite salt mixes to create a living cell, this is a mind of someone loving there desires and trying to live in a fatacsy world using real things things that was created by a Creater that is most supreme and ultimatly know more then we ll humans ever think of...
See a great lecture called: story of life origins: the obvious version
Gives a fresh look at the development of life, from the point of view of the developers of THING: an autonomous nano-machines complex, designed to auto clone itself out of molecules and energy that it gathers from its ambient.
Basic systems are described, including a quality control system named EVO1.
Suggests: if we put aside our preconditioning , and look just at the hard evidence, this becomes the OBVIOUS story of LIFE.
If you want to do the right thing, then for the next two years only research what is wrong with evolution and you'll have a different outlook on the whole debate. You see, all (or almost all) of us have been thoroughly schooled in the myth of evolution, because it was shoved down our throughts in public school. On the other hand, most haven't had a fair opportunity to understand what is so wrong with evolution. Try to do some honest research before you support one side of the debate.
@sieracki001 Don't get me started on Germany... The state collects church taxes and bishops are paid by the state... While teachers of religion in public schools are paid by the church.
LISTEN TO WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING.... They are breeding a form of "christianity" which i like to call "cultural christianity". Barry Sheerman said that you couldn't even tell that my kids had gone to a particularly religious or faith based schools
we humans dont understand a DAMN thing. we strongly believe in evolution yet we enslave our primate cousins and make fun of them and disrespect them. how much are we of value when we enslave animals and disrespect nature. you know life has to have a balance. all of these earthquakes and floods are the earth is limbo. there is a huge unblanace taking place. the earth is speaking listen to it. it is older than any religion.
You actually still believe humans come from primates? HAHAHA! All the natural and man made disasters are all part of the Almighty's will to test human beings faith in him. To see just because a tragedy or disaster occurs are we going to lose faith and give up on him. the trials and tribulations in life occur to test mankind. That's why he gave human beings and only humans the right to free will to choose what we believe and do but we are ultimately going to be responsible for all the we do.
1- Correction: We don't "come from" primates...we ARE primates. :)
2- Just because some things are a mystery to us does not = GOD. That is a non-sequitur.
3- How can humans be so arrogant as to think a transcendent being powerful enough to create the cosmos cares a LICK about the prayers of some puny primates on an insignificant speck of dust orbiting a humdrum star off to the side of one of a billion galaxies?
Put THAT one in your religious pipe and smoke it. >=D
@Kinin4 .."a being that can create the cosmos cares about primates on a speck of dust orbiting a humdrum star in one of a billion galaxies?"
Nicely put. Few can really grasp the scale of the cosmos. Recent evidence suggests the visible universe contains upward of 100 billion galaxies. A large galaxy (an elliptical) can contain upward of a trillion (10^12) stars. The potential for planetary systems, and therefore life, is staggering. I've not met a christian or muslim who understands any of this
@isasooner5 What a cock, i actually hope that i am wrong and that there is some kind of magical oxygen pixie, and hopefully it'll be a different one to the one you believe in, maybe even a pixie of reasoning and logic that decides to punish people who just blindly believe in fairy tales without thinking how logically obsurd it is, howver im still sticking with the fact of death being the end that suits me down to the ground
It's so funny how you people feel the need to use profanity and fowl language in your rants. That shows that I've frustrated you and you've already lost the argument. talking about pixies and fairies other nonsense that has nothing to due with what we're debating. When a person gets upset and can't think of anything intelligent to say like you, that's when I know I've got em.
@isasooner5 i think you'll find pixies and faries etc have a lot to do with what we are discussing, in that they too have no evidence to prove they have, do or ever will exist and you take this as fact (i hope) what you need to understand is this how we percieve your belief in a god, as an unconditional belief contrary to sceintific evidence and common sense........ oh hang on i forgot to add FUCK since that automattically means you win apparently
@aikikev . WATCH THIS VIDEO IN IT'S ENTIRETY BELOW. SPECIFICALLY DR. ZAKIR NAIK, ON THE QUR'AN AND THE BIBLE IN THE LIGHT OF MODERN SCIENCE, THEN WRITE ALL REPLIES.
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@oODarkEnergyOo watch the documentary hubble 3d. it shows our planet from outer space. also shows the beauty of space. earth is the only planet we know of that nourishes and protects us. from outerspace the pcean and lands look so perfect. that was not a mistake. something non human created or allowed these things to happen. whatever this thing unknown is, it is divine and i respect it. call it god, call it energy, love, doctor healer mother , whatever name you want.
@ericdisney1 but to say there is nothing there. that it was an evolving form of energy that is non existent . i refuse. dont let religion formed by human hands darken your own energy and ghost because of their foul play on human kind
@ericdisney1 ... it all sounds very romantic and just a little bit convenient too. It's less ignorance than it is confusion on your part. You're filling in the gaps in your knowledge of basic physics ... with a creator / designer ... if you understood even simple principles of astrophysics, you'd realise that this ball of rock and iron formed based on those principles. The more popular works of Kaku and Hawking will clear your confusion up ... and make you feel a little embarrassed.
@ericdisney1@ericdisney1 Watch "The Pale Blue Dot". It's a short (less than 5 min) segment from Carl Sagan's series Cosmos. I don't think it will sway your opinion that a supreme being created this planet and all that is on it but it may make you think of the insignificance of our tiny oasis in the vast cosmos. If there are billions of galaxies each containing billions of suns then there maybe billions of other 'oasis' in the universe. We used to thing the earth was the center of the universe
@hunt5714 i will watch it. but just so you know partner. we humans put a name to every thing. we even put one on the creator. we drink water. we need sunlight. we need food. we need love. we need each other. we always are needing arent we. wonder why. and who gives?
@hunt5714 all i know is that the light is good. could be we are light beings. when we die we return to the light. whatever name people wanna give that light is up to them. i prefer creator. sounds good.
06:27 triple leg cross XD
The555MB555 2 days ago
If the British don't like private religious schools, I wonder what they'd do about American style home schooling?
SallyMorem 1 week ago
TERRIBLE opening music. Sounded like farting down a trumpet.
TweedEchidna 1 week ago
that's just bollocks to claim the church is responsible for state education, it was a necessity that would have happened anyway, sick of people hyping up how we would supposedly all be illiterate without the Bible...bullshit
SROCeallaigh 1 week ago
@SROCeallaigh The funny part is, we would probably be more literate WITHOUT the testaments.
sephiroththewise 1 week ago
@sephiroththewise indeed...many people were actually literate and could read ones in medieval times...literacy rates clearly declined when Christianity infected Europe, because Christianity was always just an elite phenomenon to benefit the rich and powerful and oppress and trick the poor, so they obviously didn't care if they average pleb could read or not
SROCeallaigh 1 week ago
@SROCeallaigh Actually, no. The reason christianity rose was BECAUSE of illiteracy. Priests could read the bible to the masses, and because they couldnt read, they pretty much believed it was absolute truth and magic.
sephiroththewise 1 week ago
@sephiroththewise Really don't see how that explains it, they bought it because fear-invoking fire and brimstone monotheism can easily replace paganism...there aren't many notable exceptions apart from Japan which, thanks to its sensible leaders, managed to cripple Christianity's attempt to take over the country...and people do underestimate how literate the common population were before Christianity...
SROCeallaigh 1 week ago
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"Evolution is unproven and unprovable. We believe it only because the only alternative is special creation, and that is unthinkable."
Romans 1:22-23
Though claiming to be wise, they became fools
and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images that looked like mortal human beings, birds, four-footed animals, and reptiles.
pinball281 2 weeks ago
you cant teach "alternative" in science you have to teach that which is most strongest and more supported by facts.
ANBUspecialBlackops 3 weeks ago
Its just fine because the students can debate and explore other religions and question their own, in class??? My ass. There is always a point of indoctrination, then leavine out key facts and replacing them with religion.
freehling420 3 weeks ago
Faith=poo
MrFrontallobotomy 3 weeks ago 5
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isasooner5 1 month ago
/Richard Dawkins and muslim
watch?v=yhVQcs4ZqwA&feature=channel_video_title
ThePero20111 1 month ago
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ThePero20111 1 month ago
How could anyone take a book such as the bible or the quran seriously? Especially now that we live in the information age! I thought humans were supposed to be intelligent, and yet everywhere i look i see stupidity.
Ghostland999 1 month ago
The Galapagos Island Finches,
To Accommodate them in the scheme of things, we need to write a Whole History to explain their Existence.
Such as how they came to be on the Exact Right Island where the Exact Food Source was present to suit the beak that god gave them.
Was there Finch War and Siege with Island Rally and Final Defeat? Like in the bible?
Or shall we CHOOSE NATURAL SELECTION.
bujumbura101 1 month ago
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bujumbura101 1 month ago
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Please everybody change the expreshion (OMG) to OMD .....oh my Dawin.......... its a start to correct the language.
thescroopy1 1 month ago
its funny how those british fags not only in religious talking situations but in every single situation will some how through an example or with words or with a metaphorical sentence or with a paradigm or or or or will talk about gays. Fags.
BeforeManKind 1 month ago
british gays always talking about homos or disproving religion. Dirty bitches and champions in homosexuality. Yeah come and write fucked up comments to me now no problem you are still fags english bitches.
BeforeManKind 1 month ago
@BeforeManKind
Your comments do not deserve a response. Have a nice day.
Kinin4 1 month ago
@Kinin4 I never asked for one but you just gave me one ;) Same to you.
BeforeManKind 1 month ago
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@BeforeManKind
Does "Yeah come and write fucked up comments to me now no problem you are still fags english bitches" ring a bell?
And a reply is not the same as a response.
Kinin4 1 month ago
@Kinin4 just ignore the queer troll beforemankind it's not his fault he's a yank!
afertyus1000 1 month ago
By Definition Mr. Dawkins, Your kids should not be denied the right to choose if they want to become religious or not! This man is so full of SHIT!
mysteko11 1 month ago
@mysteko11 when they are of mental age, at 18 or so, they should have that right but before that you shouldn't. It is like Santa Claus, try to say he exists to adults
Todobond7 1 month ago
@mysteko11
I don't think he ever said he will deny them that right. He specifically said he will expose his children to ALL the religions, and teach them to think critically about them.
You sir just slandered. And you wonder why religious people are thought of as lying, rude, presumptuous, self-victimizing bigots.
...Well, it's because you are, but that aside.
Kinin4 1 month ago
@Kinin4 Dumb fool... Someone who has come out in public and say Religion is a joke and should be got rid off would allow his own children participate in one? Yeah I totally get it now dumbass.
mysteko11 1 month ago
@mysteko11
Yet another reason why you people are bigoted: you simply cannot comprehend the fact that parents exist who don't indoctrinate their children into their personal beliefs.
Dawkins wants, above all else, for children to have the *choice*, after being intelligently educated, to participate in religion or not. As it stands, children are brought up with the religion of their parents, not equally exposed to all religions.
Kinin4 1 month ago
@Kinin4 Blah Blah Blah! Go watch all his videos you dumbfound and see if "he" is one of those parents would you give their kids freedom to practice religion.
mysteko11 1 month ago
@mysteko11
What a good little religous person you are. You've been trained well; just say "Blah blah blah" when you have no actual arguments left.
Richard has made it quite clear how he would teach a child about religion, and that is to introduce said child to all religions equally. He would much rather see someone choose religion out of their own personal convictions rather than simply because they happened to be brought up to believe one particular one.
Kinin4 1 month ago 18
I am fed up with hearing about the One, Big Bang ! There has probably been, Billions of Big Bangs, in the Cosmos. Why just One ? WHY ? Why does it have to account to a God ? There isn`t one. Get over it !
jazzmanzoot 1 month ago
6:25 synchronized crossing legs like a boss.
KOdestroyer 1 month ago 34
@KOdestroyer dayum! That was dope! The dude on the right got his shit slapped!
Johnf85 1 month ago
@KOdestroyer Thank you. I had a intense moment of hapiness watching that.
Theomacho 1 month ago
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Funny POPE ANSWER ME!
➊JESUS HAD BEARD THEN WHY DONT YOU HAVE BEARD?
➋IF YOUR ILLOGIC GOD CAN MARRY & HAVE A SON THEN WHY YOU CAN’T MARRY A SEXY NUN ? (EVIL CHRISTIANITY TEACH HUMAN NOT TO MARRY)
➌HOW COME CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE being cradled and crucified by human!
➍WHY HUMAN JESUS is more important THEN God?
➎WHY CHRISTIAN FAKE TRINITY = U+YOUR WIFE+YOUR FRIEND CHEATER POTTER=1 ILLEGITIMATE CHILD OUT OF 3 SOON
➏Jesus(PBUH)used to go to toilet then why he is a god?
marshalenam5 2 months ago
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➊Evil! Porn! FUNNY! CHRISTIAN! LISTEN! GOD CAN DO EVERYTHING & ALSO HE LOVES US SO MUCH, BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WHY DOESN’T HE FORGIVE CHRISTIAN JUST LIKE THAT IF THEY WORSHIP HIM ONLY.
➋WHY DOES GOD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE, SACRIFICING HIS (ILLOGIC) SON?Hahaha
➌SACRIFICING HIS (ILLOGIC) SON WAS THE ONLY WAY GOD COULD HAVE TO SAVE MANKIND!
➍SO THIS (ILLOGIC) SON OF GOD HAS TO COME DOWN ALL WAY FROM HAVEN AND DIE IN ORDER TO PAY FOR OUR SIN. THATS NOT JUSTICE.
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marshalenam5 2 months ago
Arguing that certain churches were dominant in promoting education and that a certain country has traditions pertaining to those churches means absolutely nothing now. There were no properly secular schools or institutions in the past because *that was the norm* and atheism/secularism were simply not allowed! Now the situation is VERY different.
flutterandwow 2 months ago
"what is the place for religion in a 21st century state education system"
Simple - no place. Zero. Nor should religions, churches, mosques or religious schools be subsidized in any way by taxpayers. Those who insist on a 'religious education' for their kids should pay for it themselves. Don't ask me to pay for it
gangster3591 2 months ago
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No matter what is said the vegitabile lord will all ways love you and remember if you eat all your greens and sacrifice your peas you will have a billion virgins and you will gain the force of the carrot power.when you die. Hers some history for you boys and girls the earth was made the time this post was made and don`t tell me it wasn't because i have faith.
the Holyvegbook is available in any cooking shop don't listen to anyone saying this is not truce because we have faith
raders09 2 months ago
@raders09 lol
afertyus1000 1 month ago
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Evolution is NOT a fact and never has been, because there is simply no evidence for it. Transformation from ape to man over millions of years would leave behind millions and millions of gradual transitional forms, so where the hell are they? Even Colin Patterson the director of the British museum of natural history admits that no such fossil exists. And Darwin also admitted in chapter 6 of his book: "why do we not see innumerable transitional forms everywhere?".
clayden82 2 months ago
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Descendants of Apes and Chimps, when do we devolve back to the forest? I miss the days of jumping from one tree to another and walking around naked.
eltopus4747 2 months ago
LOL @ 6:27
Devantium 2 months ago
Let em open more Faith-based schools more Atheists will be produced!
wowamonn 2 months ago
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An honorable man and an honest science share an identical fundamental commitment to the Truth regardless of their devotion of any particular vocation. The nature on every major problem is deception and corruption. Deception and corruption combine to form mental kryptonite. The result is to be diverted from addressing the fundamental problem which is invariably Deception and Corruption. Every war and human atrocity the past 250 years has been orchestrated by Secret Society Satanists/Illuminati.
waketheoblivious 2 months ago
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100 years of teaching an Evil Illusion. Evolution was introduced into schools using the Piltdown Man Fraud (1913-53) and then sustained by a series of diabolical frauds. Evolution has never provided a legitimate missing link or met the standard of "irrefutable evidence". The human logic and belief structure is predicated on a fundamental commitment to the Truth (Only Sane Choice), which inherently expands to include all possibilities. Atheism breaches that commitment as a fatal logic error.
waketheoblivious 2 months ago
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Lurid History of diabolical "missing link" frauds, by Satanists posing as scientists:
1913-53 Piltdown Man HOAX, Manufactured Planted Evidence
Nebraska Man, Discarded Pigs Tooth
Peking Man, Conglomeration of Co-Mingled Fossils
Lucy, Manipulated Fossil Using Plaster
Orce Man, 4 Month Old Donkey Bone
2009 Ida, Grossly Unsupportable Classification
2010 Sebida, equivelant of a deceased PetsMart Gerbil
*Evolution, science of a preponderance of bullshit, in lieu of irrefutable evidence.
waketheoblivious 2 months ago
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Fundamental Logic 101. A commitment to the truth (only sane choice), inherently expands to include all possibilities. Arbitrary dismissal of a possibility, breeches that commitment as a fatal logic error, proving themselves fundamentally insane liars & frauds. When Atheist/Satanists dismiss God as a possibility, they breech their commitment to the truth, resulting in the mindfucked insanity to argue justifying a lie, is rational behavior.
Atheist/Satanists = Godforsaken Nazis
waketheoblivious 2 months ago
The Bishop of Bath and Wells? The baby eating bishop?
wanker4761 2 months ago
If there is no afterlife, that makes this life so much more meaningful to ourselves and others around us. We enjoy our lives, help others to enjoy theirs and try and make the world a better place as much as are potential allows. I don't understand what a "light being" is. Light is photons that travel 186000 miles per second. I used to be a believer for the first 39 yrs of my life until I started thinking rationally about it and investigating the improbability of creation with a rational approach
hunt5714 2 months ago 2
what bothers me the most about faith schools is that they are publicly funded. You're allowed to teach your children whatever you want (as long as it doesn't constitute psychological abuse) but frankly, I don't want my money to go to private schools that explicitly endorse one specific religious ideal.
Here in Canada, only Catholic schools are publicly funded which goes directly against the secular ideal of church state separation. The fact that they only endorse one church is even worse.
Richy15251 3 months ago
How old is this debate?
Seldomsleeper 3 months ago
@Seldomsleeper too old
aikikev 3 months ago
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Oh poor atheists,
not only Dr. Laurence Brown is trying hard to open your eyes and your hearts for the facts, and to wake you up from your dream "watch?v=rK_0aFEtrOY".
There is also Mr. "Hamzah Andreas Tzortzis" I advise you to watch his Debates with many atheists for example "watch?v=WUhb-cSBtqA".
akeello 3 months ago
Lemme tell it like it is. Enough of this courtesy crap.
Fuck your Churches, Fuck your kiddie-fiddling Priests and narcissistic leaders, Fuck your Pope, Fuck your abortion and condom "rules", Fuck your misogynistic attacks on women and their bodies, Fuck your forced moral codes and values, Fuck your guilt, Fuck your fears, Fuck your blame, Fuck it all ... your ideas are dying and with them ... your made up god.
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago 68
@oODarkEnergyOo Explain to me how the universe and the entire creation got here and where it came from. Explain where gravity comes from and how it exists and who has power over in life. Just because you believe in science doesn't mean you have to reject your creator. I believe in science, all the messengers and prophets believed in science and encouraged learning. science is supposed to prove That a higher power exists not deny it. How can human beings be so arrogant enough as to deny God.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 ... I don't owe you an explanation for the entire universe and all of existence LOL. You're just 1 human being walking around breathing air. Know your place in the scheme of things and stop talking about fairy tales.
If you're afraid of your own existence and you need a deity to help take the pain away, deal with it. I don't need your fairy tales to know what and where I am. The latest physics and astrophysics write-ups do me just fine thanks.
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
You don't owe me an explanation? Then what are you debating for? Because you don't have an explanation. Its just ignorance and arrogance on your part.
isasooner5 3 months ago
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@isasooner5 It's so funny how you people feel the need to use profanity and fowl language in your rants. That shows that I've frustrated you and you've already lost the argument. talking about pixies and fairies other nonsense that has nothing to due with what we're debating. When a person gets upset and can't think of anything intelligent to say like you, that's when I know I've got em.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 ...ummmm there's nothing to debate .. the burden of proof is on you for thinking a deity is floating around there somewhere that created everything. lol ... and you should be a little more prudent with the use of the word "ignorance". You're obviously recycling that word because your own ignorance is staggering. There's no debate here ... you have no evidence whatsoever for your pink unicorn, your yellow elephant or your deity. It's an open and shut case.
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
I reiterate what I've said before.Do you realize the Qur'an talks about people like you over and over. God warns us against people who reject him and his existence even after clear signs come to them. You also can't prove I a higher power doesn't exist. We acknowledge science and are urged to learn it. Just because you advocate science doesn't mean you should deny the one is in charge of the science and evolution of the universe. You people are in the vast majority in your belief
isasooner5 2 months ago
in this world on deny the existence of an almighty higher power. More than 2 billion Christians, more than 1.5 billion Muslims, millions of Jews and countless others. I'd rather have faith and belief in something than nothing at all.not just science because as you already know, just science alone can't prove everything and will never prove everything. that's why we belief in a higher power to help us understand who's responsible for the unexplained. Every one is going to find out
isasooner5 2 months ago
soon enough don't worry. on the day of judgement when you have to answer for your beliefs and practices in life don't complain or be surprised when God tells you I'm am most just to all my creation I gave fair warning over and over to believe in me and not be corrupted by the devil who is your open enemy, whose job it is to lead you astray. So now burn in the eternal fire. So you can believe in whatever you want to, God allows you to. As we say, be you to your way and me to mine.
isasooner5 2 months ago
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@isasooner5 ... sorry, we're not obliged to share your guilt and fear. There is no "judgement" coming. Your warnings are based on your fear and confusion of what and where you are in the scheme of your own existence. Man up and educate yourself properly. At the moment, people are laughing at you. There is no "god" looking down on you giving you the nod at your silly ramblings. No one is trying to lead you astray ... we're trying to help you.
oODarkEnergyOo 2 months ago
@oODarkEnergyOo ignore them for they know what not they do lol
afertyus1000 1 month ago
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@isasooner5 ... let me entertain the fantasy for a moment ... afterall, it's fun. If I meet your deity when I die, this will be the short conversation:
ME: "Well well well, so you WERE there and you created all of this. No way dude!"
DEITY: "Ah see, and after all that evil shit your wrote on YouTube, you want to get in here huh?"
ME: "Oh fuck no ... send me to straight to hell so I can burn."
DEITY: "What the fuck? Why?"
ME: "Because you're an absolute fucking cunt"
oODarkEnergyOo 2 months ago
@isasooner5 I don't wanna start hating on you but I will give you some sound advice; learn how to properly spell before going online and raging about your beliefs. No one will take you seriously if you write like a twelve year old.
cloud50006 1 month ago
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isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 oh so we have to burn then? what a loving god you follow! yawn
afertyus1000 1 month ago
@isasooner5 why make it up then? atheists can't prove it nor can religious so it is just filling in a gap [what humans do ]
afertyus1000 1 month ago
@isasooner5 ....oh however you DID use the word arrogance correctly. Whenever a rational person deals with the question of deities ... it DOES come across as arrogant because when we talk to people like you ... no offense intended here ... but it's like talking to a 5 year old who gets angry when we won't "believe" in your imaginary friend. There's no way to be kind about this. Sorry. You're deluded and you don't realise it.
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
@isasooner5 do you have faith there is a god? then YOU have to prove it not the other way around if you called the police and said a ghost had stolen food from your fridge then you wold have to prove it to the police there was a ghost, that is how i think of your god
afertyus1000 1 month ago
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isasooner5 1 month ago
@oODarkEnergyOo You can't prove that a higher power doesn't exist its impossible. What, just because you can't see him? As Muslims, that is the most grievous sin is to deny the one who created you and allowed you to gain and advance in scientific knowledge to come with different theories. The one who allows you to live. That's what happening to atheists and Scientology when they think they've gained a certain amount of knowledge they become arrogant and reject their lord and creator Human flaw
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 ... You can't prove that there isn't a big yellow elephant floating around the moon ... you can't. What, just because you can't see it?
So it's a sin to deny the existence of something that doesn't exist ... how convenient for all you Muslims (especially since it allows you to treat your women like cattle) lol
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
You just don't want to work and strive and struggle and give your sinful corruptive ways because you are to weak-minded and hearted to sacrifice things in this life to get to our ultimate goal, eternal paradise. That's your excuse. It doesn't have anything to do with believing you just don't want restrictions and regulations and morality and piety and humbleness. Why is it that I am strong enough to abstain from certain sin and corruption and you and other people can't. Weakness,Laziness.
isasooner5 3 months ago
That's our test in life. God gave man free will for a purpose. to choose to believe and submit to or not. But ultimately we are going to answer for what we did and choose to believe in this life. The thing is judging by the way you think. God hasn't blessed you with the fear and hope in him and the consciousness and awareness of his existence. As Muslims we believe God guides whom he wills and leads astray whom he wills and no human can influence that person either way without God's will.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 ... just more lazy, illogical and irrational banter ... nothing you say even makes sense. Why say it?
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
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You know it makes. you just refuse to acknowledge it. Your to stubborn and ignorant.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@oODarkEnergyOo Amen!
Frutoses 2 months ago
@oODarkEnergyOo You poor misguided little child. You're obviously an angry and confused individual. Of course it's an easy option to not believe in God but the fact is if it weren't for God then you wouldn't exist. Jesus promises you in the bible that if you come to Him he will give you peace and understanding and you WILL be forgiven. "There is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:1)
clayden82 2 months ago
@clayden82. That isn't a fact. Jesus didn't write the bible. I don't need to be forgiven by anyone but the person i've wronged. If I go to hell for being a good person, non-believer while a pedophile rapist gives himself to christianity and goes to heaven then I am more morally correct than your God.
trocknickel 2 months ago 39
@trocknickel Couldn't agree with you more, pity a vast majority people don't.
spark122ful 2 months ago
@trocknickel Atheists believe something came from NOTHING!!! The Universe created it self with enough Time matter and energy! Then molecules assembled them selves! Homochirality is a disaster for atheism! This is what led Frances collins to leave atheism!
5tonyvvvv 1 month ago
@5tonyvvvv. Atheists do not need to believe something came from nothing. One could simply say "I do not know if the universe is finite or infinite and no one has show any evidence as to a creator." Francis Collins is one accredited scientist who believes among a field of accredited scientists that don't believe. Are you assuming that Mr. Collins has a special type of reasoning that 90% (amount of disbelievers) of the Royal Academy of Scientists are not privy to?
trocknickel 1 month ago
@trocknickel Where did you get this information? I would do some serious biblical study. Why? How can you make a wise decision?
Your missing the whole point of WHY men do not make it to heaven (pride and arrogance). Two thieves condemned to die with Jesus on cross; one thief mocks Jesus and the other knows he is the Son of God. And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!" And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise." Luke 23:42-43
yhenry77 1 month ago
@yhenry77. I've read from the bible and have studied and watched numerous religious debates. I would suggest you do some serious scientific study - start with abiogenesis. As for where I got my information, a simple google search would suffice. Youtube is not allowing me to post a link so google "Intelligent people less likely to believe in God" and read the telegraph article detailing the studies.
trocknickel 1 month ago
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ThePero20111 1 month ago
@trocknickel abiogenesis? As of 2012 no scientific projects has created a living single cell. The closest so far; J. Craig Venter Inst. on May 21, 2010 the largest man-made DNA structure by synthesizing and assembling the 582,970 base pair genome of a bacterium called Mycoplasma genitalium. BTW: they used a host cell (not abiogenesis); it would NOT spontaneously come alive. It took 15 years, 21 scientists and super computer. This breakthrough is considered an Intelligent Design project, right?
yhenry77 1 month ago
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"abiogenesis? As of 2012 no scientific projects has created a living single cell."
- you dont need to demonstrate something inorder to provide evidence it occurred eg. Pluto has never been observed to orbit the sun, but based on it's current movements we have incredibly strong evidence it did.
- Testable predictions are one of the best forms of evidence in science and it is the testable predictions of abiogenesis that have made it the BEST and MOST WELL EVIDENCED explanation
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@types10000 Testable predictions are one of the best forms of evidence? Ok, show me any peer review papers of abiogenesis using basic blocks of life (ATCG); I think you'll find MOST scientists will not touch this subject with 10 foot pole! Why is that?
They know any scientific experiment or project succeeding in abiogenesis is very remote or impossible. You notice in debates; 75 years of failed abiogenesis projects or experiments is ignored. Why? if ALL of life need millions of cells to adapt?
yhenry77 1 month ago
@yhenry77. I meant to address you as well in my other comment but it did not seem to link you. Anyway, as I mentioned, you are attempting a God of the Gap argument. Here is a terrific website that links to abiogenesis, the false claims made against it, and in their words "the enormous process made since the Miller-Urey experiments...". No need to make disingenuous claims or attempt strawman arguments (no one said scientists created a living single cell) Google 'talk origins' 'abiogenesis'.
trocknickel 1 month ago
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SithSpectre 1 month ago
@SithSpectre. yhenry77. I'm confused, do you both think because a scientific experiment failed to create a living single cell that this necessarily leads to the fact that there needs to be a deity? This is a classic God of the Gaps argument. SithSpectre you seem easily impressed with people throwing out names of Doctors and scientific wording.The fact of abiogenesis is that life has come, in certain specific conditions, from inorganic matter from natural processes.
trocknickel 1 month ago
@trocknickel necessarily leads to the fact that there needs to be a deity? That is just MY hypothesis "only God can create life"; some may call it the result of Intelligent Design. That is their choice, right?
My question to you: How long are willing to wait? Another 75 years and they will not be any closer than they are now. Don't you see the paradox; that life is created ALL around us every second (animals, insects, birds, single cells) and they cannot explain HOW.
yhenry77 1 month ago
@yhenry77. Your hypothesis is without a shred of evidence. There is nothing to suggest that. I hate to repeat myself but this is God of the gaps to the highest extent. This is how I perceive your question: How long am I willing to wait for empirical evidence and observation (i.e. scientific method) to answer how life began before I decide to make a unfounded assumption based on personal want or faith. My answer is I hope to never be too weak or too gullible to not care about the what is true.
trocknickel 1 month ago
@trocknickel without a shred of evidence? mmmm Let's see 75 years of mankind trying to create life (abiogenesis) and failing.
yhenry77 1 month ago
@yhenry77. Your comment shows your extreme ignorance. Not discovering something doesn't mean it's not there. I try to be as diplomatic as possible in these discussion but I would be throughly embarrassed if I made a comment such as your previous one. Tell that to Galileo (well 75 years prior, no one showed the earth was round) Sorry John Dalton (no one had a comprehensive atomic theory prior, how could you possibly be correct) Sorry Stanley Miller and Harold Urey, yhenry77 calls your bullshit.
trocknickel 1 month ago
@trocknickel What about science theory do you not understand? Evidence and proof is ALWAYS required. We have an experiment for 75 years and it's unsuccessful; isn't that a HINT? BTW if all scientists had read the bible.
"the circle of the earth" Isaiah 40:22
"things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” Hebrews 11:3
“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.”
― Galileo Galilei
yhenry77 1 month ago
@yhenry77. This is getting ridiculous. 75 years of not successfully showing something in various scientific experiments does not mean that it does not exist. I won't continue discussing how absurd your definition of evidence is anymore. As for the Earth being round - Isaiah 11:12 talks about "the four quarters of the earth". Here is another beauty google search to refute your quote mining - google - "talk origins" and "earth round".
trocknickel 1 month ago
@trocknickel "the four quarters of the earth"? Like I said in my first comment you need to do more bible study. It's "the four quarters of the earth" Isaiah 11:12 which talks about locations of the earth. In Isaiah 40:22, the circle of the earth - Or rather, "above" (על ‛al) the circle of the earth. The word rendered 'circle' (חוּג chûg) denotes "a circle, sphere, or arch"; and is applied to the arch or vault of the heavens.
yhenry77 1 month ago
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This kind of post-hoc reasoning is incredibly unconvincing. Mostly because you choose the parts that obviously sound insightful and ignore the bits the bible got wrong. By your logic, the ancient hindu scriptures must be true because they actually claimed that there were other planets than ours. The bible seemed to miss that fact. This has GOT to be water-tight reasoning....
GodTheHypothesis 1 month ago
@yhenry77. Oh the four locations of the earth... wow that makes so much more sense. How could I have missed that? As I said, google "talk origins" and "earth round". The Bible is the big book of multiple choice, while "bible study" in modern times attempts to explain away the Church's distrust for science by stating "oh we knew the earth was round, check out Isaiah". Please please please just check out the google search and read it. Your point has been reasonably refuted a million times.
trocknickel 1 month ago
@yhenry77. We can explain precisely how life is created around us at every moment. We have a complete understanding of how organic matter replicates and breeds. What we do not know is how everything came to be prior to the Big Bang. Before you go throwing assertions/questions around that you cannot answer either about events before the Big Bang, understand the crux of the argument: We do not know what occurred before it but we can observe that natural processes work without positing a deity.
trocknickel 1 month ago
@trocknickel we can observe that natural processes work? The main issue with evolution is we know WHAT was created, but we do not know HOW. If aliens came to our earth and saw an automobile for the first time. They categorized them by size, color, make and model. They even followed their movements and observed where they were built. They then asked a question: Are these automobiles created naturally or is there an Intelligent Designer? Remember this, next time you see a bird, dog or human being.
yhenry77 1 month ago
@trocknickel Completely agree with you - I will gladly accept my 'punishment' if I'm wrong - if god wanted us to be bleating sheep, following his every command then why are so free thinking and free willed?
eithnejack 4 weeks ago
@clayden82, how can you be sure it isn't a trap to separate the genuinely decent people from the filthy scum? In my opinion, no decent person would relish the idea that they need only ask for an eternity in heaven to earn such a reward. Perhaps the story of Jesus is mean to establish which people are morally bankrupt enough, as individuals, to actually embrace the idea of having someone else punished for their sins. I know of no decent peson who would not be appalled by such a deep injustice.
ananiasacts 2 months ago
@clayden82 ... let me guess ... you can't handle the fact that you'll die and there is nothing afterward ... total ending ... the long sleep ... nothingness ... oblivion ... or is it that you're just fooling yourself into thinking you'll see a close dead relative again when you die ... what is it about reality that disgusts you so ... that you need to blindly believe in ramblings written thousands of years ago by people who had no idea what the fuck is going on around them?
oODarkEnergyOo 1 month ago
@clayden82 ... why be afraid of the end? Don't be afraid. Were you afraid all those billions of years prior to you being born and attaining self awareness? No, you were not. So why will you be in fear or pain for all the billions of years AFTER you die? The fact is, you simply can't cognitively digest what the fuck you actually are ... or where you are. Put the ancient manuscripts down and broaden your knowledge of cosmology, biology and psychology ... a potent combination.
oODarkEnergyOo 1 month ago
@oODarkEnergyOo Why does it seem that there cannot be an intelligent debate over these topics without it resulting in insults. I am an atheist and do not believe in other's traditions, but I would prefer arguing my point of view and beliefs rather than just saying "fuck you", people like you are the reason the masses believe atheists pompous assholes.
bobano10011 1 month ago
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IMO non aggressive atheists pave the way for more religious tards
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@bobano10011 ... there's nothing to debate here. The debate ended a thousands times in the lecture halls of universities and around dinner tables. There is no argument here ... only entertainment ... that's all that's left now. You can feel offended and moan all you like but nothing will change ... deities will still be imaginary and proof of their existence is highly unlikely to ever show up. That's just the way it is ...
oODarkEnergyOo 1 month ago
@oODarkEnergyOo AMEN!
CurryCobra 1 month ago
To all your religious twists and fanatics ... If you can't bring yourself to face your fear that all our knowledge points to the fact that existence is blind and devoid of any real purpose, then deal with your fears in your darkest hour and save your preaching for your mirror. Don't try and lay blame and guilt on other human beings. Don't demand fear from us. Get fucked.
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
It's like this ... look at these two statements:
"I think there is a god up there and I believe in Him" ... ok no worries. Knock yourself out and enjoy.
"I know there is a god up there and I believe in Him" ... ok prove it you fucktard! pwned, slammed, canned and banned! Period. End of story. Case closed.
Thinking something and thinking you KNOW something is completely different in my book and you're a fraud if you think your KNOW there is a deity floating around who "created" everything ...
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
EVERYONE!! Go to Wikipedia and look up Isaac newtons religious views. It states plane as day Isaac newton viewed god as the masterful whose existence could not be denied. It also states that he was opposed to the trinitarian belief, that worshiping Jesus or any other deity other than god was idolatry, the fundamental sin. Sir Isaac newton the father of modern physics and one of the pioneers of western science believes in God and confirmed his existence. and not just him, others as well.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 aww check you out believing in fairy tales,shhhhh its ok you dont need to preach to us, surely youd be better off spending your time paying to your air fairy than trying to convince the supposed damned atheist of something that cannot be proven, just because isaac newton believed there was a higher power (in a time when to think any different was more frowned upon than today) does not mean i instantly have to agree with him, for all i know he might have liked sprouts, i however dont
aikikev 3 months ago
@aikikev ... I could have thought of dozens of simple explanations for this tool ((isasooner5)) but why bother .. I've started to come to terms with the fact that evolution won't allow some brains to literally "evolve" so they can understand their own existence better .. LMFAO ... it's just scary to see such ridiculous shit in these comments and to think these people have kids and families and friends they preach this bullshit to.
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
Everyone! what good has atheism and Scientology done to world? what tangible contributions have been reaped from these beliefs? Religions have Have built hospitals, schools, banks, non-profit organizations, interfaith organizations and programs countless other things that have saved and helped countless lives all over the world from all different types of religions at least the 3 major monotheistic religions Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 ha ha is all i can reply to this,
aikikev 3 months ago
@isasooner5 .... um ... Atheism and Scientology have very very little in common. You see ... because you're so poorly educated in critical areas (aka dumb) ... you think that the "Scient" part of the word "Scientology" means "all of science" and because many Atheists tend to hold the sciences close in very high regard ... you're connecting the two. Now if you understand what I just said, you may be able to redeem yourself. If not, then you truly are ... extremely fucking dumb.
oODarkEnergyOo 1 month ago
For all you atheists and scientologists who follow Richard dawkins, will be surprised to know that from a video I saw of a Man who has masters degrees in philosophy of science etc. from Duke University He did a thesis and Discovered that Newton the father of modern physic. wrote papers on the existence of God and wrote papers against the trinity and how it's impossible for god to have a son. These are the pioneers of modern science and there's not just one or two, multiples that actually saw
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 science as a way of confirming god's existence not denying. science pioneers from the western world So today there is this delusion that if you study more science you're supposed to reject God its one or the other. That's false. Actually the Holy Qur'an Does the exact opposite. it challenges you to study science because when you study science you become closer and appreciate the creation and ultimately the creator.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 ... you're so excited and confused that you're replying to yourself quite often ... you need to take some "time out" I think ... LOL
oODarkEnergyOo 2 months ago
@isasooner5 and your point is?
aikikev 3 months ago
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only a fool can believe in amino acids falling into a ocean that formed out of nothing "believeing" that it was all the right tempurtures, and just the rite salt mixes to create a living cell, this is a mind of someone loving there desires and trying to live in a fatacsy world using real things things that was created by a Creater that is most supreme and ultimatly know more then we ll humans ever think of...
KJFilmProductions 3 months ago
See a great lecture called: story of life origins: the obvious version
Gives a fresh look at the development of life, from the point of view of the developers of THING: an autonomous nano-machines complex, designed to auto clone itself out of molecules and energy that it gathers from its ambient.
Basic systems are described, including a quality control system named EVO1.
Suggests: if we put aside our preconditioning , and look just at the hard evidence, this becomes the OBVIOUS story of LIFE.
joflavius 3 months ago
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If you want to do the right thing, then for the next two years only research what is wrong with evolution and you'll have a different outlook on the whole debate. You see, all (or almost all) of us have been thoroughly schooled in the myth of evolution, because it was shoved down our throughts in public school. On the other hand, most haven't had a fair opportunity to understand what is so wrong with evolution. Try to do some honest research before you support one side of the debate.
CoopersQuill 3 months ago
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Hi Mr. Atheist as a proof for your atheism create for me a small mosquito!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring a proof not only a theory with more than 1000000 assumption.
akeello 3 months ago
Britain is playhing with fire having publicly financed religious schools.
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ThatOperaLad 3 months ago
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@sieracki001 Don't get me started on Germany... The state collects church taxes and bishops are paid by the state... While teachers of religion in public schools are paid by the church.
ThatOperaLad 3 months ago
lol at 6:26 when 3 of them cross their legs at the exact same time.
graterexperience 3 months ago
LISTEN TO WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING.... They are breeding a form of "christianity" which i like to call "cultural christianity". Barry Sheerman said that you couldn't even tell that my kids had gone to a particularly religious or faith based schools
TheChristcrucified 3 months ago
Where are the "Klingons"?
bermudaguy1 3 months ago
religious schools - bigoted and proud of it
shumble32 4 months ago
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akeello 4 months ago
we humans dont understand a DAMN thing. we strongly believe in evolution yet we enslave our primate cousins and make fun of them and disrespect them. how much are we of value when we enslave animals and disrespect nature. you know life has to have a balance. all of these earthquakes and floods are the earth is limbo. there is a huge unblanace taking place. the earth is speaking listen to it. it is older than any religion.
ericdisney1 4 months ago 2
You actually still believe humans come from primates? HAHAHA! All the natural and man made disasters are all part of the Almighty's will to test human beings faith in him. To see just because a tragedy or disaster occurs are we going to lose faith and give up on him. the trials and tribulations in life occur to test mankind. That's why he gave human beings and only humans the right to free will to choose what we believe and do but we are ultimately going to be responsible for all the we do.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 ... Um ... you're misreprenting the facts about evolution here. As usual :)
Nothing new here! Just more dogmatic banter.
oODarkEnergyOo 3 months ago
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1- Correction: We don't "come from" primates...we ARE primates. :)
2- Just because some things are a mystery to us does not = GOD. That is a non-sequitur.
3- How can humans be so arrogant as to think a transcendent being powerful enough to create the cosmos cares a LICK about the prayers of some puny primates on an insignificant speck of dust orbiting a humdrum star off to the side of one of a billion galaxies?
Put THAT one in your religious pipe and smoke it. >=D
Kinin4 3 months ago 62
@Kinin4 Lovely :) Beautifully put sir :)
VoiceOfTheAbyss 2 months ago
@Kinin4 .."a being that can create the cosmos cares about primates on a speck of dust orbiting a humdrum star in one of a billion galaxies?"
Nicely put. Few can really grasp the scale of the cosmos. Recent evidence suggests the visible universe contains upward of 100 billion galaxies. A large galaxy (an elliptical) can contain upward of a trillion (10^12) stars. The potential for planetary systems, and therefore life, is staggering. I've not met a christian or muslim who understands any of this
gangster3591 2 months ago
@Kinin4 Absolutely right.. /high five
MegaWarsaw 2 months ago
@isasooner5 What a cock, i actually hope that i am wrong and that there is some kind of magical oxygen pixie, and hopefully it'll be a different one to the one you believe in, maybe even a pixie of reasoning and logic that decides to punish people who just blindly believe in fairy tales without thinking how logically obsurd it is, howver im still sticking with the fact of death being the end that suits me down to the ground
aikikev 3 months ago
It's so funny how you people feel the need to use profanity and fowl language in your rants. That shows that I've frustrated you and you've already lost the argument. talking about pixies and fairies other nonsense that has nothing to due with what we're debating. When a person gets upset and can't think of anything intelligent to say like you, that's when I know I've got em.
isasooner5 3 months ago
@isasooner5 i think you'll find pixies and faries etc have a lot to do with what we are discussing, in that they too have no evidence to prove they have, do or ever will exist and you take this as fact (i hope) what you need to understand is this how we percieve your belief in a god, as an unconditional belief contrary to sceintific evidence and common sense........ oh hang on i forgot to add FUCK since that automattically means you win apparently
aikikev 3 months ago
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@aikikev . WATCH THIS VIDEO IN IT'S ENTIRETY BELOW. SPECIFICALLY DR. ZAKIR NAIK, ON THE QUR'AN AND THE BIBLE IN THE LIGHT OF MODERN SCIENCE, THEN WRITE ALL REPLIES.
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isasooner5 1 month ago
@ericdisney1 ... don't speak for every human walking this planet ... you have no call on that.
oODarkEnergyOo 2 months ago
@oODarkEnergyOo watch the documentary hubble 3d. it shows our planet from outer space. also shows the beauty of space. earth is the only planet we know of that nourishes and protects us. from outerspace the pcean and lands look so perfect. that was not a mistake. something non human created or allowed these things to happen. whatever this thing unknown is, it is divine and i respect it. call it god, call it energy, love, doctor healer mother , whatever name you want.
ericdisney1 2 months ago
@ericdisney1 but to say there is nothing there. that it was an evolving form of energy that is non existent . i refuse. dont let religion formed by human hands darken your own energy and ghost because of their foul play on human kind
ericdisney1 2 months ago
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@ericdisney1 ... it all sounds very romantic and just a little bit convenient too. It's less ignorance than it is confusion on your part. You're filling in the gaps in your knowledge of basic physics ... with a creator / designer ... if you understood even simple principles of astrophysics, you'd realise that this ball of rock and iron formed based on those principles. The more popular works of Kaku and Hawking will clear your confusion up ... and make you feel a little embarrassed.
oODarkEnergyOo 2 months ago
@ericdisney1 @ericdisney1 Watch "The Pale Blue Dot". It's a short (less than 5 min) segment from Carl Sagan's series Cosmos. I don't think it will sway your opinion that a supreme being created this planet and all that is on it but it may make you think of the insignificance of our tiny oasis in the vast cosmos. If there are billions of galaxies each containing billions of suns then there maybe billions of other 'oasis' in the universe. We used to thing the earth was the center of the universe
hunt5714 2 months ago
@hunt5714 i will watch it. but just so you know partner. we humans put a name to every thing. we even put one on the creator. we drink water. we need sunlight. we need food. we need love. we need each other. we always are needing arent we. wonder why. and who gives?
ericdisney1 2 months ago
@hunt5714 all i know is that the light is good. could be we are light beings. when we die we return to the light. whatever name people wanna give that light is up to them. i prefer creator. sounds good.
ericdisney1 2 months ago