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  • All Fox needs to be successful is a dumb enough audience to listen to them. Stop watching them.. Seriously.. watch pbs or bbc, or cnn, Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert..

  • Definitely lying. When different anchors are covering the same story, they will be comparing notes. Fox and friends will have had that info and omitted it for the purpose of spin. Nothing the rleigious right like more than being the martyr.

  • Fox News is the only one that tells the truth, when was the last time you heard nbc news talk about Fast & Furious?

  • @bmwz3m1 Are you really that deaf and blind or are you just ignorant? Fox News is guilty of systematic lies and misinformation on a daily basis. They are nothing more than a propaganda machine for the GOP. It has been proven that Fox News viewers are less informed than people who watch no news at all.

  • I live in milton florida, (right next to pace) and this kind of religous crap is going on like mad around here....... I have never seen anything like this before, there are still people and churches churning over this and inciting prayer in schools.

  • Religion CANNOT be ENFORCED on anyone as stated by the US CONSTITUTION. You see kids, this is how you end up with stupid people that watch Fox News and form a group called the Tea Party, which is really only the KKK with a 10 point higher IQ.

  • @Tradeofjane Tea Party gives a bad name for actual tea parties.

  • We dont get fox in the uk but the bbc is full of it to

  • I am sick. I am not into the republican party or anything they represent.

    I have a total crush on Megyn Kelly.

  • 57 fox news workers disliked this vidio

  • No praying "of this type"? Did Megyn Kelly accurately describe the words of Frank lay OR Robert Freeman (they)? If no praying "of this type" is to not continue, then what "type" of praying should be deemed suitable?, (as if any person at all anywhere in this country should pre-approve the content of any prayer uttered by any citizen anywhere). This is such a poisonous issue.

  • no videos about MSNBC bias.... Gasping from shock... not.

  • I think O'Reilly stupid fucking shithead waves cancel out Megyn Kelly's thundercunt emanations, because she seems to tell the truth fairly often when paired with him.

  • @LiberalViewer As a colleague, nice primer on the notice to the body is notice to the head. However, unlike you, I will call fox liars.

    I read where the doocey joke said, on a segment about swabbing for DNA at the airport could be faked by putting another s DNA in your mouth-I guess like kissing. Have you been able to find, and, if so, could you provide me with the clip?

  • @MrEatonbeaver wrote: "I read where the doocey joke said, on a segment about swabbing for DNA at the airport could be faked by putting another s DNA in your mouth-I guess like kissing. Have you been able to find, and, if so, could you provide me with the clip?"

    See bit(.)ly/DoocyDNA

    (take the parentheses out of that address when pasting it into your browser)

    I hope that helps and

    thanks for commenting :-)

  • Well you see, the 1930's brought about this Austrian dude named Hitler right? And Hitler showed everyone that we needed to blame other people for shit not being exactly how we want it in the world.

    The 40's had the fight against fascism

    The 50's had the fight against Socialism

    The 80's had the war on drugs.

    Every once and a while, instead of coming out and telling everyone "Hey, we're kind of clueless on this shit." politicians need someone else to point at hysterically and blame.

  • They need a permanent disclaimer on the fox news channel ticker:

    'not intended to be a factual statement'

  • fox news is not news. it is tabloid journalism. the national star or national enquirer. it is really a talk show of conservatives promoting their viewpoints. the women on the show are hot, even guest ann coulter. o'reilly is annoying

  • Good, Fuck them.

  • As a former student of Pace High School [who was there while all this was going on], I would like to point out to people that there actually WERE students at that luncheon. The students weren't having the luncheon with them. They were the cooking students that prepared the meal. I don't think I've seen anything in the media from this case point that out.

  • there are two tricks fox likes to use that evolve around one concept. lie. either by lying, or by lying..

    first they create the news. andrew breitbart and james o'keefe are good examples. they then politicize the fake story and run it. it has many effects. acorn was stripped by a fake story, shirley sherrod was fired. sometimes they run it until it's picked up by corporate media like death panels and victory mosque's. or it can be repeated demonizing, like the aclu.

  • Yeah, this is on a scale equal to Dan Rathers fraudulent reporting. Get real! We all watch msnbc and we all know the mantra... Democrats good-Republicans bad-Democrats good-Republicans bad-Democrats good-Fox News bad...get a life!

  • Well that's the fox news trademark, silly! If a story didn't have a well placed pinch of lies, it wouldn't be from fox news!

  • It depends upon what you call lying. Fox News slants hat they say and implies things without ever making blatantly wrong statements outright. They slant things and let the viewer reached the conclusion they want the viewer to reach. They also leave out critical information. Is this lying? Maybe not, but it's certainly manipulation. Why would anyone watch a so-called news outlet that attempts to manipulate them?

  • good put those religious wackos in jail.

  • Great distraction and great vide0!! thank u webmovietube

  • i do not support the ACLU and this is a minor thing.

  • school is not a place of worship it is a place of learning and progression

  • every student in every school in america should say the Lords prayer every day at a set time at the same time no matter what.if they get suspended or go to jail,do it again when back in school.continue to pray.no one not even lay can stop you.allways give thanks for your food.

  • the aclu are nothing but thugs and hypocrits

    if i pray in school and im a christian im the one that gets sued whatever happened to my civil liberties

    i wish someone would sue the hell out of the ACLU and hope the new congress looks into this corrupted group

  • @thecreat12 you're gay

  • This is nothing but mild propaganda for anti fox news people who rather find reasons to hate than watch and judge for themselves.  Fox and Friends does a lot of these nice and short segments, albeit sometimes paraphrased in favor of the right agenda. Most of foxes big ticket shows (hannity,o'reilly, etc) do a much better job of showing all sides where as channels like msnbc do nothing but one sided reporting and analysis. If fox was as bad as the haters make it seem, they wouldn't dominate.

  • to say that because a company has the collective knowledge of its members does not mean that if one of its members says something that is misinformed and another knows the facts, that does not mean the company is lying, only if the individual giving the misinformation knows it is misinformation and is intending to decieve.

    it maybe that the other news reader is being decietful, but its also just as likely he is being ignorant

  • emancipe ya self from fox news..lol

  • There is legal precedent which states that lying to the public on the news is not illegal.

  • wow such bright responders , , attack christians , attack people as stupid , funny how this guy hates fox buyt watchs so much

  • @DON351W No, whats funny and stupid is that people think they can telepathically communicate with some 2000 year old undead guy. Whats funny is that you fail to grasp the idea of knowing ones enemy.

  • @EntinludeX so you concider it the wise thing to do fight what you say isn't real lol, I've never wasted 1 breath fighting vampires, yet you not only fight what you say isnt real, you call it the enemy ,, now I am sure you'll use the lame exscuse you're fighting ignorence or you're trying to educate lol go find a vampire , i'll help you stake it

  • @DON351W One neend't spend time fighting vampires as vampires arn't the generally accepted myth. Gods are the generally accepted myths.

    No, the gods arn't the enemy, the sycophantic delusional followers of god myths are the enemy. now I am sure you'll use the lame exscuse that your myth is more viable than other myths. So go find an existing god worth worshiping and I'll help you worship it.

  • @DON351W Seems you can't sort the subjective opinions from the objective consequences. If vampires were the prevailing myth of the day you would have a point and there would be a need to stem that ignorance.

    As it turns out the prevailing myth of the day is that of deities. But I'm glad you compared Christianity to belief in vampires. Thats probably about right anyway/

    I am sure you'll use the lame exscuse, so go find a deity. What? No evidence? LOL. Maroon.

  • @EntinludeX so christain believers cause you pain how,, and if not believing is so easy why fight believers

  • @DON351W You mean besides the fact that they lower the educational standards of the country by prosteletizing their myths as fact even unto the highest offices of the land?

    You don't need to cause me pain, to be fundamentally wrong. Guess you don't care to sort fact from fiction.

  • @DON351W Who said not believing was easy? Skepticism is hard.

    Believing is easy. Any fool can believe myths.

    Critical thinking takes far more work.

    Again, it seems you can't sort the subjective opinions from the objective consequences. Or you don't care.

  • Fox News should be held accountable in court for blatant defamation, not just of the ACLU but also any one person or organization that does not share it's far right point of view.

    By the way, when Fox News lies about someone it's not slander, it's technically called libel. Which is a much more severe in my opinion.

  • I'm an atheist and i think that Prayer should definately be allowed in public schools!

  • Do people still watch Fox News?? Haven't they figured out by now that it's "for entertainment only". Fox News has a rightwing spin on everything they say. FACT!! Fair and Balanced my ass! When Bush was president they used to say" no matter if he's good or bad, we need to support our president". But now, they just cant attack Obama enough! Where is that unbiased support??? Fox News is a rightwing corporate damage control channel!

  • @CricketSayWhat Do people still watch fox? Are you for real? Fox numbers go up every month and the other State Controled Media channels are going dropping! Fox is killing them all. Pew Research says that their are more dems and independants that watch fox news then repubs. Sorry charlie!

  • Fox News ..... liar lair, pants on fire! Not fair! wa wa wa

    Go back to kindergarden cry baby libs.

    If truth was so important to you then go after Obama's lies that healthcare would be cheaper after it passed and Palosi stating that Obamacare passing would create 400,000 jobs almost instantly after passing.

    Fox News Rocks and so will November 2nd. Sorry chumps!

  • @jefftrout1 get offline you old farting pedophile.

  • @dennisrayso Be nice denny you girlyboy.

  • @jefftrout1 jesus played with his asshole before i made him come into a glass cup where we both drank from.

    see jesus was gay

  • sigh... the people who do most harm to religion are its practitioners

  • I've had enough of these disingenuous assertions.

  • What do I think . God is real and everyone who does not receive salvation will burn in a everlasting fire. For mans righteousness is as filthy rags. There now you know the truth. MAy God allmighty open your spiritual eyes before its too late in Jesus name I PRAY!!

  • @GospelTruth37059

    God is imaginary.

  • @GospelTruth37059 ... who is this fake god you speak of, why should i have to live my life according to rules b your fake god and fake religion?

    Oh I live in the United States of America, I dont have to.

  • @GospelTruth37059 propaganda

    go fix yourself before you try fixing others, fagot.

    Jesus enjoyed fish hooking his asshole until it ripped.

  • steve douchey and the guy with the receding dark hair should be ashamed. these old frat boys are not aging well at all. see what lies and evil intent will get you?

  • Wow, Just WOW. . . They would never be able to get away with this kind of shit in the UK we have laws against this kind of disingenuous bullshit.

  • They kill in the name of Alah, Who's dead and in the ground. We Pray in the name of JESUS, Who rose and never was found. They think that their going to heaven, With virgins plenty for all. We know were going to Heaven, Even though we fall. The koran is just a book, Writen by a fool. The BIBLE is the answer, HIS LIVING PERFECT TOOL.

  • @75summob To bad God doesn't exist. Or otherwise your gay little poem might have had some meaning.

  • I'll have to agree with ThaGodWeCreate who says that Fox isnt doing anything new... Especially not that guy!!! LOL

  • tha media lies to us all tha time...nothin new

  • I think it is very sad that places like restaurant epecially McDonald's and military bases shouldn't have FOX NEWS on their TV's, very sad and scary that some young people are watching that news channel lies about many things including our President!

  • Fox = Big fucking joke.

  • Another shining example of why religion should be kept out of politics!

  • I don't blame "Fox and Friends"! I wouldn't make anyone watch O'Lielly.

  • Thanks for exposing this story liberalviewer!

  • great research. I've long been frusrrated by continued attempts to demonize aclu who, more than almost anyone, support legal freedoms

  • Megan may be stupid but she was honest at least - I like her - not her fault she's dumber than a box of rocks. If your going to be a bimbo - be pretty - good for you Megan!!!

  • @billoakesattablthree Megan is as bad as any of them.She was simply covering Fox News by acting like a correction had been offered. The method fox uses so often is to put out their lies and distortions in a huge way....then put out a disclaimer or correction in a minor way. There should be laws about misrepresentation by News Media of the facts, and in my opinion, Fox should bwe shut down...period.

  • Fair and balanced?????? BULLSHIT!!!!!!! The SPIN starts with FAUX !!!!!

  • How anyone can believe ANYTHING on Faux News is beyond me! Good God!

  • hell yat they were and they are imeter idots who think religin and poltick are the same

  • fox news susuck.all tha girls are so far up em self.and the blokes all need a good upper cut,bunc of racist fucks.

  • Guilty as fuck ;D

  • Why can't our news media be like you. You have supported every argument with facts, without character assassination and hyperbole. Your tag line should be "the way news should be." Thank you

  • Yea check out Hannity and Newt lie about the Obama nuclear treaty. Soon they will push the lies too far.

  • Fox News spread lies and misinformation, big surprise!

  • Fuck Fox News, they are the biggest liars in history and if someone burned down their fuckin building in Georgia and killed O'reilly, Beck, and Hannity, i wouldnt spare a single sad thought, i'd laugh and say good fucking riddance.

  • @Jarut195  Wow, sounds like you are a tollerant liberal.

  • @MetalDetroit or anarchist lawl

  • how old is this? o reilly still has hair.

  • i wanna grudge fuck megan kelly, and im mexican

  • Many accuse critics of Fox of being 'Liberal' or 'Lefties' when in fact it should be the right and conservatives who should resent Fox most since Fox regards them as their 'peasant' army and push their buttons on a daily basis. Its THEY who are controlled by Fox and will believe anything it tells them. Just think about those times in Germany and the USSR when children were expected to denouce their parents for their views - it will not be a government that brings that about - it'll be Murdoch.

  • @SquireDonCristobal Fox news is not run by Murdoch, but actually it is Roger Ailes who controls all of the media presented on FOX. If you're unsure who Ailes is, he used to be the man in charge of using the media to propegate support for certain GOP candidates like Reagen and Bush Sr., and a couple others. He's very good at what he does, and he knows what his viewers want to hear, and how to give it to them while keeping them just misinformed enough to gain their allegiance.

  • @IanBillings00 You can follow the media-control scheme through wikipedia, and quickly research who Ailes is, how he got his job, and who his boss is and what Murdoch's views appear to be.

  • @IanBillings00 Yes I can see your case and its very clear that in the US Murdoch has hired probably the most biggoted individual possible to run his Fox News network and yet you still have to look at Murdochs other media outlets and will see clearly who the guiding hand is. It was the same case when he came to Britain and took over the Sun newspaper. With the aid of Thatcher, his first action was to break the unions allowing his 'Ailes' style individuals to be brought in there.

  • The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over - Joseph Goebels

  • Fair and Balanced eh ? Now there's a total contradiction since that in itself is s lie it follows that anything after is a allowed to be a lie. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" - Joseph Goebels

  • I can't watch Fox News without feeling like they're trying to manipulate. That being said, they go beyond manipulation on a regular basis. They mislead with a total lack of respect for responsible journalism. Case after case. MSNBC may be opinionated, but they are at least truthful.

  • Fox news is always crying about CNN's liberal bias. That too is a lie. CNN allows right & left equal time. Fox is unbalanced & biased to the far right. I may as well be getting my news from the 700 Club!

  • Fox News = lies

    Lies and the lying liars that tell them. LOL!!!!!

    I loved that book. 2 thumbs up for Al Franken

  • well ,duh, fox news lies, it probably got a bad reaction from its earlier night showing by either somone that represented their pockets, or from their viewers, so decided to deleate that showing from their viewers mind with the morning show, i note that foxxites rarely remember what fox dosen't wish them to remember...i live with one...

  • FOX news isn't going to do a report against America (ex. on coins "In God We Trust", and etc.) because they are going to say that is TERRORISM. Also not trying to offend anyone.

  • Ja johl mein fueror FOX und a lie said long and loud enough will become true. J. Gobbels

  • Your German is ridiculous. lol.

  • Fox Lies alway misleads its dumb viewers its what they are all about.

  • I don't think they do it solely to mislead viewers. I think a lot of it is actually giving those dumb people what they want. They want to hear this shit. It plays right into their personas.

    They want to hear that Muslims are taking over, they want to hear that christians are being persecuted.... and so on.

  • Yeah, I go to this school. They do this shit all the time.

  • Fox lies all the time. It's their default setting.

  • Ya, I don't understand how they continually get away with this, Must have the best lawyers, lol.

  • @peanutof85 if Fred Phelps and the WBC can get away with it, why not Fox News? Only in America, folks, only in America!

  • No, honey, just the best viewers.

  • @Peanutof85 no , they just have have dumbest viewers

  • @Peanutof85 well... yeah

  • I think the ACLU should file a collective lawsuit against fox news for slander.

  • This commentator is way too kind with Faux News, i find their idea of news "reporting" reprehensible.

  • Just wondering, for those of you that think a school official should allow a prayer, what said person was a Muslim?

  • lol then no

  • would you mind breaking some of this down? "collective knowledge" "Consent decree"? not all of us are Lawyers!

    Good video though...

  • Fox News usual tactic of being dishonest is one thing, but blatantly lying on national television takes it to a whole other level.

  • It's obvious Fox just wants to give Christians a reason to say they have been discriminated against, and being the ones who brought them this information they will further gain their trust.

  • I think that you are all looking at something different than what is actually being said here. Liberalviewer is not necessarily making a comment on the actual court statement (even though he does even have support for that) but is actually talking about how Fox said something that they actually knew was not true. Which in the video has ample support for this claim. I thank Liberalviewer for posting these interesting videos.

  • i love the makers of this video! good job!

    why does fox lie? good question!

    i feel their is enough probably cause of some sort of fox news conspiracy to deliberatly lie that the FBI has grounds for an investigation.

    and, i think the reason will be discovered to be: ratings. just that. rupert doesn't hate obama. who hates not making money. so, rupert hires people who will over sentationalize and misrepresent in the most inflamatory manner possible, just to create hate for ratings

  • Agreed. Fox news = conservative hate porn.

  • Last month, Fox "news" Steve Doocey lied to his dittohead viewers that he's received 5 health care questions to help his viewers shout down people at Town Hall meetings.. Steve Doocey further lied that the emails were from independent grass-roots people. The exact same 5 questions were actually on the Heritage Foundations website, which is not only right-wing, but far from "independent". As with Fox "news" - it's unfair, imbalanced and unashamed.

  • You don't "usually accuse Fox of lying"? Every time they lie that they are "fair and balanced" they are lying. As the psychologist Chris Aable noted years ago: "No person is so infallible that they are perfectly fair and balanced about politics, much less an entire organization." Yet, Fox's daily lie for years had been "Fair and Balanced, Period" - note the audacity of the word "Period" -As if there's no debating it when even Fox owner Murdoch finally conceded he has a "conservative agenda".

  • No, atestring, not "enough said" because the world is more complicated than Fox so-called "news" . It goes without saying that we all have "free speech" and no one said otherwise. Fox is free to lie all day long that the "Iraq War will be a cakewalk" and that they are "fair and balanced" and we're free to call them on their lies, BS and propaganda, which is all this video is doing.

  • There is no law preventing a private citizen from praying where ever and when ever they want. "Congress shall make no law." period.

  • Are you aware that the government is allowed to discipline public employees for engaging in activity that would otherwise be constitutionally protected? Are you aware that violating a federal court order is a crime, regardless of the way in which you violate it?

  • fox lies constantly! people who watch fox believe wrestling is real.

  • Don't listen to any of this, I go attend Pace High and Principal Lay did face charges. But, the teachers do not and never did force Christian beliefs on us and never has. This is Bullshit. If you want to argue over this send me a message. I should know.

  • wow! truth? where are you? hard to tell...unless you are lying and their is ample evidence... i suppose many of the students need tobe intereviewed, and then the truth should come out.

  • Yes, they lied on purpose.

    They hate the ACLU because they hate freedom. They want a church-run state.

    It's as simple as that. They want to legislate Christianity, and the Christians love it. The right-wing eats this stuff up. They know it's lies too, but they don't care. They're drinking the cool aid.

  • Fox has lied all along. Fox lied about our President calling him a communist, a "fried" terrorist and other hateful lies and insinuations. Very irresponsible news! Don't believe anything you hear in FOX!

  • Federal judge, Case Rodgers, ruled that the two did not violate the order. The Liberalviewer is once again wrong and disseminating lies about fox. My god but these liberals are pathetic

  • So.....just to get it straight, Megan Kelly "admitted" it, she didn't "report" it?

    I love what a dope you are, that you keep saying that like she was tortured and finally BROKE and "ADMITTED" it.

  • Three SOURCES...WEB...Personal Inquiry...radio...to reach an intelligent decision on any topic.. I always CHECK my sources...

  • Three sources to verify ANY story...on any station...at least Fox gives both sides...and it is always exciting to see the passion on both sides...That is why they are number 1 and persons in power (for now) FEAR THEM...

  • Please stop that fucking bullshit, every blue moon FIXED new will have a legit person from the left and all they do is shout over them and cut their mics. All the righties that Maddow and Olbermann invite never accept the invitation that's why you don't see them on MSNBC. FAUX News are LIARS and have always been. And calling out their bullshit and lies is NOT "FEARING" them. It's called setting the record straight.

  • I used to work for a person that OWNED a television station and 7 radio...during the late '70's the FCC FORCED HIM to SELL off some of the stations .just saying freedom of speech MUST be preserved .....Thats why THREE sources- radio-tv-web-newspaper-firstha­nd info...IS SO IMPORTANT..with the FCC trying to take MORE CONTROL - even of the WEB - we may end up in a world much like THE MATRIX!

  • NEWS FLASH!! People who listen to FAUX News are already living in the the Matrix bullshit, lies, hate and fear mongering, and they fight off anyone who attempt to unplug their asses.

  • fox news is pathetic...

  • cnn only reports on what they want at least foxx reports on evrything

  • I live right next to Pace, and I remember that. It was so stupid with the aclu coming in there claiming the school was "forcing" religion on the students, just stupid. So you know what the students did, THEY LED THE PRAYERS! Speaking of news bias, LiberalViewer why dont you report all the news bias of msnbc and why no one wants to watch them because of their bias and why fox has been the most popular news channel.

  • Fox News = Intellectual Dishonesty

  • FOX is not NEWS.

    That makes MSNBC the #1 Cable News Channel.

  • Its funny when a serious topic is discussed so calm and measured. i like this guy!

  • Anita Dunn had Fox News pegged right.

    I've seen too many of their mis-leading stories to believe anything they say.

    LiberalViewer has a most pleasant voice!

  • Gee, what do ya expect anyway?! Fox News got consumed by NBC who is owned by General Electric which is a corporate tool of the Illuminati.

  • Well ya I'd say that the Fox & Friends segment featured lies, but the only problem is I doubt this will stir up too much trouble since Fox&Friends is, as far as I can tell, complete bullshit anyway.

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  • quit treating FOX like a news channel, it's just a gigantic soapbox for neoconservatives to share their opinions with other neocons. This is why I hate rhetoric

  • This channel has consistently produced excellent analysis. As a result, and compliments to liberal viewer, I have become a member of the ACLU. Thank you.

  • The 3 stooges on fox and friends have no other place to go... they can't even pull it on a normal shift where people are more awake. They can be as fox'd in the head as they want at 6am

  • Any schools that force religious beliefs upon children is wrong. The fact that Fox, which has repeatedly shown itself as ignorant bigots when talking about the atheist community, don't realize that as Americans we have a constitutional right to not only be religious, but to be protected from religion.

    According to our own laws, it is illegal for the government to support any religion. And yet religious people continue to force religion down all our throats.

    They are a cancer to America.

  • here here you said it man

  • Jonis, your Atheist blasphemies are why there is such a division. You are taught that you're more special than everyone else around you. This is the real problem with our (American) society. We're not special. We're all a part of a whole country. We ALL represent the flag... We're all in this together.

    This whole idea that any one of us is better than another is the reason why people like Fox are able to get away with their nonsense... Truly... Stop and think.

  • Speaking as an atheist, I was not not 'taught' anything. My parents are Christian, (my mother very so). It was something I came into on my own. I don't consider myself better then everyone else. I consider myself better then the person I was several years ago. I'm a big supporter of civil rights, believe in peace over war, and give everyone a fair shake until they, and that person alone, proves other wise....

  • As it pertains to the school, I have nothing against people praying. What people do in their own time is none of my business or anyone else's. If teachers and students want to pray at lunch, that's great. The only part I drawn the line is when they FORCE people to do, wiether they want to or not. And that's for ANY religion or practice, not just Christian. If it's just a couple of people not bothering anyone, then I would be the first to defend them.

  • In this, totally, we agree. Thanks you for a comprehensive response.

    Looking at what I wrote a week ago, my words seem rather harsh, and I do apologize for speaking so generally about a group when it was but one person expressing such intolerance.

    My apologies...

    Nothing follows...we agree. :-)

  • Without anger, there is no passion. But without reason, passion is blind. I wasn't offended. I wanted to point out just that, we're all different. Mearly belonging to same group does not make us all think the same way. We are of two different groups, yet we can agree. That's important. In many ways, you're arguement made sense, and were far more tolerant then most. In my view, you're one of the great kinda Christians, with acutal reason behind your thoughts. I think more need to be that way.

  • Great, now that you see what everyone else in America sees. Do something about it.

    It's not the information that's the problem, it's the penetration. Everyone who has tried to gather the people has been murdered or blasphemed.

    Look at your music, television, movies... When was the last empowering song that you heard on the radio?

    I'm American too. A veteran of this once great country. No one is in the Matrix but you...especially if you think that you're the only one. lol

  • I didn't quite understand your rant (Jonis), but I believe that you were promoting less Government Control??

    If so, then why should the Governing bodies of the school elicit control? Personal Freedom is personal freedom regardless of how the pie is sliced.

    If you're arguing that the government should control, then, well, that's the idea.

    I really shouldn't have responded to this cryptic comment. lol

  • I would almost swear (I don't swear because I heartily believe that it is a "sin") that Jesus (the representation and voice of God in the Bible) remarked that Christians should pray quietly for God's guidance and praise him personally--though not with fear.

    Am I remembering this wrong?

    If I am not, what inconvenience is brought forth by the secular Constitution of the United States? Diah4, if I am correct, you are incorrect on two fronts and almost suspect of the same blasphemies as FOX.

  • You know it's an awesome "news" channel when it's the viewer's job to research and discover for themselves what really happened in the stories reported/discussed, because that "news" channel consistently bungles its facts and horribly misrepresents the relevant contexts (always, of course, in accord with their well know bias). One reasonably wonders if it even counts as a "news" channel at all.

  • People came to this land for many things and yes a lot of people came here to have religious freedom but that's not the only reason why we all should have the same rights I choose to believe that God sent Jesus Christ to this earth to die for my sins other choose not to believe it Equality should be the main factor in this country but there are prejudious people that don't think so and I think that the ACLU are one of them that's my opinion

  • All that is neccessary is to read the writings of our founding fathers to prove to yourselves that they were profoundly christian.

    The seperation of church and state is a fallacy, it was to ensure that the government did not interfere with religion, which is what the seperation of church and state people are doing.

    We are supposed to have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

  • "No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship or ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion." Jerffeson Memorial, washington dc

  • You are very wrong intrepidorator. Read some quotes by Thomas Jefferson. Most were NOT christian they were deists, agnostics and atheists.

    FYI the first commandment and the first ammendment oppose each other.

    The freedom from religion is what I as a former U.S. Marine support. Why can't all of you religous nuts just settle on one flavor of superstition? Why 3,380 different xtian cults to chose from? Maybe you are all full of shit?

  • "ACLU are a bunch of God hating Communist thugs!" Actually Flametopology, it seems that you get or opinion from fox news because the ACLU has defended christian groups on multiple occasions, including radical christian groups that claim, 9/11 and troops dieing in iraq are because its god's revenge on us for letting gays be free. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  • "this is America & it was founded on Christian views & beliefs." nice to see you consider yourself a patriot but yet you know nothing about our country, our founding fathers were Freemasons, it is sacrilegious to be a Freemason and practice Christianity, way to look like an idiot,sweetater47 go back to school.

  • only 9 of the founding fathers that signed the Declaration of Independents were Freemasons that's 16% only 13 signed the Constitution (33%) and only 33 signed the Generals of the Continental Army, under George Washington, document. With in all those numbers do you see 100% of the founding fathers as being Freemasons nope do your research before you criticise someone

  • you're dumb.