Anonymous explanation of scientologys beliefs

[GypsyPianist]

I made up that quote at the start! Have you either been in Canada or England?

[SkepsisDub]

Believing in extra-terrestrials is sooooo crazy, But believing you become a floating ball of invisible energy when you die has to be true theres no way you dont become a ghost that floats up to the magical cloud in the sky where your childhood house pet and grandparents live. All religions are wrong they are only leeches that provoke war and promote seperation, Im starting a new religion its called coexist, who wants to join? If you join in the next ten minutes you get 50 % off!

[RubbaDubbTubb]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Kingdom815]

i mean if you think about it.... I am not surprised in the least that they actually believe this.

Im not sure how many members scientology there are but i know the number pales in comparison to christianity which is just as much bs as scieentology. If scientology was written 2,000 yrs ago by some prophet Hubbard, swapping characters like Xenu and Hubbard with names like god and jesus, you would have a more compelling religion than christianity 2,000 yrs down the road.

[graverobber35]

I can't understand the robot talking

[5dollarnate]

You know....I think I much rather think the dark god Cthulu exists than Lord Xenu or alien souls in our bodies...

[magicalwrath]

Scientology is crazy, and pretty much like a fairy tale

[MrMcConnon]

I have thought about religion for a long time, I was raised catholic and was never convinced that there was a God due to the amount of evil in the world. But I believe that we all have Ki (life energy/ a life force) and when sum1 dies they may choose to exist as energy or try to cling to life. Those that try to cling to life, their ki is filled with hatred and jealousy for those still alive, and that malevolent ki becomes disease and plagues the living. Even that isn't as retarded as Scientology

[1976Skynet]

Fuck Scientology

[MasacruRo]

scientology is fucked up , there's a pic during the video that explains easily what scientology believes ,

[billiey61]

you should of used tom cruise ,or john travolta ..I might have believed you ..lol

[beehiveswarm]

Classic video is classic.

Anon is leaderless, faceless, many and wise. We do not forget.

[robross1992]

Scientology is fucking gay and retarded

[deaddad1000]

terry pratchett should start a cult,his books are better and the hardbacks retain value!love ya anon fight the oppressors!

[Seanlarson2111]

If i could i would help bring down those scientologist retards.I think i'd believe in the hindu gods before i'd even look at scientology.I've even heard rumours that the guy who created the religion denied that any of it was real and that they covered it up saying her was taken over by an evil soul or something.I think tom cruise should realise the mistake he has made and shoot himself in the face.Cults ruin peoples lives.People like him should just do the world a favour and die.Ty for the info.

[Theanons]

:)!

[Earthsweapon]

but our own govt is from the cult tree line and on on and ect read ..more

[DivertedPotential]

ANONYMOUS - Please stop shooting yourselves in the foot - videos with this voice are too annoying to watch.

[Earthsweapon]

maybe not they just dont know where to look there sooo dumb sometimes but then again maybe the need some backing .... LOL LOL chow!

[Rubo41]

hahahaha U mus know every religion is a freaking fake...all lies...invented by We, the humans....the incredible thing is that there is people who believe...

I believe in what I can see...and can me demostrated.

[PrimeEvolutionary]

Is Xenu related to Xena the warrior princess? Xena rocks!!

[dark21blue]

Ohhhhhhh Kay...I think I will stay agnostic.

[JulioNicoletti]

LOL ive never laughed so hard in my life! is this a real religeon? do people acctually believe this bull? I heard that Tom Cruise believes in scientology, but i never realized that it was this funny. XD

Xenu? Why does he have a name with english letters, if hes alien? or is that translated from something else? I dont get it. I'm assuming that '36' is a scientolists lucky number...

Its just a crazy belief for crazy people.

[AnonymousLegions]

yeah its a real "religion". hard to believe huh? although most of all the alien stuff doesnt come in till uve payed so much your either brain washed or u gotta carry on.

[movieman2000]

So convenient that they brainwash so soon after you've given them so much money.

Fucktards Incorporate = $cientologists

[sinnis10]

Scientology is bullshit.I'm christian:)

[Zerloch]

At least your bullshit is free.

[rokDestiny]

lol

You are wrong at the base. Be rational and scientific. Stop believing. Start knowing.

Know this...

Truth is relative. Right or wrong is an illusion of perspective.

"Sun rises in the east?".. go tell that to someone living at the poles.

Theres no good or evil only the unknown. Another illusion of perspective.

Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was right? Go tell that to a japanese.

Human Drama! Grow the fuck up! Its you who make it right or wrong and good or bad.

[AnonymousLegions]

How am i wrong at the base, I have nothing to be rational or scientific about, Because this is What The Core of scientology basically is, and im just explaining it. It is not human drama, and i believe you need to grow up and respect what people do or do not beleive, and people have the right to know what some scientologists are protecting by harming others.

[rokDestiny]

What scientologists are protecting by harming others? You don't respect others basic/natural right of freedom. (you justify harming/killing ?) And want me to respect your believes? "WoW?" Am I susprised? Actually No.

[sanityisfor]

im 16 years old and i can tell scientology is full of shit

[POSTI255]

lol nice

[newphoenix84]

Well that's something new for ya...!

[Arin322]

yeah, support Xenu!! he's after Tom and David!

expect him!! LOL

good job

[gagekko]

I could barely understand the video :P

[AnonymousLegions]

well, incase the voice was incoherent i put the speech in the description for you :)

[gagekko]

Thank you, I did read it as it went along. I agree with what anonymous is doing. I just thought I'd let you know so it could be fixed if you so desire ;-)>

[AnonymousLegions]

ok thank you :)

[Vertigo6911]

we all know that people in that situation sometimes commit suicide, so i think we need to have a plan to recieve and help these people if such a thing occurs.

also its yet another reason to focus on the real issues and try not to ridicule beliefs so much.

[AnonymousLegions]

yes, there really should be a support group for these people, and please understand that this is not a mockery, it is just explaining one of the contrversial and core beliefs of scientology.

[Vertigo6911]

yeah i know, im not commenting on your video.

i just saw this other messege and flt the need to start a convo on it.

im still waiting for the clambake forum to approve my signup.

as for support groups, there is the lisa mcphearson trust.

perhaps anon should set a rule that members are to carry contact info during protest just in case their masks attract future ex-members.

[AnonymousLegions]

yes, that is a good idea, or maybe put support info into leaflets they hand out. Those sorts of ideas are a great thing to put on operation clambake,

[An0nym0usMaN]

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but most Scientologists react to any contradiction to Scientology that you want to harm them. And the conversation is over, for most of them.

What got me out? Is speaking my mind. You can't do that in the Church. Eventually you are a "critic" and declared SP. For those who aren't strong enough to assert themselves, I dont know a solution.

[AnonymousLegions]

yes, that is the sad truth,ithink they react in such a way is because they are taught it. i have heard they are taught "social skills" which are probably that they have been told the truth, so most dont listen to other arguments because they "Know the truth" our right that they act that way, they think someone who doesnt agree is a heretic, almost like your an extremist of sorts. But its not there fault, Its the churchs way of gaining and disaplining its members.

[An0nym0usMaN]

you're exactly right. especially your point is that you are the ignorant one, in their viewpoint. they are the ones freeing themselves from the endless traps of implants and lifetimes and you aren't even aware of it.

but, most scientologists are nice. they won't support "destroying" someine just because they are ignorant. but they will if their entire church is threatened. imo.

[Vertigo6911]

i just saw a video suggesting that the protests is upsetting many members because it is a logical contradiction to hubcap's teachings.

his person suggests that at the next protesters some CS members might take the oppertunity to leave the group.

apparently the existance of anonymous is such a clear violation of the holy law as layed down by hubcap that it is causing the programming to fail on some people.

[AnonymousLegions]

by hub cap im going to assume your on about hubbard. I have seen alot of scientologists who will not listen to claims because they have been taught that there religion is truth and to disregard anything else. if people are against the morals of the church and people in the church listen to them and agree, I think thats great, because it is stopping the Totalitarian culture that exists in many cults today.

[Vertigo6911]

well this comes from a video posted by some1 claiming to be a dissenting member in the CS of clearwater.

in any case it makes alot of sense.

anonymous should not exist according to CS scriptures, and that may well cause some people to slip out of the mind controll.

this organisation is much more fragile then it looks, and the very idea that anonymous is such a big group with people willing to help

may be just enuff to give people to scared to leave the courage to finaly do it.

[AnonymousLegions]

i would hope we give people enough courage to leave, but sometimes they want a sure way out, Scientology hasnt just led to murders but to suicides also.Not being anti religion here but i cant think of a religion which cause people so mush stress they kill themselves.

[Vertigo6911]

well thats the thing.

on the one hand anon is putting pressure on the situation, and that may cause more suicides.

but at the same time anon represents the fact that they are not alone.

and thats what tory keeps talking about: the fear and hopelesness of being or becoming utterly isolated.

i think its this that puts people over the edge, and anon is a big visible contradiction to that.

[An0nym0usMaN]

part of the problem, coming from a personal perspective, in people leaving is they actually believe they need scientology, that it is the "only way out" of this universe. they generally dont like living anymore and scientology supports that they are doomed to be tortured by implanters after they die, will become unconscious as a spirit and be stuck in uncontrolled continuous lives, as they have been. thats why they spend $400k.

[Vertigo6911]

well u have to remember, not every1 has reached OT-3 yet.

im thinking of the people anywhere on the ladder before they break the xenu story to them.

if any of them leave because of this, those will be the first.

[An0nym0usMaN]

I read about OT III in Madman/Messiah while i was on staff. Found it at a library. I didn't leave Scientology until years later.

but, it takes all kinds.

[cowmooWR250F]

We need to focus on their tax exempt status in many countries, including my own.

Making fun of their beliefs does nothing but alienate the public.

If we are to succeed, we must go about this in a proper fashion. Forget *chans, this is alot bigger.

cOwMoO

[AnonymousLegions]

I agree, Please do not misinterperet this video as a mockery, it is a public education video and nothing to poke fun at, I think that people are free to believe what they want without ridicule, but i don not agree with the cults means, attitude and lawlessness.

[SSouYnnonAA]

yes, the facts behind the CO$ are very very far fetched, however thats not what it is about, we can not say what is true or not true. Its about the treatment of the members, not the beliefs themselfs

[AnonymousLegions]

Yes that is exactly what we fight, not the beliefs, for that is free speech, but the appalling treatment of some of its members and the suppression of free speech, and the way it deals with its critics, and i actuall got my facts wrong on this one, its $400,000 approx to become OTIII

[An0nym0usMaN]

I got out after donating only $50,000.

Not a total fail!

(Not OTIII)

[AnonymousLegions]

You used to be in scientology? interesting, did you feel that you were donating? was it pressured or forced? you dont have to tell me but im curious is all :)

[An0nym0usMaN]

I love to tell.

For services, it felt like a charge. When Bart Simpson donates, it is like a donation. I did that $10k. Those donations are all pressured. Churches have these long Sunday night events starting at 7pm and lasting as long as 1am, where a killer Sea Org Member uses Scientology quotes and anti-Psych propaganda to get you to donate to "save the planet." People hate those events, but inside, you feel like it's your duty.

[Vertigo6911]

no not me, there was a person claiming to be a member who posted a video talking about how the clearwater people are upset about this contradiction to their core beliefs.

im a bit sceptic myself, but it makes to much sense to ignore.

i know a little bit about mind controll and what he was saying does line up with what i know.

only thing is its hard to judge to what degree this is an issue.

[Vertigo6911]

im actualy a member of Builders Of The Adytum,

wich provides me with all the mysteries of the universe for a mere $15 a month. :P

[14397542rg435]

scientology sucks - for the lives of its victims let the true nature of the cult be exposed

[AnonymousLegions]

yes, its critics and so called heretics are "fair game" to them. They have hurt to many people. one life "saved" is not justified by many destroyed.

[AnonymousLegions]

yeah well, the fact that they dont tell them the core belief until they donate loads of cash is decieving them = cult

[waffleman911]

Woah wtf, i can see why people think scientologist are crazy, but i guess there so desperate for answers there willing to believe anything

[An0nym0usMaN]

In the basic books and courses at most of the churches protested, the materials are relatively "normal." No aliens, no confidential documents. And it takes 5 years or so normally to complete that level of courses of therapy in SCientology. Plus, if you volunteer, work for them, etc, 99% of them dont get the public services, as they become public servants.

[AnonymousLegions]

i think the main reason for not telling "the space opera" (xeun - type storys) Is because until they can be sure peopl are hooked, they dont want to freak em out or scare them away, by the time they react OT3 they are to scared to contradict, Know the truth or are so into it by then they really believe.

[An0nym0usMaN]

Yeah. imo, its like gradual brainwashing. when you call, they dont answer questions fully. you start with 1 book. 1 course. and you have to learn as you go. and at some point, what generally happens is you "cognite" that "this is it!" like Tom Cruise. and you go for blood. and you trust LRH fully.

[An0nym0usMaN]

You may know, there is a public lecture called Rons Journal 67, or RJ67, where he talks to all scientologists about when he broke through The Wall of Fire, OTIII. He tells you he almost died, and its very dramatic, and he tells you you've been implanted to disbelieve it, and never discover it. And only by carefully following OT III instructions, will you be okay. At that point, Scientologists fully trust him.

[AnonymousLegions]

yes, i have heard of RJ67 and the wall of fire, but never heard the story of the wall of fire, i will go look on wiki now though :)

[An0nym0usMaN]

search rj67 on thepiratebay