love the video! Dem's and, more importantly, Liberal's need to vacate their offices and relinquish all control of all three branches to Conservative Capitalist Republicans.
The welfare system that we have today is being corrupted by lower class blacks and lower class people in general, who have been working the system for generations.
I am black, and live in nice suburban neighborhood. But before I got to this nice house I live in, i was on gov aid. So while I realize that the welfare system has become corrupt, I do not think it should be taken away completely, just reformed. And to the author. You are a person of color. You should support Obama unconditionally.
@ConservatismE Thank you for your video, for thinking for yourself, and for having the balls to say what is obvious to those of us who understand economics, human nature, and the lessons of history.
Wow, did you go to school in America? Its so refreshing to see someone who knows what he's talking about and votes that way. I'm not an American but follow their politics and it is sad to see what it has come to. There is no other explanation other than "Liberalism being a mental disorder". You, my friend, are a breath of fresh air and someone that other young people should look up to(old too). Keep fighting the good fight.
@ConservativeE You got a bright future and being a black conservative in America I know you have to defend and prove your position constantly. That sharpens you and makes you smarter than the liberal who thinks they know what they are talking about and Democrats that are used for their votes every election without really looking into reality.
Can I just add to my previous point, that there are faults with both Liberalism and Conservatism. But what ConservativeE is saying is this video is factually wrong, which is unacceptable if you are talking politics. I am shocked that somebody would blame the economic crisis on liberalism... de regulation of the banks and free market policies from the right wing are soley responsible for this mess, that is no opinion.
@ToaJoe The economic crisis is the fault of left wing policies, that is no lie whatsoever. If you research back to the 1970's and 1980's, you will realize that the government began a system of insurance to the mortgage industry. Meaning through the creation of entities (government entities) like Fannie and Freddie, private mortgage holders were secure to lend to low income, high risk families. After all, the government would buy those mortgages if they turned out bad, why not do it?
@ConservativeE No, this crisis is the fault on the banks, every professional studier of economics would tell you that. And the conservative free market policies towards banks are generally what triggered it. Of course, you can equally blame the liberal governments since the 80's for not regulating the banks more, but overall you cannot foolishly blame the banking crash on Liberal ideology...
@ToaJoe Im sorry but that is simply not true. I don't know what kind of economic mind you have been reading, but anyone that says that the crisis was as limited as that is wrong. Period. It was a complexity of many issues, all which began with government insurance. Regulation, in large, caused this problem. You didn't even go look for information since I replied. Go look up the Community Reinvestment Act. You can download it and read at least the summary. It forces easier lending.
@ConservativeE You could argue that. I don't believe it started with government insurance. Liberal policies play their role, clearly, but I don't think you can directly blame it.
I'm not American, so if you are refering to actions taken by the Democrat party in the 70's and 80's, I am not fully aware of what you're talking about :-/
@ToaJoe It clearly did. If you were a lender of money with profit in mind, and I told you that you could lend to the most risky individuals, and if they default, I would pay the difference, would you not lend more? Would you not have more lenient rules about your money? Would you not take risks you would otherwise not take?
Look, the issue with government is that it attempts to make the world fair by inviting artificial wealth of all kinds. This is not sustainable, and it always fails.
@ConservativeE You have a good argument there, but you can argue it both sides. Liberalism has good and bad economics. You can tax people and use the money to help others, but you must be open to free market policy. Surely though, you are refering to socialism and not liberalism?
@ToaJoe Liberalism (as in Neo-liberalism, not classical liberalism) has very little good economics because it is based on the principles of socialism, or the principles or redistributive wealth. I don't want to tax people to "help" others... taxation should only be used ( again, in economics) to fight externalities. In other words, if people are damaged by something by someone who cannot be charged for it, then that someone should be taxed, thus, the term externalities.
@ConservativeE I thought you were refering to classic Liberalism. You cannot say socialism is terrible for the reasons you pointed out, that is simply your opinion. Capitalism has it's flaws, as does socialism. It depends what you believe in. I think that the rich should be taxed until tears form in their eyes.
@ToaJoe I can say that socialism does not work because it is economically not viable. Can you tell me, ECONOMICALLY, the difference between humans and other animals?
Also, why in the world would you want to tax the creators of wealth so much???? There is absolutely no reason to do that other than your emotional need to rebel against those that are more successful financially.
@ConservativeE No, that's not an economic matter, is it?
Taxing the more wealthy in order to financially support the working class people who they exploit so much is only fair. The problem with capitalism let loose is that the entire country is owned by the giants. An example of a media giant who needs to be regulated severely is Rupert Murdoch.
@ToaJoe Yes, actually it is. See, for animals socialism would be ideal because socialism does not involve the ONE thing that humans and other animals differ on: trading. You don't see a bear telling a dog: "hey, if you grab me a coyote, I will give you a fish." It doesn't work that way because it is not in their nature to trade. However, it is in the nature of humans to trade, thus, socialism is not economically viable... it just would not work.
@ConservativeE And here is the thing about redistribution of wealth that NO conservative will ever understand or accept. Not everyone comes from an equal background. A very large number of people come from disadvantaged backgrounds. Some people have no desire to work- they'd rather just claim benefits (this is not the case in your country, because the USA is incredibly right wing). In the other hand, you have privately educated rich boys who are guaranteed a job, just because of their background
@ToaJoe Ok.... what's wrong with that? Conservatives and Libertarians clearly understand that. That is why we understand that it is far more important to have equality of opportunity than equality of result, which will never occur since we are each individuals. Those that are disadvantaged have to work harder, yes, but they have the same opportunity as others. You think I come from a rich family with inheritance up my rear end? No.
@ConservativeE The entire conservative argument is based on the presumption that everyone has equal oppertunities in life. That is bullshit. It's 18th century mentality. Conservatives tend (I say tend, not all conservatives think like this) to believe that poor people remain poor because they haven't tried hard enough.
Let's think of a scenario here- a child is born from a prostitute mother and will never meet their father. They are born into a poor household and because of their upbrining they
@ConservativeE continued- they will be turned down from the job, because the employers will judge them on their quality of clothing and their CV (which would be terrible). They won't get the job they want, so it all happens again.
Most conservatives are too short sighted to understand that. Equal oppertunity does not exist. When the right wingers start endorsing rehabilitation programs and accepting less privaliged backgrounds, they can bring credible arguments to the table.
@ToaJoe Equal opportunities do exist, sadly the people that ignorantly and arrogantly claim that they do not obviously have not read or understand the Constitution. We are granted the same rights, freedoms and opportunities, we are not granted the same results as others. The Liberals (Democrats) simply need to shut up, and give control to the Republicans so we can do a way better job running this country.
@thehappycamper308 That is why America does not deserve to be a super power, because they are run by idiots who actually think the 'american dream' is real. It simply defies all sociological evidence.
@ToaJoe the problem is right there in what you said. the word "deserve", all these Liberals walk around with this entitlement feeling. using the word deserve in every premise they can find. as with everything in real life, you don't deserve anything, you earn it. The American Dream is very much real, it's not owning a house, retirement or a high-paying job. It's simply life liberty and pursuit of happiness. The Constitution grants that to us, even when we did nothing to deserve it.
@ToaJoe Also, it is not "fair" to tax the rich so much if you are just going to be spreading the wealth around. The wealthy are wealthy because they are productive. If it was up to me, McDonald's would be run my machines, not human workers. Do you see a need for a human being in a McDonald's? I don't. SO be thankful that the welathy are offering so many jobs to the working public. They are not being "exploited" in the negative sense. They provide jobs for people to feed themselves.
@ToaJoe I can't stand anything more than people not understanding the tax system and who really benefits. The income tax system we have now is a redistributive system, one that takes the wealth of the wealthy and gives it to the poor and middle class. The system is already redistributive, but folks like you want more for less. The system is designed to reward laziness in government while the capitalist system rewards innovation. The system WORKS. "Fair" has nothing to do with it.
have no desire to try hard at school. They will fail at school, because their parent lacks the enthusiasm to work. So they claim benefits. Once they fail at school, they will not apply for university. Research has PROVEN that people who don't go to university have lower life expectancy, and will not be able to apply for jobs they want.
What happens if they don't want a job? The same thing happens all over again to their old children. What happens if they WANT a job?
ConservativeE, your political views are incredibly misinformed and naiive. Let's think about this from the basics, for a second. Without liberalism, you as a black person would not have the same rights as a white man in your country today. Conservatism is a moral devolution to animal status, survival of the fittest so to speak. Why you are against the welfare system is a mystery to me. I know America is a right wing country, but even so...
lol! you define conservatism as if it was the synonym of anarchy...
free market?? you want to go back to laissez faire policies?? you want to go back to not having paid vacation time? no pension? no social security? no sick leave? no workers comp? no child labor laws? no safety regulations? no environmental laws? no labor laws whatsoever?? you want to go back to the 1800's?
that's what no gov't intervention gives you, my man.
@elnegrobembon No public social security would be great. It is not economically viable. That is proven over and over again. No opinion. The decision of how the market works is not based on machines, my friend, it is based on people. If the market does like the actions of a certain business, than stop buying from them. You shop at wal mart? You buy Nike shoes? Well guess what.... you are supporting those very things overseas. You know why? Because the people leave it to the government to (cont)
@elnegrobembon to fix those things rather than allow the market (the consumer) to do it. If the latter was the case, then we would have a better, more cost effective system. If the people were not lazy and let the government do the job the consumers are supposed to, the market would function better and faster to social misconstructions. You think laws like minimum wage helps society? Social security? Rent controls? You really think so? I can economically prove that wrong. With just a few numbers
the "market" doesn't give a crap about you. the "market" is not there to serve the community or fix society's ills. corporations' motivation is to make money, not to serve as a charity.
before we had minimum wage, social security, etc. people lived in practically slavery conditions. people worked 14 hours a day to barely survive. that's better than any theoretical evidence you may have.
like i said, if you want a free market, move to somalia. that would be like paradise for you
@elnegrobembon Umm... I don't understand your uneducated argument. What exactly is the market?????? It's you. It's me. It's everyone. The market is not some machine, it is made out of people. Corporations are made out of people. And it should be their motivation to make a profit. If you know anything (read: anything) about economics, you will know that the market (that is, people) will always attempt to operate at maximum efficiency. I don't believe you ignorance about the minimum wage (con't)
the proverbial "market" is nothing more than an idea. it only exists inside people's heads. it doesn't exist in the real world.
either way, like i keep telling you... you want a real case-study of the free market in practice? go to somalia.
you can talk about all the hypothetical advantages of deregulation and true free market capitalism, but as you know it's just hypothetical because it's not practiced in the US.... but it is in somalia. so how do you think it's working out?
corporations are not people. corporations are made up of people. and corporations are not run with the best interest of society in mind. hell, many are not even run with the best interest of the corporation in mind...
the idea that laissez faire economics is miraculously going to cure society of all its ills has been proven wrong *in the real world* time and time again.
you're like a scientist that makes up a crapload of hypotheses about a flat earth ignoring all the real data.
@elnegrobembon Somalia, if you really have studied it, is an economic disaster because infringements occur and market inefficiencies are allowed to roam wild. I never condone a system in which there is no regulation, as it is needed in times of market inefficiencies.
And to be real, I could point out hundreds of examples where policies that YOU support fail. Hundreds.
so you *do* support government intervention in the form of regulation? so you're not a true believer in the free market and laissez-faire policies?
of course not, because you know there has to be rules and regulations in place to protect consumers and workers, whose interests aren't always in line with the corporate interests.. even though there are plenty of theories that say otherwise, reality reflects this fact.
If you know who the "father" of free market economics is (Adam Smith) you will know that not even he believed in 100% free market. When individuals refer to "free market," it means a largely free market. I don't think there is anyone in this planet that believes that there should be no government to push market inefficiencies away. The issue I have with current government is that it believes it actually fixes economic issues, which is not the case.
"market inefficiencies" are not determined the same way by corporations and the rest of society.
for a corporation, it may be more efficient to have a monopoly, to pollute the environment with waste, and to ship their factories to the people that accept slave-like, $2 a day wages.
but that's not necessarily in societies' best interests...
i don't have a problem with capitalism, but it has its flaws if you consider the public. that's the reason there has to be gov't intervention.
@elnegrobembon Sure, there has to be government intervention in order to protect against externalities. But that is the only reason there should be government involvement. If you study basic economics, you will learn that businesses have to attempt to find the social surplus and the profit maximizer. IN order to reach these goals, the society must be taken into account. If businesses reduce the wealth of society, they will in turn reduce their own wealth. It's basic logic.
and you think corporations, in practice, do their business by that logic?
come on.. don't be naive. we just had a major financial meltdown because corporations wanted to make short-term profits without concern for society at large. that's how businesses have always been.
monopolies hurt societies, but that's every company's dream.
you keep trying to theorize why it would be in a company's best interest to work for society, but in reality, they just don't care about you.
@elnegrobembon See you just blindly follow the "rumors" out there instead of searching for the answer yourself. For this reason, I am not going to dwell into the subject until you take 10 minutes of your day and search "Community Reivestment Act" in google and read the Executive Summary. JUST the executive summary will give you every answer you need. ONly Then will you understand why it is that banks made those decisions.
like to believe otherwise, everyone does not have access to these opportunities. If it's wrong to tax middle/upper class people for welfare programs that benefit the poor, how do you justify taxing poor people for military defense and a police force that benefit the rich?
Conservatives believe in individual liberty? LOL. This is why they want to prevent gay couples from having the same legal right to get married as every other couple or women from exercising reproductive autonomy? Liberals do not believe in big government for the sake of big government, they believe in freedom and personal responsibility but in order to live your life the way you want to and to take responsibility for yourself, you must have certain opportunities and no matter how much you'd
Woot speak the truth any thing that robs people of the instinct to take care of themselves has to be evil any tragedy in world history can be traced back to a large evil goverment
Too bad George Bush has wreck conservative idiology, and now we have a social/fascist government that is going to take this country in to revolution. I am a third wave crowd that is pro Ron Paul. Republican, are just like the Democrats: socialism, continuous bailouts, power to the federal reserve system, government control of private institution. Obama is the same as Bush. No difference. Meet the new boss. same as the old boss.
Conservative E: You are a sharp dude, and that was a great video, and I am sorry there are so many ignorant posters that just don't get it. You will go far!
Yes, I am in fact a conservative. If you go by your comic books 'and stuff' then maybe not. But then again, I'm not really too much into cartoons. I get to vote because it's in the Constitution. Simple as that. If you are referring to the civil rights movement, I have the facts in my video "Racial Politics, and some uneducated folks." If you are referring to that, and you truly believe that liberals posted majorities in support of civil rights, then you need to educate yourself. BTWI'm not black
You almost make me frustrated not because you are a liberal, or because you are uneducated; it's because you REFUSE to educate yourself.
Anyone that has anything bad to say about the persona of Rush Limbaugh has simply not taken the time to EDUCATE themselves about him and his views, and moreover, has not listened to his radio talk show. You need to do all of the above. But first, begin by actually attempting to educate yourself.
@ConservativeE I always have to laugh at liberals throwing that in our face. Check your history boy and girl liberals. If it wasn't for us REPUBLICANS slavery just might still be around.
IHS7: You are punk little boy, and it is sad that some stupid adult put that kind of thinking into your little "P" brain! If that is your little wimpy ass in the picture I would guarantee that you don't talk that way in public, unless you like hospitals! Grow Up!
In fact, I speak publicly just like this in many different occasions. sometimes in front of hundreds. Just to educate you about what I do, rather than for you to assume.
We are looking at the end of freedom. Not only in this country, but around the world. The Globalists, the Kings, have come back to claim what they believe is rightfully theirs.
They have scapegoated the patriots (the believers in the constitution; the declaration of independence; the bill of rights). They have used one of their many subsidiaries, the Department of Homeland Security to act with our local law enforcement in a treasonous fashion.
The reason for this financial crisis is that too many rich conservative people not willing to share got too greedy. It had to fall down at some point.
You cannot be further in the drain of illusion than that.
The likes of people like you always seem to tie greed and self-interest on the same page. It is completely absurd to think that because of one wants to make money, that one will make decisions to lose it. Do you see you logic? (or lack thereof)
There are greedy people, most of them liberals, and most of them in Hollywood. Then there are people interested in self-interest. These are business owners, and most of them conservative.
The wealth in this country is not a fixed amount where everyone gets "a piece of the pie." The "pie" is constantly contracting or expanding (mostly expanding). Money and wealth are literally created, not passed around from person to person. No one needs to "share" their money with you or I in order for us to make money. You literally create it.
No offense, but the clear lack of knowledge of fundamental economic principles in this country is absolutely appalling. Once again, no offense.
The problem Libertarians need to be aware of is when the current Conservative party attempts to Hijack what Libertarians are doing. It was the Libertarians that started the Teaparties, but since Libertarians are small in number it was a way for the conservatives to run with it and take a swipe at our seated president.
Plus I completely agree with you about the complete lack of understanding regarding Economics.
If you are debating with me, then you make some good points which I clearly understand. However, it is important to note that although wealth is created out of the black, income is not. Wealth is often confused with income, and income makes wealth be traded. So, although it is created, it is mainly traded and passes around because wealth is usually not destroyed.
I truly hope that last comment was not aimed at me, since it is my course of study. Thanks for the comment.
Welfare dramatically weakens society. It make it harder to earn a living over minimum wage.Conservative has had a bad rep, by people who do not even understand it. ConservativeE you get it. I am glad to see people, who are actually educated in the basic fundamentals of politics. My advice do not listen to movie stars for politic advice,unless they are actually qualified,but most are not. Celebrity presidents, is too far.
Liberal cant stand to see a world that isnt fair, and everyone makes the same money and everyone holding hands and being gay with eachother, la la la la la la
I think you Conservatives have a false sense of how this reality works. Yall think as if all u have to do is work hard and smart that sky is the limit. HA HA, the truth is, it is rare that anybody is a self made wealthy person. Common look at the numbers, only 5% of this country is wealthy. U gonna try to tell me that only 5% of Americans try hard to be wealthy? ha,who are u kidding. This sense that smart & hard work will get u there is garbage. if not, the wealthy would be more than 5%.
The truth is, most wealth is a hand me down. Now im not gonna try to de-motivate any body from doing their best. Capitalism is very dangerous, even if not so extreme. You pay $1000 mortgage a month and only $100 goes to paying on ur house, wut kinda shit is dat? Minimal payment on Credit, only 10% goes to your card, wut kinda shit is dat? cable, cell phone, all the extra fees they dont mention b4 hand, wut kinda shit is that? Capitalism: rich people tryin to put u in debt and keep u in debt.
You got big businesses like Walmart that swallows smaller business. Then Walmart charges a quarter for what cost them a nickel to put of the shelf. Its a doggy-dog world, im not saying Socialism is better cause is bad too. I think we need a good blend of both. Thats what Dems think. But dont be naive to think is a good and honest either.
And if u think its ok for rich to keep working people down in debt, charging high intrest and hidden fees and shit, than u can go to H311!!
The constitution says the right to life,liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. Theres no guarantees. Liberals just want other peoples money without doing anything for themselves. I started this life out in the bottom 5%, I've clawed my way up the ladder. It's all about priorities. A man earns his OWN way, a child has it given to him.
I too began in the bottom 5%. My parents and myself WORKED our way up. Yes, many sacrifices were made and major decisions had to be made, but my family is now a upper middle class family. I am back to the bottom 5%, but only because I'm in college, have to work for minimum wage. I won't be in that bracket for long.
I must remind you that most of today's top 5% are self made, not hand me down. It is rare that people get money handed down to them. It is common to have someone work hard for it. Go to the forbes website, it will let you know exactly how many billionaires and millionaires are self made. You will be surprised.
Look stop being a willful dumbass. Ur not dumb, so dont choose to be. You all know these things but u choose to be ignorant. Martin L. King, one of the most dangerous things in the world is someone that chooses to accept his own ignorance.
Of course it's biased. that's not a problem. I am a conservative, and this video will be about liberal failures. So will my other videos.
But why the question mark after individual liberty?
That is what the conservative platform believes. Unlike the liberal platform, which believes that the government should have more regulation in everything.
A government strong enough to give you anything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
conservatives promote the rule of law, which is passed by congress, which is elected by the people. conservatism has nothing to do with pot use, if enough people cared to legalize it, it wouldn't be illegal.
Ph1005 - that is precisely why I'm a Libertarian personally, and not a "conservative" or "Republican." Individual liberty should apply to social as well as economic dynamics, as long as no one is being denied their right to life, liberty, or property.
Correct. I believe the current Conservative party will never reclaim any of it's former glory as long as it cowtow's to the Religious Right.
The current Conservative mindset is to have less government... except when it crosses their religious beliefs... I mean, don't think about people who don't believe in the same God you believe in (If you believe in one at all).
This current line of Conservative thinking is why they will cling desperately to people such as Sarah Palin.
Well that could be debated. There is a growing percentage of Conservatives that are not religious. (like myself)
The religious right will form its own denomination soon enough, but I believe that the true conservative ideology and republican party still has its roots in limited government, and most importantly, individual responsibility.
Which part? It's pretty clear that Today's conservative is a Christian, or at the very least, religious. Look at all the front runners for the 2012 Presidential election: Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindel, Mitt Romney... I could go on and on...
I'm all for whatever someone wants to follow as a guiding principal in their lives... but when they use that entity as a basis for exclusion and bigotry, that's when I check out.
The part that today's conservatives are christian or religious. Mitt Romney believed in a religion, but he did not fill his governorship with religious points. Just one example. I completely agree that our leaders should never use religion to make policy.
Even though I am not religious, and more of an agnostic, I can recognize one thing: religious persons in this country are the greatest force of good we have.
That is my opinion, and why I don't think religion is "bad."
In an Ideal world, the conservative idea works. But this world is not ideal, they will result to crime and revolt.
Jesus says " it easier for a Camel to fit through an eye of a needle, that a Rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven" can u argue with Jesus????
Just having greed in ur mind says ur not on Gods side. U talk about everybody taking responceability, dont u realise if everyone made all d right steps, most will fail, we all cant be rich.
you're right, we can't all be rich... but we can all be poor...under socialism...look at north korea, look at cuba, former soviet union, north vietnam, etc. etc. etc.
the problem i have is that, nobody gets rich by themselves. Its always sommebody getting rich by having many people that are underpaid working hard to make them rich. Anybody making over $250 thou a years should not worry about paying higher taxes,
Thats just plain greed. If the Government is to protect its citizens from crime and terror, why is it they cant protect us from poverty? Poverty is what sparks most crime.
If someone feels they are underpaid they shoud get another job or start their own business. People who have people woking under them are creating GOODS, SERVICES, & JOBS, and that IS our economy. $250,000 isn't a lot if you are running a business, taxing them higher will only force them to lower wages. THANKS POLITICIANS. congress should give themselves a drastic paycut and cut out the huge useless bureaucracies that keep propping up with the people's funds.
i agree with the last two lines. but ur a fool if u think that making $250 thou a year (not business income, but your personal income) is not enough. It takes about 15 years for the average worker to make that much.
Look stop being a willful dumbass. Ur not dumb, so dont choose to be. You all know these things but u choose to be ignorant. Martin L. King, one of the most dangerous things in the world is someone that chooses to accept his own ignorance.
First of all, you used a lot of words, but didn't say anything at all. Why should I care what you think? Second, I never heard any distinction between personal & business income, only several different numbers depending who the candidate was pandering to at the time. I guess he settled at 250K. Third, whatever the amount, why would you want some bureaucrat telling you how successful you're allowed to be. since when was any government an efficient means of wealth redistribution?
If im making over 250k in my pocket, i know 4 sure, i aint digging ditches. I got my feet propped up, why others are sweating everyday, barley making ends meet, just so my wealthy ass can have that luxury.
Thats life, but if that were me, i would not complain about the government taking its chunk.
Thats just greed, and if u cant see that, you can just go straight to hell. im not cursing u, but if u dont wanna see heaven, just go 2 hell
Nope, I agree with you here, I'm against the bailouts. Their just another form of government interference in the market. if companies fail, they fail. why subsidize a failing business? it's just prolonging the inevitable.
You are soooooo right! Look at all those poor, poor people working for Bill Gates. They make next to nothing. What a shame. In regards to your cammel quote: even if you were the poorest person in the US, you are still richer than 90% of the world. I guess your fate is an eternity in hell, according to Jesus. You don't dissagree with Jesus, do you?
mccain 08, i like this guy, he is very smart, i give him a thumbs up for being a minority and not voting for obama, you are one of the very few intellectual people i can find on youtube.
Well done, You are obviously very intelligent.
MrDemonslayer2012 1 month ago
What the fuck does Tiger Woods know about politics?
mussman717word 2 months ago
love the video! Dem's and, more importantly, Liberal's need to vacate their offices and relinquish all control of all three branches to Conservative Capitalist Republicans.
thehappycamper308 2 months ago
Fuck those liberal anti american communist peice of shit
IfinduIgetu 8 months ago
The welfare system that we have today is being corrupted by lower class blacks and lower class people in general, who have been working the system for generations.
I am black, and live in nice suburban neighborhood. But before I got to this nice house I live in, i was on gov aid. So while I realize that the welfare system has become corrupt, I do not think it should be taken away completely, just reformed. And to the author. You are a person of color. You should support Obama unconditionally.
dancingwithcalvin 1 year ago
@ConservatismE Thank you for your video, for thinking for yourself, and for having the balls to say what is obvious to those of us who understand economics, human nature, and the lessons of history.
You Sir, are a great American!
Linguiphile 1 year ago
Wow, did you go to school in America? Its so refreshing to see someone who knows what he's talking about and votes that way. I'm not an American but follow their politics and it is sad to see what it has come to. There is no other explanation other than "Liberalism being a mental disorder". You, my friend, are a breath of fresh air and someone that other young people should look up to(old too). Keep fighting the good fight.
Vader58 1 year ago 2
@Vader58 Thank you. I am currently going to school here in the US, yes.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE You got a bright future and being a black conservative in America I know you have to defend and prove your position constantly. That sharpens you and makes you smarter than the liberal who thinks they know what they are talking about and Democrats that are used for their votes every election without really looking into reality.
Vader58 1 year ago 2
Can I just add to my previous point, that there are faults with both Liberalism and Conservatism. But what ConservativeE is saying is this video is factually wrong, which is unacceptable if you are talking politics. I am shocked that somebody would blame the economic crisis on liberalism... de regulation of the banks and free market policies from the right wing are soley responsible for this mess, that is no opinion.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe The economic crisis is the fault of left wing policies, that is no lie whatsoever. If you research back to the 1970's and 1980's, you will realize that the government began a system of insurance to the mortgage industry. Meaning through the creation of entities (government entities) like Fannie and Freddie, private mortgage holders were secure to lend to low income, high risk families. After all, the government would buy those mortgages if they turned out bad, why not do it?
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE No, this crisis is the fault on the banks, every professional studier of economics would tell you that. And the conservative free market policies towards banks are generally what triggered it. Of course, you can equally blame the liberal governments since the 80's for not regulating the banks more, but overall you cannot foolishly blame the banking crash on Liberal ideology...
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Im sorry but that is simply not true. I don't know what kind of economic mind you have been reading, but anyone that says that the crisis was as limited as that is wrong. Period. It was a complexity of many issues, all which began with government insurance. Regulation, in large, caused this problem. You didn't even go look for information since I replied. Go look up the Community Reinvestment Act. You can download it and read at least the summary. It forces easier lending.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE You could argue that. I don't believe it started with government insurance. Liberal policies play their role, clearly, but I don't think you can directly blame it.
I'm not American, so if you are refering to actions taken by the Democrat party in the 70's and 80's, I am not fully aware of what you're talking about :-/
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe It clearly did. If you were a lender of money with profit in mind, and I told you that you could lend to the most risky individuals, and if they default, I would pay the difference, would you not lend more? Would you not have more lenient rules about your money? Would you not take risks you would otherwise not take?
Look, the issue with government is that it attempts to make the world fair by inviting artificial wealth of all kinds. This is not sustainable, and it always fails.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE You have a good argument there, but you can argue it both sides. Liberalism has good and bad economics. You can tax people and use the money to help others, but you must be open to free market policy. Surely though, you are refering to socialism and not liberalism?
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Liberalism (as in Neo-liberalism, not classical liberalism) has very little good economics because it is based on the principles of socialism, or the principles or redistributive wealth. I don't want to tax people to "help" others... taxation should only be used ( again, in economics) to fight externalities. In other words, if people are damaged by something by someone who cannot be charged for it, then that someone should be taxed, thus, the term externalities.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE I thought you were refering to classic Liberalism. You cannot say socialism is terrible for the reasons you pointed out, that is simply your opinion. Capitalism has it's flaws, as does socialism. It depends what you believe in. I think that the rich should be taxed until tears form in their eyes.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I can say that socialism does not work because it is economically not viable. Can you tell me, ECONOMICALLY, the difference between humans and other animals?
Also, why in the world would you want to tax the creators of wealth so much???? There is absolutely no reason to do that other than your emotional need to rebel against those that are more successful financially.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE No, that's not an economic matter, is it?
Taxing the more wealthy in order to financially support the working class people who they exploit so much is only fair. The problem with capitalism let loose is that the entire country is owned by the giants. An example of a media giant who needs to be regulated severely is Rupert Murdoch.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Yes, actually it is. See, for animals socialism would be ideal because socialism does not involve the ONE thing that humans and other animals differ on: trading. You don't see a bear telling a dog: "hey, if you grab me a coyote, I will give you a fish." It doesn't work that way because it is not in their nature to trade. However, it is in the nature of humans to trade, thus, socialism is not economically viable... it just would not work.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE And here is the thing about redistribution of wealth that NO conservative will ever understand or accept. Not everyone comes from an equal background. A very large number of people come from disadvantaged backgrounds. Some people have no desire to work- they'd rather just claim benefits (this is not the case in your country, because the USA is incredibly right wing). In the other hand, you have privately educated rich boys who are guaranteed a job, just because of their background
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Ok.... what's wrong with that? Conservatives and Libertarians clearly understand that. That is why we understand that it is far more important to have equality of opportunity than equality of result, which will never occur since we are each individuals. Those that are disadvantaged have to work harder, yes, but they have the same opportunity as others. You think I come from a rich family with inheritance up my rear end? No.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE The entire conservative argument is based on the presumption that everyone has equal oppertunities in life. That is bullshit. It's 18th century mentality. Conservatives tend (I say tend, not all conservatives think like this) to believe that poor people remain poor because they haven't tried hard enough.
Let's think of a scenario here- a child is born from a prostitute mother and will never meet their father. They are born into a poor household and because of their upbrining they
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ConservativeE continued- they will be turned down from the job, because the employers will judge them on their quality of clothing and their CV (which would be terrible). They won't get the job they want, so it all happens again.
Most conservatives are too short sighted to understand that. Equal oppertunity does not exist. When the right wingers start endorsing rehabilitation programs and accepting less privaliged backgrounds, they can bring credible arguments to the table.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Equal opportunities do exist, sadly the people that ignorantly and arrogantly claim that they do not obviously have not read or understand the Constitution. We are granted the same rights, freedoms and opportunities, we are not granted the same results as others. The Liberals (Democrats) simply need to shut up, and give control to the Republicans so we can do a way better job running this country.
thehappycamper308 2 months ago
@thehappycamper308 That is why America does not deserve to be a super power, because they are run by idiots who actually think the 'american dream' is real. It simply defies all sociological evidence.
ToaJoe 2 months ago
@ToaJoe the problem is right there in what you said. the word "deserve", all these Liberals walk around with this entitlement feeling. using the word deserve in every premise they can find. as with everything in real life, you don't deserve anything, you earn it. The American Dream is very much real, it's not owning a house, retirement or a high-paying job. It's simply life liberty and pursuit of happiness. The Constitution grants that to us, even when we did nothing to deserve it.
thehappycamper308 2 months ago
@ToaJoe Also, it is not "fair" to tax the rich so much if you are just going to be spreading the wealth around. The wealthy are wealthy because they are productive. If it was up to me, McDonald's would be run my machines, not human workers. Do you see a need for a human being in a McDonald's? I don't. SO be thankful that the welathy are offering so many jobs to the working public. They are not being "exploited" in the negative sense. They provide jobs for people to feed themselves.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I can't stand anything more than people not understanding the tax system and who really benefits. The income tax system we have now is a redistributive system, one that takes the wealth of the wealthy and gives it to the poor and middle class. The system is already redistributive, but folks like you want more for less. The system is designed to reward laziness in government while the capitalist system rewards innovation. The system WORKS. "Fair" has nothing to do with it.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE continued-
have no desire to try hard at school. They will fail at school, because their parent lacks the enthusiasm to work. So they claim benefits. Once they fail at school, they will not apply for university. Research has PROVEN that people who don't go to university have lower life expectancy, and will not be able to apply for jobs they want.
What happens if they don't want a job? The same thing happens all over again to their old children. What happens if they WANT a job?
ToaJoe 1 year ago
ConservativeE, your political views are incredibly misinformed and naiive. Let's think about this from the basics, for a second. Without liberalism, you as a black person would not have the same rights as a white man in your country today. Conservatism is a moral devolution to animal status, survival of the fittest so to speak. Why you are against the welfare system is a mystery to me. I know America is a right wing country, but even so...
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe "Naiive"? LOL!
MoonMoney1 1 year ago
lol! you define conservatism as if it was the synonym of anarchy...
free market?? you want to go back to laissez faire policies?? you want to go back to not having paid vacation time? no pension? no social security? no sick leave? no workers comp? no child labor laws? no safety regulations? no environmental laws? no labor laws whatsoever?? you want to go back to the 1800's?
that's what no gov't intervention gives you, my man.
free-market capitalism = economic anarchy.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Yes, which is exactly why Anarchy is actually a far right wing ideology.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe
hey... if conservatives want no gov't intervention whatsoever and total individual freedom, that's what you get.
in that case, somalia is the freest country on earth. conservatives should be flocking to somalia in droves....
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon No public social security would be great. It is not economically viable. That is proven over and over again. No opinion. The decision of how the market works is not based on machines, my friend, it is based on people. If the market does like the actions of a certain business, than stop buying from them. You shop at wal mart? You buy Nike shoes? Well guess what.... you are supporting those very things overseas. You know why? Because the people leave it to the government to (cont)
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon to fix those things rather than allow the market (the consumer) to do it. If the latter was the case, then we would have a better, more cost effective system. If the people were not lazy and let the government do the job the consumers are supposed to, the market would function better and faster to social misconstructions. You think laws like minimum wage helps society? Social security? Rent controls? You really think so? I can economically prove that wrong. With just a few numbers
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE
the "market" doesn't give a crap about you. the "market" is not there to serve the community or fix society's ills. corporations' motivation is to make money, not to serve as a charity.
before we had minimum wage, social security, etc. people lived in practically slavery conditions. people worked 14 hours a day to barely survive. that's better than any theoretical evidence you may have.
like i said, if you want a free market, move to somalia. that would be like paradise for you
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Umm... I don't understand your uneducated argument. What exactly is the market?????? It's you. It's me. It's everyone. The market is not some machine, it is made out of people. Corporations are made out of people. And it should be their motivation to make a profit. If you know anything (read: anything) about economics, you will know that the market (that is, people) will always attempt to operate at maximum efficiency. I don't believe you ignorance about the minimum wage (con't)
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE
the proverbial "market" is nothing more than an idea. it only exists inside people's heads. it doesn't exist in the real world.
either way, like i keep telling you... you want a real case-study of the free market in practice? go to somalia.
you can talk about all the hypothetical advantages of deregulation and true free market capitalism, but as you know it's just hypothetical because it's not practiced in the US.... but it is in somalia. so how do you think it's working out?
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon
corporations are not people. corporations are made up of people. and corporations are not run with the best interest of society in mind. hell, many are not even run with the best interest of the corporation in mind...
the idea that laissez faire economics is miraculously going to cure society of all its ills has been proven wrong *in the real world* time and time again.
you're like a scientist that makes up a crapload of hypotheses about a flat earth ignoring all the real data.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Somalia, if you really have studied it, is an economic disaster because infringements occur and market inefficiencies are allowed to roam wild. I never condone a system in which there is no regulation, as it is needed in times of market inefficiencies.
And to be real, I could point out hundreds of examples where policies that YOU support fail. Hundreds.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE
so you *do* support government intervention in the form of regulation? so you're not a true believer in the free market and laissez-faire policies?
of course not, because you know there has to be rules and regulations in place to protect consumers and workers, whose interests aren't always in line with the corporate interests.. even though there are plenty of theories that say otherwise, reality reflects this fact.
btw, you don't even know what policies i support.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Your last point is understood.
If you know who the "father" of free market economics is (Adam Smith) you will know that not even he believed in 100% free market. When individuals refer to "free market," it means a largely free market. I don't think there is anyone in this planet that believes that there should be no government to push market inefficiencies away. The issue I have with current government is that it believes it actually fixes economic issues, which is not the case.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE
"market inefficiencies" are not determined the same way by corporations and the rest of society.
for a corporation, it may be more efficient to have a monopoly, to pollute the environment with waste, and to ship their factories to the people that accept slave-like, $2 a day wages.
but that's not necessarily in societies' best interests...
i don't have a problem with capitalism, but it has its flaws if you consider the public. that's the reason there has to be gov't intervention.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Sure, there has to be government intervention in order to protect against externalities. But that is the only reason there should be government involvement. If you study basic economics, you will learn that businesses have to attempt to find the social surplus and the profit maximizer. IN order to reach these goals, the society must be taken into account. If businesses reduce the wealth of society, they will in turn reduce their own wealth. It's basic logic.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
@ConservativeE
and you think corporations, in practice, do their business by that logic?
come on.. don't be naive. we just had a major financial meltdown because corporations wanted to make short-term profits without concern for society at large. that's how businesses have always been.
monopolies hurt societies, but that's every company's dream.
you keep trying to theorize why it would be in a company's best interest to work for society, but in reality, they just don't care about you.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon See you just blindly follow the "rumors" out there instead of searching for the answer yourself. For this reason, I am not going to dwell into the subject until you take 10 minutes of your day and search "Community Reivestment Act" in google and read the Executive Summary. JUST the executive summary will give you every answer you need. ONly Then will you understand why it is that banks made those decisions.
ConservativeE 1 year ago
like to believe otherwise, everyone does not have access to these opportunities. If it's wrong to tax middle/upper class people for welfare programs that benefit the poor, how do you justify taxing poor people for military defense and a police force that benefit the rich?
AfricanPrince 1 year ago
Conservatives believe in individual liberty? LOL. This is why they want to prevent gay couples from having the same legal right to get married as every other couple or women from exercising reproductive autonomy? Liberals do not believe in big government for the sake of big government, they believe in freedom and personal responsibility but in order to live your life the way you want to and to take responsibility for yourself, you must have certain opportunities and no matter how much you'd
AfricanPrince 1 year ago
i agree with the young man in this video 100 percent , im so encouraged to see a young man who understands whats going on .
saint27573 1 year ago
ConservativeE, bravo to you!! It is nice to see someone young with a good CONSERIVITIVE head on his shoulders.
WinnieYears 1 year ago
Without Conservatives, Liberals would have no one to pay for their government programs.
Without Liberals, Conservatives would all be happy.
TheCandyManCan1 1 year ago 2
@TheCandyManCan1 I love it! I had to laugh, because this comment is so true!!!
WinnieYears 1 year ago
Conservatives today are far more libertarean than before
fleskhjertafan93 1 year ago
Woot speak the truth any thing that robs people of the instinct to take care of themselves has to be evil any tragedy in world history can be traced back to a large evil goverment
fleskhjertafan93 1 year ago
Good Liberals are money spenders that can only ruin the economy
hatheodh 2 years ago
Well done, Kudos!
weneedmccain 2 years ago
Good Job OP, Glad to see smart young faces, keep up good work .
samuils 2 years ago 2
Too bad George Bush has wreck conservative idiology, and now we have a social/fascist government that is going to take this country in to revolution. I am a third wave crowd that is pro Ron Paul. Republican, are just like the Democrats: socialism, continuous bailouts, power to the federal reserve system, government control of private institution. Obama is the same as Bush. No difference. Meet the new boss. same as the old boss.
macdogq 2 years ago
Find an American Republican from outside the US.
EuropeNChance 2 years ago
Conservative E: You are a sharp dude, and that was a great video, and I am sorry there are so many ignorant posters that just don't get it. You will go far!
cowboysfan782008 2 years ago
Thank you, appreciate the compliment. Keep posting!
ConservativeE 2 years ago
Good job, good good. I first i thought you where a liberal ^-^. Haha.
Also I dislike welfare systems to,
LastGouki 2 years ago
Dude.. Your not a Conservative...
Your just a SMART NEGRO who is there just in case WE NEED a SCAPE GOAT.
The reason why your able to VOTE is because of LIBERALS.
IHS7 2 years ago
Yes, I am in fact a conservative. If you go by your comic books 'and stuff' then maybe not. But then again, I'm not really too much into cartoons. I get to vote because it's in the Constitution. Simple as that. If you are referring to the civil rights movement, I have the facts in my video "Racial Politics, and some uneducated folks." If you are referring to that, and you truly believe that liberals posted majorities in support of civil rights, then you need to educate yourself. BTWI'm not black
ConservativeE 2 years ago
Oh.. your not Black.. Dont try to convince me my friend. Convince your Slave Master "Rush"
IHS7 2 years ago
Oh yes slave master. Of course.
You almost make me frustrated not because you are a liberal, or because you are uneducated; it's because you REFUSE to educate yourself.
Anyone that has anything bad to say about the persona of Rush Limbaugh has simply not taken the time to EDUCATE themselves about him and his views, and moreover, has not listened to his radio talk show. You need to do all of the above. But first, begin by actually attempting to educate yourself.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
Your gonna grow up to be a fine Doosh-bag.
IHS7 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up, Because hes actually smart and isnt I complete fucking idiot, like you. Haha, Go, Flame all you want you just lost.
LastGouki 2 years ago
@IHS7 Wow...great comeback!
WinnieYears 1 year ago
@ConservativeE I always have to laugh at liberals throwing that in our face. Check your history boy and girl liberals. If it wasn't for us REPUBLICANS slavery just might still be around.
WinnieYears 1 year ago
IHS7: You are punk little boy, and it is sad that some stupid adult put that kind of thinking into your little "P" brain! If that is your little wimpy ass in the picture I would guarantee that you don't talk that way in public, unless you like hospitals! Grow Up!
cowboysfan782008 2 years ago
In fact, I speak publicly just like this in many different occasions. sometimes in front of hundreds. Just to educate you about what I do, rather than for you to assume.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
We are looking at the end of freedom. Not only in this country, but around the world. The Globalists, the Kings, have come back to claim what they believe is rightfully theirs.
They have scapegoated the patriots (the believers in the constitution; the declaration of independence; the bill of rights). They have used one of their many subsidiaries, the Department of Homeland Security to act with our local law enforcement in a treasonous fashion.
Question: What is money?
ThinkFreeBeFree 2 years ago
The reason for this financial crisis is that too many rich conservative people not willing to share got too greedy. It had to fall down at some point.
ryudo113 2 years ago
You cannot be further in the drain of illusion than that.
The likes of people like you always seem to tie greed and self-interest on the same page. It is completely absurd to think that because of one wants to make money, that one will make decisions to lose it. Do you see you logic? (or lack thereof)
There are greedy people, most of them liberals, and most of them in Hollywood. Then there are people interested in self-interest. These are business owners, and most of them conservative.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
The wealth in this country is not a fixed amount where everyone gets "a piece of the pie." The "pie" is constantly contracting or expanding (mostly expanding). Money and wealth are literally created, not passed around from person to person. No one needs to "share" their money with you or I in order for us to make money. You literally create it.
No offense, but the clear lack of knowledge of fundamental economic principles in this country is absolutely appalling. Once again, no offense.
nsu1997 2 years ago
The problem Libertarians need to be aware of is when the current Conservative party attempts to Hijack what Libertarians are doing. It was the Libertarians that started the Teaparties, but since Libertarians are small in number it was a way for the conservatives to run with it and take a swipe at our seated president.
Plus I completely agree with you about the complete lack of understanding regarding Economics.
Zuul030 2 years ago
If you are debating with me, then you make some good points which I clearly understand. However, it is important to note that although wealth is created out of the black, income is not. Wealth is often confused with income, and income makes wealth be traded. So, although it is created, it is mainly traded and passes around because wealth is usually not destroyed.
I truly hope that last comment was not aimed at me, since it is my course of study. Thanks for the comment.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
ConservativeE,
Sorry I didn't make it clear, I was replying to
ryudo113. I agree with your points 100%!
nsu1997 2 years ago
Welfare dramatically weakens society. It make it harder to earn a living over minimum wage.Conservative has had a bad rep, by people who do not even understand it. ConservativeE you get it. I am glad to see people, who are actually educated in the basic fundamentals of politics. My advice do not listen to movie stars for politic advice,unless they are actually qualified,but most are not. Celebrity presidents, is too far.
KevZen2000 2 years ago
Well spoken sir. Well spoken.
PrincessLueMo 2 years ago
Liberal cant stand to see a world that isnt fair, and everyone makes the same money and everyone holding hands and being gay with eachother, la la la la la la
end of story
MTread545 2 years ago
I think you Conservatives have a false sense of how this reality works. Yall think as if all u have to do is work hard and smart that sky is the limit. HA HA, the truth is, it is rare that anybody is a self made wealthy person. Common look at the numbers, only 5% of this country is wealthy. U gonna try to tell me that only 5% of Americans try hard to be wealthy? ha,who are u kidding. This sense that smart & hard work will get u there is garbage. if not, the wealthy would be more than 5%.
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
The truth is, most wealth is a hand me down. Now im not gonna try to de-motivate any body from doing their best. Capitalism is very dangerous, even if not so extreme. You pay $1000 mortgage a month and only $100 goes to paying on ur house, wut kinda shit is dat? Minimal payment on Credit, only 10% goes to your card, wut kinda shit is dat? cable, cell phone, all the extra fees they dont mention b4 hand, wut kinda shit is that? Capitalism: rich people tryin to put u in debt and keep u in debt.
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
You got big businesses like Walmart that swallows smaller business. Then Walmart charges a quarter for what cost them a nickel to put of the shelf. Its a doggy-dog world, im not saying Socialism is better cause is bad too. I think we need a good blend of both. Thats what Dems think. But dont be naive to think is a good and honest either.
And if u think its ok for rich to keep working people down in debt, charging high intrest and hidden fees and shit, than u can go to H311!!
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
The constitution says the right to life,liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. Theres no guarantees. Liberals just want other peoples money without doing anything for themselves. I started this life out in the bottom 5%, I've clawed my way up the ladder. It's all about priorities. A man earns his OWN way, a child has it given to him.
slg1373 2 years ago
Perfectly said.
I too began in the bottom 5%. My parents and myself WORKED our way up. Yes, many sacrifices were made and major decisions had to be made, but my family is now a upper middle class family. I am back to the bottom 5%, but only because I'm in college, have to work for minimum wage. I won't be in that bracket for long.
Thanks for your input.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
The constitution says the right to life,liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness.
ur right, that also includes the right to step on toes, over charge, and keep people in debt.
XrisSmiles 2 years ago
No one forces you to take loans for things you can't afford. Debt is a personal issue.
The market controls price, if it's to high don't buy it.
slg1373 2 years ago 2
I must remind you that most of today's top 5% are self made, not hand me down. It is rare that people get money handed down to them. It is common to have someone work hard for it. Go to the forbes website, it will let you know exactly how many billionaires and millionaires are self made. You will be surprised.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
Look stop being a willful dumbass. Ur not dumb, so dont choose to be. You all know these things but u choose to be ignorant. Martin L. King, one of the most dangerous things in the world is someone that chooses to accept his own ignorance.
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
Great explanation. You're right on.
Fabricatorsagittarum 3 years ago
individual liberty? hahaha i never saw a more biased video
Ph1005 3 years ago
Of course it's biased. that's not a problem. I am a conservative, and this video will be about liberal failures. So will my other videos.
But why the question mark after individual liberty?
That is what the conservative platform believes. Unlike the liberal platform, which believes that the government should have more regulation in everything.
A government strong enough to give you anything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
ConservativeE 3 years ago
technically, you're right.
conservatives tend to favor individual liberty, but they also repress that liberty to respect traditional values.
proof? if they would really promote individual liberties, wouldnt they permit pot use?
Ph1005 3 years ago
conservatives promote the rule of law, which is passed by congress, which is elected by the people. conservatism has nothing to do with pot use, if enough people cared to legalize it, it wouldn't be illegal.
Fabricatorsagittarum 3 years ago
Ph1005 - that is precisely why I'm a Libertarian personally, and not a "conservative" or "Republican." Individual liberty should apply to social as well as economic dynamics, as long as no one is being denied their right to life, liberty, or property.
nsu1997 2 years ago
Correct. I believe the current Conservative party will never reclaim any of it's former glory as long as it cowtow's to the Religious Right.
The current Conservative mindset is to have less government... except when it crosses their religious beliefs... I mean, don't think about people who don't believe in the same God you believe in (If you believe in one at all).
This current line of Conservative thinking is why they will cling desperately to people such as Sarah Palin.
Zuul030 2 years ago
Well that could be debated. There is a growing percentage of Conservatives that are not religious. (like myself)
The religious right will form its own denomination soon enough, but I believe that the true conservative ideology and republican party still has its roots in limited government, and most importantly, individual responsibility.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
"Well that could be debated."
Which part? It's pretty clear that Today's conservative is a Christian, or at the very least, religious. Look at all the front runners for the 2012 Presidential election: Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindel, Mitt Romney... I could go on and on...
I'm all for whatever someone wants to follow as a guiding principal in their lives... but when they use that entity as a basis for exclusion and bigotry, that's when I check out.
You make some good points though.
Zuul030 2 years ago
The part that today's conservatives are christian or religious. Mitt Romney believed in a religion, but he did not fill his governorship with religious points. Just one example. I completely agree that our leaders should never use religion to make policy.
Even though I am not religious, and more of an agnostic, I can recognize one thing: religious persons in this country are the greatest force of good we have.
That is my opinion, and why I don't think religion is "bad."
ConservativeE 2 years ago
You just changed my mind about a very important issue my friend. Thank you. You will notice one less video in my archives.
Always my rule: you beat me, I delete the video.
ConservativeE 2 years ago
In an Ideal world, the conservative idea works. But this world is not ideal, they will result to crime and revolt.
Jesus says " it easier for a Camel to fit through an eye of a needle, that a Rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven" can u argue with Jesus????
Just having greed in ur mind says ur not on Gods side. U talk about everybody taking responceability, dont u realise if everyone made all d right steps, most will fail, we all cant be rich.
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
you're right, we can't all be rich... but we can all be poor...under socialism...look at north korea, look at cuba, former soviet union, north vietnam, etc. etc. etc.
Fabricatorsagittarum 3 years ago
the problem i have is that, nobody gets rich by themselves. Its always sommebody getting rich by having many people that are underpaid working hard to make them rich. Anybody making over $250 thou a years should not worry about paying higher taxes,
Thats just plain greed. If the Government is to protect its citizens from crime and terror, why is it they cant protect us from poverty? Poverty is what sparks most crime.
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
If someone feels they are underpaid they shoud get another job or start their own business. People who have people woking under them are creating GOODS, SERVICES, & JOBS, and that IS our economy. $250,000 isn't a lot if you are running a business, taxing them higher will only force them to lower wages. THANKS POLITICIANS. congress should give themselves a drastic paycut and cut out the huge useless bureaucracies that keep propping up with the people's funds.
Fabricatorsagittarum 3 years ago
i agree with the last two lines. but ur a fool if u think that making $250 thou a year (not business income, but your personal income) is not enough. It takes about 15 years for the average worker to make that much.
Look stop being a willful dumbass. Ur not dumb, so dont choose to be. You all know these things but u choose to be ignorant. Martin L. King, one of the most dangerous things in the world is someone that chooses to accept his own ignorance.
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
First of all, you used a lot of words, but didn't say anything at all. Why should I care what you think? Second, I never heard any distinction between personal & business income, only several different numbers depending who the candidate was pandering to at the time. I guess he settled at 250K. Third, whatever the amount, why would you want some bureaucrat telling you how successful you're allowed to be. since when was any government an efficient means of wealth redistribution?
Fabricatorsagittarum 3 years ago
What about all these bailouts?????
If im making over 250k in my pocket, i know 4 sure, i aint digging ditches. I got my feet propped up, why others are sweating everyday, barley making ends meet, just so my wealthy ass can have that luxury.
Thats life, but if that were me, i would not complain about the government taking its chunk.
Thats just greed, and if u cant see that, you can just go straight to hell. im not cursing u, but if u dont wanna see heaven, just go 2 hell
XrisSmiles 3 years ago
Nope, I agree with you here, I'm against the bailouts. Their just another form of government interference in the market. if companies fail, they fail. why subsidize a failing business? it's just prolonging the inevitable.
Fabricatorsagittarum 3 years ago
You are soooooo right! Look at all those poor, poor people working for Bill Gates. They make next to nothing. What a shame. In regards to your cammel quote: even if you were the poorest person in the US, you are still richer than 90% of the world. I guess your fate is an eternity in hell, according to Jesus. You don't dissagree with Jesus, do you?
nareitz 3 years ago
mccain 08, i like this guy, he is very smart, i give him a thumbs up for being a minority and not voting for obama, you are one of the very few intellectual people i can find on youtube.
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ConservativeE 3 years ago
Obama 08!
jmdr630 3 years ago
Respectfully,
Give me three GOOD reasons why, and I will vote for him.
ConservativeE 3 years ago