@cbiltcliffe It is just not rogue!Nortel is the rogue!If you think it is false positives, then dont remove the problems.All softwares like Norton tuneup,AVG tuneup and more do false postives and DO NOT tell you to must purchase a software.This video is wrong.If you say it is rogue, you should say "Nortel rogue......."....
@thepredatorwinner A false positive is when a harmless file is detected as infected. That is marginally excusable, and all antivirus has this problem to some extent.
This Norton product claimed that files that DID NOT EVEN EXIST ON THE MACHINE were infected. That's not a false positive. That's scareware, which is rogue.
Just because it's got a big name on it, doesn't mean it's legit. Nortel is fake Norton. This is different. This is Norton being scummy.
@cbiltcliffe i think you are fan of some other antivirus who hate Norton...Norton never does that...I know it from 2years and testing that Av and other AVS from 5 years and now...This is not exactly rogue!It is false positives
@thepredatorwinner What do you mean "Norton never does that"? You just watched video proof that they have, in fact, done that.
And as for me being a fan of some other antivirus? No. All antivirus sucks, for one reason or another.
You've still got a weird definition of a false positive. In order for it to qualify as a false positive, the file that it's saying is infected has to ACTUALLY EXIST. This was generating its own non-existent files, that it said were infected.
@cbiltcliffe oh there is no time to get mad right?If it is rogue=it would infect your pc and never let you go internet explorer,crash windows and give you virus alert!.It is just false positives for me.
@thepredatorwinner A rogue has nothing to do with crashing Windows. Practically no malware intentionally crashes Windows, because then it gets removed. Sometimes they stop you from visiting sites in IE, but not always.
Simple definition: A rogue is something that intentionally gives false infection information in order to prompt you to buy or upgrade, and give the scammers money.
@thepredatorwinner Chewbacca much? Or was that just plain old backpedalling?
What the hell has new or old got to do with it? A rogue is a rogue, regardless of what year it came out. Sure, capabilities change with time, but the publisher's end desire is to part you from your money, one way or another.
Whatever you're calling it, Symantec still engaged in what looks like nothing more than fraud, in an attempt to sell you their software.
@thepredatorwinner I didn't. It was on a machine that came in to be fixed. The binaries were digitally signed by Symantec, so it was definitely from them, rather than somebody using their logo.
Now you answer my question. How do you define a rogue?
@cbiltcliffe so now I understand why you call it rogue but you truth.If you downloaded some other unknown files or what, restarted pc and then popped you that rogue.But I dont think it is ROGUE from SYMANTEC but it is ROGUE from someone...Thats all I know and what you mean how you define a rogue?Give more details about your question
@thepredatorwinner Do you know what a digital signature is? It guarantees that the program was from Symantec. It is a rogue from Symantec. Look at part two of this video for proof of the signature.
How do you define a rogue? How the hell can I give you more details on my question? It's a simple question. I don't see how I can be much more clear, but I'll try: What does a program have to do, minimum, for you to call it a rogue?
@cbiltcliffe well now I understand your question(Sorry bro but im learning english because I dont from USA)A rogue have to do:Infect your pc,pop up for viruses warnings,buy page,warns you to scan and needs activation code...and some more....Visit my channel and go rogues antiviruses...I think you will find there.But I dont think if this is from Symantec.Anyway if I found out that is from rogue(For example I download Norton PC Checkup like your video)Because all rogues can give
@cbiltcliffe antivirus name like Kaspersky,Symantec,AVG but Symantec never gives rogues and will never.We only care about antivirus/internet security and that your rogue found is PC Tuneup and not some antivirus rogues.SO no danger can be happen.
Yer, False advertising or something like that, no reason to do it unless your desperate.
My dad installed AVG once, because hes stupid, and we didnt need anti-virus because i monitor our family PC, it is always clean, and he installed it and it picked up my game .exe's as viruses, and deleted them, i was pissed.
lol SOME, but these are premium games, like Quake 4 and GTA4, mainly GTA4 i was pissed with because i had to get another exe for it, the ones im using arnt viruses because they work fine and i get no after effects like missing files etc.
norton ****ing sucks... on the first computer I had, it had standard norton security for 1 year... then it expired, we tried to get another year, and it screws up and doesnt let us... ****. So then I used free antiviruses for 3 yrs (that + PC tools firewall plus). AVG, and spybot search and destroy. Worked like a charm :)
Everything I want to say is already in a video I made, so you should probably check it out: /watch?v=ZhfP0htGwiI
Starwarsgalaxy1 7 months ago
I had Norton360 all along.
TwilightWolflink1 1 year ago
lol how come you have electrical tape on your screen?
user12119 2 years ago
@user12119 I was trying to delete something, but it didn't work. :-/
If you'd watched the whole video, including part two, you'd know that it's so the name of the product is covered up until I wanted to reveal it.
cbiltcliffe 1 year ago
@cbiltcliffe It is just not rogue!Nortel is the rogue!If you think it is false positives, then dont remove the problems.All softwares like Norton tuneup,AVG tuneup and more do false postives and DO NOT tell you to must purchase a software.This video is wrong.If you say it is rogue, you should say "Nortel rogue......."....
thepredatorwinner 1 month ago
@thepredatorwinner A false positive is when a harmless file is detected as infected. That is marginally excusable, and all antivirus has this problem to some extent.
This Norton product claimed that files that DID NOT EVEN EXIST ON THE MACHINE were infected. That's not a false positive. That's scareware, which is rogue.
Just because it's got a big name on it, doesn't mean it's legit. Nortel is fake Norton. This is different. This is Norton being scummy.
cbiltcliffe 1 month ago
@cbiltcliffe i think you are fan of some other antivirus who hate Norton...Norton never does that...I know it from 2years and testing that Av and other AVS from 5 years and now...This is not exactly rogue!It is false positives
thepredatorwinner 1 month ago
@thepredatorwinner What do you mean "Norton never does that"? You just watched video proof that they have, in fact, done that.
And as for me being a fan of some other antivirus? No. All antivirus sucks, for one reason or another.
You've still got a weird definition of a false positive. In order for it to qualify as a false positive, the file that it's saying is infected has to ACTUALLY EXIST. This was generating its own non-existent files, that it said were infected.
cbiltcliffe 1 month ago
@cbiltcliffe oh there is no time to get mad right?If it is rogue=it would infect your pc and never let you go internet explorer,crash windows and give you virus alert!.It is just false positives for me.
thepredatorwinner 1 month ago
@thepredatorwinner A rogue has nothing to do with crashing Windows. Practically no malware intentionally crashes Windows, because then it gets removed. Sometimes they stop you from visiting sites in IE, but not always.
Simple definition: A rogue is something that intentionally gives false infection information in order to prompt you to buy or upgrade, and give the scammers money.
That's EXACTLY what this was.
cbiltcliffe 1 month ago
@cbiltcliffe oh you dont know enought about this ^^...I meant the new rogues 2011-2012 and not the old which that cant do anything
thepredatorwinner 1 month ago
@thepredatorwinner Chewbacca much? Or was that just plain old backpedalling?
What the hell has new or old got to do with it? A rogue is a rogue, regardless of what year it came out. Sure, capabilities change with time, but the publisher's end desire is to part you from your money, one way or another.
Whatever you're calling it, Symantec still engaged in what looks like nothing more than fraud, in an attempt to sell you their software.
cbiltcliffe 1 month ago
@cbiltcliffe nvm....Talking to someone guy who dont know about rogues...Lets end the talking about that...
thepredatorwinner 1 month ago
@thepredatorwinner Ok, you've put pretty much squat into this conversation.
So what's your definition of a rogue? It's obviously different than most of the industry. Enlighten us, oh wise one.
cbiltcliffe 4 weeks ago
@cbiltcliffe forget everything we talked about it!Just tell me.Where did you downloaded this "rogue"?
thepredatorwinner 4 weeks ago
@thepredatorwinner I didn't. It was on a machine that came in to be fixed. The binaries were digitally signed by Symantec, so it was definitely from them, rather than somebody using their logo.
Now you answer my question. How do you define a rogue?
cbiltcliffe 3 weeks ago
@cbiltcliffe so now I understand why you call it rogue but you truth.If you downloaded some other unknown files or what, restarted pc and then popped you that rogue.But I dont think it is ROGUE from SYMANTEC but it is ROGUE from someone...Thats all I know and what you mean how you define a rogue?Give more details about your question
thepredatorwinner 3 weeks ago
@thepredatorwinner Do you know what a digital signature is? It guarantees that the program was from Symantec. It is a rogue from Symantec. Look at part two of this video for proof of the signature.
How do you define a rogue? How the hell can I give you more details on my question? It's a simple question. I don't see how I can be much more clear, but I'll try: What does a program have to do, minimum, for you to call it a rogue?
cbiltcliffe 3 weeks ago
@cbiltcliffe well now I understand your question(Sorry bro but im learning english because I dont from USA)A rogue have to do:Infect your pc,pop up for viruses warnings,buy page,warns you to scan and needs activation code...and some more....Visit my channel and go rogues antiviruses...I think you will find there.But I dont think if this is from Symantec.Anyway if I found out that is from rogue(For example I download Norton PC Checkup like your video)Because all rogues can give
thepredatorwinner 3 weeks ago
@cbiltcliffe antivirus name like Kaspersky,Symantec,AVG but Symantec never gives rogues and will never.We only care about antivirus/internet security and that your rogue found is PC Tuneup and not some antivirus rogues.SO no danger can be happen.
thepredatorwinner 3 weeks ago
I dont use Anti-virus, i never get viruses because im not so "stupid" to get viruses, and i havent ever got any viruses since i can remember
sgtheadhole 2 years ago
No...I haven't run antivirus since around 2002, when I came to the realization that it wasn't doing me a bit of good.
I've never had a virus, either. I mean..._never_.
Been running computers since around 1981, and never had a warning from antivirus software when I ran it, and never had a problem since, either....
cbiltcliffe 2 years ago
But of course, none of this excuses these marketing tactics by Symantec.
cbiltcliffe 2 years ago
Yer, False advertising or something like that, no reason to do it unless your desperate.
My dad installed AVG once, because hes stupid, and we didnt need anti-virus because i monitor our family PC, it is always clean, and he installed it and it picked up my game .exe's as viruses, and deleted them, i was pissed.
sgtheadhole 2 years ago
What game .exe's are you talking about?
Some games ARE viruses.....
cbiltcliffe 2 years ago
lol SOME, but these are premium games, like Quake 4 and GTA4, mainly GTA4 i was pissed with because i had to get another exe for it, the ones im using arnt viruses because they work fine and i get no after effects like missing files etc.
sgtheadhole 2 years ago
Yeah...that does sound unlikely. Although possible.
Could be that you've got a file infector virus that nobody knows how to remove, so it just deleted the exe. Seen that before....
Or it could be the false positive problem that AVG has had rearing it's ugly head. Although usually false positives nail system files, not games.....
I'd try uploading gta4.exe to virustotal, and see if anything else detects it...
cbiltcliffe 2 years ago
same but id rather be safe then sorry ya kno
xSTREETMANx 2 years ago
Which ever suits you
sgtheadhole 2 years ago
lol i mean u r right anti virus's take up quite alot of ram and CPU usage
xSTREETMANx 2 years ago
norton ****ing sucks... on the first computer I had, it had standard norton security for 1 year... then it expired, we tried to get another year, and it screws up and doesnt let us... ****. So then I used free antiviruses for 3 yrs (that + PC tools firewall plus). AVG, and spybot search and destroy. Worked like a charm :)
marauder2142 2 years ago
I didnt tought this about symantec :S
hunhistory 2 years ago
Neither did I, until I saw this happen.
I haven't liked their antivirus for years, as it's been bloated and had second-rate detection.
But I didn't think they'd stoop this low.
cbiltcliffe 2 years ago
Yeah, these idiots would give everything for money...
hunhistory 2 years ago