jason is soo hot! i like how he chooses to be single.. hes obviously happy that way otherwise he wouldnt be single would he really? cos hed at least try and find someone, but hes happy and thats what makes us happy! some people like their life like that and we support him all the way! :)
im not a Mark Owen fan but he is seriously under-rated. he has alot of talent as a singer-song writer, clementine, 4 minutes, the boodie, etc are all great songs
after seeing this again, it's hard to watch the rest of it knowing that half of the band are currently in the middle of scandals this year. words can't express how i feel towards what's been going on with them lately.
but on the other hand, this clip of Howard with Grace is pretty rad : 4:37 - Grace is like, "Dad! Cut it out! You're embarrassing me!".
after seeing this again, it's hard to watch the rest of it knowing that half of the band are currently in the middle of scandals this year. words can't express how i feel towards what's been going on with them lately.
but on the other hand, this clip of Howard with Grace is pretty rad : 4:38 - Grace is like, "Dad! Cut it out! You're embarrassing me!".
I do not know why everybody condemns Robbie. They kick him and one year after they split. Why to put the fault on him?. Robbie make this documentary and his celebrity played in favour of the band. A lot of persons like me (witch aren't English) know Take That for Robbie.
They did not kick Rob out they simply told him to straighten himself out as he was affecting the rest of them. As for dedicating No Regrets to TT was below the belt. I'm sure he's regretting it now. Btw Rob never cracked the US.
As I understood, Robbie said he'd swap everything he's achieved so far as a global superstar, including 14 Brits, with the sort of domestic life Gary Barlow has - a happy married life with kids.
In his web site, he said that he always want to be part of a band. He miss their friendship, he also know that he have make a lot of mistakes but he said he was so depressed and they don't help him.
But it's not possible for somebody like Robbie to be a part of a band like Take That. I say this because he wants to lead, wheather it's in the studio or in a concert or on tour!!! And Take That are a band who've got the godly Gary Barlow who's got better voice than anyone in the world who attempts to sing. And on writing, Gary and Robbie have got different themes to choose. Gary writes songs that are nice for a good pop song, whereas Robbie is more into nostalgic ideas - something like poetry.
that's part of the problem. he has been quoted as saying he "wouldn't mind" playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle. meaning he still sees it as a hierarchy, and even though he's spent 10 solid years slagging them all off, and is no longer a part of the band anymore, he still sees himself of higher status in the 5 piece than, say, howard and jason, and probably mark. the 4 piece of today is balanced - everyone contributes, and everyone is equal. robbie still just can't see that.
is that any kind of excuse for for the hateful, bitchy and bitter remarks he has consistantly made about them. even as recently as the very year this was filmed (2005) at the brit awards he still just couldn't leave it alone and accept his award in a dignified manner. he's childish and immature and i'm sorry (i know i'll get about a million minuses for this, even though it's just my honest opinion) but i could never respect a man like that.
yeah, it's hard to feel sorry for ROb because he was sooo malicious. I mean Rudebox, and really this last album are a waste of space. And SUDDENLY he records with TT again in the studio. like u say, hard to respect him. Gary has done well not to hire a hitman after he tried to make him look like a c**t; never mind being friends. Robbie, why dont YOU fuck off!
@hyllaf Hey, they all made mistakes, there's no point in blaming Rob alone. Even the other guys already said they didn't take Rob seriously and that they were mean to him sometimes... and the fans shouldn't be thinking of that. They managed to forgive themselves, and that's the most important thing! We all should enjoy the miracle it is that the five of them got together!! It's a miracle made out of love! A beautiful ending to a beautiful story!
btw they ddn't kick him out he left. yes he was depressed but he never showed up for any rehearsals or anything anymore. instead he chose to go to glastonbury with oasis (because that turned out to be such a blossoming friendship) because, in his own words, that was the kind of "cool" he wanted to be in. he thought himself better at this point and left them high and dry.
People can be happy singles all their live!! Not everybody needs to have a family and kids. That doesn;t make everybody happy! If he is happy with the way he is living his life than just leave him alone. Let him play the field and it's a stupid comment saying that he is too old for that. That's just STUPID!!!
rob is an excellent singer and song writer but he still have that grudge in him towards what happened in the past... he needs to really let go. it seems like he is but he is not, he looks much older than he rest of the member coz of the drugs and alcohol and he is not happy.
I hate the way people subtley make Jason out to be a wierdo or gay because he's not married with kids. Some people choose not to lead a traditional life and that's way more respectable then doing what everyone expects or says you should do.
I like your comment. I'm 26, all my friends getting married, but I dont want to yet...'cause i know i'm not ready...just not everybody's timing is the same. If he has not found the right person yet...then he better b alone & enjoy life...Life is more than having a family. I would love tohave a family in the future...but some of us r just not ready yet!
didn't you know that Jakarta was the last city of Nobody Else's tour probably 13 years ago and i was there?!!~~~ I was about 14 years old that time and couple weeks later they had announced that they split up.. :(
but so glad they came back~ i bought the magnificent Beautiful World album, and of course, beautiful world &ultimate tour DVD.
I really really really wanna see them live here again, in Jakarta..
Thank you for upload this video. Really love Take That.
@Caoiluvsmarkowen He does still have a home near to Kirkby Lonsdale - I had heard when he had this affair he took her there, but who knows if that is true?
I agree with u... Mark's solo albums are great! I have all of them... The problem was that many of the younger fans didn't accept the different music style and Mark's different look...
What upsets us GB fans, Breautys, is your assumption that Gary was somehow to blame for Robs addiction. If Rob had issues while in TT he should have raised them at the time. Instead, he masked his unhappiness and perhaps turned to drugs and alcohol as an escape.
Gaz was unaware of any tensions. He thought they were all having laughs, bless im. So I think the most he can be accused of is insensitivity.
I've never blamed Gary for Rob's addiction! What I try to explain is that Rob's bad behaviour comes from his addcition,and that Gary did wrong things too,that Rob isn't the only one guilty of the problems they had...And that it makes me angry that people judge him so bad without knowing him and knowing what this illness is really about. And I'm Gary's fan too,I like him,but he did worng things too,and we must be impartial and not blame Rob for all what happened...
It's immaterial that Mark & Gaz didn't speak until his second solo release; it was still a few years before TT got back together. So they didn't reunited their friendship for finance gain, clearly Mark had no major issues with Gary. The reason they probably didn't speak for several years after TT split is that they were all trying to get their own post-TT careers of the ground and didn't have time to contact.
Mark Owen didn't just keep in contact with Robbie, he has kept in contact with all of Take That; so the fact he still talks to Robbie is immaterial, as he also remained in touch with Gary Barlow.
If you're going to use that as an argument, then weight this out.... ONLY Mark stayed in touch with Robbie; Mark, Jay and Howard all stayed in touch with Gary.
Well,I don't have this information... I watched an interview on TV where the guys said that they haven't been in touch all this time,just Mark with Rob and Howard with Gary. And it's Mark,Howard, Jason and Gary who said that, not me...
Then how come on this very documentary, after they find out Robbie isn;t there, Mark declares that all four of them have stayed in touch! Gary Barlow produced some of Mark Owen's solo material!
Because they contact each other again a few years later.I have all Mark's albums,and Gary collaborated with him in the second album,that was many years later from the first one.And that's what they said in the interview, that they weren't friends afetr the break up,just Gary and Howard because both have kids, and Mark and Robbie because they have always been friends.
I'm talking about Bums on the street with no money, people who have lost everything through drink. These people aren't sitting in a multi-million pound pads drinking fine wines or doing drugs with Oasis or whatever. Addiction or not, you can't hide behind it to justify mistakes you have made.
These are just topics... My mom wasn't a bum, she had money,a house,a daughter,a job... And she falled into the addiction...
And I don't justify Rob's behaviour, I'm the first who says he acted in a wrong way... But I understand what caused this attitude and I don't understand that you judge him so bad and so cruelly...
I stated that the fact Robbie brought a fight (provoked by Barlow or not) into the public domain were the actions of an arsehole; and they were. How would you feel if one of your friends brought a private issue that you didn't want to the whole world knowing into the public domain and not only did that, but was calling you names left, right and centre and spreading nasty rumors about you? Answer that & then tell me you wouldn't defend yourself or deny things that were not true?
Of course I would defend myself, I'm not saying that Robbie acted in the right way,I just try to explain that his bad behaviour comes from the fact that he's an addict...If he weren't, maybe he would have known how to arrange the things with Gary in a nicest way.
robbie is sad - when tt splt up who slagged off who?? robbie slaged of gary - gary didnt say nowt - whos in rehab robbie - where is gary - sill being the nice man he is - god bless tt and gary - robbie you need rehab and therapy
What did Gary ever say other than his bitter dissapointment and the way Robbie treated him. That is all Gary has ever said about him. Robbie on the other hand put the boot in every chance he could.
And how do you know if Robbie behaviour isn't cause by the way Gary treated him while he was in TT? Any of us was there, so we can't know who started this "war". And even if Gary was dissapointed, insulting Rob in a TV show makes him lose all the reason he can have...
Not true, as you say none of us were there, so everything else you have said is pure speculation!
Even IF Barlow was as bad as Rob alleged there is one huge difference... whatever Barlow MIGHT have done was behind closed doors, not in front of the nation and not printed on the front of the newspapers like Robbie's immature act and if Barlow is asked in an interview what he thinks of it, he is more than entitled to defend himself against allegations.
I'm no going to continue with that... I find it silly... I mean, I'm not 14 years old anymore, and this is the classic discussion between teenagers... I just wonder if you have listened to the video, 'cause the guys admited that they weren't nice to Rob...
Of course I have listened to the video. The guys admitted they could have handled things better, they never admitted to being complete bastards, as Williams made them out to be. However, Robbie was a blatant brat and that's not open for debate, we can see clear evidence of that in his long drawn media whining during the ten year period after TT.
Whatever... I only hope that nobody from your friends or family will fall in the illness of addiction,'cause with your zero tolerance and zero understanding...
How dare you make a judgment like that? Just because I don't agree that Robbie's actions were justified. We were having a conversation and because I disagree with you, you make a personal insult about me. That says a lot more about you, than it ever will about me!
I'm not insulting you,I just say that it seems to me that you aren't tolerant and understanding...If you feel that as an insult I'm sorry,it wasn't my intention...
But it's evident that you don't understand it,'cause Rob's actions are caused by his addiction,I know it 'cause my mom was an addict and now she's drug therapyst,so I know a lot about this subject...
You don't know who I am, or what I know, or what experience I have or what I've seen. I know about addiction, real addiction. Not rock stars dabbling in drugs and slagging off their mates & using their addiction to justify being a brat.
With that you show that you don't really know about addiction... There's not true or false addiction, there's just addiction, and it's an illness that can concern anyone, no matters the job,the money,the age,the gender...
Nonsense; I never said there was "fake" addiction, just that you are trying to make out that Robbie has got it ultra bad, when h hasn't. At least he's got a good life & a good job, addiction hasn't beaten him completely. I know about addiction, don't go swanning around like you are the authority on the matter. If you were, you would know that Robbie Williams has got it much better than many, many others & wouldn't be as on the defense about it at this point.
I know you didn't said "fake addicition", but you sais that you know about addiction, "real addiction", and by that I understood that you think that Rob's addiction is not a Real addiction... and this illness is what it is and it's the same for everybody...
NO, it's a figure of speech, meaning that there are plenty of people who have it worse than Robbie, who have nothing. They certainly don't have hundreds or thousands of people defending them and excusing their actions because they got into a bad habit.
Well,the fact is that I don't defend just Robbie.Always that someone critisize an addict I defend him/her,because most of peopelo don't really know what is the addiction about and they attack the person.And it's not that this person is a bad person or a bastard,it's the addiction that makes them do bad things.
And one thing:Addiction is not a bas habit, it's an illness...
It is also a "habit", why do you think they call it a drug habit as well as an addiction. It's not an illness in the sence of something happening to you that had zero control over. It's an illness that came over because of choices that were made by that person and their lifestyle. Therefore it is an illness, but it is also a habit.
Sure,people can take drugs and not being addicted to them,that's an habit.But when this person needs the toxics is an addict and this is the illness, and when this happens,this person has no control over.And sometimes all come form the choices,but the W.H.O has dictaminated that there can be genetic factors as well.Not only the lifestyle is important,my mom had a patient thas was a nun...
I think what Breautys was trying to say is that a rehab clinic (Im assuming thats the kind of centre her mother works at) do not consider drug addiction or alcoholism within the control of someone who suffers from them. A habit suggests a will to do something unhealthy on purpose when in this case it is most definitely not that way at all. FabFM you are willfully trying to misunderstand Breautys and trying to be patronizing & clever when its obvious what she meant. Try to be more understanding?
I am not "obviously" trying to misunderstand anything or be patronizing or cleaver. Maybe you need to be more understanding and not try and act like you are all knowing, especially when you are on the internet speaking to someone you don't know.
You even started by saying "I think...", thus meaning you are NOT certain of anything, so don't claim you know what I am trying to do or be, when you do not. And hey, a Habit does not suggest someone is in control of what they are doing, it may mean that in some cases, but certainly not all! Like many words in the English language the meaning of the word also depends on the concept or situation it is used in.
You know what I read just then? "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah." You knew what she meant and you just came along with your "english language this and english language that." Stfu, sometimes foreigners don't get the perfect word but you stil know what they are trying to say. You were being awkward and irriatating. End of story.
I'm sure all you did read was "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah." Simply because you are above seeing that you could be wrong in juding someone you don't know. All this proves is you are an ignorant arsehole! Why don;t you stfu and stop making arrogant assumptions.
BTW, Breautys & I have already settled this and she knows EXACTLY what I meant & believes I didn't mean anything personally against her (which I did not) so who is the one being awkward here? Don't act like you know anything about this.. you don't...
What part wasn't meant to be an insult? the part where you said I had zero tolerance and therefore no compassion for others; or the part where I had no understanding? If that's not an insult, then I'd hate to hear you when you do decide to rip into someone.
It's not an insult to say that someone is not tolerant or understanding...Insulting is calling someone stupid,bastard, or things like that,and I haven't called you that...I just said what your comments make me think about you...I don't think I've insulted you,but I apologysed if you felt that as an insult, but you still quarreling me...
From Wikipedia "An insult is an expression, statement or behavior that is considered offensive, rude or degrading. Insults may be intentional or accidental"; thus what you did say was insulting, to me. Calling someone stupid, bastard, or things like that is also insulting, but it is also name calling, which is what you did not do. I do accept your apology and hold nothing against you personally, but it was still an insult.
OK Ok...I'm getting tired of this...I didn't pretend to insult you,maybe it's a language problem 'cause I'm not English...I don't feel insulted if someone says that I'm not toletant, that's why I don't think I've insulted you,but I repeat that I'm sorry if you took this as an insult cause it wasn't my intention...
Please don't post comments to tell me you're "getting tired" of me. If that's the case and you don't want to talk about an issue anymore, then feel free to not to have to respond & then you won't have to feel tired about it. Again, apology accepted and I have nothing personal against you; but I'm sure you can see, making assumptions about someone isn't a very nice thing to do, especially when the only way you "know" that person is via a few comments online.
And you forget that in a story there are two versions... It seems to me that you only pay attention to one... I have other information about what really happenend between them...
And can you tell me why if Gary is a saint and Rob is evil, why Mark is still Rob's friend?
When did I say Gary was a saint? Stop putting words into my mouth and using Robbie's addiction as an excuse for him to have a license to be a brat. Addiction does not excuse you from your actions, it only explains (in part) why they happen. If someone's addiction leads to them fatally harming another human being, no one sees is as a "get out of jail free card", neither is it an "excuse me for being a bastard" card.
I didn't said that you said it, but the way you attack Robbie and you defend Gary, seems to mean that for you Rob is an asshole and Gary perfect... And I think both did good and bad things...
And sure the addiction doesn't exonarate you from your mistakes,but as you said, it explains them, and Robbie has apologysed and recognised that he feels ashamed...
Well, in this case, maybe you should just stick to what I say only, rather than trying to fill in gaps. If you want to know my views on things I have not said anything about, ask questions rather than assume. Assumptions are never a good thing.
I'm not assuming anything. I'm looking at the facts. Fact: Robbie states that he left the band after they confronted him about not pulling his weight, being late and unreliable, not because they all had big egos and pushed him out like he told the media at the time. That's not an interpretation, that's what was said!
Yes,and that proves that Rob is nice,he's recognizing his mistakes and he apologyses form the bad things he did and said.And the guys have forgiven him,so why not us?
And we should think about why did Rob acted in a so unprofessional way:becasue of his addiction and because of Gary's attitude towards him and his talent...
When Robbie first joint the band, he was not going anywhere. Gary was, he had already had started up in the biz with Nigel & Take That was formed around him, he wasn't an ego-manic, he wasn't in a group of five equals trying to get to be the main one, he was the main one from day one.
Howard, hes a little heart breaker isn't he!! He is such a cute dad! Bless! Robbie... nob sorry! and Jason, yes, I have insomnia to, your not alone :P
It's ironic. When they were in Take That; Robbie hated Gary, because he was the more successful member in the band. Now he hates Gary because he has been able to make a nice life for himself and Robbie hasn't because he couldn't handle the success!
What are you talking about? Gary hated Robbie while he was in Take That because he was jealous...Rob's the one who singed the most after Gary, and Gary didn't like this because he though he was the one singing anf the other four just to support him...
That is a lousy rumor. There has never been any real evidence to support that. For example Gary was more than happy for Robbie to sing lead vocals on songs. However, like it or not, Take That was Gary's band. People forget when the group was formed they were formed around Gary's music, he was the one who was the musician. Robbie wanted to be an actor for goodness sake!
Yeah!I love Robbie too... I mean,I'm a big fan of Take That and that's why I don't understand the take that fans who say they hate Robbie,'cause Robbie was a very important member of Take That...
I don't agree with you, sorry... Maybe Gary's career marketing wasn't so good... And even if Rob's success was the cause, this isn't enough to hate a person... And if the boys have forgiven Robbie, why the fans haven't? I don't understand...
I live across the pond where TT are a non issue so UTube is my only source for TT videos and interviews. I have become a huge fan since they have reunited. Cheers.
Rob and Marc are my two very favourites :-)
kraususa 3 months ago
I understand Jason when he's talking about that something kicking in and challenging himself
usernamemaybe 5 months ago
2:42 OMG ITS ANT AND DEC!!!!!!!!! never expected them to be in this
flower1997lol 10 months ago
does anyone know the name of the song Mark is playing at 02:07 ?
It sounds really beautiful :) xxx
LikkleFreakie 1 year ago
aww, when mark said he missed rob the most it made me cry :'( i knew they were good friends, but it's still so sweet...
dingo79saddleclub 1 year ago 4
howard lives where i live in bournemouth/poole! :) we saw him in halfords about 2 or 3 months ago haha we didnt recognise him at first!
sophieboydxx 1 year ago
jason is soo hot! i like how he chooses to be single.. hes obviously happy that way otherwise he wouldnt be single would he really? cos hed at least try and find someone, but hes happy and thats what makes us happy! some people like their life like that and we support him all the way! :)
sophieboydxx 1 year ago
im not a Mark Owen fan but he is seriously under-rated. he has alot of talent as a singer-song writer, clementine, 4 minutes, the boodie, etc are all great songs
TheMuziekmann 1 year ago 6
Haha! Radiohead stole a song title from Mark Owen. Probably. They also have a song called Four Minute Warning.
kemikalrxn 1 year ago
does jason live in Ibiza??
salameda84 1 year ago
Why does Jason sound so gay in this interview?
ribenariver 1 year ago
@ribenariver cos he is gay! bless him! although still extremely hot!
xXxkandjmadworldxXx 1 year ago
@xXxkandjmadworldxXx hes not gay? hahaa
sophieboydxx 1 year ago
@sophieboydxx he most definaltly is! lol
xXxkandjmadworldxXx 1 year ago
@xXxkandjmadworldxXx how do you know?
sophieboydxx 1 year ago
@sophieboydxx is it not kind of obvious?
xXxkandjmadworldxXx 1 year ago
how lovely is the daughter? shes really pretty and he Howard looks so great as a daddy!
mzednikova 1 year ago
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after seeing this again, it's hard to watch the rest of it knowing that half of the band are currently in the middle of scandals this year. words can't express how i feel towards what's been going on with them lately.
but on the other hand, this clip of Howard with Grace is pretty rad : 4:37 - Grace is like, "Dad! Cut it out! You're embarrassing me!".
ttqsg 1 year ago
after seeing this again, it's hard to watch the rest of it knowing that half of the band are currently in the middle of scandals this year. words can't express how i feel towards what's been going on with them lately.
but on the other hand, this clip of Howard with Grace is pretty rad : 4:38 - Grace is like, "Dad! Cut it out! You're embarrassing me!".
ttqsg 1 year ago
Jason looks gorgeous in those sunglasses
xxAmberxx2375 1 year ago 2
Where did jason live at this time
xxAmberxx2375 1 year ago
Cute kid.
ImBringing30Back 1 year ago
@Cluebert
howards not married and mark only got married bout a month ago (your comment was a year ago).
sorry it's just one of the little nitpick things that get me when people get them wrong
scamrasc 2 years ago
Mark has a funny accent!
naddom74 2 years ago 5
erm...gary's the only married one
scamrasc 2 years ago
markie too..
and i think rob is the next one ;)
julyrw 2 years ago
@julyrw
mark's married now too, but at the time i wrote that comment gary was the only married member
scamrasc 2 years ago
ROBBIE WILLIAMS' stunning fiancée AYDA FIELD gives the world the first glimpse of her jumbo sparkler.
The brunette showed off her engagement ring as she cheered Robbie to winning a footie match.
Loved-up Robbie, 35, proposed to his girlfriend of three years just before New Year.
WHAT DID YOU SAY?
julyrw 2 years ago
i said that at the time of the comment gary was the only married member, and currently only gary and mark are married.
anything else you need cleared up?
scamrasc 2 years ago
I do not know why everybody condemns Robbie. They kick him and one year after they split. Why to put the fault on him?. Robbie make this documentary and his celebrity played in favour of the band. A lot of persons like me (witch aren't English) know Take That for Robbie.
lamponefran 2 years ago 5
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They did not kick Rob out they simply told him to straighten himself out as he was affecting the rest of them. As for dedicating No Regrets to TT was below the belt. I'm sure he's regretting it now. Btw Rob never cracked the US.
shanc1978 2 years ago
When Robbie says "I would swap everything that I have for that" he talk about the band Take That. He was depress and nobody helped him.
lamponefran 2 years ago
As I understood, Robbie said he'd swap everything he's achieved so far as a global superstar, including 14 Brits, with the sort of domestic life Gary Barlow has - a happy married life with kids.
ManishForGood 2 years ago 5
In his web site, he said that he always want to be part of a band. He miss their friendship, he also know that he have make a lot of mistakes but he said he was so depressed and they don't help him.
lamponefran 2 years ago
But it's not possible for somebody like Robbie to be a part of a band like Take That. I say this because he wants to lead, wheather it's in the studio or in a concert or on tour!!! And Take That are a band who've got the godly Gary Barlow who's got better voice than anyone in the world who attempts to sing. And on writing, Gary and Robbie have got different themes to choose. Gary writes songs that are nice for a good pop song, whereas Robbie is more into nostalgic ideas - something like poetry.
ManishForGood 2 years ago 6
@ManishForGood i think he just wanted some musical input and seems now happy for gary to take the lead and play second fiddle
09xxlunaxx09 2 years ago
@09xxlunaxx09
that's part of the problem. he has been quoted as saying he "wouldn't mind" playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle. meaning he still sees it as a hierarchy, and even though he's spent 10 solid years slagging them all off, and is no longer a part of the band anymore, he still sees himself of higher status in the 5 piece than, say, howard and jason, and probably mark. the 4 piece of today is balanced - everyone contributes, and everyone is equal. robbie still just can't see that.
scamrasc 2 years ago
@lamponefran
is that any kind of excuse for for the hateful, bitchy and bitter remarks he has consistantly made about them. even as recently as the very year this was filmed (2005) at the brit awards he still just couldn't leave it alone and accept his award in a dignified manner. he's childish and immature and i'm sorry (i know i'll get about a million minuses for this, even though it's just my honest opinion) but i could never respect a man like that.
scamrasc 2 years ago
@scamrasc
yeah, it's hard to feel sorry for ROb because he was sooo malicious. I mean Rudebox, and really this last album are a waste of space. And SUDDENLY he records with TT again in the studio. like u say, hard to respect him. Gary has done well not to hire a hitman after he tried to make him look like a c**t; never mind being friends. Robbie, why dont YOU fuck off!
hyllaf 2 years ago 3
@hyllaf Hey, they all made mistakes, there's no point in blaming Rob alone. Even the other guys already said they didn't take Rob seriously and that they were mean to him sometimes... and the fans shouldn't be thinking of that. They managed to forgive themselves, and that's the most important thing! We all should enjoy the miracle it is that the five of them got together!! It's a miracle made out of love! A beautiful ending to a beautiful story!
thaisinhafc 1 year ago
@lamponefran
btw they ddn't kick him out he left. yes he was depressed but he never showed up for any rehearsals or anything anymore. instead he chose to go to glastonbury with oasis (because that turned out to be such a blossoming friendship) because, in his own words, that was the kind of "cool" he wanted to be in. he thought himself better at this point and left them high and dry.
scamrasc 2 years ago
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so they havent seen robbie ever since?thats so sad.. whats wrong with these people(or robbie)
Mattonna 2 years ago
It's quite sad the bit when Mark mentions that he still misses Robbie, its kinda sweet, suppose we can all relate to that in life in a way.....
Kiniya1 2 years ago 17
Howard's daughter's gorgeous, he looks like he's such a good Father!
Really glad things worked out for them all!
JohnnyBoy2802 2 years ago 29
wow howard seems like a reli good father an his daughter has the most cutest face smile voice an singing voice lol
TakeThat09x 3 years ago 27
i love mark owen sooo much. its unreal
(LLLL)
xbroganbabex 3 years ago 10
if jasons happy with his life we should be happy for him
clewbe 3 years ago 14
Everything i wanna to be, everytime i walked away,
everytime you told me to leave and i just wanna to stay,
everytime you looked at me, and everytime you smiled,
i felt so vacant, you treat me like a child,
i love the way we used to laugh, i love the way we used to smile
often i sit down and i think of you for a while,
then it passed me by and i think of someone else instead
i guess the love we once had is officially.. DEAD!
julyrw 3 years ago 4
i lovee TT ther better off wifout robbie, bless Jason i love him hes so sweet. x:)
princetongirl0894 3 years ago 16
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no regrets is the best song tht all o the boys have done solo nothing beats it its even better than angels if u disgree check out my vids
bazzelbrush21 3 years ago
Mark Nd Robbie Rule
bazzelbrush21 3 years ago 4
Robbie Williams is a dick. He is a self important asshole. He should get some humility. This clown cant see the wood for the trees!
livelylad 3 years ago 10
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Love Robbie!!!! Brilliant person and amazing fantastic singer!!!!!
rolumabo 3 years ago
I agree with centire web. I love Jason n just because he dunt av kids or a wife it dunt meenhes gay.
XXBIGGESTtakethatFAN 3 years ago 11
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Jason needs to grow up!
He's a bit too old to be playing the field he should have a proper family!
FoxyRoxanne01 3 years ago
People can be happy singles all their live!! Not everybody needs to have a family and kids. That doesn;t make everybody happy! If he is happy with the way he is living his life than just leave him alone. Let him play the field and it's a stupid comment saying that he is too old for that. That's just STUPID!!!
michaeldeboer 3 years ago 10
Iv been on that beach a dozen of times!! : D
I have sand from that beach lol : P
Take That are awesome!!
Best band ever!!
MusicalMe2 3 years ago 4
rob is an excellent singer and song writer but he still have that grudge in him towards what happened in the past... he needs to really let go. it seems like he is but he is not, he looks much older than he rest of the member coz of the drugs and alcohol and he is not happy.
pooisi 3 years ago
I hate the way people subtley make Jason out to be a wierdo or gay because he's not married with kids. Some people choose not to lead a traditional life and that's way more respectable then doing what everyone expects or says you should do.
centireweb 3 years ago 7
I like your comment. I'm 26, all my friends getting married, but I dont want to yet...'cause i know i'm not ready...just not everybody's timing is the same. If he has not found the right person yet...then he better b alone & enjoy life...Life is more than having a family. I would love tohave a family in the future...but some of us r just not ready yet!
chilemeli 3 years ago 4
didn't you know that Jakarta was the last city of Nobody Else's tour probably 13 years ago and i was there?!!~~~ I was about 14 years old that time and couple weeks later they had announced that they split up.. :(
but so glad they came back~ i bought the magnificent Beautiful World album, and of course, beautiful world &ultimate tour DVD.
I really really really wanna see them live here again, in Jakarta..
Thank you for upload this video. Really love Take That.
riefand 3 years ago 6
lho org indo jg toh..lol
sherads 3 years ago
Howard and his daughter! so cute!..and the song babe.
love the song of mark owen.... the greatest love song
Great concert Rob!!!!
meliandypandi 3 years ago 3
does mark still live in the Lake District foes anyone know???? xxx
Caoiluvsmarkowen 3 years ago 3
I think he doesn't live there anymore... But I'm not sure...
Breautys 3 years ago
@Caoiluvsmarkowen He does still have a home near to Kirkby Lonsdale - I had heard when he had this affair he took her there, but who knows if that is true?
EdensSecret1 1 year ago
i wuld of brought howards album
KECWRESTLING 3 years ago 5
aww howard and his little girl...so sweet
NickeyNoodles 3 years ago 6
howard, so sweet with your girl!
jojoelephant 3 years ago 15
Yeah... You're right... He inspires me so tenderness when I watch theses images...
Breautys 3 years ago
without a doubt mark is the sweetest, when he mentions his publishing deal my heart melts!!
BettieKitten 3 years ago 8
Aww Howards daughter is so cutee!!!
mrcolesexyarse 3 years ago 7
Their all hot! =]
ROLOVESMCFLY4EVA 3 years ago 11
LOL
I couldn't have expressed it better...
Breautys 3 years ago
Howard is such a hot daddy....
lolor22 3 years ago 5
I like this bit, where it shows you about where they live. :]
kathrynere2k7 3 years ago 4
Me too!
Breautys 3 years ago
I think Mark's dog is cute. And Mark... Mark, Mark, Mark...
Cuppido96 4 years ago 8
Wow, i really didn't know Howard has a daughter. She's so cute, and looks like her dad.
And Howard is still veerryyy hot :) :D
sapieru1a 4 years ago 3
Hi! Thanks 4 ur comment. Yeah, Howard is really hot and sexy... lol...
In fact he has 2 daughters.The girl form the video is Grace, and he has also a little girl named Lola with his current couple.
Greetings!
Breautys 4 years ago
Oh! :) didn't know that either.
Thanks!!! ;)
sapieru1a 4 years ago
i love mark owen... its such a shame that ppl didnt support his solo carrear
:(
i defently did lol
doddlecuddle 4 years ago 5
I agree with u... Mark's solo albums are great! I have all of them... The problem was that many of the younger fans didn't accept the different music style and Mark's different look...
Breautys 4 years ago
What upsets us GB fans, Breautys, is your assumption that Gary was somehow to blame for Robs addiction. If Rob had issues while in TT he should have raised them at the time. Instead, he masked his unhappiness and perhaps turned to drugs and alcohol as an escape.
Gaz was unaware of any tensions. He thought they were all having laughs, bless im. So I think the most he can be accused of is insensitivity.
Jaggy64 4 years ago 8
I've never blamed Gary for Rob's addiction! What I try to explain is that Rob's bad behaviour comes from his addcition,and that Gary did wrong things too,that Rob isn't the only one guilty of the problems they had...And that it makes me angry that people judge him so bad without knowing him and knowing what this illness is really about. And I'm Gary's fan too,I like him,but he did worng things too,and we must be impartial and not blame Rob for all what happened...
Breautys 4 years ago
It's immaterial that Mark & Gaz didn't speak until his second solo release; it was still a few years before TT got back together. So they didn't reunited their friendship for finance gain, clearly Mark had no major issues with Gary. The reason they probably didn't speak for several years after TT split is that they were all trying to get their own post-TT careers of the ground and didn't have time to contact.
FabFM 4 years ago
Mark Owen didn't just keep in contact with Robbie, he has kept in contact with all of Take That; so the fact he still talks to Robbie is immaterial, as he also remained in touch with Gary Barlow.
FabFM 4 years ago
Yes, but if Robbie is sooooo bad,I don't think that Mark would have been in touch with him...
Breautys 4 years ago
If you're going to use that as an argument, then weight this out.... ONLY Mark stayed in touch with Robbie; Mark, Jay and Howard all stayed in touch with Gary.
FabFM 4 years ago
Well,I don't have this information... I watched an interview on TV where the guys said that they haven't been in touch all this time,just Mark with Rob and Howard with Gary. And it's Mark,Howard, Jason and Gary who said that, not me...
Breautys 4 years ago
Then how come on this very documentary, after they find out Robbie isn;t there, Mark declares that all four of them have stayed in touch! Gary Barlow produced some of Mark Owen's solo material!
FabFM 4 years ago
Because they contact each other again a few years later.I have all Mark's albums,and Gary collaborated with him in the second album,that was many years later from the first one.And that's what they said in the interview, that they weren't friends afetr the break up,just Gary and Howard because both have kids, and Mark and Robbie because they have always been friends.
Breautys 4 years ago
I'm talking about Bums on the street with no money, people who have lost everything through drink. These people aren't sitting in a multi-million pound pads drinking fine wines or doing drugs with Oasis or whatever. Addiction or not, you can't hide behind it to justify mistakes you have made.
FabFM 4 years ago
These are just topics... My mom wasn't a bum, she had money,a house,a daughter,a job... And she falled into the addiction...
And I don't justify Rob's behaviour, I'm the first who says he acted in a wrong way... But I understand what caused this attitude and I don't understand that you judge him so bad and so cruelly...
Breautys 4 years ago
I stated that the fact Robbie brought a fight (provoked by Barlow or not) into the public domain were the actions of an arsehole; and they were. How would you feel if one of your friends brought a private issue that you didn't want to the whole world knowing into the public domain and not only did that, but was calling you names left, right and centre and spreading nasty rumors about you? Answer that & then tell me you wouldn't defend yourself or deny things that were not true?
FabFM 4 years ago
Of course I would defend myself, I'm not saying that Robbie acted in the right way,I just try to explain that his bad behaviour comes from the fact that he's an addict...If he weren't, maybe he would have known how to arrange the things with Gary in a nicest way.
Breautys 4 years ago
hmnn im not sure - i liked rob until he turned into a bitter a hole - he would ave suited oasis
honeysweetiejodie 4 years ago
robbie is sad - when tt splt up who slagged off who?? robbie slaged of gary - gary didnt say nowt - whos in rehab robbie - where is gary - sill being the nice man he is - god bless tt and gary - robbie you need rehab and therapy
honeysweetiejodie 4 years ago
Yes, Robbie's life is sad, and yes, he needs rehab and therapy.
But it's not true that Gary didn't said anything, 'cause he did...
Breautys 4 years ago
What did Gary ever say other than his bitter dissapointment and the way Robbie treated him. That is all Gary has ever said about him. Robbie on the other hand put the boot in every chance he could.
FabFM 4 years ago
And how do you know if Robbie behaviour isn't cause by the way Gary treated him while he was in TT? Any of us was there, so we can't know who started this "war". And even if Gary was dissapointed, insulting Rob in a TV show makes him lose all the reason he can have...
Breautys 4 years ago
Not true, as you say none of us were there, so everything else you have said is pure speculation!
Even IF Barlow was as bad as Rob alleged there is one huge difference... whatever Barlow MIGHT have done was behind closed doors, not in front of the nation and not printed on the front of the newspapers like Robbie's immature act and if Barlow is asked in an interview what he thinks of it, he is more than entitled to defend himself against allegations.
FabFM 4 years ago 2
I'm no going to continue with that... I find it silly... I mean, I'm not 14 years old anymore, and this is the classic discussion between teenagers... I just wonder if you have listened to the video, 'cause the guys admited that they weren't nice to Rob...
Breautys 4 years ago
Of course I have listened to the video. The guys admitted they could have handled things better, they never admitted to being complete bastards, as Williams made them out to be. However, Robbie was a blatant brat and that's not open for debate, we can see clear evidence of that in his long drawn media whining during the ten year period after TT.
FabFM 4 years ago 2
Whatever... I only hope that nobody from your friends or family will fall in the illness of addiction,'cause with your zero tolerance and zero understanding...
Breautys 4 years ago
How dare you make a judgment like that? Just because I don't agree that Robbie's actions were justified. We were having a conversation and because I disagree with you, you make a personal insult about me. That says a lot more about you, than it ever will about me!
FabFM 4 years ago 2
I'm not insulting you,I just say that it seems to me that you aren't tolerant and understanding...If you feel that as an insult I'm sorry,it wasn't my intention...
But it's evident that you don't understand it,'cause Rob's actions are caused by his addiction,I know it 'cause my mom was an addict and now she's drug therapyst,so I know a lot about this subject...
Breautys 4 years ago
You don't know who I am, or what I know, or what experience I have or what I've seen. I know about addiction, real addiction. Not rock stars dabbling in drugs and slagging off their mates & using their addiction to justify being a brat.
FabFM 4 years ago
With that you show that you don't really know about addiction... There's not true or false addiction, there's just addiction, and it's an illness that can concern anyone, no matters the job,the money,the age,the gender...
Breautys 4 years ago
Nonsense; I never said there was "fake" addiction, just that you are trying to make out that Robbie has got it ultra bad, when h hasn't. At least he's got a good life & a good job, addiction hasn't beaten him completely. I know about addiction, don't go swanning around like you are the authority on the matter. If you were, you would know that Robbie Williams has got it much better than many, many others & wouldn't be as on the defense about it at this point.
FabFM 4 years ago
I know you didn't said "fake addicition", but you sais that you know about addiction, "real addiction", and by that I understood that you think that Rob's addiction is not a Real addiction... and this illness is what it is and it's the same for everybody...
Breautys 4 years ago
NO, it's a figure of speech, meaning that there are plenty of people who have it worse than Robbie, who have nothing. They certainly don't have hundreds or thousands of people defending them and excusing their actions because they got into a bad habit.
FabFM 4 years ago
Well,the fact is that I don't defend just Robbie.Always that someone critisize an addict I defend him/her,because most of peopelo don't really know what is the addiction about and they attack the person.And it's not that this person is a bad person or a bastard,it's the addiction that makes them do bad things.
And one thing:Addiction is not a bas habit, it's an illness...
Breautys 4 years ago
It is also a "habit", why do you think they call it a drug habit as well as an addiction. It's not an illness in the sence of something happening to you that had zero control over. It's an illness that came over because of choices that were made by that person and their lifestyle. Therefore it is an illness, but it is also a habit.
FabFM 4 years ago
Sure,people can take drugs and not being addicted to them,that's an habit.But when this person needs the toxics is an addict and this is the illness, and when this happens,this person has no control over.And sometimes all come form the choices,but the W.H.O has dictaminated that there can be genetic factors as well.Not only the lifestyle is important,my mom had a patient thas was a nun...
Breautys 4 years ago
Definition of "Habit" : an acquired pattern of behavior that often occurs automatically
So yes, addictions are habits!
FabFM 4 years ago
I think it depends on the version...The center where my mom works doesn't consider it a habit but an illness.
Breautys 4 years ago
It's an illness that consists of a habit. Your mothers center is not the authority on what words in the English language mean.
FabFM 4 years ago
I think what Breautys was trying to say is that a rehab clinic (Im assuming thats the kind of centre her mother works at) do not consider drug addiction or alcoholism within the control of someone who suffers from them. A habit suggests a will to do something unhealthy on purpose when in this case it is most definitely not that way at all. FabFM you are willfully trying to misunderstand Breautys and trying to be patronizing & clever when its obvious what she meant. Try to be more understanding?
sestrensaz 4 years ago
I am not "obviously" trying to misunderstand anything or be patronizing or cleaver. Maybe you need to be more understanding and not try and act like you are all knowing, especially when you are on the internet speaking to someone you don't know.
FabFM 4 years ago
You even started by saying "I think...", thus meaning you are NOT certain of anything, so don't claim you know what I am trying to do or be, when you do not. And hey, a Habit does not suggest someone is in control of what they are doing, it may mean that in some cases, but certainly not all! Like many words in the English language the meaning of the word also depends on the concept or situation it is used in.
FabFM 4 years ago
You know what I read just then? "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah." You knew what she meant and you just came along with your "english language this and english language that." Stfu, sometimes foreigners don't get the perfect word but you stil know what they are trying to say. You were being awkward and irriatating. End of story.
sestrensaz 4 years ago
No it's not the end of the story, you can just blow hot air all you want and it wont alter the fact you are wrong.
FabFM 4 years ago
I'm sure all you did read was "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah." Simply because you are above seeing that you could be wrong in juding someone you don't know. All this proves is you are an ignorant arsehole! Why don;t you stfu and stop making arrogant assumptions.
FabFM 4 years ago
tl;dr
sestrensaz 4 years ago
BTW, Breautys & I have already settled this and she knows EXACTLY what I meant & believes I didn't mean anything personally against her (which I did not) so who is the one being awkward here? Don't act like you know anything about this.. you don't...
FabFM 4 years ago
What part wasn't meant to be an insult? the part where you said I had zero tolerance and therefore no compassion for others; or the part where I had no understanding? If that's not an insult, then I'd hate to hear you when you do decide to rip into someone.
FabFM 4 years ago 2
It's not an insult to say that someone is not tolerant or understanding...Insulting is calling someone stupid,bastard, or things like that,and I haven't called you that...I just said what your comments make me think about you...I don't think I've insulted you,but I apologysed if you felt that as an insult, but you still quarreling me...
Breautys 4 years ago
From Wikipedia "An insult is an expression, statement or behavior that is considered offensive, rude or degrading. Insults may be intentional or accidental"; thus what you did say was insulting, to me. Calling someone stupid, bastard, or things like that is also insulting, but it is also name calling, which is what you did not do. I do accept your apology and hold nothing against you personally, but it was still an insult.
FabFM 4 years ago
OK Ok...I'm getting tired of this...I didn't pretend to insult you,maybe it's a language problem 'cause I'm not English...I don't feel insulted if someone says that I'm not toletant, that's why I don't think I've insulted you,but I repeat that I'm sorry if you took this as an insult cause it wasn't my intention...
Breautys 4 years ago
Please don't post comments to tell me you're "getting tired" of me. If that's the case and you don't want to talk about an issue anymore, then feel free to not to have to respond & then you won't have to feel tired about it. Again, apology accepted and I have nothing personal against you; but I'm sure you can see, making assumptions about someone isn't a very nice thing to do, especially when the only way you "know" that person is via a few comments online.
FabFM 4 years ago
I didn't said that I was getting tired of you, but of the conversation...I feel that we are repeating the same thing but with different words...
Breautys 4 years ago
Then feel free not to repeat if you don't desire to do so.
FabFM 4 years ago
And you forget that in a story there are two versions... It seems to me that you only pay attention to one... I have other information about what really happenend between them...
And can you tell me why if Gary is a saint and Rob is evil, why Mark is still Rob's friend?
Breautys 4 years ago
When did I say Gary was a saint? Stop putting words into my mouth and using Robbie's addiction as an excuse for him to have a license to be a brat. Addiction does not excuse you from your actions, it only explains (in part) why they happen. If someone's addiction leads to them fatally harming another human being, no one sees is as a "get out of jail free card", neither is it an "excuse me for being a bastard" card.
FabFM 4 years ago
I didn't said that you said it, but the way you attack Robbie and you defend Gary, seems to mean that for you Rob is an asshole and Gary perfect... And I think both did good and bad things...
And sure the addiction doesn't exonarate you from your mistakes,but as you said, it explains them, and Robbie has apologysed and recognised that he feels ashamed...
Breautys 4 years ago
Well, in this case, maybe you should just stick to what I say only, rather than trying to fill in gaps. If you want to know my views on things I have not said anything about, ask questions rather than assume. Assumptions are never a good thing.
FabFM 4 years ago
You're right,assumption aren't a good thing, buy everybody interpret what anotherone says...
And you are also doing assumptions about what I say and what really happened between the guys...It's just that yours are different from mine...
Breautys 4 years ago
I'm not assuming anything. I'm looking at the facts. Fact: Robbie states that he left the band after they confronted him about not pulling his weight, being late and unreliable, not because they all had big egos and pushed him out like he told the media at the time. That's not an interpretation, that's what was said!
FabFM 4 years ago
Yes,and that proves that Rob is nice,he's recognizing his mistakes and he apologyses form the bad things he did and said.And the guys have forgiven him,so why not us?
And we should think about why did Rob acted in a so unprofessional way:becasue of his addiction and because of Gary's attitude towards him and his talent...
Breautys 4 years ago
When Robbie first joint the band, he was not going anywhere. Gary was, he had already had started up in the biz with Nigel & Take That was formed around him, he wasn't an ego-manic, he wasn't in a group of five equals trying to get to be the main one, he was the main one from day one.
FabFM 4 years ago 5
Howard, hes a little heart breaker isn't he!! He is such a cute dad! Bless! Robbie... nob sorry! and Jason, yes, I have insomnia to, your not alone :P
BkueSkysNdButterflys 4 years ago 2
I agree with all the above. Especially the Howard bit!
Thanks for uploading, by the way. I've just finished Gary's autobiography & really wanted to see this again.
I think Gary comes across as a decent human being, and Robbie comes across as a sad and bitter idiot. Why is he still insulting Gary? Pathetic!
P3ggySioux 4 years ago
It's ironic. When they were in Take That; Robbie hated Gary, because he was the more successful member in the band. Now he hates Gary because he has been able to make a nice life for himself and Robbie hasn't because he couldn't handle the success!
FabFM 4 years ago
What are you talking about? Gary hated Robbie while he was in Take That because he was jealous...Rob's the one who singed the most after Gary, and Gary didn't like this because he though he was the one singing anf the other four just to support him...
Breautys 4 years ago
That is a lousy rumor. There has never been any real evidence to support that. For example Gary was more than happy for Robbie to sing lead vocals on songs. However, like it or not, Take That was Gary's band. People forget when the group was formed they were formed around Gary's music, he was the one who was the musician. Robbie wanted to be an actor for goodness sake!
FabFM 4 years ago 2
ROOOBBIEEE!!! you are the BEST!!
moeylein1 4 years ago
Yeah!I love Robbie too... I mean,I'm a big fan of Take That and that's why I don't understand the take that fans who say they hate Robbie,'cause Robbie was a very important member of Take That...
Greetings!
Breautys 4 years ago
I think the reason most of us "hate" Robbie is because the only bigger disaster in music than Gary's failed solo career was Robbie's success.
FabFM 4 years ago
I don't agree with you, sorry... Maybe Gary's career marketing wasn't so good... And even if Rob's success was the cause, this isn't enough to hate a person... And if the boys have forgiven Robbie, why the fans haven't? I don't understand...
Breautys 4 years ago
We don't hate the person (we don't know him) we hate the music (even if we think he comes across as a bellend on TV).
FabFM 4 years ago
A Hate Robbbbbbiiiiieeeee
XxxFultonSistersxxX 4 years ago 2
i love take that great video thanks for adding!!!!
takethatrock 4 years ago 4
I'm glad that you like it!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Breautys 4 years ago
I live across the pond where TT are a non issue so UTube is my only source for TT videos and interviews. I have become a huge fan since they have reunited. Cheers.
76Tanja 4 years ago 3
Well, if you don't have much access to TT material, I'm glad having upload these videos so you can watch them...
Cheers.
Breautys 4 years ago
Thanks for your comments, I like people to comment the videos I upload to YouTube...
Greetings!
Breautys 4 years ago
nice video i wached this on tv when it come on itv1
nosiaqulnohayamor 4 years ago 2