愛台灣 趕羚羊 全民大悶鍋

[loveforever20111]

aviva12341

不無聊 為了自己的國家 不無聊

我到覺得挺值得 連抱怨都不行?

言論自由哩 Where?

[aviva12341]

你们无不无聊，看电视就看电视，说他妈什么政治，你说有用吗？人­民无罪，这个道理你都不明白，抱怨个屁啊

[amigotokyo]

在台湾国民的認同中大概祇有兩種・中国的台湾人&台湾的台湾人。



[ken30202]

KOBE以前ㄉ樣子ㄝXD

[ndmcfly]

 看羚羊啊...趕羚啊....哈哈哈

[princekushiro]

巧克男孩耶.......

[bmi89757]

xxangelxx288 請你注意一下你的措詞 支那是二次世界大戰時日本人貶低中國人的詞 你不是個中國人嗎？？ 不過說真的 現在還有年輕人在反日我真的很驚訝 現在年輕人已經沒有所謂的抗日情節了 只有嘴砲 惟恐天下不亂的嘴砲

[juisin]

九孔不管演什么都很九孔，还是很好笑

[blackkoi]

this look fuuny as hell i wise america would teach langues i cant understand.

[xxangelxx288]

一些假借娛樂,粽藝節目之名的支那走狗............­.­...............凸



[even1007]

我在意大利！经常去政府机构办事，总会被问到我是中国人还是中华­民国人！nnd我说都是中国人！

[islay97]

我在加拿大也是遇過外國朋友問我是 Taiwanese 還是 Chinese ...

並不是每個國家都認為東方人都叫 Chinese。

[y98741g]

1:35 失智老人嗎 XDDDD

[kira8015]

黑九孔長得好像KOBE

XD

[hidekiitw]

上海世博主題曲抄襲日本人曲子。

有人當場脫褲子大便。

媽媽帶小孩尿在場館垃圾桶裡。

還真他媽的高級有水準。

[leechengsiang]

@hidekiitw

世博 is SB...

[harrylcy118]

低俗,但不無道理。尤其是施明德的寫信論。很多說愛國的人,連正­式中文公函的格式都忘記呢,還有文言文呢?前後赤壁賦,前後出師­表這些優美的文言作品,還有很多人會背呢?

[senqiao]

台湾再也出不了像邓丽君那样高雅美丽让人怀念的人了

[hidekiitw]

@senqiao

抄襲大國，中國以作古的文人先賢不知做何感想 ? 

[17415246]

潘阿=凱子XDD

[jeff19851124]

" 攀关系的社会"  和大陆一样

[toptony0512]

這是哪一集阿-.-

郭掏很好笑= =

[terry0706t]

哈哈 超像巧克男孩

[jimehi2001]

是巧克先生吧

哈哈哈

[loveyou1989717]

哈哈哈~~~

好多羚羊XDDDD

[kenny5857]

巧克男孩！？

[willy0938069170]

XDDDDDDDDDD

對阿

好像喔

[ringehdingeh]

畫工仔畫出血汗好嗎

[unzipboon]

I just dont understand why this unify n independence issue keep popping out in every taiwan video. cant u all just enjoy the video?? no matter how much debates are being held nothing will change.. taiwan cannot gain independence because no countries in the right mind will antoganise china 2 recognise the independence n independence need 2 be recognise not simply by declaring it. Unify is also out of the question right now. so let the status quo remain n let next next or next generations 2 settle

[HasegawaMasato]

還有就是，這種節目只是爲了效果，一來沒學問，二來沒禁忌，大家­看看娛樂就好，每天看自己思維都被感染了。題外話，以免有人因爲­這個節目學到錯誤知識，羚羊並非非洲才有的動物，其實只有美洲和­澳洲沒有羚羊，世界其它地方都有，中國内地比較出名的就有藏羚羊­。

[HasegawaMasato]

會這樣那是因爲許多人都弄不清楚民族和國家的分別，我見過有台灣­罵地震死去的人活該，也見過大陸罵台灣類似的話。其實大家都弄不­清楚，政治背景不同不代表什麽，走到世界各地，外國人叫我們都叫­Chinese，爲了各自的政黨你們可以肆無忌憚的罵對頭政權，­但請不要把人民拖下水，聽到有人說地震死去的是報應之類的話真的­很傷心。

[crownboston]

@HasegawaMasato 兄弟,说得好.民族永远高于国家

[crownboston]

@HasegawaMasato @HasegawaMasato 兄弟,说得好.民族永远高于国家

[WuBingWay]

@HasegawaMasato 我在加拿大怎麼有白人稱呼我Taiwanese?

[HENRIDASSALT]

@WuBingWay 在法国还有人管我叫日本人，搞错就罢了吧。

[deadwood813]

@HasegawaMasato 你有看過美國人被他人叫成英國人還很開心的嗎?我不苟同那些罵地­震死去的人，但別混合一談，我有自己的國家只是還沒被承認 

荷蘭為獨立努力了一百年

[HasegawaMasato]

@deadwood813 我的動機在於指著那些罵受害者的人，而不是放在Chinese這­個稱呼。台灣如今對於Chinese這個詞過於敏感導致在很多方­面有了一些錯誤的思想。有時候一些東西你不必要的去認同，但也不­必去太費心機的去否認，因為當你想把一些事實給否認掉而又辦不到­的時候你會處在一個很極端的狀態，這對你一點好處也沒有。美國人­從來沒有把自己的語言叫做“美文”，相對的台灣人自90年代末做­了那麼多動作結果到頭來搞得比以前更缺少認同感，對於定位更加模­糊，以前還可以說自己是正統，現在搞得兩頭不對岸。希望我的言論­沒有攻擊到別人，我只是想說當一件事情是事實的時候你做再多也沒­用，何必那麼執著？

[loveforever20111]

@HasegawaMasato

不是我在說...罵地震死去的人 他們是錯 可是又跟這些何關呢?

我問你 你看過美國人被叫成英國人開心嗎? 台灣是一個國家 中國又是一個國家!

我們有自己的國家卻不被世界認同! 我認為 被叫Chinese是他們 X知

不知道還有 Taiwanese 這個字!

[HasegawaMasato]

@loveforever20111 那些外國人沒有錯，那是因為美國的全稱叫美利堅合眾國，裏面連一­個"英"字都沒有，請問一下台灣是一個國家嗎？不是，中華民國是­一個國家，台灣是中華民國的領土，中華民國是華人的政權，這樣說­符合邏輯嗎？ 無需把我歸類的太快，在下絕對100%支持民主，所以台灣獨不獨­立我沒看法，只不過就算獨立了難道台灣千萬華人就改姓改宗？新年­不拜年，清明不拜山，端午不吃粽子，中秋不吃月餅？也無需太強迫­的把閩南語改叫台語，就連今日美國人說的也還是“英”語。 中國人不是換個國籍就能變的，他在血液裏，思想裏，文化裏。 當然如果你prefer別人叫你Taiwanese，只要你要求­，我很願意這麼做，很多人都會跟我一樣，因為這是你個人的選擇。

[flower8051]

haha...so funny

[dwiscome]

太能搞了，闷锅的人都很有才的说。

[louiszuijiaairen]

You are not treat as a independent country in 178 major countries in the world.Although you abused money for supporting your independence with 21 small countries ,and most of them are little island.

Taiwanese language is absolutely the same with Chinese Hokkien which used comprehensive in Fujian and Guangdong province. Although you were forced to change the name after 1949.

The difference between Chinese and Taiwanese language is as big as the difference between your father and you.

[camilkuo]

I see. So you mean if there's a law which orders 178 people to declar that you're ugly, then you don't have the authority saying you're pretty.

And I see. You mean that if two or more countries share the same official language, then they should be in deep relation. So countries such as Singapore, India, Philippine, US...and much more, they should be family because they share English as their official language.

[camilkuo]

but the question is they don't belong in the same family. So do not use langugage as an example for your opinion.

[abyssph]

you can pursue your way of independence, but the relation of both sides of the straits is out there, historically culturally genetically linguistically and every other aspects, nobody can deny

[camilkuo]

We didn't deny. It's the people on mainland China deny the country they originally belong to which is "Republic of China", and both sides of people share "the same country father"? And "only" "Republic of China" was found by our country father. Now, where's People Republic of China coming from? who's the ironic ones? If people on mainland return to ROC, sure we're very welcome.

[camilkuo]

And I can also repeat what you said as reasons that people on mainland should return to us.

It's NOT the matter of consequence but the problem of who should belong to whom.

[abyssph]

so you mean mainland and taiwan should united as one? WTF, then what were these argues all about?? Who cares which regime is in power, currently neither PRC nor ROC is good, it is the time for both sides of the strait to think about how to make this country better, not fucking fight to each other for some pointless shit.

[camilkuo]

Great! So as your saying, whole human being on the Earth should all forget about the past and be united as one! After all, we're all from Africa in genetic way. (no defence, I wish that actually will come true.)

However, no Chinese will be like you who would call their hated ones such as japanese as family eventhough those japs kill thousands of Chinese during wwII!

[camilkuo]

And no Taiwanese will be like you who would call their hated ones such as Chinese communist as family eventhough those communists pointed missiles to them and threatened their safty and rights for over half century!

So u better stop tring to be fancy, cause most of the people in mainland China or in Taiwan still care about such things that you called "pointless shit!"

[camilkuo]

Also I think the country ROC is good. If you think PRC is not good, that's your problem.

[camilkuo]

Btw, I can't believe u are such a person who would call a bastard as family eventhough it raped your home and family without any apology coming afterwards. No wonder you'd think those invasons of your home and family are "pointless shit," because in your opinion they are nothing else but shit.

[abyssph]

Isn't this too much off-topic? seems you like to stick to what phrase I used rather than to what I mean, which I think is clear enough.

[camilkuo]

Well, what I got from your meaning is "everything is pointless shit besides unity," isn't it?

[abyssph]

I still dont know what is your point, but I suppose you are a "deepbluer" since you talked about ROC a lot and kind of said mainland should return to ROC, which to my understanding is that you think mainland and taiwan should be united and under the name of ROC not PRC, so I think somehow we have something in common. To me, I don't see too much logic to say roc/prc which is more "ironic", because then we got a long long list of every dynasties before roc

[camilkuo]

I can't believe even people outside of tw like to put an id on taiwanese...

Anyway, it's not the problem between roc and list of dynasties before it; it's the same country father that's shared by two countries, and only one of them is created by him. If you don't find logics in there, no wonder I can't find any logic of returning tw to mainland, cause you only treat your needs logically, but not the opposite side.

[camilkuo]

also, people on mainland like to pose topics of race, history, culture..and much more as reasons that tw should return to mainland. If u think those are logic, how come you can't find roc nationality logically?

[abyssph]

mainlanders pose topics of race history etc because they see too much brainless conclusion of taiwanese teenager. like using the word 支那人 as if they were excluded, like calling mainlander 中國XX as if they were not, but at the same time worship great persons like confucius/great emperors/sunyetsen etc

[abyssph]

to the missile issue, currently nobody is demanding for and instant unification, only the deepgreen side is so desperate to break down the one china frame. there also isnt, at least to me, too much logic for the taiwanese yelling that mainland have totally no standpoint to show her oppose to a potential unilateral separation. I am absolutely against any war between mainland and taiwan though.

[camilkuo]

So u think u understand situation in tw and how people here feel against prc, eventhough you've never lived here before, but how can u don't know many cn people disdain their own, especially a shanghaiese would never give out the answer "I'm from china."

If many people on mainland disdain their country, how and what can you persuade tw should return willingly?

If you think willing to unify of tw isn't important at all, then only war can solve your pointless shit.

[abyssph]

and the concept of country and concept of regime/government is different, dont treat them as the same. china is what this land called, no matter in any time of history or under the rule of any political system. to say not likeing the government doesnt mean has to be not likeing the country, every taiwanese say they love taiwan but many of them either hate a-bian or Ma Ying-jeou

[camilkuo]

at this point I totally agree with you. Politic usually plays that kind of trick of connecting itself with race/country pride. Politic in tw does it, and so does politic in mainland. Cn gov connected itself to historical geography of china and of course patriotism. So, people in cn must agree the unification, otherwise he/she will be blamed not being patriotic.

[camilkuo]

However, chinese immigrants live around the world, and a lot of them still adore their ancestors and family tradition; therefore, by having different citizenships and live in different places would make them deny who they are? (not talking about the green side in tw, cause they've suffered under different governances too much and been tired to be part of valueless places of china) or get rid of their past anestors and tradition?

[camilkuo]

Also, the territory of every nations is always changing throughout the time. Almost nothing will remain unchanged.

[abyssph]

I never say unity is everything, unity or separation, now is the bad time for either, things should go back to the early 90s in Dengxiaoping and Chiang Ching-kuo's time, in which time both side show their faith of goodwill and sit down to talk, and follow what was agreed at that time, leave the disagree part alone until we are wise enough to find a way to solve it

[camilkuo]

I don't think unify is a must. If both sides of people are doing good and having good lives, why should we chang? Prc is so anxious about independence of tw because cn gov is afraid of chain effect. After only half decade of ruling, it still has hard time keeping its territory together. Such saying that all chinese dragon generation should unify together is just an excuse which cn gov exploits to maintain its political power.

[abyssph]

tw issue is never only between mainland and tw, it's more like a issue between us and china(once again, don't equal it to prc), a tw independence means the first level chain of islands will be completed and another us oversea military base

[camilkuo]

Of course historical china doesn't equalled to prc. You concern about national racial unification; we concern about a country that's really "to the people" which affects people most.

[abyssph]

the pointless thing I mean was no need to argue about who should return to whom, nothing more, so far in all china's history, what the society is like depends mostly in who is the leader, such is also the case in many other asian country's politics, PRC in maozedong and dengxiaoping's time are very different, ROC in sunyatsen or Chiang Kai Shek or a-bian's time are also very very different

[camilkuo]

And I can also tell you those 178 major countries were afraid of military force from PRC, so they chose to agree with PRC. No wonder such people like you would choose to obey like a dog but not to question.

[uken1221]

共狗你他媽大可以不要看!哈~愛看還愛罵!真好笑!

[vicky80124]

別夾帶你的民族優越感跑到人家家裡吠

是吧我的同胞?

[seanstrike]

閒來無事賽羚羊

[hoo320]

We, Taiwanese, are not Chinese. Chinese came from east Africa.

We do not have any genetic relation with Chinese, except a few people came over to our Country in 1949.

We INDEPENDENTLY evolved in our great mother

Taiwanese language is totally different from Chinese. Although we were forced to use Mandrin after 1949.

The difference between Chinese and Taiwanese language is as big as the difference between Chinese and English

[lee3]

Taiwanese aboriginals?

[louiszuijiaairen]

You, Taiwanese, are part of Chinese. We Chinese both as the Dragon came from east of the world.

You have 5000 years genetic relation with Chinese, especially a lot of people came over to Taiwan province after the civil war katabasis in 1949.

[louiszuijiaairen]

You, Taiwanese, are part of Chinese. We Chinese both as the Dragon came from east of the world.

You have 5000 years genetic relation with Chinese, especially a lot of people came over to Taiwan province after the civil war katabasis in 1949.

[vicky80124]

funny joke

this article is a sheer daydream.

[Ginne86]

九孔@his best. LOL.

[diotongtong]

九孔e個look. 好似高比

[awpdoom32]

我沒讀過書..

請問文革發生了什麼事?@@

[ttiiyy]

文革? 有這麼嚴重嗎? 有誰被批鬥死嗎? 有誰被當眾斬首嗎?

[goyour]

賽羚羊勒

[ctj713]

九孔太好笑啦

[unforgivinggg]

cool

[guanglovesex]

趕羚羊

[mliou]

趕羚羊, ﹐哈哈哈哈哈哈...........