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From: DougPagitt
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  • Since I have been reading the bible for myself, and for the first time, I can't find anything about what this man is saying in there....what do you suppose that means?!?

  • This resonates deeply with where i have been on my spiritual journey over the last four years. i have recently left institutional christianity (I.C.), and my post as a "pastor", in order to seek out an expression of church and faith that was more relevant. I feel that I.C. often times calls people to convert to a particular religious culture in order to convert to Christ, which sound to me like the problem the Jerusalem Council was grappling with. First Moses then Christ? Why not just Jesus?

  • Doug, any "Christianity" that fits in the world you live in is emnity with God, because the Bible says in Jamess 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. Yes, Jesus promised that he would never leave us. Do what atmctz says and read the Bible to find God, he has chosen to reveal himself through the scriptures. Throw out your "Message" bible and get a real one.

  • Maybe instead of finding a 'christianity' you can live in, you should try living in Christianity.

    I know some of the forefathers of our faith did some bad things at times, but why throw the baby (doctrine) out with the bath-water (past)?

    What if someone said a hundred years from now, "disregard everything Doug Pagitt said and taught because he was a sinner!"?

    Do you trust the work of the Holy Spirit in the history of the church at all?

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