New ARRI DIGITAL CAMERA SYSTEM unveiled at IBC 2009

[Amandocrespo]

Congrats!.

[geertzand]

is ARRI dutch?

[moochercat]

@geertzand

No, it's German. Arriflex name is from the founders whose last names were Arnold/Richter (combine the AR from Arnold and the RI from Richter).

[Joyvel]

actually the film will not desapeare.

one frame of a film have more information and quality tham a frame of digital camera, the only advantage of digital produccion is the cheapness

[pacosaidso]

Anyone who's been struggling with DOF adapters (before they were even commercially available), can't just stand on the side while some still cam manufacturer rolls out a frikkin FF35 videocam for peanuts. And I agree, 24/25p (PAL here) would be nice, but frame rate is just one aspect of film making. Who knows, it might just come. Canon did change their mind about manual controls.

[pacosaidso]

You're going to rent the 2/3" fixed lens Scarlet? Why? Your ass backwards arguments are retarded. You talk about rentals as if the Red One is in the same price range as the entry level Scarlet or Canons. You are quoting me talking about the Scarlet.

[wondocam]

you`re also right.

i`m certainly not going to rent a 2/3" camera, regardless of the brand, and.... i love my 5d mkII :-)

i was more referring to the 20k$+ cameras, of course

[Jhundiboy]

"Then again, most fanboys just need something to worship. I'm surprised if half of the people preaching RED actually comes up with the $4000 the fixed lens Scarlet costs."

Im sorry, does that mean in order for someone to have an opinion they have to actually OWN the camera in question? Ive been shooting RED for almost 2 years now and have never owned my own system. I would personally rather rent a superior camera, than buying an inferior one just because it is more access....sorry, ...cheaper.

[wondocam]

you`re right.

buying a camera only suits certain business models, on 500+ projects i never felt the urge to own a camera, first of all because i don`t want to get "stuck" to my own equipment when there is new and better toys around, just because my own stuff has`nt payed off yet...

that`s why there are rental houses..

just look at all the weirdos on the red forum having to write the most idiotic shit everyday just to justify that they bought their own camera.. and are now 150$ short on lensmoney

[wondocam]

i think the 29th of september (canon press event) will make all of this even more interesting...

[5Fathom5]

Interesting times ahead no doubt

[pacosaidso]

I gave up waiting for the Scarlet last winter when RED went nuts with all the announcements and instead of delivering raised prices and delayed everything. I can't believe how many people still sitt on their asses waiting for that vaporware, defending RED on the forums as soon as something new comes along. Oh Scarlet this, Scarlet that.. Fuck that. The good stuff is here. FF35 with an army of sharp lenses for next to nothing. All thanks to Canon.

[srg13]

"The good stuff is here. FF35 with an army of sharp lenses for next to nothing. All thanks to Canon. "

Except that the Canons don't even rate near 1080p detail, have low frame rates, has aliasing and skew... OK as an interim cam, but they're not going to hold a candle to even the cheapest Scarlet...

You can throw words like 'vapourware' around (even Scam was used a lot before RED ONE came out) but it doesn't change the truth that RED will deliver much better cameras than Canon are...

[pacosaidso]

The Canon 1080p detail rates a hell of a lot higher than what a non existent Scarlet does. This is exactly the kind of BS that amazes me. Then again, most fanboys just need something to worship. I'm surprised if half of the people preaching RED actually comes up with the $4000 the fixed lens Scarlet costs.

Most people that actually want to shoot, would've given anything for a 5D/7D ten years ago. Now, it's all about what will come, instead of what is here NOW. Wake up!

[srg13]

Read my post again "It's alright as a interim cam" I said. For now, the canons are alright (as long as you're gentle on the tripod), as are other cameras (I'm shooting EX3 at the moment) but anyone saying that they can compete with Scarlet when its released is just delusional... As for the money - we've budgeted to buy two of them as soon as they're released (and the cash is waiting in a high interest account, so they can take a little time to get it right)...

[pacosaidso]

Scarlet is the late one. Canon is taking Scarlet customers every day. Wouldn't it be fun if Canon added raw video to their DSLRs the same day Scarlet is available.

The 3k for 3k idea was great from RED, but it turned out to be all talk. Now it's god knows how much for the entry level Scarlet.

[SirHaakon]

Wouldn't it have been great if Canon added 24p to the 5D through a firmware update? Woops! You have to go out and buy a brand new camera. Oh, and did we mention that new camera isn't FF and records to a lossy codec? Ouch...

Look, there's no question that it's nice to see Canon enter the game by adding some video features but anyone who has any vested interest in this knows that Scarlet is going to decimate the market. And it's coming sooner than you realize, my friend...

[MilNik47]

To late and to expensive after Red One and coming Scarlet and Epic!

[TommieKoo]

Wow, looks great Arri, a big step in the digital market, stay ahead of everyone else!

Can't wait to get my hands on one!