We're already heading that way except, it will all be here on earth. ON PAPER, the U.S.A. is the most despotic and tyrannical nation in history. Only the calculated restraint of enforcement makes the illusion of freedom appear to exist.
The only cool high tech stuff that will exist will be to oppress the masses. It won't be glamorous or fun. Women will be taught to oppress men at every turn and parents will fear their spawn. Tyranny and cruelty will permeate all things because it is privatized.
@MASTERARTGOD Refuse to pay your property taxes, income taxes, drive without a driver's license, or refuse to be treated like a prisoner before boarding an airliner... and see how government controls you. In America, tyranny is privatized or done by creating conditions that restrict our access to the benefits of modern civilization.
Too many people are looking for cartoon-simple acts of oppression when government is vastly more sophisticated than that.
Quick question: Where did you get the clip of the NX, Andorian, and Vulcan ships flying into the Federation Seal... I've been trying to find it, and don't know what/where it's from?
@Fonjil I find it strange that you claim you made it for this video, when the exact same clip appears in a video posted a year before this one. Take a look at 1:16 in watch?v=80_HKdvNhgA&list
Every one 4 gets about Barkly when he became a Super Genius and made that contraption that took them to the Super Being's . why did thy pic Barockly. Who where thy y didn't th y give them some knowledge of who the Borg where ( They know ) How long hav thy ben. How did thy start? why didn't thy get any new Teck inprovements faster ships with all the goodies and of course weapons to defeat the Borg .Does Q know them Do thy know Q do they get along. y don't thy send d Borg bac or just destory them
I think that is all B.S. IMO every S.T. Fan has Idea's of there own and there are prob alot of good stories that every one has thought of . IMO there has to be a little more supense and chacter info who is this guy where did he come from what does he bring 2 the table ( as in being part of the crew ship ( why or how was the Borg made . And after all this time why doesn't the (Fed) up graded there weapones there almost throwing sticks n stone
No. Though the music is lovely and the imaging excellent, what's reflected here is sadly what we have now on this planet. Star Trek has for me always offered the alternative we should strive to be. We really need THAT better alternative right now. Too bad there isn't a current, fresh new Trek on tv right now while we really need an uplift.
@covekayak There will never be a "fresh" new television version of Trek as long as Paramount keeps Berman and Braga onboard. It would be the same crap we got with Voyager and Enterprise. I'd like to see what J. Michael Strazinski could do with a Trek series. A Trek with good character development, good story writing, story arcs that last longer than a season or less and that still represents what Trek was meant to be would be awesome.
Totally agree with your comment regarding Berman and Braga. Never felt like they really "got" Trek. Good character development, good story writing... yes, and also that underpinning Trek optimism. Optimism especially seems lacking in the B and B approach.
@covekayak I don't know, the whole journey home thing in Voyager had the Trek optimism as the Starfleet and Maquis crews worked together to overcome the obstacles faced in the Delta quadrant. That said, they did balls up a lot of good story arcs. Maybe they missed the point of the complaints about DS9 and thought that people didn't want continued plotlines?
@Fbueller129 Trek with character development, good writing, continuity / story arcs - Wow ! What a concept. 1 nitpick I had about Voyager, specifically, was that the ship looked as fresh as the day they left in pursuit of the Maquis from DS9. There's a lack of continuity right there. There was also minimal conflict, nothing that couldn't be solved in 35 to 40 mins an episode, unlike B5 & revised BSG.
@SoraTheHappyEmo Your right, lets ignore cellphones and GE's portable ultrasound scanner, aluminum oxynitride (transparent aluminum), GPS, language translators, and the experimental directed energy weapons the military has... all that aside I was talking about being less huggy kissy and more nitty gritty.... maybe not professional like a military ship but certainly more serious. (Incidentally I don't exactly care for enterprise myself.)
I'm talking ignoring the laws of physics, thermodynamics and generally spitting in the face of science in general. What you're talking about is the cultural impact of Star Trek, which is something different than the series' constant disobedience of real-world science and pseduo-science words like "subspace", which means nothing in real life.
How about the stupendously stupid plots? The borg control HOW many systems and send /one/ ship to the Alpha quadrant?
How about in Star Trek: Nemesis when the Remans board the Enterprise E? Why didn't Riker shout "Computer! Increase lights by 100%!" and blind them all? Why didn't Data beam a bomb into the Scimitar's thaleron matrix if he knew where it was? Or how about in Enterprise, where the Borg show up despite TNG outright STATING that The Borg had /never/ been encountered (and this was a MAJOR point in the first borg episode - Q was very stressing of that).
How about the Federation's technology? If Star Trek is so advanced, how come half the episodes rely on the ship's technology failing to work due to environmental interference?
"Captain, the ionization of the (insert location here) is blocking our (sensors/weapons/transporters/tractor beams/coffee pots)."
Don't get me wrong - I love Star Trek to pieces. But is it realistic at all? Well... here's a line from Insurrection.
Both Ent and ST:N where crap. I wanted them to be good. Ent improved the last season by bringing Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens, writers of some great Trek novels and behind "Gargoyles" which along with "Batman: The Animated Series" redefined "kids" animation in the U.S into something for adults to enjoy. Unfortunately daytime animation has disintegrated into mindless crap. save for "The Clone Wars" (which still could be a lot better) I hate Anasoka. 1000x more annoying then Jar Jar.
Oh I agree with you there. Star Trek's original six motion pictures fluctuated in quality, but 2 and 6 nailed the claustrophobic, almost submarine like quality of a warship and damnit there were no civillians onboard either.
@SoraTheHappyEmo As with all stories it has holes I'll admit, whenever I watch star trek I always look more to the gadgets then the actual characters/story. I guess I like the more Naval approach when it comes to star ship shows. Combine Trek with Battlestar Dramatica subtract the intense drama and you land somewhere in the middle where it can be realistic and futuristic at the same time. But also, you have to admit that we don't know whats out there so we don't know whats realistic, yet.
Of course but when doing analysis, you use what knowledge is available and try to translate whatever the show is demonstrating into what we know now. With Star Trek this leads to less-than stellar results.
I've heard wonders about BSG. Is it really that good?
@SoraTheHappyEmo Yes actually, intense character drama and plot. Mostly realistic, real space physics except for sound. XD Fair warning though the end is hit or miss with some people.
@SoraTheHappyEmo If you want "Cylons" that look like supemodels giving Baltar blow-jobs then you'd love it. Not for me. Check out the Foundation Imaging trailer for Singer/DeSanto's BSG to see what a bad-ass Cylon would be. I watch Space-Opera for action and epic confrontations. Luke Vs. Vader, Kirk vs. Khan. Adama (Lorne Greene) Vs. Baltar (John Calicos). Commander Cain (the one with a penis who picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue) Vs. The Entire Cylon Empire.
Very nice. The Voyager clips were particularly well chosen, I remember the first time seeing "Living Witness" and thinking it was the mirror universe.
@xderDoktor It wouldn't work. It'd be like having a TV series based on Q. Sure it's good for an episode or two here and there, but a whole series based on it would make the subject get old very quickly.
At first I thought this video was going to be boringly done... but it was the twist that was really awesome and it was well designed to fit the music. Probably one of the more creative uses of BSG music I've seen. Extra kudos for balancing the each series against each other, too! Great video!
finally a video to let them ol confused star trek fans of Star Trek Enterprise know it was just another alternative timeline created due to the events in First Contect made the guy that invented warp create the nx-01 on accident rather than the Constitution class!!!
Is the "mirror universe" not the real universe?
AgentPepsi1 1 month ago
I'd pay to see this
Itookthelaw 1 month ago
Its all fun and games until a Vulcan gets a shotgun blast to the chest.
Hammertimecool 2 months ago 2
WHy wouldn't you say "A Voyage Home" for Voyager?
imladen 4 months ago
DON'T RAPE GALACTICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jvillavic 4 months ago
Vote Democrat for a peaceful future.
VigilanteJustin 5 months ago
We're already heading that way except, it will all be here on earth. ON PAPER, the U.S.A. is the most despotic and tyrannical nation in history. Only the calculated restraint of enforcement makes the illusion of freedom appear to exist.
The only cool high tech stuff that will exist will be to oppress the masses. It won't be glamorous or fun. Women will be taught to oppress men at every turn and parents will fear their spawn. Tyranny and cruelty will permeate all things because it is privatized.
InfiniteMushroom 6 months ago
@InfiniteMushroom LMAO this is funny. The Government cant control people unless they let them.
MASTERARTGOD 1 month ago
@MASTERARTGOD Refuse to pay your property taxes, income taxes, drive without a driver's license, or refuse to be treated like a prisoner before boarding an airliner... and see how government controls you. In America, tyranny is privatized or done by creating conditions that restrict our access to the benefits of modern civilization.
Too many people are looking for cartoon-simple acts of oppression when government is vastly more sophisticated than that.
InfiniteMushroom 1 month ago
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Colonel1181 11 months ago
Quick question: Where did you get the clip of the NX, Andorian, and Vulcan ships flying into the Federation Seal... I've been trying to find it, and don't know what/where it's from?
EmergencyMedHologram 1 year ago
@EmergencyMedHologram It was something I created for this vid. I took the clip of the ships and faded it into the seal.
Fonjil 1 year ago
@Fonjil Thats awesome!
VerterosGaming 1 year ago
@Fonjil Are you sure you created it?
MrSatireTube 4 months ago
@Fonjil I find it strange that you claim you made it for this video, when the exact same clip appears in a video posted a year before this one. Take a look at 1:16 in watch?v=80_HKdvNhgA&list
baalthegreat 3 months ago
@Fonjil fucking nice man
msa1985 1 week ago
@EmergencyMedHologram the clip is from the 40 anniversairy tribute of startrek...
morrisz2 6 months ago
Every one 4 gets about Barkly when he became a Super Genius and made that contraption that took them to the Super Being's . why did thy pic Barockly. Who where thy y didn't th y give them some knowledge of who the Borg where ( They know ) How long hav thy ben. How did thy start? why didn't thy get any new Teck inprovements faster ships with all the goodies and of course weapons to defeat the Borg .Does Q know them Do thy know Q do they get along. y don't thy send d Borg bac or just destory them
HarPlayer 1 year ago
I think that is all B.S. IMO every S.T. Fan has Idea's of there own and there are prob alot of good stories that every one has thought of . IMO there has to be a little more supense and chacter info who is this guy where did he come from what does he bring 2 the table ( as in being part of the crew ship ( why or how was the Borg made . And after all this time why doesn't the (Fed) up graded there weapones there almost throwing sticks n stone
HarPlayer 1 year ago
No. Though the music is lovely and the imaging excellent, what's reflected here is sadly what we have now on this planet. Star Trek has for me always offered the alternative we should strive to be. We really need THAT better alternative right now. Too bad there isn't a current, fresh new Trek on tv right now while we really need an uplift.
covekayak 1 year ago
@covekayak There will never be a "fresh" new television version of Trek as long as Paramount keeps Berman and Braga onboard. It would be the same crap we got with Voyager and Enterprise. I'd like to see what J. Michael Strazinski could do with a Trek series. A Trek with good character development, good story writing, story arcs that last longer than a season or less and that still represents what Trek was meant to be would be awesome.
Fbueller129 1 year ago
@Fbueller129
Totally agree with your comment regarding Berman and Braga. Never felt like they really "got" Trek. Good character development, good story writing... yes, and also that underpinning Trek optimism. Optimism especially seems lacking in the B and B approach.
covekayak 1 year ago
@covekayak I don't know, the whole journey home thing in Voyager had the Trek optimism as the Starfleet and Maquis crews worked together to overcome the obstacles faced in the Delta quadrant. That said, they did balls up a lot of good story arcs. Maybe they missed the point of the complaints about DS9 and thought that people didn't want continued plotlines?
randomface54 4 months ago
@Fbueller129 Trek with character development, good writing, continuity / story arcs - Wow ! What a concept. 1 nitpick I had about Voyager, specifically, was that the ship looked as fresh as the day they left in pursuit of the Maquis from DS9. There's a lack of continuity right there. There was also minimal conflict, nothing that couldn't be solved in 35 to 40 mins an episode, unlike B5 & revised BSG.
knoxvilleguy2 1 year ago
@WhiteSerpentz not enough pylons...
JWA8402 1 year ago
Why does it have the Battlestar Galactica theme song?
guinification 1 year ago
Oh yes, because stupid vapid ignorant and retarded characters like Captain Archer and his ilk are exactly what Trek fans are begging for.
Sajun777 1 year ago
What's with the Battlestar Galactica theme?
IDCFFSGTFO 1 year ago
What's sad, is we actually do live in the alternate universe.
eyeofbast 1 year ago
@eyeofbast
Haha, true
Kunibuler 1 year ago
@eyeofbast don't be that sad... the human adventure didn't even began
StelarCF 1 year ago
The "what if" series does exist in book form. Look up "Star Trek: Myriad Universes"
TazG2000 1 year ago
Wow! Very cool!
forfrackssake 1 year ago
WIN. Pure frakkin win.
kidd2k1 1 year ago
That was great.
Xakana 1 year ago
That was one of the coolest things that I've seen posted!!! VERY WELL DONE!! The vidoe and the music were pefectly done!! 5 STARS!!!
teletran1a 1 year ago
Take a vote, who wants a series based in the alternate universe.
renardthatch 1 year ago 108
@renardthatch I do.
Picard578 1 year ago
@renardthatch
The Alternate Universe barely made for an interesting Enterprise story arc.
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo. Meh, I think its more realistic then the lets all get along prime universe.
renardthatch 1 year ago
@renardthatch
Let's not get started on Realism and Star Trek.
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo Your right, lets ignore cellphones and GE's portable ultrasound scanner, aluminum oxynitride (transparent aluminum), GPS, language translators, and the experimental directed energy weapons the military has... all that aside I was talking about being less huggy kissy and more nitty gritty.... maybe not professional like a military ship but certainly more serious. (Incidentally I don't exactly care for enterprise myself.)
renardthatch 1 year ago
@renardthatch
I'm talking ignoring the laws of physics, thermodynamics and generally spitting in the face of science in general. What you're talking about is the cultural impact of Star Trek, which is something different than the series' constant disobedience of real-world science and pseduo-science words like "subspace", which means nothing in real life.
How about the stupendously stupid plots? The borg control HOW many systems and send /one/ ship to the Alpha quadrant?
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo
How about in Star Trek: Nemesis when the Remans board the Enterprise E? Why didn't Riker shout "Computer! Increase lights by 100%!" and blind them all? Why didn't Data beam a bomb into the Scimitar's thaleron matrix if he knew where it was? Or how about in Enterprise, where the Borg show up despite TNG outright STATING that The Borg had /never/ been encountered (and this was a MAJOR point in the first borg episode - Q was very stressing of that).
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo
How about the Federation's technology? If Star Trek is so advanced, how come half the episodes rely on the ship's technology failing to work due to environmental interference?
"Captain, the ionization of the (insert location here) is blocking our (sensors/weapons/transporters/tractor beams/coffee pots)."
Don't get me wrong - I love Star Trek to pieces. But is it realistic at all? Well... here's a line from Insurrection.
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo
Child to data: If you don't sleep, how do you stay awake?
Data: My power cells recharge themselves continuously.
YES FOLKS, APPARENTLY IN THE 24TH CENTURY, THEY HAVE FOUND PERPETUAL ENERGY.
YET REFUSE TO USE IT IN ANYTHING BUT A TIN MAN.
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
Both Ent and ST:N where crap. I wanted them to be good. Ent improved the last season by bringing Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens, writers of some great Trek novels and behind "Gargoyles" which along with "Batman: The Animated Series" redefined "kids" animation in the U.S into something for adults to enjoy. Unfortunately daytime animation has disintegrated into mindless crap. save for "The Clone Wars" (which still could be a lot better) I hate Anasoka. 1000x more annoying then Jar Jar.
JMYodaTHX 1 year ago
@renardthatch
Oh I agree with you there. Star Trek's original six motion pictures fluctuated in quality, but 2 and 6 nailed the claustrophobic, almost submarine like quality of a warship and damnit there were no civillians onboard either.
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo As with all stories it has holes I'll admit, whenever I watch star trek I always look more to the gadgets then the actual characters/story. I guess I like the more Naval approach when it comes to star ship shows. Combine Trek with Battlestar Dramatica subtract the intense drama and you land somewhere in the middle where it can be realistic and futuristic at the same time. But also, you have to admit that we don't know whats out there so we don't know whats realistic, yet.
renardthatch 1 year ago
@renardthatch
Of course but when doing analysis, you use what knowledge is available and try to translate whatever the show is demonstrating into what we know now. With Star Trek this leads to less-than stellar results.
I've heard wonders about BSG. Is it really that good?
SoraTheHappyEmo 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo Yes actually, intense character drama and plot. Mostly realistic, real space physics except for sound. XD Fair warning though the end is hit or miss with some people.
renardthatch 1 year ago
@SoraTheHappyEmo If you want "Cylons" that look like supemodels giving Baltar blow-jobs then you'd love it. Not for me. Check out the Foundation Imaging trailer for Singer/DeSanto's BSG to see what a bad-ass Cylon would be. I watch Space-Opera for action and epic confrontations. Luke Vs. Vader, Kirk vs. Khan. Adama (Lorne Greene) Vs. Baltar (John Calicos). Commander Cain (the one with a penis who picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue) Vs. The Entire Cylon Empire.
JMYodaTHX 1 year ago
Oh and Picard Vs The Borg. Drop the ball there...
JMYodaTHX 1 year ago
@renardthatch no i have enough of it in reality
thanatan86 1 year ago
@renardthatch which of the billions of star trek alternate universes? =D
msa1985 1 year ago
@renardthatch As long as Brannon Braga and Rick Berman stay the hell away!
killergoatie 10 months ago
@renardthatch i think the alternate universe the person killed the vuclan the humans raids the ship in first contact
epicxbuilder 5 months ago
@renardthatch or settled in the 29th century
sothothel 3 months ago
Yeah at first i thought this was going to be another boring intro with another series' theme... but that second part was pretty good!
emenentia 1 year ago
Very nice. The Voyager clips were particularly well chosen, I remember the first time seeing "Living Witness" and thinking it was the mirror universe.
LordRichardRahl 2 years ago 3
@LordRichardRahl I already knew it was only an historic false, but I thought immediatly "It looks like the mirror universe!"
ilania95 1 year ago
I love all the mirror universe episodes. They should make a whole series based in the mirror universe. It would be epic.
xderDoktor 2 years ago 3
@xderDoktor It wouldn't work. It'd be like having a TV series based on Q. Sure it's good for an episode or two here and there, but a whole series based on it would make the subject get old very quickly.
tetetoupee 2 years ago
Brilliant! The best use of the BSG theme in a crossover video ever.
FrakkinToasterLuvva 2 years ago 5
Wow, good Video 5*
Thunderchild2604 2 years ago 3
A great synopsis of the 'Dark Mirror' Universe!
ucdconnectq 2 years ago 3
Nicely put together with the what if
Zcontinuum 2 years ago 2
All hail the mighty Terran Empire.
Bebbe88 3 years ago 59
HAIL THE EMPERROR !
DeadSmile187 3 years ago 4
@Bebbe88 May it never fall.
pytko3 1 year ago
@Bebbe88 All hail Empress Sato :3
AeronPeryton 1 year ago
hahaha. the Terran Empire. thats awesome.
NydusSageRyade 3 years ago
At first I thought this video was going to be boringly done... but it was the twist that was really awesome and it was well designed to fit the music. Probably one of the more creative uses of BSG music I've seen. Extra kudos for balancing the each series against each other, too! Great video!
experimentego 3 years ago
Where'd it go?
cjdaweasel 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
finally a video to let them ol confused star trek fans of Star Trek Enterprise know it was just another alternative timeline created due to the events in First Contect made the guy that invented warp create the nx-01 on accident rather than the Constitution class!!!
Charmingwizkidclone 3 years ago
not instead ...it predates the constitution by like a hundred years... and no, its canon whether you like it or not
SPARTAN12222 3 years ago 4
Really good 5/5
RhikuVelvet 3 years ago
And you like Sci-Fi...marry me
jppdfw 4 years ago