What is so insulting about this kind of book, is that none of the experts (who spend their whole lives chaising the truth) don't give this kind of garbage a second look. What does that say?
Blaming the Jesuits. The Jesuits were just nerds ok! They were just scholars in a time when very few people could go work in an ivory tower. A Jesuit named Gaubil in the 1600s and 1700s in China, learned classical Chinese, taught them math, and translated Chinese texts. This pisses on their achievements.
LOL not at the video, but at all the haters and the dislikes. The information in the video and the book are not 100% perfect, but this is the truth people. Spend some time researching actual history from multiple sources for an hour or so a day instead of watching degenerate LULZ videos or reality TV. You'll come to the same conclusion. JERUSALEM WAS NEVER IN PALESTINE, PALESTINE IS NOT THE HOLY LAND. That Jerusalem is an old place named after an even older and larger one. The Trojan war (cont.)
@zelonzelon (.cont) is important. The re-curring patterns. Nordic/Greek gods. Jesus being Apollonius of Rhodes. There is nothing Middle Eastern about Christianity, it's entire history is from what we call Turkey today. You can't argue with that, and that's for a reason. History was destroyed during the dark ages thanks to Constantine and the Khazars (Caesars). Byzantine empire was NOT Rome. Now they live in "Israel" and say they're Jews and re-write history there except we can call their lies.
@zelonzelon where do I begin? 1. you don't like how history happened. 2. you wish women did more. 3. you wish christianity did less. 4. you wish africa did more. 5. you wish russia didn't borrow from earlier states 5. you wish india wrote more instead of being written about 6. you wish jesus was egyptian 7. you wish there were lost civilizations in the jungle of africa. 8. you wish british, french, and germans didn't dig up and translate cuneiform using the Bible as a map.got it
Sounds absurd? Not if you've read History: Science or Fiction...... because if you have read that book, you're a fucking sack of dog shit, with maggots for brains.
@giorgiv18 I love doing that. I read the (countless) 1 star reviews of Black Athena and took joy in it.
I wonder if someday I'm going to try to publish some revisionist horseshit, myself. My book would be called:
Augusta Empress of Rome and Oprah, the black lesbian power behind the Throne, and how the Jesuits stole the Tribal Wisdom of India and blamed the women for it, because geek whitey is a coward.
What a f*cking idiot! You can tell a 'theory' has problems when they can't find anyone to narrate the ad and have to rely on a computer to narrate for them. I'll be sure to remember to go to a biologist the next time I need help with my taxes.
What about the Parthenon? The Colosseum? Were these built by renascentists? And what about the Byzantine Empire, that was called Empire of the Greeks by the EUROPEANS, but it was called Roman Empire elsewhere in the world but it hadn't Rome in its domains? This is a RIDICULOUS ABSURD!
What "latest research conducted" and who the flying hell conducted this "latest research conducted"??? I think somebody has had a serious psychotic break with reality.
what i find remarkable is that the Muslims refer to Jesus Christ saying he survived the crucifixion and fled east.
It is odd because: one, the Qu'ran refer to Christians and Jesus Christ (people of the book). Second, the Qu'ran was written in 632. SO how can Jesus be born before after Prophet Mohammad?
I'm not gona lecture on youtube, if you want answers to your question in the context of the revised chronology I suggest that you educate yourself. Anyone discussing a complex subject like this one (SCALIGERIAN BASED CHRONOLOGY ON UNDATED MATERIAL, ACCEPTED BLINDLY BY THE WORLD WITH NO EVIDENCE, EXCEPT "CHURCH TRADITION") & not read or seen the evidence has no room writing or making fun, ppl look like a bunch of morons acting like they know better when in reality they don't know shit.
Your answers are all answered in detail by these works (Fomenko & co.) & others who are at the forefront of the new revised more accurate realistic chronology. These works are more important than Einstein, the whole world has suffered from mass delusion & fantasies from ancient authorities dealing with a highly uneducated public. This work is very complex Fomenko has untied thousands of knots, future generations will appreciate this work & look at the heckling public as fools.
If you're truly a student of history then invest in yourself & put these things to the test, youtube isn't the place for any real discussions, especially with limited writing space. I'm done writing here, I know it's hard for ppl to see beyond what they know, especially if they paid for it, or grew up on these perpetuated lies & fantasies on every level: movies, T.V. churches, colleges etc. a long time of deep rooted programming.
Who are you to judge anybody? You think what you know is so sure? I am very educated in history over 24 years experience, Go fuck yourself & your bullshit, You need to keep your fake history bcus of your identity & where you live, you do have a political agenda & benefit, without it your identity & country crumbles! LOL! You have to live a historical lie no matter what the truth is LOL!
You start with lies about TIME,CHRONOLOGY....then you comfuse people ...with events that happened or might of happened .
After making a mixture of lies that you apear as reall you separate this events and you rebuilt them in the manner that serves your purpose.
The problem here is that you are so wrong in everything that you are saying ...that it is obvIous that you are... ON PURPOSE DOING THIS and messing up with peoples minds.
Yes it's coming to the surface, these books & others will saturate society, they are forever here, doesn't matter if you are ignorant, the future & others that are not as brainwashed will view these & elaborate on them FURTHER .
Chronology was a subdivision of mathematics, even Isaac Newton challenged & wanted to rewrite chronology & that Scaligerian chronology (the one ppl use today) was a sham.
What that subject means is the timeline of events from a bunch of UNDATED documents (not timekeeping as in watches, clocks, days minutes). Modern chronology was created by Scaliger who did everything by biblical & church standards & opinions based on no evidence or dated texts of any sort. All other sciences over the years simply went along with it not checking things assuming they're correct. The subject can become very complicated & cumbersome
I've seen events in the last 10 years be reinvented & mistold let alone somethings that supposedly happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. History even in the last 100 years isn't accurately portrayed, is bias & somethings lost let alone ancient history. He is a historian, just bcus his main field is mathematics he started revising chronology from 1973, that does make him an expert after 36 years on the subject.
well i agree that i must have been hard to transcribe things backward (from normal chronology to the BC - AD), but we can check our sources from either muslim, chinese or jewish (because they did not really have BC, chronology for them is the continuity of "BC")
Jerusalem simply means "city of peace" that term has been used by some for Constantinople & other places, names of cities, towns & countries that we use today ARE NOT WHAT ppl called them in the past. Names were not fixed like now. The village I'm born in the Romanians call Petrovasila, the Serbians call it Vladimirovac both are correct, if 2 ppl wrote about it using each name some wud assume they were 2 different locations but in reality they're 1 place. That HAS happened in Chronology.
I agree ludovici83, Fomenko is a little biased towards his motherland, yet the questions he raises are too serious to ignore. The ignoramuses on here would do well to acquaint themselves with this work of his before shooting their mouths off. It is plainly obvious that 95% of people that have critized Fomenko have not even read his book, yet their motivations are well known. They criticize because he has the hide to assemble history in a different order than what has generally been accepted.
These books are not conspiracy theories like the commercial sense of 9/11, DaVinci code etc. It points to a small window within European Christian history where forgeries & creative things were well known by religiously based motivations & authors, anybody who doesn't think the Christian church had an agenda needs to wake up. Also wealthy families wanted histories & commissioned it, our entire educational base when it comes to ancient history has been affected by this. It's that simple.
Homer lived around 850 BC. The Crusades began in 1095 AD. It's amazing that Homer could right about Crusades that took place almost 2000 years after he died, dumbass.
Or do you think the evil historians moved him back in time those 2000 years and got all the world's archaeologists on board to cover themselves up? Oh wait, you do believe that shit.
Homer was blind how did he see or write anything down? He didn't the first written account was by Pisastrus 670 years AFTER the Trojan war (Scaligerian chronology). Homer memorized about 700 pages of poems (history) & chanted em to his audience, without mistake! Then he died & his listeners memorized & they did the same until 670 years later when Pisastrus codified em. I would like to see someone do that. When was the last time someone memorized 100 pages of something let alone 700? Verbatim
The Scaligerian chronolgy states the Trojan War was 1225b.c. The concise Columbia Encyclopedia states that the poems were "written by the poet for the aristocratic public in Asia minor before 775b.c........Homer had lived in an epoch seperated from that of the Trojan war by several centuries"
So Homer 'recited' about something he heard/learned about events centuries before him, memorized it verbatim & that process (oral tradition) went on flawless til Pisastrus.
you are using a dead argument. you cannot refer to dates because this video pretends that they are false, hence you saying the crusades happened 2000 years after homer is irrelevant because they occurred they are the same and your chronology is "false" (according to the author)
Well unfortunately beyond that all I can say is that they are crazy and full of shit.
I mean I don't even know how to argue this when people pretend EVERYTHING we know is false...except what they "know" because some other crazy guy told them.
I mean he repeatedly calls "Peisistratos" "Pisastrus" when that isn't even a real person or an accepted spelling of it.
Yeah it's more intelligent & sane to believe works put together & dated in conjunction with religious authorities & religious agenda from works that ARE NO EARLIER THAN XI.
I also suggest you read 'The Baltic Origin's of the Homeric Tales' by Felice Vinci, who gives better locations that actually match the stories on many levels. But he's crazy too? Only people that don't read books somehow have the ability to challenge evidence & arguments they haven't seen are smart.
No I am in the Light & all it's glory. You & all who perpetuate unverified lies are the darkness, not living in the darkness, BUT ARE THE DARKNESS CASTING ON OTHERS.
Anybody who would argue a spelling but knew what the person meant is a moron. They don't know where to poke. Anybody who would judge something from an advertisement (this video) is truly a moron. The dates given were used bcus you don't know the new chronology so everything needs to be discussed within the context & language of what is common. If you know anything about ancient words & languages spellings are not fixed & regional. The idiocy on this page is boring. I'm done here.
670 after the WAR not Homer. Do you even know how to read? LOL!!! These books require at least mediocre reading ability, they maybe out of you league.
Ya later from the war duh? what about the beginning of the post: " Homer was blind how did he see or write anything down? He didn't the first written account was by Pisastrus 670 years AFTER the Trojan war (Scaligerian chronology)" How about the whole quote then you fucking anal moron it explains itself, sorry for my bad grammer bcus this youtube 'dissertation' is judged by idiots. I don't base my views from videos I read the Fomenko books & others on this subject. Get a life & an education.
I can't even believe you're nitpicking at ridiculous shit? I've been commenting on your ignorant post about books YOU HAVE NOT READ. You assume you're right by shear arrogance, with no basis in reality or experience of the depths of this specific subject. Are you really that arrogant, who goes around talking about books they never read? By Ph.D's. unfucking believable...LOL! You disqualify yourself from intelligence by that alone.
How about we discuss a band or a CD you never heard? I'm sure your views of that would be worth anything right? What other subjects that you don't know anything about can we discuss? I'm just amused by how arrogant & stupid you & others are here & kept this going.
What I've done hear today is surface skimmed these waters, hoping you all can see your reflection. Bcus no serious discussions of the deeper realistic elements of these books can be discussed, bcus every person here I've interacted with is COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF THE BOOKS, AS WELL AS THE SUBJECT AS A WHOLE. So overall it's a waste of time. But you ppl have showed me how ridiculous & confident ignorance can be. Thank you for that.
Fomenko's history REVISIONISM is considered pseudoscience by his Russian peers.
He isn't a historian, he's a mathematician. That gives him zero credibility in this field. And as I said, even his peers consider his revisions to be nothing but pseudoscience.
Fun fact: he even disputes radiocarbon dating even though it's objective
Do I have to read a book by a guy with a doctorate in theology if it's about quantum physics? No.
He wrote a book and you believed it because you're a gullible moron.
they had scribes back then and the oral tradition was strong. sure the guy may be blind but when you hear "oh the muses...." 25 million times, you pick it up and memorize it. Then you ask your scribe to write everything down.
humans are capable of memorizing 700 pages, they just don't care enough to do it.
There are 3 old paintings depicting the Trojan war as medieval with knights in armour: 1. "King Priam meets his son Paris at the gates of Troy" from the Chronique de la Bouquechardiere by Jean de Coucy, dated to 1470.
2. Le Roman de la guerre de Troie by Benoit de Sainte-Maure, dated to XIV century.
3. "The Trojan Army Riding Into Battle" from the Russian Litsevoy Svod almanac, State Museum of History, collection No 358. No common movie clothes, that's how ppl closer to the time viewed it.
i think that school can teach false history just because the teachers will never know the real version of what happened before they was borned... our work and monetary system gaved us our blindness.
its possible that some aspects of the history can be just a lie...
Dang, this be some nutty stuff. So many silly statements I don't know where to begin. Garg, it boggles the mind. More boggling is that a significant number of people buy into this sort of absurdity.
I'm making fun of it but I do believe it is possible that history didn't entirely went as we think. But this is a little bit too drastic for me. Very sensational though.
In the Fomenko books he shows that Greece is not really Greece as we come to think of it, in fact he shows the pictures of the original 'ancient' structures & the foundation beneath, buildings were torn down that were Ottoman erected & what was left to be original Grecian arcitecture, when you look underneath the foundations it was from the same modern builders. His books are closer to the truth than what academia has been teaching. Everything we know of history is B.S. & he proves it.
its a proven fact that the roman empire converted to christianity relatively shortly after the death of jesus under emporer Constantine ..if jesus was crucified in 1086 AD how the hell was an entire empire following a relegion hundreds of years before it even existed?.
The bread & wine Dionysus Dion/Adon/Adoni=God Ysus/Isus=Jesus 'cross' cult was inplace in Europe & Eurasia for a very long time, The European mystery religion never changed, we now call it Christianity. There is alot of b.s. when it comes to western history, I read Fomenkos books, he is correct & one of the few that can accurately communicate this incredibly complext task that has polluted academia & all modern understanding.
I want to add also that I do not totally agree with Fomenko´s ideas...I don´t buy everything he says. His work is a little biased in my opinion....he tends to overestimate the role of Russia (his motherland) in world history, but his criticism of the current dating methods and his remark about how all ancient Greek and Latin masterpieces of literature and science were misteriously rediscovered during the Renaissance and the Late Middle Ages seem very logical
I would recommend people who have posted a comment to read the book before. After reading the first two volumes I believe that Dr. Fomenko makes some very reasonable points that have not been answered by mainstream historians. I think Fomenko is a serious researcher and his opinions deserve more respect.
There has to be a directed intention behind this book. I don't have the time, and even the stupidity to even pay attention to the retard that speaks. Smells like Jehova witnesses to me...or SIMILAR ;)
GREEKS, FOMENKO COMPLETELY NUTS WITH HIS NEW CHRONOLOGY.
THIS STUPID BOOKS EXSACTLY WILL GOOD FOR TURKS STUPIDZ. THEY BUY THIS SHIT AND LOVE TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR HISTORY LIKE GREEKS AND WHISPERING LIKE FUCKING SNAKES WITHOUT POISONING TEETH ON GREEKS. TO BE GREEK ITS MEAN TO BE ORTHODOXAL AND SMART vs. TO BE TURK IT'S MEAN TO BE MONOGLO PAGAN & STUPID
Chronology was a subdivision of Mathematics in the xvi-xvii century. Author`s objective is to return Chronology to the fold of applied mathematics. He does do not cancel events, artefacts, Pyramids, Great Walls, peoples and persons outright, but suggests to find their true position on the time axis. Google>books>Fomenko 100%v free
So how does this all relate to the history of China, India, Persia, and other eastern civilizations? Are the historical documents in the East false or inaccurate too?
well..Terrific Ghengis et al.`Mongol` nomadic tribes were small, illiterate and scattered before 19th cy, in fact they even did not even know they were touted in Russia and Europe as great conquerors. Russian history as we know it today is a blatant forgery concocted by a host of German scientists brought to Russia by the usurper dynasty of the Romanovs, whose ascension to the throne was the result of conspiracy, charged with the mission of making their reign look legitimate.
I don't know where you get this from, but as a Mongolist and sinologist, I take offense here. The Chinese kept accurate records of the Mongol conquests, as did the Tibetans and the Mongols themselves. Texts in Phags-Pa script, classical Mongol script and Mongol rendered with Chinese characters all exist from the empire period. Mongol history since 1100 is quite well documented. You can tout rubbish if you like, but don't denigrate an entire nation.
Any idea of Jesuit historiography has no effect in Sino-mongolo-tibetan societies, nor in Japanese society. The Mongol tribes, united under Chinggis, attacked to the south, east, west and north. Their campaigns in Europe and Russia were comparatively small - what is in western Russia or Europe for a steppe nomad? - and the best documentation of their campaigns comes from sources which would be un-affected by any theoretical problem with western historiographic traditions.
Do not nit pick certain events, remember, this book gives an entire time line of history, not just when jesus was crucified. The idea of 'Romans' is completely different between you and Fomenko, or your view and reality.
I think all this is proof that all religions are old myths. some are fun to read but they are myths just the same.i wish people would study real things. things that might help mankind. insted of destroying it.
c14 is low precision because of: extreme sensitivity to contamination, unstable level c14 in atmosphere, nuclear tests, calibrated on samples of arbtrary presumed age. accumulated error +/- 1500 years. fails dismally all black box tests.
c14 is low precision because of: extreme sensitivity to contamination, unstable level c14 in atmosphere, nuclear tests, calibrated on samples of arbtrary presumed age. accumulated error +/- 1500 years. fails dismally all black box tests.
S.Sapiens<150.000 yrs old, civilization= (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS datable earlier than the XI century.
As a Roman Historian I find this absolutely laughable. Try some research before a sequel. Half of your images do not line up with the information being displayed. Your tapestries of the "First Crusade" are actually images of the Bayeaux Tapestry, illustrating William the Conquerer's life and story.
...and my favorite part was the automated voice...
Alright. But why were the ancient Romans familiar with the works of Homer(including the Trojan War)? Why are archeologists uncovering Greek and Roman Pottery and statuary alluding to these events? Sorry but this is ridiculous
Now lets not forget that the heavy plow and the horse coller was also invented during the 8th centurys. Quite significant achievments. Meanwhile Charlamange setout from the Frankinsh kingdom and counquers Germany, italy, and Poland. Also he puts an end to the avar raids by destroying their kingdom in the balkans.
too bad. the word conspiracy is not a part the author`s vocabulary: : go to google or to amazon>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge.
So, which Institution for the Mentally Retarded are you at? Troy?- errr i mean Jerusalem- errr Constanople or Istanbul?? oh and when did you make this? 3068 BC??? LOL
So they want us to believe that the old testament came after the new. I'd like to hear an explanation for the prophetic books that pretell Christ's death.
Occam razor cuts: Sapiens sapiens species <=150000 years old, civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS dateble earlier than the XI century.
Homo Sapiens sapiens species is approx. 120000 years old, but civilization (state+army+ideology) goes only as far back as AD 800, scarce information about 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled after the new One, renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS dateble earlier than the XI century.
Scarce information of the 8th and 10th Cs!? HA! Let me see here. 711 Muslim armies invade Spain crushing the visogoths, who are to busy fighting amongst themselves. 718 Muslim army gets its assed wooped by Byzantium with help of Bulgar hordes. 732 Charles Martel destroys a large muslim army at Potiers, becomes king of France. Also in Formenkos russia many of the Volga Barbarbarians convert to islam.
Shang, Zhou, Warring States, Qin, Han, Three Kingdoms, Northern Wei, Sui, Tang. These are words I advise you to look up if you are going to claim that civilisation is only 1200 years old. Look up, in fact, anything to do with Chinese history. I don't think Jesuits had anything to do with Chinese knowledge of history - in fact, I'm 100% positive of that, and when the first Jesuits arrived in China, the Chinese had vastly more to teach them.
Chronology was a subdivision of Mathematics in the xvi-xvii century. Author`s objective is to return Chronology to the fold of applied mathematics. He does do not cancel events, artefacts, Pyramids, Great Walls, peoples and persons outright, but suggests to find their true position on the time axis. Google>books>fomenko
The Chinese chronology is entirely separate and extremely well-documented. It was not invented in the 16th century, but much earlier - much, much earlier. Since the chronology is separate, but verifies the European one, I'd say that both are correct, and that this is a silly hypothesis. Also, it is clearly claimed that some events didn't occur - you state that the Mongols, until the 19th C, were small bands, etc. Since the Mongols evidently did not conquer anyone in the 19th century...
you are suggesting that the Mongol conquests never happened. The combined annals of China, Japan, Mongolia itself, Tibet, the central Asian empires and kingdoms, the Kara Khitai, Burma, the Uyghurs - as well as Russia, Hungary, Georgia, Poland, Armenia, Egypt, Syria, Persia (Islamic chronology - separate from Jesuits too) - all point to there having been a Mongol empire between 1206 and 1400 CE.
..most historical events we know took place in AD 1000-1500. Archaeological, dendrochronological, paleographical and carbon methods of dating of ancient sources and artefacts are both non-exact and contradictory, actually there is not a single piece of firm written evidence or artefact that could be reliably and independently dated earlier than the XI century. Measurement precision is too low for the AD period.
I'm sorry, but this claim is totally false. Carbon dating is accurate based on a +/- scale of between 50-75 years, not quite accounting for your "Christ was born 1000 years after he really was" idea. Sorry, you're just wrong.
bullshit, well i geuss not , not if you want to overlook the universe of proof saporting the fact this is bulshit, one for instance , the relics that were found in troy that were tested using radio carbon dating proving that troy was a city that was destroyed hundreds of years before the first crusade
This is just pathetically stupid. I've studied ancient history for over 20 years, and it's amazing there are still ignorant people who believe such nonsense. Way too many fools have voices in this world.
what's with these angry people? it betrays what they read history books for: their own agenda.
I read that part about the eclipse and the references in the bible and it does make sense. Besides, books like the bible and ancient "history" books that we find in libraries (of course these ancient books have been writen recently and are not real) are so primitive and "general" (never any personal story, always politics, as vague as possible) that anything is possible.
"Never any personal story." I advise you to read any of the Greek historians, or any Chinese dynastic or personal history. The autobiography section of the Chinese dynastic histories is often considered the most interesting part - check out Ouyang Xiu's "Historical Records of the Five Dynasties" (the closest thing to a dynastic history for that period) to see some excellent examples, and of course, Sima Qian's "Records of the Historian". See Xiang Yu's biography in there.
Jesus born in 1053 AD? How can you explain Christians in Rome long before this? Or Christianity taking hold in places like Armenia "700 years" before he was born then?
But, creaturebotman, to say "this is white western bullsh!t is completely outrageous. Just because the media hates the west doesn't mean there is justification, retard. Go hit your head against a wall.
This is truely the most ludicrous "book" i have ever seen. The only thing even remotely close to "proof" of this ludicrous idea of millions of people in on this secret is eclipses.
Perhaps the authour is unfamiliar with teh fact that calendars and time keeping was inaccurate before the invention of the Gregorian calendar.
LMAO Jerusalem=Constantinopole jesus was born in 1053??? So he was a Byzantine?? Who crusified him?? The only logical explanation is that the guy who wrote this has something against the jesuits or whatever? You know of carbon dating?? Look it up man if u want to sell a book write something like LOTR
I have a question... Where The F4^K are all the BLACK people? We ain't even shown in this line of history. What the fu@k is up with that? This is typical White western bullshit! and what about the asians? Chineese history goes back 6,000 years. This is all about History and as the great Richard Prior once said...its all about HIS - STORY !!!
What a load of absolute BOLLOCKS !!! Some people will do anything to sell a book. In actual fact, the Trojan war was part of Hitler's strategy on europe, & the first crusade was my idea, I know cos I was there!!
I once heard of this thing called carbon dating. It's not %100 accurate but I think it's pretty close. It could be that the machines that carbon date things were created by the Jesuits in the 17th Century. If they not only fabricated history, in its entirety, but also made large, complex, and technologically advanced machinery to date "manufactured" ruins to a "mythological" 2nd Century, then I want one of them to teach me how to do that shit!
Wow...this is probably the most ass backwards thing I've eer seen. Jesus was born in 1053? Classical Greek City_states were just Crusader States? Give me a break.
So I suppose all the archeological evidence we have of Classical Greek and Roman architecture, weapons, clothing, armor and hell, even texts were just planted there by nefarious historians looking to exploit history then? To what end?
What is so insulting about this kind of book, is that none of the experts (who spend their whole lives chaising the truth) don't give this kind of garbage a second look. What does that say?
Blaming the Jesuits. The Jesuits were just nerds ok! They were just scholars in a time when very few people could go work in an ivory tower. A Jesuit named Gaubil in the 1600s and 1700s in China, learned classical Chinese, taught them math, and translated Chinese texts. This pisses on their achievements.
Floodlezoot 2 weeks ago
one of the most bizarre theories I'd heard in awhile. it takes all kinds, I'll tell you...
PS: Abraham Lincoln was John F. Kennedy
XSC3 3 weeks ago
LOL not at the video, but at all the haters and the dislikes. The information in the video and the book are not 100% perfect, but this is the truth people. Spend some time researching actual history from multiple sources for an hour or so a day instead of watching degenerate LULZ videos or reality TV. You'll come to the same conclusion. JERUSALEM WAS NEVER IN PALESTINE, PALESTINE IS NOT THE HOLY LAND. That Jerusalem is an old place named after an even older and larger one. The Trojan war (cont.)
zelonzelon 3 weeks ago
@zelonzelon (.cont) is important. The re-curring patterns. Nordic/Greek gods. Jesus being Apollonius of Rhodes. There is nothing Middle Eastern about Christianity, it's entire history is from what we call Turkey today. You can't argue with that, and that's for a reason. History was destroyed during the dark ages thanks to Constantine and the Khazars (Caesars). Byzantine empire was NOT Rome. Now they live in "Israel" and say they're Jews and re-write history there except we can call their lies.
zelonzelon 3 weeks ago
@zelonzelon where do I begin? 1. you don't like how history happened. 2. you wish women did more. 3. you wish christianity did less. 4. you wish africa did more. 5. you wish russia didn't borrow from earlier states 5. you wish india wrote more instead of being written about 6. you wish jesus was egyptian 7. you wish there were lost civilizations in the jungle of africa. 8. you wish british, french, and germans didn't dig up and translate cuneiform using the Bible as a map.got it
Floodlezoot 2 weeks ago
lol...this is too funny...
cheryla67 1 month ago
Hahahah!
katheryncruz24 2 months ago
siguro tama ang video! dili ko sure hehehe
adelle0001 2 months ago
Sounds absurd? Not if you've read History: Science or Fiction...... because if you have read that book, you're a fucking sack of dog shit, with maggots for brains.
Floodlezoot 8 months ago
@Floodlezoot Go to the amazon page and read the one star reviews.
giorgiv18 2 weeks ago
@giorgiv18 I love doing that. I read the (countless) 1 star reviews of Black Athena and took joy in it.
I wonder if someday I'm going to try to publish some revisionist horseshit, myself. My book would be called:
Augusta Empress of Rome and Oprah, the black lesbian power behind the Throne, and how the Jesuits stole the Tribal Wisdom of India and blamed the women for it, because geek whitey is a coward.
Floodlezoot 2 weeks ago
@Floodlezoot I'm looking forward to reading it :)
giorgiv18 2 weeks ago
What a f*cking idiot! You can tell a 'theory' has problems when they can't find anyone to narrate the ad and have to rely on a computer to narrate for them. I'll be sure to remember to go to a biologist the next time I need help with my taxes.
Stubacca01 10 months ago
Homers lliad and odyssey where songs when Greeks had no form of writing
mikehutty22 11 months ago
Lol too funny
mikehutty22 11 months ago
What about the Parthenon? The Colosseum? Were these built by renascentists? And what about the Byzantine Empire, that was called Empire of the Greeks by the EUROPEANS, but it was called Roman Empire elsewhere in the world but it hadn't Rome in its domains? This is a RIDICULOUS ABSURD!
byzantinecaesar 1 year ago
history is written by the victors
elvi84 1 year ago
@elvi84 yeah. thank you for that statement. really settled things down.
Lucastheskatemaster 11 months ago
What "latest research conducted" and who the flying hell conducted this "latest research conducted"??? I think somebody has had a serious psychotic break with reality.
gotch09 1 year ago
what i find remarkable is that the Muslims refer to Jesus Christ saying he survived the crucifixion and fled east.
It is odd because: one, the Qu'ran refer to Christians and Jesus Christ (people of the book). Second, the Qu'ran was written in 632. SO how can Jesus be born before after Prophet Mohammad?
lafther210 2 years ago
I'm not gona lecture on youtube, if you want answers to your question in the context of the revised chronology I suggest that you educate yourself. Anyone discussing a complex subject like this one (SCALIGERIAN BASED CHRONOLOGY ON UNDATED MATERIAL, ACCEPTED BLINDLY BY THE WORLD WITH NO EVIDENCE, EXCEPT "CHURCH TRADITION") & not read or seen the evidence has no room writing or making fun, ppl look like a bunch of morons acting like they know better when in reality they don't know shit.
asherasator 2 years ago
Your answers are all answered in detail by these works (Fomenko & co.) & others who are at the forefront of the new revised more accurate realistic chronology. These works are more important than Einstein, the whole world has suffered from mass delusion & fantasies from ancient authorities dealing with a highly uneducated public. This work is very complex Fomenko has untied thousands of knots, future generations will appreciate this work & look at the heckling public as fools.
asherasator 2 years ago
but i am curious. can you give me an example of a historical knot?
I do not ask this to anger you, it is just that i do not see any knots in history. Can you point one to me (so i can understand)?
lafther210 2 years ago 2
THE PUBLIC IS UNEDUCATED BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC.
You should not be doing this.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
I am a student of history, I am just pointing out some facts. I do not claim I know everything, but I do want to point out some facts.
lafther210 2 years ago
If you're truly a student of history then invest in yourself & put these things to the test, youtube isn't the place for any real discussions, especially with limited writing space. I'm done writing here, I know it's hard for ppl to see beyond what they know, especially if they paid for it, or grew up on these perpetuated lies & fantasies on every level: movies, T.V. churches, colleges etc. a long time of deep rooted programming.
asherasator 2 years ago
Learn history.... you know nothing.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
So trhats what you are doing ...lecturing.
You are on perpose missleading people you morron.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
Who are you to judge anybody? You think what you know is so sure? I am very educated in history over 24 years experience, Go fuck yourself & your bullshit, You need to keep your fake history bcus of your identity & where you live, you do have a political agenda & benefit, without it your identity & country crumbles! LOL! You have to live a historical lie no matter what the truth is LOL!
asherasator 2 years ago
You were educated wooooow.then you were well educated .But may i ask in what?
SURELY NOT IN HISTORY.
My dear friend you know nothing of history.
Remeber this....you will never manage to fool people with your noncence.
YOU WILL NOT BE ALOUD TO DO IT.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
You start with lies about TIME,CHRONOLOGY....then you comfuse people ...with events that happened or might of happened .
After making a mixture of lies that you apear as reall you separate this events and you rebuilt them in the manner that serves your purpose.
The problem here is that you are so wrong in everything that you are saying ...that it is obvIous that you are... ON PURPOSE DOING THIS and messing up with peoples minds.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
You must know that ........ no metter how much you lie ,no metter for how long you do it, the truth always comes on the SURFACE .
anemosellinas 2 years ago
Yes it's coming to the surface, these books & others will saturate society, they are forever here, doesn't matter if you are ignorant, the future & others that are not as brainwashed will view these & elaborate on them FURTHER .
asherasator 2 years ago
Everything that's ever been proven true & progressive was at first laughed at & fought against, this is no different.
asherasator 2 years ago
Everything said in this video...is so fool of noncence.
This guy that apears as an expert...he is not.
HE IS MISSLEADING.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
Have you read the book?
asherasator 2 years ago
No, you're just a moron writing about a book you haven't read.
asherasator 2 years ago
So a history book written by an mathematician. Sounds smart, but he is an amateur, not a true historian.
lafther210 2 years ago
Chronology was a subdivision of mathematics, even Isaac Newton challenged & wanted to rewrite chronology & that Scaligerian chronology (the one ppl use today) was a sham.
asherasator 2 years ago
how do you change chronology? what happened yesterday really happened 2 minutes ago?
what happened this week on monday really happened wednesday because monday is not the first buisness day, wednesday is
lafther210 2 years ago
What that subject means is the timeline of events from a bunch of UNDATED documents (not timekeeping as in watches, clocks, days minutes). Modern chronology was created by Scaliger who did everything by biblical & church standards & opinions based on no evidence or dated texts of any sort. All other sciences over the years simply went along with it not checking things assuming they're correct. The subject can become very complicated & cumbersome
asherasator 2 years ago
I've seen events in the last 10 years be reinvented & mistold let alone somethings that supposedly happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. History even in the last 100 years isn't accurately portrayed, is bias & somethings lost let alone ancient history. He is a historian, just bcus his main field is mathematics he started revising chronology from 1973, that does make him an expert after 36 years on the subject.
asherasator 2 years ago
well i agree that i must have been hard to transcribe things backward (from normal chronology to the BC - AD), but we can check our sources from either muslim, chinese or jewish (because they did not really have BC, chronology for them is the continuity of "BC")
lafther210 2 years ago
God this made me chuckle. I never knew constantinople was jerusalem...
porkycorky2 2 years ago
lol inorite
wompasdub 2 years ago
Jerusalem simply means "city of peace" that term has been used by some for Constantinople & other places, names of cities, towns & countries that we use today ARE NOT WHAT ppl called them in the past. Names were not fixed like now. The village I'm born in the Romanians call Petrovasila, the Serbians call it Vladimirovac both are correct, if 2 ppl wrote about it using each name some wud assume they were 2 different locations but in reality they're 1 place. That HAS happened in Chronology.
asherasator 2 years ago
I agree ludovici83, Fomenko is a little biased towards his motherland, yet the questions he raises are too serious to ignore. The ignoramuses on here would do well to acquaint themselves with this work of his before shooting their mouths off. It is plainly obvious that 95% of people that have critized Fomenko have not even read his book, yet their motivations are well known. They criticize because he has the hide to assemble history in a different order than what has generally been accepted.
TheJM1984 2 years ago
Yes the mainstream "scholars" are so ingrained in the system they will do everything and anything to defend its survival.
joemartino 2 years ago 2
I don't have to read the book of a raving conspiracy theorist to know that it's crazy.
This YouTube video is plenty.
If I wrote a book asserting the center of the universe is really a giant cheese log would you need to read my book to know I'm full of shit?
omegahunterx 2 years ago
These books are not conspiracy theories like the commercial sense of 9/11, DaVinci code etc. It points to a small window within European Christian history where forgeries & creative things were well known by religiously based motivations & authors, anybody who doesn't think the Christian church had an agenda needs to wake up. Also wealthy families wanted histories & commissioned it, our entire educational base when it comes to ancient history has been affected by this. It's that simple.
asherasator 2 years ago
Homer lived around 850 BC. The Crusades began in 1095 AD. It's amazing that Homer could right about Crusades that took place almost 2000 years after he died, dumbass.
Or do you think the evil historians moved him back in time those 2000 years and got all the world's archaeologists on board to cover themselves up? Oh wait, you do believe that shit.
omegahunterx 2 years ago
OMIROS lived at 3000b.c my dear friend.
Symvatic History teaches that he lived at 900 bc......this is completly wrong.
They are doing this so that in this way they will comfuse people and mislead them with BULLPOOF like this.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
Yes, I'm sure that all the world's historians and archaeologists are in a giant conspiracy for no good reason.
And the one to uncover this is some whackjob with a book and a YouTube account.
And "Symvatic History" doesn't even seem to be a real term.
Here's a fact: you are nuts.
omegahunterx 2 years ago
amen that that
lafther210 2 years ago
Homer was blind how did he see or write anything down? He didn't the first written account was by Pisastrus 670 years AFTER the Trojan war (Scaligerian chronology). Homer memorized about 700 pages of poems (history) & chanted em to his audience, without mistake! Then he died & his listeners memorized & they did the same until 670 years later when Pisastrus codified em. I would like to see someone do that. When was the last time someone memorized 100 pages of something let alone 700? Verbatim
asherasator 2 years ago
The Scaligerian chronolgy states the Trojan War was 1225b.c. The concise Columbia Encyclopedia states that the poems were "written by the poet for the aristocratic public in Asia minor before 775b.c........Homer had lived in an epoch seperated from that of the Trojan war by several centuries"
asherasator 2 years ago
So Homer 'recited' about something he heard/learned about events centuries before him, memorized it verbatim & that process (oral tradition) went on flawless til Pisastrus.
asherasator 2 years ago
Here are some facts:
Homer probably wasn't blind, his name has several meanings, "blind" is one of them.
The First Crusade and the Trojan War are not the same fucking thing like this video pretends.
Homer couldn't talk about the First Crusade because it happened 2000 years after he died.
The Trojan War probably wasn't real anyway.
Peisistratos lived 300 years after Homer NOT 670.
Peisistratos wasn't the first to write about the TW. He just standardized the Odyssey and the Iliad.
omegahunterx 2 years ago
you are using a dead argument. you cannot refer to dates because this video pretends that they are false, hence you saying the crusades happened 2000 years after homer is irrelevant because they occurred they are the same and your chronology is "false" (according to the author)
lafther210 2 years ago 2
Well unfortunately beyond that all I can say is that they are crazy and full of shit.
I mean I don't even know how to argue this when people pretend EVERYTHING we know is false...except what they "know" because some other crazy guy told them.
I mean he repeatedly calls "Peisistratos" "Pisastrus" when that isn't even a real person or an accepted spelling of it.
omegahunterx 2 years ago
well i guess we both have to read this book to find out if he was an actual person.
hahaha
lafther210 2 years ago 2
Yeah it's more intelligent & sane to believe works put together & dated in conjunction with religious authorities & religious agenda from works that ARE NO EARLIER THAN XI.
I also suggest you read 'The Baltic Origin's of the Homeric Tales' by Felice Vinci, who gives better locations that actually match the stories on many levels. But he's crazy too? Only people that don't read books somehow have the ability to challenge evidence & arguments they haven't seen are smart.
asherasator 2 years ago
HISTORY.. HISTORY IS WHAT YOU MUST LEARN.
YOU are in total darknes.
anemosellinas 2 years ago
No I am in the Light & all it's glory. You & all who perpetuate unverified lies are the darkness, not living in the darkness, BUT ARE THE DARKNESS CASTING ON OTHERS.
asherasator 2 years ago
Anybody who would argue a spelling but knew what the person meant is a moron. They don't know where to poke. Anybody who would judge something from an advertisement (this video) is truly a moron. The dates given were used bcus you don't know the new chronology so everything needs to be discussed within the context & language of what is common. If you know anything about ancient words & languages spellings are not fixed & regional. The idiocy on this page is boring. I'm done here.
asherasator 2 years ago
670 after the WAR not Homer. Do you even know how to read? LOL!!! These books require at least mediocre reading ability, they maybe out of you league.
asherasator 2 years ago
From YOUR POST:
"Then he died & his listeners memorized & they did the same until 670 years later when Pisastrus codified em."
YOU said that "Pisastrus" [sic] came 670 years after Homer died.
And considering your spelling and grammar I'm not quite sure if you should be attacking anyone's literacy.
And here's a tip to avoid crazy shit filling your head. Just because a YouTube video claims things as facts doesn't mean they are.
omegahunterx 2 years ago
Ya later from the war duh? what about the beginning of the post: " Homer was blind how did he see or write anything down? He didn't the first written account was by Pisastrus 670 years AFTER the Trojan war (Scaligerian chronology)" How about the whole quote then you fucking anal moron it explains itself, sorry for my bad grammer bcus this youtube 'dissertation' is judged by idiots. I don't base my views from videos I read the Fomenko books & others on this subject. Get a life & an education.
asherasator 2 years ago
I can't even believe you're nitpicking at ridiculous shit? I've been commenting on your ignorant post about books YOU HAVE NOT READ. You assume you're right by shear arrogance, with no basis in reality or experience of the depths of this specific subject. Are you really that arrogant, who goes around talking about books they never read? By Ph.D's. unfucking believable...LOL! You disqualify yourself from intelligence by that alone.
asherasator 2 years ago
How about we discuss a band or a CD you never heard? I'm sure your views of that would be worth anything right? What other subjects that you don't know anything about can we discuss? I'm just amused by how arrogant & stupid you & others are here & kept this going.
asherasator 2 years ago
What I've done hear today is surface skimmed these waters, hoping you all can see your reflection. Bcus no serious discussions of the deeper realistic elements of these books can be discussed, bcus every person here I've interacted with is COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF THE BOOKS, AS WELL AS THE SUBJECT AS A WHOLE. So overall it's a waste of time. But you ppl have showed me how ridiculous & confident ignorance can be. Thank you for that.
asherasator 2 years ago
Fomenko's history REVISIONISM is considered pseudoscience by his Russian peers.
He isn't a historian, he's a mathematician. That gives him zero credibility in this field. And as I said, even his peers consider his revisions to be nothing but pseudoscience.
Fun fact: he even disputes radiocarbon dating even though it's objective
Do I have to read a book by a guy with a doctorate in theology if it's about quantum physics? No.
He wrote a book and you believed it because you're a gullible moron.
omegahunterx 2 years ago 2
If I provided the "whole quote" it would suggest you thought Homer lived DURING the Trojan War.
You know why? Because you said that "Pisastrus" [sic] codified the Iliad and Odyssey 670 years AFTER the war AND 670 years AFTER Homer died.
Just because you can't write for shit and can't keep a coherent string of thoughts for 3 sentences doesn't mean I'm the moron.
omegahunterx 2 years ago
they had scribes back then and the oral tradition was strong. sure the guy may be blind but when you hear "oh the muses...." 25 million times, you pick it up and memorize it. Then you ask your scribe to write everything down.
humans are capable of memorizing 700 pages, they just don't care enough to do it.
lafther210 2 years ago
There are 3 old paintings depicting the Trojan war as medieval with knights in armour: 1. "King Priam meets his son Paris at the gates of Troy" from the Chronique de la Bouquechardiere by Jean de Coucy, dated to 1470.
2. Le Roman de la guerre de Troie by Benoit de Sainte-Maure, dated to XIV century.
3. "The Trojan Army Riding Into Battle" from the Russian Litsevoy Svod almanac, State Museum of History, collection No 358. No common movie clothes, that's how ppl closer to the time viewed it.
asherasator 2 years ago
Bullshit
0ldsage 2 years ago 2
The rabbit hole goes even deeper people!!!! Did you know that prior to 1872 Hamburgers ate PEOPLE??
MelvinScout 2 years ago 7
@MelvinScout LOL, so funny and so true.
gotch09 1 year ago
"you think that is AIR you are breathing? HMM"
MelvinScout 2 years ago 6
i think that school can teach false history just because the teachers will never know the real version of what happened before they was borned... our work and monetary system gaved us our blindness.
its possible that some aspects of the history can be just a lie...
dragoo994 2 years ago
Dang, this be some nutty stuff. So many silly statements I don't know where to begin. Garg, it boggles the mind. More boggling is that a significant number of people buy into this sort of absurdity.
macnutz 2 years ago
Wowe .. a book that teaches totally made up stupidity!
(it's almost religious)
PlayT0E 2 years ago 3
Why trust historians to tell you about history when the truth will obviously come from a mathematician?
That's exactly the logic that I use when I ask my dentist to give me a prostate exam.
ggab7768 2 years ago 10
this is beyond fantastic and sensational. Absolutely ridiculous.
87DannyBrown 2 years ago 3
This is a stupid antisemitic video.
gbvegeta 2 years ago
This commercial alone has like 20 holes in it.
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OurGreedIsOurDisasta 2 years ago
I'm making fun of it but I do believe it is possible that history didn't entirely went as we think. But this is a little bit too drastic for me. Very sensational though.
HvonDrachenfels 2 years ago
If Jesus would have been born in the year 1053 wouldn't that make the so called year 1053 the year zero? :-p.
Another rather amusing thing is that the labels include: virgin, cows and torture but not history :-p.
HvonDrachenfels 2 years ago
the arguments presented in this video are almost all refuted by archaeological research. this seems just as ridiculous as creationist beliefs...
jamozvan 3 years ago
sorry, I didnt watch the whole video.
This is such bull.
flamablesteve 3 years ago
This is not possible.
Plato mentions The Iliad in one of his arguments. Plato was from ancient Greece.
flamablesteve 3 years ago
In the Fomenko books he shows that Greece is not really Greece as we come to think of it, in fact he shows the pictures of the original 'ancient' structures & the foundation beneath, buildings were torn down that were Ottoman erected & what was left to be original Grecian arcitecture, when you look underneath the foundations it was from the same modern builders. His books are closer to the truth than what academia has been teaching. Everything we know of history is B.S. & he proves it.
asherasator 3 years ago
You are crazy.
flamablesteve 3 years ago
Sounds like this STORY has a bunch of masons as its authors. wtf!!!
constantina303 4 years ago
Looking to make some money,huh?
Yakshinian 4 years ago
What did that picture of Alexander the Great have to do with either the Trojan War or the Crusades?
rotopope 4 years ago
What about the ruins of Troy found by Heinrich Schliemann?
Royak 4 years ago 2
its a proven fact that the roman empire converted to christianity relatively shortly after the death of jesus under emporer Constantine ..if jesus was crucified in 1086 AD how the hell was an entire empire following a relegion hundreds of years before it even existed?.
EV3000 4 years ago
The bread & wine Dionysus Dion/Adon/Adoni=God Ysus/Isus=Jesus 'cross' cult was inplace in Europe & Eurasia for a very long time, The European mystery religion never changed, we now call it Christianity. There is alot of b.s. when it comes to western history, I read Fomenkos books, he is correct & one of the few that can accurately communicate this incredibly complext task that has polluted academia & all modern understanding.
asherasator 3 years ago
I want to add also that I do not totally agree with Fomenko´s ideas...I don´t buy everything he says. His work is a little biased in my opinion....he tends to overestimate the role of Russia (his motherland) in world history, but his criticism of the current dating methods and his remark about how all ancient Greek and Latin masterpieces of literature and science were misteriously rediscovered during the Renaissance and the Late Middle Ages seem very logical
ludovici83 4 years ago 3
I would recommend people who have posted a comment to read the book before. After reading the first two volumes I believe that Dr. Fomenko makes some very reasonable points that have not been answered by mainstream historians. I think Fomenko is a serious researcher and his opinions deserve more respect.
ludovici83 4 years ago 7
Tabloid history.
im3ngs 4 years ago
There has to be a directed intention behind this book. I don't have the time, and even the stupidity to even pay attention to the retard that speaks. Smells like Jehova witnesses to me...or SIMILAR ;)
demestixas 4 years ago
GREEKS, FOMENKO COMPLETELY NUTS WITH HIS NEW CHRONOLOGY.
THIS STUPID BOOKS EXSACTLY WILL GOOD FOR TURKS STUPIDZ. THEY BUY THIS SHIT AND LOVE TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR HISTORY LIKE GREEKS AND WHISPERING LIKE FUCKING SNAKES WITHOUT POISONING TEETH ON GREEKS. TO BE GREEK ITS MEAN TO BE ORTHODOXAL AND SMART vs. TO BE TURK IT'S MEAN TO BE MONOGLO PAGAN & STUPID
stereoptera 4 years ago
This is from the makers of 'Miracles of the Qu'ran'. Islam can't rewrite history, you're stuck with it.
habibi99 4 years ago
Hop over to Project Gutenberg grab a copy of
Saxo Grammaticus and ask yourself how a Christian
Clergyman happened to document the first convert
King prior to Fomenkos claim Jesus wasn't born yet.
If you want fairy tales get the Grimm bros too. Free.
tyrbolo 4 years ago
Chronology was a subdivision of Mathematics in the xvi-xvii century. Author`s objective is to return Chronology to the fold of applied mathematics. He does do not cancel events, artefacts, Pyramids, Great Walls, peoples and persons outright, but suggests to find their true position on the time axis. Google>books>Fomenko 100%v free
mithec 4 years ago
@tyrbolo GARBAGE!!!
BBINGHAM032352 1 year ago
GARBAGE!!!
BBINGHAM032352 1 year ago
google>books>fomenko look at TOC, scroll and then comment
mithec 4 years ago
History isn't a solid entity to begin with. It is merely a speculation of the past that is always influenced by political and social pressures.
TengriAsura 4 years ago
wow .... someone likes smoking marajuana a little too much.. my message to the the person who made this book is that he should think about "rehab"
TrelosGreek 4 years ago
What the hell is this??
Insane! Take a history class for gods sake!
Telpy 4 years ago
no & yes. there was a 'mogol=mongol=mogul=..=megalion WORLD empire; but tiny nomadic mongoloid tribes were irrelevant to it. Google>books>fomenko
mithec 4 years ago
So how does this all relate to the history of China, India, Persia, and other eastern civilizations? Are the historical documents in the East false or inaccurate too?
silverbackman 4 years ago
well..Terrific Ghengis et al.`Mongol` nomadic tribes were small, illiterate and scattered before 19th cy, in fact they even did not even know they were touted in Russia and Europe as great conquerors. Russian history as we know it today is a blatant forgery concocted by a host of German scientists brought to Russia by the usurper dynasty of the Romanovs, whose ascension to the throne was the result of conspiracy, charged with the mission of making their reign look legitimate.
mithec 4 years ago
I don't know where you get this from, but as a Mongolist and sinologist, I take offense here. The Chinese kept accurate records of the Mongol conquests, as did the Tibetans and the Mongols themselves. Texts in Phags-Pa script, classical Mongol script and Mongol rendered with Chinese characters all exist from the empire period. Mongol history since 1100 is quite well documented. You can tout rubbish if you like, but don't denigrate an entire nation.
blackjamm 4 years ago
Any idea of Jesuit historiography has no effect in Sino-mongolo-tibetan societies, nor in Japanese society. The Mongol tribes, united under Chinggis, attacked to the south, east, west and north. Their campaigns in Europe and Russia were comparatively small - what is in western Russia or Europe for a steppe nomad? - and the best documentation of their campaigns comes from sources which would be un-affected by any theoretical problem with western historiographic traditions.
blackjamm 4 years ago
Jesus was crusefied in the ROMAN times. The ROMANS crusified him. And the Romans did not exist in 1086 AD!
Mowen0201 4 years ago
Do not nit pick certain events, remember, this book gives an entire time line of history, not just when jesus was crucified. The idea of 'Romans' is completely different between you and Fomenko, or your view and reality.
ramonesacidpillsh 4 years ago
I think all this is proof that all religions are old myths. some are fun to read but they are myths just the same.i wish people would study real things. things that might help mankind. insted of destroying it.
pluto000333 4 years ago
A.D. = Anno Domini
mithec 4 years ago
If Jesus died and resurected somewhare in A.D than there is no A.D. Because A.D means After Death (JesusChrist Death and B.C (Before Christ)
His death made our calendar. Amazon sells their soul just to sell. This is absurd!@!!!!
cristoeselrey 4 years ago
c14 has nothing to do with precision every serieous scientist knows that...you can not prove anything with this invalit type of carbon dating.
crni1404 4 years ago
c14 is low precision because of: extreme sensitivity to contamination, unstable level c14 in atmosphere, nuclear tests, calibrated on samples of arbtrary presumed age. accumulated error +/- 1500 years. fails dismally all black box tests.
mithec 4 years ago
+- 1500 years? I can assure you NO WAY!
Anyways I prefer not to waste my time on this.
DanVilAl 4 years ago
c14 is low precision because of: extreme sensitivity to contamination, unstable level c14 in atmosphere, nuclear tests, calibrated on samples of arbtrary presumed age. accumulated error +/- 1500 years. fails dismally all black box tests.
mithec 4 years ago
carbon dating of old texts proves all this to be retarded...
TheShield04 4 years ago
S.Sapiens<150.000 yrs old, civilization= (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS datable earlier than the XI century.
mithec 4 years ago
As a Roman Historian I find this absolutely laughable. Try some research before a sequel. Half of your images do not line up with the information being displayed. Your tapestries of the "First Crusade" are actually images of the Bayeaux Tapestry, illustrating William the Conquerer's life and story.
...and my favorite part was the automated voice...
IchthusADMR 4 years ago
Alright. But why were the ancient Romans familiar with the works of Homer(including the Trojan War)? Why are archeologists uncovering Greek and Roman Pottery and statuary alluding to these events? Sorry but this is ridiculous
funnyboy1555 4 years ago
Now lets not forget that the heavy plow and the horse coller was also invented during the 8th centurys. Quite significant achievments. Meanwhile Charlamange setout from the Frankinsh kingdom and counquers Germany, italy, and Poland. Also he puts an end to the avar raids by destroying their kingdom in the balkans.
deligthelf 4 years ago
it is certainly mory convinient to prophesize after the fact.
mithec 4 years ago
too bad. the word conspiracy is not a part the author`s vocabulary: : go to google or to amazon>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge.
mithec 4 years ago
So, which Institution for the Mentally Retarded are you at? Troy?- errr i mean Jerusalem- errr Constanople or Istanbul?? oh and when did you make this? 3068 BC??? LOL
skater4130 4 years ago
if some people believe this utter crud, then no wonder Dubya got into the White House with his dogs: Cheney, Rove & Wolfowitz...
alberichn 4 years ago
I'm sorry, I don't believe it.
funkyfru 4 years ago
So they want us to believe that the old testament came after the new. I'd like to hear an explanation for the prophetic books that pretell Christ's death.
114pm 4 years ago
Occam razor cuts: Sapiens sapiens species <=150000 years old, civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS dateble earlier than the XI century.
mithec 4 years ago
I would be embaraged with my self if i created this video how could Omiros the great Greek epic historian write for this war thousand years before?
Phisicsolutor 4 years ago
Homo Sapiens sapiens species is approx. 120000 years old, but civilization (state+army+ideology) goes only as far back as AD 800, scarce information about 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled after the new One, renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS dateble earlier than the XI century.
mithec 4 years ago
Scarce information of the 8th and 10th Cs!? HA! Let me see here. 711 Muslim armies invade Spain crushing the visogoths, who are to busy fighting amongst themselves. 718 Muslim army gets its assed wooped by Byzantium with help of Bulgar hordes. 732 Charles Martel destroys a large muslim army at Potiers, becomes king of France. Also in Formenkos russia many of the Volga Barbarbarians convert to islam.
deligthelf 4 years ago
Shang, Zhou, Warring States, Qin, Han, Three Kingdoms, Northern Wei, Sui, Tang. These are words I advise you to look up if you are going to claim that civilisation is only 1200 years old. Look up, in fact, anything to do with Chinese history. I don't think Jesuits had anything to do with Chinese knowledge of history - in fact, I'm 100% positive of that, and when the first Jesuits arrived in China, the Chinese had vastly more to teach them.
blackjamm 4 years ago
Chronology was a subdivision of Mathematics in the xvi-xvii century. Author`s objective is to return Chronology to the fold of applied mathematics. He does do not cancel events, artefacts, Pyramids, Great Walls, peoples and persons outright, but suggests to find their true position on the time axis. Google>books>fomenko
mithec 4 years ago
The Chinese chronology is entirely separate and extremely well-documented. It was not invented in the 16th century, but much earlier - much, much earlier. Since the chronology is separate, but verifies the European one, I'd say that both are correct, and that this is a silly hypothesis. Also, it is clearly claimed that some events didn't occur - you state that the Mongols, until the 19th C, were small bands, etc. Since the Mongols evidently did not conquer anyone in the 19th century...
blackjamm 4 years ago
you are suggesting that the Mongol conquests never happened. The combined annals of China, Japan, Mongolia itself, Tibet, the central Asian empires and kingdoms, the Kara Khitai, Burma, the Uyghurs - as well as Russia, Hungary, Georgia, Poland, Armenia, Egypt, Syria, Persia (Islamic chronology - separate from Jesuits too) - all point to there having been a Mongol empire between 1206 and 1400 CE.
blackjamm 4 years ago
Very interesting idea to attract customers to buy this book. But fact and the truth are well known.
dovlex 4 years ago
i have a single question. if rome didnt exist then how do we have the romance languages?
rialye 4 years ago
..most historical events we know took place in AD 1000-1500. Archaeological, dendrochronological, paleographical and carbon methods of dating of ancient sources and artefacts are both non-exact and contradictory, actually there is not a single piece of firm written evidence or artefact that could be reliably and independently dated earlier than the XI century. Measurement precision is too low for the AD period.
mithec 4 years ago
I'm sorry, but this claim is totally false. Carbon dating is accurate based on a +/- scale of between 50-75 years, not quite accounting for your "Christ was born 1000 years after he really was" idea. Sorry, you're just wrong.
birch1bs 4 years ago
bullshit, well i geuss not , not if you want to overlook the universe of proof saporting the fact this is bulshit, one for instance , the relics that were found in troy that were tested using radio carbon dating proving that troy was a city that was destroyed hundreds of years before the first crusade
toaster89 4 years ago
This is just pathetically stupid. I've studied ancient history for over 20 years, and it's amazing there are still ignorant people who believe such nonsense. Way too many fools have voices in this world.
thesilvershields 4 years ago
what's with these angry people? it betrays what they read history books for: their own agenda.
I read that part about the eclipse and the references in the bible and it does make sense. Besides, books like the bible and ancient "history" books that we find in libraries (of course these ancient books have been writen recently and are not real) are so primitive and "general" (never any personal story, always politics, as vague as possible) that anything is possible.
elephant1111 4 years ago
"Never any personal story." I advise you to read any of the Greek historians, or any Chinese dynastic or personal history. The autobiography section of the Chinese dynastic histories is often considered the most interesting part - check out Ouyang Xiu's "Historical Records of the Five Dynasties" (the closest thing to a dynastic history for that period) to see some excellent examples, and of course, Sima Qian's "Records of the Historian". See Xiang Yu's biography in there.
blackjamm 4 years ago
Jesus born in 1053 AD? How can you explain Christians in Rome long before this? Or Christianity taking hold in places like Armenia "700 years" before he was born then?
Ossadawn 4 years ago
I can't believe Fomenko would endorse this kind of humbug.
BatesJr 4 years ago
wow , he should rename his book "History written as ficttion..."
BOGZASV8MA 4 years ago
it is rather rascist
cloudplushie 4 years ago
Very interesting and thought provoking, at least from a historian's point of view...
ClassicRocker3D 4 years ago
This is completely garbage.
But, creaturebotman, to say "this is white western bullsh!t is completely outrageous. Just because the media hates the west doesn't mean there is justification, retard. Go hit your head against a wall.
MrNever8 4 years ago
poster l26j does not know does ASTRONOMY goes on using the JULIAN calendar, which happens to be MORE PRECISE.
mithec 4 years ago
Quite a few angry people in these parts.
Thanks for posting this video.
szaionz 4 years ago
This is truely the most ludicrous "book" i have ever seen. The only thing even remotely close to "proof" of this ludicrous idea of millions of people in on this secret is eclipses.
Perhaps the authour is unfamiliar with teh fact that calendars and time keeping was inaccurate before the invention of the Gregorian calendar.
L26J 4 years ago
LMAO Jerusalem=Constantinopole jesus was born in 1053??? So he was a Byzantine?? Who crusified him?? The only logical explanation is that the guy who wrote this has something against the jesuits or whatever? You know of carbon dating?? Look it up man if u want to sell a book write something like LOTR
NKombo 4 years ago
So the evolution of man did start until much earlier? When did the Roman Empire reign?
ryanstiles 4 years ago
I have a question... Where The F4^K are all the BLACK people? We ain't even shown in this line of history. What the fu@k is up with that? This is typical White western bullshit! and what about the asians? Chineese history goes back 6,000 years. This is all about History and as the great Richard Prior once said...its all about HIS - STORY !!!
Man ! Fu7k This Shit!
creaturebotman 4 years ago
Dude, were you BORN this stupid, or did you have to work at it?
peacemastr 4 years ago
Come on clown, were you born without a sense of humor or too stupid to see this is a joke. loosen up a little pal.
creaturebotman 4 years ago
What a load of absolute BOLLOCKS !!! Some people will do anything to sell a book. In actual fact, the Trojan war was part of Hitler's strategy on europe, & the first crusade was my idea, I know cos I was there!!
robmason23 4 years ago
the events and monuments are right, the timeline is simply wrong.
mithec 5 years ago
By the way, you shouldn't be allowed out of your house in the morning by any community that still holds its grip on reality...
birch1bs 5 years ago
I once heard of this thing called carbon dating. It's not %100 accurate but I think it's pretty close. It could be that the machines that carbon date things were created by the Jesuits in the 17th Century. If they not only fabricated history, in its entirety, but also made large, complex, and technologically advanced machinery to date "manufactured" ruins to a "mythological" 2nd Century, then I want one of them to teach me how to do that shit!
birch1bs 5 years ago
Mithec=motherfucker
fxdane 5 years ago
Wow...this is probably the most ass backwards thing I've eer seen. Jesus was born in 1053? Classical Greek City_states were just Crusader States? Give me a break.
So I suppose all the archeological evidence we have of Classical Greek and Roman architecture, weapons, clothing, armor and hell, even texts were just planted there by nefarious historians looking to exploit history then? To what end?
This is utter garbage.
frant1a 5 years ago