4. A lot of this Guru/Pendeker BS is either political in the East or appropriated in the West in lieu of a belt system! Certainly in Indonesia it is considered bad form to refer to oneself as a Guru or the likes. The real Gurus keep their mouths shut ;-)
@Silatbule good points, agree with them all except, not all gurus keep their mouths shut.. trust me, I spend a lot of time in Malaysia and there is a lot of politics and b.s. but your points were spot on! :-)
3. Why is there an obsession of where an art 'originates' did little brown people or big white people etc. have to wait around getting beaten up until someone came and taught them to fight? All peoples throughout history have developed fighting systems and 'stolen' good ideas.
1. Silat is not a 'Muslim' art but an art mainly practiced by Muslims. This is purely down to demographics and not the art or religion. It's because it practiced where Muslims live. 2. I have never had a problem with my(lack of) religion in Indonesia. Never been an issue, if it was I wouldn't want to train with someone offended by a 'bule' anyway.
im indonesian, and muslim. silat is not muslim MA in even not hindu art, the art is self long exist waay bfore the hindu and islam arrived in the maritime world of SEA, its born through out the animism and dynamism era of indonesia. The warth of nature and the world of animus (mainly the animal spirit) is the mother of this art. as the hindu and muslim arrived this art sublimed with the way of the religions...
Hay, if a style came from a group of people, say Muslims.... then so be it. But once it is shared with the world, it belongs to no one anymore. it becomes..OUR style. But then again, I do not get out of shape whewn people say " Kung fu is a Buddist art"... for it came from Buddist monks.. fine. Why do people get all bent out of shape when some people say that Silat is a Muslim Martial art? ...That is my question.
@edavis5190 Possibly because Kung Fu (Shaolin anyway) originated within the context of Buddhism (Shaolin monks) whereas Silat predates Islam and originated within Hindu and Buddhist pre-Islamic society based on Hinduism and Buddhism. Calling Silat "Muslim" is like calling Taekwondo "Christian" on the basis that Evangelism seems to be gaining ground in South Korea. Try telling the Marquis of Queensberry (or the ancient Greeks for that matter) that boxing is "American".
As for silat belonging to any religion, Islam, Hinduism or even Animism, seriously who is bothered. Oh hang on, lots of people who attach their feeling of self worth to some generic art form instead of focussing on the training. Nothing wrong with being proud of the art you do i'm all for that but unless the particular system of silat you do is only a couple of generations old you can't guarantee what religion or belief system the 'original' art was :)
i haven't watched jet but the first ting that comes to mind is that the muslim religion in general and in the far east specifically, is to young to have fathered silat
basicly.. if they say this style belongs to a certain belief.. that is an issue about ownership. and that alone creates a lot of shit. because now people suddenly think they have more of a right to say something to someone else about THEIR style.. for the rest I don't know much about silat. only that my grandma who is from Indonesia kicked my ass with that shit. and she was a catholic.
i dont think anyone who makes the statement that non-muslims or whites shouldnt be taught are properly following their diyn(way of life in islaam) because we are all from adam regardless of our faith. evey human regardless of gender or nationality has the right to learn to defend themselves. GM angel cabales taught EVERYONE. islam in the malay/indonesian/filipino areas does not pre-date silat. the yemenese jambia blade was only introduced through trade long after silat was well rooted.
i wouldnt say that silat is a muslim art. i will say that it is practiced by a lot of muslims, myself included. if silat originated in the middle east then why isnt it documented before of after islam?we know capoeira evolved from an older angolan art from africa and the proof is with the descendants of the slaves themselves since it didnt appear before slavery in brazil. but as far as silat being a muslim art i must say no and any of my muslim brothers that dont agree must put forth proof.
@jamiirali1 I am Muslim (which means to me "one that does the five prayers per day" as is the duty) and I will say that this issue would not be one if 9/11 did not happen!!!! All of a sudden people are concerned as to if a fighting art is Muslim. These are the facts: any place Muslims are in number have likely a martial art that was practiced and influenced by Muslims in some way. In the Philippines Muslim practice and no doubt have added to Kali! In China Muslims .......
@jamiirali1 In China Muslims have practiced and have no doubt added to Kung-fu! And malaysia has a large number of Muslims so yes, it is likely that certain moves have been influenced and perfected by Muslims. If people do not want to practice a martial art, don't practice it, but the ties to Islam in several fighting arts is strong. No body said Muslims created a style (but that could be also), but this would not be an issue if someone said Christians influenced a style. Stop the nonsense.
islam is a way of life, kung fu is a muslim art, tae kwan do is a muslim art, wrestling is a muslim art, archery is a muslim art, it doesn't mean that the prophet (peace be upon him) invented it, he just said a strong believer is better than a weak believer - so it is not unlawful for us to practice any lawful and good martial art -as long as it doesnt have lewdness and decadence,
we all practice variations of the same martial skill and martial arts. You can either train to be a weapon or for health cultivation. all this white, muslim this and that is just absolute nonsense. if any student comes to any teacher with humility and respect, the teacher has no rite to refuse the passing of knowledge. no man owns knowledge and does the human family a disservice if they let knowledge not pass because of prejudice. if you teach without prejudice, how can there be war?
I don't agree with this whole Silat is Muslim argument either it may contain some of the virtues of the Muslim faith but there no need for the outright racism involved, I have trained with Guru Richard Crabbe de-Bordes and I can see why he is regarded a warrior but advertising your so called art claiming to be a warrior there is no need because you probably learned those skills if any from your teacher and his before him, These people should learn some respect for everyone.
It is my strong belief that Silat was brought into being by a person with two arms and two legs which move independently of each other.I personally don't care where it came from,as long as i can take what i want from it,that will do for me.Politics in Martial Arts sickens me and is a reason many people leave Martial Arts.Anyway i'll get off my soapbox now,kind regards to you and keep up the videos,they make a lot of sense.
I'm Malaysian, a Bumiputra (Malay... whatever... Oh yeah, even races has it's ow political definition), and never was a fan of silat for two reasons. (1) The Muslim art issue you raised; (2) their supernatural beliefs.
I come across lots of Malays who believe that practicing Silat and reading a scripture out of the Quran can give them super powers such as super strength, flight and even invulnerability. How much of these Silat superstitions have you come across from your Malaysian friends?
@ZirthDrince Agreed. Many, but I just see it as their belief and just something I can accept as their belief and just do the general practice which is most of the time fun (politics aside, lol) :-)
Any subject, be it religeon, politics, hobbies, etc, can be discussed and shared from a formal, peacefull standpoint IF all parties are open minded and accepting of others OPINIONS. When you get in front of the camera and just talk about what you believe, what you know, that's great information! I'm a straight white Christian America, but i'll sit down with a gay muslim and share ideas and views about religeon anyday! All you need is respect and there's no topic that's exclusive/off limits.
@Saforge True.. But I think you'll find it hard to find a gay muslim.. lol, I dunno.. Just sayin', from what I've seen in S.E. Asia its not very well 'accepted'..But yeah, totally get your point dude. Cool
By the way luke, my first comment made it look like i don't agree with anything you say. That's not true! sorry if it was disrespectful. I really like your videos, i always learn something new. As my sifu says, everyone, no matter how good or full of bull they are, can teach you at least one thing that will be benefitial for your martial art. I'm not a good or experienced fighter, just a MA passionate who loves discussing the arts! respect!!
@BB992 no no, I understand.. that's cool.. There's always like 20 comments to approve and I don't see them all, that's all, lol.. Thanks for the input! :-)
I find it funny that this argument actually exists. Alot of science, fighting styles, theories, medicine etc. developed during the time that islam was an empire. Claiming that Silat is part of Islam is as stupid as saying that Algebra belongs to Islam, its just something that developed in an area/period/location/environment where islam was prevelant hence the reason why it may have representation or characteristics which relate to islam.
People go back long before your minds were clouded by religion. Back to the days when apes scampered the land. Before organized religion. Before the hybrid that became man. Can you remember? Can you feel it still? Remember the primal fear of the big cats and down by the waters edge the big lizards. Just to drink water how death waited from every angle. ------ Put those emotions into your training. Now choose which actions and things allow you kill your enemy. If you survive remember and refine
how does it matter where it comes from if it works?? by the logic some of those ppl are following everyone who practices karate should follow shinto spirituality etc. hey guess what islamic scientists gave use our numerical system and the majority of our early chemistry. does that me western ppl should abandon them or that only those who follow islam should be allowed to use chemistry or mathmatics to maintain purity. if it works use it cos the guy attacking you wont care where its from imho
@wolfbrother2501 Agreed. FYI in Japan a lot of Karate and other forms of Budo a like are tied heavily to Shinto practices, like Silat in S.E. Asia I guess.. But yeah, they don't try and argue the point nor recruit you.. But it's funny you should mention that cos it's VERY strict in Japan.. I have a couple of videos up here of my training in Japan, check it out if you're interested :-)
@dingoman if an assassin used it (which is highly likely) then sure. but some try to promote themselves with this Warrior bullshit! To me it's comical!
@TeamWuJin Middle eastens People used another Art from this was had by the Chinese and Navtie Malayian People. Who happen to be Muslim. Really in the Quran It said you have to defiend your self it never said to use a protecer marial art.
I cannot believe those religious fundamentalists! Really, all I care about is does the system work? Bruce Lee asked that question himself and came up with JKD. You have found Silat and put your own idea and created your own. Yours work and that's all that matter to me.
In my opinion no Martial Art belongs to any religion. The art itself should almost resemble a religion in the sense that you should obey the laws of your art and train as much as a religious person would pray.
Whites and non-Muslims not learning Silat ? If that is what the Moozies think then I guess we should kick them out the international boxing federations as well as all other non Mooslum MA organisations. In fact those people are taking it that far that a civil war will errupt in Europe.
@jbravo41 By kicking out Muslims you would just be doing the same thing you are having issue with.
The problem is a few religious people trying to claim that a physical art belongs to them. Tan Tui (springing leg sets) are a Muslim set that is now in virtually every northern Chinese style. Respect should be given to it's founders even if religious but to claim exclusivity makes those doing so look foolish.
Problem is that there are some people in Islam that feel they can regulate your life. No matter who you are and what you believe in. And saying it out loud is considered politically incorrect. But the biggest problem is that muslims themselves dont call them out on that. They have a lack of introspection, thats why there in the state of mind that they are. Straight up in denial.
@Churchx77 ''People in Islam feel they can regulate your life''.... Dude, I got JWs and Mormans and GOD knows what kinda Bible bashers knockin' on my door trying to lecture me every second day! lol
@TeamWuJin Dude thats true but if you sleep around with one of their sisters I doubt many of them would find beheading you a fitting way to deal with you. Apples oranges and then theres crazy fucking religious people. They got more, doesnt change what you said about your friends tho.
"getting whooped with a stick, is getting whooped with a stick, regardless of what language it's done in. Nobody owns an ass whoopin' except the person it's being given to".
@Bammx2 im going to steal that quote if you dont mind.i have been the sole owner and recipient of many an ass whippin(a good ole north carolina ass whoopin to be exact) and your wise grandfather summed it up wisely!!!
mars attacks comment = perfect. My exact views on racism. Good video you shouldn't need to address the idiots in your comments. Can't avoid em though. Good luck!
its not a muslim art, its a moslem art. there is a difference. one is a religion, the other is the family of man, there is a historical difference in the usage of the word. silat, and other arts like bokator, lions roar, tae kyon, te, capoeira, pankration, stav, savate, pankration etc... all can trace their begginings of their knowledge to the original universities of the world which were moslem schools. We are one human family with one history. to try to divide ourselves is insanity.
@thedaoofthewarrior The world universities were in Egypt way back when. The Greeks and everyone else got their knowledge from the Kushite people the originated from Ethiopia. The first Greeks, Arabs (Yemen’s), Egyptians (Kmts) and Indians (Delti) came from the Kushite people. Everything else you said was cool.
@AhnicB the kushite universities are exactly the universities i am reffering to. however there were more than just the universites in kemet and karnak. there were pyramid universities all over the world, from mexico, to england/scotland/ireland, cambodia, india, chin,/japan, the us, ect..... all of what i am saying is cooberated in the religions of these places, their martial arts, and the names of their cities and countries.
@AhnicB we are reffering to the same universities, how ever there were more than just those in kemet and west africa. when you follow the so called kushites(because it was alot more than just the kushites but was all kemetnu) you find the pyramid universities all over the world, in mexico,u.s., europe, cambodia, japan etc.... the places that had schools were considered part of the human family which was everybody. the human family has a different name than kushite.
is silat not related to muay thai and kali? i remember reading a story that mentions a single empire uniting the nations from malaysia phillipines indonesia thailand that developed a system that branched out onto those 3
As a Muslim I will say this. Martial arts are universal. I think that Silat is a form that may have developed among Muslims, but as Martial artist, we learn form everyone and everywhere. I believe that knowlege belongs to EVERYONE. I have learned from Muslims, Chritians and others. We need unity among all honarable fighrers. I have even learned from you Luke. And I thank you so much for teaching most excellent knife fighting. Peace be with you. I hopt to meet you some day.
i totally agree..it's like saying our numbers we use are muslim numbers..because we call them arabic numbers..but actually they come from india..we all use this numbers today..interesting video..thank you for the video..
@Karasupowa haven't trained it enough to comment sorry.. I have taught in France but it was not a civilian/open course. I am teaching another Instructor course in Chaleroi, Belgium in October.. It looks like we might have a couple of guys coming from France, you are welcome to join us :)
Might have been Rory Miller who said "Martial arts are like religions of movement". that really stuck with me, cos they really are. Like you said about every different master "Creating" their own style, its like every different priest creating their own sect. Regardless, i think the problem of politics in martial arts could be solved by an old idea; trial by combat. In other words, don't tell me, show me. I like the Attacked by Mars bit, provides a good perspective.
Malay government is not so good. That is why they are political.
BatmanbinSuperman12 4 weeks ago
4. A lot of this Guru/Pendeker BS is either political in the East or appropriated in the West in lieu of a belt system! Certainly in Indonesia it is considered bad form to refer to oneself as a Guru or the likes. The real Gurus keep their mouths shut ;-)
Silatbule 7 months ago
@Silatbule good points, agree with them all except, not all gurus keep their mouths shut.. trust me, I spend a lot of time in Malaysia and there is a lot of politics and b.s. but your points were spot on! :-)
TeamWuJin 7 months ago
@TeamWuJin come to sabah malaysa..there alot of gurus there..
xxxzzzxxx227 5 months ago
3. Why is there an obsession of where an art 'originates' did little brown people or big white people etc. have to wait around getting beaten up until someone came and taught them to fight? All peoples throughout history have developed fighting systems and 'stolen' good ideas.
Silatbule 7 months ago
1. Silat is not a 'Muslim' art but an art mainly practiced by Muslims. This is purely down to demographics and not the art or religion. It's because it practiced where Muslims live. 2. I have never had a problem with my(lack of) religion in Indonesia. Never been an issue, if it was I wouldn't want to train with someone offended by a 'bule' anyway.
Silatbule 7 months ago
im indonesian, and muslim. silat is not muslim MA in even not hindu art, the art is self long exist waay bfore the hindu and islam arrived in the maritime world of SEA, its born through out the animism and dynamism era of indonesia. The warth of nature and the world of animus (mainly the animal spirit) is the mother of this art. as the hindu and muslim arrived this art sublimed with the way of the religions...
MrSolitude14 8 months ago
silat is older then the religon of islam isnt it? thousands of years old
SUBLIMEDUDESTP 8 months ago
Hay, if a style came from a group of people, say Muslims.... then so be it. But once it is shared with the world, it belongs to no one anymore. it becomes..OUR style. But then again, I do not get out of shape whewn people say " Kung fu is a Buddist art"... for it came from Buddist monks.. fine. Why do people get all bent out of shape when some people say that Silat is a Muslim Martial art? ...That is my question.
edavis5190 8 months ago
@edavis5190 Possibly because Kung Fu (Shaolin anyway) originated within the context of Buddhism (Shaolin monks) whereas Silat predates Islam and originated within Hindu and Buddhist pre-Islamic society based on Hinduism and Buddhism. Calling Silat "Muslim" is like calling Taekwondo "Christian" on the basis that Evangelism seems to be gaining ground in South Korea. Try telling the Marquis of Queensberry (or the ancient Greeks for that matter) that boxing is "American".
nevetsbond 8 months ago
@nevetsbond good point.
TeamWuJin 7 months ago
i'm pretty sure god taught silat to man. man beat god up with silat. god said hormat and said any religion can practice silat.
guitardaddy6 8 months ago
Politics in Silat!?!? Luke, surely not :p
As for silat belonging to any religion, Islam, Hinduism or even Animism, seriously who is bothered. Oh hang on, lots of people who attach their feeling of self worth to some generic art form instead of focussing on the training. Nothing wrong with being proud of the art you do i'm all for that but unless the particular system of silat you do is only a couple of generations old you can't guarantee what religion or belief system the 'original' art was :)
bayang2007 8 months ago
i haven't watched jet but the first ting that comes to mind is that the muslim religion in general and in the far east specifically, is to young to have fathered silat
michapolak 8 months ago
@michapolak Nicely put! :-)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
basicly.. if they say this style belongs to a certain belief.. that is an issue about ownership. and that alone creates a lot of shit. because now people suddenly think they have more of a right to say something to someone else about THEIR style.. for the rest I don't know much about silat. only that my grandma who is from Indonesia kicked my ass with that shit. and she was a catholic.
SuperRevolvingdoor 8 months ago
i dont think anyone who makes the statement that non-muslims or whites shouldnt be taught are properly following their diyn(way of life in islaam) because we are all from adam regardless of our faith. evey human regardless of gender or nationality has the right to learn to defend themselves. GM angel cabales taught EVERYONE. islam in the malay/indonesian/filipino areas does not pre-date silat. the yemenese jambia blade was only introduced through trade long after silat was well rooted.
jamiirali1 8 months ago
i wouldnt say that silat is a muslim art. i will say that it is practiced by a lot of muslims, myself included. if silat originated in the middle east then why isnt it documented before of after islam?we know capoeira evolved from an older angolan art from africa and the proof is with the descendants of the slaves themselves since it didnt appear before slavery in brazil. but as far as silat being a muslim art i must say no and any of my muslim brothers that dont agree must put forth proof.
jamiirali1 8 months ago
@jamiirali1 I am Muslim (which means to me "one that does the five prayers per day" as is the duty) and I will say that this issue would not be one if 9/11 did not happen!!!! All of a sudden people are concerned as to if a fighting art is Muslim. These are the facts: any place Muslims are in number have likely a martial art that was practiced and influenced by Muslims in some way. In the Philippines Muslim practice and no doubt have added to Kali! In China Muslims .......
genious4real 8 months ago
@jamiirali1 In China Muslims have practiced and have no doubt added to Kung-fu! And malaysia has a large number of Muslims so yes, it is likely that certain moves have been influenced and perfected by Muslims. If people do not want to practice a martial art, don't practice it, but the ties to Islam in several fighting arts is strong. No body said Muslims created a style (but that could be also), but this would not be an issue if someone said Christians influenced a style. Stop the nonsense.
genious4real 8 months ago
@MacGyver4E ummmm. I dunno to be honest.. lol, I'm just havin' fun with it :-)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
islam is a way of life, kung fu is a muslim art, tae kwan do is a muslim art, wrestling is a muslim art, archery is a muslim art, it doesn't mean that the prophet (peace be upon him) invented it, he just said a strong believer is better than a weak believer - so it is not unlawful for us to practice any lawful and good martial art -as long as it doesnt have lewdness and decadence,
peace
abz2000123 8 months ago
we all practice variations of the same martial skill and martial arts. You can either train to be a weapon or for health cultivation. all this white, muslim this and that is just absolute nonsense. if any student comes to any teacher with humility and respect, the teacher has no rite to refuse the passing of knowledge. no man owns knowledge and does the human family a disservice if they let knowledge not pass because of prejudice. if you teach without prejudice, how can there be war?
thedaoofthewarrior 8 months ago
@thedaoofthewarrior Agreed.
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
I know its off topic but......You remind me of the Green Beret from Commandos 2
KrazyHowler 8 months ago
I don't agree with this whole Silat is Muslim argument either it may contain some of the virtues of the Muslim faith but there no need for the outright racism involved, I have trained with Guru Richard Crabbe de-Bordes and I can see why he is regarded a warrior but advertising your so called art claiming to be a warrior there is no need because you probably learned those skills if any from your teacher and his before him, These people should learn some respect for everyone.
gordo970 8 months ago
@gordo970 Agreed.
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
It is my strong belief that Silat was brought into being by a person with two arms and two legs which move independently of each other.I personally don't care where it came from,as long as i can take what i want from it,that will do for me.Politics in Martial Arts sickens me and is a reason many people leave Martial Arts.Anyway i'll get off my soapbox now,kind regards to you and keep up the videos,they make a lot of sense.
earlbailey1 8 months ago
@earlbailey1 Agreed!
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
I'm Malaysian, a Bumiputra (Malay... whatever... Oh yeah, even races has it's ow political definition), and never was a fan of silat for two reasons. (1) The Muslim art issue you raised; (2) their supernatural beliefs.
I come across lots of Malays who believe that practicing Silat and reading a scripture out of the Quran can give them super powers such as super strength, flight and even invulnerability. How much of these Silat superstitions have you come across from your Malaysian friends?
ZirthDrince 8 months ago
@ZirthDrince Agreed. Many, but I just see it as their belief and just something I can accept as their belief and just do the general practice which is most of the time fun (politics aside, lol) :-)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
Any subject, be it religeon, politics, hobbies, etc, can be discussed and shared from a formal, peacefull standpoint IF all parties are open minded and accepting of others OPINIONS. When you get in front of the camera and just talk about what you believe, what you know, that's great information! I'm a straight white Christian America, but i'll sit down with a gay muslim and share ideas and views about religeon anyday! All you need is respect and there's no topic that's exclusive/off limits.
Saforge 8 months ago
@Saforge True.. But I think you'll find it hard to find a gay muslim.. lol, I dunno.. Just sayin', from what I've seen in S.E. Asia its not very well 'accepted'..But yeah, totally get your point dude. Cool
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
By the way luke, my first comment made it look like i don't agree with anything you say. That's not true! sorry if it was disrespectful. I really like your videos, i always learn something new. As my sifu says, everyone, no matter how good or full of bull they are, can teach you at least one thing that will be benefitial for your martial art. I'm not a good or experienced fighter, just a MA passionate who loves discussing the arts! respect!!
BB992 8 months ago
@BB992 no no, I understand.. that's cool.. There's always like 20 comments to approve and I don't see them all, that's all, lol.. Thanks for the input! :-)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
kali/escrima/arnis is a different art. as in, they have routes from silat (as u said several forms), and also from chinese arts
BB992 8 months ago
Very well stated and intelligently presented. Thank you for posting this.
PendekarBobbe 8 months ago
@PendekarBobbe thank you kindly :-)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
I find it funny that this argument actually exists. Alot of science, fighting styles, theories, medicine etc. developed during the time that islam was an empire. Claiming that Silat is part of Islam is as stupid as saying that Algebra belongs to Islam, its just something that developed in an area/period/location/environment where islam was prevelant hence the reason why it may have representation or characteristics which relate to islam.
Odom1992 8 months ago
People go back long before your minds were clouded by religion. Back to the days when apes scampered the land. Before organized religion. Before the hybrid that became man. Can you remember? Can you feel it still? Remember the primal fear of the big cats and down by the waters edge the big lizards. Just to drink water how death waited from every angle. ------ Put those emotions into your training. Now choose which actions and things allow you kill your enemy. If you survive remember and refine
pangolin9 8 months ago
@pangolin9 you sound familiar :-)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
how does it matter where it comes from if it works?? by the logic some of those ppl are following everyone who practices karate should follow shinto spirituality etc. hey guess what islamic scientists gave use our numerical system and the majority of our early chemistry. does that me western ppl should abandon them or that only those who follow islam should be allowed to use chemistry or mathmatics to maintain purity. if it works use it cos the guy attacking you wont care where its from imho
wolfbrother2501 8 months ago
@wolfbrother2501 Agreed. FYI in Japan a lot of Karate and other forms of Budo a like are tied heavily to Shinto practices, like Silat in S.E. Asia I guess.. But yeah, they don't try and argue the point nor recruit you.. But it's funny you should mention that cos it's VERY strict in Japan.. I have a couple of videos up here of my training in Japan, check it out if you're interested :-)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
I do have a question on Silat, which stems from my ex-roommate. He claimed that Silat was an assassin's art. Is it?
dingoman 8 months ago
@dingoman if an assassin used it (which is highly likely) then sure. but some try to promote themselves with this Warrior bullshit! To me it's comical!
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
@TeamWuJin Middle eastens People used another Art from this was had by the Chinese and Navtie Malayian People. Who happen to be Muslim. Really in the Quran It said you have to defiend your self it never said to use a protecer marial art.
SuburbanNinja8000 8 months ago
@SuburbanNinja8000 good point!
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
@TeamWuJin Thanks. Am a Muslim... But I see anything to be different really.
SuburbanNinja8000 8 months ago
what if Mars was dominated by another sub-brand of Humans? then martians vs. earthlings would be another form of racism. OH SNAP.
Klayperson 8 months ago
@Klayperson lol, you got a lotta time on your hands.. hahaha
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
I cannot believe those religious fundamentalists! Really, all I care about is does the system work? Bruce Lee asked that question himself and came up with JKD. You have found Silat and put your own idea and created your own. Yours work and that's all that matter to me.
samsuh1234 8 months ago
In my opinion no Martial Art belongs to any religion. The art itself should almost resemble a religion in the sense that you should obey the laws of your art and train as much as a religious person would pray.
maccatheguitarist 8 months ago
Whites and non-Muslims not learning Silat ? If that is what the Moozies think then I guess we should kick them out the international boxing federations as well as all other non Mooslum MA organisations. In fact those people are taking it that far that a civil war will errupt in Europe.
jbravo41 8 months ago
@jbravo41 By kicking out Muslims you would just be doing the same thing you are having issue with.
The problem is a few religious people trying to claim that a physical art belongs to them. Tan Tui (springing leg sets) are a Muslim set that is now in virtually every northern Chinese style. Respect should be given to it's founders even if religious but to claim exclusivity makes those doing so look foolish.
SecretSword 8 months ago
Problem is that there are some people in Islam that feel they can regulate your life. No matter who you are and what you believe in. And saying it out loud is considered politically incorrect. But the biggest problem is that muslims themselves dont call them out on that. They have a lack of introspection, thats why there in the state of mind that they are. Straight up in denial.
Churchx77 8 months ago
@Churchx77 ''People in Islam feel they can regulate your life''.... Dude, I got JWs and Mormans and GOD knows what kinda Bible bashers knockin' on my door trying to lecture me every second day! lol
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
@TeamWuJin Dude thats true but if you sleep around with one of their sisters I doubt many of them would find beheading you a fitting way to deal with you. Apples oranges and then theres crazy fucking religious people. They got more, doesnt change what you said about your friends tho.
Churchx77 8 months ago
My grandaddy sum it up best....
"getting whooped with a stick, is getting whooped with a stick, regardless of what language it's done in. Nobody owns an ass whoopin' except the person it's being given to".
That's good enough for me ;-)
Bammx2 8 months ago
@Bammx2 im going to steal that quote if you dont mind.i have been the sole owner and recipient of many an ass whippin(a good ole north carolina ass whoopin to be exact) and your wise grandfather summed it up wisely!!!
jamiirali1 8 months ago
mars attacks comment = perfect. My exact views on racism. Good video you shouldn't need to address the idiots in your comments. Can't avoid em though. Good luck!
zegodlord 8 months ago
its not a muslim art, its a moslem art. there is a difference. one is a religion, the other is the family of man, there is a historical difference in the usage of the word. silat, and other arts like bokator, lions roar, tae kyon, te, capoeira, pankration, stav, savate, pankration etc... all can trace their begginings of their knowledge to the original universities of the world which were moslem schools. We are one human family with one history. to try to divide ourselves is insanity.
thedaoofthewarrior 8 months ago
@thedaoofthewarrior The world universities were in Egypt way back when. The Greeks and everyone else got their knowledge from the Kushite people the originated from Ethiopia. The first Greeks, Arabs (Yemen’s), Egyptians (Kmts) and Indians (Delti) came from the Kushite people. Everything else you said was cool.
AhnicB 8 months ago
@AhnicB the kushite universities are exactly the universities i am reffering to. however there were more than just the universites in kemet and karnak. there were pyramid universities all over the world, from mexico, to england/scotland/ireland, cambodia, india, chin,/japan, the us, ect..... all of what i am saying is cooberated in the religions of these places, their martial arts, and the names of their cities and countries.
thedaoofthewarrior 8 months ago
@AhnicB we are reffering to the same universities, how ever there were more than just those in kemet and west africa. when you follow the so called kushites(because it was alot more than just the kushites but was all kemetnu) you find the pyramid universities all over the world, in mexico,u.s., europe, cambodia, japan etc.... the places that had schools were considered part of the human family which was everybody. the human family has a different name than kushite.
thedaoofthewarrior 8 months ago
is silat not related to muay thai and kali? i remember reading a story that mentions a single empire uniting the nations from malaysia phillipines indonesia thailand that developed a system that branched out onto those 3
mazdaplz 8 months ago
As a Muslim I will say this. Martial arts are universal. I think that Silat is a form that may have developed among Muslims, but as Martial artist, we learn form everyone and everywhere. I believe that knowlege belongs to EVERYONE. I have learned from Muslims, Chritians and others. We need unity among all honarable fighrers. I have even learned from you Luke. And I thank you so much for teaching most excellent knife fighting. Peace be with you. I hopt to meet you some day.
edavis5190 8 months ago
your pullover is reversed ?
wonderbug10 8 months ago
@wonderbug10 I don't get it...
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
@TeamWuJin Champion logo in the clip is in reverse... hense the question, I guess.
D4RKW4RL0CK 8 months ago
@TeamWuJin Videos reversed, so hes confused.
Churchx77 8 months ago
@TeamWuJin I think he's referring to your jumper, "Champion" is written backwards but I take it that's just the webcam reversing it.
maccatheguitarist 8 months ago
@TeamWuJin He's wondering why the champion logo is backward in the video as to the topic since silat predates Islam it's a sad silly argument.
harr77 8 months ago
i totally agree..it's like saying our numbers we use are muslim numbers..because we call them arabic numbers..but actually they come from india..we all use this numbers today..interesting video..thank you for the video..
uddoss 8 months ago
ive heard a style training under the influence of a religion like Buddhism but ive never heard a style BELONG to a faith before.....interesting
kralalrulz 8 months ago
@kralalrulz yeah and look at the Hindu influences in Malaysia and Indonesia, especially Bali!!!
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
definitely one of the better videos about silat on youtube :) ...nice one brutha! - honesty is where it's at !
shantanou 8 months ago
Hello Luke I want to know what do you think about "systema" and is there a Raw Combat in France ?
Karasupowa 8 months ago
@Karasupowa haven't trained it enough to comment sorry.. I have taught in France but it was not a civilian/open course. I am teaching another Instructor course in Chaleroi, Belgium in October.. It looks like we might have a couple of guys coming from France, you are welcome to join us :)
TeamWuJin 8 months ago
Might have been Rory Miller who said "Martial arts are like religions of movement". that really stuck with me, cos they really are. Like you said about every different master "Creating" their own style, its like every different priest creating their own sect. Regardless, i think the problem of politics in martial arts could be solved by an old idea; trial by combat. In other words, don't tell me, show me. I like the Attacked by Mars bit, provides a good perspective.
ToraJutsu01 8 months ago
HAHA WHOS FIRST NOW ?!?!?!?!?!
Stevetrude 8 months ago
@Stevetrude me
fuzzymanpeach323 8 months ago
@Stevetrude
still you a-hole
kralalrulz 8 months ago