@JacqueseVonRIP I think that you'll find that Northern Ireland and Ireland are two different countries just after having a wee look at a map. Go on, have a shufti.
Yeah and plenty of protestant priests (or whatever the hell you call them) went about molesting children too. Want to know why it didn't get as much publicity? Cause it's easier to go for a unified church, where as protestantism is all over the place with denominations sprouting left, right and centre.
PRIESTS DO MOLEST. BUT, ASK YOURSELF THIS; DID THEY BECOME PEEDOS BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIESTS OR, DID THEY BECOME PRIESTS BECAUSE THEY ARE PEEDOS. OH AND WILLIE MCCREA, A RESPECTED PROTESTANT REVEREND WHO WAS A SUPPORTER OF BILLY WRIGHT AND THE PUP. BILLY WRIGHT, AT THIS TIME, WAS A CONFESSED MURDERER.....WHO BOASTED ABOUT KILLING CATHOLICS. WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT THIS, MCCREA SAID "OH THAT WAS WHEN HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE UVF, NOT THE LVF OR PUP". WRIGHT WAS NEVER SORRY. HE WAS A MURDERER.
@hurlinboy Priests not only partook in child abuse but also terrorism. Fr Patrick Fell served more than 10 years in an English jail over a conspiracy to cause explosions. Fr James Chesney was a member of the IRA unit that left three 'no warning' bombs in the Co Derry village in July 1972. Nine people including three children were killed.
Priests Burns, Chesney & Fell were all allowed to serve in the Priesthood AFTER those crimes, just like the child abusers were!
unionists and the orange order wont be discrminated against in a united Ireland. Just like southern unionists werent discrimnated against when partion happened.
Catholics are offended because the orangemen and their bands play sectarian songs. These bigots insist on marching through natioanlist areas, instead of just marching through their own areas.
Grew up in Ulster and lived in a predominantly protestant estate (Bloomfield/Rathgill). Had catholic friends who used to love watching the 12th parade and hanging out with the rest of us - any questions about that???
@orangegrover.....yeah i see my father every day and my mum and dad were married b4 I wz born. Oh yeah my father was responsible for killing 5 RUC members and 3 UDR members.....so fuck you
Tiocfaidh ár lá
Ireland will be free and you know it....IT WILL HAPPEN
Britain doesn't want Northern Ireland? First i have heard of it haha.....anyways its nothing to do with any other part of the UK e.g. lets say a vote was taken in Wales and they voted No to Northern Ireland being within the UK...nothing will happen there are 4 equal members of the United Kingdom none has more power then the other no matter if England is much bigger then Scotland etc...all are equal
can someone tell me why the orangemen march?? If it is purely to celebrate a religious battle 300 years ago surely they can see how this would be offence to catholics?
Catholics dont like it becuase it was a Protestant victory....i have to say the majoirty of Catholics dont mind...but there is some very sad/bitter people in that community.
how was it a protestant victory when the protestant ascendancy that took power thanks to king billys win persecuted presbyterians as well as catholics?
Protestants in Scotland were persecuted by the English Church before the battle that is why many of them moved to Ulster in the first place. King Williams victory was a victory for not only Protestantism in the UK but across Europe from that time on the Catholic Church lost the power to attack and invade Protestant nations.
Yes thats why they came here, and then were persecuted here by the anglican church and many went to America because of it. This bullshit about King William bringing religious and civil liberties here is a complete myth.
you couldnt be more wrong, Antrim lol, im not from any majoirty Prod/Unionist area at all. Btw no we dont think Ulster-Scots is a proper language its simply a mixture of Scots and Ulster accents...that is why we aren't looking for any kind of language act!
@jaydog89 well catholics are offended because the bands play sectarian songs. Instead of keeping to themselves and march in your their own community. But the bigots insist on marching through nationalist areas.
the Orange Order is a Protestant fraternal Organization; just as the Roman Catholics have Knights of Columbus and the Society of St. John the Baptist.
The Orange Order is simply a Protestant group...only Protestants can join. No different then Catholic groups that the Roman Catholic Church has. Protestants arent allowed to join them becuase their Roman Catholic groups...anyone who cant understand this is thinking to hard haha!
well let me just point out that billy cousins who played the bass drum in an orange band was responsibile for the murders of a lot of innocent catholics and was involved in the bombing of mc gurks bar in north belfast among the dead were the bar owners children , john gregg who played in an orange flute band was the leader of the u.d.a. in south east antrim who also was convicted of trying to murder the sinn feinn leader gerry adams .need i go on and on and on.?
the band`s that march with the orange order are 95% U.V.F. U.D.A. & R.H.C. who murdered catholic`s for decades . and don1t try and say any different . it`s the truth.
I see you still havent come up with any proof to support your STUPID IDIOTIC statement. Im patiently waiting .........I dont expect any sensible reply from you. WHAT DO U EXPECT FROM A PIG ONLY A GRUNT ;)
It's funny how the OOrder has historically tried to banish Catholicism from the public sphere and now complains about growing secularisation. Are they a religious org or not???
In reply, I must state that I float a lot of ideas on here, not necessarily saying they are correct, just putting them up for speculation. It does happen that every day I visit the Orange website with a fresh set of ideas about the rationale and its existence. In actuaal fact I could not care less who is blue or green. It just seems that this sectarian problem is a bit like the English Pommies fighting for recognition and no discrimination in N.Z. AND Australia. Seems a similarity.
You have just exposed your self as the idiot that you are. You say that you "float a lot of ideas, NOT NECESSARILY CORRECT ONES" What are you trying to say ??? Are you saying that you are not to be taken seriously as all of your comments are rubbish coming from you over active mind?? THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK>
As a New Zealander I also have the chance to see things clearly and to avoid mistakes. It just seems that some Orangemen give the Orange lodge a bad name. They get away with abusing people and making provocative remarks. No-one could agree that this is right, not even you surely, what I am attempting to ascertain and cant really establish is why such an organisation still exists. I know that there are many fine people in it, I actually quite like them all, don't really mean everything I say.
It would not matter how you tried to justify having Orange walks. The rationale in having Orange walks is quite questionable. The resultant effects of the walks is upheavel and there is definite animosity towards other sects particularly Catholics is very obvious. I also feel that the Orange order is a subsidiary of some larger illegal organisation which deals in criminal activities and the Orange walk is just a smokescreen for illegal activities.
As a New Zealander you seem to have no idea what your talking about. You make a very serious accusation which you must explain "I also feel that the Orange order is a subsidiary of some larger illegal organisation which deals in criminal activities and the Orange walk is just a smokescreen for illegal activities". THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATION TO MAKE. I CHALLENGE YOU TO EXPLAIN YOUR REMARK. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
i love how much bullshit is in this documentary!
watch 21 centuary orange order man its much more acurate!
ciankeaneable 1 week ago
if all the orange order members want to retain the union why dont they go back to blighty , problem solved
theses orange order are fruitcakes rubbing our noses with union jacks and bangin drums about something that happened 400 hundred years ago
mufc99ok 5 months ago
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AreYouSaved 9 months ago
It is inflamitry and it is sectarian.
biggiannie 10 months ago
@biggiannie the IRA are sectarian you don'r know about the orange order you think we are sinn finn they are sectarian we don't wear masks
gerg681 1 month ago
Worldwide propaganda machine second to none :) think he's describing what he's just doing now.
suppernoddypo2k7 1 year ago
1:48
He'd want to respect Irksh culture seeing how he's living in Ireland.
And I love the comparison between orange parades and gaelic matches. What a gob-shite.
JacqueseVonRIP 1 year ago
@JacqueseVonRIP I think that you'll find that Northern Ireland and Ireland are two different countries just after having a wee look at a map. Go on, have a shufti.
Kkardemumma 1 year ago
Yeah and plenty of protestant priests (or whatever the hell you call them) went about molesting children too. Want to know why it didn't get as much publicity? Cause it's easier to go for a unified church, where as protestantism is all over the place with denominations sprouting left, right and centre.
JacqueseVonRIP 1 year ago
PRIESTS DO MOLEST. BUT, ASK YOURSELF THIS; DID THEY BECOME PEEDOS BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIESTS OR, DID THEY BECOME PRIESTS BECAUSE THEY ARE PEEDOS. OH AND WILLIE MCCREA, A RESPECTED PROTESTANT REVEREND WHO WAS A SUPPORTER OF BILLY WRIGHT AND THE PUP. BILLY WRIGHT, AT THIS TIME, WAS A CONFESSED MURDERER.....WHO BOASTED ABOUT KILLING CATHOLICS. WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT THIS, MCCREA SAID "OH THAT WAS WHEN HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE UVF, NOT THE LVF OR PUP". WRIGHT WAS NEVER SORRY. HE WAS A MURDERER.
hurlinboy 1 year ago
@hurlinboy Priests not only partook in child abuse but also terrorism. Fr Patrick Fell served more than 10 years in an English jail over a conspiracy to cause explosions. Fr James Chesney was a member of the IRA unit that left three 'no warning' bombs in the Co Derry village in July 1972. Nine people including three children were killed.
Priests Burns, Chesney & Fell were all allowed to serve in the Priesthood AFTER those crimes, just like the child abusers were!
GaraGambini 1 year ago
catholic priests molest children, hundreds of them have been caught.... the pope protects them. period.
slade420 1 year ago
unionists and the orange order wont be discrminated against in a united Ireland. Just like southern unionists werent discrimnated against when partion happened.
OBoyle1916 1 year ago
I see you have deleted my comments 51wins. May I ask why?
cthoneill 1 year ago
Catholics are offended because the orangemen and their bands play sectarian songs. These bigots insist on marching through natioanlist areas, instead of just marching through their own areas.
Orange Order - KKK No difference!
cthoneill 1 year ago
Grew up in Ulster and lived in a predominantly protestant estate (Bloomfield/Rathgill). Had catholic friends who used to love watching the 12th parade and hanging out with the rest of us - any questions about that???
down160 1 year ago
this isnt a documentary. its propaganda. wheres the irish rep?
ATVfanatic27 1 year ago
@ATVfanatic27 too busy collecting his unemployemtn check in Stirling from the british government would be my best guess!
down160 1 year ago
You should watch a video "an ode to orangemen"
CONORONEILL 2 years ago
These fucking orange men need put down. I would love 2 put these cock sucking bastards in2 a concentration caMp.
CONORONEILL 2 years ago
Conor you sound like a right prick. As for Bastards DO YOU KNOW WHO YOUR FATHER REALLY IS???? ASK YOUR MA
orangegrover 2 years ago
@orangegrover.....yeah i see my father every day and my mum and dad were married b4 I wz born. Oh yeah my father was responsible for killing 5 RUC members and 3 UDR members.....so fuck you
Tiocfaidh ár lá
Ireland will be free and you know it....IT WILL HAPPEN
CONORONEILL 2 years ago
@CONORONEILL . Thought as much that he was a murdering Bastard.
orangegrover 2 years ago
Naw well it was a war so it doesn't really count. by the way his parents were married when he was born. So I 'd advise you to get ur facts right.
Tiocfaidh ár lá!!
CONORONEILL 2 years ago
@orangegrover you know who are murdering bastards? the british army
cthoneill 1 year ago
at the lad at 2.40 is a complete rancher!!!
cthoneill 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this, sabneal.
orangemanVT 2 years ago
why are they loyal to britain when britain doesnt want them?
TomBarry192I 2 years ago
U.V.F.?
JimmyC1983 2 years ago
Loyalists in general
TomBarry192I 2 years ago
Britain doesn't want Northern Ireland? First i have heard of it haha.....anyways its nothing to do with any other part of the UK e.g. lets say a vote was taken in Wales and they voted No to Northern Ireland being within the UK...nothing will happen there are 4 equal members of the United Kingdom none has more power then the other no matter if England is much bigger then Scotland etc...all are equal
51wins 2 years ago
the majority of people in eng scot and wales dont want you take a hint, your loyal to a technicality
TomBarry192I 2 years ago
can someone tell me why the orangemen march?? If it is purely to celebrate a religious battle 300 years ago surely they can see how this would be offence to catholics?
jaydog89 2 years ago
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AreYouSaved 2 years ago
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AreYouSaved 2 years ago
Catholics dont like it becuase it was a Protestant victory....i have to say the majoirty of Catholics dont mind...but there is some very sad/bitter people in that community.
51wins 2 years ago
how was it a protestant victory when the protestant ascendancy that took power thanks to king billys win persecuted presbyterians as well as catholics?
TomBarry192I 2 years ago
Protestants in Scotland were persecuted by the English Church before the battle that is why many of them moved to Ulster in the first place. King Williams victory was a victory for not only Protestantism in the UK but across Europe from that time on the Catholic Church lost the power to attack and invade Protestant nations.
51wins 2 years ago
Yes thats why they came here, and then were persecuted here by the anglican church and many went to America because of it. This bullshit about King William bringing religious and civil liberties here is a complete myth.
TomBarry192I 2 years ago
Right on!!!
ItsChillyBrrr 2 years ago
Not really, he was a cruel, stupid bigot. He terrorized innocent Catholics.
ItsChillyBrrr 2 years ago
The man he "beat" wasn't a bigot like Fagboy Billy was.
ItsChillyBrrr 2 years ago
lol what a silly uneducated comment. You clearly know nothing about King James.
51wins 2 years ago
Coming from someone like u isn't really an insult. Ur probably some north antrim sheep fucking bastard who thinks ulster scots is a proper language.
CONORONEILL 2 years ago
you couldnt be more wrong, Antrim lol, im not from any majoirty Prod/Unionist area at all. Btw no we dont think Ulster-Scots is a proper language its simply a mixture of Scots and Ulster accents...that is why we aren't looking for any kind of language act!
51wins 2 years ago
Don't think nelson mc causland would agree with you der.
Y are u frm south armagh???
CONORONEILL 2 years ago
@jaydog89 well catholics are offended because the bands play sectarian songs. Instead of keeping to themselves and march in your their own community. But the bigots insist on marching through nationalist areas.
cthoneill 1 year ago
i don't get these people. 'we have nothing against them'. they're celebrating a religious battle that happened over 300 years ago.
Kuabla 2 years ago
all about culture? how many catholic members?
drumnamona 2 years ago
Magna Britannia
brierley2190 2 years ago
Quite a few Catholics are members. NO ROMAN CATHOLICS are members.
TOBERMORE1 2 years ago
How is a Catholic distinguished from a Roman Catholic? Why aren't there any Roman Catholic members?
rivalviral 2 years ago
Roman catholics have an allegiance to ROme and the Pope.
orangegrover 2 years ago
the Orange Order is a Protestant fraternal Organization; just as the Roman Catholics have Knights of Columbus and the Society of St. John the Baptist.
orangemanVT 2 years ago
The Orange Order is simply a Protestant group...only Protestants can join. No different then Catholic groups that the Roman Catholic Church has. Protestants arent allowed to join them becuase their Roman Catholic groups...anyone who cant understand this is thinking to hard haha!
51wins 2 years ago
well let me just point out that billy cousins who played the bass drum in an orange band was responsibile for the murders of a lot of innocent catholics and was involved in the bombing of mc gurks bar in north belfast among the dead were the bar owners children , john gregg who played in an orange flute band was the leader of the u.d.a. in south east antrim who also was convicted of trying to murder the sinn feinn leader gerry adams .need i go on and on and on.?
marketskin 2 years ago
the band`s that march with the orange order are 95% U.V.F. U.D.A. & R.H.C. who murdered catholic`s for decades . and don1t try and say any different . it`s the truth.
marketskin 2 years ago
You can not make such a sweeping statement with out proof. Where is your proof asswipe.
TOBERMORE1 2 years ago
I see you still havent come up with any proof to support your STUPID IDIOTIC statement. Im patiently waiting .........I dont expect any sensible reply from you. WHAT DO U EXPECT FROM A PIG ONLY A GRUNT ;)
TOBERMORE1 2 years ago
It's funny how the OOrder has historically tried to banish Catholicism from the public sphere and now complains about growing secularisation. Are they a religious org or not???
ThinWhiteBuddha09 3 years ago
What exactly is the point of the orange men? what do they do to benifit people besides walk round the place?
AnnoyingBeast 3 years ago
Is preserving ones protestant religion and heritage not a good enough reason for existing!!!!! Marching is only a small part of Orangeism.
TOBERMORE1 3 years ago 2
is going to church and abiding by the rules and laws of god not enough? you dont have have to march to preserve something.
AnnoyingBeast 3 years ago
In reply, I must state that I float a lot of ideas on here, not necessarily saying they are correct, just putting them up for speculation. It does happen that every day I visit the Orange website with a fresh set of ideas about the rationale and its existence. In actuaal fact I could not care less who is blue or green. It just seems that this sectarian problem is a bit like the English Pommies fighting for recognition and no discrimination in N.Z. AND Australia. Seems a similarity.
2367921 3 years ago
You have just exposed your self as the idiot that you are. You say that you "float a lot of ideas, NOT NECESSARILY CORRECT ONES" What are you trying to say ??? Are you saying that you are not to be taken seriously as all of your comments are rubbish coming from you over active mind?? THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK>
ringo8889 3 years ago
As a New Zealander I also have the chance to see things clearly and to avoid mistakes. It just seems that some Orangemen give the Orange lodge a bad name. They get away with abusing people and making provocative remarks. No-one could agree that this is right, not even you surely, what I am attempting to ascertain and cant really establish is why such an organisation still exists. I know that there are many fine people in it, I actually quite like them all, don't really mean everything I say.
2367921 3 years ago
It would not matter how you tried to justify having Orange walks. The rationale in having Orange walks is quite questionable. The resultant effects of the walks is upheavel and there is definite animosity towards other sects particularly Catholics is very obvious. I also feel that the Orange order is a subsidiary of some larger illegal organisation which deals in criminal activities and the Orange walk is just a smokescreen for illegal activities.
2367921 3 years ago
As a New Zealander you seem to have no idea what your talking about. You make a very serious accusation which you must explain "I also feel that the Orange order is a subsidiary of some larger illegal organisation which deals in criminal activities and the Orange walk is just a smokescreen for illegal activities". THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATION TO MAKE. I CHALLENGE YOU TO EXPLAIN YOUR REMARK. PUT UP or SHUT UP.
TOBERMORE1 3 years ago
scum
monsta2679 3 years ago
I bet u used up quite a few brain cells thinking up that comment.Brain dead dick head.
TOBERMORE1 3 years ago
scum
monsta2679 3 years ago
Two comments of 4 letters.WOW. We are dealing with a highly intelligent person.
TOBERMORE1 3 years ago
scum
monsta2679 3 years ago
king billy was a rampant homosexual who salivated over young boys.
this is actually true.
gaelicscots 3 years ago
Great Video! God bless the Orangemen...
BornNew7 3 years ago
Great video..The trurth and nothing but the truth.
If we had the PROPAGANDA that nationalists have we would be in a different position.
I am an orangeman and would love to see cathoilics watch the parades and stop pretending to be offended.
01ovon 3 years ago
Do you even admit that you're Irish?
VanDoodah 3 years ago
Well done Gentlemen. In God Is My Trust.
BADGERBUT 3 years ago
bunch of homos, and losers, go home you huns
hanging1v 3 years ago
We were here before u GO U HOME. I c u like your BRITISH sport>>>>>>CELTIC a british team
TOBERMORE1 3 years ago
Good documentary. It's good see the truth for once.
LiverpoolLoyal1690 4 years ago 2
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whats so great about this video he was a child abuser you loyalists are thick
fenianbrigade 4 years ago
A great video.Keep up all the good work.LOL1689
danblueyes 4 years ago 2
Excellent video. These ignorent teagues no nothing og the cultural traditions of this land.
SirKnight1788 4 years ago
What foolish, stupid, hate-filled bigots. Have you ever seen such a display of ignorance in your life?
Pray for them. These uneducated fools just don't get what humanity is all about.
ChicknDip 4 years ago
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united ireland on the way
garmla 4 years ago