Vitamin B12 Deficiency Is Not Only A Vegan / Vegetarian Problem! Ep311

[LCHFinCanada]

While anyone CAN have a B12 deficiency, and nearly 40% of meat-eaters have a B12 deficiency, studies also show that 50% of vegetarians and an astounding 80% of vegans have a B12 deficiency. (American Journal of Clinical Nutrition)

As such, the chances of a vegan being B12 deficient are 80%. This is why if going vegan you should supplement B12 and also watch other levels like iron, zinc, etc.

And it's not just my opinion- Barnard, Esselstyn, McDougall and every other vegan MD agree.

[esm31854]

I am a meat eater all my life and I have had a B12 deficiency most of my life. Its not only Vegetarians.

[SparkplugSkis]

@esm31854 Same here. Was actually shocked to find out I have it.

[noyouaintgettingit]

My source is Doctor Robert Melamede, biology professor from Colorado University

[doughtyism]

Whoever is listening to you for advice should be shot in the face.

[jujumistress]

@doughtyism - Nobody likes a troll.

[bodeanpye]

meat eaters also can have B12 Deficiency, its not the fact that you eat foods with b12, its the fact that fact that your body is not able to produce/absord it, there are 3 parts in the body with produce b12 including the intestines and the liver, a lot of b12 is in bile of the stomach.

some people just have an a disposition to such things.

I have a mixed diet, including veg meat and deary products,

i have an egg every morning when getting up

and im getting tested for b12.

[allthatisbeautyntrue]

@RawRadiantHealth. I whatever be a vegan or raw vegan with one deficiency than be meateater w/ several vitamin deficiencies, several diseases & disorders. You do the math:-)

It's funny when a tried, overweight, sick looking meateating, eating Little Debbies, ask me, where I get my protein:-)

[allthatisbeautyntrue]

@RawBohemian some meat eaters do have Vit-12 deficiency and many other deficienies.

@everyone, The meat industry will use any loop hole to convince people that they have a phyiscal need for meat. There are people who have not had meat or animal products in 20, 30 yrs & they are healthy w/ no deficiencies. But I know people who have eaten meat all their lives w/ so many deficiencies & health problems.

[LloydChristmas777]

@allthatisbeautyntrue, Absolutely.

[theviker]

I'm on Omerpazole, and though its hard to find out on line, there is a connection between taking gastric blockers and Vitamin D12 low levels. Recently I've been showing signs of V-12 deficiency, though I bring this up with doctors they refuse to admit it .

[marcluc1988]

@theviker This may be a solution: I'm not a doctor or dietician but if your low stomach acid is preventing absorption of Vitamin B12, it MAY be easier to try a sublingual tablet. You put it under your tongue and it is absorbed that way. Whether Ompeprazole affects absorption through this method, I have no idea. The only other (and probably best) solution would be regular B12 shots.

[quitejaded]

@noyouaintgettingit Ok well no one even knows what it is. People just want to smoke pot.

[paulborst]

@CC,

Agree that antibiotics may be a contributing factor to malnutrition in vegans. But the overall incidence and risk of B-12 deficiency is much higher in vegans than in omnivores, the latter suffering mostly from malabsorption and the former not only malaborption but malnutrition as well. Even with chlorella, there is no reliable plant food that contains B-12.

[Grace88Anderson]

hmmm so what is your opinion of birthcontrol pills? I have been on them for years and i am considering stoping them and getting a nonhormone IUD. That could be a cool video topic

[paulborst]

For vegans, it's possible that they have absorption problems, but in addition and more likely it's due to malnutrition, simply because there is not enough. Vegans are at higher risk than the general population for B-12 deficiency. And at this time, there is not a reliable whole food plant source of B-12. Chlorella is the closest. Whole B-12 (not analogues) have been detected in chlorella. But until human trials that show it reduces methylmalonic acid (MMA), t'aint good enough.

[truth2748]

@paulborst "Vegans that eat a variety of fruits and vegetables do not need to worry about any Cobalamin deficiencies". PCRM, WHO, ADA and CDA, AHA, cited.

[paulborst]

@truth2748 "That's not true". Since no fruits or vegetables contain B-12 and since vegans who eat a wide variety of fruits and vegetables have a much higher prevalence and incidence of B-12 deficiency. See Becoming Raw by Davis and Melina for a good summary of vegan B-12 studies.

[truth2748]

@paulborst Okay, we will go ahead and throw away all our studies and start from the beginning.

[paulborst]

@truth2748 No need to do that. The weight of evidence suggests that vegans who do not supplement with Vitamin B-12 have a higher level of deficiency than the general population. See Vegan Health dot org and click on the b-12 link. Every major study comparing vegans who don't supplement with nonvegetarians show the former group to be disproprortionately at risk.

[CompassionateChap]

@paulborst

Really depends on the study and location. One of the biggest reasons for overall b12 deficiency in western cultures is antibiotics, tap water and pesticides which destroy the B12. B12 is just a bacteria...its not an "animal specific" element, and in countries like India in some vegan villages, there is no sign of b12 deficiency. Suggesting they either obtain b12 via plants that havent had the b12 bacteria wiped out by pesticides, OR that these people naturally reproduce b12.

[truth2748]

@paulborst I'm reviewing our studies and I will indeed ask the WHO, ADA and CDA, PCRM, and CDC among other noted experts, to immediately retract their findings because of the Vegan Health (outdated) site and a youtuber who deciphered years of valuable studies and the complex cobalamin function, sigh.

[paulborst]

@truth2748

Where did the CDC, WHO and ADA say that vegetarians who eat a wide variety of fruits and vegetables do not need to worry about B-12 deficiency?

[truth2748]

@paulborst There are over 18 medical reports on B12 deficiency which you download right from their sites. They are however very complex and not for the untrained non-medical faculty. They clearly state(this is common knowledge among our community) that people that consume an animal and plant based diet are more likely to be B12 deficient, not Vegans or Vegetarians. Go ahead and do your own research, this is widely published.

[paulborst]

@truth2748 Can you email me your citations? Everything I have read from Jack Norris at vegan health [.org] and Davis and Melina's "Becoming Raw" indicates exactly the opposite. There is a risk of B-12 deficiency in the general population, usually among the elderly through malabsorption. Yet, every vegan authority I know of from Dr Joel Fuhrman to John McDougall recommends a b-12 supplement or testing. I will be glad to read your citations to see if they support your claims.

[truth2748]

@paulborst Continue. Now regarding Vegans and their need for B12 supplements, this is a new study in which I proudly took part, and now published by Boston and Harvard, excerpts which were also incorporated into Dr. Campbell's China Study, a 35 year endeavor which the WHO is considering accepting as general nutritional practice and as they publish an addendum to their 2010 World nutritional report. I can provide excerpts from my study if you like.

[paulborst]

@truth2748 please wait until the entire study is published and send me the link. Thanks.

[paulborst]

Natasha,

Thanks for your video. There is no question that Vitamin B-12 deficiency is prevalent in the general population, particularly among the elderly. However, it's important to distinguish the source of deficiency which for the general population is usually malabsorption but for vegans is malnutrition. Most omnivores suffering B-12 deficiency are likely to be so because their body cannot absorb the vitamin efficiently rather than because the vitamin is lacking in their food.

[iseeacircle]

this going to sound stupid but i love ur smile it brightens up my day that someone can smile like that.

[abbeyrd3161]

Your hair looks great! Have you used something natural or done anything to it to lighten it so much?

Thanks!

[9carley]

hey natasha :)

i have just had a week of drinking with my friends at QLD.

filled with lots of sugary alcoholic drinks and bad foods. i feel very yuck now and would like to know any extra help or tips you could suggest to help me get right back on track , luv ur videos very much :):)xo

[BurnKilluminati]

I am a non-veg and i have the biggest B12 deficiency!!

[FlypaperGirl]

May ask this, you have big bags under your eyes. Are you insomnia or do you overwork ot maybe do not sleep enough ot maybe you have kidney problems - it just seems to bother me a lot ?

[urbangeek007]

I'm glad you put this up. I was anemic eating a very high meat diet. Now after two years of clean eating I have found what I consumed and how played a big role. The benefits of eating clean are grand. So many ways to resolve the little things like B12 and protien vs all the aweful sickness that comes with a standard American diet. I'm no expert or guru but I feel better.

[latinita1988]

how could you know if you have a b12 deficiency?

[urbangeek007]

@latinita1988 symptoms like anemia is an indication.Blood test and a urine test at your doctors can tell you.

[tattooyu]

I am an omnivore, and I have some digestive issues which require sublingual B-12 to treat!

[thrivesurvive]

Thanks for this great video. What do you think about cultured vegetables for b12? Do the probiotics in raw, fermented food help with absorption? I have a b12 deficiency. I do the shots now, but I also try to eat cultured veggies when I can. I really love your videos and how relaxed and honest you are. Keep them coming. :)

[lemurianchick]

@noyouaintgettingit : You can get all those benefits from turmeric and other foods without altering consciousness and affecting your aura.

[wakeupsheople]

video

[wakeupsheople]

Natasha, being positive is great but, you have to educate yourself on GMO foods. I like to call them Non Foodable Foods or Franken Foods. When you gain some knowledge on the GMO foods please put up a vidoe.

[Cselestyna]

how are your teeth so white?! I WANT YOUR SECRET!!! :D

[kizanko]

@Cselestyna Hmm maybe it is cause she brushes them daily? ;P jk

[mariaperiwinkle]

so fantastically put, natasha!

i hear some raw foodists are getting their B12 from nutritional yeast. i haven't tried it yet because of the MSG rumour

[leafgrrl]

I think I heard something like 35% of Americans are B12 deficient. No one can tell me ALL those people are vegan/vegetarian. I wish!

[thepouchedpotato]

You are mucho beautiful. I have malabsorbsion from my gastric bypass, so i take b12 sublingual. I lost 260ish pounds.

[WishoftheJellyfish]

Interesting topic. Obviously this is health mystery that hasn't been solved. It is true that both vegans and meat-eaters have a deficiency. I believe Natasha is right in that it is a malfunction of the body- it is an absorption problem.

@andrewwilliams76...did it help to eliminate onions and garlic? Did your B12 levels rise? I am curious.

[MelisaPash]

Thanks Natasha for all that you do. I have been a vegan for some time now and don't feel different but actually better than when I ate meat. You are such a vast of info! Thank you so much, Peace and light!

[kamalalovely]

Apa Kabar Natasha!

THANK YOU SO much for addressing this issue... I have a B12 deficiency too. I was a smoker and a long-term anti-biotic user ( for minor acne) in addition to being mostly vegan. I appreciate the fact that you have addressed other issues that may have contributed to the deficiency. Mostly I respect the fact that you pointed out the need to be checked because other vegans with youtube channels have not even brought this up and I think it is so important! Namaste.

[hopesolofan18]

people on a standard american diet are deficiant in many things because they eat processed, toxic food. people who eat a whole foods diet and truly healthy nourishing diet should not have these deficiencies

[Joni48]

just wanted to add something here. I have vitamin B12 deficiency and I am not a vegan. I eat as much raw as I can. But I also eat cooked and eat meat. The main thing in any is variety. Whatever works for you is great. But you need variety. Most of us eat a small variety of food. We need to venture out as much as we can in order to get a wide variety of vitamins and minerals in our diet.

[natureasintended]

Excellent videos Natasha :-)

It's important for everyone to remember that B12 deficiency is common in meat eaters too.

It's great to know that healthy B12 levels can be achieved quickly and easily with a B12 supplement or injections, and can be checked easily with a blood test.

[andrewwilliams76]

After being vegetarian for over 5 years I suffered from a serious B12 deficiency and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Apparently my intestinal flora was unbalanced due to the over use of onions and garlic... Now I don't eat any plants from the onion family.

[jimP71]

Natasha the B12 Bali Babe !!!

[syyenergy7]

One thing that Dr. Bob Beck Phd, said that I definitely observed to be true. He said about 85% of people have an 'inner death wish'. Herein lies the biggest problem and also why the big money medical scammers get away with what they do. People need attention for their problems and have to be fake martyrs. The established pharma feed off this too. You're right, attitude and taking positive action is the real way to go.

[vaw1979]

i dont understand if we cannot get b-12 from nature - then whyyyy do you we need it ... what about wild animals or the mayans who lived to old age? strange

[eatmoreraw]

@vaw1979

B12 deficiency is a symptom of a modern lifestyle; chlorinated water, digestive issues, fat foods, processed and cooked food, spicy food, salt, washing food, transporting food, weed killer, fertilizer and similar chemical farming methods. No wonder those delicate B12 producing microbes don't stand a chance!

[vaw1979]

@eatmoreraw thank you for your reply :) So how can we get it from nature?

[eatmoreraw]

@vaw1979

From, dirt, bacteria, the air we breath, insects and creepy crawlies. That's how animals get it. They don't live in such a sanitised world as ours. If we started eating that way though, most people would become ill due to weak digestive system and weak immune system. Our modern lifestyle again has made us weaklings. If we live in a jungle all our life with perfect food and digestion then any B12 would be utilised so efficiently, it wouldn't be an issue. I pop B12 and D3 pills!

[ebonybeautyful]

Thanks Natasha for clarification on the b12 deficiency! Also to let the people know it is not only vegans/vegetarians that have this deficiency.

[omfgusukbad]

These people should not think so selfishly. Think of the enslavement and enslavement, torture and murder of lesser species. Animals first, health second.

[TheMillyVanilly]

Thank you for making these videos, they really are so helpful and wonderful! Please keep up the amazing work you are doing, you are helping me more than words can ever describe :)) Thank you for being you - lots of love&light to you <3

[mskj444]

It does seem that no matter what diet we follow there are variables in the diet, lifestyles and environment that lead us into deficiencies, which at 'worst' may invest in shortening our lives. Humanity has now evolved into such a separation from the natural states of things, the population of the world is exploding - too much for its resources; maybe the 'imperfection' in any lifestyle is nature's ('nature' including human society and technology) intrinsic insistence on natural selection?

[rainbowsalads]

b12 is in soil , but now we wash or veggies to get the chemicals and muck off , so we all miss out.

[songhug]

smoker check. wheat allergy check. vegetarian check. b12 supplement here i come.

[Necrowitch]

my first raw foodist friend/mentor told me from the start to take b12 supplements. better safe then sorry... I think I agree with him =^-^=

[RawBohemian]

When I was a cooked vegan I got B12 in supplemented foods like the soya margarine I used daily, the soya milk I drank daily ect. But now I am raw I supplement as I no longer eat these processed supplemented foods.

Just to point out; people on a standard meat diet may not be so deficient in B12 but they sure as hell are deficient in a whole other giant list of essential vitamins that processed food and chemical foods cannot provide.

[FlypaperGirl]

@RawBohemian you are mixing all up - meat is not processed food, chinken nuggets are - but that isn't even meat, prossesed food is one undergone some great change - like sugar, and that food is really bad for health cause it was stripped off of anything it contained before that processing

[RawBohemian]

@FlypaperGirl I meant people who are on a Standard America/Western diet, who in general consume a lot of processed foods. I do know the definition of processed.

Most people I know on a standard English diet (like my best friend!), the only meat they eat is processed burgers and processed frozen meat based items. It's all about the convenience apparently.

[FlypaperGirl]

@RawBohemian wow it seems to be a sad place, well it is slowly getting round here but the scale of it isn´t quite as big, even though my friends do eat a lot of crap, but still they prefer normal meals ) home cooked I mean and eat something like burgers only one in a while ' the worst I saw is once a day (and frankly most of the time it was just a bun with poppy seed - not all that bad)

[truth2748]

@RawBohemian Correction. It is common knowledge among medical communities that omnivores are more likely to have a B12 deficiency.

[quitejaded]

@RawBohemian The thing is people on a normal meat diet have the OPTION of eating whole, raw foods. You don't have the option of eating cooked foods. I don't understand how taking supplements make you a raw vegan. Aren't those processed & chemical-y? Wouldn't it be better to just drink your soya milk every few days?

[RawBohemian]

@quitejaded I can't comment now as I stopped eating raw. I now am just your average vegan :P Raw food is great for some people but it is hard to maintain. And I found the food got boring and tasted like shit after a month :P

[CptUnknown]

Whoa! This is where you are incorrect. The MAIN issue with Raw, vegan and/or vegetarian is B-12 deficiency! Always has and always will be. But I do agree find a solution is the key! So far the only solution is to supplement. Sure people can have a typical diet with meat and have a B-12 absorbing issue, but it is typical in old people and failing digestive systems. Don't down play B-12 for it is extremely essential to our existence. Knowledge is strength. Continued below*

[CptUnknown]

@CptUnknown About 50% of your B-12 is stored in your Liver and the rest is in your bile and guts. If you don't consume B-12 as part of your diet your body will consume your storage up to 5 years before you begin to become deficient. If you go deficient you can do irreversible damage to your brain and nervous system.

So please don't down play this. It is a very serious issue with Raw,vegan and vegetarian diet. Like I said before supplement!!!!

[khunopie]

Fish is the best for you. Many eskimos or "inuit" eat a meat only diet! Some have lived on whale only and maintained perfect health. So you vegans and vagitarians listen up and go kill yourself some fish! And smoke dope and drink beer too. Whatever makes you happy :)

[faylinameir]

great vid! bought time someone talked about nonvegan B12 deficiency

[hungrierthanuall]

FIRST! oya