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[matiyasic192]

Shit weld that thing def ain't passing xray. (Me)

[kirstie1234565152652]

1. You grinded off the first weld, I can tell.

2. Try chipping off your slag before you do a restart.

3. You do shit welds homie.

[jimmyg34567]

2.15 you should have taken the slag off before you started another run

[ranger6011]

the arc force should float it out anyway. maybee alaskan oil pipeline jobs require certain welding prcedures but for all practical everyday purposes its preferance. i recently had a woodstove that wieghed 3000lbs and change. had to pick it up so i cut a chainlink in half[3/4 inx4in] and welded the pieces to the side of the stove, downhill w 6011 100 amps and when it was raised and moved by a fork, not nicely iether, the pieces of chain link bent and twisted.the welds were fine.single pass too!

[barrydino]

its nice to see some different techniques. in college i was mostly taught to weld in a triangle formation (point ponting up) for upill, and same for downhill, (point pointing down) and flick it if its too hot.

[theman4130]

It shocks me to see comments on this thread from people who sound like welders but don't know what the FUCK they are talking about. Seriously!

[dvd0505]

Good weld. How about 6013?

[godsmack8807]

why did you hot pass so cold. even on 2 and 3 inch i run about 120 to 130 amps to hot pass. also why didnt you use a step pattern. im just being curious not critzing so any one who says i need to learn to weld can bite me cause i aint flunked and x-ray.

[godsmack8807]

why did you hot pass so cold. even on 2 and 3 inch i run about 120 to 130 amps to hot pass.

[dedokor]

I' not sure that you know what are you doing - honestly. Did you made some NDT for this weld? Lack of fusion in the left side of the joint, two-three nice pores in the middle of the weld length? :) And why, the hell, with 6010?

[jedediahbc]

I've been pipe welding for 35 years and welded up hill the whole time. It looks like your doing down hill stringers, any time I went and re-certified on a new job they always instructed me to do all up hill welding no down hill stringers they would throw you off a union job for that.

[godsmack8807]

@jedediahbc you must weld for conoco philips cause their test is LH stringer hotpass and cap for pipe any ways their structural test is 8" both in the 6g

[beast36001]

@jedediahbc thats great dad, but maybe he wants to show downhill, ever took a pipeline test?

you know not all pipe tests are all uphill, some mig, fluxcore,,

with the union shit,they would tell you to go wether it was non union too!! dumbass for saying that

think after 35 yrs you would know your shit

[BIGJOHN3975]

hey micheal was size land was used i hear that when u run the root just to have the amps set hot enough so were it will weld but not get stuck is that all ways r depending on pipe size an answer asap would be appreciated thank you if any one else can give some insight ive been asking around on here thanks guys

[steamfitter2010]

On gas line 6010 downhill is required in most places on the other hand pipe welds in the maint. and chemical industry are uphill 6010 root 7018 fill and cap I have worked both types welding a gas line up hill will get you out the gate quick and downhill a steam line will get you out the gate quick for home welds uphill is safer but harder with a lower risk of trapped slag sorry to say two different schools and both are right

[TheJimineycricket]

Dont use tips from this guy, welding downhill like this should NOT be done.

[youlosesucka420]

@TheJimineycricket dude really it depends on preference, like almost everything in welding. there's not a ONE way to do things, there's multiple way to get the product, and if you are such a pro to give advice, why are you on a beginner's video. I'm here, because I just started stick welding, but have been around it my entire life, and have learned a thing or two, especially that opinion and preference, are some of the biggest factors.

[TheRabidPosum]

@youlosesucka420 it depends on preference if you want to be a junk yard welder. Your never going to see this in the field, TheJimineycricket and others know what their talking about. Downhill is fast and easy and produces a shit weld, and is STRICTLY FORBIDEN in my union and I imagine every other local in the UA in the US and Canada. You'll get brought up on charges and have to go before the board. This isn't basic learning, it's hack shit.

[ibanezshredder1986]

@youlosesucka420 true!! soooo true! I agree with you that about 70% of the industry is based on "school of thought" or "preference" however, I feel that the thing that people who are stil really green struggle with is identifying the things that everybody understands to be the same, and the things that are based on preference. there are some factors that are open ended, and some that are written in stone.

[CALI2TEXBOY]

@TheJimineycricket depending on how the camara was positioned you dont know weather its uphill or downhill. the camara might be facing donwards and this might like be a flat weld on top of the pipe....

[jedediahbc]

@CALI2TEXBOY That was a downhill stringer you can tell by the way he is going back when it gets hot trying to keep the weld from running.

[CALI2TEXBOY]

@jedediahbc are u sure cus @ 33 seconds he slide the plate like if its laying down flat on a table. and i down welded before just messing around to see if it looks better like they say and i remember the weld was running faster than that????

[totallysick88able]

how big is your root opening? and why did you weld down? i like to weld UP at about 80 amps then cover pass with 75

[BIGJOHN3975]

@totallysick88able hey what size is your landing and gap when you running it up and u gap all pipe sizes the same land and all just learning and want learn some good techniques thanks

[plumberdallas]

thers some slag intrapement in ther if you are runnin 7018

[mikegb33]

u never weld downhill...no penetration all your doin is layin the weld on the metal...

[2000ULTRA]

Give the guy a break. He didn't say it was going to pass x-ray. I think he is just giving the basics for people who aren't welders but are interested in how it's done.

Just my opinion , thanks.

[Ahmose1500BC]

I would ran that Hotpass at 97 - 110 amps with 6010 1/8

[Ahmose1500BC]

Downhill is Gravy .... Nuff Said'



[MKsalesdirect]

Your stick is all over the place! Looks like you've been smoking weed before you made this video! If you sat a test for a pipeline job I think they would hit you over the head with a ball peen hammer lol......!

[Nza420]

wow! your welder has one hell of a duty cycle! I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure my Lincoln 225 welder would be on fire after that..

[kurtlanciano]

ewwwwo

[kajunking37]

You can teach a monkey how to weld downhand run a coupon uphill then post it. Then you'll be doing something.

[jofus465231]

Why the hell are you trying to teach peoople how weld? #1 NO contractor is going to hire if you take a test and start downhilling. your going to get laughed out of the shop.#2 any welder knows that you dont downhill anything...all your doing is making a dirty weld. which will not pass a bend test or x ray. You will get laughed out of the shop because you aobviously dont know hat the hell you are doing.You could teach the basics... like how NOT to weld< and how to put a rod in the stinger.

[lochart12]

@jofus465231 maybe you should do more research before you post.......... pipeline welding is down hand and it passes xray infact i seen 120 down hand welds pass xray yesterday and before the job started all the welders did a job test and the test welds were all downhand and i never noticed anyone laughing at them

[1998bhdawn]

@lochart12 your absolutly correct, the pipeliners weld downhill & pass x-ray. as far as being laughed at there the ones laughing, all the way to the bank!!

[1998bhdawn]

@jofus465231 you must be a mig shop welder, you downhill on the pipeline and it passes x-ray .

[p2thumper07]

Def 6010, way too loud and too high splatter ro be 7018

[quincyoil]

what kind of hack outfit's have you worked for welding like that.

[meatASC]

this video is a joke. uphill 6010 route uphill 7018 fill uphill 7018 cap. nice and clean. this is a sloppy improper mess going on right here.

[1998bhdawn]

@meatASC on the pipeline you downhill route and covers.

[cooter90212]

Mdtread why u are u so lazy-chip ur slag! Anyone can run downhill and this guy still manages to screw it up. If u dont understand pipe why are u teaching it? Then u rush the puddle when its not needed? Pressure pipe it IS welded uphill. So why are u telling people you'll get fired for running uphill? That is a lie!! Post a video without you burning thru and cutting the camera before u remove the slag. You know your welds look like shit.

[cooter90212]

Welders Lens-Mdtread is a SCAM and LIAR. My buddy (Jeff) made the MISTAKE of buying dvd's from this guy. w/o knowing the difference of good or bad pipe weld processes These are BAD!!! without a doubt.

1st thing Jeff found out is there is NO REFUNDS!! Everyone else has some kind of refund policy.

2nd Mtread is not working as a pipe welder- reason is his welds could not pass any xrays.Go back to school and stop SCAMMING people out of money who dont know better.

[alaskaracer]

fuck 6010 i got a LINCOLN STT MIG welder

[1998bhdawn]

@alaskaracer try useing that mig in the harsh weather out on the pipeline, thats why they use 6010, mig is for beginners

[alaskaracer]

looks like 6010 and i dont think that is what your supposed to cap your weld with 7018 uphill vert would be would be better

better yet man up and get some good 0.45 lincoln dual shield set to 26 v and 500 ips and go to town

[shanedj69]

vertical runs should start at the bottom, working from top to bottom doesnt give as much penitration, i doubt this would pass a bend test, and you will have alot of slag trap.

[1998bhdawn]

@shanedj69 it would with the 6010 with gap, thats all they weld with on the pipeline 6010,8010. and they do it downhill (its x-rayed).

[cooter90212]

Is he certified as a pipe welder? I doubt it he has no clue!!! Buyer beware dont buy from this guy!!!!!

has this guy ever had his welds x-ray'd? I doubt it would pass a bend test.

Hes going to have slag inclusions all over.

[alaskaracer]

@cooter90212 plus the weld is gonna have high diffusable hydrogen thats why they run 7018 to cap

[mdowning77]

everyones a fucking pro. shut up already.

[greatwelder]

not a bad video at least he's trying! whiners

[dunn893]

SLAG INCLUSION!

[dunn893]

WOOL WELDING HAHAHHAHA wat a dun ASS

[zhp69]

pretty good for a 6010

i usualy use a lower amps like around 75 or so, so that the spatter wont get all over the place, but good job

[stockedmuscle]

what amperage are you using

[mdtread]

90 amps or so

[MikeMikey222]

Did you ground the piece of metal that you were welding on? I've never heard of something that was MIG welded just falling apart out of nothing.

[elvinsg]

hey dont give up look for a 4 - 7 welding course (basic) that will help u alot its easy when u have a guy going over it next to you showing you helps alot but never give up only if u reallly realllly suck if ur from the UK i can give u sum website u should try

[mdtread]

This is not 7018. It is 6010.

[SthealthRaider]

What amp u used? and mm electrode

[GGGG760]

you had it o high dont return it migs are easer to use then stick welder

[dncristian]

esta mal porke no ascendente?

[mdtread]

It is probably less than 3/32. I have some metal banding material I use. I doubled a piece of it and tacked it together. The piece is probably 14 inches long by about 1 1/4" wide.

The gap is smaller than 3/32. In this video I was using a 1/8" rod. You could still use the same gap with a 5/32 rod if you crank up your heat or open the gap slightly and lower the amps. The amps on this video was about 90 to 95 on the root and then I came down on the hot pass and cap

[Rednostalgia]

hey when you weld a downhill root, do u usually use a 3/32 land, 3/32 gap and a 1/8th rod? what heat amperage do u usually run the root in at?

[mdtread]

If you weld uphill in the oilfield or pipeline, you are gone immediately. Downhill is so much faster. That is why

[smokin30420]

downhill is faster... uphill gives better penatration but freddys rite they will pull certs in the powerhouse for welding uphill..UA521

[swordsman2070]

@mdtread i would rather do up hill because it ties in better and ill tell them its a saftey issue i would raither do a job right insted of cause several probloms

[hiimrickay]

@mdtread you get way more penetration going up thogh

[mdtread]

6010 5p+++++ is special enough.

When you work in the oil field they don't care about special.LOL!!

[robreex]

shoudnt  you be using a special rod for a downhill process

[mdtread]

yes with 6010 or 8010

[mdtread]

I have no idea.

[dezttripador]

are you welding downhill?

[Sumermagor]

hi how much amps would i need aprox for a 2.5 mil electrode? i want it melt but i dont want to make a hole in my 1 milimeter sheet,

[bozzza69]

stick at the stuff for 1mil u shud be looking at tig or maybe mig depends if ur gonna grind it flush or leave weld if ur leaving it go tig

[mdtread]

Yes sir. Lets see your video rolling out a spool peice with one hand a camera in your face and welding with the other hand

LOL

[Sheeanmcguire]

Are you certified lol.

[mdtread]

Thanks for your kind comment.

[muckdiver]

thanx for the vid and i`m going to visit your site. i`m currently studying smaw and hope to upgrade soon again thanx for the vid good day everyone ;)

[mdtread]

I don't believe I took a shot of the inside root on this one.

The rod is a cellulose electrode. Great stability and a thin slag coating with minor spatter.

[aenima115]

wait this is cellulose electrode yeh?

[aenima115]

i wanna see the penetration.

[mdtread]

These shots are all filmed with 1/8" either 8010 or 6010.

I don't know if you visited my website but I have some full packages put together on 4 welding processes concerning pipe and you can also receive a complimentary gift when signing up. Leaving your contact also allows me to keep you posted when I do something. Not everything is broadcast to youtube.

[luigi5054]

Just out of curiosity, what size of rod are you using here? I don't think i caught that... I work for a company that installs steam boilers and all of our piping over 2" has to be welded. Most of the time we use 6010 rods at 5/64" or 3/32". Amperage of course depends on the size and thickness of the pipe as well. Once again, just curious...

[mdtread]

Are you serious. I know how to weld uphill.

This is done like this for a reason, not because I don't know how to weld uphill.

Thanks anyway.

[jobbly1234]

well welding downhill shudnt be done really unless your doing cabinet work where you want to keep the heat off the metal as much as possible but when your doing a weld like this it should really bu up. and the reason it seams easier with having your amps higher is beceause it is eaasier try practising on thin stuff with low amps then the thick stuff comes easy my work mate is 62 and he learned stick on 1.6mm and hes brilliant. just give it a shot

[Sheeanmcguire]

How come you didnt clean the weld before going again? Doesnt that cause imperfections?

[LiamLiddel]

good day! can i ask whats the difference in having penetration in 5g using vertical up and vertical down. what are the advantages of this two techniques?

im a student of welding

hope to hear your reply..

[mdtread]

What are you, some kind of welding inspector or something? Why don't you start your own course and leave mine alone if you don't like the way I do things. 80-85 is actually cold for how I weld, but that is the beauty of welding. There are more ways to skin a cat then just yours and mine.

[market061]

I agree 80-85 is cold for me to i like to stick with 90-100 amps.I just started so i might have the wrong idea but to me it feels easier to weld.

[zoomspeed420]

archerofdoom for a 6010 on this particular material you should be burnin at around 80-85 it all depends on thickness of material

[zoomspeed420]

let them all know its 5G as well

[zoomspeed420]

would you stop callin it meat you sound so uneducated its called penetration stick with it

[mdtread]

I am moving slow but not as slow as you may think.I wasn't worried about suckback because I left enough meat on the interior. Good point though.

[mdtread]

Hey vegasdollas69 I am running 6010 5p+ on the downhill and the pipe was schedule 40 4"

[vegasdollas69]

Wut rod runnin in this video nd wut thickness?

[ep82dan]

as regards to what amps we would need to know a few more things mate what material you are useing and also what position you are welding as in downhand/vertical up ect

[ep82dan]

would maybe be worth putting a shade 10-12 on camera next time so that the viewers can see in more detail as watching the weld pool develop is the most crutiol part great line of vids mate keep up the good work

danny

[archerofdoom]

how many amps should you put for a 6010 electrode??