Sorry but i'm on the other side for this the side of the bible... marriage should be between one man and one women. Not trying to say being gay is wrong or anything like that just that I don't agree with this. I don't have any problem with the people though.
Not only are NOM's points false, fear-mongering and rubbish, but has anyone noticed that opponents' reasoning for not allowing same sex marriage has changed from just a few years ago? NOM tends to avoid religion (which is frankly really nice for a change) But why? Because they realize that it has no merit anymore- not in the big picture. It's too bad their NEW reasoning sucks shit even more then their old reasoning.
I love the "defending marriage" excuse. Yes, defend your marriage by stopping other people from getting married. That's like saying.. well.. I actually can't think of anything more obviously ridiculous. It is a parody of itself.
You attack us and our culture, and call us bigots? If you respected us at all, you would understand our stance. Why must we debate, when all your doing is hating We are all acting like little kids in the playground throwing rocks at each other. You throw a rock, and you expect it to be thrown back. Maybe we don't want to fuel your cause with hate. Sure there are a group of us that have and are, but not all of us
You misunderstand us, yet you throw mountains at us to get us to react.
why don't you? i am a christain asexual treansgender who believes that many people are going to hell and most of the people on this earth are going to hell, including so-called religious people. you need to learn love and acceptance or you will be forced to. both heaven and hell have gays, blacks, Hispanics, whites and all religions in it. so if you do not accept them now, you will in hell.
Every group is offended for one reason or another. You have civil unions give it a rest. The world is facing far greater trouble and mankind may not survive. Put it in perspective and lets begin to solve the problems that truly matter.
It is not as though society as a whole is incapable of addressing more than one social issue. It seems these days that that is all that society is comprised of.
Really, suggesting that an issue is any less important because other issues are more important is illogical.
Illogical?, it is totally logical to prioritize issues on the bases of importance or the survival of mankind. This issue is very low on the list. Yes, it goes towards human happiness and that matters but we need to focus on saving our species.
Between the gay rights activists and the right wing religious whack jobs we have lost focus. That is my point. Who you have sex with is a private matter and should stay that way. It will not matter who you're boinking if you dont have a planet to be boinking on.
civil rights can't wait any longer. the mormons started this in california with prop 8. They were the ones that raised and spent all of the money. We aren't going to quit now. This is a problem that really matters to a lot of people, maybe not you, that's all.
The majority of the country supports gay marriage according to the recent polls.
Tell me how many issues of equality over the past century have been passed by a majority vote? The courts have ALWAYS been the ones who have passed the measures for equality and America adapts. This country has a history of the "majority" being against equality, which is why Thomas Jefferson writes that the "rights of the minority should never be left to a majority vote". This is why we have the "lawmakers" decide.
Hate is intense dislike. I do not feel that way about gays as people. I disagree with the gay militants trying to redefine
the ancient and time tested institute of marriage. I am also offended by the treatment of Carrie Prejean. When you attack Carrie you attack many,many Americans. If you want to experience real hate look at some of the videos here on youtube that attack Carrie. I never even knew of her
I am gay and I also disagree with attacking her. However it IS laughable that everyone who uses the No Offense argument doesn't understand that when you attempt to deny a legally joined couple hundreds and hundreds of legal protections, it is anything BUT an inoffense to their relationship and to them as people.
Lots of things are "ancient" and "time tested". But as we grow more educated as a society, we learn about new ideas that can be integrated without a negative societal impact.
Now don't get me wrong. I don't feel that Carrie should be persecuted, in fact, I kinda wish we didn't have to hear so much about her anymore. It doesn't matter to me what her beliefs on gay marriage are. However in regards to the noma's ideal that they are simply only "defending marriage", the problem is here...
If gay marriage is granted, no one "loses" anything. Not legally. It will not (and should not) force religions to accept it.
If gay marriage is denied however, gay couples are denied over 1100 privileges/benefits, leaving them legally vulnerable. Your partner dies? A family member can take your children, and thats after the fact that you might not be able to be in the hospital room when they die.
If the house was in the partners name, guess what? The will can be contested...the surviving partner can lose their home...
See what I mean? The other side has nothing to lose, we however, have ALOT to lose...
Yeah I remember the old days when people were enslaving and killing gays and washing them down the streets with firehoses for protesting. You black people- I mean, gay people- make a good point. If only we can also convince black people that their Holy Book is nonsense, we could really effect change. Marriage by definition is the union of opposites. Go for rewriting the dictionary too for such a worthy cause of polygamous, non-procreative marriage, we have a world to progress into the dirt.
I like videos like this that make good points without getting in the gutter like one video did by saying I hope Carrie gets cancer. You did us proud guy!!!
I think she's guilty of being a bigot. Now she's speaking at any venue against gay marriage. My point is I don't like some of the other videos that were done that didn't represent the gay community well and I think this one does.
You aren't serious are you? If you can see the intention you'll understand that the message is that it shouldn't be about a law that determines who can have rights.....
LMFAO thats such bullshit and let me guess your going to say your a saint? ooo wait wait i got one, the time you spent typing that comment could have been used to pick up trash to better the enviroment? douchebag she has the right to get rubber tits if she wants
yes but she also is going against her bible by prancing around in a bathing suit and using her body to win a prize. if we are not mistaken in biblical times you are put to death for such an offense. so the enhancement in her chest obviously didn't enhance her intellect.
Just because it's in the bible does not mean you have to follow it, hell I probly only believe in 70% of the bible and im a christian Anyways I have a question for you. If all states supported civil union, one which gave the same rights of marriage to gay couples,would you accept that? I believe alot of people including myself have no problem with civil union but when it comes to the word marriage, we want it to mean man and woman, civil union if fine just dont change the difinition of marriage.
What is in a word? Why does it bother you so much if my relationship is a marriage? To us this is about EQUAL rights. Separate is not equal. Getting all the rights without the name is like going to a Neiman Marcus store and buying an Armani suit or Prada bag without the label. We deserve the same label. Ask yourself why you dont want us to use the term Marriage? It allows for discrimination when a different name is used. We can be separated out then. When everyone uses the same name it's EQUAL!
So what in the word marriage for you? If marriage gets the gets the thought " o well what's in a word anyways" then whats the problem with the word civil union? Im for equal rights and i want homosexuals to have the same rights as straights. You say discrimination but realisticly, that's not ever going to change. To me and many others, marriage is a really powerful word that has a powerful meaning. so yes, equal rights to homosexuals on the same par as married couples but with a different word.
"And it came to pass, when he [David] had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul . . . And Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul."
And immediately afterward, Jonathan DISROBED before David:
Equal protection and all the benefits, rights and privileges that are bestowed upon some couples should not be put to a vote, so it doesn't matter how people vote. People will always vote for inequality, and like desegregation or interracial marriage, justice will set things right again.
Thanks for the great feedback! Please send this to everyone you know that is a supporter of equal rights. We can get great national coverage with everyones input by video! Let's make a huge statement!
Sorry but i'm on the other side for this the side of the bible... marriage should be between one man and one women. Not trying to say being gay is wrong or anything like that just that I don't agree with this. I don't have any problem with the people though.
theheartyaerie 3 weeks ago
This guy is a bigot and the comparison between racial discrimination and pandering to a group of sexual deviants is odious.
He needs to realise that We The People don't want to redefine marriage for homosexuals and that is that.
garysher3 1 year ago
Awesome job! Keep up the great work!
purplepostit6 2 years ago
Not only are NOM's points false, fear-mongering and rubbish, but has anyone noticed that opponents' reasoning for not allowing same sex marriage has changed from just a few years ago? NOM tends to avoid religion (which is frankly really nice for a change) But why? Because they realize that it has no merit anymore- not in the big picture. It's too bad their NEW reasoning sucks shit even more then their old reasoning.
TannerFehr 2 years ago 3
I love the "defending marriage" excuse. Yes, defend your marriage by stopping other people from getting married. That's like saying.. well.. I actually can't think of anything more obviously ridiculous. It is a parody of itself.
Flyborg 2 years ago
You attack us and our culture, and call us bigots? If you respected us at all, you would understand our stance. Why must we debate, when all your doing is hating We are all acting like little kids in the playground throwing rocks at each other. You throw a rock, and you expect it to be thrown back. Maybe we don't want to fuel your cause with hate. Sure there are a group of us that have and are, but not all of us
You misunderstand us, yet you throw mountains at us to get us to react.
newdav 2 years ago
go suck a dick
TheArtisticman 2 years ago
Go and learn about love.
pippipop1337 2 years ago 2
why don't you? i am a christain asexual treansgender who believes that many people are going to hell and most of the people on this earth are going to hell, including so-called religious people. you need to learn love and acceptance or you will be forced to. both heaven and hell have gays, blacks, Hispanics, whites and all religions in it. so if you do not accept them now, you will in hell.
theREALiceveela 2 years ago
Offense Taken!!!!!!!! sorry i cant do a video hun. but yes all the way Offense Taken.
lezgirlbrit4 2 years ago
Caption your videos please.
Jamesalanrae 2 years ago
Every group is offended for one reason or another. You have civil unions give it a rest. The world is facing far greater trouble and mankind may not survive. Put it in perspective and lets begin to solve the problems that truly matter.
DoubtingThomas666 2 years ago
It is not as though society as a whole is incapable of addressing more than one social issue. It seems these days that that is all that society is comprised of.
Really, suggesting that an issue is any less important because other issues are more important is illogical.
andy9306 2 years ago
Illogical?, it is totally logical to prioritize issues on the bases of importance or the survival of mankind. This issue is very low on the list. Yes, it goes towards human happiness and that matters but we need to focus on saving our species.
DoubtingThomas666 2 years ago
I never claimed that that is behaviour that we shouldn't practice.
My claim was that the fact that there are more vital issues does not make any issues less vital than those any more less vital.
Each issue is as important as it is, and it is so based on its own merits.
Really though, it is not as though we can''t be resolving more than one of them at a time.
andy9306 2 years ago
Between the gay rights activists and the right wing religious whack jobs we have lost focus. That is my point. Who you have sex with is a private matter and should stay that way. It will not matter who you're boinking if you dont have a planet to be boinking on.
DoubtingThomas666 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Gays have no rights, they are misfits and deserve nothing.
TheArtisticman 2 years ago
:p what would u say if people sad so about your sexuality ?
pippipop1337 2 years ago
why?
mootothehood 2 years ago
so you are fit? do you deserve anything? you are a whackjob that deserves nothing. if we deserved to live there would be no death.
theREALiceveela 2 years ago
I actually feel bad for you. Only the stupidest person on earth would actually believe/say that.
degeorgetitanic 2 years ago
civil rights can't wait any longer. the mormons started this in california with prop 8. They were the ones that raised and spent all of the money. We aren't going to quit now. This is a problem that really matters to a lot of people, maybe not you, that's all.
quasibeth 2 years ago
Mormons are fools. The mormon faith is closer to Scientology then Christianity, space aliens and all that. How can they be trusted on any issue?
Lotus4115 2 years ago 4
Just passing by again, as a friend to say thank you again for your excellent work and response.
Small world, big and fast changes for good.
Diversity is the basis of Humankind, you just teach to remember. And it works all over the planet.
Peace, Fernando.
Argentina.
fergalli 2 years ago
The majority of the country supports gay marriage according to the recent polls.
Tell me how many issues of equality over the past century have been passed by a majority vote? The courts have ALWAYS been the ones who have passed the measures for equality and America adapts. This country has a history of the "majority" being against equality, which is why Thomas Jefferson writes that the "rights of the minority should never be left to a majority vote". This is why we have the "lawmakers" decide.
Xenabuffyfan 2 years ago
Bwahhaha? Really? Are you living in a Saturday Morning cartoon?
Xenabuffyfan 2 years ago
Hey, good news in New York!, I´ve seen the new video about Hollywood stars supporting same sex marriage.
New York is teaching Human and Civil Rights to the world too.
Congratulations!
Peace and love from Argentina.-
fergalli 2 years ago
our tactics are working very well actually.
why do you think prop 8 passed ?
enough said LOSER.
SUCK EGGS we won and the weirdos lost out BIG TIME!!!!!
DEAL WITH IT PRINCESS
howcouldyoubeGAY 2 years ago
So your tactics are lies and misinformation? Interesting. Because that is exactly how Prop 8 passed.
Oh yeah, and plenty of other states are PASSING gay marriage, so enjoy Prop 8 while you can. Because it looks like we are actually winning sweety.
Xenabuffyfan 2 years ago
you can take offense
hell you can even take the gate.
the difference between an interracial marriage and a same sex marriage,is one is skin color,and the other is a man fucking another mans anus!
BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE DONT YOU THINK ??
HEY ? HEY ?
OH YEAH! BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE DICKHEAD.
TAKE ALL THE OFFENSE YOU WANT, IT WONT CHANGE ANYTHING.
howcouldyoubeGAY 2 years ago
and you deserve special priveleges because you fuck cunt?
dmitriygm 2 years ago
Does this argument have anything to do with love?
Hate is intense dislike. I do not feel that way about gays as people. I disagree with the gay militants trying to redefine
the ancient and time tested institute of marriage. I am also offended by the treatment of Carrie Prejean. When you attack Carrie you attack many,many Americans. If you want to experience real hate look at some of the videos here on youtube that attack Carrie. I never even knew of her
until the gay militants attacked her.
pignut 2 years ago
I am gay and I also disagree with attacking her. However it IS laughable that everyone who uses the No Offense argument doesn't understand that when you attempt to deny a legally joined couple hundreds and hundreds of legal protections, it is anything BUT an inoffense to their relationship and to them as people.
Lots of things are "ancient" and "time tested". But as we grow more educated as a society, we learn about new ideas that can be integrated without a negative societal impact.
Xenabuffyfan 2 years ago 2
Now don't get me wrong. I don't feel that Carrie should be persecuted, in fact, I kinda wish we didn't have to hear so much about her anymore. It doesn't matter to me what her beliefs on gay marriage are. However in regards to the noma's ideal that they are simply only "defending marriage", the problem is here...
If gay marriage is granted, no one "loses" anything. Not legally. It will not (and should not) force religions to accept it.
CONTINUED
Xenabuffyfan 2 years ago 2
Continued
If gay marriage is denied however, gay couples are denied over 1100 privileges/benefits, leaving them legally vulnerable. Your partner dies? A family member can take your children, and thats after the fact that you might not be able to be in the hospital room when they die.
If the house was in the partners name, guess what? The will can be contested...the surviving partner can lose their home...
See what I mean? The other side has nothing to lose, we however, have ALOT to lose...
Xenabuffyfan 2 years ago 2
MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL! SAVING MARRIAGE FOR MAN AND WOMAN FOR WHAT??? LOL TO LATE FOR THAT.
The divorce rate in America for first marriage IS 50%67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce!
United States COME IN 7~TH PLACE FOR HIGH divorce rate IN THE WORLD OUT OF 46 Country's it's kinda to late to defend marriages .
dodokenny4 2 years ago
Flagged for getting my son aroused
vsboy25sdad 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I support Carrie Prejean and I was not offended by her comments.
pignut 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I support Carrie Prejean and I was not offended.
pignut 2 years ago
Yeah I remember the old days when people were enslaving and killing gays and washing them down the streets with firehoses for protesting. You black people- I mean, gay people- make a good point. If only we can also convince black people that their Holy Book is nonsense, we could really effect change. Marriage by definition is the union of opposites. Go for rewriting the dictionary too for such a worthy cause of polygamous, non-procreative marriage, we have a world to progress into the dirt.
nxs900 2 years ago
Great video thanks for making this video
depfox 2 years ago
Fear, that's their tactic. That's what religious based arguments are about, letting fear prevent you from understanding reality.
Anyway, great vid and don't worry, you guys will make it. It's just going to take patience.
Shaggy6386 2 years ago
EXCELLENT MY BROTHER!!!!
pjasher 2 years ago
Well said !!!
milisemou 2 years ago
Well spoken.
PeterOrszagCallMe 2 years ago
Good reply! This is a great idea to have everyone make their own "Offence Taken" video. Hope to see more of them.
RCSVirginia 2 years ago
Yep!, excellent work.
My response keeps on 304 views since yesterday, but points keep growing.
I know there are more and more views...
...would be that some kind of attack from the NOM cyborgs?
fergalli 2 years ago
If this is suppose to be the way then why are there two genders?
There are cases in nature where there is one gender and the off spring are clones.
There are natural hermaphrodites(spiders,slugs.ect)
This takes place in the human species but
why do two genders continue?Will one someday be phased out?
lionsstare 2 years ago
why do some heterosexuals choose to not have children?
and still be treated fairly under the law
dmitriygm 2 years ago
Well when it comes to the I.R.S. they are not treated equally and their families don't treat them equally."I want grandchildern!"
lionsstare 2 years ago
there is nothing more offensive than the words that come after the phrase,"No offense".
blackmetalqueer 2 years ago
a marriage should be between a man and his conscience , no women and no men , we are so lost . we are arguing over who illicits the happy ending
jvforever72 2 years ago
I like videos like this that make good points without getting in the gutter like one video did by saying I hope Carrie gets cancer. You did us proud guy!!!
BrandonAHjr 2 years ago
I totally agree Brandon.
She is not guilty, it´s just the way she was programmed to think.
She is a beautiful girl but she must learn to be carefull about the things she say in order to open people´s minds.
Peace!
Fernando.-
fergalli 2 years ago
I think she's guilty of being a bigot. Now she's speaking at any venue against gay marriage. My point is I don't like some of the other videos that were done that didn't represent the gay community well and I think this one does.
BrandonAHjr 2 years ago
"Love, Not Laws" are you guys anarchists?
anthonzi 2 years ago
You aren't serious are you? If you can see the intention you'll understand that the message is that it shouldn't be about a law that determines who can have rights.....
lovenotlaws 2 years ago
"I believe that same sex marriage should be between a man and a woman."
-Arnold Swarznegger.
hairyreasoner 2 years ago 5
And? He's a politician. Plus he supports us believe it or not.
lovenotlaws 2 years ago
Perhaps you misunderstand me. I've posted a video respnse. I hope it clarifies things.
hairyreasoner 2 years ago
You missed the funny. Read the quote again. Hint: "same sex" = "man and woman"?
dave28lax 2 years ago
Carrie Prejean spent a whole lot of money on FAKE RUBBER TITS that could have been spent on food for the hungry, or text books, or medical supplies.
Offense taken.
GeorgeWTush 2 years ago 3
RIGHT!
lovenotlaws 2 years ago
LMFAO thats such bullshit and let me guess your going to say your a saint? ooo wait wait i got one, the time you spent typing that comment could have been used to pick up trash to better the enviroment? douchebag she has the right to get rubber tits if she wants
JSauer07 2 years ago
yes but she also is going against her bible by prancing around in a bathing suit and using her body to win a prize. if we are not mistaken in biblical times you are put to death for such an offense. so the enhancement in her chest obviously didn't enhance her intellect.
lovenotlaws 2 years ago
Just because it's in the bible does not mean you have to follow it, hell I probly only believe in 70% of the bible and im a christian Anyways I have a question for you. If all states supported civil union, one which gave the same rights of marriage to gay couples,would you accept that? I believe alot of people including myself have no problem with civil union but when it comes to the word marriage, we want it to mean man and woman, civil union if fine just dont change the difinition of marriage.
JSauer07 2 years ago
What is in a word? Why does it bother you so much if my relationship is a marriage? To us this is about EQUAL rights. Separate is not equal. Getting all the rights without the name is like going to a Neiman Marcus store and buying an Armani suit or Prada bag without the label. We deserve the same label. Ask yourself why you dont want us to use the term Marriage? It allows for discrimination when a different name is used. We can be separated out then. When everyone uses the same name it's EQUAL!
neenerpuss 2 years ago
So what in the word marriage for you? If marriage gets the gets the thought " o well what's in a word anyways" then whats the problem with the word civil union? Im for equal rights and i want homosexuals to have the same rights as straights. You say discrimination but realisticly, that's not ever going to change. To me and many others, marriage is a really powerful word that has a powerful meaning. so yes, equal rights to homosexuals on the same par as married couples but with a different word.
JSauer07 2 years ago
What part of EQUALITY dont you understand?
MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL!
neenerpuss 2 years ago
Marriage is too sacred to limit it to just a man and a woman.
Marriage belongs to every one no matter what their sexual orientation.
boony68 2 years ago 2
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1 Samuel 18:1,3
"And it came to pass, when he [David] had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul . . . And Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul."
And immediately afterward, Jonathan DISROBED before David:
How often do you get naked with your friends?
Sounds like a gay marriage to me.
MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL!
neenerpuss 2 years ago
keyword=covenant, not marriage.
p.s streaking is fun lol
JSauer07 2 years ago
Equal protection and all the benefits, rights and privileges that are bestowed upon some couples should not be put to a vote, so it doesn't matter how people vote. People will always vote for inequality, and like desegregation or interracial marriage, justice will set things right again.
adamantsun 2 years ago
I agree. But now homosexuals can marry in the least liberal states in the US...
GnosticAtheist 2 years ago
Well said.I'll share this with my contacts,and later this week make a response video.Time to put NOM in its place.
worldlystone 2 years ago
I'm offended by your astoundingly brilliant video quality.
themanwhoknew 2 years ago
I would be honored to post a response video.
boony68 2 years ago
you should ! get everyone you know to as well! thanks!
lovenotlaws 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I should feel honored ?
boony68 2 years ago
I think he meant 'you should' post a video.
TheLovePizza 2 years ago
I thought as much but wasnt sure.
boony68 2 years ago
I think he was saying you should post the video...
EmilyTheGreat80 2 years ago
Thanks for the great feedback! Please send this to everyone you know that is a supporter of equal rights. We can get great national coverage with everyones input by video! Let's make a huge statement!
lovenotlaws 2 years ago
Well said.
mehtoole 2 years ago
You´re doing it again.
The Whole World is standing up asking for respect and Human Rights.
Congratulations, small world, big and fast changes: For Good.
Fernando.-
fergalli 2 years ago
Six stars.
Stand strong, and keep fighting.
EmilyTheGreat80 2 years ago
5 stars.
lynnctd 2 years ago
wow, I loev all your videos. I support, and if we all can come together and support then this world would be a better place to be in.
<3 Denise
xRAWR1x 2 years ago
i dont have a cam yet but i would.
all i can do is vote you up.
ltdan676 2 years ago
Awesome yall!
Defend gay rights!
Oh, and first comment, btw.
ErikratKhandnalie 2 years ago