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  • Baby Jizzus.

  • animals do kill their own kind..... :o what is this atheist talking? Haven't he seen world war and murder before?

  • @MrBoomSonic

    An yet again, another cunt doesn't get it.

    So that explains why there are no animals left on the planet.

    Use the brain that evolution gave you, cocksnot.

  • @geffel omg there is animals ... what rubbish are you trying to collect today?

  • @MrBoomSonic

    Am I supposed to form a sentence out of that?

  • lol , how did i get to this , i was looking for atheist festive holiday for this month carols

  • I'm an atheist but I'm not giving up christmas. Hypocrite or just greedy? I also like stories and the whole magic baby one is fairly entertaining. I prefer 'A Christmas Carol' though.

  • hm...I'm pretty sure you used sarcasm in the whole animals get along with their own species, which is ridiculous...there are even species who wage actual war against each other...2 wolf tribes for example might fight over a territory to the death, letting only the quickest (who are smart enough to flee fast enough) alive. Dolphins rape their mates. Most monkeys also engage in interracial violence.

    anyway, I'm an atheist too. (just corrected that tiny bit, in case you weren't using sarcasm)

  • @Zerkezhi

    Your exceptions prove the rule - the point is that all these godless species of animals haven't wiped each other off of the face of the Earth. Animals are godless and free, yet they mostly work altruistically to benefit the whole group. I made this back when the time limit was only ten minutes so expanding on points required making more than one video or trying to make the point in ten seconds.

    But thanks.

  • You are my God......um i ment my No god dam it

  • 0:30 thats what i believe in!!!!

  • This video made me want to watch VFX prancing around as batman.. I wonder if his mom is proud.

  • @geffel We have an innate need to preserve ourselves, not our species as a whole. When one acts badly, there are consequences in one's immediate environment. Physical and emotional violence tends to be reacted to with similar violence, which puts one in harm's way. Most confrontations within species are more posturing than physical aggression due to likelihood of harm. There is no need to rely on the need to preserve the species to develop morality which assumes violence is undesirable.

  • Atheists are no worse than Christians, why do they assume they know any better?

    The first and constant mistake atheists make, is that they think they're smarter than everyone else.

    It often begins by the foolish and ignorant comparison between God and Santa, or evolution and creation. And then the disbelief in "miracles" and the "supernatural", whatever they're meant to be, asif the truth is not all powerful enough to do anything it wants.

    The hebrew word for existance is "Yahweh" (God).

  • @TheColaGoodfellow

    Glad you admit we're 'no worse' than Christians. Usually we get painted by you lot as the most evil creatures in the universe.

    As it happens santa/god/jizbot/yahweh/allah et al are figments of the imagination.

    You suggest that we think all religionists are stupid mentals. Not all of you are, obviously.

    In this case, FDS regurgitates every ignorant, uninformed, credulous, strawman fiction about atheists in about 55 seconds. Are we to accept these exhortations unchallenged?

  • Excellent arguments except that animals aren't all happy and cuddly. Violence among animals is more likely between species for food, but there is also often violence between animals of the same species in competition for mates and scarce resources.

  • @jgoldpac

    Agreed. As I've said repeatedly in comments I edited much out of this video to fit it into the old 10.59 minute youtube time limit.

    Point is, animals have no gods, yet they haven't wiped each other off the face of the Earth. Religionists always argue that without religion there are no morals, therefore religion-free humans should be raping, pillaging, murdering, etc. But of course we don't do that, because, like all life, we have an innate need to preserve & prolong our species.

  • There's only one problem here (besides no references)- people not minding there own business. This man feels attacked by FDS apparently, and so he decided to attack back in a way. Everyone here is apparently not comfortable with who they are, so they need to feel better about what they believe by lashing out, ha ha. Good luck fellas! 'it neither picks my pocket nor brakes my leg.'

  • @BBB517

    Do you mean 'breaks' your legs?

    It's not a case of 'lashing out - it's a case of mercilessly crushing the willfully ignorant.

    In fact this idiot demonstrated the typical religionist ignorance which is widespread in our culture.

    There's not a single argument here for which you cannot find substantial evidence by searching the web. Or try reading some books (not the bible). Anyone who ever paid attention during elementary school would know all this without watching my video.

  • @geffel ha ha ha, valiant effort, but I'm not swayed. oh, and yes, I meant 'breaks' but not 'legs.' It's a Thomas Jefferson quote. Cheers mate!

  • All I have to say to all of you hypocrite Christians is : Jeremiah 10:2-4 (King James)

  • You got yourself a sub, because I swear you are charlie brooker. lol

  • I think I'll have 2 days a year both days are holidays so I never have to work and I get presents every day.

  • I wish we could just cut out everything between the fall of the Roman empire and the renaissance. the world would be much better off.

  • I don't know about this libetta guy, but if he says someone did show up. And you say how do you know he showed up. It is a completely legitimate question for Geffel to ask. You say someone showed up that you cannot directly prove showed up. So libetta actually has the burden of proof here.

  • babylonians are the oldest culture know to have adopted 7 day system. jews adopted this system from them. allso hindus allso inveted in 1st setury a 7 day week. the real reason why there is 7 day week is bechose astronomical count of month. 7 day week fits the best to a month and this is why difrent cultures have adopted the same system. many of them inveted this on their own. so bible only borrows the 7 day week, it does not invent it.

  • @gooddarkjedi

    exactly.

  • babylonians had 7 day week. way before jews. jews adopted their 7 day system from mesopotanians.

  • 7 day week was inveted by mesopotanians. chrismas is much older selebration then christianity. and year was inveted by romans.

  • In a little bit off-topic addition about the pagan influences: the names of the days keep resemblance with the roman gods' names when you look them up in romance languages such as Spanish or Italian while a big part of the names in English (a germanic language) come from, oh big surprise, the gods of germanic regions.

    Good pwnage but I wish could have seen the FDS' vid ):

  • @xXxScarletBloodxXx

    Thanks for the comment.

    Yes, sometimes pwnage videos can have too much effect. I'dd rather he had come back at me with something.

  • @geffel

    That's what I would have preferred. I did rather nuke him in response to his slingshot.

  • Regarding Solstice time songs ;-) : I make it a point to sing Tom Lehrer's 'Christmas Song', the only song that really expresses what we all hold near and dear in our hearts at Christmas time (money!).

  • I clicked the link leading to FDS's video- he had removed it. Seems like you made an impact, mate. Nicely done!

  • @AlexeiPushkin

    I think he deleted his channel.

  • I think I was most puzzled by FDS's question, "Are you married? Why?". Why shouldn't atheists marry? It's perfectly possible to leave God out of the ceremony, and it doesn't follow that atheists scoff at marriage as a result of their unbelief. The question/accusation is totally out of left field.

  • @DanThePropMan

    I concur.

  • @DanThePropMan

    Hardcore metal religionists believe that marriage can only occur under god and in a church. Anything else is fake. Indeed, religionists assert that life without god is worthless, whereas it's evident that many with worthless lives turn to god to give their life some purpose. You only need watch a few born again type video here on the tube to see they believe that without god they'd be running around killing , maiming, raping and robbing without fear. Scary.

  • @geffel Sorry, I dont kill or rape people because its a terrible thing to do, not because god bans it or the law tells me not to. But because its a horrible way to act, and I can employ reason and rationality, I do not to disgusting murderous things. However I don't like the word Atheist because it implies KNOWING god doesn't exist, this is why I'm agnostic. Perhaps people will never know how the world is created, and maybe human logic is flawed on this subject, but settling for "god" is no good

  • @limduul

    Atheist doesn't imply that one knows that god doesn't exist. It implies that you are without belief i.e that the evidence for god doesn't convince you. Thats the position the "new" atheists like Hitchens and Dawkins hold. Technically I'm an agnostic atheist meaning one who doesn't have belief in the supernatural as opposed to a gnostic atheist who knows that there is nothing supernatural (I've never met a gnostic atheist but there sure are gnostics on the theist side.

  • Just because of this video, I'm going to have to go carol singing this year - so I can see people's reactions to someone turning up at their house to sing Sledgehammer.

  • @MedicChrisUK

    I'm glad I made a difference.

  • if Christmas IS PAGAN, then where did the name come from? lol.

  • @libetta

    You can cal lit what you like. It was already a pagan festival long before it was stolen by christians.

    get real.

  • @geffel

    that's why they started the celebration, they knew Jesus is coming.

  • @libetta

    And yet he never did show up.

  • @geffel

    He did show up to them, how would you tell He didn't, were you there that time? lol. (and you would ask how i knew He showed up.lol. that's your style. i already know what you're saying next)

  • @libetta

    Get a life. You only get one. Quit wasting it.

  • @geffel

    why wouldn't you want to have eternal life? you get a lot of fantasies on a lot of unreachable women, knowing though that you can't have them.

  • @libetta

    You sad little person. Enjoy what you have now. Religion is for the pathetic, the weak and the foolish. Grow up.

  • @libetta It was called about a dozen different things (depending on the area in question) the Christians just took it and made it their own, mostly because it was so popular they couldn't stop people from celebrating it in its original form (Feast of ... something or other I'm tried go google it).

  • My brain hurts.

  • Thank you for existing, geffel!

  • @Dallo10

    All hail me!

  • Shit. I actually thought it WAS "sabath-day."

    Whoops.

  • that was just such an epic pwnage that even FDS deleted the video... brilliant man, really brilliant... the best of it is that I've learned some stuff I didn't know and that's always great :)

  • Logic once more truimphs over ignorance.

  • Really enjoyed your video. I was suprised to see it only has 4000 views! But well, the number of likes speaks for itself.

  • @twinkazz

    I had few subs at the time this was made - maybe 150 or so. Also it was votebotted about a year ago and that casued it to not appear in seaches as it reduced its rating.

    And FromTheDarkStream closed his channel as a respoinse to this video, which was rather annoying.

    I might feature it on my page and see if people pick up on it.

    Thanks for your comment.

  • Flawless pwnage!

    Lets all have a hearty laugh! ho ho ho hahahahaha

  • how can anyone 'dislike' this video? even if you are a christian that worships that god dude, what likes killing babies, you would have to 'like' that fact that this guy put a misinformed, uneducated lying greeboid in his place...wouldnt you? I did. may many nutters piss you off so we may have many more vids all as ace as this.

  • that damn user gives all christians a bad name. its christians like "thedarkstream" that need to get facts straight and keep its extremes ass away from the public eye. but putting all christians into a little group is generalizing. we are not all like, its mostly the ignorant, redneck, close minded, extreme damn asses that believe that dinosaurs never walked the earth and the "big bang" never happened. so please, dont put all us christians in the restarted category.

  • Loved the vid, loved the accent. Might I ad that it was Hypocritical of the Romans to use those god names in calendars since half of them were Greek Gods? LOL

  • I think being an atheist means recognizing that nothing means anything which to me is relieving. You see being an athiest means being a nihilist

  • @fsmisreal

    For me it just means I don't believe in the supernatural.

  • @geffel Atheism and nihilism are different entities and there are theistic nihilists (e.g.; religious terrorists).

  • @Bfdidc

    Well alright then.

  • This has to be one of the best videos I have ever seen, well done sir!

  • Thanks Mr Shark. You'd think t's have 100,000 views by now, wouldn't you? I should have got Fred to do the voiceover or hada couple of lesbians in it with big arses.

    Oh well. Perhaps I'll be recognised after I'm dead.

    cheers.

  • @geffel Gotta love the name of that church "Hateville Baptist Church...."

  • This hypocritical video is the work of Satan.

    You just wait, one of these days you'll face Judgement Day, and on that day the All-Highest, Most Magnificent, Most Beneficent, Most Pinkness will take her pointy sharp unicorn hooves, give you a proper bit of fisticuffs, and consign you to a pasture of low grass and high manure.

  • But werent Roman calenders only 10 months? The extra 2 months were added for Julius and Augustus. Which is why SEPTember (7th month) is now the 9th, while OCTober (8th month) is now the 10th.

  • Sure but the point is to show that the current calendar was not something invented by Jizzy Jesus Christ....

  • @geffel Bang on.

    Just like the 3 wise men leaving presents under Jesus' Christmas tree - Which happened shortly before they all tucked into mince pies before all singing "The Holly and the Ivy".

  • Made my day! I hope you all had a merry x mas and a sinfull new year

  • Fantastic 5/5 easy. I think this must be one of the best debunks i seen in a while now here on youtube :)

  • So enjoyable revisiting this classic bit of pwnage, perhaps the best pwnage of 2009.

  • That was a meal! 5/5 and faved

  • yay! for the friends activity box!

    great video mate

  • A thought at the end of 2009: DAMN YOU GEFFEL! Each time I produce a new video with which I am rather pleased, I discover YOU have already done one so much better as to render my effort ludicrous in its crudity. My New Year's Resolution will be: GET THAT WANKER Geffel, who makes me feel a mere video-making tyro. Meanwhile: HAPPY holiday of your choosing! Sincerely, Claire

  • Love the xkcd at 0.20.. *grinface*

    Absolutely splendid, thank you! :D

  • *standing ovation*

  • Actually the reasons humans do those things as opposed to animals is because of original sin. But you know, I was watching a national Geographic program about lion prides in this part of Africa and this big pride was waging war on all the other prides. They kill the males and children then rape the women. Sounds familiar? Apparently this pride is so strong that there are now only 2 opposing prides left. They are being killed off mercilessly. Please comment on this.

  • No such thing as original sin. That's religious bullshit.

    Apparently there still are lions though. They're not wiping pout all the lions in the world.

    But keep missing the point if you choose to.

  • I try to come up with an original sin, but it seems they've all been done.

    We could boost the dwindling lion population if we started feeding them christians again.

    Excellent video- You've earned yourself 5 stars and a brand new subscriber.

  • To quote Eddie Izzard, I once poked a badger with a spoon. That's quite original. Bravo on the vid. 5 deserved stars.

  • Cake  or death ? Cake please.

  • First you say humans wage war because original sin then you try to justify it by an example from nature. So do lions also have original sin because they kill other lions which would mean that they have free will? Maybe the first lion ate of the forbidden antelope and thus had original sin upon him and his descendants? Or does it maybe reflect the fact that we are (both us and the lion) social animals?

  • some christians need there faith but religion causes .00000000000001 percent good the rest bad and not kinda bad its like beating ur kids with fuckin poles and tellin them they deserve eternity in hell if u r christian u must beleive everyone deserves eternal hell but jesus saved us that is selfish hypocritical and plainout willfullt ignorant

  • dam u suckas got served

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  • Rapril

    i loled

  • nice

  • Whatever you are give to the needy starving homeless people. Don't encourage the chopping down of trees they are the lungs of the earth.

  • The 7-day week was NOT invented by the Hebrews but the non-Muslim, pagan Persians. Christians stole everythting, including the idea of trinity, from pagans.

  • "I am a robot and can not compute this information. Will restate my facts that you just debunked."

    You know that's what the Bible bashers will do.

  • Bibley.

  • 4:50 i shat brix

  • I see what you mean, but instead of shitting bricks my head's threatening to split from the shear stupidity permeating from FDS's bullshit.

  • Logic,history,fact and reason for the win.

  • Here, here! Wonderfully done old boy!

  • Totally owned. Loved it :)

  • Thanks - love how people are bitching about the five seconds I had to respond to the animal behaviour strawman!

  • I watched a great talk from a animal behaviourist who said "the leading cause of death among great apes were other great apes". This rings true within our own species as well and supports the idea of common ancestry.

    If the minute details are all they have to argue about, then you have won the debate.

    Subscribed (as you would have seen).

  • The sledge hammer of fact?

    You don't realy think facts will work do you?

    As soon as you mentioned a single fact they didn't like, every fundi watching just stuck there fingers in there ears and said "la la la la la la la I can't hear you! Your wrong the bibles right, the bible told me so!"

    Good video though!

    I'm shure everyone that isn't nuts realy enjoyed it! *****

  • "I've never seen abusive apes attacking their mates"? You must be blind.

  • Beat me in arguing there.

    You're right.

    All the animals on the planet have wiped each other out, as have the atheists.

    Well done.

  • naughty, let's not attempt to twist what I said now. I suppose an ape would never try something like that...

  • Amazing video. 55 stars (if only that was possible).

    However, I do slightly agree with gnamp here. Not only on apes, but this is also observed in lions. You know? the new Alpha lion that kills the cubs of the previous Alpha lion (perhaps even his brothers).

    But that was not your point, and yes, I completely agree with your point. Lions and apes that attack within their pride or shrewdness have other reasons and, in both cases, they survived better in groups.

    Again, amazing video.

  • The birth myth what from the christens it an ancient story of three king (Orions belt) following a bight star (Sirius aka. dog star ) to the birth pace (if it can be called that) of the sun there an Egyptian version with Osier and some others

  • pwnd 2k

  • wow new sub.

  • ...owned...

  • Simply love this videoi :)

  • you don't know the first thing about animal behaviour. they're every bit as into theft, gang rape, spousal abuse, killing for sport, etc. as humans are.

  • That's right. All the animals have wiped each other out becasue they don't have a god...

  • Good proof for no god isnt it ;-)

  • Very few christians would make the silly claims that FDS does so I think its a bit harsh on occasion to use his foolishness as a striking point for religion in general.

    That said very informative video, I really enjoyed it.

  • Thanks for the compliment. However, there are many Christians of FDS' ilk on youtube, possibly a dispropotionately large number. However, they make these kind of claims against non-blievers very often, the same tired old strawman arguments trotted out day after day, all of which have been conclusively refuted by folks more eloquent and knowledgeable than I.

    If you haven't already looked at venomfangx's channel then you should do - you might get a bit of a shock.

  • Even the Japanese call Sunday the Sun Day and Monday the Moon Day

    日曜日 月曜日 using 日 月

    And tuesday is the Fire Day, then there's the Water day, then the Tree day, the Gold day and ending with the Ground Day.

  • If the calendar is so Christian, then what's up with names like Thursday (Thor), January (Janus), and how every other day and month is named after a pagan god?

  • See my video "re: "Atheists = hypocrites" : My Atheist Christmas" for my comments on that very subject.

  • Not to mention the bible mentions NOT using trees as a symbol for this god

  • fuck. yeah.

  • Best compliment so far - I think it's a compliment anyway.

  • definitely a compliment, and emphatically so! keep up the great great work.

  • wow........WOW

    5 star and favourited.

    i would try to type something intelligent but this vid has taken the intelligence from this moment in time and used to great effect. oh well.

  • *YEC Pwnage Achieved*

  • Awesome video. alot of stuff i knew but everyone else thought i was makin up and alot of stuff i didnt know!!

  • Aw man, you totally pwned them! :D I continue to celebrate Christmas myself, while my mom celebrates Yule which happens to be on the same day and we exchange presents and cook delicious food.

  • Thanks - I'm bummed that the guy firstly took down his video and then his entire channel - he was looking like a very promising youtube moron. Oh well.

    Thanks for mentioning Yule - that's another one I could have put in the video.

    Peace.

  • Nice one. The pwnage is pouring out my screen. Its gone all over my phone and fags.

    5 stars

  • lol

    jibus

  • A lovely video indeed

  • Damn, that really was pwnage on an intergalactic scale.

  • Thanks werecow - good name - I hope you rated it to offset the vote botting.

  • Of course. }|:o)

  • I love this video. I watch it at least once a fortnight :)

  • Thanks sakar181 - I hope you have subscribed!

  • Hahaha "Holy incest" i almost fell of my chair when you pointed this out.

  • Excellent video. Just one thing to add: you're comment at 00:58 about apes attacking thier mates isn't actually true. It reminded me of a Time magazine article I read some years ago (google: The Wife Beaters of Kibale). It was discovered that some male chimpanzees were beating females. Not only that, they used sticks. It's weapon use in a non-human species! Since they wield the sticks very inefficiently, scientists believe they are using them for non-lethal punishment rather than killing.

  • BRILLIANT! Loved it.

  • Holy shit you owned that guy hard.

  • His statements were so preposterous that I had to stamp on his head. It's not just about him though - it's a message to any of these ignorant fukkers and their strawman bullshit.

  • BRAVO!!!!!!!!! ENCORE!

  • Ouch! :)

  • i think he just broke my pawnge meater.... it passed Over kill and stoped working.

    Good job Sir i do hope you do more like this maby it will help them see the light of truth... or at lest shut the hell up.

  • Well venomfangx just quit youtube within days of my venomfangx piss-take -

    Coincidence?

    You be the judge...

  • My ears are still ringing from that pwnage!

    Well played sir, well played.

  • WOW! Outstandingly good pwnage!!!

    Sorry, is "outstandingly" a real word?? Anywayz... It's good!

  • lmao, great great work.

  • The only good thing 1 can say about the history of gods is it has left a very colourful history behind it..if u leave out all the murder &mayhem of course

    &it shows the capacity of the imagination of the human mind 2 invent all their gods

    Afterall we have wonderful architecture cathedrals pyramids stonehenge tombs mummies mosques music etc all beautiful in their own right..& it is a joy when sum never seen b4 artifacts are found

    It's the curiosity in us where 1 gets joy

    from finding new things

  • brilliant vid. Right up there with the best of them. 5 starts and subscribing

  • I think that was pretty conclusive. Time for a cup of tea.

  • Enjoyed every bit of this vid! Excellent work.

    I think FDS has been well and truly OWNED!  Ha ha.

  • this is a beautifully made video. Love the message :)

  • lol dont know much but even i know back 2000 years they only had something like 10months xD

  • "sorry boss, can't come to work today it's going to be sunday for the next week or two." great video, I just subscribed and I look forward to whatever else you decide to put up, good luck and thanks for a well made vid!

  • Ooh, thank you very much.

  • thanks for taking the time and effort to produce a great quality video.I agree that Thunderf00t and others do a wonderful job of debunking these types of things and have done so in the past. however I encourage you to join in as well.There is a lot to cover and if it's done with the quality of this one it never hurts.I'm sure it seems a dime a dozen for you but for me living in the bible belt I hear the opposite too much, so it's always nice for me to hear some one sane promoting rational ideas.

  • Well I offer my most sincere condolences to you. Most of the time I don't bother, but I have recently started making the effiort. However, it takes a lot of time to put a video like this together. Even though I've got better and faster with recent videos, it's a big chunk out of a day to find all the images and do al lthe diting. Good luck to you.

  • I think that this video should be required watching for a "How to pwn" series or something like that.  I enjoyed this as much as I do AronRa's fundamental falsehoods of creationism series. Well done. Nothing more constructively critical than that I'm afraid.

    -Max

  • About Christmas. It got its roots from a Germanic pagan celebration (In fact, nearly no Christian celebrations are actually originally Christian). We are actually celebrating that the sun is reaching its lowest point in the sky for the year being (Jesus was NOT burn during Christmas).

  • Exakkerly.

  • haha well said !

  • Ha Saturn I knew it.

    Awesome vid. I'm gonna fav cause it'd make great ammo if I ever got into an argument.

  • Hey September October November and December are 7th 8th 9th and 10th month.

    Sept = 7

    ect ect.

  • From wikipedia - Roman writers claimed their calendar was invented by Romulus, founder of Rome around 753 BC. His version contained ten months with the vernal equinox in the first month. However, his months were not lunar. The calendar year lasted 304 days & there were about 61 days of winter not assigned to any month.Later months were named based on their position in the calendar: Quintilis comes from quinque , Sextilis-sex , September -septem , October-octo , November-novem & December-decem .