great work Zsartell! I make key chains every so often myself for our customers. If you come to my neck of the woods in Canada ,BC SouthEast corner ...send me a pm!
Hey dude! you know nothing about heath! 1800-2000 degrees..the temperature it has when you take it out of the fire in the begningn is about 1200 degrees haha! and the steel turns white at 1400degrees!
if it where at 1800-2000 the bar would have melted away! :P
Plz look up the facts before you telling stuff to others!
@NyppoN actually, his comment is consistent with the temperature scale in fahrenheits, not degrees celsius, which is resumably the scale you were using
@NyppoN "if it where at 1800-2000 the bar would have melted away! :P"
i think he means degFAHRENHEIT not degC. Most smiths i know of work in degF(typically b/c of higher temperatures) in which case most optimal forging ranges are 1800 to 2500dF typically (the metal will start to melt at 2700dF...where forge welding is possible between the 2700-2750 degF range).forgeweld degC is 1482.223 up to 1510.
Being in a world-neighborhood we must accept others work by a differing system. hope this helps.
That is awesome - I was just writing a story, and thought I would research some blacksmithing terms to make it a little more well-rounded and stumbled randomly on this video. Thanks!
Very nice video.Do you ever wack your fingers on that wire wheel?Bet that stings a little.This art of blacksmithing has been an interest of mine for quite some time.
just a quick question... for that first 30 minutes you skipped out, how did you form the leaf into a more sleek profile...i guess what i'm trying to say is where did you place your hits because when i tried this my leaf became more of a circle or rectangle. i'm pretty ametuer so anthing could help.
Well, that depends on what you're doing, if it was really big I'd say you should weld it, but because this is pretty thin stock you should be able to draw it out quickly, but the speed you do that at depends again on your body, hammer controle, etc, etc.. Btw if you might think that I am just a boy who just know a little to talk and tries to be a smartass, check my videos and see.
I was just thinking in terms of time and effort spent. In the absence of a power hammer, it'll still take a reasonable amount of time for anyone to draw that stock out versus the time and effort spent to make a single forge weld.
Its hard to tell from the video, but that bar looks reasonably beefy, I'd be very surprised if anybody could draw it out by hand in one or two heats. Keep in mind that the guy who posted the video said that it took him two hours in real time, the idea that it could be done in a handful of heats, and thus a handful of minutes, seems unlikely.
He says its half inch, that isnt big to me and its mild steel too, so not really hard. Maybe you should keep in mind skill has a big impact too, same as he is using the face instead of the horn of the anvil as the horn draws out faster. same as he says it took 2 hours, for example;it takes someone 10 min for a nail, doesnt mean that counts for everyone, but depending on the metal and who and how it's being made, called technique, thats the key. thus it could sound unlikely to you but its true
I'm admittedly just a hobbyist, I've probably only put in around 60-70 hours or so at the forge, but I'd venture to say that you'd have to be exceptionally talented to manually draw a half-inch square bar down to, say, a foot or more long section of an eighth round bar (ballparking) in one or two heats.
I'm a hobbyist too, don't know how many hours I've got but certainly over 100 and many more. That's true, you have to master it, I dont say I can do that but I've been to demo's and it's amazing how fast some people can draw think stock out, again depending on the metal, who etc., etc.. in 2 heats.
Wow, very,very nice. i am in the process of making my own shop. i just need a welder and anvil and finish building my forge. i learned a trick from a old blacksmith to reduce the "ping" place a "S" hook in the hardie or pritchet hole and place a 10lb. hammer at the end. So all you hear is "thump,Thump" instead of "ping, ping"
Thanks. The "S" hook idea is good. I use a chain wrapped around my anvil and have various tools wedged in between the chain and the anvil. This seems to work very well also. Good luck with your shop!
I SO want to forge things... I would be so good at it, I love making things with my hands. But I sort of lack the forging material. How much was your rig? Fire, anvil and various hammers and tools?
You don't need much to start. I started with a big chunk of steel I got for free for an anvil, an $6 hammer from harbor freight and my O/A cutting torch. I now have 2 anvils and home made propane forge, a homemade coal forge and various hammers and tongs. I have so far made all of my tongs. You should consider looking for a local blacksmith association in your state. Good luck.
Rebar can be made out of just about anything. It is usually just recycled scrap and usually has hard and soft spots in it. Try some 1/2" square or 1/4"x3/4" works really well also.
Great job, please make more forging videos! I'm definitely going to make a few of these. A nice touch on leaves, after you stretch it sideways with the cross pein and then smooth it out, is to go back in with the pein and hammer in some texture marks in line with the veins. Makes it look just a little more natural.
can I buy One
TomaNicTurtle159 4 months ago
great work Zsartell! I make key chains every so often myself for our customers. If you come to my neck of the woods in Canada ,BC SouthEast corner ...send me a pm!
hexusziggurat 5 months ago
nice done
TheXENitz 6 months ago
Hey dude! you know nothing about heath! 1800-2000 degrees..the temperature it has when you take it out of the fire in the begningn is about 1200 degrees haha! and the steel turns white at 1400degrees!
if it where at 1800-2000 the bar would have melted away! :P
Plz look up the facts before you telling stuff to others!
NyppoN 7 months ago 2
@NyppoN actually, his comment is consistent with the temperature scale in fahrenheits, not degrees celsius, which is resumably the scale you were using
dogfootrot189 6 months ago
@NyppoN "if it where at 1800-2000 the bar would have melted away! :P"
i think he means degFAHRENHEIT not degC. Most smiths i know of work in degF(typically b/c of higher temperatures) in which case most optimal forging ranges are 1800 to 2500dF typically (the metal will start to melt at 2700dF...where forge welding is possible between the 2700-2750 degF range).forgeweld degC is 1482.223 up to 1510.
Being in a world-neighborhood we must accept others work by a differing system. hope this helps.
hexusziggurat 5 months ago 2
@NyppoN Welding heat is usually 2300-2400 F, and it's certainly solid then.
BackWoodsPuppy 1 month ago
I just bought the clover keychain on ETSY the other day and I can't wait to get it. That is so cool how the process is to making it.
scorpio11778 8 months ago
its a spoon :D
ShayTardsFanooo 8 months ago
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swedishhunter21 8 months ago
Very well done video and leaf. Thanks.
christopher5361 9 months ago
Subscribed good stuff
Baphamatt 10 months ago
That is awesome - I was just writing a story, and thought I would research some blacksmithing terms to make it a little more well-rounded and stumbled randomly on this video. Thanks!
therage3k 1 year ago
I like the hammer, very rare to find a peen on the diagonal like that....thats a keeper
millerj3066 1 year ago
very nice work my friend.what were you using for a holdfast if you dont mind my asking?keep on forging.
blacksmither1 1 year ago
that wire wheel gets things looking so good!
slorrgperson 1 year ago
Lol! use it as a little hand spear!
19thepyrochilibean 1 year ago
Very nice video.Do you ever wack your fingers on that wire wheel?Bet that stings a little.This art of blacksmithing has been an interest of mine for quite some time.
billyjo856 1 year ago
just a quick question... for that first 30 minutes you skipped out, how did you form the leaf into a more sleek profile...i guess what i'm trying to say is where did you place your hits because when i tried this my leaf became more of a circle or rectangle. i'm pretty ametuer so anthing could help.
iamozzy1 1 year ago
that looks really good, but isnt that a little big to be a key chain?
greenbrad182 1 year ago
@greenbrad182
I guess that's up to you. Bulky keychains seem to be popular right now. I also make smaller ones.
Zsartell 1 year ago
@Zsartell harder to lose such a big keychain end, the objective really.
Zardoz5280 1 month ago
Nice video very interesting. Take a look at our chennel and watch the Barbecue Butler video
HolidaysInDevon 1 year ago
Very Nice!
I appreciate your workmanship, also thanks for editing out the background noise and just narrating....top notch.
n8tureboy 2 years ago
Wouldn't it be easier to forge weld on a stem made from small round stock than to spend all that time drawing out a much thicker bar?
dbrandow 2 years ago
Well, that depends on what you're doing, if it was really big I'd say you should weld it, but because this is pretty thin stock you should be able to draw it out quickly, but the speed you do that at depends again on your body, hammer controle, etc, etc.. Btw if you might think that I am just a boy who just know a little to talk and tries to be a smartass, check my videos and see.
TechnicusJoe 2 years ago
I was just thinking in terms of time and effort spent. In the absence of a power hammer, it'll still take a reasonable amount of time for anyone to draw that stock out versus the time and effort spent to make a single forge weld.
dbrandow 2 years ago
True, but like I said it depends on how your body is, because I think I can draw that bar out in 2 maybe 1 heat
TechnicusJoe 2 years ago
Its hard to tell from the video, but that bar looks reasonably beefy, I'd be very surprised if anybody could draw it out by hand in one or two heats. Keep in mind that the guy who posted the video said that it took him two hours in real time, the idea that it could be done in a handful of heats, and thus a handful of minutes, seems unlikely.
dbrandow 2 years ago
He says its half inch, that isnt big to me and its mild steel too, so not really hard. Maybe you should keep in mind skill has a big impact too, same as he is using the face instead of the horn of the anvil as the horn draws out faster. same as he says it took 2 hours, for example;it takes someone 10 min for a nail, doesnt mean that counts for everyone, but depending on the metal and who and how it's being made, called technique, thats the key. thus it could sound unlikely to you but its true
TechnicusJoe 2 years ago
I'm admittedly just a hobbyist, I've probably only put in around 60-70 hours or so at the forge, but I'd venture to say that you'd have to be exceptionally talented to manually draw a half-inch square bar down to, say, a foot or more long section of an eighth round bar (ballparking) in one or two heats.
dbrandow 2 years ago
I'm a hobbyist too, don't know how many hours I've got but certainly over 100 and many more. That's true, you have to master it, I dont say I can do that but I've been to demo's and it's amazing how fast some people can draw think stock out, again depending on the metal, who etc., etc.. in 2 heats.
TechnicusJoe 2 years ago
cool
narutofanz4 2 years ago
how come ur ball pean doesnt leave marks in ur leaf when u give it the bowl shape becuase when i tried it on my leaf it left marks???
popsicklestick1 2 years ago
how much do it costs to start whit blacksmithing using a cheap and simpel forge?
rolfern1123 2 years ago
Wow, very,very nice. i am in the process of making my own shop. i just need a welder and anvil and finish building my forge. i learned a trick from a old blacksmith to reduce the "ping" place a "S" hook in the hardie or pritchet hole and place a 10lb. hammer at the end. So all you hear is "thump,Thump" instead of "ping, ping"
mattkestel 2 years ago
Thanks. The "S" hook idea is good. I use a chain wrapped around my anvil and have various tools wedged in between the chain and the anvil. This seems to work very well also. Good luck with your shop!
Zsartell 2 years ago
@Zsartell A large magnet attached under the heel of the anvil also helps deaden the ping.
HWPcville 3 weeks ago
@mattkestel you would silence the ring of the anvil!?you are no true smith!
blacksmither1 1 year ago
Very nice! Now this is something I'd love to learn how to do sometime when I'm older. Thank you for the video!
randompieceoftoast 2 years ago
Your never too young to learn.
Zsartell 2 years ago 4
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ECTBWHO 2 years ago
Alright... That's really awesome.
I SO want to forge things... I would be so good at it, I love making things with my hands. But I sort of lack the forging material. How much was your rig? Fire, anvil and various hammers and tools?
BlindDogFulton 3 years ago
You don't need much to start. I started with a big chunk of steel I got for free for an anvil, an $6 hammer from harbor freight and my O/A cutting torch. I now have 2 anvils and home made propane forge, a homemade coal forge and various hammers and tongs. I have so far made all of my tongs. You should consider looking for a local blacksmith association in your state. Good luck.
Zsartell 3 years ago
Thanks, that explains it.
0Anvil0Man0 3 years ago
Awesome, I was trying to make one with rebar but it was difficult.
0Anvil0Man0 3 years ago
Rebar can be made out of just about anything. It is usually just recycled scrap and usually has hard and soft spots in it. Try some 1/2" square or 1/4"x3/4" works really well also.
Zsartell 3 years ago
Great job, please make more forging videos! I'm definitely going to make a few of these. A nice touch on leaves, after you stretch it sideways with the cross pein and then smooth it out, is to go back in with the pein and hammer in some texture marks in line with the veins. Makes it look just a little more natural.
Five stars.
banjodan99 3 years ago
Thanks. I have a sharp cross peen that I use to make texture on my leaves on occasion. It just depends on what look I am looking for.
Zsartell 3 years ago
very cool done! i now got my next project!
TechnicusJoe 3 years ago